Grandia (Sega Saturn vs Playstation) Side by Side Comparison

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  • Grandia Comparison - Playstation/ Ps1 vs Sega Saturn.

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  • @drunkensailor112
    @drunkensailor112 7 лет назад +83

    A good game to show what could be done by the saturn with the right programmers.

  • @gurriato
    @gurriato 3 года назад +57

    This is from a Steam review by user gamer_7601:
    "Let's get the things that the PlayStation does graphically better out of the way first:
    - Proper transparency effects (Saturn uses mesh transparency)
    - More detailed character shadows outside of battles (Saturn just uses a black circle).
    - Some spells have more complex effects.
    That should be pretty much it.
    Now the things that are worse on PlayStation:
    - Skyboxes have no textures.
    - There are a lot of distorted textures.
    - Water effects are simpler.
    - Character sprites are missing their right side.
    - Many ground textures have been simplified. Static shadows are often part of the ground texture, so they are mostly gone too.
    - Backgrounds used in battles have a much lower resolution."

    • @DragonPop64
      @DragonPop64 Год назад +1

      Thanks

    • @Medachod
      @Medachod 11 месяцев назад

      I genuinely don't mind the Saturn having circle shadows outside of battles. I always thought it felt like the sun was moving violently in the PSX port because of how their shadows stayed in place, well in a battle scene, it makes a lot more sense that the shadows are visible where they are since the camera is fixated.
      And for every mesh effect nowadays, a nice composite bleed signal on real hardware or using Kronos on emulation nullifies these problems pretty fast.

    • @jason.kchantziaras8456
      @jason.kchantziaras8456 Месяц назад

      check the video again !! even ripped Saturn games the transparency looks amazing

  • @Xanatos21
    @Xanatos21 10 месяцев назад +8

    I prefer the Saturn version. The colors look blurry on PSX at times, whereas they actually seem to "pop" more on the Saturn. I also noticed a bit more animation with Sue when she was running through the town in the Saturn version. It just looked better, overall. The water animation on Saturn also contains some more detail. So glad the Saturn version was fully translated and can now be played via emulation (it uses the same official PSX English translation, but subtitles have been added to the animated cutscenes since the voices are obviously in Japanese). It truly is awesome! The PSX version will always hold a special place in my heart, but the Saturn version definitely wins here.

    • @furbi963
      @furbi963 4 месяца назад +1

      🥺 y yo conformandome con una versión parcialmente traducida al español del psx😢

  • @iPlaySEGA
    @iPlaySEGA 8 лет назад +61

    Such a beautiful RPG!!
    Game Arts FTW!!

    • @volkte37
      @volkte37 6 лет назад +8

      This is the best comment. Who's cares which is better? The game is just amazing!

    • @Bloodreign1
      @Bloodreign1 5 лет назад

      Sprites and 2D artwork hold up nicely even years later, so this game will always look good other than the 3D polygons used for buildings. However the Lunar games will always look better visually as the entire game is sprites and 2D artwork.

  • @graalcloud
    @graalcloud 4 года назад +11

    At 2:38 the smoke transparency effect actually looks much better on the Saturn. It blends nicely with the level colors. On the playstation it looks like the alpha brightness is way too high, almost like it's in a lighting effect mode.

  • @zratul
    @zratul Год назад +14

    One of the advantage of the Saturn here is the use of the VDP2 for the floor. As a result it doesn't wiggle like the PS1 version which suffers of texture warping. Really noticeable during those 360 degrees camera rotations. A lot of the "line" on PS1 are not straight and wiggle.
    Both consoles suffer of those distortions on 3D objects like the houses or the crates though.
    Regarding shadows, the PSone has more dynamic shadows for characters where Saturn only have that black circle. On the other hand, the Saturn has shadows for the buildings, walls reflected on the ground.

    • @TS-yz3ud
      @TS-yz3ud 10 месяцев назад

      Also, the smoke from the factory building looks better on PS1.

  • @darksidehero
    @darksidehero 8 лет назад +72

    psx has some nice transparencies on the smoke and water but the saturn version has better 2d sprites and lighting.

    • @mopeybloke
      @mopeybloke 6 лет назад

      It does?

    • @YURIMAKERSTUDIOS
      @YURIMAKERSTUDIOS 6 лет назад +2

      no Saturn tem sombra, coisa que a versão do Ps1 não tem.

    • @paulrivieras9762
      @paulrivieras9762 6 лет назад +5

      So true... only thing the PSX seems to be superior in, is the Frame Rate which does seem higher/smoother than in the Saturn Version

    • @Conchobhar
      @Conchobhar 4 года назад +5

      I have always wondered why the Saturn's lighting was so much more sophisticated than PSX. Compare Tomb Raider for an even better example.

    • @marcelocok8114
      @marcelocok8114 4 года назад

      @@YURIMAKERSTUDIOS do PlayStation tem sim.

  • @gameofyou1
    @gameofyou1 5 лет назад +16

    Played thru this on Saturn many years ago. Recently played through the PS1 version, so I could play in english. Amazing game. I hope Saturn gets a fan translation of the game some day.

    • @capcom23
      @capcom23 5 лет назад +1

      they are remastering this first Grandia game! it will have 16:9 option and they will use both psx and saturn sources to make this remaster ;-). Still unknown when it will be released but we can expect it any day!

    • @graalcloud
      @graalcloud 4 года назад +6

      Saturn does have a translation

    • @TheNameIsSR
      @TheNameIsSR 2 года назад +3

      @@capcom23 so that was a lie :(

    • @maxducoudray
      @maxducoudray Год назад

      @@TheNameIsSR I don't think it was. Grandia HD Remaster was released for PC in October 2019.

    • @mortemincarnatam2836
      @mortemincarnatam2836 Год назад +4

      @@maxducoudray and it arguably the worst version of them all.

  • @peristrojka
    @peristrojka 8 лет назад +73

    Saturn version the buildings have shades, Ps version not.

    • @rvcklvss
      @rvcklvss 8 лет назад +16

      + peristrojka The characters on the PS1 version have proper shadows instead of circles underneath them, but the lack of building shadows makes a HUGE difference

    • @fabriciovega4215
      @fabriciovega4215 7 лет назад +3

      also has higher resolution, look at the black borders on the psx port.

    • @mopeybloke
      @mopeybloke 6 лет назад

      I think that's because all Saturn games had to have a weird resolution.

    • @ThoughtformsOfTheSubconsciousM
      @ThoughtformsOfTheSubconsciousM 4 года назад +2

      @@mopeybloke nothing weird about it, just higher than your typical PS1 game.

  • @ToxicCarnageThrash
    @ToxicCarnageThrash 2 года назад +7

    There are minor differences, but on both consoles this game is great!

  • @scintilla9053
    @scintilla9053 8 лет назад +94

    SEGA SATURN is the best version.

    • @shivasthong4924
      @shivasthong4924 6 лет назад +10

      I must go where the translations go.

    • @flashbacks7892
      @flashbacks7892 6 месяцев назад

      Saturn seems have shadows from buildings, the psx version had none, also, if you look more carefully on the edges on certain given area, the psx version clearly had better overall AA (Anti-aliasing) quality.
      The Saturn version was the original, psx version is the ported version.

    • @adamberthiaume309
      @adamberthiaume309 Месяц назад

      The floor for the town and every location was one big texture with baked in building shadows. The floor on ps1 is a set of repeated tiles. Even the roads make no sense.

    • @Butterstix2014
      @Butterstix2014 29 дней назад +1

      ⁠@@adamberthiaume309 It’s so weird, couldn’t they have just split the big floor tiles into smaller textures? That’s what I kinda think.

    • @adamberthiaume309
      @adamberthiaume309 29 дней назад

      @Butterstix2014 Must have been something to do with Saturn having more texture memory. Even the battle scenes and sprites had a higher resolution on the Saturn. Playstation maybe couldn't load enough different floor tiles into it's RAM for any one scene.

  • @DTM-Books
    @DTM-Books 3 года назад +7

    Saturn all the way. Duh! This videogame was created for Sega’s console and is clearly a labor of love. The PSX version is good, but lacks little details like shadows by the buildings snd the sensational VDP2 water effects. Background visuals in battle scenes are also slightly different. I also think the colors just pop a little more on Saturn. Again, not a huge difference, but it’s there.

  • @segasdreamer
    @segasdreamer 8 лет назад +5

    I think the biggest draw towards the Saturn for me is that fact that it has the true 2D sprite aspect ratio and the PSX version is stretched out. The Playstation 3D models look a little nicer because of the better 3D architecture, but given it's about sprite detail for characters, Saturn wins hands down.

    • @TS-yz3ud
      @TS-yz3ud 9 месяцев назад

      We would expect the 3D models to look better on the console with better 3D architechture, which (even if the Saturn was relatively more powerful) clearly describes the PS1. But, it doesn't seem to always be the case here, as the models seem to at least benefit from having straightened textures, no seams in between, and a higher resolution overall on the Saturn.

  • @djgamble07
    @djgamble07 Год назад +3

    Saturn gets the better textures, PSX gets transparencies as opposed to meshes. Haven't played on PSX but I suspect the later parts of the game where there's lotsa things glowing and lotsa transparencies will look much better on the PSX.

  • @lostboy626
    @lostboy626 4 года назад +13

    Just rewatched since the HD version is out now. Disappointed that they didn’t fix the floor. I know they said it was primarily based on the PS1 version, but they said they were modifying it to resemble the Saturn original.

    • @markellhawthorne2921
      @markellhawthorne2921 3 года назад +1

      I hear Saturn games are difficult to port, so that's probably why.

  • @matilija
    @matilija 7 лет назад +5

    I'm amazed that no one has taken and patched the Saturn version with the PS1 audio and text so that you could play the American version of the game on the Saturn.....

    • @Minns_du_mig
      @Minns_du_mig 5 лет назад +1

      Atleast a remaster is coming now!

  • @janny0079
    @janny0079 3 года назад +5

    i really love this game, i have finished it for 3 times and still very miss this game even now.

  • @joemaze6452
    @joemaze6452 6 лет назад +3

    I also noticed background clouds that are present in the Saturn version that's missing on the PlayStation version towards the end of the video.

  • @Meteotrance
    @Meteotrance 8 лет назад +16

    Pay close attention to the texture of the ground on the PS1, huge lack of RAM compare to the original Saturn version and the texture have higher resolution and the framerate of the Sega Saturn is by far much better.

  • @TheLastLineLive
    @TheLastLineLive 2 года назад +2

    Saturn wins overall definitely but the polygon based stuff does look less jagged on PS1. But the better sprite work and higher res make up for that easily on Saturn.

  • @nimaiiikun
    @nimaiiikun 8 лет назад +1

    pretty close, but the Saturn looks sharper.
    IRL, the PS1 always had this blurriness about it. not to the extent the N64 did, but it was noticeable compared to the Saturn.

  • @denverwood5290
    @denverwood5290 6 месяцев назад +1

    They both look really nice. I think the Saturn version looks better overall.

  • @alanmrtns61
    @alanmrtns61 7 лет назад +13

    Melhor RPG de todos os tempos, joguei a versao do Saturn a exaustão, zerei várias vezes. Depois por curiosidade, joguei a versão do Ps1 e nao gostei, cortaram muitas coisas e compensaram no melhoramento das magias. A versao do Saturn é única, fizeram um milagre de programação para esse jogo, até as CGis eram lindas para os padrões do Saturn, com poucas granulações. Esse jogo merecia um remake, com gráficos atuais e resolução maior.

    • @true-omegaid8467
      @true-omegaid8467 6 лет назад +3

      Acho Grandia melhor que Chrono Trigger.

    • @DhinCardoso
      @DhinCardoso 6 лет назад +2

      Vai sair REMAKE, vim aqui te dizer!!!!! =D

    • @alanmrtns61
      @alanmrtns61 4 года назад

      @@DhinCardoso Valeu. Tivemos um remaster baseada na versão do Ps1.

    • @lucasrinaldi9909
      @lucasrinaldi9909 2 года назад

      @@true-omegaid8467 Discutível.

    • @true-omegaid8467
      @true-omegaid8467 2 года назад +2

      @@lucasrinaldi9909 o sistema de batalha do Grandia é bem melhor que do CT, e lembrando que é a minha opinião não é a verdade absoluta.

  • @retroboy-fh1ji
    @retroboy-fh1ji 6 лет назад +11

    This is a game created with the 2 CPU's, so there is no surprise that the less powerful PSX can't handle some effects and framerate/resolution like the original Saturn version.

  • @Freshbrood
    @Freshbrood Год назад +2

    It looks fine on both. Which has more content?

  • @DemonDethchase
    @DemonDethchase 8 лет назад +5

    I wouldn't mind seeing the Saturn version being put out on PSN, the X-Box Marketplace or the Nintendo store

  • @abu269
    @abu269 8 лет назад +40

    The Saturn one looks better.

  • @mourguesguillaume5702
    @mourguesguillaume5702 7 лет назад +5

    Also the ground in the first city is better textured in Saturn version. In ps1, texture are repetitive, and confusing for the orientation.

    • @mourguesguillaume5702
      @mourguesguillaume5702 4 месяца назад

      And we can see the texture layout in PS1 manual game.
      and switch remaster dindn't took the Saturn textures.

  • @hellucination9905
    @hellucination9905 6 месяцев назад +1

    The lighting and colors of the Saturn version are better in building an immersive atmosphere.

  • @cristianramallo8042
    @cristianramallo8042 Год назад +1

    porque sera que todo en ps1 se ve mas borroso, incluso las texturas de los modelos 3d

  • @ZombifiedDuder
    @ZombifiedDuder 2 года назад +7

    The PS1 might have technically more impressive real-time shadows, but I actually prefer the Saturn's big bold circular shadows.
    If you ask me, the circular shadows just flow better with the sprites from a design perspective, being clear and readable as shadows.
    On the PS1, the shadows tend to get lost behind the sprites, and it just looks kind of like weird things jutting out of the sprites themselves.

    • @lambasted6886
      @lambasted6886 Год назад

      What's funny is that the PS1 is only a half step to how shadows work making them seem more out of place. The shadows in that version rotate with the camera suggesting that the sun is fixed to its orientation, which is not accurate to life. The shadows from the Saturn version are a better abbreviation as opposed to drawing attention to a limitation.

    • @EliteGamersUnited
      @EliteGamersUnited Год назад

      i 100% agree, were going for animated fantasy look, not hyper realism. the shadows being character accurate n proportionate feel totally out of place

    • @Freshbrood
      @Freshbrood Год назад

      Which version has more content? i dont care about the graphics.

  • @BurritoKingdom
    @BurritoKingdom 6 лет назад +12

    Saturn version has a higher resolution. Just look at the sharpness of the text.

    • @TS-yz3ud
      @TS-yz3ud 4 года назад +1

      And everything else.

  • @EstefanyOP
    @EstefanyOP 4 года назад +5

    your a god for doing this I was just looking into this now and said "Nah no one made a comparison of the two" you proved me wrong

  • @chimeratcg07
    @chimeratcg07 3 года назад +2

    Saturn, no doubt about it. Saturn is a 2D 2.5D powerhouse.

  • @Ostnizdasht206
    @Ostnizdasht206 Год назад +3

    Higher resolution on the Saturn version or so it seems.

  • @Kentama
    @Kentama 4 года назад +4

    The PSX version seems to have better anti-aliasing. It's strange that the sprites also have proper shadows, but the buildings don't. Colors seem more washed out in the PSX version, but more bleedingly contrasty in the Saturn version. The sprites seem to be a higher resolution on Saturn. I feel like the PSX version is easier to look at, but the Saturn version has more details.

  • @Simpliband
    @Simpliband 8 лет назад +22

    it sucks this game never had a translation on saturn :(

  • @NickyBobby-wx6ig
    @NickyBobby-wx6ig 3 месяца назад

    The Sega version has better sprites because on the PSX version they used a filter to smoothen the pixelated look, which was a big mistake. But the PSX had the cabability of keeping that same pixelation.

  • @Drexdo
    @Drexdo 6 лет назад +2

    Really hoping the HD remaster is a combination of the better colors/shadows from the saturn version and the transparency from the PS1

  • @Gattsu83
    @Gattsu83 8 лет назад +6

    Not trying to be a fan boy but I truly think Sega should of developed some friendly development tools for the developers and continue the fight with the saturn against the PS1 and N64 because when push hard the saturn could compete with both outright.

    • @ultimonivel328
      @ultimonivel328 3 года назад

      Sega was the first to leave Saturn when she decided that her future was in the Dreamcast. He died very early from Sega's incompetence.

  • @mazinxx
    @mazinxx 7 лет назад +1

    プレステ版のがポリゴン自体はきれいだけど、サターン版の方が2Dキャラの表示が全体的にクリア、建物の影の表現がしっかり出てる。
    やはりサターンのが好きだ‼

  • @retroboy-fh1ji
    @retroboy-fh1ji 6 лет назад +5

    another example of the Saturn superiority over PSX. This is clearly using the 2 CPU's and the effects missing on the PSX port really showed that.

  • @The_Soulbutcher
    @The_Soulbutcher 6 лет назад +3

    I do see differences but some stuff i like on the ps1 more than the saturn and vice versa. Plus there is no english version of the saturn version. Other than that no huge differences so i am happy with my ps1 copy. At least the ps1 port did not get completely ugly like Grandia 2 did for the ps2.

  • @Taitorama
    @Taitorama 8 лет назад +7

    Deveria ter feito ao menos uma batalha pra mostrar as diferenças.

  • @sinister8739
    @sinister8739 8 лет назад +7

    Em alguns momentos a versão Saturn parece ter mais elementos no cenário, em outros o PSX. Mas de um modo geral o jogo é melhor no Saturn mesmo. Esse game bateu de frente com FFVII e muita gente diz que é bem melhor que o game da Square.
    Essa conversão pra PSX chegou atrasada, mas deve ter vindo com alguns extras...

    • @true-omegaid8467
      @true-omegaid8467 6 лет назад +4

      O jogo foi projetado para o Saturn é obvio que ia ficar melhor, a versão do PS1 é um porte, e em relação ao FF7 olha joguei ambos ,o sistema de batalha do Grandia é melhor, mas a história do FF7 está anos luz á frente de Grandia os personagens do Grandia são bem sem carisma não tem nem comparação com os do FF7, fora que o Grandia é um jogo mais curto que o FF7, em fim eu prefiro de longe o FF7 mas claro essa é a minha opinião.

    • @gustavopetter4516
      @gustavopetter4516 5 лет назад

      Baita jogo, pra mim o melhor do ps1, história desenvolvimento, cenas engraçadas , pena q eh curto mas vale mt a pena

    • @augustosantos3302
      @augustosantos3302 3 года назад +2

      @@true-omegaid8467 bate de frente com Square Enix, em termos de HISTÓRIA é covardia. Os caras são simplesmente geniais em termos de sofisticação do roteiro. Pergunto-me porque nenhum autor tentou fazer uma franquia de livros do FF.
      .
      Grandia 1 teve o objetivo de ser uma história bem mais leve, bem infanto-juvenil mesmo, nada tão complexo e sofisticado como o que a SE demonstra desde o FF1.
      .
      É bonito por ser simples.

    • @true-omegaid8467
      @true-omegaid8467 3 года назад +1

      @@augustosantos3302 é a historia é infanto-juvenil mas é inferior a do FF7 não adianta inventar desculpa, quem fez a comparação não fui eu, eu só respondi o comentário do cara acima, que fez a comparação.

    • @augustosantos3302
      @augustosantos3302 2 года назад +2

      @@true-omegaid8467 sim, vc repetiu o que eu disse com outras palavras.

  • @jaspion14
    @jaspion14 5 месяцев назад +2

    Acredito que o jogo seja melhor no Saturno pois foi projetado pra ele e depois de um tempo portado para o PS1 se fosse o oposto acredito em uma melhor versão no PS1
    Mas nesse comparativo com certeza a melhor versão apresentada é no Sega Saturno

  • @Sabiol
    @Sabiol Год назад +1

    Saturn was really something in those times

  • @TylerSteven9
    @TylerSteven9 8 лет назад +9

    Would like to see some "blind" comparisons or at least start the video without revealing which side is which, to see if people can tell which ones are which. Cool video though.

    • @SketchTurnerZero
      @SketchTurnerZero 7 лет назад +1

      WOW! This is a great idea!!

    • @yanceyboyz
      @yanceyboyz 5 лет назад

      Very easy with this game, building shadows on Saturn and transparencies on PlayStation.

  • @MrTERRY002
    @MrTERRY002 7 лет назад +3

    Mesmo com suas limitações p/ o 3d o Sega Satunr ainda fez bonito neste jogo

  • @johnv7317
    @johnv7317 5 лет назад +2

    The new re-release of Grandia coming soon will Utilize both PlayStation and Sega Saturn source code.

    • @capcom23
      @capcom23 5 лет назад +1

      exactly

    • @doniarts
      @doniarts 3 года назад +2

      To bad it din't :'(

    • @Hausbrauen
      @Hausbrauen Год назад +1

      A shame this hd re-release turned out being terribIe. The original on Saturn is still the best version to date.

  • @davymachinegun5130
    @davymachinegun5130 7 лет назад +4

    Why is ground texture in Playstation version is all out of allignment?

    • @HappyBeezerStudios
      @HappyBeezerStudios 3 года назад

      I'm just guessing that the architecture required textures to be used a bit differently.

    • @Hausbrauen
      @Hausbrauen Год назад +1

      There's some gaming sites out there which visually compare the two versions of towns. Playstation's is simply a tiny repeating texture with no variation, covering the entire ground layer of the town. Saturn on the other hand, uses a far-higher-quality ground texture that is hand-crafted to fit around buildings, paths, and other objects. There's also a large grass portion that is completely absent on the Playstation version. It's all just a testament to how much more the Saturn could handle when it came to textures.

  • @patchesmcadams1587
    @patchesmcadams1587 6 лет назад +2

    Im wondering why they changed the streets between versions

    • @costumeninja1914
      @costumeninja1914 3 года назад +1

      Saturn VDP2 extra processor was better suited to handle ground and sky textures than the PS which lacked parallel processing...

  • @XbandTv
    @XbandTv Год назад +1

    Wow the sprites are way less blurry on Saturn

  • @calebchild4467
    @calebchild4467 2 года назад +1

    You're kidding me! The ENTIRE GROUND is misaligned?!

    • @reservoirdog1
      @reservoirdog1 2 года назад

      never had a ps1? polygon warpIng was very common

    • @calebchild4467
      @calebchild4467 2 года назад

      @@reservoirdog1 That's not polygon warping, that's the texture entirely misplaced. It's not even close to the same thing.

  • @rerolol
    @rerolol 4 года назад +1

    I remebered that voice acting was terrible in the US version. Either way the gameplay is great for classic psx rpg back in the day.

  • @ultraokletsgo
    @ultraokletsgo Месяц назад

    John Linneman exaggerated quite a bit, the Saturn version does looks better, but the PSX is no where near as bad as he made it out to be.

  • @DraganBlom
    @DraganBlom 4 года назад

    Saturn is sharper, and from 4.11 on you can see the polys showing white lines between two poly's which is absent with the original.

  • @filevans
    @filevans 11 месяцев назад

    could you do *Trash It* comparison please

  • @bongparty
    @bongparty Год назад

    Not surprisingly the psx looks better for the 3D and the Saturn for the 2D

  • @feps9555
    @feps9555 7 лет назад +10

    Saturn Wins nas mãos certas este console produzia maravilhas, meu console favorito.

  • @Kevin_40
    @Kevin_40 8 лет назад +14

    Saturn a touch sharper

    • @mtoad
      @mtoad 8 лет назад +3

      +Kevin Christensen It probably has to do with the capture. In RGB the PS1 version looks razor sharp, just like the saturn version.

  • @PS3ClassicGamesHD
    @PS3ClassicGamesHD 6 месяцев назад +1

    Sega looks so much better

  • @jason.kchantziaras8456
    @jason.kchantziaras8456 Месяц назад +1

    vote goes to the Saturn it looks amazing !! Playstation verson everything looks worse

  • @gabriel21501
    @gabriel21501 8 лет назад +7

    Faz uma outra comparação depois das batalhas das magias
    ali vc vê uma diferença melhor,zerei esse jogo 2x no Sega Saturn quando lançou e 1x no Playstation,um dos melhores RPGs que já joguei,muito melhor que FFVII,muito maneiro seu canal! ganhou um inscrito =]

    • @vcdecide
      @vcdecide  8 лет назад +3

      +Gabriel Dias blz, farei sim depois ^^, e tb acho o Grandia mais divertido e imersivo que o FFVII :P

    • @sheltontristania
      @sheltontristania 7 лет назад +1

      Gabriel Dias os efeitos de água da versão saturno( que são os mesmos do Panzer Dragoon Zweii) deixam o Playstation no chinelo, mas nas batalhas play vence com efeitos de luz nas magoas, apesar das batalhas terem menos resolução que as de Saturno

    • @maricate
      @maricate 7 лет назад

      O Grandia do Saturn era só JP ou tinha Americano tbm?

    • @true-omegaid8467
      @true-omegaid8467 7 лет назад +2

      O sistema de batalha de Grandia é seu ponto forte, mas a história dele é bem bobinha e o que ele mais peca é a falta de desafios ele tem poucas side quest e isso o FF7 deixa ele no chinelo.

    • @mopeybloke
      @mopeybloke 6 лет назад +1

      A única coisa em que Final Fantasy VII perde para Grandia é ser um RPG com sprites e cenários em 3D. E se quiser jogar um, melhor jogar Xenogears.

  • @Funkdoc22
    @Funkdoc22 Год назад +1

    Wow..... the Saturn version actually beats the PS here.... more defined visuals and way more of a color pop on the Saturn!!! 👏👏👏 The Saturn clearly takes the win here in my book!!

    • @doniarts
      @doniarts Год назад +1

      Well it is the original version

    • @Hausbrauen
      @Hausbrauen Год назад +2

      Yep, Saturn beat Playstation much of the time. It's strange how often I see lgnorant normies who have no cIue how good the Saturn really was, so they just assume it was bad.

  • @RetrOrigin
    @RetrOrigin 8 лет назад +5

    Saturn has building shadows.
    PS1 has better character shadows and transparencies.
    Framerate is about the, a tad bit slower on the Saturn but almost identical in performance.
    Loading is better on PS1.

    • @quatjohn4375
      @quatjohn4375 7 лет назад +5

      I think you mean that the other way around. The Saturn loads about 5 seconds faster

  • @LucaKrive
    @LucaKrive 7 лет назад +14

    Saturn is superior to Playstation for 3D Graphics and Audio standard in Duke Nukem, Exhumed, Last Bronx, Choro q, Burning Rangers, Ninpen, Nights, Panzer D. Saga, Anarchy in the Nippon, Grandia, Sport, or Resident Evil - Clockwork Knight 2 - etc on photorealistic look... Ps. for controller too.

    • @Takemetoaride
      @Takemetoaride 6 лет назад +2

      eeeeh, the resident evil port for saturn honestly is way to inferior to ps1, plus the saturn controller is good for fighting games and some arcade games but not for action games

    • @retroboy-fh1ji
      @retroboy-fh1ji 6 лет назад

      Takemetoaride Capcom didn't knew how to develop 3D for Saturn, so they ported pretty poorly the PSX version with not optimization at all, also they downgraded the graphics despite the fact that Saturn has way more powerful capabilities than PlayStation.

    • @ciredecgellar8232
      @ciredecgellar8232 6 лет назад +1

      The Saturn's resident Evil Port is excellent, there some difference with the PS1 version. I don't think it's a superior version but it's definitly not an inferior one.

    • @stephentrader9142
      @stephentrader9142 6 лет назад

      Honestly they didn't take full advantage of ps1. Look at ff9 and chrono cross

  • @E180TEKNO
    @E180TEKNO 4 года назад

    it's me or many pixel on support saturn ?

  • @MarcinMski
    @MarcinMski 7 лет назад +4

    Saturn have clouds 4:22

    • @maxidiaz8729
      @maxidiaz8729 5 лет назад

      That day was clear in the PSX version

    • @Hausbrauen
      @Hausbrauen Год назад +1

      @@maxidiaz8729 lol! nice save

  •  8 лет назад

    just different shadows, saturn with ambient occlussion and psx with accurate character shadows

  • @aryinc
    @aryinc 8 лет назад +11

    saturn all the way, lighter colours''as usual when something is compared to playstation consoles'' and less blurred textures. better use of 2d and just sharper overal, only thing playstation alsways have over sega saturn is transparancies.

    • @highonaids6510
      @highonaids6510 7 лет назад +5

      Eh, I'm quite sure the transparency effects were just altered and "intensified" (i.e more transparent) in the PSX version. I'm not 100% sure, but from what I remember the Saturn has an easier time dealing with transparency effects.
      In the Saturn version you can see that the text box is transparent, but it is intensified in the PSX.
      PSX version also has different ground textures for some odd reason, both versions have the same style, but the layout is quite different. I think the Saturn version also has some textures that are just flat out better resolution-wise.
      The battles in the Saturn version aren't like the PSX version. The PSX version displays a 2D background, while the Saturn is either mostly or somewhat 3D. Battles just look a lot better on the Saturn, PSX version looks super bad, it's honestly my only gripe w/ the PSX version.
      From what I've seen of the Saturn version, it appears to be crisper and a tiny bit more vibrant.
      PSX version just flat out has some background elements missing (Clouds during the opening, see: 4:20 ... Lol, what a timestamp).
      The Saturn version's victory screen text box' looks a lot better imo.
      PSX version casts shadows more realistically in and out of battles on sprites, whereas the Saturn version only does so in battle.
      Saturn version casts shadows off of buildings, PSX version does not.
      I think the Saturn version has an overall more stable frame rate.

    • @aryinc
      @aryinc 7 лет назад +3

      saturn still is a mighty console ^^.

    • @henfjo
      @henfjo 7 лет назад +1

      The saturn has problems displaying transparencies, but it's still a mighty 2D powerhouse in it's time

    • @aryinc
      @aryinc 7 лет назад

      *****
      true, it could do it and in the hands of expoerts even very well. burning rangers is a technical marvel with the use of transparancies and guardian heroes also does it really nice. But with 2d the saturn owns all.

    • @retroboy-fh1ji
      @retroboy-fh1ji 6 лет назад

      arjan snijder yeah, but Burning Rangers sacrified a los during the process because used transparencies by software rendering instead of taking advantage of the interpolation of VDP1 and VDP2.

  • @Juliano77777
    @Juliano77777 8 лет назад +2

    Não mãos certas saia maravilhas para o Saturn, esse é um grande exemplo!

  • @MrTERRY002
    @MrTERRY002 7 лет назад

    Vc decide, depois faz o Grandia 2, versão Dream cast vs ps2! O Dream vai arrebentar.

  • @TheEarthRealm
    @TheEarthRealm Год назад +1

    Wow, the PlayStation's version takes so long to load... 😅

  • @YURIMAKERSTUDIOS
    @YURIMAKERSTUDIOS 6 лет назад

    Sei que o Playstation 1 foi um console melhor, mas quem sabia trabalhar no Saturn, extraia o que o PSX não podia fazer.

  • @abewyrmbane6283
    @abewyrmbane6283 Год назад

    Why did the ps1 and subsequent Switch remaster just fuck the floor tiles of the town up? Total random placement, looks like the town got wrecked by a giant toddler who doesn’t know how shapes go together 😂

  • @humhum2
    @humhum2 3 года назад

    The ps version shadow has been removed..

  • @TheHotAndColdDog
    @TheHotAndColdDog 8 лет назад

    The Saturn version wins, although this opening might not be a good example of that. Clearly, the Saturn version's framerate is longer in this opening. It would've have been better to see the battle gameplay comparison, because that is where the Saturn version shines.

  • @inerteinthenight
    @inerteinthenight 3 года назад +1

    A simple vista parecen muy similares. Al entrar en detalles, la versión de Saturn es superior.

  • @chriswinfield5521
    @chriswinfield5521 Год назад

    Thay bos hav pros and cons but i have to go with the saturn version

  • @godzilla7391
    @godzilla7391 8 лет назад

    Saturn actually has shadows. Where were the Playstations shadows? I prefer the Saturn and it's one of my favorite systems, but the Playstation usually wins ,especially when it comes to transparencies, which the Saturn had a hard time doing. Although Burning Rangers did good using them

    • @gabrieleriva651
      @gabrieleriva651 7 лет назад +1

      The Saturn shadows were pre-baked on the ground, which was manipolated by the 2d co-processor, in a kind of Mode7 available on the Saturn. On the PS1, it's all real-time 3d rendering by the CPU.

    • @godzilla7391
      @godzilla7391 7 лет назад

      Gabriele Riva aah. Good info there. Love my Saturn though. Seems like Blazing Rangers Did a great Job With the Saturn hardware.

    • @Tornado1994
      @Tornado1994 6 лет назад +1

      Nope. The PS1 is using a phony dither shadow effect. Saturn is using actual shading and Dithers.

    • @Hausbrauen
      @Hausbrauen Год назад +2

      @@Tornado1994 ^ This... thank you. It's amazing how much lgnorance there is out there, people not having a cIue how good the Saturn actually was.

    • @Tornado1994
      @Tornado1994 Год назад

      @@Hausbrauen You're Welcome! Many Homebrewers are discovering the Trade Secrets of the Saturn and how completely UNDERULITIZED the Hardware was. Its True Power was NEVER fully utilized. Saturn was Versatile and far more capable then people thing.

  • @ArveEriksson
    @ArveEriksson 7 лет назад +1

    LOL! Saturn beats PSX because shadows! :-) I can't decide what system outputs the better colours, though... I see a slight difference, but I don't know how to judge it.

  • @shaggymcdaniel3216
    @shaggymcdaniel3216 4 года назад +1

    You can finally buy the Sega Saturn English translation on Etsy RIGHT NOW! I sure did.

    • @Kensterrrrr
      @Kensterrrrr 3 года назад

      Got mine there too. Love Etsy for that stuff. Got shining force 3 and dragon force 2 translation there also.

  • @cbxade
    @cbxade 7 лет назад +3

    Saturn looks sharper

  • @vasileios6301
    @vasileios6301 6 лет назад +1

    Saturn seems a bit better but the whole point of this fantastic game and one of the best rpgs ever made,is that for us westerners the Psx version is the port we all played and the wanted one even today,since Saturn version is only in japanese language and that makes it unplayable for most of us.
    I wonder why they havent fan-translated yet,since all the english text is ready on the Psx version.

    • @capcom23
      @capcom23 5 лет назад +1

      they have english dub version though... JP voices with English subs.....go search undub grandia

  • @EduardoSilva-ze8tp
    @EduardoSilva-ze8tp 4 года назад

    Os gráficos 3d do PlayStation são ligeiramente mais limpos e com cores vivas

  • @whyjustwhy6653
    @whyjustwhy6653 8 лет назад +3

    Saturn. Hands down.

  • @altiereslima
    @altiereslima 7 лет назад

    O de playstation parece que tem um filtro pra suavizar.

  • @KylecWoodland
    @KylecWoodland 7 лет назад +1

    Saturn vers. wayyy better. better lighting, shading, and the ground texure is placed wrong in PSX vers.

  • @attilathehun0
    @attilathehun0 2 года назад

    Saturn is better, because it's sharper.

  • @marilynkang
    @marilynkang Месяц назад

    so many different!

  • @bizarroeddie1
    @bizarroeddie1 8 лет назад

    A comparação acaba sendo meio inútil já que não mostra as batalhas.
    O PS1 tem efeitos de magia melhores mas as lutas rodam em resolução menor.
    A água tem diferenças gritantes... tem um outro canal que fez uma comparação extensa desse jogo. O ideal é jogar no PS1 em inglês e saber o que fazer, depois repetir o procedimento no Saturn.

    • @vcdecide
      @vcdecide  8 лет назад

      não acho que essa comparação seja inútil, pois nela podemos perceber várias diferença entre as versões, no Saturn há sombras no cenários q não há no Ps1, e no PS1 os personagens possuem sombras em formas ''real'' enquanto que no Saturn é uma esfera, além de outras diferenças que não cabe a mim ficar citando.... pois o proposito dos videos é o próprio pessoal descobrir as diferenças por si e assim treinar seu ''poder'' de observação. há muitas diferenças nesse video (mas isso cabe ao poder de observação de cada um).

    • @bizarroeddie1
      @bizarroeddie1 8 лет назад

      Canal Vc Decide
      sim, mas há taaaaaaaaaaaaaaaantas mais diferenças que acabam ficando de fora...

    • @vcdecide
      @vcdecide  8 лет назад +1

      Produn LoL quanto ao som, basta usar fone de ouvido, sendo que o lado esquerdo do fone de ouvido corresponde ao som do Saturn, e o lado direito do fone de ouvido corresponde ao som do Playstation, o mesmo conceito vale para os outros videos do canal :P assim é possível escutar os sons em separados da maneira como preferir ^^
      basta tirar da orelha um dos lados que não quer ouvir

    • @31leoceara
      @31leoceara 7 лет назад

      Outra diferença: as texturas do PS1 apresentam as famosas distorções, bem visíveis aos 1:07 e 1:18, por exemplo.

  • @KupoxChan
    @KupoxChan 3 года назад +1

    To all those people who say the textures in saturn version have higher resolution.. I ripped textures from both versions and they are exactly the same. Its just the way how both consoles handles their textures. Obviously the ps1 blurs their textures to have softer transitions. But the raws are the same

    • @Hausbrauen
      @Hausbrauen Год назад +2

      No, many textures on Saturn were indeed superior... this 100% depends on which textures you're looking at. Many textures were identical, while many others were more detailed and larger on Saturn. For example, the texture for the battle map was much lower res on the Playstation, which was very noticable. This is very well documented on various retro gaming sites.

  • @eddieble024
    @eddieble024 2 года назад

    My favorite rpg in the world.

  • @bauerjonson
    @bauerjonson 8 лет назад +2

    A Versão Sega Saturn parece ter mais efeitos de sombra

  • @Dagoth_Ur_1
    @Dagoth_Ur_1 26 дней назад

    The differences are almost non existent, seems this was done well on both consoles.

  • @needphael26
    @needphael26 6 лет назад

    O Saturno arregaçava no 2D/2.5D.

  • @nicolassky4144
    @nicolassky4144 8 лет назад +5

    The Psx version looks better than Saturn. I enjoyed this game on Psx.

    • @AnImperfectSoul
      @AnImperfectSoul 8 лет назад +9

      psx missing ground textures, good smog effects from chimneys, a sky box, shadows and lower quality blurring sprites. ok

    • @kenny0989_
      @kenny0989_ 8 лет назад +5

      And drops fps

    • @ciredecgellar8232
      @ciredecgellar8232 6 лет назад +1

      if you like unfinished game ....

    • @Hausbrauen
      @Hausbrauen Год назад +1

      Because it's the version you're most used to -- aka nostalgia.

  • @Mistraker
    @Mistraker 7 лет назад

    I think I would have been satisfied with either, but in this case, the Saturn seems to edge out, what with the buildings having shadows, and the slightly sharper, brighter textures. The PS has better character shadows, though.

  • @lfefer
    @lfefer 3 года назад

    Already play the Saturn Versión After Years... and PSX is a fake success... if only Sega Japan had the brain... in time.