How to Build THE PERFECT Control Scheme in Smash Ultimate
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MK LEO
*shows ZeRo on screen*
XDDDF
I was thinking exactly that
I think they mention MK Leo instead of ZeRo now because it's better to sell the coaching. They probably figured it out that ZeRo wasn't as strong in Ultimate.
"NES Controller"
_shows SNES Controller_
so. no one knows you can put one of the bumpers to jump for easy short hops? if you put for example L to jump too you can press L and Y at the same time and it will always short hop
Video starts at 4:45, you're welcome
Lmao ur actually right, until 4:45 Is just filler
I've noticed this channel is awful about patting their videos with filler to get it past the ten minute mark
Thx
jaed they also try to advertise their website
Thx bro
Slime controller no doubt
Hero mains be like
@@blaze7161 yeah, no doubt
Sf30 pro entered the chat
You sound like an un-doubtful person.
Single drifting joycon really good too
legends says elite smash Belmont players have all buttons map to special for max optimization.
Its split half and half between special and smash attacks
All shield for impenetrable strength
ZING!!
Only for ness and Zelda tho
I went to a tourney and I'm pretty sure a snake or Simon player actually did this
Correction:
The Optimal way of Playing Smash is with the Wii Balance Board, with the DK Bongos being a close 2nd, and the Dragon Quest Slime at 3rd Place.
Jero Valentin ill stick to single joycon thanks
I'll stick to GamePad
I use wii fit and dk bongos! It's optional
I'll stick to my DDR pad thank you very much
Amateur! I'm still going the classic way with the Power-Glove!
0:36
“We got courses from pros like MKLeo!”
*shows zero*
I paused right when he said it to see if anybody commented this.
DAMMIT U BEAT ME TO IT
Holy shit nice comment
Yeah I don’t think I’ll ever trust that, these videos help me learn tho
Chubby zero lol, he changed so much
NES Controllers
Shows SNES controller.
I do Z jump and XY grab. Took FOREVER to retrain my brain but was honestly the most tangible improvement I've ever felt in Smash. Being able to execute any direction aerial with the C stick without darting your thumb to X to jump is a godsend. Your air mobility feels improved tenfold.
I do a morph of this on a GCpro controller. ZR & Y jump with X for grab.
That leaves the A+Y short hop aireal option open and easy.
Which z do you mean?
@@IamtheWV17 yo i basically do the same thing, and your absolutely right about the ease and having both jump options
@@CianThoYTI think zr
Ahem,
You appear to have left out the solo wiimote, the single best way to play smash competitive
Get out facker
Reggie Fils-aime I think you can’t even use that in ultimate
Reggie Fils-aime I’ve actually seen someone use wii mote in a Top 8 brawl major tournament 😭😭
That's how I've done it for years since brawl was all I had for a few years. Good thing I'll be getting a switch in 2-6 weeks after about a year of not being able to play Smash
@@bandawin18 get ready for hell muffin. using the f k n left stick to move is TORTURE and... windy inaccurate
"Disconnect your pro controler!"- every TO ever and for ever.
Why not far yet
I have the power A GameCube wireless is that bad?
T.A - Dust “Lemme just chuck my controller in the bottom backpack”
@@garenthal9638 ik this was 11 months ago but get yourself a real gc controller if you want to play somewhat competitively, or even just want to get good in general
@@lucio-ohs8828
Bad advice. Use whatever YOU feel comfortable with. That's better advice. People in sfv used to say use only arcade sticks and now the best players in the world are pad players why? Because it is what they grew up with and what they were comfortable with.
Pro tip: if you hit jump and A at the same time while holding a direction, you can quickly and easily execute a short-hop aerial. This also works for doing a quick short-hop special. For setting up things like ness PSI-magnet combos
I do this all the time, as it makes short jumping more consistent for me. You can also hit x&y to do perform a short jump and the late hit after
Guys guys, don't expect to grow so fast. Everything takes time
10:58 I've noticed Zackray's controls before, but the last 6 months, he's switched to GameCube, because pro controller wireless problems... Just FYI.
do you know the problem?
@@trina2688 Connectivity *during* matches. Too many wireless controllers at one venue caused latency, reportedly. He felt like he lost some things because of it, or at least that's what I was told, so he made the switch.
saw this when he played at evo japan
Just use the wired controller
8:32 Was a synchronized timing.
Okay so maybe this is an uncommon setup but I haven't seen people talking about it and I find it really comfortable. On a pro controller, I set B to jump, Y to attack, A to special, X to grab, Tilt stick, Tap Jump off, ZL to jump to make shorthopping easier, ZR and R to shield, and L to basically anything because I haven't found a good mapping for it just yet. Compared to normal controls, this seems really bizarre and even weirder than Zackray's controls. But it also works really well for me. More people should try it out.
It may be helpful to have a controller scheme specifically set up for Elite or competitive play. Set your D pad to shield to mash out of control grabs and the such much easier. Save the taunts for friendly play.
Excellent vid!
I def needed to see this. I’ve been playing default settings since smash 1. I can’t beat these competitive ppl online and now this is video def gives hope. Back to training I go. Thank you
Seeing Zackray's unusual control scheme was so surreal to me cause I was like, 'woah, and here I thought all pros did was turn off tap jump'. Been playing with B jump, Y attack, X special, A grab since mid last year and there's always a little side-eye from your opponent when you set your controls like that.
Lol I do the same cept with x and y swaped from your setup. Good to know I aint the only werido
"The sweet sweet asmr the gamecube controller brings to the table" That part right there made me give the video a like
GameCube controller:
“Input lag may be present”
Pro controller:
“It can sometimes be very inconsistent
Me:
“Laughs in my wireless GameCube controller hybrid which for some reason renders as a pro controller on the switch”
Colin Meier i have the same controller
Me too
My favourite controller, super comfy for most games, and the added bumper and select button do wonders
ThatGuyInAMask ikr
pdp?
What I find optimal need a wireless Gamecube Controller for :
- Stick with more precision
- Left bumper and X to jump, C stick to tilt to do easy shorthop and RAR and buffered short hop attacks
- Left and right trigger to shield
- Grab on Y
- A and B unchanged
- Right bumper to special to wavebounce and out of shield pre selected option (if you do a special move and move C stick+jump while on shield, the outcome is different whether you got it on shield or not)
I forgot to mention that the two triggers for shield are cool to tilt shield easily
Maël Reynaud you can till shield if u hold special and shield.
ahmm i havent seen a tournament where joycons are legal...
every local i’ve been to allows them. but they really shouldn’t. when people forget to disconnect them the to has to yell out for 10 minutes trying to find the fucker. usually they have dummy switches out to let people connect to them to disconnect their joycons but it’s still such a hassle. wish there was a setting to disconnect every controller after each game.
knish he literally talks about that in the video, go to system settings, go to controllers, scroll down and press disconnect controllers
@@MyNameZef oop
knish lmao if you had an entire local tournament that didn’t know that then something is wrong there 😂
It's fine and all that there's the option to disconnect controllers, but the second one of the loose controllers are touched, they get synced again, and typically this happens on the character select screen, so it holds up other matches.
I love having L + LZ both being jump. and Leaving R and RZ for Grab and sheild. It makes it super easy to short hop wavedash dance. And Makes ShortHop falling aerials a breeze With the new short hop mechanic in Ultimate
I press LZ+ x to shorthop falling aerial
Do you press L+LZ?
0:03
What? I need a controller to play Smash? You're kidding me. No other game requires one!
bloodmarth i was thinking the same thing!
Just get a controller is not that hard
I really like my setup despite it being wacky. I use joycons most of the time, jump with right trigger, shield with left, left bumper is an alternate special button, right bumper is grab, the topmost button (x or y) is shield, the leftmost (y or x) is jump. Tilt stick, high sensitivity, no tap jump.
I find it much easier and more instinctive to jump with the trigger rather than the buttons because it allows me to more easily attack separate from my jumps, and no extra movement is needed if I want to use the c stick while jumping. The extra special button has a few gimmicky uses but in general doesn’t get in the way, as I still have a grab button. I don’t use X or Y too much but pressing two jump buttons or two shield buttons does have a few uses.
For me everything is standard except with stick jump off, sensitivity high, tilt attack for c stick, and jump as L1 just because of how I use Pichus thunder off stage
@@user-tu1ot8ol1u yea
Personally setting a shoulder button to Jump really helps with forwards Bairs. Along with setting Tilt Stick. I’m able to make sick plays and combos I would otherwise be almost incapable of doing especially with characters with combo-friendly Bairs like Young Link and Link
My setup as a ZSS main is
ZL-Jump, L-grab, ZR-Shield, R-Special, D pad-shield, Right/C Stick- Tilt attack, X and Y- Jump, A- attack, B-special.
XY as jump for short hop, ZL as jump and R as special for b reverse, wavebounce and side b reverse (when coupled with Tilt Stick). Tilt to right stick for easier tilt attacks, b reverse and wavebounce, while having access to quick aerials. D pad on shield for mashing out of grab.
Finally Tap jump off, High Sensitivity on, AB for smash attack as well as rumble is optional
Jump on shoulder is AMAZING. I have A as my grab button, Y as attack and B as special, X as also jump.
Doing a special and jump at the same time is great.
Big Cow Productions with what controller?
@@Pooper I don't know
I use the GameCube really, just because of the little dips in the control sticks. Seems small but makes it so much easier to input different moves
I have a wired Luigi PDP controller, so I have access to all 4 shoulder buttons. My L button is a jump button, R, zR, and zL are the same. Tilts are set up for c stick, and stick jump is still on. For some reason, this works absolutely fantastic for me (coming from a Falcon main).
Here’s my control map
(I use Dual Joycon, planning to get Pro Controller soon)
Buttons And Analog
R Stick goes on Tilt for me
I have a very hard time trying to move the L stick slowly and knowing when to press attack
On the other hand, Smash Attacks are much easier for me to do and I can input them much faster
R Stick Tilt also helps me dash into Tilt attack, for when I’m playing something like Roy, or really any character with high end lag dash attacks
X is jump for comfort
Y is attack for comfort, and because it’s near jump I can short hop aerial much better and it helps a lot.
A is Special, near jump for the same reason
B I don’t really care about, I just put it on Special if I miss input A, which barely happens.
D pad I don’t use
For L and R/ZL and ZR I put Shield on L and Grab on R for comfort, as of other games I play, like Hollow Knight or Metroid Dread (specifically just Metroid, as you can’t change controls in that game) where L is a movement option while R is a type of attack.
Advanced Settings
Rumble is off but I might turn it on just because I might be able to handle Rumble, but for now it’s off.
Attack + Special Smash attack is off
Stick Jump is off
Stick Sens is on normal, I just don’t see the difference turning it low or high
And I think that’s it.
So glad this video wasn’t just “tilt stick tap jump off!” Also citing university studies is pretty legit. 😂
Huh... my setup is kinda similar to Zackray's...
Pro controller:
B - Jump
A - Attack
Y - Special
X - Jump
ZR & R - Shield
ZL & L - Grab
C-Stick - Smash
The jumps being opposite each other on X and B is from the Brawl days, when Ganondorf had short-hop DAir and instant aerial DownB as viable things, and the mental separation of rolling my thumb either direction made sure I knew what I wanted. If I single-finger Shield, I can roll, but if I double-finger it (both on the right), then it's easy to shield-shift.
Don’t know if anyone else knows this but if you change one of the guards into a jump and hit that and another button for jump simultaneously it also counts as a short hop. Requires much less precision that way. Discovered this accidentally but hadn’t stopped since.lol
I'm no pro but I want to share my control scheme anyway.
Jump is ZL
Shield is L & B
Attack is R & Y
Special is ZR & X
Grab is A.
Tilt Stick.
Puts a strain on the left arm when I wasn't used to it but it eventually belcame natural.
Mapping the attacks on the shoulder buttons helps when i need to do Megaman's pellets jump cancel and keeps my thumb on the tilt stick.
His tone is so proper I honestly can't tell if he is giving advice on controllers or trying to sell me a controller.
Incredibly helpful, subscribed.
I like the Pro Controller I own for the AGL and AGR buttons, I have jump on AGR which makes aerials SO easy to combo.
"...or on a long coming-of-age journey through the wilderness, leaving you high and dry" whole ass feeling @4:08
if you press jump and attack at the same time you do an instant short hop ariel so you don’t need to do crazy mapping
In the last few weeks I have really been digging the double joy con controller attachment
I forgot that this was an option. I'm definitely gonna try putting tilts on the cstick. Maybe I'll one day be good at this game lol.
I like how he threw in the tip about disconnecting controllers. Was a big problem at a local I went to with people leaving their BT controllers connected.
I put jump on B, attack on Y specials on X and A, tilt jump off and everything else default (on pro/joycon/portable mode)
Nice video, thanks Proguides
Really helped me thx 😊
I normally play with an entire Switch for games, including Smash. I have Stick Jump usually off so I can use up attacks without jumping, especially when I do Up Air combos like Mario has. Though with Bayonetta's combos needing to use a double jump for Witch Twist to be used, I may make a separate scheme for her. Mostly, I'm using the default controls since it's similar to Smash Wii U, which I probably played the most when it came out.
I played Melee for many years since it came out. I had no issue switching to pro controller and in fact quickly fell in love with it and like it much better than the GC controller.
@@aarondilts6925 Yeah. Feels so weird in the hands now. It's like, how did I ever play with this?
The one thing that aggravates me about the pro controller is the lack of octogan gate about the sticks. My friends gamecube controller helped me with some of the issues it does sometimes, although its weird as hell to hold
I honestly really like using joycons, I remap R to jump and set ZR to grab and ZL to shield and now with the added button remapping in the switch home screen I can also remap L to smash if I wanted to. I jump a lot as a luigi and G&W player, so R jumping and R+X short-hopping feels very comfortable.
I do have a GCC tho, and with that I am struggling to decide whether I should
-have Z be grab and R be jump
-have Z be jump and R be grab
Stick jump off because you cannot do falling up airs unless you've already used your 2nd jump. I main ZSS and short hop falling up air is a ladder combo starter. Pretty important.
Very epic video. Could've talked about claw grip, but other than that it nailed just about every point in the discussion.
yea
My set up is this
-pro controller
-tilt stick
-rumble off, tap jump off
-senstivity high
-a b smash on
-zr jump
-r special
-y attack
-a jump
Everything else is the same
I'm new to competitive smash so getting used to these controls wasn't that hard. I have a shoulder buttons mapped to jump because it makes short hope aerials easy and some advanced tech easier to perform without needing claw grip.
Special is for easier wave bounces
Attack is set to Y because it's closer to the control stick and I play zelda a lot so it's more intuitive for me.
My gamecube controller settings. My top buttons - shield, A - attack, B - special, Y - jump, X - grab, C -tilt. No rumble, no stick jump, high stick sensitivity. Might use a shoulder for jump after this video though
I use a PowerA controller with 2 extra buttons on the back where your fingers rest. I map one to jump (for the same reason as the shoulder jump config) and I map the other to grab
yea
I actually have a pro controller at the moment and use joycons anyway with smash stick because I play falco and i never really misinput a tilt, uh tips for fellow joycon boys. Make stick sensitivity low. Uh dont be too rough on ur sticks unless u like joycon drift
I actually like to map grab to the x button on the gamecube controller, that way my grab is right next to my jump (the y button). I remember my friends always bashing on me for doing this, but idk man it feels faster and more comfortable than hitting z for me.
pro user here. first thing i did when first playing was remap b and a to jump, y to attack x to special. feels like playing a platformer. you automatically short hop when you press jump with either attack or special.
i actually like the joycons because theyre small. less travel with the joysticks and buttons are close together and less clicky. the bumpers also have little travel too
For meta knight ladder it's so much easier to do it with R shoulder as jump and using the stick to input the up airs.
dude yessss zackray, thank you!!! just put grab as my side d-pad button. now i can perform z drops flawlessly!!! :)
if you want to be a luigi main and learn the zero to death make sure to turn stick jump off or you cannot land the u-air in the combo
personally, my 8bitdo snes controller is the best i've used. it has dual toggles like most modern controllers, i just prefer the shape since i grew up on snes. if you want something like the snes controller, i'd recommend that.
As someone who played with default controllers ever since I first picked up a contoller playing smash turning off tap jump, changing my stick to tilt attacks and having muscle memory from using tilts gently it feels so abnormal changing anything lol
"Speaking of taunts,"
I don't like where this is going...
"You can remap the taunt buttons"
*STOP.*
Allzombifood i have A B X Y, DPad, and my sholder muttons set to taunt, i have no attack options but they get to watch robin dance.
I switch the special button (b) and the the jump button (x). I also used tilt stick
I actually am planning to get a wireless game cube controller once i have enough. But as of rn i have my pro controller set up to act similar to a game cube controller.
Thank you for the tip about the tilt stick. I was always doing smash attacks, and the CPU was punishing me for it :|
I dunno if I'm just weird but I put all the shoulder buttons as shield, X as grab for both game cube and pro controller and jump for just the Y
What's everybody's control setup?
I go GCN with Tap Jump off, Rumble off, A+B Smash off, and Stick Sensitivity on normal. L is special, Z is jump, and X is Grab. Everything else is normal.
Having the grab button be one of the face buttons instead of two jump buttons makes it so much easier for me and I play with Claw Grip so short hop aerials aren't affected too bad
Change one of the shoulder buttons to jump And tilt stick to attack cancel bair
Cursed but optimal layout:
Tilt Stick
ZR: jump - flick ring and middle finger for easy IDJ
R: Attack
LR: Shield
L: Special
Y & B: grab
with this set-up you only ever move your thumb off the c-stick to grab and have access to every universal tech (not sure about every characters' specific nutty stuff)
less hand motion means less fatigue/strain and makes it the fastest
On GameCube or standard controllers I just change C stick to tilt. Done
Honestly though, the only big differences between a grounded and aerial up b are with bowser and DK. And if you're trying to up out of shield with DK, then read up. DA is always the better option.
I would choose the Switch Pro Controller because it works on all Switch models including the Switch Lite. The GameCube controller will only work on the GameCube, the original Switch and the upcoming OLED Switch.
I use gc coontroler, tap jump on, high sensitivity, tilt stick, ab smash off and everything else default. It is not hard to do smash attack with the a button. I feel like tilt stick is easier with high sensitivity then smash stick because smash inputs aren't as precise
l wish there was an option to set a button to "switch", and holding that button would allow the c-stick to be something different. For example, it would be really cool if you could set your c-stick to tilt and set that same c-stick to smash if you're holding the button that's mapped to "switch"
yea
I am new to Nintendo used to only xbox but I loooove the game cube controller.
so map right stick to tilt (even though they aren't that hard to land) and map taunt to shield? I can see why you would want to get rid of taunts as most are useless but if you just swap b and x and set y to shield 1. inkling becomes way easier, and 2. you can perform short hop ariels with ease ( on joycon )
I have normal controls except I have tilt stick, stick jump off, and L and ZL both as jump, so if i press both at the same time I can short hop. Also I use the wireless Power A gamecube controller.
"It's a lot easier to flick a joystick than a button"
Why, yes. Maybe because the stick can move, perhaps?
I love the procontroller but when playing shotos the stick feels way to heavy and is easier to missinput so i switched to Gamecube C and its way more accurate, and for the rumble the only character which i feel is actually useful is with lucario because the sphere varies on damage so is quite hard to tell how much it will charge based on visual cues
0/10 they didn't teach me how to use the Slime Controller
I don’t play tournaments or anything but I wish I was god tier only because I’d love to troll people by crushing them with one of those 😆
That is not a legal controller
I’ve seen tournament footage of someone using a single joycon
Why do you care about the joy cons anyway
All I do is turn tap jump off and play using a claw grip. I use c stick for smash attacks and aerials. Everything is so easy to get to.
I definitely recommend no tap jump, tilts and setting a shoulder button to jump. It's called double sticking! It's incredibly fun, useful and comfortable
yea
I have used zackray's set up for a while now and it has help doing float Cancels with peach
Not sure if this has been mentioned yet, you can still easily move your shield with only one shield shoulder button. Just hold your shield trigger and B at the same time, then tilt the stick and you get easy shield tilting
Except inkling mains, because no one likes inkling
zaackray also has his x and y button to jump to press both at the same time with the thumb for super consistent short hops. At least that's what I'm thinking.
The Wii Classic Pro controller is the best controller for smash. It has the stick notches and a normal button layout.
I use a Pro controller, i remapped the face buttons a bit...moved attack from A to B ...moves specials from B to Y...and made A my second jump...its just far more mentally comfortable for me.
yea
Thank you I can now chain 3-4 times with no problem
you know what I would want? a toggle button to change what the C-stick does, Like pressing it switches been tilt and smash mode, this way you can have both Tilt and smash on the C-stick.
yea
And then there's Nairo with default controls.
The Smash game I've played the most is Melee and yet the GC controller is one I dislike a lot, mostly for one reason- the RL triggers. They are so janky and awkward to press and it feels like every press brings it closer to breaking completely. Mine have gotten stuck before too. And yet I can't use the pro controller effectively because I'm too used to the GC controller and hit the ZL/ZR triggers by mistake constantly just trying to find a comfortable way to grip the controller. If there was an option to disable the ZL/ZR buttons, I'd use it. I don't need them.
Got the notification 5 days after upload, nice job RUclips
I set my attack button to y a long time ago because most of the games I played at the time used x on Xbox to attack or y to attack on switch. I haven’t played a single game with that attack since but I’ve kept my control like that since lmao
(I have a set to grab)
Had to sub, you are 2 good at communication.
The reason why Zackray puts grab on left trigger is so that he can do gyro release aerials better with ROB. He said this in a video recently where having grab separate from him right hand which is inputting aerials makes the timing easier. After trying this, I agree as well and have pretty much the same control setup. As for D-Pad set to Grab and Jump, he uses that to mash. Setting D-Pad all to Shield is not optimal for mashing because you are putting in the same input. When mashing, it's most optimal to put in different inputs. So spamming the Shield button is actually not a good idea. So actually, if Zackray really wanted to mash with D-Pad, he should make it something like Grab, Jump, and Shield since you can put in 3 inputs into the D-Pad.
Another benefit that may have been unintentional is that if you press both the shoulder and B button to jump, you get a short hop. So it kinda makes short hopping easier.
yea
My layout is X = Special, Y = Attack, A-B = Jump. Tap Jump = Off and C Stick = Tilt Stick.
yea
Making B and Y set to jump makes it immensely easier to short hop. You just have to use your thumb to press both buttons at the same time.
@@guessimlatetotheparty2923 sorry that is what I meant. I am used to the xbox layout lol. I use A and Y to jump.
I just use the controls that was in the 3ds version. B is jump, A is special, Y is attack, etc. It feels way more comfortable than the default.
What are x and triggers?
@@somedude1324 Left was grab and right was shield
If you change your controls and haven't done World of Light and grinded the Spirit Board (plus Summoning, etc.), it's a pretty good excuse to kill two birds with one stone.
Forty hours of that slog will commit the new scheme to muscle memory, and you will get all the spirits too.
A lot of the World of Light battle mechanics are strange, so it's usually bad for practicing Smash in general. However, for something as basic as (re)learning the control scheme, it's fine.
yea