I agree with that statement until you realize its usually broken men trying to raise boys to men, especially nowadays. So what do you do if the children grow up to be brokenly strong?
i'm about as non religious as one can be. in fact to say i'm not a fan of god is an understatement. that being said after hearing some radio interviews with Neale Donald Walsch i decided to read The Complete Conversations With God series. fucking amazing! highly recommend it. one of the topics discussed was parenting and how in evolved societies children are raised by the community as a whole, especially by the elders. granted, their entire set up is different than what we've created. anyway, it makes sense children will be raised better by a large group of elders. this doesn't mean the parents are cut off from the children or have zero input, but it does mean children are raised with a great awareness and realize there is more to the world than just what's in front of them. think about it. if humans took care of themselves, barring an accident or crime we could easily live past 100 and be basically healthy. a little slower physically with some aches and pains, but by and large functioning at a decent level. yet our most fertile ages are teens-30's. do you see the problem? most people reproducing haven't lived enough life to competently raise their offspring.
Shayne that's actually an amazing statement, because it's so obvious that it is overlooked in parenting, children's aid services, adoption, people's early life trauma as a real societal cost, etc. When people talk about having to *become an adult* at four or six years or some too-early age, they are not kidding. They actually lost a important part of their life that they will always try to functionally compensate for, this thing that they're missing inside. It's stressful and frustrating.
Whole generation of men who abandoned their children, all of my friends including me were raised by our mothers. And our dads are full of excuses and nonsense and expecting everything but did none of the actual work.
I’m in my early 20s and it’s nice to see most of my family members my age haven’t abandoned their kids, but one of my close cousins lowkey did. I’m not having kids anytime soon until I’m healed from father issues/ find a good partner. If either doesn’t happen I’m not gonna have kids Lol I’m not trying to raise more emotionally messed up human beings. Or atleast be the reason they need to take years to figure out how to be healthy individuals
Same here, except my mother was there for me up until I was 14, then forsook me, and then entirely abandoned me at 18. My father had utter bull shit to tell me when I asked him why he wasn't there for me. He blamed my mom and everything. My father still isn't here for me. He's a deadbeat.
@@shadowdoglaw257happens all the time. It's conditioned from sociality. The system is designed to remove the father. Eventually the mother will get removed as well. Then the children will be free of any parents and than can be sex trafficked . That's the direction USA is heading. Because USA sex trafficking children
Someone with their head that far up their ass has no idea that Joe is talking about themself. There's some serious dunning-kruger going on. The worst part of the whole story is that that cunt thinks that he's a good dad while his kid goes around getting addicted to heroin and punching other kids. Like you're right, there's justice, and it's always good that everyone knows that that's a bad dad, but bad dad has no idea.
You know that guy, the Dad feels like a total piece of shit after this show. Now he'll probably changes ways and at the very least he'll think twice about letting his kid run wild at a social gathering
The Benevolent Sun: parents like that, don't give a shit. They just defend their kid no matter what, and teach their kid that they're better than other people. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
its not that bad. when you are drunk, you dont notice the pain in stuff like that. Idk if its like that sober too but when I got beat while drunk and high as fuck and it didnt even hurt
I grew up with neglectful parents . . yes I was provided shelter and the bare minimums of education ect.. I just think if your going to have children and attain the "bare minimum" for them you should not have children at all. You must have your own issues sorted and have a degree of financial freedom, and a strong sense of self to have children. You must be able to adapt to change and deal appropriately when situations arise. I strongly despise those that have children without any recognition of the above.
I've grown up with a shitty childhood, and i've seen far too many kids being raised by neglective and abusive parents. I absolutely refuse to be anything less than a good father to my kids. I just wish more people shared the same attitude.
I’ve been raised with a shitty childhood too. I’m a mom now and I never neglect my 6 month old baby boy. I’m gonna make it my mission to make sure he has a good childhood and won’t experience what I’ve experienced, because I don’t want him to be depressed at such a young age.
And I’d argue the vast majority of people who should never have become parents knew that before having kids. But they were careless, overly image conscious, thought it was the natural next step, or any number of other reasons except wanting to raise and love children so they become good adults.
@J M That's a welcome change in tone. I know it's not an easy topic, and I've been there as well. The difference is whether it's a personal choice and right to do it or that it should be flat out denied for everyone, regardless of religious view, etc..
@J M It's impossible to offend me with facts, and it's extremely rare to see such reflecting online these days, such as what you did. I wish more people were like us. Now, have a good day, sir.
Being a good parent is hard because you have to find the perfect balance of making sure your kid doesn’t hurt the world, but not at the extent that you end up hurting your kid.
I'm a teacher and deal with this all the time. The worst ones, 90% of the time I find out that the parents are absent from their lives. Don't have kids if you don't want to raise them. Babysitters and nannies are not a substitute for a parent.
A neighbor of mine, she could stay home and raise the kids because the dad makes $200,000 a year but works all day instead so she can “pay for the nanny and feel important”
I was freaking blessed enough to be able to stay home and raise my son for 10years, then get an IT job at a hospital whose hours worked perfectly with school, I had a wonderful provider husband (he and I were making the same income before I quit). We made sacrifices but made it work. I thank my husband and the almighty for those times I got to spend with my son!!!
FACTS!!!!!! I’m a sitter and I been through this not even a month ago worked for the family 2yrs and watched the defiant behavior progress from 2 to 4yrs old I was disrespected my home disrespected other children disrespected and I hear you can’t expect kids to be perfect everyday there was many excuses made for the behavior and each excuse upset me more to the point I was shaking therapy is definitely needed but apparently the parent doesn’t think so. I could go on and on it pisses me off so bad
Fortunately raised a really good young man, and although I made my share of mistakes, the one thing I did right was spend a ton of time with him. He spent more time with me than he did with his friends, and I loved every moment of it.
Joe to Security: "Everything is gonna be okay, he's just gonna choke him out." I DIED. Hahahaha.
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I hope he gets sued... im facing 3. felonies. for only. saying. something to. someone who wouldnt leave me alone... but dudes can get away with blood chokes? wtf tho
Yeah. I do find it ridiculous that normal people would be pushed or yelled at . But since they recognized joe, people have a habit of just saying it’s cool . Wait till this happens to you. You’ll be pissed if your facing felonies for some drunk that wouldn’t fuck off .
I remember once as a kid I was at a party where my parents and all the other adults were drinking. I stepped barefoot on a rusty nail, got it stuck in my foot, bleeding all over the place and went up to my drunk parents where were talking with the other adults and it took over a minute to get their attention. This is something I’ll never forget
My dad would get drunk and come after me and my brother with a BB gun. Every weekend. It just sucks I can’t say this in person to new people I meet to make them understand why I got some issues. But on the bright side my daughter lives a happy safe life.
@@billehbutcha6625 well don’t be edgy about it. Obviously you can’t go around yelling ur ducked up. Go to the proper place… and not every psychologist is the same. Sometimes finding the right therapist is it’s own damn trauma and journey too. Good luck to you fellow human
The biggest problem is the “he didn’t/wouldn’t do that” parents. Parents who enable their kids and refuse to believe they would ever do anything wrong.
Yes, that's true. They forgot that everyone has a multilayer personality. Just because your child behave in front of you, doesn't mean she'll do the same behind. This type of parents think their child as an angel. Most of my friends (not all, of course) are doing this with their toddlers. They just let their kids running here and there causing havoc and then claim that those kids will never hurt other people.
Been there with those parents.. Im straight with them. No one likes me lol "Your youngest stole my girls doll, and I watched her throw it in that dumpster. You need to attend to that." "She wouldnt do that. No way she did that." "Listen, *what possible good reason would I have to lie to you about your child?* I saw it happened. And thats why we are talking now"
I'm actually dealing with that right now. On my Church's band, there's a woman with a 8 year old who's been pretty roundy for 3 years. Whenever he plays drums, his timing and beat is way too sped up and when we try to tell him to slow down, his mother tells us to leave him alone. It messes up the flow and whenever our Pastor plays with us she doesn't do any of that. Even after we play, the mother tells the son 'Don't go around the other members. They're jealous of your gifts.' I remember one Sunday me and my cousin were setting up for service and the kid came in messing with the sound system. When we tried to move him away, he went to his mother and lied, telling her that we tried to choke him. Didn't even touch his neck. Now we're finally bringing the issue up to our Pastor
I've seen both types. The "My little poopsykins wouldn't do that" and "I don't give a shit what my kid does, if he kills someone I don't care". We have just a society with narcissism going rampant.
I'm glad you do something about it though. At a wavepool, a kid was struggling so they were on the edge of the wavepool. The lifeguard blew their whistle to tell the kid to get off. I know you can't hang on the edge but that's why you help them get off and take them to a part of the pool that they are safe in.
John Atanassov I was a lifeguard as well, if no parent is in the pool you’re free to kick the kid out. If theres a parent around you’re free to kick them both out for something as simple as the parent not watching their kid or the kid not following rules. You have a lot more power than you think!
Oh man. When I was a guard, it was very easy to spot the bad parents. They're on their phones ignoring their kids, occasionally looking up to smile at them, and then looking back down at the magical glowing rectangle. And these are the same people who wonder why their kids act out so much. smh
Same. I was in college and I can't even tell you how many kids I saved whole moms were reading 50 shades of gray and getting a tan. I also had to brake up a bunch of fights between siblings.
Soooooooooo many people have kids who are in no way ready or committed enough to raise them. Everyone wants to have kids and take cute pictures of them when they are babies/toddlers, but few consider the constant supervision and interaction necessary to raise them right.
I was a store manager for 25 years with a major retailer. I really liked my career, even though at times it could be “retail hell”. Some of the worst times was with some of the “upper middle class non working, hubby makes a ton of money” moms. Super entitled attitudes that allowed their little spawns of Satan to tear the store apart while running and yelling down the aisles; like it was their own personal indoor playground, and me feeling forced to babysit while Mrs. Entitled turned a blind eye and deaf ear to the goings on. Dealing with that type of parent was an exercise in restraint from not slapping the moms and kicking the kids. You current and ex retail folks know exactly what I mean.
In costco canada the muslin mothers let their 7 year old sons run around and injured themselves from climbing and then the mom demands for a doctor in Canada. I laughed in her face , told her to go to front and ask for an ambulance or some first aid from the box
@@whathandleUtalkabtI’ve seen that. Ethnic moms with multiple children. In my mind, I’m thinking of the family as a zoo and the mom’s a zoo keeper. I should not have to put up with their wild kids.
Stop being like the parents yourself and blaming the kids. Kids are never to blame. It IS ALWAYS the fault of the parents and adults. You are part of the problem we have in society - a disdain and hatred for children.
@@thishandleistaken1011 Kids don't often have control to reject negative influences, it's the parents' job to prevent/minimise these and teach them to reject them. Neglectful parents feed negative influences and it becomes the only thing these kids know.
Spend time with your kids. If not they will be 18 before you know it and they will be gone. My shitty parents had me at 17. Hate my mom and sister, no communication. Talk to Dad on birthdays and major holidays. That is not a family. Every aspect of my life suffers from the trauma I still carry from no one giving a shit while I was growing up
Daniel Lion Yeah, same here. Divorced family, mom was bipolar so I lived with Dad. Dad got married to a Cali blonde and realized she was an idiot. He became disillusioned with his life and didn't participate in our lives at all.
Daniel Lion Know what that feels like. I have a shitty dad, but my bros (some) and sisters learned not to fuck up like he did. It happens and unfortunately we have to go through it. But I will be test in the future if I have kids, whether to be like my dad or be better.
I’m not one to feel sorry for myself, but I grew up in a really neglectful environment, as did my mum. Then breaking that cycle of behaviour has been the hardest thing ever. Love your kids people - give them affection, guidance, be a great example to them. Take the time to listen to what they want to tell you, and try to answer their questions. I know it’s frustrating but it will pay off in the end. ✌🏻
My mom had a kid at 18 . Then had me at 32 worse mistake ever. Teen moms never grow up okay? She’s 58 now still the same. My older sibling been left the family. I’m stuck.
Sounds like my mom. She has had been a mother figure in her life since the age of 8 or 12, basically her mom killed her self and she was stuck being the only daughter with 5 brothers. To this day she’s very self centered and childish on a lot of things and i cut ties with her after she yelled at my fiancé’s young sibling (8 y/o) about not paying attention and called him fat ass and stupid. when I confronted her and asked her why can’t she just see how happy my girl makes me and being that I was depressed for a while you’d think she’s shove her ego to the side and be happy for us. nope. she said how I’m ungrateful cuz she let me use her car when I moved out, (mainly complaining about how many miles I put on it, which is about 12K I’m over a years time, I live in miluwakee and would drive to Chicago to see her and other family) Anyways we now hardly talk and although yeah I miss her and wish we could have a great relationship, she’s just too immature and stuck in this self centered mindset where it’s super toxic and I don’t have the deal with that, it’s the greatest feeling ever.
My father is a narcissist, he was highly abusive my whole life. After 36 years, I decided to go “no contact”. I told my mother, not to tell me when he’s dead, I won’t be attending his funeral.
SmashFinale - Yes, but if I delay my happiness until that date, I’ll have wasted my life too. I’ve already buried him, psychologically. I’ve accepted I’ll never have the opportunity to experience the love of a father, and all the positive flow on consequences that would have come with that. So I’ve said “goodbye” to what could have been, and accepted 100% what is.
How about a kid is at a small crowded park here in Philly just throwing a frisbee with disregard for children and adults. He almost hit me. He almost hit a few people. I take the kids frisbee and tell him he can't just throw the frisbee without looking at where it's going and if he does it again I will talk to his parent. Then the dad sees me and half walks over. "did he hit you?" he asks. I told him that his son almost hit a lot of people, but not intentionally. The father had been watching everything, by the way. He tells the son, "hey, watch it with the frisbee" then sits back down on a bench. The boy picks the frisbee up and hurls it vertically. I catch it before it hits someone. So I take action. I already talked to the dad. I already took the frisbee once. I look at the kid and say, "come over here and let me show you how to throw this". Then I proceed to teach him how to throw the frisbee the proper way, which is probably what he wanted to do with his dad in the first place. I did this for ten minutes while my kids played on the monkey bars. The dad still didn't get the message,. but I did what I had to do.
My dad was a drill sergeant. I have autism. He literally thought making me homeless would cure my autism. It makes me cry to think how many disabled kids are neglected.
@@bpaajcisna5595 im good now. Honestly, government programs to help autistic people are improving Government programs for disabled americans are a good thing.
My sister threw a house party with some friends, most of whom she met at a pregnant Mom's club or whatever, so they all had kids the same age (2). Everyone was kind of watching out for everyone's kids, but also socializing and drinking indoors and in the yard. One kid just starts peeing all over the living room, and absolutely every single Mom pitches in to get him and the room cleaned up, EXCEPT the parents of the kid, who just stayed out in the yard. I think they even said something about this happening before, and then casually went on with their evenings. They weren't invited to any more parties.
I once helped this little boy, maybe 3 or 4, who was lost on the beach. He was crying and following me, apparently the tide had carried him further down the beach than he should have been and he didn't know where he was. I was bringing him to the life guard when the guard met me half way and took him. Maybe an hour later I was walking on the beach and saw the boy again. His mom was asleep and her kids were running around unwatched. Great parenting, really safe. Your kid could have been dead or kidnapped and you don't even leave the beach after he's found. You fall asleep to let it happen again. Great.
Yknow i remember being in that situation when I was quite young. I believe it was a nice old lady who had helped me out. You never really think of these things as a kid but my mother and her boyfriends were not good parents. Not parents at all really.
Parenting needs to be a mandatory highschool class, too many people grow up never completely emotionally or mentally stable and a decent bit of it is fixable with relatively small changes in how one addresses parenting.
Never thought of that. That’s a really good idea. The reason society is becoming more and more hedonistic is because people children are being neglected rather than taught or disciplined. People are so unaware that without teaching the order to the youth the chaos arises.
@@ButterBallTheOpossum like I said relatively small changes, not "radically forcing all parents to use my ideals" as in "please don't do x,y and z and please do a, b and c if you want your child to grow up without long standing psychological issues"
@@ButterBallTheOpossum Exactly. With the stuff they're pushing in schools now, if they started a parenting class it would be about how to transition your 1 year old
I work in an elementary school with kids who need additional support and if people just tried harder at being parents and actually spent time teaching their kids the basics at home, the kids wouldn't have so much trouble in school.
While, it's no doubt that the weight gain and other funky physical feelings from the medication on top of the heartless bullying are creating an unpleasant experience for your little brother. But may I suggest that his change in personality could be from the fact that your little brother had a major existential experience. Think about it, he had to face the reality of death at such a young age. Very few people ever even muse on death during adulthood. He must have some very deep thoughts and very confusing feelings over it. He needs to talk about that experience and sort out his thoughts over it. It takes a lot of work to be able to articulate them well for an adult, imagine how hard that is for a kid. The silver lining in this is that a difficult experience like that, at an early age, is the hallmark of brilliant artists, writers, poets, innovators, philosophers. A sketch book is a good place to start. Images can express things you can't put words to yet. Sketchbooks can also be used to record phrases which you can begin to piece together as the years go on. I had a very difficult childhood due to chronic health issues that led to severe bullying and chaotic family life, and I have stacks and stacks of notebooks, sketchbooks, photography albums. Life sucked, but I have turned it into an advantage.
I used to work as a substitute teacher in government school and also as a tutor in tuition centres. I'm amazed to see that most parents expect their children to learn about everything just because they are being sent to school. And I'm also surprised to see that most of the teachers here (not all, of course) expect those students to be taught in one way system.
100% agree with you... most people nowadays think housewife’s are a sexist thing but it’s 1000% beneficial for the kids and also for the father who might have a career
Cameron Fletcher it doesn’t necessarily have to be a stay at home mom. Women can have successful careers while the dad takes care of the children. Generally though it’s super beneficial for the kid to have a parent around majority of the time
Dan0101010101010 Thats what I don’t quite understand. I would want better for my kids, I want them to grow up with a father and to have things I never had. How does this mindset become anything but the norm?
I never had even a one minute conversation with either of my parents through 18 years under my father's roof. My father never touched me except to punish me.I can't remember even one hug from my mother. I do rememember her slapping my face and saying "you're hysterical" when i complained one time about my brother who bullied me for years , and told me once that every morning when he woke up he planned how he could ruin my day. We lived in the middle of no where and for 6 years i never saw another child except at school. All the kids there were german and related to each other and went to the same church. They had no interest in me. In 1970 i went to basic at fort Leonardwood, no one was there to say goodbye. I was surprised that other "trainees" got letters, i didn't. 5 years later i joined the Navy, also during the Vietnam war, because i was homeless and had nothing to eat. I was released about 14 months later with a diagnosis of schyzophrenia and sent to the same govt. hospital that an aunt of mine had spent her life in alone with the same disease. Some how my mother knew i was there and came and bitched about my father divorcing her and then left. I never saw another family member again to this day. There's plenty more to my story of unbelievable suffering because no one in my family cared if i lived or died. But God cared and healed me instantly may 10 of 2017. Now,4 years later i am finally a human being again after 50 years of never knowing for sure what was going on around me. I'm beginning to live for the first time at age 70, but i may not live very long? If there's one good thing in your life your much better off than millions of people with schyzophrenia who can't even comprehend let alone receive any warm feeling that we call love.
This is a late reply so maybe you’ll never read this but I just wanted to say that I’m really sorry that you had to go through all of this in your life but I’m glad that you’re glad that you finally have become a living person again and I hope you have more years to get to experience whatever it is that you never felt you did all this time before. Good luck, friend, I hope you can continue to find more in this world that helps you feel human and wanted. I struggle with feeling loved too and am also trying to do better!
Hi Daniel, thanks for sharing your experience. I am so sorry for what you had to go through. Nobody deserves that kind of treatment. I hope you find peace in your life by really healing from those experiences. How is your experience with schizophrenia now? Would like to hear from you. It is all about love, and that is the fundamental of evolving as a person.
Ned’s parents were neglectful hipsters, but Ned took a radical treatment which involved being spanked for a whole summer straight. The treatment was a success except for the fact that Ned was for the most part unable to display anger. Just a fun Simpsons fact
Seeing a bad parent is really frustrating. Why don’t you care about this thing you put life into. Why is it not your number 1 priority to cherish and make this thing better? What is wrong with people
Imagine being a teacher and having to deal with parents like that- who refuse to raise their kids and then deny that they are aggressive or have any problems. I’ve been called a liar many times when I was teaching and would call parents to let them know that their child received a detention or something. “He would never do that!”, “it’s your fault!”, etc. I’m so glad I quit teaching. LOVED my kids, hated the parents.
I was a teacher and had a 5 year old student destroy the gym... I'm talking flipping tables and throwing scissors at myself and other teachers. Had to evacuate the rest of the kids out for their safety (not the first time this had happened and I'm sure not the last). The child never got suspended. The parents were threatening to sue, even though I documented and video recorded the massive tantrum as proof. All because the girl didn't want to do something with the rest of the class... She had options. But no, she decided to tear everything up and she knew she was going to get out of any responsibility... Because clearly she does that crap at home too. It was ridiculous. After 15 years of working with children and 10 years of working in education, I walked. These parents are nuts to allow this behavior to even happen in the first place at home. And yes, teachers judge the hell out of how parents parent... Or I should say, lack of parenting because they are cowards to give their progeny any kind of boundaries. It's pathetic. If you don't work in education, don't go into it. You'll thank yourself later.
I was out doing my job putting fliers on doors with my son because he wanted to help dad. My son took one side of the street because he wanted to try on his own & I was on the other & able to see my son. I noticed a 40ish old man talking to my son on the sidewalk & my son’s boys language told me it wasn’t friendly. I hustled over to assess what was going on & the dude said “I have a no soliciting sign & he put your stuff on my door”. I apologized, saying it was a mistake & the guy’s voice elevated as we started to walk away. Now, being 6’3’, 225 lbs, half Irish with a lot of full contact under my belt, I turned with my game face on & said in a very level voice - “enough, you made your point”. Needless to say, he did a pretty quick about face. I am excessively patient but when it comes to bullies, the patience gets dialed down & I draw a line.
It’s not hard, almost everyone “practices” murder daily. If you drive a car you can murder a pedestrian walking across the street. Almost anything you do can result in an accidental murder.
This genuinely opened a lot of thoughts for me having a single mom that had to work and an army uncle who I looked up to, I can now call my dad at this stage of my life
nice. i had a single mom to. but no real male figure to look up to. now i am learning what is to be a good male role model for myself and others. on my own. self made man as they say. but i do thank my mom even if she had to work. she still made time fo rme. but she can't teach u everything
Tell it straight Joe!!! When my wife and I decided to have a child we decided one of us was ALWAYS going to be with her. We knew what we were getting into and sacrificed to have a family.
I was on a vacation recently and the people next door in the resort had a kid that was about 6 or so, and he shouted and yelled at the parents, and basically treated his parents like garbage. I overheard the parents talking next to our shared wall with a connecting door that was locked (so easy to hear everything without trying and sitting anywhere in our room) and the mom was telling the dad he needs to do something about their son. His response “I’m on vacation.” The mom spent about an hour each morning and another each night “explaining” to the kid how he is not acting properly and should behave because there are “others staying at the resort” and the kid would just holler and scream at her. He seemed to be normal kid whenever we saw him outside in the public areas, so doubtful he had any medical issues as they ate at a table next to us one night and he seemed just like a regular kid then, and also when at the swimming pool. Whenever we’d run into them coming in/out of the rooms the mom would apologize for her kid. When you have kids and you take them with you anywhere, you are still a parent 1st. It took a lot of restraint to not chew the parents ass out, especially the slug of a dad. But I figured they’d have enough problems in a few more years as that kid will run wild over them because he basically already was.
Great podcast. Joe couldn't have said it any better. Parents shouldn't be having kids if they don't put the time and energy I'm raising them. Your kids are no one else's responsibility or problems but your own.
@@lizmyers469: To be fair, if you know that you'll be struggling to be around to spend time with your child because you'll have to be working excessively just to keep them fed and housed, then maybe it isn't a very responsible thing to have one. Not that being wealthy is a sufficient condition in itself, but children are attention intensive.
I was told I'd never concieve so when I had my miracle at 35 I was so thrilled. My friends were always trying to get me to go out but it just wasn't fun when I just kept thinking about my son. I figured there would be time to party later. My husband had trouble adjusting but eventually he started to enjoy being a dad. He's grown, on his own, and I don't regret one minute I spent with him.
I understand the mentality that parents should be present to raise their kids, rather than focusing solely on a career or recreation, but I had a mom that didn't work a day in her life. All she did was stay home and hover over my brother and I. This caused a lot of resentment in her which she usually took out on us. She had other issues too, like a traumatic childhood. But I think it's important to strike a balance between your own needs and raising your kid(s), otherwise it becomes unhealthy and creates a lot of negative energy that your kid is going to feel. Not saying it's easy, being a parent is probably one of the toughest things to do. But I think spending too much time worrying about your kids can be just as bad as not spending enough. Make the time you spend with them count and lead by example by taking care of your own needs too.
Yeah that's unfortunate that's why I think it's based to try to solve some of those internal problems before u have children and know your weakness and strengths
When are such parents going to realise the seriousness of not bringing their children up with decency & respect, it’s massive & effects the rest of their lives.
There are many many people who should never have had kids--for many reasons--selfishness, irresponsibility, cluelessness/ignorance, addictions (alcohol, drugs, etc.). Unfortunately many people take "having children" as a given, just because they want them. And it's much more than just providing food/clothing/shelter/physical safety.
Ankur Mudugu It’s difficult to love a child who probably has emotional issues because his/her biological parents abandoned him or her or lost them. It’s tough.
there’s so many bad things about a parent being emotionally and physically abusive, but there’s also those type of parents who are in denial about their kid’s bad behavior. this type of parenting allows their children to think that they can truly get away with anything they do or so because their parents will be the first to protect them. i can feel joe’s anger when he talked about the dad and son situation, i have guy cousin who is now 18-19 and his outcome from his mom’s bad parenting is truly what i expected for it to be. everyone in my family dislikes him because he barely faced any consequences from harming others. he went as far as sa a younger cousin of mine and his mom still defended him and try to denied that he would never do such thing even though when he was in elementary school he would always annoy a girl he had a crush on (and yes the girl made multiple complains to school about his behavior and nothing was done about because of his mom) it’s bad parenting like this that boils my blood because all the awful things my cousin did to others could’ve been avoided if it wasn’t for him mother.
this whole conversation is exactly why I can't help but feel like one parent should either not work or only work part time while their kids are really young sobthat can spend quality time with their kids and raise them properly, otherwise you turn your kids into little monsters raised by daycare and electronics before they even reach the age of 5...
Tyler Worsham I don't want to work less than 30 hrs a week. Luckily nurses have 3 day 12 hr work weeks. Hopefully I can make it work after I have kids. Part time is an option, stay at home slave is not.
Some of the most monstrous children were raised by a stay-at-home parent 🙄 career is not the factor here. Lots of parents send their kids to daycares even though they don’t need the childcare just so the kids learn basic life lessons and learn that not everyone will baby them. It’s choosing to spend your free time with your family and for the parents coordinating their schedules so the kids are not always with babysitters that makes the difference.
Lynnie Shaw I am sole provider at 25 for my wife and daughter. Is it easy? No. Is it possible? Yes. Good dads and Stay at home moms are two of our nations greatest assets.
Tyler Worsham how about just don't have kids at all. Some people are so used to be in relationships and dating, they just naturally have kids. It's been like that since probably the start of humanity.
I never had kids but I have to say, if I did, I would spend TIME with them and discipline them. It HAS to be that way! Biggest things I'd teach? Respect, good manners, self-esteem and general politeness. I gush over a polite kid.
If parents say "he is a good kid" that expression is just another way of saying "i am too lazy to discipline my child so you shouldn't too". If it was law i'd have smacked so many parents by the time i graduated out of high school.
I worked at the boys and girls club for a while and we pretty much had to raise some of those kids. Some kids would order their parents around when picked up, no respect. Because their parents don’t know how to discipline
Who's complaining. Suck a fat one. Why even comment if you're gonna be a complete piece of shit. This whole generation quick to talk shit online but silent in public lol. Talk that shit to your kids, not adults.
bully parents should be treated as we treat other types of child abusers.. they belong on a register and honestly would be best served living in a secure sheletered acommodation .. defeinitely should never be employed in management or government jobs
Hey Joe, Thank you for validating the efforts of common folk trying to raise their children right and those who endure ridicule for such efforts. This little segment is a powerful tool!
I think it is interesting how the discussion of poor parenting and how poor parenting affects the youth so rarely discusses it across socio-economic levels. Poor parenting is usually equated with a certain degree of poverty as well as a certain amount abuse in a clear context. The discussion doesn't often reach into the dangers of normality or forcing normality upon the child. When parents are ignorant or misguided themselves, and then transfer a highly skewed way of thought and feeling onto their kids.
Dallas VanLoozen a sentence in the middle of this confused me: are you saying you equate poverty to a certain degree of abuse? Or it's equated according to most?
That’s one thing that seriously infuriates me, when you literally see something happen and someone looks you right in the face & says it didn’t happen 🤬
It's not your job to make your children happy, to make them your friend. Your job is to prepare them for life, teach them how to survive and provide for themselves, how to treat their fellow human beings, etc. If you do this well the bi-product will likely be that the child will be happy, and you will both like and respect one another.
Well...ok. I 100% agree parents are supposed to prepare their children for life. How many grown adults have we all met that can't do basic things, everyday things? If you can potty train your kid, you can teach them to use a fork and knife, and while your at it, teach how to cook basic meals so they aren't living off of cereal and frozen pizza. I believe in chores that are age appropriate, being responsible, learning to work and earn money. My oldest is in college and a classmate asked her how to use the vending machine. Wth? It's also our job as parents not to raise kids that aren't a total mess and go out into the world one day and drive everyone nuts. But people who had unhappy childhoods are usually not great be around. Being happy as a child actually contributes to brain development. My kids all smile and giggle in their sleep when they're young. Well rounded development is important.
i'm about as non religious as one can be. in fact to say i'm not a fan of god is an understatement. that being said after hearing some radio interviews with Neale Donald Walsch i decided to read The Complete Conversations With God series. fucking amazing! highly recommend it. one of the topics discussed was parenting and how in evolved societies children are raised by the community as a whole, especially by the elders. granted, their entire set up is different than what we've created. anyway, it makes sense children will be raised better by a large group of elders. this doesn't mean the parents are cut off from the children or have zero input, but it does mean children are raised with a great awareness and realize there is more to the world than just what's in front of them. think about it. if humans took care of themselves, barring an accident or crime we could easily live past 100 and be basically healthy. a little slower physically with some aches and pains, but by and large functioning at a decent level. yet our most fertile ages are teens-30's. do you see the problem? most people reproducing haven't lived enough life to competently raise their offspring.
Everyone kept asking me and my wife when we planned to have kids as soon as we were married. I know I don't have the money space or time to raise a kid the way I think they should be raised. Theres also other friends around me having kids and they'll want their demon spawn to interact with my child, and I'm not having an ill raised spoiled child ruining my hard work.
SEA LEVEL CLAY I completely agree. And it also takes a village to raise a child. Parents, siblings, kids, kids friends parents, teachers etc. No parent raises a child on their own. That's bollox.
Denial is very often an individual's reaction to avoid having to take responsibility. Not having to take responsibility absolves a parent of doing the very thing they'd rather avoid. Unfortunately for many people, not just parents, confrontation is uncomfortable, but if the difficult moments in life could be resolved by denying it and walking away, for some that is everything. Problem is, each and every time a parent avoids or ignores reprimanding their child they are only putting it off to become more complicated later. You reap what you sow or you get what you deserve. Whatever you put your time, talent and energy into is what you get back. You reap what you sow means you must eventually face the consequences of your actions.
"never raised a kid before" That was the humbling moment for me when my eldest was born. Realising my parents had no fucking clue what they were doing when they had me either"
Its even more confusing when they say they love you with words but their actions show the opposite. When I think of all the money I have had to spend on therapy to try to correct their wrongs it makes me so mad that I can't sue them to get my money back :(
@apopuffkin1717 I feel you bro. From the outside my parents look so nice and supportive, but they are empty and violent in ways that nobody understand.
My parents have always refused to travel without my sister and I. Its amazing, once we were of legal age, we had to argue with them and convince to go on trips just the two of them. On the flip side, I have been a tennis coach since the age of 15 and at least 50% of the time I am babysitting these 6-9 years old. Their parents are on the tennis court with their eyes glued to their iphones. It's incredible how little some of these parents care
This reminds me of when my granddaughter took swimming lessons and the adults would sit in a viewing area. There were two mothers that totally ignored their little daughters trying to show them things in the water and get their attention. It was beyond obvious the children were bothered to them
Taylor Napper don't mess up like i did when i was younger and commit crimes because you will have a hard time trying to get a job stay out of trouble finish school and remember to love yourself and never give up
RAIN MAYHEM I've took two steps down that road but thank God I didn't do anything that would mess me up like that so I found a better road now I'm working on my mentality thanks for caring
georgyorgy2 he probably bought parenting and had mentor parents that taught him how to pretend to teach other parents who want to teach their kids to grow up and teach their grandkids. It’s a very clear processes where you just need the mentors to tell you how they did it, and to explain how it won’t work for you, and then bam. It works.
My dad pulled a gun on me tonight. I'm a 54-year-old man visiting him with my son and all he does is scream and put us down. I told him that I'm not putting up with that and you have been doing this my entire life. he simply cannot take any criticism at all in any small manner, he went to get his gun after telling me "I need to be put down and shot"… Obviously we got the fuck out of there. But it just crystallized my life and why I've had so many screwups!
I don't think its that people think they CAN have a career and take care of kids, its that people HAVE to have a job/career in order to financially provide for a kid, even if both parents are still in the picture. 3 decades of wage stagnation will do that to a generation.
Thisold Hatte I agree with your sentiments, however I think the point is that on a macro level, the amount of children people are having should decrease because of the wage stagnation. People should make the decision not to have a kid, if they can't properly raise them.
My parents fought constantly. Nearly every day. Anytime, anyplace, in front of anybody. This meant that they didn’t have time to deal with any problems that their kids were having. We couldn’t tell them anything because it would start a fight. I’m not sure how their kids became good, productive citizens.
That whole generation never knows when to stfu, they aren't reasonable people. My parents are advanced age and still act like children, it's inconceivable. Just sorry ass losers.
“It is easier to build strong children than it is to repair broken men.” - Frederick Douglas
P u s s a a y
@@user-ne1tb2cm4d yeah we know you are one. Don't feel bad. It's ok.
Douglass*
Pretty sure that is the philosophy of the Catholic Church.
I agree with that statement until you realize its usually broken men trying to raise boys to men, especially nowadays. So what do you do if the children grow up to be brokenly strong?
Childhood abuse includes neglect, not just physical abuse. Thanks for this clip.
William Robinson agree! Some kids actually behave like shit because that’s the only way they will get attention at all.
Boxing Supraves a) I wrote „some“ children and b) neglect IS a form of child abuse
Boxing Supraves neglect IS abuse. no one said shit about not paying attention to your kids for short periods of time. he said NEGLECT
Neglect is how your kid ends up getting molested or worse
You forgot narcissistic abuse.
Childhood is the most important part of a person's life. It all starts with Childhood.
i'm about as non religious as one can be. in fact to say i'm not a fan of god is an understatement. that being said after hearing some radio interviews with Neale Donald Walsch i decided to read The Complete Conversations With God series. fucking amazing! highly recommend it. one of the topics discussed was parenting and how in evolved societies children are raised by the community as a whole, especially by the elders. granted, their entire set up is different than what we've created. anyway, it makes sense children will be raised better by a large group of elders. this doesn't mean the parents are cut off from the children or have zero input, but it does mean children are raised with a great awareness and realize there is more to the world than just what's in front of them. think about it. if humans took care of themselves, barring an accident or crime we could easily live past 100 and be basically healthy. a little slower physically with some aches and pains, but by and large functioning at a decent level. yet our most fertile ages are teens-30's. do you see the problem? most people reproducing haven't lived enough life to competently raise their offspring.
use punctuation please
@@johnmckeown6573 stfu
Yea, no shit Confucius
Shayne that's actually an amazing statement, because it's so obvious that it is overlooked in parenting, children's aid services, adoption, people's early life trauma as a real societal cost, etc.
When people talk about having to *become an adult* at four or six years or some too-early age, they are not kidding. They actually lost a important part of their life that they will always try to functionally compensate for, this thing that they're missing inside. It's stressful and frustrating.
Whole generation of men who abandoned their children, all of my friends including me were raised by our mothers. And our dads are full of excuses and nonsense and expecting everything but did none of the actual work.
I’m in my early 20s and it’s nice to see most of my family members my age haven’t abandoned their kids, but one of my close cousins lowkey did. I’m not having kids anytime soon until I’m healed from father issues/ find a good partner. If either doesn’t happen I’m not gonna have kids Lol I’m not trying to raise more emotionally messed up human beings. Or atleast be the reason they need to take years to figure out how to be healthy individuals
Same here, except my mother was there for me up until I was 14, then forsook me, and then entirely abandoned me at 18. My father had utter bull shit to tell me when I asked him why he wasn't there for me. He blamed my mom and everything. My father still isn't here for me. He's a deadbeat.
Did you guys actually talk to your fathers about what really happened?? Maybe the mother alienated you from your dad
@@shadowdoglaw257happens all the time. It's conditioned from sociality. The system is designed to remove the father. Eventually the mother will get removed as well. Then the children will be free of any parents and than can be sex trafficked . That's the direction USA is heading. Because USA sex trafficking children
@@JasonGafarSame, man. Makes my blood boil.
Imagine the dad watching Joe rogan absolutely roast the shit out of him on a personal level in front of millions of people.
Someone with their head that far up their ass has no idea that Joe is talking about themself. There's some serious dunning-kruger going on. The worst part of the whole story is that that cunt thinks that he's a good dad while his kid goes around getting addicted to heroin and punching other kids. Like you're right, there's justice, and it's always good that everyone knows that that's a bad dad, but bad dad has no idea.
You know that guy, the Dad feels like a total piece of shit after this show.
Now he'll probably changes ways and at the very least he'll think twice about letting his kid run wild at a social gathering
Liked because Tool :)
I gave your 1000 like lol
The Benevolent Sun: parents like that, don't give a shit. They just defend their kid no matter what, and teach their kid that they're better than other people. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
Dude getting choked out
*OMG ARE YOU JOE ROGAN??*
Priorities, man. Priorities.
“Can I get a picture bro?” 😂
Or is he Roe Jogen? the world may never know
Myem this would most likely be my reaction too lmao
Literally me if I was the security guard
Imagine being Drunk and you unknowingly pick a fight with a professional MMA fighter.
Rich B that dude probably doesn’t even remember if he thought these guys were in his place
Always look at someone's ears before starting a fight
TAIT Fletcher
its not that bad. when you are drunk, you dont notice the pain in stuff like that. Idk if its like that sober too but when I got beat while drunk and high as fuck and it didnt even hurt
"Dunk". You clearly ARE drunk. Lol
I grew up with neglectful parents . . yes I was provided shelter and the bare minimums of education ect.. I just think if your going to have children and attain the "bare minimum" for them you should not have children at all.
You must have your own issues sorted and have a degree of financial freedom, and a strong sense of self to have children. You must be able to adapt to change and deal appropriately when situations arise.
I strongly despise those that have children without any recognition of the above.
I hear you and I agree 1000%! I also want to take things a bit further and have this enforced by law.
Ditto.
same here, hope you’ve healed. I’ve been working on it for years
Sounds like a satanic Jezebel justifying their excuse for not having kids or doing their part for God
I've grown up with a shitty childhood, and i've seen far too many kids being raised by neglective and abusive parents. I absolutely refuse to be anything less than a good father to my kids. I just wish more people shared the same attitude.
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@@amadeuschavez. you're thick.
I’ve been raised with a shitty childhood too. I’m a mom now and I never neglect my 6 month old baby boy. I’m gonna make it my mission to make sure he has a good childhood and won’t experience what I’ve experienced, because I don’t want him to be depressed at such a young age.
Not saying anything about you specifically cause I don’t know you but most terrible parents would say they are good parents
Yes my parents were so great..they taught me how to NOT treat my children.
Some people should seriously never be parents. Sorry he is a good kid isn't a solution.
And then there's still the debate over abortion...
And I’d argue the vast majority of people who should never have become parents knew that before having kids. But they were careless, overly image conscious, thought it was the natural next step, or any number of other reasons except wanting to raise and love children so they become good adults.
@J M Well aren't we being a bit self-righteous. Religions kill people, therefore religious people are murderous maniacs by default?
@J M That's a welcome change in tone. I know it's not an easy topic, and I've been there as well. The difference is whether it's a personal choice and right to do it or that it should be flat out denied for everyone, regardless of religious view, etc..
@J M It's impossible to offend me with facts, and it's extremely rare to see such reflecting online these days, such as what you did. I wish more people were like us. Now, have a good day, sir.
When a parent’s trauma overrides their ability to think, their children will experience the fallout.
So damn true
Absolutely 💯 👍👏
Yep that’s fs
so fkin true
Absolutely! Physical adults with emotional intelligence of 10 year olds. Unresolved childhood traumas
Being a good parent is hard because you have to find the perfect balance of making sure your kid doesn’t hurt the world, but not at the extent that you end up hurting your kid.
Most parents aren’t good though, just decent.
Precisely. It’s a constant tip toe on the fine line between the two. 😫
such is life. EVERYTHING is balance. part of me wants kids part of me does not. i have dogs. and that can be a handful enough.
Your a bad parent lol
You don't have to hurt your child. Your child does however need to believe that you will if they step out of line.
This guy's face looks like those disguise glasses.
Holy shit 😂
LOL dayum
Groucho Marx
Jay S underrated comment
LMFAO😂😂😂
I'm a teacher and deal with this all the time. The worst ones, 90% of the time I find out that the parents are absent from their lives. Don't have kids if you don't want to raise them. Babysitters and nannies are not a substitute for a parent.
A neighbor of mine, she could stay home and raise the kids because the dad makes $200,000 a year but works all day instead so she can “pay for the nanny and feel important”
I was freaking blessed enough to be able to stay home and raise my son for 10years, then get an IT job at a hospital whose hours worked perfectly with school, I had a wonderful provider husband (he and I were making the same income before I quit). We made sacrifices but made it work.
I thank my husband and the almighty for those times I got to spend with my son!!!
My wife is a teacher too and she tells me the same thing
FACTS!!!!!! I’m a sitter and I been through this not even a month ago worked for the family 2yrs and watched the defiant behavior progress from 2 to 4yrs old I was disrespected my home disrespected other children disrespected and I hear you can’t expect kids to be perfect everyday there was many excuses made for the behavior and each excuse upset me more to the point I was shaking therapy is definitely needed but apparently the parent doesn’t think so. I could go on and on it pisses me off so bad
@@vivianjones9749 Just thank your husband. There is no “almighty”
Joe “I Practice Murder On a Daily Basis” Rogan
Barry B Benson “I just murder a punching bag or run up hills” 😂😂 I’m fucking done
That's a great line
*Y O U L I K E J A Z Z*
Shut up, 🅱️arry 🅱️ 🅱️enson.
Courtie Shay it’s funny every time
Fortunately raised a really good young man, and although I made my share of mistakes, the one thing I did right was spend a ton of time with him. He spent more time with me than he did with his friends, and I loved every moment of it.
“He’s fine don’t call the cops”.
Dumping body in nearby river.
Underrated
Liz Marian Torres seriously
@G H hydrochloric acid to be exact.
G H don’t use the bathtub doe
@@saturatedneowax ayyyy
The best part is there's a good chance the guy he's talking about has seen this.
Lmao which guy? 😂
Milo McCabe the coach who tf else
@@wallinggriffin multiple unknown guys getting fucked in the video though
@@wallinggriffin but yes ik it's the coach
Plot twist: its you
Joe to Security: "Everything is gonna be okay, he's just gonna choke him out."
I DIED. Hahahaha.
I hope he gets sued... im facing 3. felonies. for only. saying. something to. someone who wouldnt leave me alone... but dudes can get away with blood chokes? wtf tho
Carl James that wasn’t a blood choke lmao he put him to sleep because he was drunk and threatening them lol
OhLeahLRae call me gurl dayum
Same haha
“And then I took pictures with them.” Dead hahahaha
Yeah. I do find it ridiculous that normal people would be pushed or yelled at . But since they recognized joe, people have a habit of just saying it’s cool . Wait till this happens to you. You’ll be pissed if your facing felonies for some drunk that wouldn’t fuck off .
I remember once as a kid I was at a party where my parents and all the other adults were drinking. I stepped barefoot on a rusty nail, got it stuck in my foot, bleeding all over the place and went up to my drunk parents where were talking with the other adults and it took over a minute to get their attention. This is something I’ll never forget
My dad would get drunk and come after me and my brother with a BB gun. Every weekend. It just sucks I can’t say this in person to new people I meet to make them understand why I got some issues. But on the bright side my daughter lives a happy safe life.
@@billehbutcha6625 well don’t be edgy about it. Obviously you can’t go around yelling ur ducked up. Go to the proper place… and not every psychologist is the same. Sometimes finding the right therapist is it’s own damn trauma and journey too. Good luck to you fellow human
Maybe wear some shoes 🤷♂️ 😂
you see cocksuckers like this guy like to make jokes^ let the pain mold you better not break you. Fuck everyone that doesnt understand
@@billehbutcha6625 I’m sorry that happened to you. That’s awful.
The biggest problem is the “he didn’t/wouldn’t do that” parents. Parents who enable their kids and refuse to believe they would ever do anything wrong.
Yes, that's true. They forgot that everyone has a multilayer personality. Just because your child behave in front of you, doesn't mean she'll do the same behind. This type of parents think their child as an angel. Most of my friends (not all, of course) are doing this with their toddlers. They just let their kids running here and there causing havoc and then claim that those kids will never hurt other people.
Been there with those parents.. Im straight with them. No one likes me lol
"Your youngest stole my girls doll, and I watched her throw it in that dumpster. You need to attend to that."
"She wouldnt do that. No way she did that."
"Listen, *what possible good reason would I have to lie to you about your child?* I saw it happened. And thats why we are talking now"
I'm actually dealing with that right now. On my Church's band, there's a woman with a 8 year old who's been pretty roundy for 3 years.
Whenever he plays drums, his timing and beat is way too sped up and when we try to tell him to slow down, his mother tells us to leave him alone. It messes up the flow and whenever our Pastor plays with us she doesn't do any of that. Even after we play, the mother tells the son 'Don't go around the other members. They're jealous of your gifts.'
I remember one Sunday me and my cousin were setting up for service and the kid came in messing with the sound system. When we tried to move him away, he went to his mother and lied, telling her that we tried to choke him. Didn't even touch his neck.
Now we're finally bringing the issue up to our Pastor
I've seen both types. The "My little poopsykins wouldn't do that" and "I don't give a shit what my kid does, if he kills someone I don't care".
We have just a society with narcissism going rampant.
same problem with dogs
Ive been a lifeguard for 2 years now. The job should be renamed to toddler guard because we're basically baby sitters
I chose to swim independently as I got into teen years and etc but yeah its sad what society is
I'm glad you do something about it though. At a wavepool, a kid was struggling so they were on the edge of the wavepool. The lifeguard blew their whistle to tell the kid to get off. I know you can't hang on the edge but that's why you help them get off and take them to a part of the pool that they are safe in.
John Atanassov I was a lifeguard as well, if no parent is in the pool you’re free to kick the kid out. If theres a parent around you’re free to kick them both out for something as simple as the parent not watching their kid or the kid not following rules. You have a lot more power than you think!
Oh man. When I was a guard, it was very easy to spot the bad parents. They're on their phones ignoring their kids, occasionally looking up to smile at them, and then looking back down at the magical glowing rectangle. And these are the same people who wonder why their kids act out so much. smh
Same. I was in college and I can't even tell you how many kids I saved whole moms were reading 50 shades of gray and getting a tan. I also had to brake up a bunch of fights between siblings.
Soooooooooo many people have kids who are in no way ready or committed enough to raise them. Everyone wants to have kids and take cute pictures of them when they are babies/toddlers, but few consider the constant supervision and interaction necessary to raise them right.
They like the idea of kids but not the reality of them
They do the exact thing with dogs especially women
Kids having kids
@@ghost_of_jah5210 yes.. i know of a 17 year old who had a kid at 14. Now she is pregnant again.
@kevin pierson like, "yay for sex", right?-we ALL get that part. But geez...wrap it the fuck up gentlemen.
I was a store manager for 25 years with a major retailer. I really liked my career, even though at times it could be “retail hell”. Some of the worst times was with some of the “upper middle class non working, hubby makes a ton of money” moms. Super entitled attitudes that allowed their little spawns of Satan to tear the store apart while running and yelling down the aisles; like it was their own personal indoor playground, and me feeling forced to babysit while Mrs. Entitled turned a blind eye and deaf ear to the goings on. Dealing with that type of parent was an exercise in restraint from not slapping the moms and kicking the kids. You current and ex retail folks know exactly what I mean.
Don't you just wish you could print a photo of those people and tack them up in a front window "Banned from store for being a shit parent."
In costco canada the muslin mothers let their 7 year old sons run around and injured themselves from climbing and then the mom demands for a doctor in Canada. I laughed in her face , told her to go to front and ask for an ambulance or some first aid from the box
@@whathandleUtalkabtI’ve seen that. Ethnic moms with multiple children. In my mind, I’m thinking of the family as a zoo and the mom’s a zoo keeper. I should not have to put up with their wild kids.
work at a toy store rn, some of the people are insane.
Stop being like the parents yourself and blaming the kids. Kids are never to blame. It IS ALWAYS the fault of the parents and adults. You are part of the problem we have in society - a disdain and hatred for children.
Raising kids properly is not an easy Job. It’s a daily job.
"There is nothing I can do, my kid wont stop eating all the sugar I give him"
Road Man this is the most important part to understand, kids will take everything you give them, not just food.
I've tried nothing and I'm all out of ideas!
@@zach_bot8210 what do you mean?
@@thishandleistaken1011 Kids don't often have control to reject negative influences, it's the parents' job to prevent/minimise these and teach them to reject them.
Neglectful parents feed negative influences and it becomes the only thing these kids know.
Basically my parents when I was growing up
Spend time with your kids. If not they will be 18 before you know it and they will be gone. My shitty parents had me at 17. Hate my mom and sister, no communication. Talk to Dad on birthdays and major holidays. That is not a family. Every aspect of my life suffers from the trauma I still carry from no one giving a shit while I was growing up
Daniel Lion Yeah, same here. Divorced family, mom was bipolar so I lived with Dad. Dad got married to a Cali blonde and realized she was an idiot. He became disillusioned with his life and didn't participate in our lives at all.
Daniel Lion Know what that feels like. I have a shitty dad, but my bros (some) and sisters learned not to fuck up like he did. It happens and unfortunately we have to go through it. But I will be test in the future if I have kids, whether to be like my dad or be better.
USASPORTSCARDS man you just described my life
You doing ok man?
Same here. To the point where there's hardly food in the house. I'm so tired
I’m not one to feel sorry for myself, but I grew up in a really neglectful environment, as did my mum. Then breaking that cycle of behaviour has been the hardest thing ever.
Love your kids people - give them affection, guidance, be a great example to them. Take the time to listen to what they want to tell you, and try to answer their questions. I know it’s frustrating but it will pay off in the end. ✌🏻
My mom had a kid at 18 . Then had me at 32 worse mistake ever. Teen moms never grow up okay? She’s 58 now still the same. My older sibling been left the family. I’m stuck.
Just stop talking to her or talk ti her less, problem averted
Set the example. Be motivated, driven, and accomplish your goals. But first things first, clean your damn room.
@@SilverShadow02 Jordan Peterson is a godsend
Sounds like my mom. She has had been a mother figure in her life since the age of 8 or 12, basically her mom killed her self and she was stuck being the only daughter with 5 brothers. To this day she’s very self centered and childish on a lot of things and i cut ties with her after she yelled at my fiancé’s young sibling (8 y/o) about not paying attention and called him fat ass and stupid. when I confronted her and asked her why can’t she just see how happy my girl makes me and being that I was depressed for a while you’d think she’s shove her ego to the side and be happy for us. nope. she said how I’m ungrateful cuz she let me use her car when I moved out, (mainly complaining about how many miles I put on it, which is about 12K I’m over a years time, I live in miluwakee and would drive to Chicago to see her and other family)
Anyways we now hardly talk and although yeah I miss her and wish we could have a great relationship, she’s just too immature and stuck in this self centered mindset where it’s super toxic and I don’t have the deal with that, it’s the greatest feeling ever.
Test Account adversity makes you stronger
My father is a narcissist, he was highly abusive my whole life. After 36 years, I decided to go “no contact”. I told my mother, not to tell me when he’s dead, I won’t be attending his funeral.
I'm 17 , bet my father ,kicked the shit out of him now I'm alone and happy
You'll miss the chance to dance on his grave
SmashFinale - Yes, but if I delay my happiness until that date, I’ll have wasted my life too. I’ve already buried him, psychologically. I’ve accepted I’ll never have the opportunity to experience the love of a father, and all the positive flow on consequences that would have come with that. So I’ve said “goodbye” to what could have been, and accepted 100% what is.
Me neither. Mine is an alcoholic abusive piece of shit, my mom is the same minus the alcohol. Some people shouldn't be parents.
Donato Doley - I agree, My father is also an alcoholic.
How about a kid is at a small crowded park here in Philly just throwing a frisbee with disregard for children and adults. He almost hit me. He almost hit a few people. I take the kids frisbee and tell him he can't just throw the frisbee without looking at where it's going and if he does it again I will talk to his parent. Then the dad sees me and half walks over. "did he hit you?" he asks. I told him that his son almost hit a lot of people, but not intentionally. The father had been watching everything, by the way. He tells the son, "hey, watch it with the frisbee" then sits back down on a bench. The boy picks the frisbee up and hurls it vertically. I catch it before it hits someone. So I take action. I already talked to the dad. I already took the frisbee once. I look at the kid and say, "come over here and let me show you how to throw this". Then I proceed to teach him how to throw the frisbee the proper way, which is probably what he wanted to do with his dad in the first place. I did this for ten minutes while my kids played on the monkey bars. The dad still didn't get the message,. but I did what I had to do.
sea doo lol that's fucked up dude but you didake me laugh so I guess it's ok
i have a park next to my house, so many parents just sit there on their phones not playing with their kids
Gregory Everson google
NICE. SOME PEOPLE JUST DONT GET IT. WHEN THE KIDS GROWS UP AND IS TROUBLE THE PARENTS WONDER WHY. TIME FOR YOUR CHILDREN COSTS YOU NOTHING
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My dad was a drill sergeant. I have autism.
He literally thought making me homeless would cure my autism.
It makes me cry to think how many disabled kids are neglected.
sorry, man. hope you're doing well now.
@@bpaajcisna5595 im good now. Honestly, government programs to help autistic people are improving
Government programs for disabled americans are a good thing.
Prevention is the cure. Autism is hereditary. tell your old man that.
My partner is Autistic and I'm doing everything I can to give us a good life.
You don’t have autism. You’re fine & you want attention and validation. And you definitely are leaving out massive chunks of that “story”.
When a parent says "That never happens" almost 100% it happened.
My sister threw a house party with some friends, most of whom she met at a pregnant Mom's club or whatever, so they all had kids the same age (2). Everyone was kind of watching out for everyone's kids, but also socializing and drinking indoors and in the yard.
One kid just starts peeing all over the living room, and absolutely every single Mom pitches in to get him and the room cleaned up, EXCEPT the parents of the kid, who just stayed out in the yard. I think they even said something about this happening before, and then casually went on with their evenings.
They weren't invited to any more parties.
Wow drinking alcohol in the presence of a bunch of children?? 👏
MEanME this story is true, I was the piss
Yooo, I was the living room!
@@stickerlady1774 sadly alot of people
@@stickerlady1774 doesi t matter?
I once helped this little boy, maybe 3 or 4, who was lost on the beach. He was crying and following me, apparently the tide had carried him further down the beach than he should have been and he didn't know where he was. I was bringing him to the life guard when the guard met me half way and took him. Maybe an hour later I was walking on the beach and saw the boy again. His mom was asleep and her kids were running around unwatched. Great parenting, really safe. Your kid could have been dead or kidnapped and you don't even leave the beach after he's found. You fall asleep to let it happen again. Great.
You are an angel on Earth for that God Bless You!
Thats why we have child protective services, as much as (insecure) people hate it, luckily it IS illegal to make children and refuse to raise them.
Yknow i remember being in that situation when I was quite young. I believe it was a nice old lady who had helped me out. You never really think of these things as a kid but my mother and her boyfriends were not good parents. Not parents at all really.
Parenting needs to be a mandatory highschool class, too many people grow up never completely emotionally or mentally stable and a decent bit of it is fixable with relatively small changes in how one addresses parenting.
Never thought of that. That’s a really good idea. The reason society is becoming more and more hedonistic is because people children are being neglected rather than taught or disciplined. People are so unaware that without teaching the order to the youth the chaos arises.
Who gets to decide what is and what isn't good parenting?
@@ButterBallTheOpossum Fulfilling basic needs is a neutral one, emotional, physical and obviously nutrition. How to kickstart there learning.
@@ButterBallTheOpossum like I said relatively small changes, not "radically forcing all parents to use my ideals" as in "please don't do x,y and z and please do a, b and c if you want your child to grow up without long standing psychological issues"
@@ButterBallTheOpossum Exactly. With the stuff they're pushing in schools now, if they started a parenting class it would be about how to transition your 1 year old
I work in an elementary school with kids who need additional support and if people just tried harder at being parents and actually spent time teaching their kids the basics at home, the kids wouldn't have so much trouble in school.
While, it's no doubt that the weight gain and other funky physical feelings from the medication on top of the heartless bullying are creating an unpleasant experience for your little brother. But may I suggest that his change in personality could be from the fact that your little brother had a major existential experience.
Think about it, he had to face the reality of death at such a young age. Very few people ever even muse on death during adulthood. He must have some very deep thoughts and very confusing feelings over it. He needs to talk about that experience and sort out his thoughts over it. It takes a lot of work to be able to articulate them well for an adult, imagine how hard that is for a kid. The silver lining in this is that a difficult experience like that, at an early age, is the hallmark of brilliant artists, writers, poets, innovators, philosophers. A sketch book is a good place to start. Images can express things you can't put words to yet. Sketchbooks can also be used to record phrases which you can begin to piece together as the years go on. I had a very difficult childhood due to chronic health issues that led to severe bullying and chaotic family life, and I have stacks and stacks of notebooks, sketchbooks, photography albums. Life sucked, but I have turned it into an advantage.
Maybe schools the problem. Ever considered that? Then when they dont fit in they're labeled ADHD and handed a speed addiction from a trusted Dr.....
The blind leading the blind! SMH..
I do the same and I agree 100% with you. It takes patience and just time.
I used to work as a substitute teacher in government school and also as a tutor in tuition centres. I'm amazed to see that most parents expect their children to learn about everything just because they are being sent to school. And I'm also surprised to see that most of the teachers here (not all, of course) expect those students to be taught in one way system.
“People think they can have kids and also have careers.” So true. The stay at home mom is a dying thing and it’s absolutely tragic for our children.
Woah you are getting into some sexist territory(I’m just kidding I do agree with you)
My mom’s a stay at home mom and I’m so glad
100% agree with you... most people nowadays think housewife’s are a sexist thing but it’s 1000% beneficial for the kids and also for the father who might have a career
Cameron Fletcher it doesn’t necessarily have to be a stay at home mom. Women can have successful careers while the dad takes care of the children. Generally though it’s super beneficial for the kid to have a parent around majority of the time
Durjoy Maitra yep I agree... I just think it’s stupid that if a mom does decide to do that they shouldn’t be looked down on
"I didn't have a good childhood so for me its important to be a good dad" - Joe Rogan: If only everyone had a good IQ and morals
Dan0101010101010 Thats what I don’t quite understand. I would want better for my kids, I want them to grow up with a father and to have things I never had. How does this mindset become anything but the norm?
Ramb0 many people are selfish, including myself
I never had even a one minute conversation with either of my parents through 18 years under my father's roof. My father never touched me except to punish me.I can't remember even one hug from my mother. I do rememember her slapping my face and saying "you're hysterical" when i complained one time about my brother who bullied me for years , and told me once that every morning when he woke up he planned how he could ruin my day.
We lived in the middle of no where and for 6 years i never saw another child except at school.
All the kids there were german and related to each other and went to the same church. They had no interest in me. In 1970 i went to basic at fort Leonardwood, no one was there to say goodbye. I was surprised that other "trainees" got letters, i didn't.
5 years later i joined the Navy, also during the Vietnam war, because i was homeless and had nothing to eat. I was released about 14 months later with a diagnosis of schyzophrenia and sent to the same govt. hospital that an aunt of mine had spent her life in alone with the same disease. Some how my mother knew i was there and came and bitched about my father divorcing her and then left.
I never saw another family member again to this day. There's plenty more to my story of unbelievable suffering because no one in my family cared if i lived or died. But God cared and healed me instantly may 10 of 2017. Now,4 years later i am finally a human being again after 50 years of never knowing for sure what was going on around me. I'm beginning to live for the first time at age 70, but i may not live very long?
If there's one good thing in your life your much better off than millions of people with schyzophrenia who can't even comprehend let alone receive any warm feeling that we call love.
This is a late reply so maybe you’ll never read this but I just wanted to say that I’m really sorry that you had to go through all of this in your life but I’m glad that you’re glad that you finally have become a living person again and I hope you have more years to get to experience whatever it is that you never felt you did all this time before. Good luck, friend, I hope you can continue to find more in this world that helps you feel human and wanted. I struggle with feeling loved too and am also trying to do better!
Hi Daniel, thanks for sharing your experience. I am so sorry for what you had to go through. Nobody deserves that kind of treatment.
I hope you find peace in your life by really healing from those experiences. How is your experience with schizophrenia now? Would like to hear from you. It is all about love, and that is the fundamental of evolving as a person.
Thanks 🙏 for Sharing, You're a brave man indeed
I'm glad Joe rogan officially has clips like this now. so many people have been straight ripping and reuploading segments
you can think of it as bootleggers and pirates but i think of them as fans doing fans a service.
stride7860 you both make valid points...i prefer my freak bitch greeting tho
Joe Rogan said it himself, he doesnt mind people doing it because its free publicity.
JohnKing THANK YOU. Joe Rogan has specified he does not care about it.
it's better that joe is doing it now tho
I got reccomended a couple joe rogan clips, then i started watching the whole podcasts, now my entire youtube feed is down the j hole
The j hole is a fucking hilarious way to put it but it's accurate
Mungo Jerrymungo 😆😆😆😆😆😆
Godam.get a life
@@jordanrodriguez6412 no
That’s how we all started out. Now we are stuck and can’t get out but I’m happy here
Security guard having a mild celebrity crush moment while a guy gets choked to sleep.
My dad NEVER stood up for me and my brother so thank you for doing that for your son ❤
I didn´t know Ned Flanders was based on an actual person.
😂
🤣
Ned’s parents were neglectful hipsters, but Ned took a radical treatment which involved being spanked for a whole summer straight. The treatment was a success except for the fact that Ned was for the most part unable to display anger. Just a fun Simpsons fact
Ned kinda screwed his childrens social life tho
Looks more like millhouse tho
Joe "Everything's gonna be fine, he's just gonna choke him to sleep." Rogan
Biggest pet peeve is shitty parenting, you need to find that balance of being a friend and still guiding and disciplining them
No actually, you don't need to be your kids friend.
If not a friend, the parent needs to see that the child is a human being and not an object.
MOOD FM Child although I'm 21 haha
Blessed with great parents
Discipline the fucking shit out of em.
Seeing a bad parent is really frustrating. Why don’t you care about this thing you put life into. Why is it not your number 1 priority to cherish and make this thing better? What is wrong with people
Alot is wrong with people
Imagine being a teacher and having to deal with parents like that- who refuse to raise their kids and then deny that they are aggressive or have any problems. I’ve been called a liar many times when I was teaching and would call parents to let them know that their child received a detention or something. “He would never do that!”, “it’s your fault!”, etc. I’m so glad I quit teaching. LOVED my kids, hated the parents.
Call DCFS on any parent who’s shitty and never tell them it’s you
Don’t fuck around with these people
Oh I hear you…. Never understood why anyone would fight for their child’s limitations.
Baby I was married to a teacher for 14 years. Bless her heart and yours these parents are fucking idiots.
I always wanted to be a teacher the one thing that scared me were the parents….
I was a teacher and had a 5 year old student destroy the gym... I'm talking flipping tables and throwing scissors at myself and other teachers. Had to evacuate the rest of the kids out for their safety (not the first time this had happened and I'm sure not the last). The child never got suspended. The parents were threatening to sue, even though I documented and video recorded the massive tantrum as proof. All because the girl didn't want to do something with the rest of the class... She had options. But no, she decided to tear everything up and she knew she was going to get out of any responsibility... Because clearly she does that crap at home too. It was ridiculous. After 15 years of working with children and 10 years of working in education, I walked. These parents are nuts to allow this behavior to even happen in the first place at home. And yes, teachers judge the hell out of how parents parent... Or I should say, lack of parenting because they are cowards to give their progeny any kind of boundaries. It's pathetic. If you don't work in education, don't go into it. You'll thank yourself later.
I was out doing my job putting fliers on doors with my son because he wanted to help dad. My son took one side of the street because he wanted to try on his own & I was on the other & able to see my son. I noticed a 40ish old man talking to my son on the sidewalk & my son’s boys language told me it wasn’t friendly.
I hustled over to assess what was going on & the dude said “I have a no soliciting sign & he put your stuff on my door”. I apologized, saying it was a mistake & the guy’s voice elevated as we started to walk away. Now, being 6’3’, 225 lbs, half Irish with a lot of full contact under my belt, I turned with my game face on & said in a very level voice - “enough, you made your point”. Needless to say, he did a pretty quick about face.
I am excessively patient but when it comes to bullies, the patience gets dialed down & I draw a line.
"I practice murder on a daily basis...." 😂 True story of martial artists 😂
So true.
Except Steven Seagal ....
It’s not hard, almost everyone “practices” murder daily. If you drive a car you can murder a pedestrian walking across the street. Almost anything you do can result in an accidental murder.
This genuinely opened a lot of thoughts for me having a single mom that had to work and an army uncle who I looked up to, I can now call my dad at this stage of my life
nice. i had a single mom to. but no real male figure to look up to. now i am learning what is to be a good male role model for myself and others. on my own. self made man as they say. but i do thank my mom even if she had to work. she still made time fo rme. but she can't teach u everything
Tell it straight Joe!!! When my wife and I decided to have a child we decided one of us was ALWAYS going to be with her. We knew what we were getting into and sacrificed to have a family.
You'll have to give her some freedom at some point, whether you like it or not :p.
Making someone unconscious and not hurting them while they are passed out is a G move. He taught him an actual lesson
Every joe rogan video I watch I feel like I wanna be best friends with him.hahaha
I was on a vacation recently and the people next door in the resort had a kid that was about 6 or so, and he shouted and yelled at the parents, and basically treated his parents like garbage. I overheard the parents talking next to our shared wall with a connecting door that was locked (so easy to hear everything without trying and sitting anywhere in our room) and the mom was telling the dad he needs to do something about their son. His response “I’m on vacation.” The mom spent about an hour each morning and another each night “explaining” to the kid how he is not acting properly and should behave because there are “others staying at the resort” and the kid would just holler and scream at her. He seemed to be normal kid whenever we saw him outside in the public areas, so doubtful he had any medical issues as they ate at a table next to us one night and he seemed just like a regular kid then, and also when at the swimming pool. Whenever we’d run into them coming in/out of the rooms the mom would apologize for her kid. When you have kids and you take them with you anywhere, you are still a parent 1st. It took a lot of restraint to not chew the parents ass out, especially the slug of a dad. But I figured they’d have enough problems in a few more years as that kid will run wild over them because he basically already was.
Sounds like the mom is a married single parent. Kids need their dads.
Great podcast. Joe couldn't have said it any better. Parents shouldn't be having kids if they don't put the time and energy I'm raising them. Your kids are no one else's responsibility or problems but your own.
Joanne Wong Incorrect. Your kids are everybody's problem, but your responsibility. If you fuck up, it is the world that has to pay for it
@@joys8634 You're a fucking moron.
@@joys8634 Yes, children are only reserved for the wealthy.
@@lizmyers469 they should be. Why do poor people want to populate the earth? To make more poor people lol
@@lizmyers469: To be fair, if you know that you'll be struggling to be around to spend time with your child because you'll have to be working excessively just to keep them fed and housed, then maybe it isn't a very responsible thing to have one. Not that being wealthy is a sufficient condition in itself, but children are attention intensive.
Yeah, I am not having kids until I know I'm ready. I think I would be a decent dad, but not while I'm still trying to figure my shit out.
Im never having kids id be a terrible mother
I respect that
That’s how it’s supposed to be.
Now, your assignment is to find a woman who has your idea in mind.
I’m with you on this. I wish everyone shared this view on parenthood. Too many people have a kid just for the sake of it
If your aware you need to be a good parent, your ready. Its the shitty people who accidently have kids, and then don't raise them right.
I was told I'd never concieve so when I had my miracle at 35 I was so thrilled. My friends were always trying to get me to go out but it just wasn't fun when I just kept thinking about my son. I figured there would be time to party later. My husband had trouble adjusting but eventually he started to enjoy being a dad. He's grown, on his own, and I don't regret one minute I spent with him.
Cool story
I understand the mentality that parents should be present to raise their kids, rather than focusing solely on a career or recreation, but I had a mom that didn't work a day in her life. All she did was stay home and hover over my brother and I. This caused a lot of resentment in her which she usually took out on us. She had other issues too, like a traumatic childhood. But I think it's important to strike a balance between your own needs and raising your kid(s), otherwise it becomes unhealthy and creates a lot of negative energy that your kid is going to feel. Not saying it's easy, being a parent is probably one of the toughest things to do. But I think spending too much time worrying about your kids can be just as bad as not spending enough. Make the time you spend with them count and lead by example by taking care of your own needs too.
Yeah that's unfortunate that's why I think it's based to try to solve some of those internal problems before u have children and know your weakness and strengths
it's a balance. lots of ppl need to practice balance .
"Don't let your kids do anything that makes you not like them" - Jordan Peterson
Yep. These parents are worthless.
Nah... a shitty parent wouldn't care.
@72vince27 there’s more than one type of shitty parents. It’s like a spectrum dude
Shitty = shitty
@@72vince27 true. Jordon is just warning you BEFORE you become a parent
I actually learn a lot from watching these podcasts, it’s good to see two ppl conversing face to face about real problems
"I practice murder on a daily basis" lmao
Stoven Stephano well the outside world is shit so ur just protecting ur own reality
When are such parents going to realise the seriousness of not bringing their children up with decency & respect, it’s massive & effects the rest of their lives.
"All he does is (proceeds to explain a mortal kombat combo)"
There are many many people who should never have had kids--for many reasons--selfishness, irresponsibility, cluelessness/ignorance, addictions (alcohol, drugs, etc.). Unfortunately many people take "having children" as a given, just because they want them. And it's much more than just providing food/clothing/shelter/physical safety.
People really need to stop having kids.
especially with the how the world is today, having kids nowadays is just not smart.
No we don't, only the people that don't want children should stop.
Agreed! At least for a year. Or ten.
Ankur Mudugu
It’s difficult to love a child who probably has emotional issues because his/her biological parents abandoned him or her or lost them.
It’s tough.
Exactly!
there’s so many bad things about a parent being emotionally and physically abusive, but there’s also those type of parents who are in denial about their kid’s bad behavior. this type of parenting allows their children to think that they can truly get away with anything they do or so because their parents will be the first to protect them. i can feel joe’s anger when he talked about the dad and son situation, i have guy cousin who is now 18-19 and his outcome from his mom’s bad parenting is truly what i expected for it to be. everyone in my family dislikes him because he barely faced any consequences from harming others. he went as far as sa a younger cousin of mine and his mom still defended him and try to denied that he would never do such thing even though when he was in elementary school he would always annoy a girl he had a crush on (and yes the girl made multiple complains to school about his behavior and nothing was done about because of his mom) it’s bad parenting like this that boils my blood because all the awful things my cousin did to others could’ve been avoided if it wasn’t for him mother.
And in denial about their own behaviour
It's 11:42 PM. I'm 25 with no kids watching this...um thanks Joe Rogan 🤷🏽♂️
Carlos Yanes it is 11:42 PM where i am, i’m 15... um thanks Joe Rogan
Its 12:42 PM. Im 24, about to be 25 in 2 months with no kids. Um... thanks joe rogan 🤷🏽♂️.
11:23pm and feeling oddly connected to you guys
Carlos Yanes exact same only its 2:44am lol
It’s 11:42 PM. I’m 16 with no kids watching this...um thanks Joe Rogan🤷🏽♂️
this whole conversation is exactly why I can't help but feel like one parent should either not work or only work part time while their kids are really young sobthat can spend quality time with their kids and raise them properly, otherwise you turn your kids into little monsters raised by daycare and electronics before they even reach the age of 5...
Tyler Worsham when you have kids that one income can pay for, then you can talk.
Tyler Worsham I don't want to work less than 30 hrs a week. Luckily nurses have 3 day 12 hr work weeks. Hopefully I can make it work after I have kids. Part time is an option, stay at home slave is not.
Some of the most monstrous children were raised by a stay-at-home parent 🙄 career is not the factor here. Lots of parents send their kids to daycares even though they don’t need the childcare just so the kids learn basic life lessons and learn that not everyone will baby them. It’s choosing to spend your free time with your family and for the parents coordinating their schedules so the kids are not always with babysitters that makes the difference.
Lynnie Shaw I am sole provider at 25 for my wife and daughter. Is it easy? No. Is it possible? Yes. Good dads and Stay at home moms are two of our nations greatest assets.
Tyler Worsham how about just don't have kids at all. Some people are so used to be in relationships and dating, they just naturally have kids. It's been like that since probably the start of humanity.
*Joe* "Hes just goung to choke him out"
*security guard* "oh ok, can i get a pic bro?"
I never had kids but I have to say, if I did, I would spend TIME with them and discipline them. It HAS to be that way! Biggest things I'd teach? Respect, good manners, self-esteem and general politeness. I gush over a polite kid.
so true. same with me. about everything u said. i don't have kids yet. idk if i will. but i cant help but smile when a little kid has manners.
This guy looks like a wii character
The best part is there's a good chance the guy he's talking about has seen this.
If parents say "he is a good kid" that expression is just another way of saying "i am too lazy to discipline my child so you shouldn't too". If it was law i'd have smacked so many parents by the time i graduated out of high school.
I worked at the boys and girls club for a while and we pretty much had to raise some of those kids. Some kids would order their parents around when picked up, no respect. Because their parents don’t know how to discipline
My dad left when I was less then a year old so these parent podcast really hit different.
Never had one. I feel that.
Who's complaining. Suck a fat one. Why even comment if you're gonna be a complete piece of shit. This whole generation quick to talk shit online but silent in public lol. Talk that shit to your kids, not adults.
Nobody asked you troll.
There's a reason why your dad left you..
Your mom was a bitch
Brendon Owens I did
bully parents should be treated as we treat other types of child abusers.. they belong on a register and honestly would be best served living in a secure sheletered acommodation .. defeinitely should never be employed in management or government jobs
Hey Joe,
Thank you for validating the efforts of common folk trying to raise their children right and those who endure ridicule for such efforts. This little segment is a powerful tool!
A jamaican lady told me "Busy White people are terrible parents" 🤣🤣
So are busy black parents. Or asian parents. Or busy Zeta Reticulan parents.
@@Blexxor12 fuck those white parents in particular though
@@cjpccelerity29 why? Because they're white? You fucking ignorant swine
@@LastYear_IThink I think he was joking
@@LastYear_IThink he's being sarcastic to guy who took a funny quote to seriously. Grow up keyboard warrior 🤣👏
“Kitchen is closed” my mom said that all the time and I am SO grateful for that. Feel like I’m such a better person because of it
I don't know what I like the most about this one, Joe's fury about the topic or that he's right about it.
Love this podcast. Keep it up
Just all casually, “Relax, everything’s fine... He’s just gonna choke him to sleep.” 😂
Does he shave the surprised look into his eyebrows?
ROTFLMAO............
Ahahahaha true
philbelfrage Oh my god, I just realized ahahahhaha Can you imagine him on a funeral
"hey you're a real azzhole you know that?"
His eyebrows are illuminati
I think it is interesting how the discussion of poor parenting and how poor parenting affects the youth so rarely discusses it across socio-economic levels. Poor parenting is usually equated with a certain degree of poverty as well as a certain amount abuse in a clear context. The discussion doesn't often reach into the dangers of normality or forcing normality upon the child. When parents are ignorant or misguided themselves, and then transfer a highly skewed way of thought and feeling onto their kids.
Dallas VanLoozen a sentence in the middle of this confused me: are you saying you equate poverty to a certain degree of abuse? Or it's equated according to most?
Dallas VanLoozen tru
Dallas VanLoozen a rich parent can be shitty parents too.
Your point has no leg to stand on.
It seems as though it is equated in typical discourse.
Rich, poor, doesn't make a difference to the quality of parenting.
That’s one thing that seriously infuriates me, when you literally see something happen and someone looks you right in the face & says it didn’t happen 🤬
It's not your job to make your children happy, to make them your friend. Your job is to prepare them for life, teach them how to survive and provide for themselves, how to treat their fellow human beings, etc. If you do this well the bi-product will likely be that the child will be happy, and you will both like and respect one another.
Ryan Barnhart you should make your children happy so long as they don’t cross boundaries
The Young Investor - Personal Finance Happiness is fleeting. It's not your job to make them happy. It's the child's job to make themselves happy
You can do both. If you're really raising your kids right, they are going to be more happy as a byproduct.
Well...ok. I 100% agree parents are supposed to prepare their children for life. How many grown adults have we all met that can't do basic things, everyday things? If you can potty train your kid, you can teach them to use a fork and knife, and while your at it, teach how to cook basic meals so they aren't living off of cereal and frozen pizza. I believe in chores that are age appropriate, being responsible, learning to work and earn money.
My oldest is in college and a classmate asked her how to use the vending machine. Wth? It's also our job as parents not to raise kids that aren't a total mess and go out into the world one day and drive everyone nuts. But people who had unhappy childhoods are usually not great be around. Being happy as a child actually contributes to brain development. My kids all smile and giggle in their sleep when they're young. Well rounded development is important.
i'm about as non religious as one can be. in fact to say i'm not a fan of god is an understatement. that being said after hearing some radio interviews with Neale Donald Walsch i decided to read The Complete Conversations With God series. fucking amazing! highly recommend it. one of the topics discussed was parenting and how in evolved societies children are raised by the community as a whole, especially by the elders. granted, their entire set up is different than what we've created. anyway, it makes sense children will be raised better by a large group of elders. this doesn't mean the parents are cut off from the children or have zero input, but it does mean children are raised with a great awareness and realize there is more to the world than just what's in front of them. think about it. if humans took care of themselves, barring an accident or crime we could easily live past 100 and be basically healthy. a little slower physically with some aches and pains, but by and large functioning at a decent level. yet our most fertile ages are teens-30's. do you see the problem? most people reproducing haven't lived enough life to competently raise their offspring.
Everyone kept asking me and my wife when we planned to have kids as soon as we were married. I know I don't have the money space or time to raise a kid the way I think they should be raised. Theres also other friends around me having kids and they'll want their demon spawn to interact with my child, and I'm not having an ill raised spoiled child ruining my hard work.
Air Pusher you can be dirt poor and raise a good kid
SEA LEVEL CLAY I completely agree. And it also takes a village to raise a child. Parents, siblings, kids, kids friends parents, teachers etc. No parent raises a child on their own. That's bollox.
Angie jinx you need one other person
Air Pusher haha I can agree with the financial part. Just don't hang out around those people anymore when you have kids. Problem solved. Hahahahaha
Here, here!
Denial is very often an individual's reaction to avoid having to take responsibility. Not having to take responsibility absolves a parent of doing the very thing they'd rather avoid. Unfortunately for many people, not just parents, confrontation is uncomfortable, but if the difficult moments in life could be resolved by denying it and walking away, for some that is everything. Problem is, each and every time a parent avoids or ignores reprimanding their child they are only putting it off to become more complicated later. You reap what you sow or you get what you deserve. Whatever you put your time, talent and energy into is what you get back. You reap what you sow means you must eventually face the consequences of your actions.
Ignoring your children for your career is abusive parenting.
Age has nothing to do with it, you either want to parent or not, that simple.
I agree
@MEanME It actually is that simple. Wanting or not wanting to have a kid has nothing to do with being careless when having sex.
Idk, I’d say age makes a difference. I don’t want a kid right now, but I might want one later in life.
"never raised a kid before"
That was the humbling moment for me when my eldest was born. Realising my parents had no fucking clue what they were doing when they had me either"
"He's just gonna choke him to sleep" savage 😂😂💯
I had shitty parents. They didn't drink, they didn't beat me or abuse me in any way. They just didn't love me, and this fucked me up badly.
Its even more confusing when they say they love you with words but their actions show the opposite. When I think of all the money I have had to spend on therapy to try to correct their wrongs it makes me so mad that I can't sue them to get my money back :(
@apopuffkin1717 I feel you bro. From the outside my parents look so nice and supportive, but they are empty and violent in ways that nobody understand.
My parents have always refused to travel without my sister and I. Its amazing, once we were of legal age, we had to argue with them and convince to go on trips just the two of them. On the flip side, I have been a tennis coach since the age of 15 and at least 50% of the time I am babysitting these 6-9 years old. Their parents are on the tennis court with their eyes glued to their iphones. It's incredible how little some of these parents care
That was so sweet about your parents, that’s so lovely
My parents traveled everywhere with me and my sister too
Some great memories
This reminds me of when my granddaughter took swimming lessons and the adults would sit in a viewing area. There were two mothers that totally ignored their little daughters trying to show them things in the water and get their attention. It was beyond obvious the children were bothered to them
i had a shitty mom never knew my dad we grew up dirt poor and i mean dirt poor my goal in life is to give my son a better life then i had
RAIN MAYHEM same but I'm 15 and I know my dad he's just not around anymore
Taylor Napper don't mess up like i did when i was younger and commit crimes because you will have a hard time trying to get a job stay out of trouble finish school and remember to love yourself and never give up
RAIN MAYHEM I've took two steps down that road but thank God I didn't do anything that would mess me up like that so I found a better road now I'm working on my mentality thanks for caring
Taylor Napper any time
You had such a bad childhood you didn't even learn the difference between then and than. RIP
What's Tai Lopez doing talking about parenting
georgyorgy2 KNOWLEDGE.
georgyorgy2 After you got to the end of Tai's video, your kids is 17
“Here in my garage,just got a lamborghini”.
georgyorgy2 he probably bought parenting and had mentor parents that taught him how to pretend to teach other parents who want to teach their kids to grow up and teach their grandkids. It’s a very clear processes where you just need the mentors to tell you how they did it, and to explain how it won’t work for you, and then bam. It works.
Nah this is his cousin, Tri Lopez. He’s well known for his tribrows
My dad pulled a gun on me tonight. I'm a 54-year-old man visiting him with my son and all he does is scream and put us down. I told him that I'm not putting up with that and you have been doing this my entire life. he simply cannot take any criticism at all in any small manner, he went to get his gun after telling me "I need to be put down and shot"… Obviously we got the fuck out of there. But it just crystallized my life and why I've had so many screwups!
I don't think its that people think they CAN have a career and take care of kids, its that people HAVE to have a job/career in order to financially provide for a kid, even if both parents are still in the picture. 3 decades of wage stagnation will do that to a generation.
Thisold Hatte Superb comment, it's very difficult to raise a family on a single wage packet these days.
TheLastAngryMan01 i know people that raise kids on one salary not even double minimum wage. it can be done
Evan Becker I know people who do it too, but I wouldn't wish it on anyone, especially on the chicken feed minimum wage in many US states.
Thisold Hatte I agree with your sentiments, however I think the point is that on a macro level, the amount of children people are having should decrease because of the wage stagnation. People should make the decision not to have a kid, if they can't properly raise them.
USASPORTSCARDS It is a human drive to become a parent.
My parents fought constantly. Nearly every day. Anytime, anyplace, in front of anybody. This meant that they didn’t have time to deal with any problems that their kids were having. We couldn’t tell them anything because it would start a fight. I’m not sure how their kids became good, productive citizens.
That whole generation never knows when to stfu, they aren't reasonable people. My parents are advanced age and still act like children, it's inconceivable. Just sorry ass losers.
Joe's a very emotional guy that touches his inner feelings.
Being a parent appropriately takes work and genuine human caring, CONSISTENTLY! Consistency is the main ingredient