What's interesting is that it's theoretically possible that the hogwarts legacy protagonist is still alive during the first and second wizarding wars. Assuming you were a 5th year and therefore 16 in 1890 they'd only be around 124 in 1998. I'd assume though being a keeper that they'd remain in the shadows.
I suspect that "accidental" magic is related to ancient magic. Something that is systematically suppressed by the Ministry of magic by ensuring everyone capable of magic learns the proper application of magic.
It sounds to me like Witches and Wizards naturally, unconsciously, shy away from Ancient Magic, in favor of Modern Magic, because Ancient Magic "happens independently of efforts by wizards", representing a degree of control that a wizard must relinquish, and simply trust in the magic, or in other words, "take a leap of faith". Perhaps Ancient Magic is more closely tied to spiritualism and faith, where Modern Magic is more closely tied to life and the physical world? Unless a wizard is firmly in control of themselves, they may not be able to fully relax, and "go with the flow", and trust their instincts enough to make use of Ancient Magic.
I actually had a thought on an unrelated topic. I the Goblet of Fire, it’s known Krouch Jr. used polyjuice potion to pass himself off as Moody. As a result, I have a question: Would there had been detrimental effects, like addiction to polyjuice? Or maybe, after time, being unable to properly revert back to your original form?
A fanfiction called HPMOR explains the loss of ancient magic by the interdict of Merlin. This interdict states that powerful magic can only be taught from one living mind to another. This way, powerful magic cannot be learned by simply reading ancient books or scrolls. I personally really like this explenation. Based on Merlin's interdict, HPMOR also goes into why the chamber of secrets is actually called the chamber of 'secrets'. Slitherin circomvented Merlin's interdict by teaching his lore to a basilisk, which could then go on to teach Slitherin's heirs after is own demise.
It's an older, more primal magic. It's just not something humans naturally tune in to. In extremis, Lily Potter and Molly Weasley managed it, which passed down some ability to their offspring (possibly even before the event - it doesn't care about details like time). Dumbledore succeeded partially with his link to Fawkes. Hagrid could do it with his links to various creatures. Dobby knew it innately. The only human with a natural aptitude for it was Tom Riddle. Harry acquired an ability for it thanks to his links to his mother and Voldemort.
So, ancient magick is chaos magick. Got it. So, is there any real evidence that Lily was fully aware she was casting an ancient protection charm? And, if yes, where'd she acquire the knowledge?
You seem to make it like having a genie granting wishes. So this means magic goes to the path of least resistance to achieve a goal. Reminds of the monkey paw.
I know you're not a Tolkien-based channel, but this Ancient Magic we have here sounds rather reminiscent of the magic seen in the Lord of the Rings and the Hobbit. A primordial force of nature that only the chosen few who know how it works, still wield its might.
i think what hogwarts legacy should do is have the main character become a teacher to teach Albus Dumbledore to harness anciant magic after Dumbledores 5th year then in the series of Harry Potter, Harry Potter witnessed Dumbledore use a weird form of magic and Harry Potter asks Dumbledore about it and Dumbledore points to a picture of the main character of Hogwarts legacy and says in my youth i was trained by a powerful ancient magic user who trained me to wield and harness that power and thats how i battled Voldemort and Harry Potter asks can you teach me Dumbledore asks Harry if he can see swirls on the ground and if he can see a blue light when he sees goblin silver and if Harry says no sir then Dumbledore says sorry Harry i can't i can't teach what isn't inside you but if Harry says yes then Dumbledore will say then yes i will find someone to teach you when you finish your years at Hogwarts
Ancient magic is tied to the natural world. The changes in society and the practices of people has been detrimental to the discovery, understanding and use of it. Therefore it has become more dangerous due to this lack of knowledge and understanding. The magic is also rather emotionally and spiritually sensitive and will lash out as a result of being hurt. Thus making it dangerous for this reason too.
I don't think they left it behind. They don't even know how to use it. The ancient powers aren't something you just use. It happens naturally. Things like a mother lifting a car off her baby are these old powers. Even muggles can use the ancient powers. The ancient powers choose to use the person rather than the person choosing to be used.
canon or not doesnt hogwarts legacy kinda hint at and explain why its not well known most of what u said it what the game kinda hinted at and why its more dangerous due to the lack of understanding it as a whole. The unpredictability of it is just the start of it from what i seen
When you speak of ancient magic you are entering the esoteric foundations of the universe itself which humans have pushed aside. The fear we all have is that there might be more to the subject than "ancient forces" to which we are all subject. Here we are forced to consider religion though we may not want to. The wizarding HP world and HPT see things in a very materialistic way where things are easily explained.
Wait a second 🤔🤔🤔 ghoul studies? One of my ex house mates had a degree in that, but then she chopped her bits off, cut her hair, grew a weird beard and becamd a ghoul wifh neon hair.
🦁🦁🦁🦁🦁🦁🦁🦁🦁🦁🦁🦁554 Ancient Magic touches the roots of life itself. It is like our relationship with God. We know he is there but how many have actually seen him. Do our prayers really work or do we just say that they do. Magic is related to creation, we have been created, but are we really rooted to creation? We are wizards but are we really rooted to magic?
What exactly about it isn’t canon? It follows source material better than The Cursed Child ever did. If anything it adds to the lore even more and builds the world quite a bit more.
Where is it ever stated that's it's not Canon? That's a matter of opinion really. Considering it doesn't break any Cannon and infact only adds ton to the lore why should it not be considered cannon?
I think trewlawny's prophecies (and all others) is probably the clearest example
I would love to chat theory with you sometime. Is there a way? I think I may be able to give you some ideas on content and things to cover.
What's interesting is that it's theoretically possible that the hogwarts legacy protagonist is still alive during the first and second wizarding wars. Assuming you were a 5th year and therefore 16 in 1890 they'd only be around 124 in 1998. I'd assume though being a keeper that they'd remain in the shadows.
It's not entirely impossible, Dumbledore was 115 when he died in 1997.
I suspect that "accidental" magic is related to ancient magic. Something that is systematically suppressed by the Ministry of magic by ensuring everyone capable of magic learns the proper application of magic.
It sounds to me like Witches and Wizards naturally, unconsciously, shy away from Ancient Magic, in favor of Modern Magic, because Ancient Magic "happens independently of efforts by wizards", representing a degree of control that a wizard must relinquish, and simply trust in the magic, or in other words, "take a leap of faith".
Perhaps Ancient Magic is more closely tied to spiritualism and faith, where Modern Magic is more closely tied to life and the physical world?
Unless a wizard is firmly in control of themselves, they may not be able to fully relax, and "go with the flow", and trust their instincts enough to make use of Ancient Magic.
So like the difference between true gamic and magecraft in the Nasu verse?
@@chriscormac231 I'm sorry, I'm unfamiliar with that universe.
I actually had a thought on an unrelated topic. I the Goblet of Fire, it’s known Krouch Jr. used polyjuice potion to pass himself off as Moody. As a result, I have a question: Would there had been detrimental effects, like addiction to polyjuice? Or maybe, after time, being unable to properly revert back to your original form?
A fanfiction called HPMOR explains the loss of ancient magic by the interdict of Merlin. This interdict states that powerful magic can only be taught from one living mind to another. This way, powerful magic cannot be learned by simply reading ancient books or scrolls. I personally really like this explenation.
Based on Merlin's interdict, HPMOR also goes into why the chamber of secrets is actually called the chamber of 'secrets'. Slitherin circomvented Merlin's interdict by teaching his lore to a basilisk, which could then go on to teach Slitherin's heirs after is own demise.
If they didn't die by simply looking at it.
@@mattt233how did Slithering not die looking at the beast? Did Tom Riddle not die cause he's a horcrux?
The real powerful ancient magic is the friends we make along the way uwu
Ok Dumbledore
That's the ancient power of cringe 😂😂😂
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I don't have friends. I have family.
@@banthatracks_gaffisticksNice try, Dom.
It's an older, more primal magic. It's just not something humans naturally tune in to. In extremis, Lily Potter and Molly Weasley managed it, which passed down some ability to their offspring (possibly even before the event - it doesn't care about details like time). Dumbledore succeeded partially with his link to Fawkes. Hagrid could do it with his links to various creatures. Dobby knew it innately. The only human with a natural aptitude for it was Tom Riddle. Harry acquired an ability for it thanks to his links to his mother and Voldemort.
So, ancient magick is chaos magick. Got it. So, is there any real evidence that Lily was fully aware she was casting an ancient protection charm? And, if yes, where'd she acquire the knowledge?
She found her knowledge in the library, much like Hermione.
I definitely have more questions
Go on!
Awesome as always thanks ❤
There was probably an ancient magic chapter in the Divination curiculum. Nothing else in that class worked so ancient maguc would have fit right in
Friends come and go, magic and the devotion to it are the most precious gifts of life, but it can save your soul, or take it away ❤️♍️🗝🧙🏻♂️
You seem to make it like having a genie granting wishes. So this means magic goes to the path of least resistance to achieve a goal. Reminds of the monkey paw.
I know you're not a Tolkien-based channel, but this Ancient Magic we have here sounds rather reminiscent of the magic seen in the Lord of the Rings and the Hobbit. A primordial force of nature that only the chosen few who know how it works, still wield its might.
So, ancient magic is basically "instinct magic" and probably developed in ancient wizardkind as a survival method.
i think what hogwarts legacy should do is have the main character become a teacher to teach Albus Dumbledore to harness anciant magic after Dumbledores 5th year then in the series of Harry Potter, Harry Potter witnessed Dumbledore use a weird form of magic and Harry Potter asks Dumbledore about it and Dumbledore points to a picture of the main character of Hogwarts legacy and says in my youth i was trained by a powerful ancient magic user who trained me to wield and harness that power and thats how i battled Voldemort and Harry Potter asks can you teach me Dumbledore asks Harry if he can see swirls on the ground and if he can see a blue light when he sees goblin silver and if Harry says no sir then Dumbledore says sorry Harry i can't i can't teach what isn't inside you but if Harry says yes then Dumbledore will say then yes i will find someone to teach you when you finish your years at Hogwarts
Ancient magic is tied to the natural world. The changes in society and the practices of people has been detrimental to the discovery, understanding and use of it. Therefore it has become more dangerous due to this lack of knowledge and understanding. The magic is also rather emotionally and spiritually sensitive and will lash out as a result of being hurt. Thus making it dangerous for this reason too.
I don't think they left it behind. They don't even know how to use it. The ancient powers aren't something you just use. It happens naturally. Things like a mother lifting a car off her baby are these old powers. Even muggles can use the ancient powers. The ancient powers choose to use the person rather than the person choosing to be used.
canon or not doesnt hogwarts legacy kinda hint at and explain why its not well known most of what u said it what the game kinda hinted at and why its more dangerous due to the lack of understanding it as a whole. The unpredictability of it is just the start of it from what i seen
When you speak of ancient magic you are entering the esoteric foundations of the universe itself which humans have pushed aside. The fear we all have is that there might be more to the subject than "ancient forces" to which we are all subject. Here we are forced to consider religion though we may not want to. The wizarding HP world and HPT see things in a very materialistic way where things are easily explained.
Wait a second 🤔🤔🤔 ghoul studies? One of my ex house mates had a degree in that, but then she chopped her bits off, cut her hair, grew a weird beard and becamd a ghoul wifh neon hair.
Takes away life energy. Actually, it is the cost of casting a spell. Not just spam magic like normal
Thank you ❤️
It’s just like antiquity history compared to history in a learning sense . The newer one gets the focus
Sort of, not really
I am sorry but I have missed three months of your content. Still tying two come up to speed. Ps 70 years old brought up kids on hp.
Who use it?
🦁🦁🦁🦁🦁🦁🦁🦁🦁🦁🦁🦁554 Ancient Magic touches the roots of life itself. It is like our relationship with God. We know he is there but how many have actually seen him. Do our prayers really work or do we just say that they do. Magic is related to creation, we have been created, but are we really rooted to creation? We are wizards but are we really rooted to magic?
Ancient magic was used in the Merlin series, right?
Hogwarts Legacy RPG
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Are Gods present in Harry Potter?
Or they figured out how to use wands its too hard to do .
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Bro you repeat yourself wayyyyy too much, it’s not doing you any favors
It might have just gotten fed up with misuse and decided nobody else could knowingly use it.
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Grow up
@@persee8134 jealous 😂
@@ImTheBatmann Jealous or looking like a fool? Sure bud
@@persee8134 projection is a thing you could go over in therapy. Might be about time for that in your life
No. No no no no no. Hogwarts legacy is not canon.
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What exactly about it isn’t canon? It follows source material better than The Cursed Child ever did. If anything it adds to the lore even more and builds the world quite a bit more.
@@travisvanalst4698 The Cursed Child is garbage.
Where is it ever stated that's it's not Canon? That's a matter of opinion really. Considering it doesn't break any Cannon and infact only adds ton to the lore why should it not be considered cannon?