I've heard it said that if one person says it's raining, and another says it's sunny, most journalists think their job is to print both opinions, when their ACTUAL job is to go outside and look up.
The reality is that they ONLY care about appealing to the largest majority people for financial reasons, not truth. Fear, hate and ignorance sells. It’s extremely easy to persecute minorities where the wider public are largely ignorant about. Profits above lives…..always.
It is hog wild to me that the actual George Lucas line, "This is how democracy dies--with thunderous applause," is actually a better description of rising authoritarianism than "Democracy Dies in Darkness."
Another fun trend is “fact checking the non-fascists: they said the fascist wanted to do a fascism, but actually, he backpedaled after he said that, so we rate this Pants on Fire”
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Yeah. Robert is more rugged looking than I expected. And I've always imagined Sophie as kind of severe looking since her days in the Culture Kings podcast.
Absolute banger of an episode, and a discussion that needs to be heard by all liberals. Not sure how many liberals will hear this but presumably some will.
@dylanrodrigues I'll just stop by to give you a tip: Behemoth, by Franz Neumann. It's a contemporary description of the third reich, extremely well written. However, it's NOT a smooth and easy read, so only bother with it if that's up your alley.
Episodes like this are why I love Robert. The way he subtly points out the parallels between now and then really gives me a history repeats itself feeling. Not to mention it seems he's always at his best when the topic is Weimar Germany.
Suggested readings: "blackshirts and reds" and "inventing reality" both by Michael Parenti for very in-depth looks at this issue, particularly the latter
Yay, someone mentioned the Arditi del popolo! (Yes, that's properly capitalized) They're a very interesting group, pretty much the first explicit anti-fascists. They took their name from the WWI elitle soldiers in the Italian army known as Arditi, literally "those who dare" because a fair number of them were veterans of that group. You all should look into them more! There's not much online that I've been able to find, but there's enough to get an idea of their efforts and story.
Send your suggestion to "cool people who did cool stuff" Thats really more Margret's cup of tea if she hasnt covered them already.. although I dont think her podcast is published on RUclips.
I literally discovered this podcast two days (I ran through the 6 part Liddy extravaganza 😂) before you guys announced you were going to video. Feels like I came in right on time. Amazing stuff. Keep up the incredible work
@@Phil9874 - I'll always be grateful for the 'non-video' episodes because I get to fall asleep listening to them without having to fixate upon Robert's handsome visage.
Check out the stuff around the Battle of Portland too. Good stuff to know about. Really, I think the whole menu is delectable, but I'm a dark kinda dude so there's that
@@SpoopySquid Yeah. I can't argue with that but at least they all seem to have moved on to better projects. I think Swain is back at cracked now and Dan O'Brien is at Last Week Tonight.
One headline from the (iirc 1930's) that I find particularly illustrative is from the American magazine 'Fortune' which read "The Wops Are Unwopping Themselves" in regard to Mussolini.
That vision is what FDR and the New Deal offered. It took the wind out of the sails of fascism and the like. A path forward without burning everything down.
...smedly butler was what took the wind out of their sales they were very much planning on overthrowing FDR in a coop he knew they were going to do this because they recruited him to lead it (and he told on them to congress after getting enough evidence)
34:10 - To add insult to injury, which was also added to insult: Palestinians can't vote in Israeli elections - not those in the "Autonomous Gaza", not those in the the West Bank, certainly no the Palestinians displaced and living in refugee camps in Egypt and Yemen Not even the Palestinians who live in Israel proper - they aren't considered to have "Israeli Citizenship" The Israelis living in any of the above *_do_* get to vote though It's literally in the laws that can be easily looked up on the Israeli government's websites
Weird seeing the voices in my head come to life. Suddenly, BTB isn’t the all-knowing narrator anymore-it’s just Robert. Honestly, that's probably an improvement, we can all be Robert
Holy shit! Seeing you talk is such a treat for some reason. I always have a hard time picturing you when I listen. Thanks for the visual confirmation of your humanity. Solidarity.
No Idea why the YT algorithm was like "you may like the Channel "Behind the Bastards"". But thanks algorithm, I guess. The only question I have is, why did it take so long to get this channel recommended.
Are you psychotic? The American mainstream media is overwhelming in its support of Harris. If you actually think they're for Trump you're either a dolt or deranged.
So good to see and hear Michael Swaim again! Always a favourite and his small beans yt channel is a fun time - the channel is a chaotic assortment of videos and there's absolute gold in there ✨ If it were a bit clearer on the thumbnails and focus of the content it would be more pleasing to The Algorithm, alas, but low view count is no indication of quality, go digging!
Hi behind the bastards crew, I was just listening to the second part of this series and you guys made a factual error that is incredibly important to correct. The quotes that you produced from Einstein about a vote for Nazism being a symptom was entirely correct and Robert was entirely incorrect in his commentary on it Einstein was in fact espousing the same view that Robert himself has exposed numerous times, that Nazism and fascism as a whole is not some unique thing but rather a consequence of what happens within broken systems. Einstein was commenting on how people voting for the Nazi party was indicative of these larger problems rather than the people just being anti-Semitic Robert has gone on Multi minute rants about distinguishing that the Nazis weren't just crazy Jew haters, that there is an underlying rationale that we can use to address the rise of fascism itself. Einstein was pointing out how voting for NSDAP wasn't just about anti-semitism, but was also about people who felt marginalized looking for something. Which is a fair assessment and I think it unfair to laugh at him as being entirely wrong.
Gosh I love this podcast, it saved me this is one of those moments we will look back into in history. No hyperbole thanks to the historian Sean Munger for recommending me to this podcast a year ago.
now that we are getting to see everyones lovely mugs, im desperate for a Michael Swaim and Dan O'Brien pairing. I have a feeling the episodes would be immaculate.
John Krasinski's sock twitter account trying to astroturf a hate campaign against Cody & Katy's Showdy is still the funniest shit to happen on the internet.
Ive seen a pic before and knew video was dangerous 😂 Luckily I've seen Michael's face on cracked already so I knew he's handsome. Sofie almost took me out tho. She's gorgeous! 😊
I like the art of the hosts. It implies that Robert is the bastard that Sophie is behind, but also that their dog is the biggest, baddest bastard that Robert is behind lol
it's weirder seeing the faces after watching so much cracked like 15 years ago and being like "oh, I know that person actually, he's the reason I ask people what ninja turtle they are"
At long last after about a year and a half, I have fully caught up on BtB and ICHH, wanted to give huge shoutouts for your work and providing me a lot more context about the world. Thanks for the hours of knowledge! Couple bastards I would love to see you cover. Julian Sinclair Smith/Sinclair Broadcast Group (especially given this episode about news media), Ryuho Okawa/Happy Science (the lesser known major Japanese Cult that tusseled with Aum Shinrikyo) and the South Sea Compnay the NFT/Crypto of the 1700s. Keep up the great work gang!
In that same decade the so-called newspaper of record published an opinion lambasting _the_ Robert Goddard for, get this, believing rockets could work in space. The actual quote is "Of course [Goddard] only seems to lack the knowledge ladled out daily in high schools." And they waited until the day _after_ the launch of Apollo 11 to issue a retraction, which (naturally) failed to mention the launch, or Goddard. The New York Times isn't worth the dog shit picked up with the pulp they print on.
Well you see, Hitler was very strongly supportive of the US' manifest destiny colonialism and their genocide of the indigenous native american peoples.
The only "change" is that now there's not an actual socialist/communist movement for them to attack, but they make one up in their heads and get angry about it anyway.
I cannot listen to someone talk about the early interwar period in Italy without singing the praises of Clara E. Mattei's recent book "The Capital Order: How Economists Invented Austerity and Paved the Way to Fascism." Give it a read; it is ground-breaking.
"I don't like flags. I'm not a flag guy," says Robert with an Angolan flag behind him XD I get what he's saying and I do agree -- I just found that funny. Love you guys
The reliance of Hindenburg in the 30’s to moderate Hitler is especially funny considering his role in the pseudo military dictatorship of Ludendorff in WW1
The fact this is only part 1 and already this feels like a 1 to 1 of where we are today is as tragic as it is hilarious. Lucas was right, it does rhyme.
I am an AP Research student who chose to research a topic concerning media linguistics and I would like to know more about this use of passive voice and how it was used to detract agency from the fascist police in Italy at the time, as was discussed at 24:41. Does anybody here know of any information sources concerning such affairs that I could check out? Thank you in advance
I've heard it said that if one person says it's raining, and another says it's sunny, most journalists think their job is to print both opinions, when their ACTUAL job is to go outside and look up.
Brilliant
The reality is that they ONLY care about appealing to the largest majority people for financial reasons, not truth. Fear, hate and ignorance sells. It’s extremely easy to persecute minorities where the wider public are largely ignorant about. Profits above lives…..always.
These days, newsrooms are so understaffed, it feels like they'll just report on the debate that's happening on twitter.
Their job doesn’t even require that much effort…they can just look out the window!
Fair and balanced
Can't help but chuckle at "anyway, here's ads" *stairs into the void for 3 seconds* "we're back!"
I miss the music, but it certainly is funny.
It is hog wild to me that the actual George Lucas line, "This is how democracy dies--with thunderous applause," is actually a better description of rising authoritarianism than "Democracy Dies in Darkness."
It's "Liberty" goddammit 😂😂😂😂😂
Why does everybody say it's Democracy when that wasn't Natalie Portman's line?
@@chazcmeekins83 Alliteration always wins
I hate fascism. It's coarse and rough and irritating and it gets everywhere.
@@chazcmeekins83 My bad, haven't seen the movie in like 15 years
@@Code_Dee I mean you're not wrong
“We can run the factories without them, but they cannot run the factories without us” (Eugene Debs)
Solidarity forever
These cops claim that I DO need the owners.
That quote is quickly becoming less relevant.
Note that the only flag Robert has in the studio, the Angolan one, has a machete on it.
im 99% that is the reason
ALL HAIL DER FLAPPY CLOFFS! (Wrong flappy cloffs need not apply)
@@meh3247 In Ireland we call them flegs. Fleggy fleg much important. No drape wrong fleggy fleg over wrong building. Make herd bovines fleg-sad.
What's funny is I now noticed the articles from certain media outlets outraged at the ridicule of fascists currently running for office
Another fun trend is “fact checking the non-fascists: they said the fascist wanted to do a fascism, but actually, he backpedaled after he said that, so we rate this Pants on Fire”
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Yes please
Agree.
I kinda miss the scrolling world map
they have a logo that isn't the youtube vault one?
done going forward
It’s always surreal actually seeing the faces of the people who I spend so many hours listening to.
Yeah. Robert is more rugged looking than I expected. And I've always imagined Sophie as kind of severe looking since her days in the Culture Kings podcast.
me, hearing "facism is flooding into Italy": i have some bad news about the current prime minister
"in the 1920's": oh, ok then
23:34 I love the implication here that if Michael does the ad pivot instead of Robert, he gets the money instead. All ads should work this way
As an avid fan of Cracked in its heyday I'm glad that Robert and Swain and Pargin are still in my life
Democracy dies at the disco is a hell of a tagline
But it dies wit hthunderous applause.
@@marocat4749 And thunderous bass.
There was a missed opportunity to have an ad break at 1:07:00 after quoting the newspaper statement that buying things would stop Hitler 😂
Absolute banger of an episode, and a discussion that needs to be heard by all liberals.
Not sure how many liberals will hear this but presumably some will.
Some will hear, few will listen.
hi
Lmao i love how im far left but can robble robble about libruls at the same time 😂😂 but realy though these goddam libruls 😐
@dylanrodrigues I'll just stop by to give you a tip: Behemoth, by Franz Neumann.
It's a contemporary description of the third reich, extremely well written. However, it's NOT a smooth and easy read, so only bother with it if that's up your alley.
Episodes like this are why I love Robert. The way he subtly points out the parallels between now and then really gives me a history repeats itself feeling. Not to mention it seems he's always at his best when the topic is Weimar Germany.
Suggested readings: "blackshirts and reds" and "inventing reality" both by Michael Parenti for very in-depth looks at this issue, particularly the latter
After years of listening to the pod, it’s nice to see the faces behind the voices.
“Go to hell, I love you” is my family's love language 🥰
That statement is waaaay more hilarious than I care to admit!! 🤣🤣🤣
Yay, someone mentioned the Arditi del popolo! (Yes, that's properly capitalized) They're a very interesting group, pretty much the first explicit anti-fascists. They took their name from the WWI elitle soldiers in the Italian army known as Arditi, literally "those who dare" because a fair number of them were veterans of that group. You all should look into them more! There's not much online that I've been able to find, but there's enough to get an idea of their efforts and story.
Send your suggestion to "cool people who did cool stuff"
Thats really more Margret's cup of tea if she hasnt covered them already.. although I dont think her podcast is published on RUclips.
@@AnonymousAnarchist2 I checked if she did once before, but I don't think she had yet. I'll go look again, thank you!
People who think corporately owned media can be objective should consider whether these for profit organizations might have skin in the game.
I literally discovered this podcast two days (I ran through the 6 part Liddy extravaganza 😂) before you guys announced you were going to video.
Feels like I came in right on time. Amazing stuff. Keep up the incredible work
honestly though would recommend listening to the non video episodes too though they are really good especially the henry kissinger episodes
@@Phil9874 😂 oh no, you’re 100% right. I’m halfway through the Kissinger now
@@Phil9874 - I'll always be grateful for the 'non-video' episodes because I get to fall asleep listening to them without having to fixate upon Robert's handsome visage.
Check out the stuff around the Battle of Portland too. Good stuff to know about. Really, I think the whole menu is delectable, but I'm a dark kinda dude so there's that
Apparently they're gonna do animated stuff for prior episodes. I'm on tenterhooks for The Well-Hung General Who Nearly Took Over China episode.
Great to see Michael again!
Maybe the most timely RUclips drop ever made.
Would've been timely any time in the last 55 years
"My feelings don't have a statute of limitations." 😂
Michael Swaim is one of my favorite Cracked allumnus.
Katies Stohl and Willert are tied for my favorite Cracked alumna.
Still mad at how dirty Cracked did them
@@SpoopySquid Yeah. I can't argue with that but at least they all seem to have moved on to better projects. I think Swain is back at cracked now and Dan O'Brien is at Last Week Tonight.
Wow, we’re really doing the same things, huh? Thank god the saying goes: those who refuse to learn from history are perfectly fine, actually.
One headline from the (iirc 1930's) that I find particularly illustrative is from the American magazine 'Fortune' which read "The Wops Are Unwopping Themselves" in regard to Mussolini.
That vision is what FDR and the New Deal offered. It took the wind out of the sails of fascism and the like. A path forward without burning everything down.
...smedly butler was what took the wind out of their sales they were very much planning on overthrowing FDR in a coop he knew they were going to do this because they recruited him to lead it (and he told on them to congress after getting enough evidence)
it expressly co-opted the socialists and simultaneously appeased the bankers
FDR, the New Deal, and all the SocDem programs in western Europe were all explicitly to reduce the power of the socialist and unionist movements.
34:10 - To add insult to injury, which was also added to insult:
Palestinians can't vote in Israeli elections - not those in the "Autonomous Gaza", not those in the the West Bank, certainly no the Palestinians displaced and living in refugee camps in Egypt and Yemen
Not even the Palestinians who live in Israel proper - they aren't considered to have "Israeli Citizenship"
The Israelis living in any of the above *_do_* get to vote though
It's literally in the laws that can be easily looked up on the Israeli government's websites
Not an apartheid! No,no,no, more of a sparkling oppression.
First time catching the "video" version of the podcast. Didn't realize Robert was such a fan of Angola 🇦🇴
Ah yes, pivot to video. I'm glad you two are in charge of it this time
Weird seeing the voices in my head come to life. Suddenly, BTB isn’t the all-knowing narrator anymore-it’s just Robert. Honestly, that's probably an improvement, we can all be Robert
I'm not 100% sure, but I think I got a WaPo ad in my Daily Zeitgeist feed a couple days ago that still used the "Democracy Dies in Darkness" slogan.
The Century of the Self is the documentary Michael mentions. And yes, it does appear available on RUclips
Holy shit! Seeing you talk is such a treat for some reason. I always have a hard time picturing you when I listen. Thanks for the visual confirmation of your humanity. Solidarity.
No Idea why the YT algorithm was like "you may like the Channel "Behind the Bastards"". But thanks algorithm, I guess. The only question I have is, why did it take so long to get this channel recommended.
My favorite guest! 😊
There's a HUGE difference between objectivity and truth.
Swaim?! THE Michael Swaim?! God damn I'm so in
I LOVE THIS SHOW ♥️
Wow, how long has this been video too? I still don't get why this amazing podcast doesn't have subscribers in the millions, keep up the great work
They have significantly more on spotify
The American media is so in the bag for Drumpf it isn't funny...
Are you psychotic? The American mainstream media is overwhelming in its support of Harris. If you actually think they're for Trump you're either a dolt or deranged.
They need him to be a thing. They need him to be a threat.
Trump sells ad space.
They have a financial interest in reporting every little thing about him
yeah this is one of the best BtBs ive listened to
How the hell am I not subscribed I've been listening to your work for like the past year. Love your stuff!
Almost forgot to listen. I was hypnotized by Sophie playing with Anderson.
So good to see and hear Michael Swaim again! Always a favourite and his small beans yt channel is a fun time - the channel is a chaotic assortment of videos and there's absolute gold in there ✨
If it were a bit clearer on the thumbnails and focus of the content it would be more pleasing to The Algorithm, alas, but low view count is no indication of quality, go digging!
i feel like if micheal swaim and leo vader had a conversation id have difficulty telling their voices apart
1:01:32 Yes! 💯. I was waiting for Dorothy Thompson to make an appearance!
Been listening on Apple for years, seeing Robert and Sophie’s faces is kinda blowing my mind right now 😂
Hi behind the bastards crew, I was just listening to the second part of this series and you guys made a factual error that is incredibly important to correct.
The quotes that you produced from Einstein about a vote for Nazism being a symptom was entirely correct and Robert was entirely incorrect in his commentary on it
Einstein was in fact espousing the same view that Robert himself has exposed numerous times, that Nazism and fascism as a whole is not some unique thing but rather a consequence of what happens within broken systems. Einstein was commenting on how people voting for the Nazi party was indicative of these larger problems rather than the people just being anti-Semitic
Robert has gone on Multi minute rants about distinguishing that the Nazis weren't just crazy Jew haters, that there is an underlying rationale that we can use to address the rise of fascism itself. Einstein was pointing out how voting for NSDAP wasn't just about anti-semitism, but was also about people who felt marginalized looking for something. Which is a fair assessment and I think it unfair to laugh at him as being entirely wrong.
It`s exactly the same with Trump today.
Great content here! 🎉
Yay, Michael Swaim! Oh no, fascism!
I have never related to robert as much as when michael asked him if he wore shoes and brought a machete to oxford
the unclap-synced audio is creating a schism in my tism
Gosh I love this podcast, it saved me this is one of those moments we will look back into in history. No hyperbole thanks to the historian Sean Munger for recommending me to this podcast a year ago.
now that we are getting to see everyones lovely mugs, im desperate for a Michael Swaim and Dan O'Brien pairing. I have a feeling the episodes would be immaculate.
I can't tell if this is a joke or not?
John Krasinski's sock twitter account trying to astroturf a hate campaign against Cody & Katy's Showdy is still the funniest shit to happen on the internet.
not to derail from the fantastic podcast, but my god robert is so handsome, in a roman coin, tom hardy kind of way, its very distracting
i mean he is of Italian decent so that checks out
Ive seen a pic before and knew video was dangerous 😂
Luckily I've seen Michael's face on cracked already so I knew he's handsome. Sofie almost took me out tho. She's gorgeous! 😊
This is nice, like the new format guys!
Hey, FYI. The "high road" and the "low road" go to the same place. One of the parties knows that already.
Swaim is such a legend. haven't even watched the first 2 mins, just wanted to say that 😂
Thanks for what you do
Already can't wait for part 2
Kinda want to see the full conspiracy board.
Thank you for going to video.
- A visual learner
I like the art of the hosts. It implies that Robert is the bastard that Sophie is behind, but also that their dog is the biggest, baddest bastard that Robert is behind lol
"Who's a good bastard? Who's a good bastard?"
WHATS NOT AT ALL GOING TO REMIND OF MODERN DAY AMERICA MY THIS EPISOOOOOOOODE
Truly pivoted to video once again
it's weirder seeing the faces after watching so much cracked like 15 years ago and being like "oh, I know that person actually, he's the reason I ask people what ninja turtle they are"
At long last after about a year and a half, I have fully caught up on BtB and ICHH, wanted to give huge shoutouts for your work and providing me a lot more context about the world. Thanks for the hours of knowledge!
Couple bastards I would love to see you cover. Julian Sinclair Smith/Sinclair Broadcast Group (especially given this episode about news media), Ryuho Okawa/Happy Science (the lesser known major Japanese Cult that tusseled with Aum Shinrikyo) and the South Sea Compnay the NFT/Crypto of the 1700s.
Keep up the great work gang!
New York Times from December 21, 1924: "Hitler Tamed by Prison."
Yeah, they've always sucked.
In that same decade the so-called newspaper of record published an opinion lambasting _the_ Robert Goddard for, get this, believing rockets could work in space. The actual quote is "Of course [Goddard] only seems to lack the knowledge ladled out daily in high schools."
And they waited until the day _after_ the launch of Apollo 11 to issue a retraction, which (naturally) failed to mention the launch, or Goddard.
The New York Times isn't worth the dog shit picked up with the pulp they print on.
Well you see, Hitler was very strongly supportive of the US' manifest destiny colonialism and their genocide of the indigenous native american peoples.
I'm in Utah, I'll save my scrapings for you.
Love your work.
Weird how nothing ever changes
somethings change but people forget humans have forgotten a lot in the past 10,000 years. probably more than will ever know
The only "change" is that now there's not an actual socialist/communist movement for them to attack, but they make one up in their heads and get angry about it anyway.
I cannot listen to someone talk about the early interwar period in Italy without singing the praises of Clara E. Mattei's recent book "The Capital Order: How Economists Invented Austerity and Paved the Way to Fascism." Give it a read; it is ground-breaking.
You can't put lithium in the water because that's the thing I drink to dilute the lithium already in my system.
Also, the explosive chemical reaction.
If that's the case then they should add it back into Mountain Dew instead. It's more targeted too.
Mr Vance, take a seat. Not the love seat.
i love these filmed versions
my favorite part is sophie
Ay. Your audio is slightly desynced and it's distracting to look at.
I appreciate the ep, though. Well-written as always.
As the brilliant poet "The Faceless" said, "there is no truth, only perception... breeeeeeee 😈 "
"I don't like flags. I'm not a flag guy," says Robert with an Angolan flag behind him XD
I get what he's saying and I do agree -- I just found that funny. Love you guys
All the BTB transition sounds being missing hurts my soul lol
*taps at a snare drum poorly* sorry, not really my kind of musical instrument. Hope this helps.
The reliance of Hindenburg in the 30’s to moderate Hitler is especially funny considering his role in the pseudo military dictatorship of Ludendorff in WW1
This is the first BTB that I see with video. It’s a bit of an adjustment coming from the red splash screen.
Whoa whoa there's video?! (I've been gone a few months)
How long is she gonna make that poor dog jump?
is that a goose with a gun on your jacket? not only is that totally on brand, but it's accurate for the goose as well.
I cant believe they included the Logitech POS controller from the murder sub
Never seen Robert in person.
The fact this is only part 1 and already this feels like a 1 to 1 of where we are today is as tragic as it is hilarious. Lucas was right, it does rhyme.
Single
Women
Always
Insist on
Michael
Can anyone tell what Sophie's hat says? I think it's mirrored, because it's hurting my brain to try to read it.
Just wanted to point out that this episode calls him Michael *Swain* on every platform it's posted to.
Time really is a flat circle huh
I am an AP Research student who chose to research a topic concerning media linguistics and I would like to know more about this use of passive voice and how it was used to detract agency from the fascist police in Italy at the time, as was discussed at 24:41. Does anybody here know of any information sources concerning such affairs that I could check out?
Thank you in advance
This just in, reporters say they think reporting is necessary for the functioning of society!
Next week, we'll interview philosophers.
Man, I'm so used to seeing the amplitude visualisation...
Ben Elton, in his book Gridlock, does an interesting analysis of vibes...
That dolphin was trying to make a mermaid, is all.
1:04:57 why not put the actual comic on the screen? is that not the whole point of doing a video version of the podcast?