Fyi, from the map description: 76 is intended to be a remake of 815. As for the naming, 76 comes from year 1776, as 8.15 stood for the Korean Independence day. Which... is probably an excuse for putting Overwatch Soldier76 design in the center lol
Dark Origin's name is taken from the single player campaign's secret mission. The stasis cells are also a reference there of. Can't wait to see it in the next ASL!
I legit heard "one player map" and this picture of artosis playing vs noone just having a beer and building a base for no reason can't leave my head now.
Ive seen royal vs snow on 76 and it was super funny.. the map has 1 mineral patch next to the nexus, like a fastest map.. and the ramp is super tiny, only marines, zealots and lings fit there. I think we are going to see many marines on tvp
If you could get some game of the new maps on ArtosisCast before ASL, that would be great. Also, maybe just test the map yourself, like VS a computer? Just to show all the special things
I could have sworn Artosis watched a game on Dark Origin once (although he says otherwise). I swear it was one of those matches in that race wars tournament he played the last game of and he watched a map. At the very least Dark Origin was played in A BSL (the international Broodwar Tourney it was 14 or 15 I think). I saw one match played on Dark Origin and it was TvZ and Terran got an early edge and went into Mech while his opponent went Hydra Lurker maybe? The entire game was fought on the 6 bridges which kinda made sense because it's Mech Terran vs Zerg and Mech Terran vs Zerg has zero mobility and the Zerg player was just preying on Terran overextensions. So yeah if you want to see Dark Origin played then one of the BSLs had a bunch of games casted by blokes like Gypsy. Edited because I called Dark Origin Dark Temple for some reason
Maybe the idea of 76 is that the mineral boost wants to act as half a base? So the main base + back base = 2.5 bases of minerals and 3 of gas. Would still be kinda funky for Zerg due to needing to guard the ramp without creep unless you get another Hatch there.
The map variety is so much better in Brood War, where you can get crazy maps and still make it fun and balanced enough. Starcraft 2 balance hangs by a thread, and if there's a single overlord pillar out of position, the hard tries go crazy and demand the maps to be removed. Now all we have is the same S shaped map everywhere.
@@Fohnzii He was part of a huge crypto pump and dump scandal in Korea where, along with other Starcraft ex-pros such as Bisu and Sea, enticed viewers to invest in a new cryptocurrency made by one of their individual sponsors. They discussed how they made a lot of money, some fans invested in return taking their word for it, then BOOM! Crashed. It was so scandalous that Flash's RUclips channel has its comments section now turned off, and a channel dedicated to old VOD highlights almost always censored Flash's face, or had it replaced with the image of a Bitcoin. While the other players have apologized and made amends, Flash has yet to do so, but since he's still in military until May, there hasn't been much.
76 looks real crazy but HBR? Why not blue storm or destination while we are at it.. Maybe we will see some good games on it but not holding my breath. Overall though I think we will get good games with a pinch of chaos from 76 :)
Dark origin is probably the best, but I want to see some 76 action. That's where I miss pro-league where they have to play all the potentially terrible or amazing maps.
But if terran decided to go wrath the carriers might be countered. pvt, I guess I must have thought that you said that it's just a carrier map, like carriers would be really good on it. Which if against terran or potentially protoss it, yes can good unless their opponent counters it with said wrath or in for protoss, either corsair or scout.
on slyphid. Terran and Zerg are favored vs Protoss statisticaly. Terrans early pushes close rush distant no highground to kite dragoons. and you can siege main because on lowground Zerg main is easy to muta harass because no vision no room for cannons (hydra bust) maps like 76 where you cant flank with army vs terran and are forced to engage tanks single file because middle is clogged. shame on the terran for letting protoss get to carriers if thats your rebuttle.
It's crazy to hear Artosis give his takes on things like map balance, considering he's an "analyst". In other sports, people like Madden or Romo were top of their fields and then retired to the commentary booth. RT is just there despite neither skill or accurate calls. I'm excited to see these maps played completely differently than he expects and the "anti-Terran" takes he always has. Gotta love it.
Oh man I can't wait for the games!
actually im waiting for rt to play these maps so he can take a first hand lookout to how to lose...XD
Only available for his twitch vids, yo!
Ok
Fyi, from the map description: 76 is intended to be a remake of 815.
As for the naming, 76 comes from year 1776, as 8.15 stood for the Korean Independence day.
Which... is probably an excuse for putting Overwatch Soldier76 design in the center lol
Dark Origin's name is taken from the single player campaign's secret mission. The stasis cells are also a reference there of. Can't wait to see it in the next ASL!
76 looks crazy but I’m stoked for Dark Origin, too. Looks like it has a lot of potential for some fun stuff
I legit heard "one player map" and this picture of artosis playing vs noone just having a beer and building a base for no reason can't leave my head now.
Ive seen royal vs snow on 76 and it was super funny.. the map has 1 mineral patch next to the nexus, like a fastest map.. and the ramp is super tiny, only marines, zealots and lings fit there. I think we are going to see many marines on tvp
Do you have a link to the match?
If you could get some game of the new maps on ArtosisCast before ASL, that would be great. Also, maybe just test the map yourself, like VS a computer? Just to show all the special things
Kwark showmatch anyone?
yeah, I'd love a deep dive into every inch of these new maps!
I could have sworn Artosis watched a game on Dark Origin once (although he says otherwise). I swear it was one of those matches in that race wars tournament he played the last game of and he watched a map.
At the very least Dark Origin was played in A BSL (the international Broodwar Tourney it was 14 or 15 I think). I saw one match played on Dark Origin and it was TvZ and Terran got an early edge and went into Mech while his opponent went Hydra Lurker maybe? The entire game was fought on the 6 bridges which kinda made sense because it's Mech Terran vs Zerg and Mech Terran vs Zerg has zero mobility and the Zerg player was just preying on Terran overextensions.
So yeah if you want to see Dark Origin played then one of the BSLs had a bunch of games casted by blokes like Gypsy.
Edited because I called Dark Origin Dark Temple for some reason
Maybe the idea of 76 is that the mineral boost wants to act as half a base? So the main base + back base = 2.5 bases of minerals and 3 of gas.
Would still be kinda funky for Zerg due to needing to guard the ramp without creep unless you get another Hatch there.
Its another Zerg island map. But instead of opening up islands like Inner Coven the islands start open and close around the minute mark.
The map variety is so much better in Brood War, where you can get crazy maps and still make it fun and balanced enough. Starcraft 2 balance hangs by a thread, and if there's a single overlord pillar out of position, the hard tries go crazy and demand the maps to be removed. Now all we have is the same S shaped map everywhere.
Arty, have you ever thought of doing a map? You have great insight, could make for an interesting one!
I like how 76 just got crazier and crazier every time you went back.
Things flagged as hallucination will always destroy themselves after 56.7 seconds after map start
I am excited for this season. I think it will be a good one.
When I saw the 76 in the thumbnail I thought it was clickbait
Holy shit what a map
I LOVE HEARTBREAK RIDGE SO EXCITED TO SEE IT BACK!!!
Yeah it'll be interesting to see it again.
Super excited for yet another ASL season!
ASL S15 HYYYYYYPEEEEEEE
Im certainly an old fart when i instantly noticed HBR. Despise that map LOL
Ah watched this on twitch, shame cos I wanna support here too
Your comment helped the algorithm ❤️
76 looks like a geniune firebat drop map. I'm ready. My build is gonna be meta in ASL.
Bifrost is a map I didn't think anyone else remembered.
I hope Flash will be back for this ASL! Can't wait to see the games!
I think he’s in the military for now, dude
@@joe8133 What do you mean?
@@WisecrackJax He's back in a couple months
@@Fohnzii He was part of a huge crypto pump and dump scandal in Korea where, along with other Starcraft ex-pros such as Bisu and Sea, enticed viewers to invest in a new cryptocurrency made by one of their individual sponsors. They discussed how they made a lot of money, some fans invested in return taking their word for it, then BOOM! Crashed. It was so scandalous that Flash's RUclips channel has its comments section now turned off, and a channel dedicated to old VOD highlights almost always censored Flash's face, or had it replaced with the image of a Bitcoin.
While the other players have apologized and made amends, Flash has yet to do so, but since he's still in military until May, there hasn't been much.
@@RichardJamesMendoza Wow, wild, thanks for the explanation.
Looking forward! Thanks for the content RT
I am so glad we are getting map analysis from you and Nick this time. :D
For 76 there's 7 mineral patches at the natural and 6 patches at the third.
are you going to cast asl with taseless?
looks like named 76 after the gas station, considering the gas issue at natural lol
I can skip breakfast but never a new upload from artosis
How do they pick the maps for ASL? All players suggests the maps and those most v suggested get picked?
Retro is basically FS 2.0
Dark Origin looks awesome
76 looks insane
i agree with the tosis on 76 being vetoed a lot; being forced to take that 2 gas base makes some match ups basically unplayable.
Dark Origin looks interesting! wonder what pros will be inventing there
76 feels like it could be a Mini style map.
It’s funny he didn’t notice that only small units can go down the ramp which is by far the weirdest part about it
Cant wait for the next asl :) you are the man.
Dark origen looks so cool and good!
FYI: the map description reads
The map “76” minerals disappear after ‘56 sec’ hence blocking the path to the double gas expansion
where can you dl this maps??? i cant find it anywhre
the heartbreak ridge flashbacks are painful
Can u send in maps to asl? How do they Come up with the maps?
Heartbreak ridge pog. It's like the dust 2 of starcraft
When does the next season start?
Can someone please post that website where I can download the ASL maps. THANK YOU!!!
76 is Monopoly but instead of a cool fun map it's an insane fever dream
Do you know what 76 is? It's Sparkle crossed with Monopoly.
Who the fuck woke up one day and was like "yo what if we crossed Sparkle with Monopoly?"
76 looks real crazy but HBR? Why not blue storm or destination while we are at it.. Maybe we will see some good games on it but not holding my breath. Overall though I think we will get good games with a pinch of chaos from 76 :)
When ASL 15 begin? Any date yet?
14 II 2023
Qualifiers are on 28/29 I 2023
Dark origin is probably the best, but I want to see some 76 action. That's where I miss pro-league where they have to play all the potentially terrible or amazing maps.
Looking forward to you raging, I'll be watching your content on your fan's channels, like invisible men productions and artosis brood war clips
like a mini fastest map.. :D
76 would have been better with a different center section. Armies having to circle around it, like in Monopoly, does not make for cool gameplay.
Heartbreak ridge! Finally playing schnail can help me with maps XD
76 carrier map
Eclipse best map ever. Especially for Mario and Peach.
Carriers in PvT seem like a bit of a yikes on 76
Not if it is intended to be an island map. Carriers would just get countered especially against zerg.
@@zekehartley326 I said PvT, and carriers are good at island maps
But if terran decided to go wrath the carriers might be countered. pvt, I guess I must have thought that you said that it's just a carrier map, like carriers would be really good on it. Which if against terran or potentially protoss it, yes can good unless their opponent counters it with said wrath or in for protoss, either corsair or scout.
have not got back in BW since remastered but is Lost Temple still a thing ?😶 just curious
Hehe no
map was imba 20 years ago still imba now, should never see it in ASL.
@@chloesmith4065 the reworked version was not that bad for 1v1 with starting location at 6 and 12😅
"You can't actually take this"
He knows players can take more than one expansion right?
Heartbreak Ridge! YellOw beats Bisu!!!!
lets go Snow hahaha! 🦶
Only maps that favor Terrans
on slyphid. Terran and Zerg are favored vs Protoss statisticaly.
Terrans early pushes close rush distant no highground to kite dragoons. and you can siege main because on lowground
Zerg main is easy to muta harass because no vision no room for cannons (hydra bust)
maps like 76 where you cant flank with army vs terran and are forced to engage tanks single file because middle is clogged. shame on the terran for letting protoss get to carriers if thats your rebuttle.
BW maps are so good, its a shame for SC2 that its not even close!
Woot woot
1776 WILL COMMENCE AGAIN
It's crazy to hear Artosis give his takes on things like map balance, considering he's an "analyst". In other sports, people like Madden or Romo were top of their fields and then retired to the commentary booth. RT is just there despite neither skill or accurate calls. I'm excited to see these maps played completely differently than he expects and the "anti-Terran" takes he always has. Gotta love it.
English is a foreign language to the top of the BW scene. You probably don't have a lot of top NFL pros doing analysis in Korean.
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