@@granalmirantethrawn2972 Rebels shows Separatist remnants in the later era of the empire. This is one of the first remnants we get to see fight back during the empire's early days.
I would love to see more separatist insurgents during the dark times. Just makes the universe more interesting and it’s realistic, there are millions of droids out there and not every commander would surrender because they were told to stand down. There should be loyalists fighting to the end.
@@YuGiOhAbridgeFAN yea so far as I can tell the only major rebel planets that were republic during the clone wars were Mon Cala and Alderaan, as well as the Incom corp.
It's sad how in the new era, clone troopers feel more robotic and droid-like than actual droids, that high-five felt more human than the current state of all the clones in the Empire.
@@DM5550Z if that place had a planetary shield, some j6 proton cannons(which have taken down acclimators), dwarf spider droids and some vulture droids it would of been almost impenetrable.
@@awesomearchivist1705realistically I would’ve expected Desix to have vulture droids and maybe proton cannons. The fact that they were able to fight back with just B1s, Commandos Droidekas and a singular tank is pretty impressive. They were all done more justice here than in most of TCW honestly.
0:26 The shot of the droids guarding the tank is so awesome. Usually in Clone Wars we see the droids mostly opt for wave-attacks where they just overwhelm an enemy using sheer numbers, marching in massive formations towards the opponent. But here we get to see them behaving more tactically, like having a squad of battle droids deployed to screen the tank.
My headcannon is that compared to the droids before order 66. The droids are programmed to just become a bunch of cannon fodders so they throw themselves with numbers. But since they serve no more purpose to Palpatine. They begin to act more tactically as numbers won't help them anymore.
Notice how much more effective they are as the good guys? The Separatists need their own spin off series so we can see more on the battles they've actually won. Maybe led by a Separatist leader like Trench
I would have new separatist commanders, with cameos from established ones. This is a galactic scale war after all. There are hundreds of jedi with their own battalions/legions/etc, there should be just as many if not more (due to an army 100 times the size) separatist commanders.
I like the idea that there are Separatists still operating after the Clone Wars ended. It's like the Empire still being around during The Mandalorian but not in complete power anymore. We even saw some separatist droids in Rebels.
Om Star Wars: Rogue Squadron III, at one point Wedge crash-lands on Geonosis, and the droids are not just still there, but still operational (and possibly believe it's still the Clone Wars). When I saw that as a kid, it basically gave me this "oh shit" moment where I realised that, almost certainly, the entire CIS hadn't just collapsed at the end of Episode III.
Just noticed the small detail of the Commander battle droid standing on the tank and the pilot halfway out the hatch looking at the ship crashing, the pilot had one of those backpack that makes it operate on a central command computer, and the commander did not, small detail like this makes it great.
That detail was barley shown in the Clone Wars tv show, they were just regular B1s repainted, as well with pilot, or security droids. I’m glad they got it right here.
@@dj11o9er thats what they mean. The grunt has the backpack but the commander doesnt. Im not that big on sw lore but i guess he doesn neeed it? I think thsts what these guys mean.
@@DreamVikings That's the thing. Later during the Clone Wars, the B1s weren't connected at all. The B1s remarked at seeing a dead B1, noting how he got scrapped in battle due to it, but not them because they were independent thinkers. The droids got ambushed and scrapped by twi'leks seconds later
@@DreamVikings The backpack with antenna is a communication booster. It's standards gear but not always equipped. In this case the OP is noting that the captain/spotter droid is without one, likely relaying communications through the tank driver.
This episode was hard to watch as someone who's always been team seperatist it hurt watching the droids desperately try to defend Desix from imperial invaders. They fought good but freedom and democracy has been crushed again.
@@jamespinecone1618 Dude f*ck Dooku and the separatist council which only consisted of greedy mega corps leaders. They betrayed the separatist cause for money and power. The real good guys were the separatist people and planets who wanted freedom and independance from the corrupt and oppressive republic and the senate.
I love how the droids are meant to be emotionless metalic beasts meant to overwhelm enemy positions and follow every order, yet the creators gave them so much personality and humanized them with their dialogues, they're so wholesome and funny, also it's ironic that the droids are supposed to follow every orders yet questions their commanders multiple times in the series, whilst the clones are supposed to have more mental capacity/able to think independently being actual humans (artificial ones at least) yet they mindlessly follow orders 66 because of their chips.
I don't know about Disney, but in EU they explained the droid's goofiness pretty well. Obviously they didn't use modern AI terminology since that wasn't around at the time, but the concepts are pretty much the same so I'll be using now-understood ai TERMS terminology where appropriate: Droids in general are questionably sentient self-learning AI. In most cases, droids are both trained on a wide-range of existing data related to their job, and in the process their job they interact with other sentients. The battle droids, however, as a cost-cutting measure, were given mostly just knowledge on combat and then spent their time interacting with mostly other droids. So, their 'self-learning" ended up being recursive and leading to all sorts of weird personalities developing.
i like this episode because it shows just how effective the driods really were at their job just a bunch of b1s nearly flawlessly defended the city, imagine if that tactical droid had access to B2's as well as more commandos and destroyer droid particularly the sniper variant. i doubt crosshair and cody would of been able to infiltrate the city with a direct aproauch without more men
Now we’re rooting for the battle droids. They really were the Rebel Alliance of the Clone Wars just cooler. They were the good guys the whole time just with the wrong leaders. Like the Republic too.
No they were not. The problem was that BOTH sides were the bad guys....and only one side of them without knowing it (as both sides were sith controlled and acted accordingly).
@@tome7998 the problem is that it is never shown in TCW. separatist commanders are all moustache-twiriling villains while their republic counterparts are almost always portrayed as good. Tiranny isn’t etablished in a day and TCW should have shown that with the republic gradually becoming more tyrannical. But no according to Filoni everything suddendly changes when the Empire is declared.
@@tome7998 and yet TCW presents the Republic’s military actions as heroic. We are told the Republic is corrupt but we don’t see it very much. We just see a few “evil” characters and that’s it.
@@tome7998 well problem is that palp started the whole war. he tells the seps to attack the republic. and of course clones with chips execute order 66. palp is the biggest concerns which nobody knew until it was too late
I love how this episode was a normal clone wars episode but flipped on its head. The cis are now the good guys and the empire (republic) are now the bad guys.
I loved how the Droids become the good guys. Here i learned something, The CIS fight against The Republic. The Republic become The Empire. The Rebels fight against The Empire. So... CIS and Resistance were basically on the same side, just different Timeline
That's what the Geonosian Gizor Dellso wanted to do at Mustafar with building his own Separatist Army. Unfortunately, the Empire found out sooner than he thought and sent a division to kill him and the factory that was building his army.
Finally showing the CIS as the good guys. We see so little of that in the Clone Wars, but it needs to be remembered that series was written to function as Republic propaganda (I'm not joking either, they literally start every episode with a war propaganda broadcast from Wulf Yularen, of all people... you know, the future ISB Colonel). Republic, even pre-Palpatine, was always corrupt and falling slowly into Empire. Palpatine just exploited existing problems to hasten his own ascent. CIS, imo, were the objectively better faction as their cause was just, they recognized the genuine issues with the Republic, saw the Empire coming, and were basically proto-rebels. Even their ruling Sith-lord, Dooku, was a genuine idealist who wanted a better future/had good intentions. Questionable actions but noble goals. H*ll even Grievous has a sympathetic backstory when you read in to it. Always pained me that the CIS get lumped in with the Empire as this pure-evil faction while the Republic somehow gets a pass as "light side"
There’s the fact even if they had a point, they were willing to resort to terrorism, Bioweapons, were run by arms dealers and such... neither side had much good to them besides the Jedi... and yes they had flaws. There’s a book about dooku where he slaughters a entire species as their fleeing their home....
Dooku was loyal to Palpatine and not the separatist cause. Also the separatist council didn't consist of real separatists but greedy mega corps leaders that wanted to make money with the war. Also Dooku was extremly xenophobic, something pretty strange if you consider the separatists were mainly species who were being exploited and discriminated by the republic.
@@noahbusch7542 It wasn't run by arms dealers, the 'CIS council' were war profiteers, and all of those companies had seats in the Senate. In fact a bunch of the people we see in ROTS in that hall were senators themselves!
I wouldnt say TCW is a republic propaganda. There were a couple of arcs that showed the evils of the republic. Some arcs weren't even about the republic at all.
When there not in a conflict that has been orchestrated for them to inevitably loose (clone wars), battle droid tactics are exponentially more effective.
The clones somehow managed to step up their game after the Jedi had been purged. Usually military campaigns where a small platoon fought against that many droids could only be successful when a Jedi's involved
I mean by that point they were seasoned veterans of the clone wars. They raided the city like a spec ops squad despite being foot soldiers. But there were still impressive cases like Umbara where the clones pulled through seemingly impossible situations.
@@goosnavslakovic4908 there's also the factor of massive amounts of plot armour, where a several hundred kph crash barely injures most of the occupants of a ship, zero damage done to those slightly off screen during an explosion despite actually being only several feet away from it, and, of course, the deus ex machina killer-bean-ass shot crosshair pulls off at the end of the battle
Should see more Separatist holdouts. I did enjoy the "Hmm hmm" sass of the Droids in another scene. This is how the Droid Army should have been - winning on merit - throughout the TCW.
In the Andorverse, Saw Guerra mentions among other various rebel factions 'Seperatists' so there totally were some still kicking around up and past Yavin.
I can’t believe after multiple shows they still haven’t used the legends plot line where surviving separatists found grievous’s body and brought him back as a full droid with all of his fighting skills remaining. Granted he died in the first battle minutes after being activated, but would be cool to see the empire being led by a few inquisitors or Vader against a last stand of droids from different ages of the war and older models from before, then have a deranged Jedi killing droid break out slaughtering through half an army before being put down by Vader. Make him like how he was in the original clone wars before mace injured him and that’d be the best episode of the season easily
See how they literally could have just made an AT Weapons team of just B1 Battle droids That resourceful yet efficient way of creating heavy weapons team would have shredded republic air superiority and walkers in the majority of the War if the CIS tried to use a brain for a bit
True but you have to question the accuracy of the rockets and also they can be shot down by a republic walkers remember the episode of grevious stranded and hunted on a planet and the at-at shot the rocket with the main gun
Tbf the CIS was by design to be inaffective despite it's size, by palpatine. and when they did have the chance to be competent a simple phone call from "the senate", either too dooku or nearby republic forces could suddenly turn that brilliant plan upside down. Since this takes place after order 66, CIS leaders won't have anyone interfering in their battle plans allowing them to use the droid army to it's fullest potential.
@@mostdefinitelynotadurian true if the cis had no outside influence I think a lot of battles would have been won but I don’t know if they could have won the war
@@smokeybear1597 in a attriotional war they could have high likelyhood to win the war. Since well GAR is heavily outnumbered 4 - 1. Not to mention since the cloning facility is centralized in kamino. The CIS would've been able to cripple the Republic, if it was allowed to concentrate it's forces to conquer the planet or atleast destroy all cloning facilities there
Not going to lie that « nice shot! » was just so wholesome. Even though they are just droids they are still as conscience as everyone else. It’s sad how they are mass produced and made to be « expendable ». I wish we could see some glory to the separatist droids too.
@@Basedlocation The Republic launched a pre-emptive strike, since the separatists were amassing a vast droid army and preparing to attack hence the separatists were the aggressor's, hell the republic didn't even have a standing army until they learned about the clones, which allowed them to hit the separatists before they could hit the republic
I would recreate this and so many more Separatist/Trade Federation versus Empire battles in Star Wars: Galactic Battlegrounds (2001). Yes, it was a pretty blatant copy of Age of Empires II, but it was a lot of fun, cool environments for the time, and one of the first times you could really make your own Star Wars reenactments with large armies.
I also played Galactic Battlegrounds! That game is amazing, played it for years and even completed most of the Trade Federation campaign! Long live Battle Droids! 😁👍🎉🎉
At last the battle droids are back! I missed them, I loved them, I am still proud of everything they choose to be. About their humor, their confidence, their duty. We need characters like them, so much like in the Wall-E movie. Bless your video, mate! Fully appreciate it. 🤝
This was the best but hardest to watch episode. On one hand, you cheer for the Clones & Cody but yet their the Empire, & on the other your cheering for battle droids for probably the first time since R2-D2’s squad which is hard to do.
This episode has inspired me to make Droid Army Blender Animations. I'm building the models in my off time. The Confederacy of Independent Systems will rise again.
They were made aware of what happened. But the one Rex encountered didn’t even know until they were told that the empire became recently and was able to run away.
You know what would be a crazy twist, if the droids brains were digital versions of the clones earlier in life. So this entire time the clones were essentially killing their brothers. Thats how they were able to feel emotion.
The thing is, if that was not a clone squad but an stormtrooper squad the droids would have won that battle (not that it matters in the end because the empire would just keep sending more)
Imagine, growing up with the Clone wars, always cheering for the clones, 7 seasons of getting to know them and feel bad about when we see them dying. Yet now we cheer for the droids... against these same clones...
This is what I’m saying! People always saying the droids are trash, but I know better. They’ve killed multiple Jedi before and have wiped entire legions of clones off of planets! There’s a reason why they needed clones, so they could keep up with production!
That high five was so wholesome.
So brotherly.
Roger Roger
i’ve been trying to find this clip ever since the episode dropped because it just made me so happy🤣
I know right?
Roger Roger
We finally see some Separatist remnants fight the Empire
Rebels?
@@granalmirantethrawn2972 Rebels shows Separatist remnants in the later era of the empire. This is one of the first remnants we get to see fight back during the empire's early days.
@@herobetty touche
It’s pretty cool to see honestly
lol yeah but you're probably the type of fan who wantonly accepted the Empire being gone three years after Endor 🤣
I would love to see more separatist insurgents during the dark times. Just makes the universe more interesting and it’s realistic, there are millions of droids out there and not every commander would surrender because they were told to stand down. There should be loyalists fighting to the end.
Me too
Reminds me that General Kalani needs to be brought back.
@Unmemeable 17 I think he meant after that.
They did. The majority of the Rebels backing and forces were Separatist strongholds and operatives.
@@YuGiOhAbridgeFAN yea so far as I can tell the only major rebel planets that were republic during the clone wars were Mon Cala and Alderaan, as well as the Incom corp.
It's sad how in the new era, clone troopers feel more robotic and droid-like than actual droids, that high-five felt more human than the current state of all the clones in the Empire.
So being human now means being quicky? Where the robotecizer?!
Because that is what palpatine wanted.... unquestioning loyalty...no emotion.....no independent thought
I think this is the point theyre trying to make
That’s exactly what an inhibitor chip does to you. It controls your entire mind, changing you completely.
It’s actually how are the clone when they arn’t with the main characters. It’s not especially bad, but more realistic, in a military way.
They are finally shown as the good guys
I wish their army was slightly larger and won, but amazing to see them in action again.
Yay separatists!!! Boo empire!!!
@@DM5550Z if that place had a planetary shield, some j6 proton cannons(which have taken down acclimators), dwarf spider droids and some vulture droids it would of been almost impenetrable.
Always been the good guys
@@awesomearchivist1705realistically I would’ve expected Desix to have vulture droids and maybe proton cannons. The fact that they were able to fight back with just B1s, Commandos Droidekas and a singular tank is pretty impressive. They were all done more justice here than in most of TCW honestly.
Wow! I'm starting to root for the droids. Honestly, I've always liked them. And that hive five... Real brotherly droid moment!
Agreed. Always found droids more fascinating than clones.
@@geonite2072 to me I've liked the deoids a lot more than te clones because they don't have some miraculous plot armor
It’s not that droids were evil it’s just we seen them often under the command of warlords and mercenaries who ordered them to do awful things.
@@Phantom19913 that, too👍👏👏👏
Also, look at that. Execute order 66, likes.
Now that the Clones are for the Empire I’m rooting for the droids now 😅
0:26 The shot of the droids guarding the tank is so awesome. Usually in Clone Wars we see the droids mostly opt for wave-attacks where they just overwhelm an enemy using sheer numbers, marching in massive formations towards the opponent. But here we get to see them behaving more tactically, like having a squad of battle droids deployed to screen the tank.
they probably had proper maintenance for once, and weren't overtaxed by the constant war
so they could finally operate at their peak efficiency
And probably had less numbers too.
Well, when you no longer have a factory constantly making you new soldiers, you kinda need to be more conservative with your resources.
they also mentioned this later in the episode, in that they realised this and figured out that the droids must have been led by a tactical droid
My headcannon is that compared to the droids before order 66. The droids are programmed to just become a bunch of cannon fodders so they throw themselves with numbers. But since they serve no more purpose to Palpatine. They begin to act more tactically as numbers won't help them anymore.
Notice how much more effective they are as the good guys?
The Separatists need their own spin off series so we can see more on the battles they've actually won. Maybe led by a Separatist leader like Trench
Or sometimes grievous or kalani
Or just regular Tactical Droids.
@@Aelxi thats no fun, having organics leading would be better
I read that they were purposely nerfed so as to prolong the war. Otherwise republic would’ve been steamrolled
I would have new separatist commanders, with cameos from established ones. This is a galactic scale war after all. There are hundreds of jedi with their own battalions/legions/etc, there should be just as many if not more (due to an army 100 times the size) separatist commanders.
I like the idea that there are Separatists still operating after the Clone Wars ended. It's like the Empire still being around during The Mandalorian but not in complete power anymore. We even saw some separatist droids in Rebels.
To add to my reply, Christopher Lloyd played a separatist in The Mandalorian.
There were also some in SW: Resistance, they ain’t going away.
@@stoutshakofor2refined962 true but it was just the droids working for the pirates who weren’t Separatists.
Om Star Wars: Rogue Squadron III, at one point Wedge crash-lands on Geonosis, and the droids are not just still there, but still operational (and possibly believe it's still the Clone Wars).
When I saw that as a kid, it basically gave me this "oh shit" moment where I realised that, almost certainly, the entire CIS hadn't just collapsed at the end of Episode III.
Just noticed the small detail of the Commander battle droid standing on the tank and the pilot halfway out the hatch looking at the ship crashing, the pilot had one of those backpack that makes it operate on a central command computer, and the commander did not, small detail like this makes it great.
That detail was barley shown in the Clone Wars tv show, they were just regular B1s repainted, as well with pilot, or security droids. I’m glad they got it right here.
Uh. Sir.
Standard B1s always had that type of backpack. Now idk bout certain specialized B1s but they still always did have that backpack thing
@@dj11o9er thats what they mean. The grunt has the backpack but the commander doesnt. Im not that big on sw lore but i guess he doesn neeed it? I think thsts what these guys mean.
@@DreamVikings That's the thing. Later during the Clone Wars, the B1s weren't connected at all. The B1s remarked at seeing a dead B1, noting how he got scrapped in battle due to it, but not them because they were independent thinkers.
The droids got ambushed and scrapped by twi'leks seconds later
@@DreamVikings The backpack with antenna is a communication booster. It's standards gear but not always equipped. In this case the OP is noting that the captain/spotter droid is without one, likely relaying communications through the tank driver.
I need more CIS in my life.
Holy truth
Then get the Fall of the Republic Mod for Empire at war and play as the CIS; it's a fun strategy game!
The CIS is so cool.
This episode was hard to watch as someone who's always been team seperatist it hurt watching the droids desperately try to defend Desix from imperial invaders. They fought good but freedom and democracy has been crushed again.
smh dooku was right :(
@@jamespinecone1618 Dude f*ck Dooku and the separatist council which only consisted of greedy mega corps leaders. They betrayed the separatist cause for money and power. The real good guys were the separatist people and planets who wanted freedom and independance from the corrupt and oppressive republic and the senate.
yeah me too
It will rise again. It always does.
Unironically the separatists are the good guys. Too bad their efforts are faded to the background and more or less viewed as the "bad guys."
I'm glad they are touching on the empire vs the separatist. This was a thing in the old lore, and I always loved the idea of these two fighting.
I love how the droids are meant to be emotionless metalic beasts meant to overwhelm enemy positions and follow every order, yet the creators gave them so much personality and humanized them with their dialogues, they're so wholesome and funny, also it's ironic that the droids are supposed to follow every orders yet questions their commanders multiple times in the series, whilst the clones are supposed to have more mental capacity/able to think independently being actual humans (artificial ones at least) yet they mindlessly follow orders 66 because of their chips.
There's a whole video with a canon explanation of why they're like that, it's actually kinda sad
I don't know about Disney, but in EU they explained the droid's goofiness pretty well. Obviously they didn't use modern AI terminology since that wasn't around at the time, but the concepts are pretty much the same so I'll be using now-understood ai TERMS terminology where appropriate:
Droids in general are questionably sentient self-learning AI. In most cases, droids are both trained on a wide-range of existing data related to their job, and in the process their job they interact with other sentients. The battle droids, however, as a cost-cutting measure, were given mostly just knowledge on combat and then spent their time interacting with mostly other droids. So, their 'self-learning" ended up being recursive and leading to all sorts of weird personalities developing.
that high five tho :)
I was hoping they would wim
YO DUDE YOU ALSO HERE?
The Droids were more competent this time because their leader actually knew how to command and had something to lose
i like this episode because it shows just how effective the driods really were at their job just a bunch of b1s nearly flawlessly defended the city, imagine if that tactical droid had access to B2's as well as more commandos and destroyer droid particularly the sniper variant. i doubt crosshair and cody would of been able to infiltrate the city with a direct aproauch without more men
Or dwarf spider droids and crab droids
Without Crosshair the droids would have even repelled the Imperial attack.
Another moment of b1’s shining moments, being callable and not immediately destroyed. Long live the droid army.
Now we’re rooting for the battle droids. They really were the Rebel Alliance of the Clone Wars just cooler. They were the good guys the whole time just with the wrong leaders. Like the Republic too.
No they were not. The problem was that BOTH sides were the bad guys....and only one side of them without knowing it (as both sides were sith controlled and acted accordingly).
@@tome7998 the problem is that it is never shown in TCW. separatist commanders are all moustache-twiriling villains while their republic counterparts are almost always portrayed as good. Tiranny isn’t etablished in a day and TCW should have shown that with the republic gradually becoming more tyrannical. But no according to Filoni everything suddendly changes when the Empire is declared.
@@jimiacuwhg3836 doesnt even revenge of the sith say that? (republic was corrupt but with the declaration everything changed all of a sudden)
@@tome7998 and yet TCW presents the Republic’s military actions as heroic. We are told the Republic is corrupt but we don’t see it very much. We just see a few “evil” characters and that’s it.
@@tome7998 well problem is that palp started the whole war. he tells the seps to attack the republic. and of course clones with chips execute order 66. palp is the biggest concerns which nobody knew until it was too late
0:42 Battle droid high five!!! That’s exactly what we needed this whole time. I hope these battle droids return in season three.
So Droinds being used to their 100% capability. Not hindered by the "plan" I love it!
Anyone else love this tactical droid's voice as much as I do?
Thought I was the only one!
Tactical droids always have the coolest voices
I like every Tactical Droid voice
The tactical droid in this episode was voiced by Shelby Young who also voiced Leia in Lego Star Wars the Skywalker Saga.
I prefer General Kahlani but this one sounds pretty good as well
Ima be real: the battle droids high fiving gives me a reason to live.
I love how this episode was a normal clone wars episode but flipped on its head. The cis are now the good guys and the empire (republic) are now the bad guys.
Battle Droids are programmed to high five each and compliment each other. Now that is just wholesome.
It's good to see battle droids kick ass, finally they feel like an actual threat.
They would be the most powerful army in the galaxy if it wasn't for them being designed to lose
@@generalkenobi1972 The entertaining thing is that despite that, they were starting to win anyways.
They always kicked ass.. Wth are you talking about
@@RedNinja0070 Lol they are a joke. B1 at least.
This is how they should have been throughout TCW winning on merit.
I loved how the Droids become the good guys. Here i learned something,
The CIS fight against The Republic.
The Republic become The Empire.
The Rebels fight against The Empire.
So... CIS and Resistance were basically on the same side, just different Timeline
Finally the droids got 1000000000000 IQ instead of 0 brain cells
Because the Empire has -3 brain cells
@@JAKECOT_CENTER the Empire in Rebels has -1000000 brain cells
@@generalkenobi1972 but like this is when the Empire wasn’t even a year old so they still have some brain cells
@@JAKECOT_CENTER Or rather cloned cells .
Brings back memories of one of the Clone Wars episodes
I miss the clone wars.
Proving that the droid's inefficiency during the Clone Wars was mostly due to bad management.
A rebel battle droid army would be a pain ass for the Empire.
Especially if modified and updated like Mr Bones
That's what the Geonosian Gizor Dellso wanted to do at Mustafar with building his own Separatist Army. Unfortunately, the Empire found out sooner than he thought and sent a division to kill him and the factory that was building his army.
0:42 nice high five there
More like high three. But yeah.
Finally showing the CIS as the good guys. We see so little of that in the Clone Wars, but it needs to be remembered that series was written to function as Republic propaganda (I'm not joking either, they literally start every episode with a war propaganda broadcast from Wulf Yularen, of all people... you know, the future ISB Colonel). Republic, even pre-Palpatine, was always corrupt and falling slowly into Empire. Palpatine just exploited existing problems to hasten his own ascent.
CIS, imo, were the objectively better faction as their cause was just, they recognized the genuine issues with the Republic, saw the Empire coming, and were basically proto-rebels. Even their ruling Sith-lord, Dooku, was a genuine idealist who wanted a better future/had good intentions. Questionable actions but noble goals. H*ll even Grievous has a sympathetic backstory when you read in to it. Always pained me that the CIS get lumped in with the Empire as this pure-evil faction while the Republic somehow gets a pass as "light side"
There’s the fact even if they had a point, they were willing to resort to terrorism, Bioweapons, were run by arms dealers and such... neither side had much good to them besides the Jedi... and yes they had flaws.
There’s a book about dooku where he slaughters a entire species as their fleeing their home....
Dooku was loyal to Palpatine and not the separatist cause. Also the separatist council didn't consist of real separatists but greedy mega corps leaders that wanted to make money with the war.
Also Dooku was extremly xenophobic, something pretty strange if you consider the separatists were mainly species who were being exploited and discriminated by the republic.
@@noahbusch7542 It wasn't run by arms dealers, the 'CIS council' were war profiteers, and all of those companies had seats in the Senate. In fact a bunch of the people we see in ROTS in that hall were senators themselves!
I wouldnt say TCW is a republic propaganda. There were a couple of arcs that showed the evils of the republic. Some arcs weren't even about the republic at all.
@@takakocaesar579Yeah like the Mortis arc, no way that's Republic propaganda
The B1's unlocked the power of being the protagonists.
See how good and effective we are when not facing endless plot armour
We haven't seen victories for the CIS since 2003
The battle droids are so overshadowed by the clones.
When the clones don’t have plot armor.
When there not in a conflict that has been orchestrated for them to inevitably loose (clone wars), battle droid tactics are exponentially more effective.
"You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain." Oh how the times have changed.
LAAT gunship woulda had way more dignity that that imperial shuttle.
The clones somehow managed to step up their game after the Jedi had been purged. Usually military campaigns where a small platoon fought against that many droids could only be successful when a Jedi's involved
I mean by that point they were seasoned veterans of the clone wars. They raided the city like a spec ops squad despite being foot soldiers.
But there were still impressive cases like Umbara where the clones pulled through seemingly impossible situations.
@@goosnavslakovic4908 there's also the factor of massive amounts of plot armour, where a several hundred kph crash barely injures most of the occupants of a ship, zero damage done to those slightly off screen during an explosion despite actually being only several feet away from it, and, of course, the deus ex machina killer-bean-ass shot crosshair pulls off at the end of the battle
They have a commander and elite commando though, that makes a big difference. ARC troopers tended to carry battles to a lesser extent than Jedi.
Finally they got the clone pilot right!
About time
this is what battle droids should be like, deadly with a mix of wacky b1 droid humor
You gotta remember, to the droid army, the empire is essentially the same entity that was the republic they’ve been fighting
Should see more Separatist holdouts. I did enjoy the "Hmm hmm" sass of the Droids in another scene. This is how the Droid Army should have been - winning on merit - throughout the TCW.
The battle droids are still my favorite Star Wars army.
Bro was up in his tower playing Empire at War
Imagine if droids fought that well during the clone wars
Plot armour + cannon plot armour (palp) made that virtually impossibly
This is the closet thing to lore accurate droid action i think we will ever see
We needed more of this kind of storytelling.
And less of the bad characters failing to succeed on their missions and yet somehow failing upwards.
the high five is amazing droids are the best
Imagine if the CIS remnants teamed up with the Rebel Alliance.
In the Andorverse, Saw Guerra mentions among other various rebel factions 'Seperatists' so there totally were some still kicking around up and past Yavin.
In ways they help rebel the rebels did use there technology against the empire
I can’t believe after multiple shows they still haven’t used the legends plot line where surviving separatists found grievous’s body and brought him back as a full droid with all of his fighting skills remaining. Granted he died in the first battle minutes after being activated, but would be cool to see the empire being led by a few inquisitors or Vader against a last stand of droids from different ages of the war and older models from before, then have a deranged Jedi killing droid break out slaughtering through half an army before being put down by Vader. Make him like how he was in the original clone wars before mace injured him and that’d be the best episode of the season easily
Grievous organs are destroyed so he cant be brought back. Also he hates Droids.
See how they literally could have just made an AT Weapons team of just B1 Battle droids
That resourceful yet efficient way of creating heavy weapons team would have shredded republic air superiority and walkers in the majority of the War if the CIS tried to use a brain for a bit
True but you have to question the accuracy of the rockets and also they can be shot down by a republic walkers remember the episode of grevious stranded and hunted on a planet and the at-at shot the rocket with the main gun
@@smokeybear1597 thats why you bring them in groups. They will still use the CIS doctrine and having a single volley of rockets is a total sure kill
Tbf the CIS was by design to be inaffective despite it's size, by palpatine. and when they did have the chance to be competent a simple phone call from "the senate", either too dooku or nearby republic forces could suddenly turn that brilliant plan upside down.
Since this takes place after order 66, CIS leaders won't have anyone interfering in their battle plans allowing them to use the droid army to it's fullest potential.
@@mostdefinitelynotadurian true if the cis had no outside influence I think a lot of battles would have been won but I don’t know if they could have won the war
@@smokeybear1597 in a attriotional war they could have high likelyhood to win the war. Since well GAR is heavily outnumbered 4 - 1. Not to mention since the cloning facility is centralized in kamino. The CIS would've been able to cripple the Republic, if it was allowed to concentrate it's forces to conquer the planet or atleast destroy all cloning facilities there
It's awesome seeing the Separatists becoming the good guys after the Republic has been turned into an Empire.
Commander battle droid: "Nice shot!" 🖐
Not going to lie that « nice shot! » was just so wholesome. Even though they are just droids they are still as conscience as everyone else. It’s sad how they are mass produced and made to be « expendable ». I wish we could see some glory to the separatist droids too.
I just like the droid tank commander giving a high-five to the gunner after getting one good shot
I think this was actually the first time I actually rooted for the separatist battle droids
And you didn’t root for them when the republic launched a war of aggression?
@@Basedlocation The Republic launched a pre-emptive strike, since the separatists were amassing a vast droid army and preparing to attack hence the separatists were the aggressor's, hell the republic didn't even have a standing army until they learned about the clones, which allowed them to hit the separatists before they could hit the republic
I always liked CIS more jedi were blind to their crimes clones were simple pupets/dogs
@@Stranger-gl6ie the CIS weren't really the good guys either and did a lot of things just as bad is not worse, we have seen that
I would recreate this and so many more Separatist/Trade Federation versus Empire battles in Star Wars: Galactic Battlegrounds (2001). Yes, it was a pretty blatant copy of Age of Empires II, but it was a lot of fun, cool environments for the time, and one of the first times you could really make your own Star Wars reenactments with large armies.
I also played Galactic Battlegrounds! That game is amazing, played it for years and even completed most of the Trade Federation campaign! Long live Battle Droids! 😁👍🎉🎉
"Although the Clone Wars were over, some people never seem to get the message." -501st Journal Battlefront II
Separatist>Empire
the only way for the Separatists to win in any battle: they are on the side of the good guys
This episode does prove that the droid army could be extremely effective, if properly led and not set up to loose
"How many times have you watched this"
"Yes"
I am thrilled seeing battle droids as good guys!!!
They always were
At last the battle droids are back! I missed them, I loved them, I am still proud of everything they choose to be. About their humor, their confidence, their duty. We need characters like them, so much like in the Wall-E movie. Bless your video, mate! Fully appreciate it. 🤝
Then the Empire never worried about them again and they lived happily ever after 🥰
Battledroids enjoy a little plot armor for a change
1000 years later after the Empire, the droids rebel against their masters. Humans flee to Kobol to establish a new life.
crazy how people think B1 battledroids are incompetent piles of junk
This was the best but hardest to watch episode. On one hand, you cheer for the Clones & Cody but yet their the Empire, & on the other your cheering for battle droids for probably the first time since R2-D2’s squad which is hard to do.
We see the true power of the droid army now that the clones don’t have plot armor on their side anymore.
The first clones vs droids battle where I'm rooting for the droids. Go clankas!
This episode has inspired me to make Droid Army Blender Animations. I'm building the models in my off time. The Confederacy of Independent Systems will rise again.
Good luck!!
Freedom for the Outer Rim.
Imperial?? I thought they were going to say Republic. They must have updated their units or something
Or the Droids have been briefed on the Republic's reorganisation into the Galactic Empire.
The Governor was aware of the reorganization into the empire and still wanted to remain an Independent system which meant keeping the droids active.
Droids are capable of learning on the go.
They were made aware of what happened. But the one Rex encountered didn’t even know until they were told that the empire became recently and was able to run away.
@@debbiebernhardt5406 kalani and his droids were completely isolated in that wreck, makes sense
"Nice Shot!" *High five* Incredibly Rare B1 W
You know what would be a crazy twist, if the droids brains were digital versions of the clones earlier in life. So this entire time the clones were essentially killing their brothers. Thats how they were able to feel emotion.
The thing is, if that was not a clone squad but an stormtrooper squad the droids would have won that battle (not that it matters in the end because the empire would just keep sending more)
The one time B1s are competent.
Having grown up watching the Clone Wars, I never thought that I would ever say this in a million years, but I’m rooting for the Separatists!
0:41 "nice shot!"
✋
That awkward moment when you want the B1's to kill the clones.
Imagine, growing up with the Clone wars, always cheering for the clones, 7 seasons of getting to know them and feel bad about when we see them dying. Yet now we cheer for the droids... against these same clones...
Actually competent battle droids
It's nice to see a battle droid army in the Empire's time.
Love the battle droids!
I've always loved the CIS. Wanted them to survive.
The droids ain't playing shit no more
This is what happends when the war isnt riged by palpatine
I would love to see droids and clones fighting the empire in a large scale battle. Like in rebels but bigger
Rare moments when the CIS isnt nerfed
The Jedis really carried the Republic HARD, on top of Palpatine intentionally nerfing the CIS so they wouldn't mess with his plan by actually winning
Sadly there weren’t any commando droid sniper unit pairs, it would’ve been a whole different story if there were any
Seeing droids lined up with missike launchers is epoc
This is what I’m saying! People always saying the droids are trash, but I know better. They’ve killed multiple Jedi before and have wiped entire legions of clones off of planets! There’s a reason why they needed clones, so they could keep up with production!
The Battle Droids high fiving gives me life.
It's always nice to see Separatist holdouts in the Imperial Era
Hilarious to see the droids celebrating that they finally hit something 😂
This episode: "Oh how the turn tables."