That’s exactly part of his point, it isn’t even about left or right, separating babies from their mothers is just wrong. Morally wrong. There’s no humanity there. And taking a side on this is stupid.
Clueless Lawdamercy Ruthless Institutionalizing children and tell them they are unwanted, and cheer how you were the reason why they are orphans ... Right or wrong, I don’t see anything positive coming from this.
@@NamelessKing1597Yeah but I refuse to go around imagining facial hair options before judging the compatibility of one's voice with their faces... Apart from that I don't agree with your comment.
There are better ways though...fact is kids shouldnt be in cages. Not to mention, there are still children that have not been reunited with their deported parents.
That’s what is going on ! There! Concentration camps for children and adults... also, asking for asylum is not illegal, so no laws were broken to go to jail! This is trumps administration way of stoping legal immigration by people who are not white... trump and all his followers are racist and afraid to own that title
hector vazquez asylum speakers make themselves known and come through the ports of entry your just one of the sheep bleeting very loudly your clueless there are no concentration camps in America and to say that belittles the atrocities that actually occurred during the holocaust your disgusting and a moron if someone illegally sneaks into the country they should be immediately deported it is unfair for the thousands of people waiting for legal clearance into American idk how people like you stay so clueless and utter such stupidity without being called out
Joe Rogan, “And we wouldn’t be doing that to Canadians.” Sure, Joe. Try crossing the Canadian border with a child with no documentation. Shit gets real.
@@TheLocknload1 Um, yes. We could even call them juvenile detention centers. The juvenile justice system has been around since the 1800s. Women are also jailed separately from men.
My husband knows someone called Frank who he's obsessed with, he never stops referring to him everytime he thinks he's right about something. He says "quite frankley" constantly...ugh its like he measures things by its frankness.
Rayne SG a.k.a. inkyrayne so you presume all entering the country are trafficking kids? Why not do that with all adults you see with kids? That’s essentially what Trump is doing.
Creston Covington they commented on that as well. When talking about someone getting arrested for growing pot, their kids would be in foster care and the parent would rot in jail. They’re with you
just my 2 cents here. if an American citizen has a child with him or her and gets arrested, the child is separated from the parent on the spot. I am not agreeing with it but merely pointing out the consistency.
@Trustin Lewis Maybe because they have other family they go to during the duration of time their parents are in jail. Or, in some instance, the child are in danger from their own parents. The situation is quite hard to understand without content. But even if they were separated from their parents due to a crime their parents committed, they still have the option to see them or call them. They are never far away. But the situation of immigrants does not reflect this. No visitation, no phone calls, not even a letter. None of that is available because the systems misplaced them all. Parents don't know where their kids are, kids don't know where their parents are, and kids are in a strange situation. The situation of American kids being separated from their parents does not compare.
@Trustin Lewis I'm not proposing anything. Just answering your questions. Why don't you propose something more humane for the illegals? Oh wait, taking kids away because orphanages are better then where they were is the better solution, right? Wow, and somehow being a liberal sounds less insulting by the second. Maybe you should take a moment to reflect your words a little long. Unless you don't mind being indecent, then by all means, continue on.
@Trustin Lewis No, that is good enough. Nothing more needs to be done at the moment, thank you. That new thing that we do? Where we separated parents from their children? That was too much. I wouldn't mind a new way to stop illegal immigrants from coming in to the country, but make sure that its humane and sound.
@Trustin Lewis Right. Under Obama. And Congress, with all their anti Obama rhetoric, didn't catch wind of it until Trump forced it even further. The Republicans, with all their dislikes on their former president, didn't even bother to bring this to light to show the people what a real sham he was. Right, of course. Either you are fishing for more excuses, or you are becoming desperate to not find common ground on a more cohesive solution for this immigration problem. Either way, I need sleep and I have wasted enough time and energy to try and reason with you. Good Night. 😚
The issue with children being separated is pretty simple, actually: There are a number of people sending their children over the border, but aren't coming themselves. They literally pay someone else - sometimes an uncle, sometimes just some offering the service - to bring their children up here. To make matters even better, these people usually claim, "I'm their father/mother." This puts the US government in the dubious position of trying to find out just _who_ these kids are and who _their_ parents are. I mean yes, it's bad, but we're literally trying our best to make the best of a bad situation. Some of these 'couriers' aren't good people, and will set these kids up with modern slavery to gangs. So yeah, some kids are getting separated and not always correctly. That's the issue you face when people with no ID or with ID that you can't rely on. Seriously, what is the alternative?
Don't forget human trafficking is also a huge problem and part of the reason why we separate children from parents. I dont like that we have to do but I find myself asking the same question you did. What is the alternative? I cant stand it when people just shout that something needs to be changed but offer no solution to the problem.
@@El.Matamoros. Do you know how many of them end up being trafficked and forced into prostitution and other terrible things? You'd rather we just sit back and let that happen? Is that less 'cruel'?
@@insrtcowjoke You watch to much tv you can say the Same about everybody If you want kids in New York are also forced into prostitution and such the vast majority aren't y'all love to do that pick bad situations and use it as a excuse to be cruel and justify yourselfs.
@@insrtcowjoke I'd rather the immigration pathway was so that people didn't have to risk everything just to come here and be treated as second class citizens by racist,that's the less cruel option.
That's because under Obama, the separations only occurred under specific situations. With Trump, it doesn't matter the situation. If you come over illegally, you WILL be separated from your children. No exceptions.
Most people calling for a civil war hasn’t studied history. More accurately, the history of civil conflicts in our own country and the death toll involved.
@@PissDrunxVato And you along with it Dewey. What do you think a civil war is? 2 groups duking it out in an arena while you watch? The arena will be your home you imbecile.
@@nonusbusinissus5632 I was about to say the same thing. Also, if you don't pick a side, a side will pick you. Its a damned if you do, damned if you don't deal.
The real problem is there are known sex traffickers bringing children to sell into sex slavery, so its either separate kids from their parents until you can prove they are really their children or lock up sex traffickers with their victims until you can prove they are not really their children. This is one of the many problem with undocumented people coming into the country without identification.
@@TheIWaterI By that logic the laws against doing crack is an imaginary rule. Even animals have territories that they protect and defend, it's been that way for millions of years before we even evolved. How is that imaginary? Also see my comment above to see why this is actually the only rational way of handling the situation.
I think joe was being safe and sorta doin it jokingly but also serious. Like yeah let’s just make 100% sure no one catches shit and cover it up. You really think it’s that big a deal?
When American citizens break the law. They get there children away. Are we going to let kids go to prison. They should be with them if there going to a customs office tho and are being deported. They should be together tho
2 reasons: They take them away because it's difficult to control everybody especially in overcrowded facilities and if kids and adults are togheter you can expect pedophiles doing weird shit there. Remember that highly secured prisons with adults only have rapes etc. so from not-so-highly-secured ICE facility you might expect more of that stuff so that's why they are separated. Besides... it's parents fault. If they go through dangerous journey to get illegally to richer country it's totally their fault if their children are taken away from them. They could do it legally and learn english and get legal job in better country so their kids will be safe but nope... Instead they do criminal acts so they are criminals and criminals are taken away from children.
Jamie pull that American kid from the mother she broke the law.. oh wait we have been doing that for years! Where is the outrage for our citizens that this happens to.
@e-man Im implying that if you want to play charity with your country's resources and everyone's taxes, its pretty much your first in the line duty to load your own place with them and make sure they have a better life. So are you doing that? If not, why, and what makes you think that you can even risk opening your mouth about this topic?
I agree with you. But the facilities at which a kid is put at the border are disgusting, they should be better. Mr. Obama should have spent some more during his administration at building these facilities.
@nihilismful when a family comes through a legal port of entry they are not separated. However if they illegally cross the border they are committing a crime and are separated because the laws were written to do so.
If a us citizen breaks the law, what happens? They are arrested for let's say trespassing. Are they separated from their kids? The answer is yes. Why should someone who isn't even a citizen have more rights here than a citizen? Makes perfect sense right?
Ricky Kendrick that’s a shit analogy...not even the to the same degree of separation or level of detainment or time that could possibly be served if any at all by someone who trespassed given your example they are not comparable . There are no guidelines other than the sixth amendment set out which aren’t being followed
Someone else without the full picture. This was started under 44's administration. It only became an issue under 45's because MSM tries to make everything his fault. The reason they do it is because many many of the people with children are NOT their kids! They were kidnapped from their parents and used as a tool to get into the US. Most if not all of the kids taken will not say anything tell the person that took them is away from them. Something else I'm sure you're not aware of is 4 out of 5 girls that cross the border are rapped! I'm all for people coming here the right way! Open your eyes and think for yourself!
No, because it is common in the US to lose your kids after getting into problems with the law. There is only three options if you want the separation to end. 1) incarcerate both the parents and also the child 2) deport both parents and child at once 3) let the parents get away with committing a crime and let them go into US soil. A right that not even US citizens can appreciate.
The line isnt imaginary Joe, it's a border for our country, and all countries have borders and none of them want massive illegal entry. Every country has laws, they all enforce their laws. Why is our country or people considered bad when we want the laws we have established followed?
@Arwyn not by ice by other immigrants That's why we shouldn't have open borders just saying And more funding btw Democrats aren't helping at all But while everyone is calling trump racist etc he just won the wall won the next election and stopped almost all asylum seekers
@Anthony Vega But they’re still flocking to this country. Does that make sense to you? We don’t just go harm people for the hell of it. Open your eyes man.
@@kevinbeazy sir ...not just that ..but the gangs that were created here instead of sending to central America they should just kill every one of them ..is like letting a killer go loose ..central was more peaceful..untill gangs and dirty government sigh by the u.s.a governs there ..is like blaming China for jobs when is corporate company sending jobs over there save million and billions...
People should focus on fixing the immigration system by helping people come legally while trying to make it faster and more accessible to go through the process. The problem is how you come in. No one gets a pass, we are a nation of rules. That being said, stop allowing illegal immigration and push for more legal immigration
Push for neither. Why provide care for foreigners, who's ancestors contributed nothing to the nation, when your countrymen starve in the thousands on the streets?
@@ramonlopez5557how? If I illegally went into Mexico I'd be arrested and put in a Mexican prison. go to any other country on the planet and cross a border illegally and see what happens. every country has laws and rules and the fact that people like you believe that the ones in america don't apply is ridiculous. you guys are the type of people to get mad about a white women from America going to another country and acting as if she owns it but you're completely ok with people coming into our home and fucking things up. I get why these people want to come over here. I get it. my brother in law was illegal but it's not about racism or bigotry. we can't even properly take care of the citizens we have now but we are gonna take care of citizens from another country? it don't make sense.
Think about it this way Joe: If you or I commit a crime deemed worthy of prison. Would you not be separated from your kids? "I dont care if its illegal or not" is what I'm referring to. And if that is immoral, why do parents get separated from their children, as citizens, when incarcerated? It's not just forced on immigration, is the point I'm trying to make.
Typically they have some form of identification, or they look like a family unit, or they look similar....... same way you can tell families at the airport
J Code no that isn’t the official reason. In fact many children have been taken away from their parents and then turned over to child traffickers. The government can’t find many children. There is no excuse for any of that.
Fuck Obama fuck Trump America has some serious nerve to better a president over another. You cant justify locking up and dehumanizing children. Fuck you
@@speak-easyconversations1393 I can justify it. I am not putting up with burdensome economic migrants that come to my country to get whatever the hell they can. A country without borders is not a sovereign nation. Don't want your kids locked up? Then don't drag them here! That is simple. I catch you in my house uninvited expect the best outcome is for your sad ass to get locked up.
@@1pcfred you mean the burdensome people that pay taxes, do their job and try to not break the law because cops would deport them? Or do you mean the burdensome folk who evade paying their taxes to keep their millions while actively working to get exempt of paying them and be left alone to plunder people and natural resources with no interest or care about consequences others have to suffer? Gee, dude, your opinion is so compelling...
American citizens who commit a crime are sent to jail. If they have children the kids don't go with them, the are then, say it with me Joe, "separated".
Could you try to empathize with these people and the places they come from? Crossing a border is not the same type of crime as say commiting a robbery or assault. I think you are too comfortable with the idea of others suffering in their lives just so that your comfort bubble is kept intact. You can't let them all in or else there'd be a massive imbalance in migration, but to just be okay with separating families from their children is just selfish.
Because you're children are stripped away from you and put into awful government facilities, in which the parents dont know where their kids are and vice versa. Going to jail for a crime theres processing, phone calls, visitation. As well as the fact that crossing a border is like a misdemeanor
@@SirColonelVonBurger it's a misdemeanor the first time. Felony after deportation. I guess I'll do a road and doesn't realize that nearly half of it parents coming into this country with children are not related to the kid. But hey nobody should be separated.
@@Kashmirknight That's assuming they are actually the parents and not child trafficking. So what should you do to protect the kids. Separate them from the adults claiming to be parents and investigate. Even if they are proven to be the parents families can't be detained together thanks to the 1997 Flores settlement and releasing is not a solution cause very few report to immigration court. At the end of the day its a simple solution, don't risk your child's life violating U.S. law.
@@edmartin5616 couldn't agree more! There is one way your proven 100% not to be separated from your child. Don't take them to the US border to enter the country illegally.
@@Kashmirknight It's also the only way to guarantee your child isn't killed from disease, exposure, dehydration, drowning, Mexican gang violence, and any other hazards of illegal border crossings. Matter of fact, any parent in the U.S. that forces their child to endure hazards similar to crossing the border while committing a crime would be considered negligent and have their children taken away.
Dylan Kratz Only reason for the government to step in and take your child away is if you’re some crackhead who cant take care of or puts their child in danger continuously. Government doesn’t juts take them for no reason and if the government decides to take your children away then you must of committed a serious crime. It really is just benefits the children and keep them away from irresponsible parents but some people dont see it that way.
@@youngohgee1271 If an American goes to jail for a crime they are taken away from their children, so why shouldn't the same go for if Mexicans break the law...there no better than an American citizens! Do you think a judge gives a rats ass if a white or black man spends life in prison, there families can cry all they want its just too bad for the kids but the way it is. So if a Mexican breaks the law they know whats going to happen, it is there decision to break the law not ours! I hate t see anyone's kid get taken from them, but if they break the laws (Mexicans,Whites.Blacks), its there decision so its there fault! Joe Rogan is a moron when it comes to this!
NASA your not helping this argument kid. Joe needed to do his research it’s clear he didn’t he’s just rolling with his feeling just like the rest of em, but it’s immensely more difficult to persuade someone offended than someone you kept level headed. I live in Texas and there is a crisis on our border in child trafficking/sex trafficking that’s why children get separated from family units
NASA IS GOD! Mom jokes and emojis....that’s childish in manner which is more the point I was making, didn’t help your case. But at least you don’t let your emotions rule your decision. I’ll take a rude mf over a dumb mf that talks nice, as long as he/she bases their views on facts. ie why I voted for Pres. Trump.
@@katesteventon5296 Because no citizen has the right to drag people out of a country and if the government needs to intervene then there has to be an arrest and trial involved. It's a dangerous thing to give any government the authority to handle a human being (especially physically) without using the laws set in place. I'm not American, but I believe your Constitution says something about this? Look I know it brings up a lot of anger among your people, but once we start taking away human rights, regardless of citizenship, we go down a dark road in human history. I will also add that this is not a new phenomenon in history and especially not in current history. The world is experiencing the worst refugee crisis since WWII. People are seeking asylum across the globe
@Julie I’m not American actually , so I have no dog in this fight. However personally if I were to enter the country illegally and was discovered working, I would not see it as a violation of my human rights at all to be detained briefly without arrest and sent back home. In fact, I would much prefer that to a lengthy incarnation and criminal trial. Twenty years ago I lived and worked illegally in Israel and I got deported just like that. I was held at the airport for a day, and then I was sent home on the next available flight. I didn’t like it at the time, but on reflection it was a speedy and humane process.
I understand both of your points. Mine was that the argument for not breaking up families even though a law was broken is ludicrous because it happens every single day to actual citizens of this country. What's good for us needs to be good for them, isn't that one of the reasons for coming here? To enjoy our freedoms and prosperity? Well laws are part of coming here.
FYI, the separation of children from parents from their kids has been going on for years, and yes even during the Obama administration. The main reason is they cannot put a child with an adult while in confinement. If we did then you would be hearing cases about children getting abused while under US care? As with the majority of these issues the solution isn't simple and an effective solution hasn't been done with any previous administration! Our politicians have never really tried to fix it and never will!
The scary part is that their very parents see them as passports and I can’t tell you how many times I’ve seen where they just hand over their infant to strangers who need a kid to go to border to be let in. Another instance was an 11 year old girl who border patrol asked where she was going then asked when is the last time you saw your parents? 11 years she answers. Since my birth. Doesn’t sound right.
Joe us talking out of his ass about that. I noticed he didn’t offer the solution to parents and kids coming across the border. Should we just pay for their room at the Hilton while they await their court date?
The people in the DEA on average aren’t profiting from the drug war. The majority of law enforcement has merely been tricked into believing that prohibition is moral, while a few in power make the real big bucks
If I remember correctly, there’s a video of Bill Clinton on the same stance of immigration that Obama was talking about. In that same video, his supporters cheered and applauded him. As Joe and Dakota Meyer said, we’re a weird society.
idk i think he made great points, and duncan is one of my favorite guests. at the end when hes talking about the obama video, he literally blew my mind, not about that spcific video cuz i dont care lol. but about the fact that they could attempt to rewrite history by reposting old clips with altered dialog dubbed over it
Um... some people having some short term memory loss... Dems used to be big anti immigration folks and Reps liked cheap labor. They have switched now because Dems like the votes and Reps dislike. Duh...
Tyler GERMANOWICZ nobody gives a shit whether it’s Dems or Reps looking people in cages and tearing their children away from them. asylum seekers have already DIED in border patrol custody, theyre video evidence of the horrid conditions, and for some reason only trump supporters seem to think that’s okay.
same. this was a really bad interview. lol. "people are living in a terrible world" "they go on twitter and..." wtf?! if you are scared on twitter, you are either fucked up, or fucking up. there is nothing THAT fucking bad here. not for the citizens, anyway. maybe 1%, but only because everyone is trying to steal their shit daily.
Joe we have a few options. we can do what obama did and let them in while they wait for a hearing on getting deported, and 40% didn't even show up at court. we can send them back with no hearing, which i believe is unconstitutional. we can put the kids and the parents in detention centers together, which the court ruled in 2016 was illegal. or we could put the kids in places that provide them food, games, and education while the parents wait on their ruling.
When the parent of a child goes to jail, does the child come with the parent? How do you determine if the child is that of the parents if they come without papers? Of course it isn't pleasant to separate parents and children, but it may be necessary to preserve the safety of the children by ensuring they are properly documented...
On the right side I don’t know anyone who says, ripping kids from parents-they shouldn’t have broken the law. It’s about trafficking and adults faking documentation or no documentation proving parental rights.
But they're not going to prison. They're not Americans and haven't been convicted of a federal crime, separating them from their children is far worse both legally and ethically
@@shamrock141 crossing the border illegally IS a crime no matter what AOC wants to cram down people's throats any country that isnt completly 3rd world and in the sticks has border control and policy's.. I don't see why america should be the only country with it's doors wide tf open for ANYONE to come in. if you try to rush the borders of any other country way worse shit will happen to you then your kid being taken away trust and believe that. And exactly THEY AREN'T americans so if a american can be separated from their kids for breaking the law what makes you think someone in america ILLEGALLY should have a separate special privilege? And if you want to bring in different immigrants that's at least a argument.get some people from zimbabwe and kuwait ect.ect. we shouldn't just be letting in people from Cuba and mexico by the hundreds of thousands if not millions just because they have a geological advantage! We need border control to say we don't is asking for trouble
We're up shit creek collectively as a country, but this is absolutely no way in hell that there will be another civil war. Its literally impossible from a logistical point of view.
@@hyypersonic man theres so much stuff thats going on that seems like if people sat down and just thought it through for a minute we would be in such a better place but for some reason people can't handle that
I heard the separation was because they couldn't prove it was there own kid. They were trying to prevent kidnapped kids that were going to be used for child slavery.
Agreed %100, And the kids on the border, they did not even belong to the people who claimed ownership. Thoughs people were cartel members using kids to smuggle drugs, guns, and even the kids themselves
If you get arrested you have a right to an attorney and due process and would likely get to go home, sleep in your bed, and be with your family. Not saying you have to set them free into Texas or wherever but spare me that we're doing anything remotely humane, reasonable, or rational. Last I saw it was 26 kids have actually died in our detention - that's a disgrace.
It is not illegal to seek asylum under international law, point one. Point two the refugee convention refers to illegal manner of entry only to stipulate that such entry is not grounds for punishment. Point three therefore it is false equivalence to equate people seeking asylum with actual criminals as justifying the separation of families. A child cannot follow a criminal into jail, but a person seeking asylum has by definition not committed a crime under international or US law - it is at worst a civil violation which the refugee convention (that the US is signatory to) stipulates must not be punished.
@Jay Day Pharmaceutical companies don’t need poppies anymore. That argument doesn’t work anymore. Put your tinfoil hat on and see what else you can come up with.
Nathan Bracey whose talking about serving your country good for u man ibet it felt good killing inocente people just like cartels they are a peace of shit don’t support them so what a bout my profile pic with a gun it’s a legal register weapon u guys have guns 2 and no one says shit 🇲🇽🇲🇽 American ain’t white land it’s made of all country’s together
Ceasar Nunez and the law was changed years ago to require the kids kept with the parents which creates a situation in which either the children are detained with the parents to uphold the law or they are released with the adults who would be given a free pass on breaking our immigration laws.
What you really mean is that he disagrees with something you believe and you are having a conflict about it because you like the podcast. He hasn't changed at all.
This is one of the best rogan podcast segments I've ever watched. Thank you, Joe, for sticking up for immigrant families and the atrocities we have somehow voted to bestow on these poor, desperate people. Also, thank you to, ... ummm..... the other guy (famous famous comedian) for your incredible words on tendencies and how LSD opened your mind to be able to see more "big-picture." I 100% agree with all of this and hope more people see this vid.
We didn’t really vote for these atrocities. Obama deported more people than trump and began the separating kids and putting them into cages process. Obama didn’t run on being hard on immigration. Biden didn’t run on being hard on immigration but if he’s anything like Obama he’ll continue and probably expand these processes. The difference is the media didn’t highlight these practices under obama and they won’t do it under Biden. Most people that vote democrat think they’re voting against these practices not for it
Thank you for showing that you haven't researched the topic and your views are based on pure emotion. Did your emotions tell you to ignore the fact that cartels exist? Did your emotions tell you to ignore the fact that human trafficking is a serious problem at the southern border? I also like how people like you never give any solution to the problem. Your emotions tell you its bad so that means its bad and needs to stop. Yet you offer no alternative.
@@inverse8584 but have you ever tried dmt? U might think about it differently if u tried dmt. U just might. I just might drool on yourself and also think differently
Not true, they're only taken away when a crime has been comitted and they are found guilty of said crime. I work for CPS in Lexington KY. We don't take kids away unless it's court ordered. Far as I know no court has ordered these immigrants to have their children taken.
Dude the problem is we don't confront these politicians in public anymore, if anything we were more critical of our leaders in the past than the present! We used to have more access to them in the past also they are becoming more and more sheltered from the public. They have been sheltered from the public so much so that they have lost the ability to understand the needs of our people.
I work in public safety near the border. Over 1/3 of the kids are not even children of these adults. People have learned that dragging a child across the border is an E-ticket into the country. We even have people that live near the border that take their kids across the line to "rent" their children out people wanting to cross. It's absolutely disgusting. Speaking of disgusting let's not even go into the details about what happens to children that are being brought across under false pretenses. Shall we just give them all apartments and hope these kids aren't trafficked by the people posing as parents? On that note, are we giving the children of parents arrested bunk beds in prison because we don't want to separate them? Why not? It's because these kids are put in grave danger being put in the mix with adults. It's fun for Hollywood and politicians to express outrage from their gated communities, but that isn't the reality of what is happening on the ground.
I was brought here when I 2 and a half if they sent me back I'm dead lol 😂 keep inspiring joe you the best shout out from Georgia. Born in mexico raised in Georgia.
He'll never seen this but I have proof I got here on the 4th of july. When we were about to cross I was crying and the coyote told me that if I stay quiet he will buy me a bag of Lay's when we got to the other side and when my parents told me I stay quiet and when we got to the other side I got the bag of Lay's. 😂
Fix the laws so this doesn't happen. Come through a port of entry so this doesn't happen. Don't commit crime so you keep your kids. So many criminals lose their kids but they made the choice not the government. The government absolutely needs to change the laws so this insanity can end. I think we need a faster court process and the ability to send people home if we decline their entry
Sorry to say this but the government didn't make the parents bring/send the children to the US. The government didn't make the parents/kids walk across the border illegally. I blame the parents not the government. I didn't blame Obama's administration when he did the same thing or worse and I don't blame Trump's either. I do blame the parents. Liberals think this is a new problem. It's tragic but it's definitely not new. Personally I would like to see the borders closed until we take care of everyone here first. I lived in some of the poorest parts of this country. It's not flowers and rainbows for everyone already in the US. Go visit Chicago or Seattle and tell me we should be taking on more charity cases
ahhhhh 2018, when all we had to worry about was a civil war
idk if this aged well for a month in 2020 :P
What civil war ? The fuck
@Literally Hitler i thought u were dead
More prevalent today
17k subscribers without any video challenge Nah man he’s chillin in Brazil with big booty binches
Joe says something slightly Left leaning and the dislikes soar.
That’s exactly part of his point, it isn’t even about left or right, separating babies from their mothers is just wrong. Morally wrong. There’s no humanity there.
And taking a side on this is stupid.
Is that why the dislikes are so high? Because he said it's wrong to steal and cage children? WTF!
Harry Ortiz it’s wrong but they’re not even separating them lol just deport em both
Clueless Lawdamercy Ruthless Institutionalizing children and tell them they are unwanted, and cheer how you were the reason why they are orphans ... Right or wrong, I don’t see anything positive coming from this.
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I thinks using your kid as a leverage and a means to an end is much sicker. So what, deport them both, or find that kid a normal family?
The guy with the beard has a voice that doesn't fit with his face at all..
If you imagine him without a beard it does
@@NamelessKing1597Yeah but I refuse to go around imagining facial hair options before judging the compatibility of one's voice with their faces...
Apart from that I don't agree with your comment.
@@NordicWalter why are you such a dick? He was making an observation just like you, kid.
@@NordicWalter you sound intolerable
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Joe Rogan you're invited to the carne asada my friend
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@@CykelSierra It is asada. 🤦♂️
Shut up
Duncan sounds like Steve-o if he never did drugs
And the funny part is this guy sounds like he took a lot of drugs
I thought steve o was talking until i actually looked at the video
I never noticed until you said something. Now I can’t stop noticing when he talks
Sounds like T J Miller
He says in this very video that he did lsd at 16 lol
You can't put children in jails with adults when you don't even know who they are .
There are better ways though...fact is kids shouldnt be in cages. Not to mention, there are still children that have not been reunited with their deported parents.
Ivan Susović does kids end up in cages in concentration camps ! So you have adults in jail and their kids in jail but separated !
@@hectorvaz1402 google Manjača and tell me that is what is going on US border ?
That’s what is going on ! There!
Concentration camps for children and adults... also, asking for asylum is not illegal, so no laws were broken to go to jail! This is trumps administration way of stoping legal immigration by people who are not white... trump and all his followers are racist and afraid to own that title
hector vazquez asylum speakers make themselves known and come through the ports of entry your just one of the sheep bleeting very loudly your clueless there are no concentration camps in America and to say that belittles the atrocities that actually occurred during the holocaust your disgusting and a moron if someone illegally sneaks into the country they should be immediately deported it is unfair for the thousands of people waiting for legal clearance into American idk how people like you stay so clueless and utter such stupidity without being called out
That guy never stopped taking LSD 😂😂😂
he has not, and is very open about it.
@@michaelmccaffery2684 in this vid he said he didn't
Joe Rogan, “And we wouldn’t be doing that to Canadians.” Sure, Joe. Try crossing the Canadian border with a child with no documentation. Shit gets real.
Lol think half of everyone reacted before finishing the video.
Real fast .....
Definitely not gonna be getting a room together either
Especially in the same numbers coming through southern border.
Caleb Solis it’s not nonsense
Canadian border patrol are even worse somewhat. They mean business!
Joe "send kids to jail with their parents" Rogan.
Mosquito E I know right? God, he was just way foul on that one...
So send kids all alone to a different jail ?
@@TheLocknload1 Um, yes. We could even call them juvenile detention centers. The juvenile justice system has been around since the 1800s. Women are also jailed separately from men.
@@neatomosque or we can send them all back and not cover the cost of housing them
Gottem
Take a shot for every time Duncan Trussel says, "tendency” or "like”
I'm hammered
@@t.o.mcconnell4001 I’m dead
My husband knows someone called Frank who he's obsessed with, he never stops referring to him everytime he thinks he's right about something. He says "quite frankley" constantly...ugh its like he measures things by its frankness.
Children are separated from the adult jail to protect kids
@MaskedCrusader Part Deux Yeah cheif it happening because how are we gonna pay for that?
That was the Obama policy. Trump is doing this even to people who haven’t committed crimes
Rayne SG a.k.a. inkyrayne so you presume all entering the country are trafficking kids? Why not do that with all adults you see with kids? That’s essentially what Trump is doing.
@MaskedCrusader Part Deux wtf is holland?
MaskedCrusader Part Deux we don’t care that much kid
Don't agree, don't break up families send em all back across the border together...
That's how the Native Americans feel about white people
@@itsbritneytwitch2774 well the native Americans weren't strong enough to win.
@@tylerallgeier3746 that's cool and all but I didn't remember asking you anything.
@@itsbritneytwitch2774 that's the thing about free will, I can say anything I want.
@@itsbritneytwitch2774 Funny I didn't see anyone asking you for anything either
So when US citizens get arrested for illegal activity we dont get our kids taken from us? Where the hell do you live?
Creston Covington they commented on that as well. When talking about someone getting arrested for growing pot, their kids would be in foster care and the parent would rot in jail. They’re with you
just my 2 cents here. if an American citizen has a child with him or her and gets arrested, the child is separated from the parent on the spot.
I am not agreeing with it but merely pointing out the consistency.
@Trustin Lewis Maybe because they have other family they go to during the duration of time their parents are in jail. Or, in some instance, the child are in danger from their own parents. The situation is quite hard to understand without content. But even if they were separated from their parents due to a crime their parents committed, they still have the option to see them or call them. They are never far away.
But the situation of immigrants does not reflect this. No visitation, no phone calls, not even a letter. None of that is available because the systems misplaced them all. Parents don't know where their kids are, kids don't know where their parents are, and kids are in a strange situation. The situation of American kids being separated from their parents does not compare.
@Trustin Lewis I'm not proposing anything. Just answering your questions. Why don't you propose something more humane for the illegals? Oh wait, taking kids away because orphanages are better then where they were is the better solution, right? Wow, and somehow being a liberal sounds less insulting by the second. Maybe you should take a moment to reflect your words a little long. Unless you don't mind being indecent, then by all means, continue on.
@Trustin Lewis No, that is good enough. Nothing more needs to be done at the moment, thank you. That new thing that we do? Where we separated parents from their children? That was too much. I wouldn't mind a new way to stop illegal immigrants from coming in to the country, but make sure that its humane and sound.
@Trustin Lewis Right. Under Obama. And Congress, with all their anti Obama rhetoric, didn't catch wind of it until Trump forced it even further. The Republicans, with all their dislikes on their former president, didn't even bother to bring this to light to show the people what a real sham he was. Right, of course.
Either you are fishing for more excuses, or you are becoming desperate to not find common ground on a more cohesive solution for this immigration problem. Either way, I need sleep and I have wasted enough time and energy to try and reason with you. Good Night. 😚
Im in the middle of this argument and i love this connection that i didnt see
The issue with children being separated is pretty simple, actually:
There are a number of people sending their children over the border, but aren't coming themselves. They literally pay someone else - sometimes an uncle, sometimes just some offering the service - to bring their children up here. To make matters even better, these people usually claim, "I'm their father/mother."
This puts the US government in the dubious position of trying to find out just _who_ these kids are and who _their_ parents are. I mean yes, it's bad, but we're literally trying our best to make the best of a bad situation. Some of these 'couriers' aren't good people, and will set these kids up with modern slavery to gangs.
So yeah, some kids are getting separated and not always correctly. That's the issue you face when people with no ID or with ID that you can't rely on.
Seriously, what is the alternative?
Don't forget human trafficking is also a huge problem and part of the reason why we separate children from parents. I dont like that we have to do but I find myself asking the same question you did. What is the alternative? I cant stand it when people just shout that something needs to be changed but offer no solution to the problem.
It shouldn't even be a option y'all have never even met any of these kids y'all are just cruel.
@@El.Matamoros. Do you know how many of them end up being trafficked and forced into prostitution and other terrible things? You'd rather we just sit back and let that happen? Is that less 'cruel'?
@@insrtcowjoke You watch to much tv you can say the Same about everybody If you want kids in New York are also forced into prostitution and such the vast majority aren't y'all love to do that pick bad situations and use it as a excuse to be cruel and justify yourselfs.
@@insrtcowjoke I'd rather the immigration pathway was so that people didn't have to risk everything just to come here and be treated as second class citizens by racist,that's the less cruel option.
joe “you would never do that, thats illegal”.
also joe “Takes Illegal substances all the time.
I think he was being sarcastic
Hugh Quigley His dmt consumption is a victimless crime. Mind ya bizz
All the time? You dont do psychedelics “all the time” and plus weed is legal there
Isn't weed legal in California tho?
It’s illegal to kill yourself. Because it’s destruction of government property.
I feel flattered as a Canadian, thank you Joe.
Right!?
Yeah. I’m a Canadian, but I’m black. Joe thinks my son has blonde hair and blue eyes.
kek
@@leay4 don't like Canada?
Wait since when do Asian descendants have blonde hair and blue eyes???
They called Obama the Deporter and chief and yet we didn't hear about the shit we hear now
Lexx S The separation of children from family was originated under his administration and no, we didn’t hear the same thing from the Left.
He mostly deported criminals
@Carmine DAuria-Gupta So does Trump. Why do you think they call it "illegal" immigration?
It was mostly cause Obama was hush about while trump is out in the open.
That's because under Obama, the separations only occurred under specific situations. With Trump, it doesn't matter the situation. If you come over illegally, you WILL be separated from your children. No exceptions.
Most people calling for a civil war hasn’t studied history. More accurately, the history of civil conflicts in our own country and the death toll involved.
Contrasting The Void let them fight, let the idiots kill each other off
@@PissDrunxVato That's not the issue, the death toll includes collateral damage
@@PissDrunxVato And you along with it Dewey. What do you think a civil war is? 2 groups duking it out in an arena while you watch?
The arena will be your home you imbecile.
@@nonusbusinissus5632 I was about to say the same thing. Also, if you don't pick a side, a side will pick you. Its a damned if you do, damned if you don't deal.
@Saki Maro you don't know what a civil war is do you? What the words mean?
My only disagreement is on the child separation thing when an American breaks the law he’s separated from his kids in prison
Liberal mind set, I don't want to be separated from my kids if I go to jail.
there crossing a imaginary line not doing fucking crack
The real problem is there are known sex traffickers bringing children to sell into sex slavery, so its either separate kids from their parents until you can prove they are really their children or lock up sex traffickers with their victims until you can prove they are not really their children. This is one of the many problem with undocumented people coming into the country without identification.
@@TheIWaterI By that logic the laws against doing crack is an imaginary rule. Even animals have territories that they protect and defend, it's been that way for millions of years before we even evolved. How is that imaginary? Also see my comment above to see why this is actually the only rational way of handling the situation.
michael vigil we are the same species?? I’m done
12:37 Joe coming in clutch to save his bro out
Right 😂 I thought I was the only that caught what Joe was doing there lol
You guys are dumb if you think the gov is gonna go after this guy for lighting a dollar bill when he was 18.
I think joe was being safe and sorta doin it jokingly but also serious. Like yeah let’s just make 100% sure no one catches shit and cover it up. You really think it’s that big a deal?
I smoked weed in high school in a small town. I got caught an was incarcerated for 6 months. Away from my parents.
Me too! They sent me to boot camp in Milledgeville Georgia, then to a group home.... My parents were far far away
@@nohedidnt9402 sorry guys, i'm from GA and feel your pain. many cities have decriminalized recently, ironically
sorry to hear that brother. hopefully we get weed legalized soon, because that’s ridiculous.
The fuck, 6 months for that?
Yeah GA fucking sucks on Mary Jane laws but atleast we got CBD stuff now and we are slowly getting decriminalized
When American citizens break the law. They get there children away. Are we going to let kids go to prison. They should be with them if there going to a customs office tho and are being deported. They should be together tho
2 reasons: They take them away because it's difficult to control everybody especially in overcrowded facilities and if kids and adults are togheter you can expect pedophiles doing weird shit there.
Remember that highly secured prisons with adults only have rapes etc. so from not-so-highly-secured ICE facility you might expect more of that stuff so that's why they are separated.
Besides... it's parents fault. If they go through dangerous journey to get illegally to richer country it's totally their fault if their children are taken away from them. They could do it legally and learn english and get legal job in better country so their kids will be safe but nope... Instead they do criminal acts so they are criminals and criminals are taken away from children.
TheLindeN why do latinos have the lowest naturalization rate.?
@@MegaMapper yeah it's their fault for crossing that imaginary line into your cults territory lol
Exactly.
@@benjamingrezik373 there's a fence there it's not imaginary
If you break the law as a citizen you go to jail and get separated from your kids.
x534n01 💯 there just mad libs
But they can murder babies
Exactly
Imagine breaking the law as a citizen and they snatch you and your kid and put you in different cages... your kid did nothing, but now he’s in a cage?
@@ThiagoRodrigues-up4fo a cage? Fucking drama queen. They aren't kept in cages.
Jamie pull that American kid from the mother she broke the law.. oh wait we have been doing that for years! Where is the outrage for our citizens that this happens to.
Aqua Green ORAganics great false equivalence there
@e-man Remind me. How many rants are staying at your place?
@e-man Im implying that if you want to play charity with your country's resources and everyone's taxes, its pretty much your first in the line duty to load your own place with them and make sure they have a better life.
So are you doing that?
If not, why, and what makes you think that you can even risk opening your mouth about this topic?
I agree with you. But the facilities at which a kid is put at the border are disgusting, they should be better.
Mr. Obama should have spent some more during his administration at building these facilities.
@e-man Okay then allow all the Indians that are dying of starvation. We have a billion people who are ready to enter America.
This tendency he is talking about is why we are supposed to have small local government. And our federal government is supposed to be way smaller.
but it can’t be smaller because we are too overpopulated
@@publicplans5696 Well It must be broken into smaller countries so the people are closer to the power.
Public Plans And we want other people to do everything for us. We got what we asked for.
Public Plans That’s what the states were meant for. Thus the 10th Amendment was passed.
@@publicplans5696 Has nothing to do with population
Americans families are separated everyday. Why cant we separate immigrant families?
@nihilismful when a family comes through a legal port of entry they are not separated. However if they illegally cross the border they are committing a crime and are separated because the laws were written to do so.
@nihilismful we separate american families because we do not jail an entire family for the crimes of one of its members.
If a us citizen breaks the law, what happens? They are arrested for let's say trespassing. Are they separated from their kids? The answer is yes. Why should someone who isn't even a citizen have more rights here than a citizen?
Makes perfect sense right?
Ricky Kendrick that’s a shit analogy...not even the to the same degree of separation or level of detainment or time that could possibly be served if any at all by someone who trespassed given your example they are not comparable . There are no guidelines other than the sixth amendment set out which aren’t being followed
@@moaazkhalil1028 you're a dumbass.
Joe is showing EMPATHY, such a strange concept these days apparently
Says the libtard
@@Sockpoppet those who are evil hate empathy
I don't get the dislikes, what Joe said makes a lot of sense.
Someone else without the full picture. This was started under 44's administration. It only became an issue under 45's because MSM tries to make everything his fault. The reason they do it is because many many of the people with children are NOT their kids! They were kidnapped from their parents and used as a tool to get into the US. Most if not all of the kids taken will not say anything tell the person that took them is away from them. Something else I'm sure you're not aware of is 4 out of 5 girls that cross the border are rapped! I'm all for people coming here the right way! Open your eyes and think for yourself!
@@constantinvaldor1498 I swear people take Joe's word as law LMAO They probably get their news from social media
@@supa4ys843 I like Joe but he's so misinformed on so many topics.
No, because it is common in the US to lose your kids after getting into problems with the law. There is only three options if you want the separation to end.
1) incarcerate both the parents and also the child
2) deport both parents and child at once
3) let the parents get away with committing a crime and let them go into US soil. A right that not even US citizens can appreciate.
It doesn't make sense at all. Something like 80% of the children crossing the border with a "parent" are victims of child trafficking.
The line isnt imaginary Joe, it's a border for our country, and all countries have borders and none of them want massive illegal entry. Every country has laws, they all enforce their laws. Why is our country or people considered bad when we want the laws we have established followed?
They don't know that the kids belong to those parents
But they also seperate Americans from parents if they break the law
@Arwyn not by ice by other immigrants
That's why we shouldn't have open borders just saying
And more funding btw Democrats aren't helping at all
But while everyone is calling trump racist etc he just won the wall won the next election and stopped almost all asylum seekers
Illegal coup what do you expect...american doing harm to hundreds of millions around the world..
@Anthony Vega But they’re still flocking to this country. Does that make sense to you? We don’t just go harm people for the hell of it. Open your eyes man.
@@kevinbeazy sir ...not just that ..but the gangs that were created here instead of sending to central America they should just kill every one of them ..is like letting a killer go loose ..central was more peaceful..untill gangs and dirty government sigh by the u.s.a governs there ..is like blaming China for jobs when is corporate company sending jobs over there save million and billions...
People should focus on fixing the immigration system by helping people come legally while trying to make it faster and more accessible to go through the process. The problem is how you come in. No one gets a pass, we are a nation of rules. That being said, stop allowing illegal immigration and push for more legal immigration
Push for neither. Why provide care for foreigners, who's ancestors contributed nothing to the nation, when your countrymen starve in the thousands on the streets?
@@mzs5454 legit. We're full
You guys are so funny
Like spoiled little kids who don't want to share they're brainwashed by right wing media.
@@ramonlopez5557how? If I illegally went into Mexico I'd be arrested and put in a Mexican prison. go to any other country on the planet and cross a border illegally and see what happens. every country has laws and rules and the fact that people like you believe that the ones in america don't apply is ridiculous. you guys are the type of people to get mad about a white women from America going to another country and acting as if she owns it but you're completely ok with people coming into our home and fucking things up. I get why these people want to come over here. I get it. my brother in law was illegal but it's not about racism or bigotry. we can't even properly take care of the citizens we have now but we are gonna take care of citizens from another country? it don't make sense.
I thought this said "Joe Rogan Rants About Imagination"
close enough
for reals
Same haha
dyslexia affects millions
It does
With trashed IDs, we can't risk keeping children with human traffickers.
Think about it this way Joe:
If you or I commit a crime deemed worthy of prison. Would you not be separated from your kids? "I dont care if its illegal or not" is what I'm referring to. And if that is immoral, why do parents get separated from their children, as citizens, when incarcerated? It's not just forced on immigration, is the point I'm trying to make.
Everybody assumes that these children belong to the adults that accompany them. How the hell can anyone tell?
Typically they have some form of identification, or they look like a family unit, or they look similar....... same way you can tell families at the airport
You're missing the point dumbass !
Isael Bateman typically? No they fuckin don’t.
Recent polls have shown that majority of the kids aren’t related to the “parents” in any way. It’s child trafficking
I thought kids were separated because of the possibility of child sex trafficking.
well i would assume so.*
J Code no that isn’t the official reason. In fact many children have been taken away from their parents and then turned over to child traffickers. The government can’t find many children. There is no excuse for any of that.
They're separated because of a law done during Clinton's administration. Children don't go to jail, adults do. That's why they're separated.
They're separated because that's what happens in detention.
Why did no one care when Obama did the same.
Fuck Obama fuck Trump America has some serious nerve to better a president over another. You cant justify locking up and dehumanizing children. Fuck you
I don’t care who done it in the past. Stop fucking doing it.
Ps. Are you sure Obama really introduces it?
@@speak-easyconversations1393 I can justify it. I am not putting up with burdensome economic migrants that come to my country to get whatever the hell they can. A country without borders is not a sovereign nation. Don't want your kids locked up? Then don't drag them here! That is simple. I catch you in my house uninvited expect the best outcome is for your sad ass to get locked up.
@@1pcfred see you during the war. They could just drop off the kids in the middle of the desert. They don't need to keep them like pets.
@@1pcfred you mean the burdensome people that pay taxes, do their job and try to not break the law because cops would deport them? Or do you mean the burdensome folk who evade paying their taxes to keep their millions while actively working to get exempt of paying them and be left alone to plunder people and natural resources with no interest or care about consequences others have to suffer?
Gee, dude, your opinion is so compelling...
American citizens who commit a crime are sent to jail.
If they have children the kids don't go with them, the are then, say it with me Joe, "separated".
Could you try to empathize with these people and the places they come from?
Crossing a border is not the same type of crime as say commiting a robbery or assault.
I think you are too comfortable with the idea of others suffering in their lives just so that your comfort bubble is kept intact.
You can't let them all in or else there'd be a massive imbalance in migration, but to just be okay with separating families from their children is just selfish.
@@carsonvalerocoatsdecastro4022 Lets not pretend everyone who is separated from their children committed a serious crime.
If your parents break the law and go to jail than you are removing their children from them when you send them to jail how is it different
Because you're children are stripped away from you and put into awful government facilities, in which the parents dont know where their kids are and vice versa. Going to jail for a crime theres processing, phone calls, visitation. As well as the fact that crossing a border is like a misdemeanor
@@SirColonelVonBurger it's a misdemeanor the first time. Felony after deportation. I guess I'll do a road and doesn't realize that nearly half of it parents coming into this country with children are not related to the kid. But hey nobody should be separated.
@@Kashmirknight That's assuming they are actually the parents and not child trafficking. So what should you do to protect the kids. Separate them from the adults claiming to be parents and investigate. Even if they are proven to be the parents families can't be detained together thanks to the 1997 Flores settlement and releasing is not a solution cause very few report to immigration court. At the end of the day its a simple solution, don't risk your child's life violating U.S. law.
@@edmartin5616 couldn't agree more! There is one way your proven 100% not to be separated from your child. Don't take them to the US border to enter the country illegally.
@@Kashmirknight It's also the only way to guarantee your child isn't killed from disease, exposure, dehydration, drowning, Mexican gang violence, and any other hazards of illegal border crossings. Matter of fact, any parent in the U.S. that forces their child to endure hazards similar to crossing the border while committing a crime would be considered negligent and have their children taken away.
Okay, let's stop charging parents with crimes so we don't have to "separate kids from their children".
What about when US civilians break the law and are separated from their children?
We don't matter....only the ones who snuck their ass here so they didn't have to go the legal way....they matter....to the press
Dylan Kratz Only reason for the government to step in and take your child away is if you’re some crackhead who cant take care of or puts their child in danger continuously. Government doesn’t juts take them for no reason and if the government decides to take your children away then you must of committed a serious crime. It really is just benefits the children and keep them away from irresponsible parents but some people dont see it that way.
Parents in America are separated from their kids when they commit crimes.. it’s called committing a crime. You get separated from people..
But do their kids get put in cages and not even given everyday items like soap and water ?
Thanks captain fucking obvious
@@youngohgee1271 If an American goes to jail for a crime they are taken away from their children, so why shouldn't the same go for if Mexicans break the law...there no better than an American citizens! Do you think a judge gives a rats ass if a white or black man spends life in prison, there families can cry all they want its just too bad for the kids but the way it is. So if a Mexican breaks the law they know whats going to happen, it is there decision to break the law not ours! I hate t see anyone's kid get taken from them, but if they break the laws (Mexicans,Whites.Blacks), its there decision so its there fault! Joe Rogan is a moron when it comes to this!
@@jeffeverett1599 You ignored his entire comment about keeping kids in the CAGE. Why don't you just admit you're a closeted racist?
@@Andy-jd9ox where else do they have to go? Lol like think idiot
It warms my heart to see JR fans get so amazingly triggered of this video.
Not even your hero agrees with you lmao
Yeah I like how people get all mad when he has a “left leaning,” point of view in something.
@NASA IS GOD! You seem like an intelligent, level headed individual.
@NASA IS GOD! Inspiring stuff. Your education system is hard at work I see.
NASA your not helping this argument kid. Joe needed to do his research it’s clear he didn’t he’s just rolling with his feeling just like the rest of em, but it’s immensely more difficult to persuade someone offended than someone you kept level headed. I live in Texas and there is a crisis on our border in child trafficking/sex trafficking that’s why children get separated from family units
NASA IS GOD! Mom jokes and emojis....that’s childish in manner which is more the point I was making, didn’t help your case. But at least you don’t let your emotions rule your decision. I’ll take a rude mf over a dumb mf that talks nice, as long as he/she bases their views on facts. ie why I voted for Pres. Trump.
I mean, maybe I’m being a simpleton about this, but why don’t they just send them straight back?
because they come back.
When you arrest people, they have a basic human right to a trial?
@Julie I don’t dispute that, rather why do they need to arrest in order to deport?
@@katesteventon5296 Because no citizen has the right to drag people out of a country and if the government needs to intervene then there has to be an arrest and trial involved. It's a dangerous thing to give any government the authority to handle a human being (especially physically) without using the laws set in place. I'm not American, but I believe your Constitution says something about this? Look I know it brings up a lot of anger among your people, but once we start taking away human rights, regardless of citizenship, we go down a dark road in human history. I will also add that this is not a new phenomenon in history and especially not in current history. The world is experiencing the worst refugee crisis since WWII. People are seeking asylum across the globe
@Julie I’m not American actually , so I have no dog in this fight. However personally if I were to enter the country illegally and was discovered working, I would not see it as a violation of my human rights at all to be detained briefly without arrest and sent back home. In fact, I would much prefer that to a lengthy incarnation and criminal trial. Twenty years ago I lived and worked illegally in Israel and I got deported just like that. I was held at the airport for a day, and then I was sent home on the next available flight. I didn’t like it at the time, but on reflection it was a speedy and humane process.
Commit a crime with your child in the car. You WILL be separated from your child. Fucking ridiculous.
So if "children shouldn't be separated from their parents even if they break the law", then why are American prisons overcrowded?
Because of the war on drugs we have insane drug laws and it forces people into crazy prison sentences
Trucking Gator more people in prisons = more money
I understand both of your points. Mine was that the argument for not breaking up families even though a law was broken is ludicrous because it happens every single day to actual citizens of this country. What's good for us needs to be good for them, isn't that one of the reasons for coming here? To enjoy our freedoms and prosperity? Well laws are part of coming here.
SUPRA those immigrants aren’t technically prisoners because they aren’t in a prison, and also prisons are profitable 🤑
SUPRA do research on private prisons
FYI, the separation of children from parents from their kids has been going on for years, and yes even during the Obama administration. The main reason is they cannot put a child with an adult while in confinement. If we did then you would be hearing cases about children getting abused while under US care? As with the majority of these issues the solution isn't simple and an effective solution hasn't been done with any previous administration! Our politicians have never really tried to fix it and never will!
The scary part is that their very parents see them as passports and I can’t tell you how many times I’ve seen where they just hand over their infant to strangers who need a kid to go to border to be let in. Another instance was an 11 year old girl who border patrol asked where she was going then asked when is the last time you saw your parents? 11 years she answers. Since my birth. Doesn’t sound right.
A simple solution would be to just drive them back over the border and hand the whole family over to Mexican authorities.
Joe us talking out of his ass about that. I noticed he didn’t offer the solution to parents and kids coming across the border. Should we just pay for their room at the Hilton while they await their court date?
Damn Joe, you should have been my lawyer when I got sent up. After all, I was separated from the kids!
enter legally
Yeah- I wonder why we can't take children to adult jail. Weird
@@earthstrong7855 no
@@cavemanlovesmoke4394 ya why have laws in the first place, why not just plunge us all into the abyss and despair of anarchy.
Your kids should have been imprisoned with you and the other criminals!
The people in the DEA on average aren’t profiting from the drug war. The majority of law enforcement has merely been tricked into believing that prohibition is moral, while a few in power make the real big bucks
If I remember correctly, there’s a video of Bill Clinton on the same stance of immigration that Obama was talking about. In that same video, his supporters cheered and applauded him. As Joe and Dakota Meyer said, we’re a weird society.
Duncan "because I took LSD I'm smarter than you" Trussel
Yup. When he said LSD, I said...ooo-k
Joe basically thinks the same with dmt
I don’t think that was the intent, but I don’t think lsd is the key to unlocking these thought processes
@@Bimbologyexpert have you taken it ? It may seem that way but it really is the case, look up how many inventors took it.
@@Zantthe3rd agree with you. It’s something special to experience
We’d do it to Canadians if they were trafficking children.
Exaxctly!
Dude with the beard just rambling
idk i think he made great points, and duncan is one of my favorite guests. at the end when hes talking about the obama video, he literally blew my mind, not about that spcific video cuz i dont care lol. but about the fact that they could attempt to rewrite history by reposting old clips with altered dialog dubbed over it
pretty nice rambling
Um... some people having some short term memory loss... Dems used to be big anti immigration folks and Reps liked cheap labor. They have switched now because Dems like the votes and Reps dislike. Duh...
Some people are also too young to remember that stuff.
Tyler GERMANOWICZ nobody gives a shit whether it’s Dems or Reps looking people in cages and tearing their children away from them. asylum seekers have already DIED in border patrol custody, theyre video evidence of the horrid conditions, and for some reason only trump supporters seem to think that’s okay.
Good call Tyler! It was Obama that kicked out more than any POTUS and these left fuck holes didn't say a damn thing about it! Now it's evil!
I only listened for 4 min and I feel 20 years dumber.
same. this was a really bad interview. lol. "people are living in a terrible world" "they go on twitter and..." wtf?! if you are scared on twitter, you are either fucked up, or fucking up. there is nothing THAT fucking bad here. not for the citizens, anyway. maybe 1%, but only because everyone is trying to steal their shit daily.
Joe we have a few options. we can do what obama did and let them in while they wait for a hearing on getting deported, and 40% didn't even show up at court. we can send them back with no hearing, which i believe is unconstitutional. we can put the kids and the parents in detention centers together, which the court ruled in 2016 was illegal. or we could put the kids in places that provide them food, games, and education while the parents wait on their ruling.
also 80% of asylum claims are fraudulent and a lot of the time its not even their kids.
Yeah let the kids be with their parents in the adult's holding area, let's see what happens.
Stu H what’s gna happen?
@@YungassPadawan same thing that happens when you put minors in adult prison. Which is not something we do.
Children dont do too well in a eat or be eaten environment specially when surrounded by adults
When the parent of a child goes to jail, does the child come with the parent? How do you determine if the child is that of the parents if they come without papers? Of course it isn't pleasant to separate parents and children, but it may be necessary to preserve the safety of the children by ensuring they are properly documented...
I am a foster parent. Parents break the law and the kids are yanked everyday regardless of race or ethnicity.
But they aren’t abused, kidnapped, raped, and mysteriously disappear when the are put in custody
Except we don't know if those are their kids.
Stop supporting Human Trafficking
a lot of american's don't know if their kids are their own kids...classic!
Okay ...
@@personreanimation ever watch Maury?
Not typically, I work.
That is an arbitrary argument when 1 in 3 females crossing the border illegally are subject to sexual abuse.
@@personreanimation that too is arbitrary.
On the right side I don’t know anyone who says, ripping kids from parents-they shouldn’t have broken the law. It’s about trafficking and adults faking documentation or no documentation proving parental rights.
I think the dude with the beard is a bit cooked ...
NO U!
Joe helps people to be legally correct, so they won't end up in shit for talking bluntly and truthfully !! #Respect
Fuck that give me raw who the fuck wants a censor
I feel his almost melt down right now. It's almost like his words aren't matching what his thoughts were saying. Joe is really patient
We don’t let parents take their children to prison in America.
EXACTLY I always hated their you don't separate kids from their parents no matter what crime argument
Literally makes NO SENSE
But they're not going to prison. They're not Americans and haven't been convicted of a federal crime, separating them from their children is far worse both legally and ethically
@@shamrock141 crossing the border illegally IS a crime no matter what AOC wants to cram down people's throats
any country that isnt completly 3rd world and in the sticks has border control and policy's..
I don't see why america should be the only country with it's doors wide tf open for ANYONE to come in. if you try to rush the borders of any other country way worse shit will happen to you then your kid being taken away trust and believe that.
And exactly THEY AREN'T americans so if a american can be separated from their kids for breaking the law what makes you think someone in america ILLEGALLY should have a separate special privilege?
And if you want to bring in different immigrants that's at least a argument.get some people from zimbabwe and kuwait ect.ect. we shouldn't just be letting in people from Cuba and mexico by the hundreds of thousands if not millions just because they have a geological advantage!
We need border control to say we don't is asking for trouble
"We are close to a civil war" yeah I'm gonna be surprised if it doesn't happen at this point
We're up shit creek collectively as a country, but this is absolutely no way in hell that there will be another civil war. Its literally impossible from a logistical point of view.
@@hyypersonic man theres so much stuff thats going on that seems like if people sat down and just thought it through for a minute we would be in such a better place but for some reason people can't handle that
@@connormcgannon4918 i agree with ya
We all got to sing that song war what is it good for
@J.marq703 And the right can’t stand the fact that a democrat beat Trump but things aren’t that bad
I heard the separation was because they couldn't prove it was there own kid. They were trying to prevent kidnapped kids that were going to be used for child slavery.
Makes sense salvadoran gangs recruit kids from detention centers too
This is actually a fact yet it's not on the news...
Exactly
If someone is arrested where are the kids gonna go then. If I get arrested I’m pretty sure I’ll be separated from my kids.
Agreed %100, And the kids on the border, they did not even belong to the people who claimed ownership. Thoughs people were cartel members using kids to smuggle drugs, guns, and even the kids themselves
My kids cool to sit with me in the drunk tank because that's safer I think. Haha logic? Crazy lefties
If you get arrested you have a right to an attorney and due process and would likely get to go home, sleep in your bed, and be with your family.
Not saying you have to set them free into Texas or wherever but spare me that we're doing anything remotely humane, reasonable, or rational. Last I saw it was 26 kids have actually died in our detention - that's a disgrace.
It is not illegal to seek asylum under international law, point one. Point two the refugee convention refers to illegal manner of entry only to stipulate that such entry is not grounds for punishment. Point three therefore it is false equivalence to equate people seeking asylum with actual criminals as justifying the separation of families. A child cannot follow a criminal into jail, but a person seeking asylum has by definition not committed a crime under international or US law - it is at worst a civil violation which the refugee convention (that the US is signatory to) stipulates must not be punished.
numba 10 exactly and some just don't want to understand this.
We guard and protect the poppy fields for pharmaceutical companies , period.
Most of those Opioids are being synthesized by the pharmaceutical companies in their industrial labs. It ain't that.
@Jay Day Pharmaceutical companies don’t need poppies anymore. That argument doesn’t work anymore. Put your tinfoil hat on and see what else you can come up with.
God bless your heart and thought of mind joe that’s what real America is about. Oportunidad not hate 🇲🇽
We’re running out of money and room.
How about to have a picture with a gun and be from Mexico
@Nathan Bracey Perfect but enough with war then, protect your borders and bring home ALL your troops.
Nathan Bracey whose talking about serving your country good for u man ibet it felt good killing inocente people just like cartels they are a peace of shit don’t support them so what a bout my profile pic with a gun it’s a legal register weapon u guys have guns 2 and no one says shit 🇲🇽🇲🇽 American ain’t white land it’s made of all country’s together
Charlie Mitchell exactly all u need to know
If a mother from the US commits a crime and is arrested, will she be separated from her child?
This guest is remarkably well spoken.
Duncan Trussell rambles way too much. I can never parse what he's actually trying to say.
Russell Brand is way way more ramblish
He’s a blithering idiot. Not sure why Joe wants to talk with him. May be the most uninformed, ignorant guest Joe has had on in years.
Don't separate families send them all back lol
If my neighbors broke the law and went to jail their kids would be in foster care at least temporarily. Why would non-citizens have more rights?
brandoncrawford1982 there’s a difference between foster care and cages.
Ceasar Nunez and the law was changed years ago to require the kids kept with the parents which creates a situation in which either the children are detained with the parents to uphold the law or they are released with the adults who would be given a free pass on breaking our immigration laws.
Is it me or has joe really changed in past few months
R KID i think he's changing for sure after alex jones stab him in the back lol
What you really mean is that he disagrees with something you believe and you are having a conflict about it because you like the podcast. He hasn't changed at all.
Yeah. He's spoken on immigration before and said the opposite. Never seen someone go back to the bluepill.
Bro Bro lol if anything thats the red pill. You republicans are overdosing in blue pills. Lmao stop projecting
Bro Bro i guess we have different facts lmao stop hitting me up like your my bitch
What do we do with citizens when they break the law? Put them in jail and put the kids in foster homes, we separate them.
Joe is so spot on. Law enforcement is a game with cops scoring points. Its how to be noticed, get promoted etc.
If you were a US citizens, and you broke the law and go to jail, you also would be separated from your child when you are arrested.
If it’s immoral to separate children from parents in any way shape and form, then we need to empty our jails. This of course is lunacy.
I love Joe but he's wrong about the imaginary line. I'd bet his imaginary line around his house has a wall.
Jason Witt your house has a wall right so has your garden
Personal property=\=the country you were born in
@@mauauricio6449 There's literally no difference, this is OUR country.
This is one of the best rogan podcast segments I've ever watched. Thank you, Joe, for sticking up for immigrant families and the atrocities we have somehow voted to bestow on these poor, desperate people. Also, thank you to, ... ummm..... the other guy (famous famous comedian) for your incredible words on tendencies and how LSD opened your mind to be able to see more "big-picture." I 100% agree with all of this and hope more people see this vid.
We didn’t really vote for these atrocities. Obama deported more people than trump and began the separating kids and putting them into cages process. Obama didn’t run on being hard on immigration. Biden didn’t run on being hard on immigration but if he’s anything like Obama he’ll continue and probably expand these processes. The difference is the media didn’t highlight these practices under obama and they won’t do it under Biden. Most people that vote democrat think they’re voting against these practices not for it
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Thank you for showing that you haven't researched the topic and your views are based on pure emotion. Did your emotions tell you to ignore the fact that cartels exist? Did your emotions tell you to ignore the fact that human trafficking is a serious problem at the southern border? I also like how people like you never give any solution to the problem. Your emotions tell you its bad so that means its bad and needs to stop. Yet you offer no alternative.
You already have the racist who have never even talked to immigrants or grew up in the border talking about things they know nothing about.
When parents break the law as citizens many times they’re separated from parents.
Totally different situation.
He definitely set that cash on fire
If I rob a bank what happens? I get separated from my kids. Come on Joe wake up!
Joe, put down the pipe and pay attention: ANYONE who has their kids with them while breaking the law will be separated from them!
I love Joe but man, sometimes he has dumb logic.
@@inverse8584 but have you ever tried dmt? U might think about it differently if u tried dmt. U just might. I just might drool on yourself and also think differently
@@abelaldrete4259 oml. that's accurate as heck. also, smoking marajuana daily does not constitute an unhealthy lifestyle...
Not true, they're only taken away when a crime has been comitted and they are found guilty of said crime. I work for CPS in Lexington KY. We don't take kids away unless it's court ordered. Far as I know no court has ordered these immigrants to have their children taken.
God, your opinion is so black/white on this matter. It's so fucked.
Dude the problem is we don't confront these politicians in public anymore, if anything we were more critical of our leaders in the past than the present! We used to have more access to them in the past also they are becoming more and more sheltered from the public. They have been sheltered from the public so much so that they have lost the ability to understand the needs of our people.
why isn’t anyone talking about this aspect
WOW Joe is definitely detached from reality with this subject.
I work in public safety near the border. Over 1/3 of the kids are not even children of these adults. People have learned that dragging a child across the border is an E-ticket into the country.
We even have people that live near the border that take their kids across the line to "rent" their children out people wanting to cross. It's absolutely disgusting.
Speaking of disgusting let's not even go into the details about what happens to children that are being brought across under false pretenses. Shall we just give them all apartments and hope these kids aren't trafficked by the people posing as parents?
On that note, are we giving the children of parents arrested bunk beds in prison because we don't want to separate them? Why not? It's because these kids are put in grave danger being put in the mix with adults.
It's fun for Hollywood and politicians to express outrage from their gated communities, but that isn't the reality of what is happening on the ground.
T E N D E N C I E S
Law enforcement separate Americans from children everyday here legally lol
I was brought here when I 2 and a half if they sent me back I'm dead lol 😂 keep inspiring joe you the best shout out from Georgia. Born in mexico raised in Georgia.
He'll never seen this but I have proof I got here on the 4th of july. When we were about to cross I was crying and the coyote told me that if I stay quiet he will buy me a bag of Lay's when we got to the other side and when my parents told me I stay quiet and when we got to the other side I got the bag of Lay's. 😂
We ain't the problem bro.
Do I get to take my kid to jail when I break the law?
What law did you break? Go to work?
Joe can be ran pretty dumb sometimes, depending on his guest
@@user-gc1wj8tt2p Single parents with no other family members don't get send to jail in America?
Are you an illegal?
Hey. If a person gets arrested for any reason. & they have a child. That child is separated from that person.
renownedfear187 that’s not the issue, it’s how the u.s is handling it. They’re basically running concentration camp
What about every parent that is put in jail/prison and separated from their child?
They have visitation
Fix the laws so this doesn't happen. Come through a port of entry so this doesn't happen. Don't commit crime so you keep your kids. So many criminals lose their kids but they made the choice not the government. The government absolutely needs to change the laws so this insanity can end. I think we need a faster court process and the ability to send people home if we decline their entry
Exactly. This needs to happen. Not entering illegally.
WRONG. Fix the inhumane policy harming children. There corrected that for you trumptard piece of shit.
Sorry to say this but the government didn't make the parents bring/send the children to the US. The government didn't make the parents/kids walk across the border illegally. I blame the parents not the government. I didn't blame Obama's administration when he did the same thing or worse and I don't blame Trump's either. I do blame the parents. Liberals think this is a new problem. It's tragic but it's definitely not new. Personally I would like to see the borders closed until we take care of everyone here first. I lived in some of the poorest parts of this country. It's not flowers and rainbows for everyone already in the US. Go visit Chicago or Seattle and tell me we should be taking on more charity cases
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