Forge welding with Filip Ponseele: The jump weld! (2020)
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- Опубликовано: 23 сен 2020
- Belgian Blacksmith Filip Ponseele demonstrates a jump weld using a Laffitte welding plate to join two pieces of mild steel.
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What a delight it is to watch someone who absolutely knows what he is doing compared to many on youtube who think or hope they are doing it correctly, and 'bodge' their way through. This gentleman is a superb teacher who inspires confidence in others to go and try some things, perhaps well outside their comfort zone. Thanks Joey for posting this and thank you Mr Ponseele for sharing your knowledge so freely. .... OG
Joey's old videos are what really got me interested in getting comfortable forge welding and pushing my limits. I'm now really confident forge welding where I used to be pretty much scared of it lol. Joey is the man when it comes to forge welds and he gets to meet and be with smithing masters that should go down in history as he should
You must be having a blast working with this man! He make things look easy and is having fun.
Serious when forging, joking when heating the iron That's the way my teacher did it.his name was Jef De Schutter. God bless him
@@filipponseele7346 you surprised me when you responded. Thanks for allowing Joey to show you techniques, these old style methods are quite interesting.
Beautiful work guys, you give such clear explanations, a joy to watch and learn
Fillip seems like a cool guy. Lol he sounds like he has a Yorkshire twang to his accent.
Great video. Well done.
These videos will be heavily referenced by me in the near future when i finally get to set up my own work shop and begin blacksmithing, i will most definitely be practicing these techniques.
Also i love hearing the differences in sounds of Joey's and Filip's hammering techniques
You don't have to have a shop set up to start shaping steel. Start today!
The sheer control, accuracy, and precision that this man has leaves me speechless. I'm just amazed. He makes this stuff look so easy.
Filip seems like a wonderful instructor. Stern when needed, but light-hearted and jovial otherwise. Great content, gentlemen. One day I’d love to learn from you in person. god bless.
Always welcome whereever you are on the globe
This welding series is superb. Absolute gold dust; the distilled knowledge of generations.
Super instructional series! It's as close to being there as I could get.
It's so fascinating to see a master of his craft make difficult things look so easy. You did a great job documenting the work and all the important steps and little tricks are so explained very good. Thank you Mr. Ponseele, I'm fascinated of your knowledge and craftsmanship and it's really special how freely you share it and thank you Joey, I hope your blacksmithjourney around the world will lead you even further than Belgium and will go on for years! All the best, Maximilian.
Another in a great series. I am really enjoying these lessons on Forge welding techniques. It would be great to see a video about Filip talking about his career as a blacksmith.
Type my name and you'll find some little films
Really like to hear more about this type of weld and when they are used in applications. Great series by the way.
I feel like this should be used to make a center punch
Back when anvils were still mostly made of multiple pieces forge welded together jump welding would be used to attach the horn. This is part of the reason some english anvil brands like "William foster" often have broken horns. The weld may be strong but it doesn't like shearing forces very much.
This is a great series, I like the way you work together and the humour.
I notice Filip is another lefty.
A lefty in the positive meaning of the word YES
@@filipponseele7346 Yes, in a very positive sense, I come from a family of lefties.
I think growing up and living in s mostly right handed world, makes left handed people more flexible and adaptable in their approach to life and skills.
Thank you both for the videos you make.
Its so amazing to see how to weld two pieces of metal togehter, without any welding machine.
Inspirational stuff, you make a hard job look easy. Love the humour too. Thank you so much for sharing this.👍
Again thank you for your willingness to share this with all of us. It is much appreciated very interesting to watch
These videos are fascinating! Thank you so much!
Awesome project!!! Loved the wonderful demonstration!
Awesome ! I am very much enjoying these videos !
Very good information about these different types of welds.
Very good teacher.
Absolutely fascinating to watch. Thank you for sharing with us mere mortals.
This welding series is great very educating.
Very high quality shooting and interesting content to me.
Detailed story, thanks -)
I subscribed to your channel - I have something to strive for and learn in my work!
Amazing work!
Great and interesting video, as always, thanks!
Charles Steinbach says keep up the great work need to see more
Well Experienced Master Master giving instructions are very effective. Really immortable experience with your Blessings. 💯🙏🙏🙏
Is it just me, or has blacksmithing become more popular in the last 5-10 years?
Very Nice Work
Very interesting! Do you know how common these welding plates were back then? Reminds me of flux with iron or steel filings in it. I guess the mesh could help with the initial grab. Is the rest just borax in some form?
I known from old blacksmiths it was very common but people could it expensive. However it's was mainly used when welding steel to wrought iron. For wrought iron to wrought iron it welded so good with sand(much cheaper) they did not use Lafitte. Lafitte was also used for welding the bands for the better quality horsedrawn vehicels wich were made of steel with clean rounded sides. Reparing springs and chisels that got to short. All fixed with Lafitte. Believe it or not but it remained for sale up to 1990(Spanish made) in a ferriershop in Belgium You had 10 plates for 25 euro with was not bad. I should have bought the lot but ???? Kind regards Filip.ps Always welcome
@@filipponseele7346 Thank you for enlighten me! I have never seen it before until Joey shared pictures of the different welds. You used "sure weld" to start with and in the end. Does that contain iron filings, and thus helps to blend the seam? Or was there another reason? Thanks again!
@@torbjornahman Yes it does.Iron Mountain is also very good. But i think inorder to preserve the skill of firewelding you need to teach the yong people first with sand and then when they master it learn them the other products. It's all about practice , not just a oneday fling..Fireweld every day and you will master it. Kind regards Blacksmith Filip Ponseele
ammonium chloride 10 percent of what remains of borax
melted and ground to a powder
I just realized that aside from being wells of knowledge in forging and metalwork, both you and Filip are trilingual (English, Dutch and French). Very Impressive! A lot more than most Engineers I know lol
german aswell so??? A git woch
Very nice.
So of course the Lafitte plate hasn't been made in years, as near as I can determine. I suspect the barb approach would work in its place rather nicely.
Barb approach?
@@attioc360 Yeah, check out Joey's T-Weld video, posted last week. He used barbs/teeth to forge weld mild steel, with his usual perfect results.
The face on the sledgehammer 😂
A gift from Julien Puy from France. A fine blacksmith and a good friend
Look him up on the web he is fine toolmaker
I love metal
Muy bonito trabajo y muy interesante. Felicidades 🙏👍👏🇲🇽
Grasias amigo Julio
This is beautifull
Altijd welkom hier te Knesselare-Belgie
Very nice~
Joey I hope you are listening .
I was told as an apprentice look listen and learn.
Manman mooi ⚒️🔥⚒️
very cool
I'd like to know what is in the old welding plates and how we might produce it .
Interesting how you avoid bouncing blows when welding.
fascinating
Magic hundred year old cloth .. pure alchemy I tell you.
A cause de vous deux j'ai passé la journée entre la forge et l'enclume a faire des tests de soudure. Avec de bon résultats.
Bientôt en vidéo 😊👍
Bravo et merci pour votre support
Moi j'aimerais tant essayer la forge mais je suis en appartement et nulle part où m'entraîner. Et avec un maître comme Filip ce serait le rêve. Mon cher compatriote avec la plus authentique moustache.
@@ademdogan7213 Tu peut venir forger chez moi . Cherchez mon adresse et vous serez le bien venue
@@filipponseele7346 un grand merci vous êtes trop gentil je vais y penser mais vous êtes à Bruges et moi a Fleurus j'essaye de m'arranger et je vous tient au courant et merci encore.
@@ademdogan7213 Non Knesselare entre Gand et Bruges
Oui, super la soudure, mais quel est ce futur objet ?
Génial! je voudrais trouver un maitre pareil !
This, welding plate is a curiosity. More info?
Almost as useful as this great demonstration would be some indication of where Sure Weld can be obtained in the UK? I can only find it in the US - and the seller doesn't ship to Europe!
Thanks for these excellent videos.
Hello, to find ureweld and Iron mountain flux try to contact Ferriershop Kerckaert-Temse Belgium. they might send you the stuff. Kind regards Blacksmith Filip Ponseele-Belgium
@@filipponseele7346 Thank you. I found the website, and the Iron Mountain flux, but I cannot find a hint of how to buy it! No shop, no 'buy now' button - very strange! (Or have I missed something).
www.kerckhaert.com/en/Products/Tools/Drilling-tapping/Welding-material.aspx?ProductID=5345666
@@andynick01 If you want me to buy some and send it to you. ?? No trouble. Wher e do you live in Britain? Kind regards Filip
Jump.. weld? How'd it get its name?
Jumping is another name for upsetting or hitting a bar along its long axis. When they strike the round bar, they're jumping it onto the flat bar.
If you don't heat the bars just right, the small piece will "jump" off the anvil and set your bear on fire. That's the word on the street, anyhow. ;)
Layfayette plate, oh boy, wish that was still available! Glued it together like witchcraft!
LAFITTE PLATE
yes indeed, ..... but glued together by a true metallurgical Wizard ;
That anvil really rings.
Magnet installed for the next time
It would drive me mad, I already have 50% hearing loss from a working life in coal mines. My main anvil [450lb] sits on a piece of synthetic rubber mine conveyor belting - the resulting drop in noise was amazing.
What is that flux? I'm confused. It was from an old blacksmith shop? Ive never seen actual swatches of flux before.
I will try to not be a miser when using sure weld
What was itthat he broke apart put between the weld
Laffite welding plate
He called it a lafitte plate. According to a superficial google search it appears to be flux, iron shavings, and wire
Thanks that intrigued me
@@fouledanchorforge5223 Yeah, he said it was made circa 1930. I just Googled it and it appears not to be available any more. Figures!
@@brysonalden5414 Shouldn't be too hard to make - heat up a mix of borax and iron filings until the borax melts, spread the mixture out thinly, let it cool and solidify.
@filip tu achètes des plaques de Laffite en Belgique ou bien c'est un vieux stock? @joey if u Can get a hand on some of those plates i was told that IS much easier to weld with it than flux !
C'est un vieux stock, il le dit à 5:30
Bien vu je l'avais pas entendu !
Congratulations from Bulgaria for the great video! My name is Stefan Chakov and I am from the caste of village blacksmiths and I work in the old way and I am interested in the old skills. Unfortunately, the Bulgarian masters do not want to show as you do and do not have a channel on RUclips. If you want you can contact me on Facebook. If you can send me personal information about the channels of other colleagues who work in the same way.
Thank you Stefan We need to preserve the old skills for the future. Kind regards Blacksmith Filip Ponseele
Yet another new process for me. And i thought(?) i knew a lot. Evidently NOT.
When you stop learning it means your dead
Joe I’m a bit curious, what do people like you and Philip do as a normal job when they’re not blacksmithing? Feel free to ignore me as this might be too personal for public consumption.
I work as a blacksmith
Filip Ponseele would it be possible to see some of your commercial work someplace online? I’m always looking for inspiration 👌
@@stevefarley7014 That would be telling right??
Filip Ponseele id be happy with that
I wonder. This makes the Lafitte seem easy to make. www.anvilfire.com/21st-century-blacksmithing/materials/lafitte-welding-plate/
Plaque à souder:
Borax
Maille de fil de fer
sel d'ammoniac
prussiate de potasse
Sorry, I only found that recipe in French and there is no proportion, sadly.
@@jide7765
google French to English translation.
Solder plate:
Borax
Wire mesh
ammonia salt
I believe this is "ammonium chloride"
potash prussiate I believe this is "Potassium ferrocyanide"
redrok
I looked up the patent of Laffitte welding plate. Very interesting.
patents.google.com/patent/US286311
I don't know how long it took you to find it, but thank you.
Its only the inexperienced that make all the racket bouncing the hammer off the anvil face for effect...
You have the rest of your life to be a jerk still. Why not take the day off?
What was that 1940 square piece that he put on? What was it supposed to do? What’s its purpose? Don’t understand that part what are you making?
Flux for welding.
It seems to be some kind of fabric containing flux, and perhaps fine iron filings. I think the purpose of it is to ensure the flux gets right into the mating faces of the weld, and importantly, remains there, even at welding heat, instead of running and dripping off into the fire. I have never come across a product like this, but would very much like to give it a try. Anyone out there know if this, or a similar product is still available to buy?
He called it a Laffitte welding plate or sheet. It was a patented sheet "composed of a preparation of calcined borax and iron filings, molded over a sheet of wire gauze. The gauze is about 15 meshes to the inch in length. The iron wire is low-carbon (0.08 %").
Amazing work!