I've gone through 2 sets of AT3Ws on my FJ and loved them. They were great in the snow. I was about to buy a set of AT4Ws until I watched a couple of reviews about how they weren't that great in the snow. I'm in Seattle and do a lot of rain and snow driving. I went with a set of Nokian Outpost nAT's after watching some videos about how great they are in the snow. I did a long road trip, backroads, dirt roads, and Interstates, to Moab where I aired down the Nokians for some wheeling. They were stellar for the entire trip and exceptional in the rain. Now it's snowing and I've been able to test them out in slush and some hard-pack snow. They're very good so far. I want to get them into some deeper snow for a better test, but so far I feel like I made a good choice. Cheers.
Thanks for the honest review and double thanks for talking about sidewall ply, which no one does… especially channels that are actually selling the tires. I think a lot of people see reviews about indestructible sidewalls and have no idea that the tire they’re gonna buy, in the size they’re gonna buy it, doesn’t have that and nobody along the way gives them the information they’d need to know it… especially not BFG. Falken, on the other hand, does a great job and provides a downloadable pdf for all of their tire sizes… and the 285/70/17 is C rated with duraspec sidewalls, which I’m pretty sure means they have the extra plys that wrap from the tread around the shoulder and part way down the single ply sidewall(also available in E rating at the same weight?) Between watching the video and typing this, rapidly lengthening, comment I finally put my waffling to bed and ordered a set(E1), to be installed on Thursday! It was the wet weather on very western Washington looking roads footage and feedback that did it… and the indestructible sidewalls;)
Thank you for the great video!! I just got these for my 4Runner and it's great to see how well they work on wet roads. I too considered the KO3 tires but I heard way to many people talk about how terrible they are on wet roads.
I've had 315/70/17LT AT4Ws on my bronco for about 4k miles now and absolutely love them. They seem a bit quieter than the ko2s I had previously, but they are significantly heavier with the 3 ply sidewall. I've taken them in deep, soft sand, mud, rain and some minor rock crawling and they've handled everything with ease. So far I'm very impressed
I have the AT3W and the harder compound of the 4 turns me away. Couple that with trying some Mickey Thompson Baja Boss ATs, and I will be switching to the Baja Boss. Great info in the vid. The snow review has really solidified my decision.
Great review! Much more objective presentation than many tire reviewers. Definitely good to hear especially the 4 season and all surface experience. Actual (honest) usage in the snow rain and mud was super helpful.
I confirm everything mention in this video . I went form the ko2 to the Wildpeak AT4w HD (the 3 Ply sidewall one) and much happier. One thing I would like to add is the gravel rock ejection is much better with the Wildpeak than the ko2.
Falken AT4W come in the 33" geo I've been wanting: 255/85/16 in load C with 3-ply sidewalls. Cuttin pizzas on my 3rd Gen 4Runner. "Only" 58 lbs. So far, so good!
I've had my AT4Ws for about 5500 miles and they're by far the worst tires I've ever owned. I've had 3 tire shops try to road force balance them and they can't. The original local tire shop who installed them gave up and won't help me anymore. Mavis said they were fine, but not great. Toyota service said they were bad enough to recommend a whole new set of tires because they couldnt get them within spec and they're helping me making a warranty claim. They cause my entire 4runner to shake on the highway, not just my steering wheel. Been shaking since about 500 miles. And all the driving/suspension components were confirmed to be solid/tight by my dealership. (I've actually had really good luck with my dealers service unlike some other stealerships)
Great Review.. I LOVE the AT4w tires. I had the 3w on a 2020 Tacoma ACab 4×4 & now I have 2023 Tacoma 4dr (heavier truck) I put the 4w's on & they are perfect. Went up from 265/65/17 to 265/70/17 so 1inch taller tire. They mounted/balanced better then the 3w. Ride better. Excellent in rain (NorthEast/NE). Not loud. I might have lost 1/2-1 mpg compare to the STOCK Toyo Open Road tire on the new truck from factory. About 6000 miles on them now & they still look new with no wear (will purchase gauge soon)... I did have 3w's on 2020 Tacoma & with only 20,000 miles they were worn more then I wanted to see & they didn't ride as good imo... NOTE : I do not use these wheels/tires in snow (I have steelies with studded tires for NE snow season) so I can not comment on driving in snow... One would think harder compound will roll easier & if the tire is heavier it would balance out if factoring MPG. Im getting 23/24 MPG with a 2023 Tacoma with 500lbs of tools & gear PLUS my 200lbs body. No complaints. Great tire. Will return here at 20,000 miles & update my findings
There are sidewall plies and there is sidewall thickness. I once measured KO2 sidewall vs another 2 ply mud tire and noted the 3 ply KO2 was half the thickness which was eye opening to me.
I’ve had my AT4s on my 4Runner in the stock size for about 5000 miles. I live in Texas and they have performed great in dry rocky terrain, and surprisingly well in mud for an all terrain! This is the only mod I have made on my stock SR5. Plan on installing the Billstein 5100 lift kit next!
Thank you for the review this is great! I just ordered some for my 95 Tacoma. I’ve got 33x12.5x15 tires so I’m curious to see if the wider and taller tires will perform better in the snow and ice. I’m excited to find out
From what I have heard, the tread where is faster in the beginning and actually slows down later in the tires life, so it may reach the 60,000 mile marker before 2/32nds
Great review! I had the AT3W on my (lighter!) 4Runner and I have the AT3Ws now on my 6000 lb LR4 but they're down to 6/32"-8/32" after only 10,000 miles (i.e. 50% loss) so not super happy about that. Am considering the AT4W or the Toyo Open Country ATIII LT tire instead now.
They make an SL version is some sizes, much lighter than the LTs. For small trucks/SUV no need for LT, get the SLs and save weight and still get one of the best ATs out there.
That’s the debate I am having now. Looking at the D1 instead of the SL. Looking to maximize how many miles I can get out of the tires. Or do you think that matters?
That nose dive on the wet brake test is a bit much. Some heavier springs and a heavier slow compression rate would make things safer. The AT4Ws have big shoes to fill, but it looks like they are doing it, great info thx!
@@BaconCruiser I actually have heaviest front OME coils offered. I am stomping on the brake pedal as hard as possible here in an effort to lock up the tires though
They need to release a C and/or D load in a 37” tire that drops over 10lbs from the current weight. I love my AT3W tires but I can’t see myself moving to the AT4W for my Raptor. Weight is one of my top 3 thing I take into consideration.
Thanks for the great video and info. I’m surprised you noticed a decline in snow handling… Do you have the LT tires and what tire pressures do you run? Thank you
Keep that these are worse than the at3 in the snow. I love my at3 on my 4runner now. Loved them on my tacoma as well. Looking forward to the new redesigned duratrac rt.
@@T4Rgarageat what air pressure? With the sidewalls being heavier shouldn't be a problem to run them at like 35 psi instead of 40 psi. I say this since I live in Canada 🇨🇦 and with alot of winter ❄️ months, minus 20 to minus 30 Celsius is very common even to minus 40 for short periods, so far from things I'm hearing I would probably still get them when the version 3's wear down. Having a Rubicon Jeep Gladiator with 4:10 gears I don't see an issue with going from the factory 285/70/17 to a 285/75/17 it is possible that the additional sidewall span and 5 psi down the performance might still be quite acceptable, haven't seen any testing that detailed yet. Wondering what you might know of any..?
Looking at getting these for my 21 trd off-road 4Runner. Anyone have a recommendation that would be better in the snow in the AT segment? The 3w is basically gone in my area so that’s not an option. Great Video! Very helpful. ✌️
I live in Alaska and we get snow from November - April. My AT3w have been great in the winter. Would you still recommend these for that much snow driving?
I’ve got the exact same wheels w/ 285/70/17 AT3w’s on a silver LX570, and that gray color looks good against a lighter shade vehicle. So I can see your darker color 4Runner needing darker wheels. You said your truck was overloaded heavy, how much would you guess weight wise? My LX is about 6000 lbs empty and those Wildpeaks are LTs, feel much stiffer than my old OEM 20”wheels. They are great off-road which is why I got them but I don’t think the heavier AT4w’s would be suitable. That is why I am asking about your vehicle weight. Thx for the video comp of the Falkens, btw.
Thanks, just found your channel while shopping for Toyo Open Country or Falken wild peaks for my 23’ 4Runner. I must’ve watched about a dozen, and I finally found yours in which you actually take the tires off road to review them. 🤦♂️🤠 Keep up the great work! 🙏🏻👍🏻🌵
Interested in these tires. Question: How do well do they stay balanced, and how would you compare them to the new KO3's? My scenario; F-150 towing a travel trailer, so I'm 85% highway towing with only about 15% mild off-road driving on forest roads and trails while exploring from campgrounds. I've had Ridge Grapplers (better for off-road) and Toyo AT3's (good wet performance but hard to keep balanced, for some reason). Summary: AT4W or KO3 is what I've narrowed down to comparing. The one that is solid with staying balanced and always providing a smooth ride without having to go back to get re-balanced is the winner, for me. Thank you for your input. Cheers! Pete in Arizona - KI7LIL
I've had my AT4Ws for about 5500 miles now and 3 tire shops have not been able to get them balanced. All 3 used road force balance and could not get them within spec. Currently in the process of making a warranty claim with Falken for all 5 tires because they can't be balanced. Maybe I just got a bad set because everyone else seems to absolutely love these. But they're so out of balance, my 4runner just shakes going down the highway.
@@jensalan Oh wow, sorry to hear of the balancing troubles and hope it gets resolved for you quickly! I'm at 35K miles with my factory tires and am still doing comparative shopping between brands... should be purchasing pretty soon, though, and am kinda leaning towards the KO3's. Thank you for sharing your experience with the AT4W's!
@@malachi487 The tires will state the “Max PSI” on the sidewall but the actual recommended tire pressure is usually vehicle specific. Look at your drivers side door tag to see what your vehicle manufacturer recommends for your particular vehicle.
Thank you sir. Is there optimal pressure for any one brand of tire or is tire pressure purely specific to the type of driving that you will do (eg off road, rain or snow, regular pavement)?
@@malachi487 Door tag for regular on road use in dry,rain, snow. You can air down at your own discretion when off-road and for deep snow/sand. I wouldn’t go below 15psi though unless you have beadlocks
I live in Texas and am currently running the AT3Ws. Do you think I should get the 4s next or will the 3s still be better since I deal with rain more than snow?
I wouldn't bother with the Cooper Strongholds if you don't already have them. Cooper is owned by Goodyear. The Stronghold is almost identical to the Goodyear AT's I've had the Goodyear AT's in the past, and they have always been horrible, especially on heavier pickup trucks. If you have them already, and they work for you, that's great. I'm just expressing my observations. If you don't have them, Toyo, Mickey Thompson, Falken and Yokohama make really good all terrains. I just put 6 Falken AT4's on my F350 dump truck. I'll be installing Mickey Thompson AT's on my pickup truck. The Mickey's have a little more open tread to evacuate mud. I've spent numerous hours researching and found what works for me. I hope this info is helpful.
If you don’t get much snow, the Toyo Open Country AT3 are also a good choice and they are light. I do think these are a great all-around performer though
I have a 2016 4Runner with an ARB Summit Bumper and 10K winch so pretty heavy up front. Do have Old Man Emu heavy springs and shocks and Icon upper control arm up front and medium springs and OME shocks in the rear. Looking for anyone's experience with and recommendations with Falken Wildpeak AT4W 285/7/17 in SL or C load. For the amount of weight up front, I'm concerned about the SL not being stiff enough side wall, but also C load adds 10 pounds per tire. But I'm just as concerned about the potential of a tire puncture issue on trail with SL load. Appreciate any advice.
@@ShelbyvsViper Hi…may I ask what kind of MPG you are getting? I have a 2022 F350 Tremor…just recently put 285/75/R18 (stock) AT4W’s on while in Montana (no sales tax)on a trip to Glacier NP. I immediately noticed about 2.5 mpg drop and thought I was in a very long regeneration. I had been on the fence with the Duratrac RT…62lbs verses 68 and slightly less rolling resistance. Well….drove all the way back from Montana averaging 15.9 for the trip with a light (1400lbs) pop up camper. I was getting 17.3 or so on way up. I typically run 65…I’m in no hurry. Anyway…I was in process of exchanging at Discount for the RT’s…and I kept trying to figure out what was different, because I really liked the AT4W’s. Quiet….and planted on road. Longer story shorter…I have always used Archoil every fill up….however…just before getting these tires put on, I had used another, cheaper, additive. I got home and added the appropriate amount of Archoil for fuel I had in tank and drove a 125 miles with hills, and secondary highways. Damned if I didn’t get 20 mpg for that trip per computer….which is what I have always used. I was empty, no camper, pulling a small utility trailer. I never thought that I was getting any improvement on mpg with the Archoil…just lubrication. All that to say….i guess I am sticking with the AT4W. I’m glad to hear it’s about the same as the Duratracs which is what I had on.
better treadlife due to harder compound and increased tread depth, which is also why they wweigh more. Smoother on road due to thicker exterior tread blocks, wwhich is why they're also more stable in cornering. Gonna be nearly impossible to compare snoww performaance without a back to back comparrison in identical vehicles in the same snow. Should theoretically perform worse in packed snow and comparable or better in deep snow.
Great video. I was so happy to find your video where you've run these things in every condition for some time. I find ALL A/Ts and M/Ts lousy in the snow/ice (interior British Columbia here). Deep dry snow (+10 inches) that no one has molested is a dream with M/Ts. But as soon as it gets polished, they are useless. As you mentioned, it has to be the hardness of the rubber in pursuit of mileage. I'm spoiled by always running sipped snow tires every year. But it's a pain in the hoop to swap and store tires twice a year. And I always worry what is hiding under the snow ready to punji stab the soft snowies. So I'm looking for a replacement set of tires for my Excursion. Your video has given me confidence to go with these Falkens. I've been banging away at the world wide interweave for months agonizing over brand, type, size and cost. Contrary to your comment, I've found them to be closer to the cheap side of the curve for 235 85 R16 @ $275 Canadian (Black Circles Canada.). I'm swapping out KO2s that I found completely vanilla and horrible in snow. The mud aspect of the Falkens concerns me as I've been spoiled by running Firestone M/Ts on my Suzuki Grand Vitara. Those tires are unstoppable until you slice sidewalls with sharp alder stick left over at ground level in forest burns. I've done 2 this year. Thanks for the video!
The dura spec ones are good for durability, but they are indeed heavy. I went from load E 285 general grabbers to load C 255 at4ws, and they are just as heavy or even a bit more. It's crazy how heavy they are
I've gone through 2 sets of AT3Ws on my FJ and loved them. They were great in the snow. I was about to buy a set of AT4Ws until I watched a couple of reviews about how they weren't that great in the snow. I'm in Seattle and do a lot of rain and snow driving. I went with a set of Nokian Outpost nAT's after watching some videos about how great they are in the snow. I did a long road trip, backroads, dirt roads, and Interstates, to Moab where I aired down the Nokians for some wheeling. They were stellar for the entire trip and exceptional in the rain. Now it's snowing and I've been able to test them out in slush and some hard-pack snow. They're very good so far. I want to get them into some deeper snow for a better test, but so far I feel like I made a good choice. Cheers.
Thanks for the honest review and double thanks for talking about sidewall ply, which no one does… especially channels that are actually selling the tires. I think a lot of people see reviews about indestructible sidewalls and have no idea that the tire they’re gonna buy, in the size they’re gonna buy it, doesn’t have that and nobody along the way gives them the information they’d need to know it… especially not BFG. Falken, on the other hand, does a great job and provides a downloadable pdf for all of their tire sizes… and the 285/70/17 is C rated with duraspec sidewalls, which I’m pretty sure means they have the extra plys that wrap from the tread around the shoulder and part way down the single ply sidewall(also available in E rating at the same weight?)
Between watching the video and typing this, rapidly lengthening, comment I finally put my waffling to bed and ordered a set(E1), to be installed on Thursday! It was the wet weather on very western Washington looking roads footage and feedback that did it… and the indestructible sidewalls;)
Wildpeak AT4w 265/75r16 love them! Ready for the Winter.
Thank you for the great video!! I just got these for my 4Runner and it's great to see how well they work on wet roads. I too considered the KO3 tires but I heard way to many people talk about how terrible they are on wet roads.
I've had the ko2s for several winters and they are boss.
I did have them sipped a bit more though. The extra siping they went through anything.
The KO3 is way better in the snow than the AT4w, watch “ the fast lane “ on RUclips. The Falken were the worse tire in the snow test .
I've had 315/70/17LT AT4Ws on my bronco for about 4k miles now and absolutely love them. They seem a bit quieter than the ko2s I had previously, but they are significantly heavier with the 3 ply sidewall. I've taken them in deep, soft sand, mud, rain and some minor rock crawling and they've handled everything with ease. So far I'm very impressed
Did it take a huge mpg hit?
@@delettecollins1761 yeah it took a decent hit, but I also went from 33” ko2s to 35” AT4Ws. Overall about a 2mpg drop
I have the AT3W and the harder compound of the 4 turns me away. Couple that with trying some Mickey Thompson Baja Boss ATs, and I will be switching to the Baja Boss. Great info in the vid. The snow review has really solidified my decision.
I love me some mickeys but damn they are loud and heavy for daily driving so i cant run them
Just got 4w today on my zr2 colorado 100 time better than 3.did no.feel heaver
@@Thejoeb which mickeys? The ATs are super quiet. I’ve tried them on 2 different rigs and plan to get myself a set
The falken wild peak at3w has to be one of my favorite tires almost no road noise till recently now that they are pretty worn.
Great review! Much more objective presentation than many tire reviewers. Definitely good to hear especially the 4 season and all surface experience. Actual (honest) usage in the snow rain and mud was super helpful.
I confirm everything mention in this video . I went form the ko2 to the Wildpeak AT4w HD (the 3 Ply sidewall one) and much happier. One thing I would like to add is the gravel rock ejection is much better with the Wildpeak than the ko2.
Got mine today the 4 w ride way better than 3 love them
Really wish they hadn't discontinued the AT3W!
thanks for this, I was thinking about getting this for my Nissan Frontier Pro 4X - now I am definitley getting them
Thanks for insight on the tires. I just purchased a set for my 97 4runner
Falken AT4W come in the 33" geo I've been wanting: 255/85/16 in load C with 3-ply sidewalls. Cuttin pizzas on my 3rd Gen 4Runner. "Only" 58 lbs. So far, so good!
I just ordered that same tire and size. Finally ditching the factory 245/75r16 size on my tacoma.
I have 32 x 11 on my Colorado now and love them. Quiet for A/T tires on the road and are everything they are advertised as. Great tire.
I've had my AT4Ws for about 5500 miles and they're by far the worst tires I've ever owned. I've had 3 tire shops try to road force balance them and they can't. The original local tire shop who installed them gave up and won't help me anymore. Mavis said they were fine, but not great. Toyota service said they were bad enough to recommend a whole new set of tires because they couldnt get them within spec and they're helping me making a warranty claim.
They cause my entire 4runner to shake on the highway, not just my steering wheel. Been shaking since about 500 miles. And all the driving/suspension components were confirmed to be solid/tight by my dealership. (I've actually had really good luck with my dealers service unlike some other stealerships)
I had the same experience. Switched to Ko2 and got an alignment and it was sorted.
Great Review.. I LOVE the AT4w tires. I had the 3w on a 2020 Tacoma ACab 4×4 & now I have 2023 Tacoma 4dr (heavier truck) I put the 4w's on & they are perfect. Went up from 265/65/17 to 265/70/17 so 1inch taller tire. They mounted/balanced better then the 3w. Ride better. Excellent in rain (NorthEast/NE). Not loud. I might have lost 1/2-1 mpg compare to the STOCK Toyo Open Road tire on the new truck from factory. About 6000 miles on them now & they still look new with no wear (will purchase gauge soon)... I did have 3w's on 2020 Tacoma & with only 20,000 miles they were worn more then I wanted to see & they didn't ride as good imo... NOTE : I do not use these wheels/tires in snow (I have steelies with studded tires for NE snow season) so I can not comment on driving in snow... One would think harder compound will roll easier & if the tire is heavier it would balance out if factoring MPG. Im getting 23/24 MPG with a 2023 Tacoma with 500lbs of tools & gear PLUS my 200lbs body. No complaints. Great tire. Will return here at 20,000 miles & update my findings
Great review - I love the shots of you testing the product! 💪🏽 I'm leaning toward this after having the KO2s on my last Jeep. Thanks for the breakdown
There are sidewall plies and there is sidewall thickness. I once measured KO2 sidewall vs another 2 ply mud tire and noted the 3 ply KO2 was half the thickness which was eye opening to me.
@@lucasg5094 Totally agree. I tried explaining this to someone once as well. Plys are subjective and are not made equally
I’ve had my AT4s on my 4Runner in the stock size for about 5000 miles. I live in Texas and they have performed great in dry rocky terrain, and surprisingly well in mud for an all terrain!
This is the only mod I have made on my stock SR5. Plan on installing the Billstein 5100 lift kit next!
@@fluffypillow99 Bilstein 5100s are a great choice, might do a video on them soon
Thank you for the review this is great! I just ordered some for my 95 Tacoma. I’ve got 33x12.5x15 tires so I’m curious to see if the wider and taller tires will perform better in the snow and ice. I’m excited to find out
From what I have heard, the tread where is faster in the beginning and actually slows down later in the tires life, so it may reach the 60,000 mile marker before 2/32nds
@@JoshJorg44 and I later discovered the bushings were going on my LCAs so that may have contributed to more wear
Great review! I had the AT3W on my (lighter!) 4Runner and I have the AT3Ws now on my 6000 lb LR4 but they're down to 6/32"-8/32" after only 10,000 miles (i.e. 50% loss) so not super happy about that. Am considering the AT4W or the Toyo Open Country ATIII LT tire instead now.
They make an SL version is some sizes, much lighter than the LTs. For small trucks/SUV no need for LT, get the SLs and save weight and still get one of the best ATs out there.
That’s the debate I am having now. Looking at the D1 instead of the SL. Looking to maximize how many miles I can get out of the tires. Or do you think that matters?
IMO doesn’t make that much difference. How and where you drive makes the most impact on mileage and if you’re towing a lot or not.
I believe the version in this video are the SL versions, given the 116T service description on the side.
Great Review! Thank You
Went with the KO3's
What made you decide on KO3’s? I am currently debating between these two to use during ski season.
That nose dive on the wet brake test is a bit much. Some heavier springs and a heavier slow compression rate would make things safer. The AT4Ws have big shoes to fill, but it looks like they are doing it, great info thx!
@@BaconCruiser I actually have heaviest front OME coils offered. I am stomping on the brake pedal as hard as possible here in an effort to lock up the tires though
I bought a new set of at4w. For my 04 tacoma.. they are heavy they ride a little rough too but im keeping them..
They need to release a C and/or D load in a 37” tire that drops over 10lbs from the current weight. I love my AT3W tires but I can’t see myself moving to the AT4W for my Raptor. Weight is one of my top 3 thing I take into consideration.
Great review....Thanks....!
What are your thoughts on the Duratrak RT's vs these AT4W's? Are you planning on doing a video on the new Duratrak RT?
I live in the northeast. I need something that works VERY well in the snow.
Loving my At4w mine are made in Japan
I love mine as well
What would you recommend for snow?
Thanks for the great video and info. I’m surprised you noticed a decline in snow handling…
Do you have the LT tires and what tire pressures do you run?
Thank you
Do you to performance in sea to sky driving during heavy snow
Keep that these are worse than the at3 in the snow. I love my at3 on my 4runner now. Loved them on my tacoma as well. Looking forward to the new redesigned duratrac rt.
crazy question, does one side of the tire show the white lettering...
@@mikethomas7138 just black
Great video, what is the tire and suspension set up you got on your 4Runner?
What percentage difference in snow traction would you say over the AT3W?
If the AT3Ws were 100% I’d give these an 80%. Not much but enough to notice
@@T4Rgarageat what air pressure? With the sidewalls being heavier shouldn't be a problem to run them at like 35 psi instead of 40 psi. I say this since I live in Canada 🇨🇦 and with alot of winter ❄️ months, minus 20 to minus 30 Celsius is very common even to minus 40 for short periods, so far from things I'm hearing I would probably still get them when the version 3's wear down. Having a Rubicon Jeep Gladiator with 4:10 gears I don't see an issue with going from the factory 285/70/17 to a 285/75/17 it is possible that the additional sidewall span and 5 psi down the performance might still be quite acceptable, haven't seen any testing that detailed yet. Wondering what you might know of any..?
I bought the AT4w for my gmc at4 but got the non LT tires. So far so good but gas mileage decreased
Looking at getting these for my 21 trd off-road 4Runner. Anyone have a recommendation that would be better in the snow in the AT segment? The 3w is basically gone in my area so that’s not an option. Great Video! Very helpful. ✌️
I live in Alaska and we get snow from November - April. My AT3w have been great in the winter. Would you still recommend these for that much snow driving?
Off subject, when your prinsu rack is loaded down and your on the dirt does it creak?
I’ve got the exact same wheels w/ 285/70/17 AT3w’s on a silver LX570, and that gray color looks good against a lighter shade vehicle. So I can see your darker color 4Runner needing darker wheels. You said your truck was overloaded heavy, how much would you guess weight wise? My LX is about 6000 lbs empty and those Wildpeaks are LTs, feel much stiffer than my old OEM 20”wheels. They are great off-road which is why I got them but I don’t think the heavier AT4w’s would be suitable. That is why I am asking about your vehicle weight. Thx for the video comp of the Falkens, btw.
I love these tires. Just got some at4w’s on my sequoia. What psi are you running when on paved roads?
@@danhett7385 32-37. See what your door tag reads. I’ve added a lot of extra weight to my rig so I can run a bit more pressure
I like these better than the Toyo open roads. Better grip in rain
Falken advertises them as 3 ply, typically they’re heavier than KO3s
Depends. My size (LT275/70R18) theyre virtually identical (60.3 and 60.4 lbs)
Would you do these, Toyo AT3 or MT Baja Boss? Can’t decide.
Is that an OVS or ARB awning? Thanks. 👍🏻🌵
@@mikecrivello4908 ARB
Thanks, just found your channel while shopping for Toyo Open Country or Falken wild peaks for my 23’ 4Runner. I must’ve watched about a dozen, and I finally found yours in which you actually take the tires off road to review them. 🤦♂️🤠 Keep up the great work! 🙏🏻👍🏻🌵
Interested in these tires. Question: How do well do they stay balanced, and how would you compare them to the new KO3's? My scenario; F-150 towing a travel trailer, so I'm 85% highway towing with only about 15% mild off-road driving on forest roads and trails while exploring from campgrounds. I've had Ridge Grapplers (better for off-road) and Toyo AT3's (good wet performance but hard to keep balanced, for some reason). Summary: AT4W or KO3 is what I've narrowed down to comparing. The one that is solid with staying balanced and always providing a smooth ride without having to go back to get re-balanced is the winner, for me. Thank you for your input. Cheers! Pete in Arizona - KI7LIL
I've had my AT4Ws for about 5500 miles now and 3 tire shops have not been able to get them balanced.
All 3 used road force balance and could not get them within spec. Currently in the process of making a warranty claim with Falken for all 5 tires because they can't be balanced.
Maybe I just got a bad set because everyone else seems to absolutely love these. But they're so out of balance, my 4runner just shakes going down the highway.
@@jensalan Oh wow, sorry to hear of the balancing troubles and hope it gets resolved for you quickly! I'm at 35K miles with my factory tires and am still doing comparative shopping between brands... should be purchasing pretty soon, though, and am kinda leaning towards the KO3's. Thank you for sharing your experience with the AT4W's!
From my research AT3W > K03 > AT4W > K02
What load range are you running?
Aren't these at4 6ply? And weight like 69 lbs? At least the 35/11.50 17 I am. Looking for.
I've got Load Range E KO2s on my Silverado and they suck golf balls through garden hoses in the rain.
You should have gone over, on road vs off road snow traction, as well if you were air downed ❤️
Did you notice a decline in MPG with the tires?
I would have appreciated recommended optimal tire pressure with these tires.
@@malachi487 The tires will state the “Max PSI” on the sidewall but the actual recommended tire pressure is usually vehicle specific. Look at your drivers side door tag to see what your vehicle manufacturer recommends for your particular vehicle.
Thank you sir. Is there optimal pressure for any one brand of tire or is tire pressure purely specific to the type of driving that you will do (eg off road, rain or snow, regular pavement)?
@@malachi487 Door tag for regular on road use in dry,rain, snow. You can air down at your own discretion when off-road and for deep snow/sand. I wouldn’t go below 15psi though unless you have beadlocks
Recently subscribed. What country are these made in ?
@@nickb1690 It can vary depending on size/make. Mine say “Sumitomo Rubber USA, LLC. Made in U.S.A.” On the side
I live in Texas and am currently running the AT3Ws. Do you think I should get the 4s next or will the 3s still be better since I deal with rain more than snow?
I think they discontinued the AT3Ws. You might have to go with the AT4W (which in my opinion is a great tire).
Have the 4's on my tundra, drove to work today in some crazy rain. They handle awesome so far, bout 10k on them.
@@vincentowens3513 You should do a you-tube review on them. No one has any past 4k yet.
Review the new cooper strongholds please
I wouldn't bother with the Cooper Strongholds if you don't already have them.
Cooper is owned by Goodyear.
The Stronghold is almost identical to the Goodyear AT's
I've had the Goodyear AT's in the past, and they have always been horrible, especially on heavier pickup trucks.
If you have them already, and they work for you, that's great.
I'm just expressing my observations.
If you don't have them, Toyo, Mickey Thompson, Falken and Yokohama make really good all terrains.
I just put 6 Falken AT4's on my F350 dump truck.
I'll be installing Mickey Thompson AT's on my pickup truck.
The Mickey's have a little more open tread to evacuate mud.
I've spent numerous hours researching and found what works for me.
I hope this info is helpful.
if all you cared about was wet weather and mud with
If you don’t get much snow, the Toyo Open Country AT3 are also a good choice and they are light. I do think these are a great all-around performer though
@@T4Rgarage good deal. thanks!
@@stevenpeterson8444I can vouch for the Toyo’s
I have a 2016 4Runner with an ARB Summit Bumper and 10K winch so pretty heavy up front. Do have Old Man Emu heavy springs and shocks and Icon upper control arm up front and medium springs and OME shocks in the rear. Looking for anyone's experience with and recommendations with Falken Wildpeak AT4W 285/7/17 in SL or C load. For the amount of weight up front, I'm concerned about the SL not being stiff enough side wall, but also C load adds 10 pounds per tire. But I'm just as concerned about the potential of a tire puncture issue on trail with SL load. Appreciate any advice.
Just installed these on my ‘21 TRD ORP. Trying to get the tires set to the best pressure for daily driving. Any recommendations?
Been a month, how do you like them?
@@dbphillips1978 So far no complaints. Ride seems similar if not a bit improved from original equipment tires.
@@toddgraham7033 right on, thanks.
So your tires were the SL rating?
Me hearing my AT3 performs more well on snow (nods with a smile) while i'm on a tropical country 😂
How much worse is the gas mileage?
For me about .25 mpg better mileage on a 480 mile trip (I’m in a 3/4 ton). So basically the same as my Tremor Wranglers.
@@ShelbyvsViper Hi…may I ask what kind of MPG you are getting? I have a 2022 F350 Tremor…just recently put 285/75/R18 (stock) AT4W’s on while in Montana (no sales tax)on a trip to Glacier NP. I immediately noticed about 2.5 mpg drop and thought I was in a very long regeneration. I had been on the fence with the Duratrac RT…62lbs verses 68 and slightly less rolling resistance. Well….drove all the way back from Montana averaging 15.9 for the trip with a light (1400lbs) pop up camper. I was getting 17.3 or so on way up. I typically run 65…I’m in no hurry. Anyway…I was in process of exchanging at Discount for the RT’s…and I kept trying to figure out what was different, because I really liked the AT4W’s. Quiet….and planted on road. Longer story shorter…I have always used Archoil every fill up….however…just before getting these tires put on, I had used another, cheaper, additive. I got home and added the appropriate amount of Archoil for fuel I had in tank and drove a 125 miles with hills, and secondary highways. Damned if I didn’t get 20 mpg for that trip per computer….which is what I have always used. I was empty, no camper, pulling a small utility trailer. I never thought that I was getting any improvement on mpg with the Archoil…just lubrication. All that to say….i guess I am sticking with the AT4W. I’m glad to hear it’s about the same as the Duratracs which is what I had on.
better treadlife due to harder compound and increased tread depth, which is also why they wweigh more. Smoother on road due to thicker exterior tread blocks, wwhich is why they're also more stable in cornering. Gonna be nearly impossible to compare snoww performaance without a back to back comparrison in identical vehicles in the same snow. Should theoretically perform worse in packed snow and comparable or better in deep snow.
Great video. I was so happy to find your video where you've run these things in every condition for some time.
I find ALL A/Ts and M/Ts lousy in the snow/ice (interior British Columbia here). Deep dry snow (+10 inches) that no one has molested is a dream with M/Ts. But as soon as it gets polished, they are useless. As you mentioned, it has to be the hardness of the rubber in pursuit of mileage.
I'm spoiled by always running sipped snow tires every year. But it's a pain in the hoop to swap and store tires twice a year. And I always worry what is hiding under the snow ready to punji stab the soft snowies.
So I'm looking for a replacement set of tires for my Excursion. Your video has given me confidence to go with these Falkens. I've been banging away at the world wide interweave for months agonizing over brand, type, size and cost.
Contrary to your comment, I've found them to be closer to the cheap side of the curve for 235 85 R16 @ $275 Canadian (Black Circles Canada.). I'm swapping out KO2s that I found completely vanilla and horrible in snow. The mud aspect of the Falkens concerns me as I've been spoiled by running Firestone M/Ts on my Suzuki Grand Vitara. Those tires are unstoppable until you slice sidewalls with sharp alder stick left over at ground level in forest burns. I've done 2 this year.
Thanks for the video!
Way too heavy for me now. Firmly a 1/2 ton truck tire now
Which load? E?
It is only heavier if you get the "Duraspec" tire variant.
I went from an AT3W HD to an AT4W HD tire, and the AT4s were a .3 lb increase.
The dura spec ones are good for durability, but they are indeed heavy. I went from load E 285 general grabbers to load C 255 at4ws, and they are just as heavy or even a bit more. It's crazy how heavy they are
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58 lb a tire is heavy asf
@@joelgarza3224 53.4lbs for my 285/70/17 SL . I couldn’t find lighter for the KO3 with what they were currently offering.
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