Lucid Air Review | A Tesla Owner's Perspective
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We need Sandy Munro to teardown the Lucid Air and compare it to the Tesla. Also, it "seems" that Rivian has the best quality between these three brands.
Thanks for the review, Ryan. 🙂👍 It's an excellent first product, and the slightly rough edges should be sorted out with time and customer feedback.
I'd be very impressed if they made a RHD version, for sale in Britain, and the other lands who drive on the left side of roads. They have a combined population of around 2 billion people.
how quickly did the battery go down while using the radio and phone? Love the look but what was the real range while using the accessories ? Thanks.
Can you charge Lucid or Tesla with solar powered generators?
I love Tesla but it’s refreshing to see an unbiased review for another company. Awesome video.
Hahaha i despise all EV’s Lol
I don't own a Tesla or even have an EV on my radar. i just wanted to compliment you on a detailed review about the car without any unnecessary flair. Straight to the point.
The Lucid Air is a beautiful car! Now with Tesla price increase on the Model S the price of the Lucid Air isn't out of range
Well yeah, it's nice to be rich.... I think I'll just get 7 Hyundai IONIQ-5's for $175k.... or just one and have $150k left over. lol
A comprehensive review. My Grand touring Air was delivered in early Sept 2022---I am glad to report that the issues reported in the above review are no longer an issue---Having driven approximately 4700 miles sine since then---no rattling or creaking in the vehicle and the blind spot delay not a delay. Love the vehicle.
When I heard Peter Rawlinson was in charge thought Lucid will be good he's a good engineer. Amazing car. Thank you great review 👍 👏 😀
Lucid launched the sapphire edition as well which is 1200 hp! insane!
I feel like this channel needs to be the poster child for how many other new channels covering similar topics should proceed.
His content is always jam-packed and to the point/with zero fluff.
Ryan’s channel has also grown significantly over the past year alone. It’s clear this is what the people want.
But majority of his stuff is Tesla so it doesn't really work when most other car or even just EV channels aren't looking at one brand.
@@Red3yeX really? Most "EV" channels talk mostly about Tesla or how it "destroys" the competition. Channels that didn't start as EV channels however don't
@@bandvitromania9642 I think you should look at other channels.
@@MrStian78 i do and mostly i stumble upon Tesla channels and then i also find good channels
I really love the Lucid Air, what a fantastic vehicle! Can't wait for the Gravity SUV from Lucid to come out, it also looks awesome!
Exactly ! And Lucid Air ''Jut Sighed a Huge Deal with Panasonic For Battery supplies . Panasonic is Building a Big Factory in Kansas US !
I really like this showcase of other EVs, would love to see more of these!
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Ryan, Pull over! This is the grammar police. At 21:40, The Lucid doesn't drive "...as good as the Tesla...", it drives as '...well as the Tesla.' (It's a good job, well done not a well job good done.) And incidentally, you've done a good job of comparing and contrasting the Lucid & the Tesla. My only nit to pick is I would suggest when you're pointing to various items, describe and say what you're pointing at. Example; The 3 distinct zones of the dashboard you could describe as; Left, Middle & Right. And one last comment: Car reviews are notorious for colorful & descriptive language to convey the emotive aspects of the car. Your auditory style comes across like you're a Preachers' Son. Please, keep up the good work!
Great job!!!!!
Thank you so much for letting me check out the car!
Our boy Rettinger loaning out his uber whip for the good of the cause 🤛
so both of you are living in Irvine, CA?
Good review.
The Dream edition cars were similar to a "Founders Series" and are no longer being made. Those first edition cars do seem to have more little issues with trim and squeaks. The Air GT (same features but 'only' 800hp) I received about a month ago is flawless and dead silent other than the low-speed motor sound that I too find quite appealing.
A major feature not mentioned is the ridiculously fast charging speed. Plugging in at 10-15% I get 22 miles per minute, adds 200 miles faster than a restroom break and buying a soda for the road.
I got an OTA update last night that supposedly improves the nav and addresses a number of bugs. Hopefully it launches more quickly [EDIT: "Hopefully the *software* launches more quickly..." The car itself launches dramatically, almost painfully quickly] because that can be pretty slow. The car will drive before the big screen is loaded so if you have to hop in and go, that works.
Cool. How much did you pay and how much warranty does it have?
@@cosettapessa6417 I paid 139kUSD plus prep and shipping (they detail it and delivered to my door). Price went up for later orders and a more powerful version came out since then. Prices today range from 87kUSD to 180kUSD.
Warranty for everything is for 4 years and 50,000 miles. After that the battery and motor units are covered for a total of 8 years or 100,000 miles.
The car goes on sale in Europe later this year. Price and warrantee will likely be different there.
Production will be slow until the factory expansion is finished. construction is ongoing (see "BearsWorkshop" on RUclips to see that), but pre-ordered cars are shipping today. Sold out until mid-2023.
See LucidMotors dotcom for some cool configuration tools and graphics and to see more details. "Lucid Motors" RUclips channel also has lots of great info, including race footage and a couple detailed Tech Talk videos covering batteries and design.
@@Miata822 thx
Hey Ryan, agree on all accounts. I have Tesla Y, X Plaid, and S plaid. And I got a new Lucid 2 weeks ago Grand Touring. Great a luxurious car, software needs a lot of work. Simple things that continually bog down software-wise. I feel like they need to do a lot of work to make this an enjoyable car tech-wise. It is fast and a great car to drive, but for the cost, this is not there.
Why do you need four cars?
are you going to short lucid? well, it already dropped so much so the potential gain is getting less and less.
It's a nice car don't get me wrong, the software needs a lot of work so comparing it to Tesla is not fair in that regard.
What do you do for work?
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From my perspective, this car has so many buttons, knobs, and switches, I believe it is a great example of the antithesis of what Elon has stated is optimal design; the best part is no part. Or broken down to the core principle, so often heard, it would be the KISS acronym. Well done review. Thank you.
Buttons, knobs and switches are universally far more practical and simple to use. Never understood Elon's marketing claims of "optimal design" when it's merely removing practicality for the sake of aesthetic design.
Polestar has sold over 55,000 Polestar 2 cars to date - more than Lucid and Rivian. Polestar plans to produce 290,000 cars by 2025. Polestar 3 should be as popular as Tesla's Model Y. Polestar 2 has a $7500 EV tax credit advantage over Tesla and GM. $5 a gallon in the USA should be great news for EV manufacturers and also for EV stocks. Looking forward to the Polestar merger vote on 22nd June. Happy to be a Polestar GGPI & TSLA & LCID & CHPT investor.
I recently saw a few polestar in person and was very. ... unimpressed. They are small and look like Honda civics. If they are cheap, they should do well though
Yeah the big boys are getting in the game…if lucid doesn’t get some sales their done 😯
I made a reservation for the pure version a while back before they raised the price for 10k. After tax credit that one is like 70k. That puts it in an interesting spot. Range is a tad better than base model s, is only RWD and is much slower, but it's 30k cheaper and does not force one to use a yoke. I do think with the recent price increase the lucid loses much of its competitiveness though. But it is always good to have alternatives and the deposits are fully refundable
I did the same thing following the exact logic you used. A luxury EV with 400 miles of range for $70k is not bad. I’m a big Tesla fan having owned three Model Ys. The Air Pure model seems to be a solid value.
@@timothyhowes I also placed my order in for air pure before price increase. It’s a solid value under 70k. Currently I drive 2021 model 3 SR
Great review Ryan! Way out of my price range but beautiful car that seems fun to drive.
Getting my model 3 this week after a long wait
Congrats
Congratulations ! Give me a ride i will offer 1 kilowatt
I like it just not a huge fan of the updated 1990s Ford Taurus styling.
Love that you are looking at other cars besides Tesla. You’re a great reviewer. Can’t wait to hear your thoughts on other EVs like the Ioniq 5
Better to stick with the luxury EVs. That does not include Ioniq 5.
Ioniq5 is trash
Ioniq 5 is not available in Virginia.
@@geemy9675 Exactly. It is Tesla plus luxury EVs 😉 he is a Tesla fanboy in any case.
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Ryan, really enjoyed your review. You kept it moving from one area to another without getting into the minutia. Am waiting for my Air Touring and going to test drive next weekend. Thanks again for helping me prepare for the car!
One quick comment about front trunk (frunk): I understand the benefit of electric operating frunk, there is a condition to improve first. I own a Tesla Y. My real
need would be the possibility to cool the frunk. In the summer or heat it in the winter. Did you ever check the temperature in the frunk on a hot sunny summer day with the Octovalve HVAC running full speed? And let’s not forget the plug to drain water when using it as an ice box ;)
Specs and interior are awesome. Exterior styling is underwhelming. Looks like a futuristic Buick.
I like the exterior personally. Much more than a Y
Agreed. It looks like Grandpa’s old buick.
Just as a disclaimer, the Lucid Air Pure which is starting production Q4, will not be 2 toned. The exterior chassis will be one color all around, other than accents.
Finally a review with someone who doesn’t sound annoying, speaks on details that would affect u in real world, and o we all gives a good review
I have the Air Touring on order and am on the interest list for the upcoming Gravity. My estimated delivery for my Air Touring is December 2022. The Gravity is estimated for the 2024 model year and has yet to start taking deposits. I am very excited about my Air Touring order in Zenith Red with the Tahoe interior.
To me the EQS interior is way over done and the Model S interior is a bit too spartan, thus the Air interior is just right.
It is great to see you review another EV, especially one that could be the one Tesla owners would like to see in details!
Great review! Thank you for sharing! 🔌⚡🚘
Try Tidal with Dolby Atmos, that should sound much better than Spotify
I've broken a windshield on almost vehicle I've ever owned and sometimes multiple. I wonder what the windshield that also includes the roof costs? (New video idea) I guess if you have to ask, you shouldn't be buying a $169,000 car.
Considering that model X widescreen replacement costs about 900 bucks, it should be about the same?
@@B4R0N. seriously ? The windshield on my Prius cost $1100, and it’s on its 4th one. Thank God for insurance with a 0$ deductible 🙂
The windshield for a Tesla Model X is $1311 for the windshield, $1597 installed.
"Widescreen" has nothing to do with the windshield. "Widescreen" is the 17" landscape mode computer screen Tesla introduced early 2021 as opposed to the portrait mode they used before that.
@@B4R0N. 900 for this lucid air? You high? You probably have to buy it directly from lucid it's easily over $1500
I agree the power frunk is the most annoying thing.
All the Tesla idiots on Reddit claimed the frunk is not powered due to legal reasons which obviously isn’t true.
I hope to own a Lucid car some day. I love the design
"This (Lucid Air) will appeal to a certain crowd." One might add "with a heck-ton of money..."
100k more than my MYP ---- GOOD LUCK
Tesla needs to ad a regular steering wheel option
That alone is opening the door for Lucid Air to take a nice chunk of market share
Love the yoke steering wheel on my Model S. Whenever I have to drive another car with a normal wheel feels outdated and unattractive. Owned it 6 months but was use to it fairly quickly. The turn signals for me was the biggest point of adaption but was use to it after a long drive home. The yoke is square at the bottom so turning was no big deal.
I love this panoramic windshield (like the Tesla X) but I wonder why they did not design a sun visor that can be clipped on the pilar for clean 100% view? I miss this on my Tesla Y :(
Somehow in my small town in Michigan I’ve seen a Rivian R1T multiple and just yesterday I saw a Hummer EV
Great review, Model Y Perf owner here and love every bit of my car no issues after 2yrs of driving it daily. With that being said I'm glad there's competition but for this price, if I'm going outside of Tesla and their superior supercharging network I'd opt for the Porsche Taycan all day.
Curious why you'd go for Taycan. Any positive differentiator in particular? The range seemed low for what you pay and not sure about their charging network.
@@almercy better integration of the software and hardware, Lucid's is known to lag. Better driving characteristics and much better design in my opinion. I'm also sure the customer service is top notch compared to Lucid at this point.
@@Howtoeverythingeverywhere Range?
@@GudieveNing range is a non issue for me over 250 and as it stands my model Y's real world is around 230-250miles on a charge and with Superchargers all over I haven't had any anxiety issues. That's of course personal preference and needs b/c my kids regardless of range can't sit for more than 1-1.5hrs of drive time so stopping is a necessity.
I don’t actually need the electronic adjustable seats (manual works fine for me), massage chair, electronic controlled front trunk or retractable touch screen, what I need is a cheaper ev tbh, only then I can afford to consider ev as one of the option for my next car.
Thanks so much for the video on another EV, especially one competing with a Tesla! I'm a dedicated Tesla owner though I know a few people interested in the Lucid. I'm trying to convince them to go for a Plaid instead. 😃
Genius 👍
I like Tesla overall but I would not convince anyone to Tesla for I would just answer questions and concerns then allow them to make the decision for themselves. Regardless of what they chose at the end, it’s something they want free of any pressure from someone so be a true friend and allow them to make the decision instead free from your little hints.
@@Turbo6019 At the end of the day, it's their choice to choose whatever car they want but I am close enough to these people to state my opinion without harm to the relationships. And for now, I'm a cheerleader for the Tesla!
Tesla, just to boring. Waiting for what Jaguar bring out in 2025
I rented a Hertz Model Y long range. I have a few thoughts about it for sure. Overall, it's a good car I think.
You cant fix slow or lagging screens with software, it's chip driven, and would require great chips to begin with. If anything software updates will just make evrything slower, and sluggish, not faster and crisp. Thus the advantage of Tesla chips with Nvidia, they are future proof for what they do.
Software can be optimized to improve performance. The use of scripting tools like LUA are great for writing UI software quickly, but performance can be bad. The Nvidia chips you talk about are used for the image processing for the self driving functions.
18:25 Need to superimpose on the windshield the visuals from when the Millennium Falcon or Enterprise 1701 hit hyperspace / warp speed.
Fantastic review. Beautiful car and I do hope Lucid get more into the market
"A few more physical controls than the average electric car these days."
I'm sold.
Did the car only have Spotify to check out the sound system? Spotify only offers lossy, compressed audio (for the moment) so not really a good gauge for testing. Was there a USB slot to test your own lossless/hi res digital files? Or the offer from any of Tidal, Apple Music, Amazon Music Unlimited? I thought the Lucid Air was supposed to have Dolby Atmos? (again not available on Spotify).
remember comparing to tesla software is not equitable. the customers that are getting the lucid air are mercedes, audi, bmw, lexus, porsche, and jaguar drivers that are focussed on a luxury car with incredible performance, handling, and range. software gets better with OTA updates. not a knock on tesla, they changed the game, just a point to make. good review though!
Apparently they're moving the infotainment from a VM to native, which should help a lot with the lag. I've never figured out what chip powers it though.
I think Lucid, Mercedes, Porsche and Audi should form their own charging network for premium cars. Tesla was a success because E.Musk had business acumen and saw a charging network as a competitive moat. I’m just don’t see that with Lucid CEO and CTO
Awesome, I'm a Tesla owner myself but I hope Lucid becomes successful. Competition is always good for consumers.
Also, the Tesla software was also very laggy when the first cars were released. Try out an old Model S and you'll aee 😓
There’s lots of competition already and been for the past 10 years.
@@Brian-jv8iy For Tesla? That’s publicly known? I could ask 10 random people on the street who Tesla competitors are and they wouldn’t have a clue.
Definitely enjoy seeing fair evaluation of other EV’s while not simply banging them because they are different. I still favor the Tesla but would not turn down a LUCID.
Great review. Awesome car. Good on that person to let you borrow their new car!
Come on Tesla, give us overhead view and solve my rim rash issues!
The software will get better with OTA's I'm sure. With the massive windshield I can't imagine how expensive/difficult getting that replaced will be.
Competition! Aaaahhh The growth has been amazing. Hopefully things will get better and better. I am all for advancement. I need an affordable form of transportation. Preferably a car of some sort. Don't need a lot of complications. Just practical, affordable, reliable transportation. I also think that public transportation needs to be developed. Like high speed rail. Why are we so far behind?
I just had my windshield cracked in my Mach-e and it will cost $1500 to replace! I just can’t even imagined how much this one will cost!
Dang, $150k for the 520mi range version. I thought a $40k car is expensive. Welp guess I'll just have to settle for my economy class car.
Great points you have covered in your video! Hope they will improve their software very soon and focus more on the Dream Drive that does nothing now other than adaptive cruise and parking!
Dose the lucid have an all around camera? That's what I really like about tesla it basically has one of the best security systems thay works flawlessly as long as it catches a license or something.
I've given some serious thought to mixng my Techno stuff in the Tesla. The stereo in Teslas was a big draw for me. Definitely, the best I've heard.
More lucid reviews please 😁 need more video other than Tesla.
2 serious things wrong. one: the trunk should be a lift back with larger opening. The opening is extremely narrow. two: the nav doesn't show SC/EV network.
this car is simply amazing
One thing about that lucid, with all those moving parts, you know those moving blinds and center console is going to break eventually. that's one nice thing about the tesla, 5- 8 years from now there really isn't any moving parts in the cabin to break. I have an 8 year old minivan and even the vent shutters are breaking, fuel door etc. Anything that movmes will break. Imagine that repair bill from a company like that.
one thing about Tesla is that, based on its build quality, even less moving parts, it will break much earlier, some even broke before delivery------I am model 3 owner
You don’t have to navigate to a menu to adjust the temp in any Tesla - the buttons are always visible on the screen
I don't like Teslas as cars. As technological achievements they are excellent, but as cars they don't work for me. The Lucid Air however, that's a whole different ball game. I really like it.
edit: As far as build quality issues go, Tesla has had 10+ years to get Model S right. Lucid just came out. I'm sure they will iron out the kinks pretty swiftly.
You're comparing this to a $40K model 3 and a model S that is $40K less than it. This thing better be king of the road for the price.
It is King of the Road
He compared it to a Plaid Model S
Thank you for this video. Are you able to do a night video? Keen to see the interior lighting at work.
This is a dumb question but bear in mind I drive a 20 year old truck: are the creaks just more obvious in EVs because there's no engine noise?
That is definitely a contributing factor, but from my experience, it’s not the only thing at play
Yeah that’s also a part of reason EVs have specific tires as well because road noise is more apparent
What of your best videos to date. By far. Keep it coming !
Thanks for your details review. It's cool.
One question, Is the camera recording like tesla for car accident record using?
I have a model 3 and totally fine with the center screen.
My understanding is Toyota has some new battery tech. I'll be watching closely to see what EVs Lexus brings to the market.
The amount of times you had to say 'feels premium', which is all good and well, but I am not in the market for premium, and I think for the specs that matter to me I wish more new start-ups would focus on bringing the price down while maintaining good specs, I don't care about massaging chairs, or the stitching and styling, too many are copying the Tesla playbook, start with premium and then eventually try to make more afforable models, I think this is why Chinese brands will make inroads, and take over large market segments, we have enough luxury brands now.
I don't understand all the excitement about seat, mirror, and steering wheel adjustments. In every vehicle I have with auto settings I have exactly adjusted the controls once. A bunch of adjustment options are useless, set and forget is all that's needed.
lol I think thats a problem with a lot of cars. The only complaint my father in law had about his new chevy astro was the interior build quality.
From a looks perspective the wheel axle distance (I don't know the technical term), and the drop down into the car (looks low to the ground like a sports car or Mazda Miata). I am assuming this is all for a specific purpose, but it does take a hit in looks for both of these.
That being said, I love the look of the car and have 1 reserved. Thanks!
I like the option of physical or touchscreen controls: with Tesla’s virtually all touchscreen model it’s very difficult for right-handers to find and touch the small icons with the left hand even when stationary let alone bouncing around. (I live in a RHD country.)
Biggest deal breaker 2+ Model Y LR's for the price of this. I get it that new companies will have costlier cars, but 160K...................that's crazy town.
This guy does a good job, nice video!
after seeing the apple car-play presentation it seems that apple will have very few customers (oem's) that will have the computer engineering in their cars to take advantage of apple's u.i. and reliability and ecosystem but Lucid might be one of the few that would be able to work with apple to make their cars u.i. more attractive and useable. Lucid seems to have put a lot of thought into some unique and complex u.i. design choices that give the user a pretty smooth experience. this Lucid interface seems to require some pretty sophisticated computer engineers. i would not say that for most of the other EV'S made by the ice oem's that are attempting to make electric cars which means apple play will likely not offer all of its promised experience for say a chevy volt or a mustang mach-e or vw ev. just basing this on watching their own presentations of each of their own ev's and online reviews. I just don't see the ice oem's being able to find enough people to build a team of computer engineers that can integrate the platform needed to make apple=play work as promised so there will be , imo, just the newer ev manufacturer's and chinese companies that can offer apple car play the way it was promised. Lucid seems to be one of the few that may be able to offer the platform needed to give the owner a realistic choice to use apple-car play in some imagined future. i also imagine that android will build a similar competing product and it remains to be seen if tesla will improve their u.i. and sell that to others too... but i think if a car can use an outside interface that apples will end up being the smoothest if they are able to integrate it into a car as the software demands. just a thought inspired by watching the screens on this lucid.
Im buying one of this for sure!
Want. Please bring this lovely to the UK. I could drive from JOG to LA.
I’m not sure if I heard you correctly but I believe you said this vehicle was $169,000+, there’s nothing about this car that screams it’s worth this kind of money. I think it’s actually unattractive, this company might want to rethink this Ludicrously high price for a car that looks no better then a Toyota Avalon.
I’ve never heard of an 1,100 hp Toyota Avalon.
@@TecnamTwin I was referring to the looks of this vehicle not the performance!
1111 hp and 520 mile and luxury and technology and ev ,, and it look like Toyota Avalon for you !!
I don't think any trucks should be electronically actuated, except maybe massive hatches. Im amazed someone wouldn't use the front trunk (or any trunk) because they are too lazy to click a manual release. Actuators are always slow, and more prone to failure than a simple mechanical release. I find it weird that you see that as a pro and want more vehicles to have that.
That screen(s), the bottom you have to look down too far and top screen small. Love the range. Tesla is wrong about needing more range but probably looking to get more vehicles out so won't increase range except CT because of towing.
a lot of nice looking BEV out there...but the experience, charging infrastructure, and software that set Tesla apart from all others.
honesty I rarely use my front trunk because of the way to open it... not as easy as the back one...
for sure theres $$$ option to add a sensor+powered fronk but $$$
I like the new Buick Regal! I mean Lucid Air. Needs some work, but not bad for a 1st gen offering from a startup.
Excellent review. I really think that your way of doing it is very applaudable. Well done 👍 BR, Per (Denmark)
I really hope Lucid and Rivian are successful.
The EV market is getting more and more competitive every year as other European and Asian brands increase their EV model releases. Tesla is still on the edge of value vs. the Mercedes, Porsche & BMWs of the world, and can edge out the rest with the supercharger network. I don't know how you can justify Lucid's value proposition vs. the new BMW iX and the Porsche Taycan. Longest range is one thing (for an insane 200K+ price), but range means nothing with no guaranteed network of fast chargers for road trips (which range at this point is the only factor for, commuting can be done with any premium range these days and a 14-50 charge at home)
I hated my tesla s but wow this car is next level, thou was not out when I sold my s for a polestar 1
What didn’t you like about your S? I went for a test drive in a Polestar 2 the other day. Superb! Excellent infotainment system too. Driver display was UX done right. Only neg was touch screen HVAC controls. I want knobs!
I think version 2 of 3 will be nicer. Feels like design needs refinement.. more minimalism in the interior needed. It's a turn off to have dumb software though
More minimalism for me means less software. Having physical controls already is a dealbreaker vs the Tesla. the best car for me would have no rattles and close to nothing software. I already get too much software at work and on my cell phone, I don't want it also in my car. I want a car with no central screen at all.
I would rather NOT have an air suspension...but:
Isn't it ironic that a Tesla Model S has one, but the Lucid AIR does not?
12:52 $170,000?!?! Pressing the large silver button on the dash instantly navigates you to the nearest Child-For-Cash panel van so you can sell Little Jimmy to pay for your new ride! 😂 💰 🤷♂️
I really like the split map screen view. Very nice.
Plenty to like about this car.
I'm not sure I'd like having to look down at that screen. I like the tablet at eye level in my MY but REALLY would like having a dash cluster or a HUD.
$170K is a lot of money. Pretty much puts it out there in a very limited choice pool. I've heard great things about it, but that's still a lot. Maybe down to $140K? That would possibly put it in the realm of possible.