SFF PC Noctua Cooling Mod | HP Elitedesk NH-L9i Install
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- Опубликовано: 13 окт 2024
- We're installing a Noctua NH-L9i in this HP Elitedesk 800 G3 SFF computer to see if it is an improvement over the terrible stock cooler. This install requires modifying the case, but is very easy to do and offers a cheap upgrade for these already cheap computers.
The processor is a 65 watt TDP i5 6500, which the Noctua NH-L9i is perfect for, but will the lack of airflow through the case be a problem? Yes, obviously yes.
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I use a Noctua U12S in my x99 build cooling a 16 core / 32 thread E5-2698v3 Xeon and it works fantastic. I use that machine for editing 4k60 video from a DJI Osmo Action and editing huge amounts of raw photos and it barely hits 55c under full load.
And that's 55c in an NZXT H510 case too, which has absolutely atrocious airflow.......
what montherboard do you use?
I have a EliteDesk 800 G5 and have not found a fan speed control in the BIOS. I have been looking at solutions since I do use it to serve games and the heat gets out of control and disconnects users till it cools off. Which is only a few seconds. It reports only going to 80C, but I think there is a spike that I cannot see and the CPU goes into thermal for a few cycles. I think it is because the aluminum heatsink is fine for easy tasks. But if there is a spike in temp the cooler does not pull heat out instantly like a copper/heat pipe design would. I noticed the capacitor issue as well and have been shy on spending money to find a replacement cooler. This really guides me in a great direction. Thank you for posting this!
Yeah, that shroud really helps. I just got a 600 G4 with an i5-8600 in it and have been trying to figure out some better cooling whilst retaining that, or another shroud. I wonder if the L9i you used with a standard 25mm thick fan would be better because more static pressure. You could also look at putting a centrifrugal blower fan blowing out the back of the case, might not even have to be a big one. I'll be sure to keep an eye on Your channel for more progress.
I'll have to look into a regular thickness fan, because with a modified shroud it could be really good.
Do CPU with low TDP version like i5 8500t and i5 8600t works on the HP EliteDesk 600/800 G4?
Thanks for covering this ❤
Why did. you damage the housing to geht the cooler fit in? I did drill the Noctua brackets instead from 3 to 3,5mm holes and used M3 screws to tighten the brackets to the original mounting holes in the housing. Works perfect and I didn‘t had to destroy the housing. Also swapped the i5 6500 to an i7 6700.
so instead of beating the brackets down, you can simply drill them out?
@@adamhughes5678 No- I did drill the small holes in the Noctua mounting brackets from 3 to 3,5mm, which allowed me to tighten it with M3 screws to the original spots which have M3 thread already
I’ve done this but with a Dell Optiplex 3080, I modified the case a little bit but at the end it made a huge difference, bringing down temps by 20C
Upgrading from a solid aluminum mass to a heat pipe style cooler has big efficiency benefits you might only see when comparing how quickly things heat up / cool down
Interesting that the BIOS fan curve seems to find equilibrium at 70c regardless of cooler, but it bet the noctua fan not doing nearly as much work as the original cooler
For what it’s worth, I think 70c is great at full tilt! Especially since most home lab servers don’t spend much time up there
I reckon you're probably right about the stock fan curve, which would explain why the noctua fan didn't speed up; because it didn't need to. I hadn't expected HP to put any effort into the stock fan control, so I assumed it wasn't very smart, but it seems like it is.
Does the fan noise improve compared to the stock cooler? I have an Elitedesk 800 G5 that I use for music production and the fan noise gets annoying under medium to high loads. I would definitely upgrade to this cooler if it means a quieter system.
Datasheet states 24dB and 15dB with their power restrictor.
Great vid exactly what I was looking for
Nice video. I just wanted to ask if this would fot the G4 version of this
Just did your mod and you’re right about the power supply fan noise. Can you link to the low noise adapter?
It is the Noctua NA-SRC7 that you'll want. I unfortunately only had the 3 pin one when I made this video.
@@serversciencelow noise adapter installed and can confirm it works perfectly. Cool and quiet. Great mod and video. Thanks.
@@dirty504 How did you manage to connect the low noise adapter? I opened the psu of my elitedesk g5 800 and the connector is different. It's 4 pins, but it seems thinner and the little plastic 'bars' that slide into the connector are different. (the adapter has two, the psu fan has a big one in the middle). The Noctua NA-SRC7 just doesn't fit. I could remove the whole plastic from the psu connector, but before I make irreversible damage I thought I'd ask.
But i had a different plan of Simply install an noctua 80mm fan on cpu cooler and back exhaust but I think your plan gives a better end result.
Btw. Mine has an i7 7700. And I remember from old days. They were like fire. Even my bequiet pure rock 2 slim had problems
How about the turbine in the Mini series? I've bought Prodesk 400 with i3-8100T and expected it to be, if not a bit more quiet, the noise to be less ear drilling. Are those fans/turbines easily replaceable, beacuse the port it is connected to is signed 'P8 CPU FAN'?
What would be a good option for the ryzen versions of this
These companies do things to save costs and also to make customers come to them for parts or service..they don't want you to easily fix or replace a part yourself...it isn't wirth complaining as this is how real life is..part of the deal of buying these systems is dealing with those work arounds....they are easy to fix if you have done repairs or made stuff yourself....i add a rear exhaust fan in my computers ( starting building them in the early 1990's ) and these smaller cases need help to run cool... i was away from building for awhile but my sons needing computers and i need a newer one too got me working again ... i have 4 now...and the boys have ones that they are enjoying.... mine are used older ones that i am happy with... not really any different other than the ones i built from scratch... these small cases are ok but can be problematic dealing with some upgrades ( gpu and psu connectors ) but the problems are minor and easily worked out...i have 50+ years of fixing anything or fabricating too...
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Noctua PSU fan mod...(Only, if you feel comfortable doing so!)
I recently saw another RUclipsr turn around the PSU fan on another type of sff PC to change airflow direction to press cold air into the case and drop temperatures quite a bit.
Good idea, but unfortunately Noctua doesn't make 70mm fans, which is what the PSU in this system needs.
@@serverscience Although it is a bit smaller, a 60mm fan should still be sufficient, if there is space for 25mm thickness. And you'd need to get a little bit creative to fix it in there, either by elongating the mounting holes inward a little or by twisting the fan a little bit and drilling new ones.
Another thing that will make noise is the 'fan grill' in the PSU. I'd cut that out and replace it with a classical one made from round wire.
I have to admit: That's a lot of modifying already. And as I wrote you'll have to know what you are doing, as you'll have to disassemble the PSU quite a bit, to protect the circuit board from shavings.
Hi I have HP G5 8700 i7 like this I have 32G ram and looking at a amd rx7800 do u think I can go for it or will there be a lot of bottle nicking please help like to play 4k
Im searching atm for my first mini homelab pc. To run vms and replace a raspberry pi. What gen is good to start with?
Most of the generations are pretty good, but in terms of efficiency, probably aim for HP's 3rd gen or newer (or an equivalent Dell or Lenovo), and also get at least 4 cores.
I like your content. Thank you.
See if you can buy a Xeon E3 1270V5 ($20) for this, very cheap and slightly faster i7 6700 alternative!
Does this fan fit the Lenovo thinkcentre m910s sff
I don't have one, so I don't know for sure, but if it has the standard CPU cooler mounting hole locations, then it potentially may work.
Can i use this on the elitedesk 800 gen 3 TWR model?
I don't have one myself, so I can't be sure, but it looks like you'd be able to install a larger cooler than this one fairly easily.
i use a liquid freezer ii 420 for the same system :)
Really?
The case is too small for this AIO 😅
Freeeeeee airrrrr :D
Side panel off ?
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If you find a way to unlock the UEFI for any GPUs and CPUs let me know.
Edit: The GPU 35W limit is a suggestion and can mostly be ignored.
There probably is a way to remove the 65w cpu limit. I haven’t looked into it though.
@@serverscience The bigger issue a have is that I can’t replace the CPU if I put a different CPU in it it dose not start.
@@jacobscheit4128Which CPU did you have, and which are you trying to replace it with?
@@serverscience need to take a look but I think it was a low power 4C APU but then I try to put a 8C CPU in it with a dedicated GPU I get no picture and it dose not boot.
@jacobscheit4128 Unfortunately, that restriction is present on most of the OEM AMD systems. They're locked to specific series of CPUs, such as Ryzen Pro or the Bristol Ridge APUs, depending on the system. What I have read suggests that it may be because of a lower end chipset, rather than the bios.