Been playing blizzard games long enough to know: A. 10 percent of what they said they would do, they will do. B. They are only sorry because they got caught. C. They definitely will do this again.
@@sethryder9532 game pre-patch was fun. Post-patch, it’s not fun at all. It feels like a boring and tiresome chore. I’m just forcing myself to play while waiting for a couple other games to launch.
D4 felt too easy. I don't want to feel so overpowered that nothing is challenging. THATS not fun to me, it's repetitive and boring. I like the changes. Sorry not sorry. I'm not a wuss 😅
If D4 was an early access game, and Blizzard was a small indie studio, this stream would make perfect sense, but when we're talking about one of the biggest names in the industry and their work on a fourth iteration in a huge franchise, it doesn't
@@CostelloDamian You are 100% wrong dude! EVERY CHANGE THEY ARE MAKING IS TO KEEP YOU ON THEIR SERVERS LONGER! AND TO BUY THEIR PREMIUM PASS! THAT'S WHY IT SUCKS SO BAD AND THEY REFUSE TO CHANGE IT!
I agree with Asmon on Uniques being Pinnacle Content. It brings me back to the old days of like the N64 Era where you beat the game and unlock the cheat menu or something. "Congrats, you beat the end of the game and beat the secret boss. There's no challenge left, so here's Bobble Head, Infinite Ammo, Invincibility, Enemies explode into Confetti, Super Speed, and all enemies are dinosaurs modes!" It's like "Cool, you beat every challenge we had to offer. Now have some stupid goofy fun as thanks for playing the game!" It's something you don't see often these days and I miss it.
That was back in the day when the company got all it's profit from the initial sale, and if it was good, sequals. That was also the time when the game was more likely to be a finished product by the time we got it. That slowly faded as release dates became more important than quality. Case in point, we spent $70+ to be beta testers. 1 whale is worth more than the fishing village.
I LOVED how Black Flag had the Poseidon cheat code ingame after you got far enough that made the seas a permanent hurricane turned it on and went and did the legendary ship battles in it felt like i was in pirates of the Caribbean at worlds end lol
@@subzero308 I really don't understand people like you who make the generalization that gaming today sucks and is a joke when you can choose to play thousands of extremely good games that do not have any of these problems. This is the golden era of gaming. Thousands of games that are top tier are in your finger tips and you choose to play crap. Why?
@HeartbrokenHeartshooter we only have the board and 2 wheels, the back right and front left. They have to patch the game to add in the others but this patch chipped the wood so if we try doing a kickflip itll break the board :((
"Why did you guys lengthen the cast timer for teleport?" "Well, we did add in the reset dungeon button again." I sometimes find it hard to believe that Blizzard is an actual company being run by real people and not just some figment of my imagination.
I think it makes dungeons feel harder, especially in hardcore since you can't port out as easily. I can't say if this is good or bad, depends on how hard you want the game to be
to pad player time for player retention numbers for shareholders, ect. unless my math is wrong 100k people waiting an extra 2 seconds equites to 55 hours.
Abused? LOL, does anyone making these statements play Arpgs? Cause its not an abuse to use a multiplier which you KNOW in turn boosts your damage. Now was it a good idea to add that affix/ stat into the game no. They stat bloated the game to make rerolling stats more of a pain and only out come to me is they wanted you to farm longer to try to get the better %s.
@@arcticstriker7377 don’t think they know what they are doing. It looks like they just saw a spread sheet and nerfed every popular stat 🤷♂️. It’s like a never ending beta
@@arcticstriker7377you win sir. All these staunch defenders of Blizzard when they release a game half done and the other half are boring artificial bloats and/or limitations.
I’ll translate the whole thing for you: We had no plans for season one at launch. We focussed on making the base game the best it could be after the beta tests and player feedback. We had no idea what to do for season one while you guys were playing the game. We made a few more tweaks to the game and wrote some more code. We made several different versions of seasonal content and tested each version on a test server and found that the balance wouldn’t work with the seasonal content. So rather than change seasonal content we wrote more code and nerfed everything. Now we have implemented the rush job of seasons into the game our code looks like a big bowl of spaghetti. This is why you can have just one stash tab and why there are memory problems with the game. Now we can fix this but we will need a few weeks to sort it as we have to unravel the spaghetti, sort it all out, balance the game, sort out all the bugs we put in with all the new code we put in as well as keep an eye on what you are all up to in season one. But rest assured we will fix this. We just have no idea how right now.
Or even shorter version. “We don’t know our own game well enough to balance it, the community is pissed because we nerfed the only ~viable~ builds and we have no idea how to fix this buy please don’t leave us”
I always found "balance" the factor that killed D3 for me. They released soo many patches "balancing" the game, which made story mode unplayable, coz everything died so quickly.. it was just a pointless few hours run to "endgame" content. Why can't they create a version for story that is just balanced or the "vanilla" and create a new version with idk "buffs/nerf' status effects that will simply fit the weird twists they planning on introducing to seasonal content. Doesn't have to be even version. At the creation screen you should have option for "Campain" no changes to characters and "Seasonal" where "buffs/nerf" are applied to classes...
I mean the easiest fix is just nerfing chars on the seasonal realms (just adding defuffs for each class no extra coding) and bam seasonal servers are balanced and people on eternals don't get shafted...
Yep - Beta 'tests': all two of them. Can anyone spot the problem here? We're so used to excrement launches that when a game actually works we seem to forget that it's not a reason to light fireworks. Poor, poor, and poor!
They literally admitted that it was fun and that they knew the patch would make for a bad experience, yet they still did it. This is all I need to know to move onto a different game. Time is precious.
@@diablodegen1167Right, Kerrigan I mean Sylvanas I mean Lilith are so well written and the cutscenes are definitely not recycled Blizzard slop. Banger storyboarding right there. You are part of the problem.
Not this teams fault...but i really fucking hated when they turned sc2 into wc3... Its really like entire company only has a few good story ideas and they jam them into everything they touch
It's the face of a man who's being made to sit a defend things he doesn't believe; all while earning 30% less than his peers at studios within 10 miles of him. Then people wonder why Blizzard games are crap. What kind of whipping boys would stay at such a place?
Devs: we are not trying to slow down the game Me: Click malignant heart after clearing all the mobs and the elite that holds it, new elite takes forever to spawn while i wait doing nothing
I bet they increased the leave dungeon timer so next season they will start selling portal effects like in diablo immortal, so you can "take your time to look at the pretty portal".
@@TapiKoksI already have over 100 hours just with act1 in bg3, the release will be absolutely great. Original sin 2 was the best crpgnof it's time, so saying bg3 is like d:os2.5 is a compliment in my book lol
@@hungrykoala1293 Exactly, lol. Dark Souls formula was used in bout 7 of their games and all (cept for 2) have been praised and even awarded. Saying BG3 is Divinity 2.5 is a positive, not a negative. Divinity 2 is still the best CRPG I've ever played. Had aprox. 150 hours in 2 weeks
i dont even play diablo 4 i just watch your videos and i am FASCINATED by the way they dodged the question on the "leave dungeon" cast time, or whatever it is - the one that wnet from 3 to 5 ... that was INSANE ... he basically just said "yeah we are really wasting your time and we don't have a reason"
My biggest concern is the decision making process that led to them thinking it was a great idea to nerf current characters in preparation for nerfs to content difficulty months later. Quite frankly, it seems highly unlikely anyone would make that conclusion and it feels more like they are grasping for excuses to explain away decisions that the player base reacted poorly to. A reasonable person would have nerfed character damage and content difficulty simultaneously if that was truly the original intent.
I find it baffling how they are adjusting the difficulty levels to that extent AFTER they released the game, of course little tweaks here and there are normal, but my god seems like they have no idea what they’re doing, just blindly making changes in hopes it’ll sort itself out.
@@italianspiderman5012 They dont have the slightest clue what they are doing, all those people left blizz years ago and doesnt help this is basically a 3rd party game produced in asia for asian markets. Its not a game made for the western world.
What's weirder is they seem to want the look and feel of a diablo game, basic bitch, to the letter arpg bones, YET wanna monetize it like a Chinese game, have the well thought out gameplay of a souls game or Lost Ark mechanics, and have tons of builds like a souls game where you could spend tons of time crafting a build. Which WILL NOT WORK under the current Blizzard direction, monetary systems forcing changes to make the game worse/grindy, and a lack of understanding about what all those other games and ARPGs did.
@@italianspiderman5012 It had to be done after release since Blizzard had no way of knowing which metas would form and around which builds. And since most if not all of the top tier builds demand you to apply vulnurability to the mobs to make a dent most other builds become useless- this is why the nerf happened. The nerfs were also meant to be accompanied by nerf to NMD70-100, but it got delayed, which makes it look like all Blizzard wanted to do was nerf us for no reason when in reality they wanted to bring *everything* back in line so they can push buffs for specs that are currently underutilized. As an example it might now be viable to run a blood spear build instead of bone spear build on necro- now that there is a really good aspect for it and now that vulnurability isn't as powerful. The fact that they just rolled all of this out without first telling anyone though is really bad communication and the backlash (though a bit overblown imo) is well deserved.
@@GenomeSoldierDK man, they designed the game, they should know what builds and abilities are “meta” what works and what doesn’t, the only reason they are doing balance patches of this magnitude is because they didn’t test the game, you are testing it, ffs people stop, just stop.
I knew this would happen and it's exactly why I refunded d4 after I played the beta. Wouldn't let them get me again after D3. Blizzard is just a shell of its former self, people need to stop giving them their money.
I didn't, I'm only coming here to understand why people still get scammed after all the mayhem Blizz has caused over the past years. Seems gamers have Stockholm syndrome. That prevents game industry to raise their standards if players like to eat shit all day and ask for more.
This season 1 is gonna hold this game back of what could have been a triumph for Blizzard in years. Getting people to play again after they quit is way harder than keeping existing players.
I feel 100% the same about that change so much that is by far the main reason I won't be playing season 1. It's a matter of not wasteing my time for no benefit. If they had an explanation to why they changed it they would have said what it was when the question was brought up.
@@eVisolpxe this is such a petty childish response. Lol You have every right to feel that way and not play but wooow is it childish to call this small reason why you aren't gonna play.... Like c'mon bud.
@@Giliverdude. Think bigger. It isn't that this seemingly small change is itself intolerable. It's the principle as to why they made such a change and how pervasive those principles are in the overall game design. They want to slow you down. That's antithetical to the fun and alure of arpgs. That small change is simply the final straw. Stop simping. Actually think through your own thoughts before you react. You aren't getting paid for hot takes.
The problem with Necro minion builds is that it's the inverse of multiplicative damage. If you are just about any other build you get to do 100% of your damage, or a relatively close number to all of your targets. When you play minions, your damage is primarily divided into your minions amongst the number of targets you're facing. Combine this with the fact that you can not direct your minions towards a target, and you get a build that's worthless & frustrating.
I've found that my damage as a minion build necro vs 1 target is perfectly fun to play. My experience when facing a multitude of enemies, often times combined with a specific enemy that needs to be downed first, which is 80%% of the gameplay, I am constantly frustrated.
This is why the necro minion build in D3 had it's ability cast to focus your skeletons to attack a target. The set bonus for it made it become unlmited duration and jumps to another target when it's dead. The ability let you redirect them to a specific target. Simple fix: replace the "priest buffing" when at max skeletons to "direct skeletons to attack", no corpse needed. Or even just add the function that when you use the ability on an enemy instead of a corpse it directs them (don't even need to touch the priest part). Maybe add an aspect that makes them stay in focused attack and auto-re-target to another nearby enemy when the target dies. This would make minions fun to play again.
I hate the fact that they wanna nerf cooldowns, but make every damn character have abilities that you wanna burst out for as much damage as quickly as possible. Meaning there is like 20 seconds often times in between triggers without cooldown reductions. That's insane. If they wanna have long as cooldown times like in WoW then they need to have a spell rotation for these classes.
@@kennethnoisewater4423 thats an insult to d3. while developing d4 they slowly solved many of the problems they are having for diablo 4 in d3's season patches. so they in reality copied a fan fiction and tried to pass it off as non fiction >_
@@Everlucky_Cloverthey solved many of the problems from d3? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
@@kfactor99 they solved teleporting around in d3 by having way more of them. they made exiting dungeons easy in d3. they solved extra shitty gear. they solved stash space( and should have never relied on stupid forms of fake space in d4). the color lighting not being permanently grey and foggy grey made visibility easier. they didnt have fights where you spent the entire battle stunned/froze/feared for 2 mins straight. they had actual mob density. even though classes got hit with the nerf hammer they almost never fucked with how often you could cast an ability and continued to make it decent intervals to cast your stuffs. they never just straight up said "they are dealing too much damage NERF EVERYTHING AND BUFF THE MONSTERS!!!!" gear after the expansion had relevent stats instead of reverting to mish mash bullshittery. so sure d3 isnt perfect and the infinite paragon thing is silly but they had 10 fucking years of time spent looking at the d3 changes and chose "you know what building on our phone game infrastructure from 2 years ago is worth more than what we already have seen the player base enjoys!"
@@Everlucky_Clover I think D4s biggest problem right now is that item affixes are boring. so many mid activities and they all directly reward the same boring items. that would at least make their current half baked design more fun.
Being on the outside looking into this dumpster fire that is D4 is the absolute best perspective for my sanity. Guys maybe in 2 years it will be good, cheaper, and worth playing. Thanks everyone who bought it early to play test. You all are the real ones.
Amen. Overwatch 2 is coming out on steam, so hopefully that means I can pick up D4 at a 50% sale for Christmas or summer or something later down the line. Forget pre-ordering, I just flat out don't buy games anymore until they've been "playtested" by the... ya know... paying audience. Why pay someone to be given the privilege of tedting their game? They're supposed to pay YOU for that.
D4 felt too easy. I don't want to feel so overpowered that nothing is challenging. THATS not fun to me, it's repetitive and boring. I like the changes. Sorry not sorry. I'm not a wuss 😅
@@ud0ntevenkn0wmeuh the game isn't harder lol it's just slower and boring now bruh come on. If they change the top end in response to their changes this is just damage control. This game is dead. Blizzard is dead.
We've been having a lot of conversations about this (but we've taken no action, we have no plan to take action, we have just been talking a lot about it)
This game wasn't just a copy and paste from D3. They had to incorporate new functions to make this cake not burn in the oven. Online play, customization, then with new enemy models that are packed in groups that are "suppose" to read the players play style and counter to that in game, in game cash store..yeah I know, I know, but still viable for those interested (gear does look nice for paying up real $$ as well, I will say (in some areas). We can rant for as long as it took to make the game. It's only been a month! Let it simmer and soak in the juices, and we'll be ok here in the coming days. Breath in, Breath out. Thank you.
upper management at blizzard just has no idea what's going on. they learned nothing from diablo 3. diablo 4 offers very little in terms of groundbreaking features compared to previous titles, missing many features previous titles had, and is riddled with so many bugs. upper management coinflipped d4's design repeatedly, putting it into development hell for years, then forced it out the door before it was ready. they did the same thing with diablo 3. they did the same thing with overwatch 2. we as a community are having to actively co-design their game for them because upper management is actively screwing up every game the devs make.
@@andresgonzalez5676 that's the downside of getting too big. the suits arent directly involved with the games anymore. they just make all the (usually bad) executive decisions that makes the developers look poorly and punishes the fanbase/community.
Idk man, it’s not like developers are blameless here, they should speak up and I’m not sure if they do, do they even care? I don’t think so at this point, everything they do is about player retention, to manipulate you, take advantage of you, you think higher ups are designing all those systems?
As a once die hard fan since WC1 I can't deny that i kind of enjoy watching the whole castle of cards going down in flames its just so glorious shitshow that never seems to end.
Challenging content is not the same as just making everything take long and making everyone do less damage. I think more than anything actman was angry at the entire game filled with grindable trash mobs and relatively few/weak bosses. To amswer actmans complaint would require ALL enemy designs changed, which would then also need player power adjusted.... Which is NOT what the update did.
@@vissermatt1058 I don't think blizzard's nerfs had anything to do with act man's criticism in reality. A monkey's paw is a fictional wish-granting item that will grant any wish it is asked, but always through methods that are worse off. Example: A woman wishes she had $5000 right away. Her loving husband ends up dying in a workplace accident, and the worker's comp insurance sends her a check for $5000. It's always a situation that makes you regret wishing, there's never a reason to wish on a monkey's paw because it will always be worse off in the end. And its kinda what happened, like there was a monkey's paw under act man's desk he didn't know about when he was making his video
devs have pretty high dodge stats edit: i feel they are relying on cc and 'numbers difficulty' so much because they can't come up with creatively difficult enemies/mechanics. I mean half the mobs feel like they're just copied from past diablo games anyway?
I love how he said the dungeon teleport time was a "small difference" but its literally almost double the amount of time it happened before. Totally avoided the question too. I have no idea why. RIP Asmon giving them the idea of portal cosmetics...
"we've heard the feedback from the community and we've adjusted the Butcher to now drop a guaranteed unique item upon kill" -The Butchers spawn rate has been reduced by 95%
@@josephagundez5336 That has happened to me as well. I ran into him about 5 times over 8 hours once. It is interesting when I see people saying they have never encountered him.
It's very obvious they did this to try to force you into the season. Look at the buffs you get from the hearts and what the nerfs are. It explains itself.
Except the only interesting heart interacting is for necro. All the others are a snooze fest. Just like bungie, blizzard puts in the least amount of effort for the most profit.
@@buffhorses3632you nailed it. Bungie amd Blizzard are cut from the same cloth. Literally the very moment Bungie left Activision and they added a battle pass to Destiny and removed paid content, I knew Bungie just took Activisions playbook. Bungie was just sick of getting the smaller cut, they were never the lesser evil.
Diablo 4 launched great. Endgame is shit but plenty of people like the game. Sorry the company you hate sold 10+ million copies and will continue to do well. I hate doomers as much as shills.
@@fightcub655 Just because it sold 10 millions copies, doesn't mean it's great I bet half of those sales are because of previous titles. It's 6 million active players in the last 30 days. Which means 4 millions people just put it on a shelf. These stats will be interesting too see in 2-3 months, very critical moment for the D4 team now.
@@fightcub655 this games bad. i played beta and it was shit. so much copy pasted from diablo 3. they didnt care about making a great game, they wanted to hype it up to sell as much as possible coz they knew players will hate the game after a week or two. and i voted with my wallet. havent bought and i will not buy it
"We'll never do a patch like this again." - Devs who stated in a previous stream they would buff rather than nerf going forwards. "We didn't plan on slowing progress down, but then we realized that nerfing damage and experience slowed down progress. But that wasn't our intention." - Devs who are making themselves seem like they either lied or they're incompetent. I get that some of the creators who live off D4 want to search for positives, and there were a few, but god DAMN the sheer amount of bullshit and dodging in this was insane.
Being crowd controlled is bad not just because it is too much, but it's also the unfairness of it. Take for example the cold stun in some nmds. As a sorcerer, I could do a frost nova, and there's a long cool down before I can use it again. Sometimes the frost nova don't even work as intended coz the elites are somehow now 'unstoppable". But these same elites can induce cold stun with every hit, no cooldowns needed. Like wtf.
Yeah one time I did a nightmare dungeon with the fast attacking enemies modifier and a spider that could attack at the speed of light froze me like 11 times in a row
@@kyber_powrd6810sorcerer isn't even a real class yet. They still don't have the resistances they are supposed to have to compensate for having the lowest armor values in the game by miles.
Get more than one unstoppable on your bar. Done. Stop making glass cannon builds. Fire shield and deep freeze and the boots aspect that grants unstoppable when yoy drop below 30% hp.
They should add 2 types of content to me end game wise. 1 being a “endless tides” kinda deal that sends waves at you or your group with bosses every 10. And the higher end ones have Bosses from previous games etc that have low drop rate but do have a chance to drop Uber uniques. These dungeons are for level 100s. Then possibly adding raids, or storyline based dungeons that don’t affect the overall story but tell smaller stories going forward that you might not get to know about if you don’t read content or play this content. Same way side quests do this
It didn’t take me a few days to realize vulnerable damage was a must take stat. It took me 15 minutes after I started the game for the first time realizing my rogues damage spike when it damages creatures during their vulnerable state. 😂
Same shit happened with slag in borderlands 2. You introduce a status effect that is just an unconditional damage increase for all damage types to enemies affected by it, and then act surprised when it becomes almost necessary in the late game? Are they really that clueless? Honestly their best bet is to make vulnerable do something else entirely because I feel like they’re taking enemies being vulnerable into account when balancing things
The first time I found one of those barrels that explodes into vuln and it hit an enemy I went wow I literally one shot them with no 3 stack imbued Barrage, this seems fair. Removed some points to try Shadow Imbue for the vuln AoE and yeah this stat needs to be removed immediately or only Vulnerability builds will be playable let alone viable. Blizzard will see 4 people hitting insane end game dungeons and go wow cool then nerf everything except Vuln so you're forced to take it, get used to it now
@@jacksonboyd8630 I don't think anybody was surprised about slag. iirc Slag was quite literally intended to be mandatory in higher NGs. Like the game might have actually directly said it's necessary.
You nailed it with the comments about being more human. No one wants a watered down message. Just hit us with it. It’s ok, we can move past it. But have to come right out and acknowledge it
It took GGG until 3.15 (8 years) to get to the point where they needed to anger the player base with heavy-handed nerfs, it only took Blizzard a single content patch.
The Bicylcle factory analogy is excellent. The changes themselves aren't that much of an issue, they can be reversed if needed. The issue is how could they be so out of touch, misunderstand their own game so much to have made those mistakes at all. PS. Mining canaries very rarely died, they would pass out from gas. Miners took very good care of their Canaries, they protect each other.
Remember guys, not only can you see how rough this was in the begining but after this campfire they went ahead and IMMEDIATELY made tier 100 content now tier 70... huge impact.
@@dicktracy9473 i refunded my pre purchase of d4 as soon as the FOMO wore off. Haven't even bought or played it yet. No game is worth 120$. Ill try it when its 40$ or less lol
i sure fooled asomn then......... im not wearing a shirt in my states 100+ degree weather when im at home........ gotta wear pants cause i have a relative for a room mate >_
i really hate that these guys mentioned the top end is so difficult that working options for players were really narrow, but decided to nerf players options first, and say they will nerf the game at some random time later. its such bs 😂
On the one hand, I understand the negative response from players, but what frustrates me the most is when developers make changes that they are not convinced about. If there is some deeper thought behind it, something that is supposed to have a long-term effect on the game's balance, well, then I am able to accept it. The players will forget in a while. But for them to say such things now that they never intend to repeat it again just because the response was negative shows how they themselves don't really know what direction the game is going in.
The uber unique idea i think makes me laugh the most. It's an absolutely ridiculous especially when the cancelled their own game because too many people got them
31:40 The way this guy responded to this question, wow...AND HE'S THE GAME DIRECTOR?! WHO HIRED HIM?!?! I mean, this guy looks nervous to the point where he can't even speak correctly. How did the interview go for him? I can only imagine...It's not even this guy's fault, it's whoever hired him into the position of Game Director, holy shit...
It is much easier to say the correct things when you are not tied to the product. If you watch all these D4 content creators they all are saying that this mess is a god tier change and everything is saved. Asmon can just call their bullshit because he knows he will have an audience without the game.
Blizzard seems to understand that lots of players do certain things, and that certain content required those certain things. But instead of addressing the why they addressed the what. Blizzards line of thinking is: CDR was a stat everyone tried to maximize, because content was hard and you needed to access your skills more; so should we balance the content difficulty correctly, of course not; we should nerf CDR. Why fix the reason people were relying on it when we can just make it worse and people won’t want to rely on it… oh wait, now people don’t want to play our game🤦
Exilecon for PoE2 in 7 days. Very interested to see their D4 counter strategy It’s funny how they didn’t create a good core stat system, and went into overdrive on highly conditional damage methods. Should have started from ground up and advance from there. Baseline stats are worthless, and itemization is stacking conditional layers. If youre well rested and eating breakfast, and have a phone call and coffee, 50% increased damage.
Imagine working on something your so passionate about to then have the marketing team come in and say "This has to be changed because we have to make money on this feature". I hope everyone understands that every bad move the devs have been making is because everything has to push you to the battlepass. ALL blizzards L's are because the devs over there all answer to the marketing team not vice versa, they don't get to make the game they want anymore and that's why I hate the company. Don't get it twisted this whole experience is built around that fucking battlepass shit and we all new this experience was going to be lackluster when it was announced. Play an hr of this then go back and play D2 for an hr, you will see what I'm talking about. Sorry for the rant man I'm just so tired of this shit its unreal.
for the first time i was actually smort enough to wait for the drama to unfold. as much as i wished for d4 to be good, for blizzard to use their expertise and resources right- for blizzard to give back to the community and fanbase and prove they are capable of setting new industry standards like back in the old days and create a game that captivates and gives a sense of being part of something great... i knew what would happen and what would not.
Its weird looking at you blizzard bros from the outside. Always hyped for the first week "maybe this time it will be different" then spending the rest of the games life cycle crying its still as bad as the last 5 years, warcraft 3 was over 20 years ago it high time to move on already. I'm just enjoying playing fallout 3 that i got for free this summer on epic games, never bought a blizzard game in my life and so far i don't see a single reason to ever do it.
@tomothybahamothy english isnt my first language. When i refer to "you blizzard bros" im not referring to the original posts writer since he already is disillusioned by blizzard. I understand op most likely did not buy diablo 4 because he was sceptical. My bad if I worded it akwardly. Just wanted to comment how OPs behavior is normal from an outsiders perspective.
@@illliiiiillliii6265 imagine being a true fan of something for whatever reason. and then that thing gets handed to s1 else but u dont know about it bc u dont follow corporate news stuff... (what happened behind the scenes, who left, who stayed, who sold out and what kind of pressure shareholders and other sources of interests hold and so on) u could be easily tricked again and again. thats what blizz has been doing for over a decade. and yes, they are still capable of fooling many with their products, or better, with the promised product e1 knows they have the potential to create.
Q: "Why did you increase the cast time to teleport out of dungeons from three seconds to five seconds?" A: "We added back the reset dungeon button, but you have to be outside the dungeon to use it. So there is a loop there."
It is becoming increasingly clear how much developers are being hamstrung by people who make strictly business decisions. The storage spacer issue proves it best. Likewise, it was shown by the answer (or, in fact, the lack of it) regarding the extension of teleport time from the dungeon
Yep, exactly. These guys are middle management in this equation. THEY didn't make those patch decisions. I can tell by their faces and tone that they didn't. Those changes likely came from a room full of suits who don't even play the game. Those guys probably told that room full of suits that it isn't a good idea. Suits being suits said "I don't care. Market metrics show we need to make x, y, and z happen no matter what." Changes are made and it crashed and burned. Then the suits send the scapegoats(middle management) out to put out the fires. They were using corpo speak because they WANTED to talk shit but they also want to keep their jobs. These guys don't want the game to be shitty. They are literally dedicating this portion of their lives to it. However, they don't get carte blanche because it is a massive corporation. One thing I can assure you is that this will not be the last time the room full of suits messes things up. It never is
Their response to vulnerable being overpowered is like they did their first alpha test 2 days ago. This game was in development for years. I don’t understand the constant optimism and defense of incompetence like this. It’s like a car manufacturer producing square wheels on their vehicles after 7+ years of design with extensive testing and they manufactured it anyways. Then, 2 months later they realize it’s bad design but could have never fathomed the square wheels were bad to begin with. Mind boggling tbh.
11 Years in development my ass. I still think it was planned as a immortal kind of game and alot of stuff like the stash and other QOL things were planned behind the paywall. But than Overwatch 2 bombed and nobody liked immortal so they had to change alot of stuff in D4. They can't afford another flop. That's the time that was sopposed to go into balacing and other qol things that are just missing now. Gem stash for season 2 should be done in a 2 day hotfix. Respecced yesterday and paid over 4 million. Took me 20 min...fun Time. Deleting the paragon board shoul be a 1 day hotfix or already in the game on day 1. I'm so done with this game.
For once, I just wish someone at blizzard would please play their own game. From StarCraft, to Warcraft, to World of Warcraft, to Diablo 3, to Overwatch, to Heartstone, to Heroes of the Storm, to Diablo Immortal, and now Diablo 4, not a single human being that developed these games EVER played them, not even for a handful of minutes. It’s almost as if they’re disgusted by their own creations. Had any of them played the game, they would’ve understood the good and the bad of it, and then made sensible adjustments to improve, not worsen, the player experience. Had these ppl played Diablo 4, none of this would have happened.
I played Diablo 3 back when it first came out and they pulled the same kinda crap back then too. I remember one day my Monk is punching super-duper fast and it felt awesome, then they pulled out a patch that nerfed the equipment my Monk had so now he noticeably punched slower. It just felt bad.
the only bad factor for this is that they would HAVE to be repeatable. then to top it off what if you pulled a 100% shitty role on this uber unique that took you a couple weeks to a month to complete? thus making that long climb worthless.
@@chriscalliss5999 consider the new staff unique is a uber unique of sucky proportions (the legendary affix is terribad) so its a stat stick that could have been litterally any other legendary but now you get the joy of a random shrine effect for 10 seconds (minimum roll) after killing an elite (where you have a 1 in 7 chance of getting the conduit shrine effect arguably the best one but will more often than not just get a greed gold buff). it cannot happen more than once every 30 seconds and being a staff can roll with 2x the undesirable stats for the relevant class (you can under d4 pull ubers from other classes even if you cant use it). now also consider that they have mobs spaced so far apart that you might murder an elite but a shrine buff for 10 seconds isnt gonna have you killing hordes of anything. where an actual legendary affix is applied for most of the fight time. with 1 handers you can offset if one is kinda bad and the other is good and have 2 legendary affixes to boot. how thrilled would you be to have what is essentially a rare blacksmithing junk skin made of dog shit? this gear affix even exists in diablo 3 and outside of early game days has been junked hard ever since then for its materials unless it was a shrug of "eh well i aint got nothing else" shrug. so its not like it is this fancy new uber shrine buff. thats what staff users just got gifted as their season 1 uber unique should anyone actually get one to drop. now imagine if you worked weeks to roll the slots and that fell out and its likely another few weeks till you can cha-ching a new pity pull. they want to keep these ubers very uncommon after all. sorry lots of edits
@Everlucky_Clover yeah that makes sense. But that's also quite easy to solve though if you simply remove the stat randomness from the item or perhaps add a crafting material that can upgrade your rolls to Max.
@@chriscalliss5999 very true as well (outside of the staff above) you could even argue that you cant max it but being reasonably attainable 1-2 set chances per season could actually atleast make the ubers build viable. heck i would even go so far as to make the quest one non blacksmith-able (like the chapter 1 necklace) so you have to get a full odds one for the skin. this way it retains its rarity of being not easily cranked out and making the skin a reward of luck instead of the item period being a frustration for collect-a-holics
I personally think they should extract legendary powers when you salvage the item, and they get added to their own stash in the codex, poor rolls ones should be able to be combined to improve the roll, to give the weak ones a use. this way you can just salvage everything and not look at it, then look at you codex powers individually and see what ones have ones that are well rolled or ones that can be combined to make good rolls. would still need a loot filter for other stats however.
I do want to push back on the "everything being buffed is bad" stance. If that was the case, idle games and clickers wouldnt have the fanbases they do. Sure, if WHAT you are doing isnt fun, it doesnt matter whether the number is 17 or 422TreD (Tredecillion) It's why I like NGU Idle and Tap Titan 2, the changing of builds to push those higher tiers, and getting challenges completed and working on more than (Do more damage, maybe fight 3 strong bosses) that Diablo's been doing. Path of Exile's success comes from OPTIONS at the late-game level. Not that the numbers aren't hitting insane amounts
It depends on the gametype. The buff everything already happened in ARPS, as the biggest example being D3. A mix of buffs and nerfs are needed, with small powercreep being expected over time. Main goal is for the player to feel powerful while making the game feel challenging. For whole appeal for idle clicker is to see number go up without the gameplay part.
It's chasing the wrong addiction. No one was hitting for billions in the games that made this franchise famous. You couldn't even run in diablo 1, and it's STILL more fun than D4. Just, figure it out 🤷♂️
@@daniellewandowski6945 The main part of an idle, sure, is to see the number go up. But if you're playing a good one and not a "let's make money" pos, there's other things too, like 100% collecting the gear in NGU Idle's adventure mode, or the goddamned Cat Challenge. My only problem I had with D3, was there was nothing to do once you beat story and got past Paragon 800, besides grind out GRs until you stopped playing. I do like the Nightmare dungeon they added, and the S28 Altar system gave another thing to work on, but I never once thought the numbers were part of the problem. D4 is showing this exact example, all the numbers are lower (arguement for certain UL-capable builds, but even then), but the balancing still is an issue. Blizzard's problems have never been the damage itself, it's been tackling balancing compared to itself, and lack of sustainable content. (Diablo specifically, I dont care about WoW or Hearthstone)
I really dont hope they add some Infinite endgame shit as well. I love Lilith and bosses like that - we defo need more stuff like this. :D I agree with the point that "when its finished, its finished".
2 second increase on the cast time for leaving a dungeon, across millions of players, adds up to hundreds of hours of playtime a day. It's all about playtime analytics. Adding 2 seconds to the horse sprint cooldown pisses me off far more though.
And on top of all this shit going on with the game, the cheapest version of it is *fucking* $70. From what I've seen in gameplay videos and reviews, it seems like it's worth maybe $40ish
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"We know its not fun" is exactly the words I want to hear after a big update in a game, lol. God they screwed up.
@@anyroad5455 its almost like they are speaking directly to the shareholders and not the playerbase...
They should hire someone to test the game it would make their life easier
@@Trip4wThe players ARE the play testers, but they paid to do it.
(Not me though I didn't even buy the game😂)
It’s them owning up to it?
Lol, You Know its not fun? And you Still want Me to play thru your Season1?
Been playing blizzard games long enough to know: A. 10 percent of what they said they would do, they will do. B. They are only sorry because they got caught. C. They definitely will do this again.
We are like an abused gf who keeps coming back to an abusive man lol.
@@sethryder9532 Absolute facts
@@sethryder9532 game pre-patch was fun. Post-patch, it’s not fun at all. It feels like a boring and tiresome chore. I’m just forcing myself to play while waiting for a couple other games to launch.
They hang up the lessons learned in the workplace, but let's be real, no body pays attention to that corporate tradition lol.
D4 felt too easy. I don't want to feel so overpowered that nothing is challenging. THATS not fun to me, it's repetitive and boring. I like the changes. Sorry not sorry. I'm not a wuss 😅
If D4 was an early access game, and Blizzard was a small indie studio, this stream would make perfect sense, but when we're talking about one of the biggest names in the industry and their work on a fourth iteration in a huge franchise, it doesn't
@@mrbubbles6468 damn some peoples supply of copium is infinite
@@mrbubbles6468 most companies wouldn't cause the problems intentionally in the first place.
Just quit that's the ONLY way to send THE MESSAAAGGEE
@@CostelloDamian You are 100% wrong dude! EVERY CHANGE THEY ARE MAKING IS TO KEEP YOU ON THEIR SERVERS LONGER! AND TO BUY THEIR PREMIUM PASS! THAT'S WHY IT SUCKS SO BAD AND THEY REFUSE TO CHANGE IT!
since day 1 it was like an open beta ... we fcking testing this shit till they loose all the player base ...
I agree with Asmon on Uniques being Pinnacle Content. It brings me back to the old days of like the N64 Era where you beat the game and unlock the cheat menu or something. "Congrats, you beat the end of the game and beat the secret boss. There's no challenge left, so here's Bobble Head, Infinite Ammo, Invincibility, Enemies explode into Confetti, Super Speed, and all enemies are dinosaurs modes!"
It's like "Cool, you beat every challenge we had to offer. Now have some stupid goofy fun as thanks for playing the game!"
It's something you don't see often these days and I miss it.
That was back in the day when the company got all it's profit from the initial sale, and if it was good, sequals. That was also the time when the game was more likely to be a finished product by the time we got it. That slowly faded as release dates became more important than quality. Case in point, we spent $70+ to be beta testers. 1 whale is worth more than the fishing village.
Thats diablo3
I LOVED how Black Flag had the Poseidon cheat code ingame after you got far enough that made the seas a permanent hurricane turned it on and went and did the legendary ship battles in it felt like i was in pirates of the Caribbean at worlds end lol
Shareholders ruin companies. It’s because them that we get these unfinished products rushed to market
@@subzero308 I really don't understand people like you who make the generalization that gaming today sucks and is a joke when you can choose to play thousands of extremely good games that do not have any of these problems.
This is the golden era of gaming. Thousands of games that are top tier are in your finger tips and you choose to play crap. Why?
They don't need to make leveling from 50 to 100 "faster", they need to make it "fun".
They don't know how to do that
it was actually pretty fast to level up to 100, if you compare with other games. It's just OMEGA boring
No. They are gonna sell 3 second animations.... that makes sense
Amen
In season 2 the bicycle will have handlebars. The dev team is discussing the possibility of a seat. But patch 1.1.1 will include a kickstand.
Lmao I think you slightly understand how the “bicycle MVP” model works. The bike is like step 8-9. Right now we’re still on the skateboard
We don't want to limit how fast you can go on the bike. But we are removing the pedals before greasing the gears.
@WhatAGuy2023 um, dude you alright? lmao
@HeartbrokenHeartshooter we only have the board and 2 wheels, the back right and front left. They have to patch the game to add in the others but this patch chipped the wood so if we try doing a kickflip itll break the board :((
@@HeartbrokenHeartshooter>implying any blizzard game is a minimum viable product
"Why did you guys lengthen the cast timer for teleport?"
"Well, we did add in the reset dungeon button again."
I sometimes find it hard to believe that Blizzard is an actual company being run by real people and not just some figment of my imagination.
This, I felt like I was losing my mind at that point.
I think it makes dungeons feel harder, especially in hardcore since you can't port out as easily. I can't say if this is good or bad, depends on how hard you want the game to be
to pad player time for player retention numbers for shareholders, ect. unless my math is wrong 100k people waiting an extra 2 seconds equites to 55 hours.
It’s for hardcore players because they use the tp to cheese tough situations.
just like vulnerable dmg% was abused in game, dodge % is abused in some of these answers
Abused? LOL, does anyone making these statements play Arpgs? Cause its not an abuse to use a multiplier which you KNOW in turn boosts your damage.
Now was it a good idea to add that affix/ stat into the game no. They stat bloated the game to make rerolling stats more of a pain and only out come to me is they wanted you to farm longer to try to get the better %s.
lol! It feels like they are abusing thorns a bit too.
@@arcticstriker7377 don’t think they know what they are doing. It looks like they just saw a spread sheet and nerfed every popular stat 🤷♂️. It’s like a never ending beta
@@arcticstriker7377you win sir. All these staunch defenders of Blizzard when they release a game half done and the other half are boring artificial bloats and/or limitations.
I’ll translate the whole thing for you:
We had no plans for season one at launch. We focussed on making the base game the best it could be after the beta tests and player feedback.
We had no idea what to do for season one while you guys were playing the game. We made a few more tweaks to the game and wrote some more code.
We made several different versions of seasonal content and tested each version on a test server and found that the balance wouldn’t work with the seasonal content. So rather than change seasonal content we wrote more code and nerfed everything.
Now we have implemented the rush job of seasons into the game our code looks like a big bowl of spaghetti. This is why you can have just one stash tab and why there are memory problems with the game.
Now we can fix this but we will need a few weeks to sort it as we have to unravel the spaghetti, sort it all out, balance the game, sort out all the bugs we put in with all the new code we put in as well as keep an eye on what you are all up to in season one.
But rest assured we will fix this. We just have no idea how right now.
Or even shorter version.
“We don’t know our own game well enough to balance it, the community is pissed because we nerfed the only ~viable~ builds and we have no idea how to fix this buy please don’t leave us”
I always found "balance" the factor that killed D3 for me. They released soo many patches "balancing" the game, which made story mode unplayable, coz everything died so quickly.. it was just a pointless few hours run to "endgame" content. Why can't they create a version for story that is just balanced or the "vanilla" and create a new version with idk "buffs/nerf' status effects that will simply fit the weird twists they planning on introducing to seasonal content. Doesn't have to be even version. At the creation screen you should have option for "Campain" no changes to characters and "Seasonal" where "buffs/nerf" are applied to classes...
I mean the easiest fix is just nerfing chars on the seasonal realms (just adding defuffs for each class no extra coding) and bam seasonal servers are balanced and people on eternals don't get shafted...
Yep - Beta 'tests': all two of them. Can anyone spot the problem here?
We're so used to excrement launches that when a game actually works we seem to forget that it's not a reason to light fireworks. Poor, poor, and poor!
nailed it. watched a new build come out for mw and it crashed the game. had to revert to the old build to test on. code is funny like that
They literally admitted that it was fun and that they knew the patch would make for a bad experience, yet they still did it. This is all I need to know to move onto a different game. Time is precious.
You actually bought the game? LOOOOL
@@SuckYourselfyainbredLOOOOL LoLol
@@SuckYourselfyainbred yup, I got scammed lol
@@NeckRemover For me, I like to keep abreast of the situations and landscape of the gaming space.
@@NeckRemover Out of true hate
It's like there's blizzard drama every 24 hours.
Every minute.*
Only way they’re still relevant 😅
yeah, used to be once a week before.
And to the other news. Today's Blizzard drama is...
Its 24/7/365
You would swear this was not a AAA gaming company.
The only AAA aspect of Diablo 4 is the art. Sounds like every Actibliz game since forever.
@hiddendragon415 hard agree. The art, music and frankly storyboard are certified banger. Everything else was an afterthought for them.
The only thing AAA is the price.
@@diablodegen1167Right, Kerrigan I mean Sylvanas I mean Lilith are so well written and the cutscenes are definitely not recycled Blizzard slop. Banger storyboarding right there. You are part of the problem.
Not this teams fault...but i really fucking hated when they turned sc2 into wc3... Its really like entire company only has a few good story ideas and they jam them into everything they touch
The longer I watched, The closer joe looked liked he was about to cry.
I'm guessing that the active players base has drop significantly. and they are getting grilled by management. sandwiched position
To me it seems like Joe shoudnt be on screen, he might be great game director, not so much for stream
"Why did management make me do this, and I have to answer for it" face
It's the face of a man who's being made to sit a defend things he doesn't believe; all while earning 30% less than his peers at studios within 10 miles of him. Then people wonder why Blizzard games are crap. What kind of whipping boys would stay at such a place?
@@xZidyx Bro you watch Asmongold. You're used to watching animated decaying bodies.
Devs: we are not trying to slow down the game
Me: Click malignant heart after clearing all the mobs and the elite that holds it, new elite takes forever to spawn while i wait doing nothing
I bet they increased the leave dungeon timer so next season they will start selling portal effects like in diablo immortal, so you can "take your time to look at the pretty portal".
also to pad player time. 100000 people waiting an extra 2 seconds equates to 55 hours of game time
I think it could be a result of hardcore players preventing to die. By making the teleport time longer... just a guess
Teleport cosmetics 100% omg they did this to Destiny 2.
Man, I'm so sick and tired of loading screens! Anything you do ...Fuuuuu have to wait again!
@@spoonherrdon't they just alt-f4
The devs themselves don’t seem to be having fun either.. idk coming from Larian’s panel from hell they seem more lifeless
Its because they don't get to make the game they want man.
Guy in the middle either looks like he's going to fall asleep or cry
@@TapiKoksI already have over 100 hours just with act1 in bg3, the release will be absolutely great. Original sin 2 was the best crpgnof it's time, so saying bg3 is like d:os2.5 is a compliment in my book lol
@@hungrykoala1293 Exactly, lol. Dark Souls formula was used in bout 7 of their games and all (cept for 2) have been praised and even awarded. Saying BG3 is Divinity 2.5 is a positive, not a negative. Divinity 2 is still the best CRPG I've ever played. Had aprox. 150 hours in 2 weeks
i dont even play diablo 4 i just watch your videos and i am FASCINATED by the way they dodged the question on the "leave dungeon" cast time, or whatever it is - the one that wnet from 3 to 5 ... that was INSANE ... he basically just said "yeah we are really wasting your time and we don't have a reason"
My biggest concern is the decision making process that led to them thinking it was a great idea to nerf current characters in preparation for nerfs to content difficulty months later.
Quite frankly, it seems highly unlikely anyone would make that conclusion and it feels more like they are grasping for excuses to explain away decisions that the player base reacted poorly to.
A reasonable person would have nerfed character damage and content difficulty simultaneously if that was truly the original intent.
I find it baffling how they are adjusting the difficulty levels to that extent AFTER they released the game, of course little tweaks here and there are normal, but my god seems like they have no idea what they’re doing, just blindly making changes in hopes it’ll sort itself out.
@@italianspiderman5012 They dont have the slightest clue what they are doing, all those people left blizz years ago and doesnt help this is basically a 3rd party game produced in asia for asian markets. Its not a game made for the western world.
What's weirder is they seem to want the look and feel of a diablo game, basic bitch, to the letter arpg bones, YET wanna monetize it like a Chinese game, have the well thought out gameplay of a souls game or Lost Ark mechanics, and have tons of builds like a souls game where you could spend tons of time crafting a build. Which WILL NOT WORK under the current Blizzard direction, monetary systems forcing changes to make the game worse/grindy, and a lack of understanding about what all those other games and ARPGs did.
@@italianspiderman5012 It had to be done after release since Blizzard had no way of knowing which metas would form and around which builds. And since most if not all of the top tier builds demand you to apply vulnurability to the mobs to make a dent most other builds become useless- this is why the nerf happened.
The nerfs were also meant to be accompanied by nerf to NMD70-100, but it got delayed, which makes it look like all Blizzard wanted to do was nerf us for no reason when in reality they wanted to bring *everything* back in line so they can push buffs for specs that are currently underutilized. As an example it might now be viable to run a blood spear build instead of bone spear build on necro- now that there is a really good aspect for it and now that vulnurability isn't as powerful.
The fact that they just rolled all of this out without first telling anyone though is really bad communication and the backlash (though a bit overblown imo) is well deserved.
@@GenomeSoldierDK man, they designed the game, they should know what builds and abilities are “meta” what works and what doesn’t, the only reason they are doing balance patches of this magnitude is because they didn’t test the game, you are testing it, ffs people stop, just stop.
I knew this would happen and it's exactly why I refunded d4 after I played the beta. Wouldn't let them get me again after D3. Blizzard is just a shell of its former self, people need to stop giving them their money.
I didn't, I'm only coming here to understand why people still get scammed after all the mayhem Blizz has caused over the past years. Seems gamers have Stockholm syndrome. That prevents game industry to raise their standards if players like to eat shit all day and ask for more.
@@Yadeehoo Maybe its high time that gamers started addressing their own house and figuring out why they eat shit all day.
This season 1 is gonna hold this game back of what could have been a triumph for Blizzard in years. Getting people to play again after they quit is way harder than keeping existing players.
srsly at the start I was like wow Blizzard actually made a great game! now they are slowly making me hate it.
@@bullpaxton2001 As is tradition. enshitification speedrun any %, Blizz is getting better at it though lol
D4 was never going to be a good game. Blizz we love has no talented devs and artists working for it anymore
The leave dungeon response about increasing the cast time is all I needed to know where this game is going and what the team is about
I feel 100% the same about that change so much that is by far the main reason I won't be playing season 1. It's a matter of not wasteing my time for no benefit. If they had an explanation to why they changed it they would have said what it was when the question was brought up.
@@eVisolpxe this is such a petty childish response. Lol
You have every right to feel that way and not play but wooow is it childish to call this small reason why you aren't gonna play.... Like c'mon bud.
@Giliver Youre saying a 66% increase in wasted time that they didn't even attempt to justify is fine? Bootlick harder
By the logic everything should be instantaneous
@@Giliverdude. Think bigger. It isn't that this seemingly small change is itself intolerable. It's the principle as to why they made such a change and how pervasive those principles are in the overall game design.
They want to slow you down. That's antithetical to the fun and alure of arpgs. That small change is simply the final straw.
Stop simping. Actually think through your own thoughts before you react. You aren't getting paid for hot takes.
The problem with Necro minion builds is that it's the inverse of multiplicative damage. If you are just about any other build you get to do 100% of your damage, or a relatively close number to all of your targets. When you play minions, your damage is primarily divided into your minions amongst the number of targets you're facing. Combine this with the fact that you can not direct your minions towards a target, and you get a build that's worthless & frustrating.
I've found that my damage as a minion build necro vs 1 target is perfectly fun to play. My experience when facing a multitude of enemies, often times combined with a specific enemy that needs to be downed first, which is 80%% of the gameplay, I am constantly frustrated.
Lvl 100 Necro and still searching for that damn ring to make Minion build viable
@@sigurds433 well start doing side quest look for treasure goblins and hopefully your lucky and it will eventually drop
This is why the necro minion build in D3 had it's ability cast to focus your skeletons to attack a target.
The set bonus for it made it become unlmited duration and jumps to another target when it's dead. The ability let you redirect them to a specific target.
Simple fix: replace the "priest buffing" when at max skeletons to "direct skeletons to attack", no corpse needed. Or even just add the function that when you use the ability on an enemy instead of a corpse it directs them (don't even need to touch the priest part).
Maybe add an aspect that makes them stay in focused attack and auto-re-target to another nearby enemy when the target dies.
This would make minions fun to play again.
@@hunterculpepper1973 finished all sidequests , killed a lot goblins but the only ring i ve seen so far is 3 or 4 times lilith ring.
This is just annoying, they knew they did wrong so they will address it in 3+ months 🤔🤣
Exactly. They break the game with 1 patch, then take weeks/months to fix it. By then this game will be dead.
I hate the fact that they wanna nerf cooldowns, but make every damn character have abilities that you wanna burst out for as much damage as quickly as possible. Meaning there is like 20 seconds often times in between triggers without cooldown reductions. That's insane. If they wanna have long as cooldown times like in WoW then they need to have a spell rotation for these classes.
Action RPGs arent meant to have long cooldowns
@@missquake facts
Activision Blizzard's motto: Sacrifice all the fun to never achieve balance.
From the looks on their faces it seems like they're left to deal with the fallout of other people's bad decisions
Yes, Joes face is the typicial "I told you in several standups an meetings" dev face
@@WTFSt0n3d You cracked me up, so true.
Of course.
The shareholders and company bosses
God damn they really aged 20+ years once blizzard told them to stop stealing breast milk lmao
the design team been out hunting for a Cambodian immigrant, so they just copied D3's C- homework.
@@kennethnoisewater4423 thats an insult to d3. while developing d4 they slowly solved many of the problems they are having for diablo 4 in d3's season patches. so they in reality copied a fan fiction and tried to pass it off as non fiction >_
@@Everlucky_Cloverthey solved many of the problems from d3? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
@@kfactor99 they solved teleporting around in d3 by having way more of them. they made exiting dungeons easy in d3. they solved extra shitty gear. they solved stash space( and should have never relied on stupid forms of fake space in d4). the color lighting not being permanently grey and foggy grey made visibility easier. they didnt have fights where you spent the entire battle stunned/froze/feared for 2 mins straight. they had actual mob density. even though classes got hit with the nerf hammer they almost never fucked with how often you could cast an ability and continued to make it decent intervals to cast your stuffs. they never just straight up said "they are dealing too much damage NERF EVERYTHING AND BUFF THE MONSTERS!!!!" gear after the expansion had relevent stats instead of reverting to mish mash bullshittery.
so sure d3 isnt perfect and the infinite paragon thing is silly but they had 10 fucking years of time spent looking at the d3 changes and chose "you know what building on our phone game infrastructure from 2 years ago is worth more than what we already have seen the player base enjoys!"
@@Everlucky_Clover I think D4s biggest problem right now is that item affixes are boring. so many mid activities and they all directly reward the same boring items.
that would at least make their current half baked design more fun.
Being on the outside looking into this dumpster fire that is D4 is the absolute best perspective for my sanity. Guys maybe in 2 years it will be good, cheaper, and worth playing. Thanks everyone who bought it early to play test. You all are the real ones.
Also free.
Amen. Overwatch 2 is coming out on steam, so hopefully that means I can pick up D4 at a 50% sale for Christmas or summer or something later down the line. Forget pre-ordering, I just flat out don't buy games anymore until they've been "playtested" by the... ya know... paying audience. Why pay someone to be given the privilege of tedting their game? They're supposed to pay YOU for that.
D4 felt too easy. I don't want to feel so overpowered that nothing is challenging. THATS not fun to me, it's repetitive and boring. I like the changes. Sorry not sorry. I'm not a wuss 😅
@@ud0ntevenkn0wme The difficulty is the least of this game's problems.
@@ud0ntevenkn0wmeuh the game isn't harder lol it's just slower and boring now bruh come on. If they change the top end in response to their changes this is just damage control. This game is dead. Blizzard is dead.
"The guys that are watching this aren't wearing pants....." - statement checks out
I agree with you about loot goblin drops being better because of the mobs you have to fight off just to kill the goblin most times.
So to help save you guys time from watching the whole thing, the main answer to all your questions is “we will look into fixing this…IN THE FUTURE”
We've been having a lot of conversations about this (but we've taken no action, we have no plan to take action, we have just been talking a lot about it)
Well, tbh they can’t change it all right now, only because coding takes time, however they should just revert the patches that people hated.
This game wasn't just a copy and paste from D3. They had to incorporate new functions to make this cake not burn in the oven. Online play, customization, then with new enemy models that are packed in groups that are "suppose" to read the players play style and counter to that in game, in game cash store..yeah I know, I know, but still viable for those interested (gear does look nice for paying up real $$ as well, I will say (in some areas). We can rant for as long as it took to make the game. It's only been a month! Let it simmer and soak in the juices, and we'll be ok here in the coming days. Breath in, Breath out. Thank you.
@@trevorperschy4582 It is absolutely wild how much you guys will defend and make excuses for.
upper management at blizzard just has no idea what's going on. they learned nothing from diablo 3. diablo 4 offers very little in terms of groundbreaking features compared to previous titles, missing many features previous titles had, and is riddled with so many bugs. upper management coinflipped d4's design repeatedly, putting it into development hell for years, then forced it out the door before it was ready. they did the same thing with diablo 3. they did the same thing with overwatch 2. we as a community are having to actively co-design their game for them because upper management is actively screwing up every game the devs make.
and yet they made a ton of money with this failure, bc some people never learn and still bought that "game".
It's almost as if the people who actually worked on past Blizzard games are not around anymore...
The development cycle must have been hell for them to put out such an unfinished game
@@andresgonzalez5676 that's the downside of getting too big. the suits arent directly involved with the games anymore. they just make all the (usually bad) executive decisions that makes the developers look poorly and punishes the fanbase/community.
Idk man, it’s not like developers are blameless here, they should speak up and I’m not sure if they do, do they even care? I don’t think so at this point, everything they do is about player retention, to manipulate you, take advantage of you, you think higher ups are designing all those systems?
Man, I love having zero investment into anything Blizzard has ever made and a bucket of popcorn. Things have been great for a while.
This is true. My morning routine- wake up, eat breakfast, watch asmon shit on blizzard. It’s become a tradition at this point
Same I didn't buy D4 but its fun to see asmon shit on blizz
As a once die hard fan since WC1 I can't deny that i kind of enjoy watching the whole castle of cards going down in flames its just so glorious shitshow that never seems to end.
@@Kynber "watch asmon shit on blizzard with reason"
I’m convinced the devs were forced into making this patch by the higher ups
I agree, but it's hard to have any sympathy for yes men. They were just doing their job, right guys?
Dang You can feel the tension in the room. I would be skittish too if I had just poked a hornet’s nest like they have.
"We know it's bad and we know it's not fun." Wow. Says it all right there.
Act man: D4 is too easy! It should be way more challenging.
Monkey's Paw: Curls a finger.
Challenging content is not the same as just making everything take long and making everyone do less damage.
I think more than anything actman was angry at the entire game filled with grindable trash mobs and relatively few/weak bosses.
To amswer actmans complaint would require ALL enemy designs changed, which would then also need player power adjusted.... Which is NOT what the update did.
@vissermatt1058
You don't know what the monkey's paw is, do you?
@@vissermatt1058 I don't think blizzard's nerfs had anything to do with act man's criticism in reality.
A monkey's paw is a fictional wish-granting item that will grant any wish it is asked, but always through methods that are worse off.
Example: A woman wishes she had $5000 right away. Her loving husband ends up dying in a workplace accident, and the worker's comp insurance sends her a check for $5000. It's always a situation that makes you regret wishing, there's never a reason to wish on a monkey's paw because it will always be worse off in the end.
And its kinda what happened, like there was a monkey's paw under act man's desk he didn't know about when he was making his video
devs have pretty high dodge stats
edit: i feel they are relying on cc and 'numbers difficulty' so much because they can't come up with creatively difficult enemies/mechanics. I mean half the mobs feel like they're just copied from past diablo games anyway?
I love how he said the dungeon teleport time was a "small difference" but its literally almost double the amount of time it happened before. Totally avoided the question too. I have no idea why. RIP Asmon giving them the idea of portal cosmetics...
Make it 10 seconds and sell different portal animations in the cash shop or premium season pass.
"we've heard the feedback from the community and we've adjusted the Butcher to now drop a guaranteed unique item upon kill"
-The Butchers spawn rate has been reduced by 95%
The Butcher is in the game..... Again? Hahahaha
@@shemsuhor8763 In a single 3 hour session I ran into him 5 times.
@@josephagundez5336 is he in nightmare only? haven't seen him yet at all...
@@joelsantos662 No, he's in regular dungeons. My wife and I ran into him multiple times while hunting aspects.
@@josephagundez5336 That has happened to me as well. I ran into him about 5 times over 8 hours once. It is interesting when I see people saying they have never encountered him.
It's very obvious they did this to try to force you into the season. Look at the buffs you get from the hearts and what the nerfs are. It explains itself.
Except the only interesting heart interacting is for necro. All the others are a snooze fest. Just like bungie, blizzard puts in the least amount of effort for the most profit.
@@medicinemanM you’re confirming his point
@@buffhorses3632you nailed it. Bungie amd Blizzard are cut from the same cloth.
Literally the very moment Bungie left Activision and they added a battle pass to Destiny and removed paid content, I knew Bungie just took Activisions playbook. Bungie was just sick of getting the smaller cut, they were never the lesser evil.
expecting anything good from blizzard in 2023 is a leading sign of brain damage
Just wait for the overwatch mobile reveal lol
Diablo 4 launched great. Endgame is shit but plenty of people like the game. Sorry the company you hate sold 10+ million copies and will continue to do well. I hate doomers as much as shills.
@@fightcub655 just shows to many people are willing to accept mediocrity in their life
@@fightcub655 Just because it sold 10 millions copies, doesn't mean it's great
I bet half of those sales are because of previous titles.
It's 6 million active players in the last 30 days. Which means 4 millions people just put it on a shelf.
These stats will be interesting too see in 2-3 months, very critical moment for the D4 team now.
@@fightcub655 this games bad. i played beta and it was shit. so much copy pasted from diablo 3. they didnt care about making a great game, they wanted to hype it up to sell as much as possible coz they knew players will hate the game after a week or two. and i voted with my wallet. havent bought and i will not buy it
Blizzard is really hyping up POE2 right now 😂
hey, Chris Wilson did his job just fine
My biggest issue is sorc being fixed. buffing aspects isnt going to fix the class. im worried they have no clue how to fix the class.
Choice, soon.
"The guys that are watching this live... They aren't wearing pants" - I don't think anyone could have put that better.
"We'll never do a patch like this again." - Devs who stated in a previous stream they would buff rather than nerf going forwards.
"We didn't plan on slowing progress down, but then we realized that nerfing damage and experience slowed down progress. But that wasn't our intention." - Devs who are making themselves seem like they either lied or they're incompetent.
I get that some of the creators who live off D4 want to search for positives, and there were a few, but god DAMN the sheer amount of bullshit and dodging in this was insane.
- Why have you increased the teleport timer ?
- We have added the reset dungeon button
🤷♂
Being crowd controlled is bad not just because it is too much, but it's also the unfairness of it. Take for example the cold stun in some nmds. As a sorcerer, I could do a frost nova, and there's a long cool down before I can use it again. Sometimes the frost nova don't even work as intended coz the elites are somehow now 'unstoppable". But these same elites can induce cold stun with every hit, no cooldowns needed. Like wtf.
Yeah one time I did a nightmare dungeon with the fast attacking enemies modifier and a spider that could attack at the speed of light froze me like 11 times in a row
This just makes me annoyed I picked sorc to main…
@@kyber_powrd6810sorcerer isn't even a real class yet. They still don't have the resistances they are supposed to have to compensate for having the lowest armor values in the game by miles.
Get more than one unstoppable on your bar. Done. Stop making glass cannon builds. Fire shield and deep freeze and the boots aspect that grants unstoppable when yoy drop below 30% hp.
Used unstoppable affix have it on a piece of gear for situationvlike these
"The people watching this don'T wear pants" Haven't felt so called out in a while.
They should add 2 types of content to me end game wise. 1 being a “endless tides” kinda deal that sends waves at you or your group with bosses every 10. And the higher end ones have Bosses from previous games etc that have low drop rate but do have a chance to drop Uber uniques. These dungeons are for level 100s. Then possibly adding raids, or storyline based dungeons that don’t affect the overall story but tell smaller stories going forward that you might not get to know about if you don’t read content or play this content. Same way side quests do this
endless tides ??? yes we need this.
Infinite helltides and repeatable strongholds would be a nice addition imo
Let's be real ALL aspects we take out of gear should go to our OWN codex of power separate from the dungeon one and BOTH should get a search function.
Honestly I like this idea. Why put up partial walls to gear building
It was basically like this in Diablo 3. You had a codex of the powers you extracted - none of this aspect inventory nonsense
QOL isn't a fuckin key problem.
I didn't realize the in game classes were modeled after the developers. (Photo Above From Left to Right, Barbarian, Necromancer, Sorcerer)
It didn’t take me a few days to realize vulnerable damage was a must take stat. It took me 15 minutes after I started the game for the first time realizing my rogues damage spike when it damages creatures during their vulnerable state. 😂
Yeah I built my rogue around it.
Imagine that...
Same shit happened with slag in borderlands 2. You introduce a status effect that is just an unconditional damage increase for all damage types to enemies affected by it, and then act surprised when it becomes almost necessary in the late game? Are they really that clueless?
Honestly their best bet is to make vulnerable do something else entirely because I feel like they’re taking enemies being vulnerable into account when balancing things
@jacksonboyd8630 ah yes good old slag.
The first time I found one of those barrels that explodes into vuln and it hit an enemy I went wow I literally one shot them with no 3 stack imbued Barrage, this seems fair. Removed some points to try Shadow Imbue for the vuln AoE and yeah this stat needs to be removed immediately or only Vulnerability builds will be playable let alone viable. Blizzard will see 4 people hitting insane end game dungeons and go wow cool then nerf everything except Vuln so you're forced to take it, get used to it now
@@jacksonboyd8630 I don't think anybody was surprised about slag. iirc Slag was quite literally intended to be mandatory in higher NGs. Like the game might have actually directly said it's necessary.
I am convinced the devs don't play games, I'm not talking about just their game, I'm talking about any game. Braindead logic.
You nailed it with the comments about being more human. No one wants a watered down message. Just hit us with it. It’s ok, we can move past it. But have to come right out and acknowledge it
It took GGG until 3.15 (8 years) to get to the point where they needed to anger the player base with heavy-handed nerfs, it only took Blizzard a single content patch.
The Bicylcle factory analogy is excellent.
The changes themselves aren't that much of an issue, they can be reversed if needed.
The issue is how could they be so out of touch, misunderstand their own game so much to have made those mistakes at all.
PS. Mining canaries very rarely died, they would pass out from gas.
Miners took very good care of their Canaries, they protect each other.
Remember guys, not only can you see how rough this was in the begining but after this campfire they went ahead and IMMEDIATELY made tier 100 content now tier 70... huge impact.
wdym?
@@TM-pi2rn huge impact.
@@TM-pi2rn huge impact
@@TM-pi2rn huge impact!
genshin impact
They killed a 100$ game faster than Lost Ark devs killed their free game😂
It's actually sad. Took me 500 hrs to see through lost ark. Took me 2 days to drop diablo 4.
@@dicktracy9473 i refunded my pre purchase of d4 as soon as the FOMO wore off. Haven't even bought or played it yet. No game is worth 120$. Ill try it when its 40$ or less lol
You best believe in beta tests. **all 3 turn into skeletons** You're in one.
Blizzard doing blizzard things
"The people that are watching this live...arent wearing pants." I feel called out here, Asmon
i sure fooled asomn then......... im not wearing a shirt in my states 100+ degree weather when im at home........ gotta wear pants cause i have a relative for a room mate >_
"We are sorry - just stick with us. We will fix the game at some point in the future"
"The game will be fixed soon(tm)"
At least by the time D5 comes out .
"We have plans."
The problem with the sorcerer is that they just ended up nerfing all of their builds. That included my Meteor build.
joe shely looks like a bad guy from an 80s movie
i really hate that these guys mentioned the top end is so difficult that working options for players were really narrow, but decided to nerf players options first, and say they will nerf the game at some random time later. its such bs 😂
On the one hand, I understand the negative response from players, but what frustrates me the most is when developers make changes that they are not convinced about. If there is some deeper thought behind it, something that is supposed to have a long-term effect on the game's balance, well, then I am able to accept it. The players will forget in a while. But for them to say such things now that they never intend to repeat it again just because the response was negative shows how they themselves don't really know what direction the game is going in.
Suuuurely Blizzard won't do anything bad and questionable in the future and they will only release good patches
Yea and whales will grow wings and fly and fire starts to freeze people
When you fill a company with B-tier employees, you're going to get B-tier product.
D tier question dodging too
The uber unique idea i think makes me laugh the most. It's an absolutely ridiculous especially when the cancelled their own game because too many people got them
31:40 The way this guy responded to this question, wow...AND HE'S THE GAME DIRECTOR?! WHO HIRED HIM?!?!
I mean, this guy looks nervous to the point where he can't even speak correctly. How did the interview go for him? I can only imagine...It's not even this guy's fault, it's whoever hired him into the position of Game Director, holy shit...
It baffles me to this day how Asmongold, of all people, has the correct takes on most of these game dev announcement and patches.
It is much easier to say the correct things when you are not tied to the product. If you watch all these D4 content creators they all are saying that this mess is a god tier change and everything is saved. Asmon can just call their bullshit because he knows he will have an audience without the game.
@@eMikecs I noticed that too and it's infuriating, seems only asmon and mrlama have honest takes.
Blizzard seems to understand that lots of players do certain things, and that certain content required those certain things. But instead of addressing the why they addressed the what.
Blizzards line of thinking is: CDR was a stat everyone tried to maximize, because content was hard and you needed to access your skills more; so should we balance the content difficulty correctly, of course not; we should nerf CDR. Why fix the reason people were relying on it when we can just make it worse and people won’t want to rely on it… oh wait, now people don’t want to play our game🤦
why do they look so scummy.
blizzard: New Content in S1 guys!
The Content: 25$ skins, battlepass
Exilecon for PoE2 in 7 days. Very interested to see their D4 counter strategy
It’s funny how they didn’t create a good core stat system, and went into overdrive on highly conditional damage methods. Should have started from ground up and advance from there. Baseline stats are worthless, and itemization is stacking conditional layers. If youre well rested and eating breakfast, and have a phone call and coffee, 50% increased damage.
Lmfao
PoE does not need a counter strategy lmao. They are busy making PoE2 which just needs to be PoE with updated graphics lmao
lmao🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Blizzard takes "all publicity is good publicity" to heart. Amazing how they can not take 1 month of the drama train
Imagine working on something your so passionate about to then have the marketing team come in and say "This has to be changed because we have to make money on this feature". I hope everyone understands that every bad move the devs have been making is because everything has to push you to the battlepass. ALL blizzards L's are because the devs over there all answer to the marketing team not vice versa, they don't get to make the game they want anymore and that's why I hate the company. Don't get it twisted this whole experience is built around that fucking battlepass shit and we all new this experience was going to be lackluster when it was announced. Play an hr of this then go back and play D2 for an hr, you will see what I'm talking about. Sorry for the rant man I'm just so tired of this shit its unreal.
for the first time i was actually smort enough to wait for the drama to unfold.
as much as i wished for d4 to be good, for blizzard to use their expertise and resources right-
for blizzard to give back to the community and fanbase and prove they are capable of setting new industry standards like back in the old days and create a game that captivates and gives a sense of being part of something great...
i knew what would happen and what would not.
Its weird looking at you blizzard bros from the outside. Always hyped for the first week "maybe this time it will be different" then spending the rest of the games life cycle crying its still as bad as the last 5 years, warcraft 3 was over 20 years ago it high time to move on already. I'm just enjoying playing fallout 3 that i got for free this summer on epic games, never bought a blizzard game in my life and so far i don't see a single reason to ever do it.
@@illliiiiillliii6265I really don't think you understood the comment you replied to.
@@c.krueger9530 you apparently do not understand it either.
@tomothybahamothy english isnt my first language. When i refer to "you blizzard bros" im not referring to the original posts writer since he already is disillusioned by blizzard. I understand op most likely did not buy diablo 4 because he was sceptical. My bad if I worded it akwardly.
Just wanted to comment how OPs behavior is normal from an outsiders perspective.
@@illliiiiillliii6265 imagine being a true fan of something for whatever reason. and then that thing gets handed to s1 else but u dont know about it bc u dont follow corporate news stuff... (what happened behind the scenes, who left, who stayed, who sold out and what kind of pressure shareholders and other sources of interests hold and so on)
u could be easily tricked again and again.
thats what blizz has been doing for over a decade. and yes, they are still capable of fooling many with their products, or better, with the promised product e1 knows they have the potential to create.
“Is it badass” should be on every devs teams flow chart
Q: "Why did you increase the cast time to teleport out of dungeons from three seconds to five seconds?"
A: "We added back the reset dungeon button, but you have to be outside the dungeon to use it. So there is a loop there."
It is becoming increasingly clear how much developers are being hamstrung by people who make strictly business decisions. The storage spacer issue proves it best. Likewise, it was shown by the answer (or, in fact, the lack of it) regarding the extension of teleport time from the dungeon
Yep, exactly. These guys are middle management in this equation. THEY didn't make those patch decisions. I can tell by their faces and tone that they didn't. Those changes likely came from a room full of suits who don't even play the game. Those guys probably told that room full of suits that it isn't a good idea. Suits being suits said "I don't care. Market metrics show we need to make x, y, and z happen no matter what." Changes are made and it crashed and burned. Then the suits send the scapegoats(middle management) out to put out the fires. They were using corpo speak because they WANTED to talk shit but they also want to keep their jobs. These guys don't want the game to be shitty. They are literally dedicating this portion of their lives to it. However, they don't get carte blanche because it is a massive corporation. One thing I can assure you is that this will not be the last time the room full of suits messes things up. It never is
Vulnerable damage feels like the clutch claw (Monster Hunter world) equivalent of a mechanic.
Clutch claw was pretty cool though.
More like slag in borderlands 2
Clutch claw killed world and iceborne , I can never play world again because the changes the clutch claw did to monster behavior
Their response to vulnerable being overpowered is like they did their first alpha test 2 days ago. This game was in development for years. I don’t understand the constant optimism and defense of incompetence like this. It’s like a car manufacturer producing square wheels on their vehicles after 7+ years of design with extensive testing and they manufactured it anyways. Then, 2 months later they realize it’s bad design but could have never fathomed the square wheels were bad to begin with. Mind boggling tbh.
It's like their balance philosophy is made for a completely different genre
Who needs pants at 11 AM?
When you take balance more seriously than players do and make it more important than fun, you lose players.
the very simple fact that eternal is gutted & neglected just in time for $ea$on battle pa$$ is all i needed to know about their true intent
11 Years in development my ass. I still think it was planned as a immortal kind of game and alot of stuff like the stash and other QOL things were planned behind the paywall. But than Overwatch 2 bombed and nobody liked immortal so they had to change alot of stuff in D4. They can't afford another flop. That's the time that was sopposed to go into balacing and other qol things that are just missing now. Gem stash for season 2 should be done in a 2 day hotfix. Respecced yesterday and paid over 4 million. Took me 20 min...fun Time. Deleting the paragon board shoul be a 1 day hotfix or already in the game on day 1. I'm so done with this game.
"Your talking to a bunch of guys who are watching this live stream whom are probably not wearing pants"😂😂😂😂
For once, I just wish someone at blizzard would please play their own game. From StarCraft, to Warcraft, to World of Warcraft, to Diablo 3, to Overwatch, to Heartstone, to Heroes of the Storm, to Diablo Immortal, and now Diablo 4, not a single human being that developed these games EVER played them, not even for a handful of minutes. It’s almost as if they’re disgusted by their own creations.
Had any of them played the game, they would’ve understood the good and the bad of it, and then made sensible adjustments to improve, not worsen, the player experience. Had these ppl played Diablo 4, none of this would have happened.
I played Diablo 3 back when it first came out and they pulled the same kinda crap back then too. I remember one day my Monk is punching super-duper fast and it felt awesome, then they pulled out a patch that nerfed the equipment my Monk had so now he noticeably punched slower. It just felt bad.
I suppose they did the same to my rogue in d3 but didn't just scale numbers, they completely removed key skills entirely
D4 community : Season 1 Sucks
Lizard: Yep we know that Sorry
they done this on purpose i'm convinced they get a kick out of player hardship the only fun happening is them watching people struggle
The game would really benefit from having epic chain quests for uniques like they have in wow for thunderfury
the only bad factor for this is that they would HAVE to be repeatable. then to top it off what if you pulled a 100% shitty role on this uber unique that took you a couple weeks to a month to complete? thus making that long climb worthless.
@Everlucky_Clover im not that familiar with uber uniques. But aren't they powerful enough that having a good or bad roll isn't that big of a deal ?
@@chriscalliss5999 consider the new staff unique is a uber unique of sucky proportions (the legendary affix is terribad) so its a stat stick that could have been litterally any other legendary but now you get the joy of a random shrine effect for 10 seconds (minimum roll) after killing an elite (where you have a 1 in 7 chance of getting the conduit shrine effect arguably the best one but will more often than not just get a greed gold buff). it cannot happen more than once every 30 seconds and being a staff can roll with 2x the undesirable stats for the relevant class (you can under d4 pull ubers from other classes even if you cant use it). now also consider that they have mobs spaced so far apart that you might murder an elite but a shrine buff for 10 seconds isnt gonna have you killing hordes of anything. where an actual legendary affix is applied for most of the fight time.
with 1 handers you can offset if one is kinda bad and the other is good and have 2 legendary affixes to boot. how thrilled would you be to have what is essentially a rare blacksmithing junk skin made of dog shit? this gear affix even exists in diablo 3 and outside of early game days has been junked hard ever since then for its materials unless it was a shrug of "eh well i aint got nothing else" shrug. so its not like it is this fancy new uber shrine buff.
thats what staff users just got gifted as their season 1 uber unique should anyone actually get one to drop. now imagine if you worked weeks to roll the slots and that fell out and its likely another few weeks till you can cha-ching a new pity pull. they want to keep these ubers very uncommon after all.
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@Everlucky_Clover yeah that makes sense. But that's also quite easy to solve though if you simply remove the stat randomness from the item or perhaps add a crafting material that can upgrade your rolls to Max.
@@chriscalliss5999 very true as well (outside of the staff above) you could even argue that you cant max it but being reasonably attainable 1-2 set chances per season could actually atleast make the ubers build viable.
heck i would even go so far as to make the quest one non blacksmith-able (like the chapter 1 necklace) so you have to get a full odds one for the skin. this way it retains its rarity of being not easily cranked out and making the skin a reward of luck instead of the item period being a frustration for collect-a-holics
Damn man,what a defeated looking group of three guys. It would be nice to just hear them say it tho. "We fucked up".
That was my takeaway, all 3 of them have 0 energy and look like they hate the lives they have chosen for themselves.
This just felt like watching some kids tell their parents they did a bad thing😂
I personally think they should extract legendary powers when you salvage the item, and they get added to their own stash in the codex, poor rolls ones should be able to be combined to improve the roll, to give the weak ones a use. this way you can just salvage everything and not look at it, then look at you codex powers individually and see what ones have ones that are well rolled or ones that can be combined to make good rolls. would still need a loot filter for other stats however.
I personally think they should add one button to beat the game 💤
@@coronachan19 Uh, this isn't something that will change the difficulty of the gameplay it would be a nice QoL thing though. No need to overreact.
Nah that's too logical. Will never get implemented
I do want to push back on the "everything being buffed is bad" stance. If that was the case, idle games and clickers wouldnt have the fanbases they do.
Sure, if WHAT you are doing isnt fun, it doesnt matter whether the number is 17 or 422TreD (Tredecillion)
It's why I like NGU Idle and Tap Titan 2, the changing of builds to push those higher tiers, and getting challenges completed and working on more than (Do more damage, maybe fight 3 strong bosses) that Diablo's been doing. Path of Exile's success comes from OPTIONS at the late-game level. Not that the numbers aren't hitting insane amounts
It depends on the gametype. The buff everything already happened in ARPS, as the biggest example being D3. A mix of buffs and nerfs are needed, with small powercreep being expected over time. Main goal is for the player to feel powerful while making the game feel challenging. For whole appeal for idle clicker is to see number go up without the gameplay part.
It's chasing the wrong addiction. No one was hitting for billions in the games that made this franchise famous.
You couldn't even run in diablo 1, and it's STILL more fun than D4.
Just, figure it out 🤷♂️
@@daniellewandowski6945 The main part of an idle, sure, is to see the number go up. But if you're playing a good one and not a "let's make money" pos, there's other things too, like 100% collecting the gear in NGU Idle's adventure mode, or the goddamned Cat Challenge.
My only problem I had with D3, was there was nothing to do once you beat story and got past Paragon 800, besides grind out GRs until you stopped playing. I do like the Nightmare dungeon they added, and the S28 Altar system gave another thing to work on, but I never once thought the numbers were part of the problem.
D4 is showing this exact example, all the numbers are lower (arguement for certain UL-capable builds, but even then), but the balancing still is an issue. Blizzard's problems have never been the damage itself, it's been tackling balancing compared to itself, and lack of sustainable content. (Diablo specifically, I dont care about WoW or Hearthstone)
@@equious8413 I'll accept that. It's the content itself they're losing us on.
I really dont hope they add some Infinite endgame shit as well. I love Lilith and bosses like that - we defo need more stuff like this. :D I agree with the point that "when its finished, its finished".
doesent makes sense since you should can play the game how long how possible!
2 second increase on the cast time for leaving a dungeon, across millions of players, adds up to hundreds of hours of playtime a day.
It's all about playtime analytics.
Adding 2 seconds to the horse sprint cooldown pisses me off far more though.
And on top of all this shit going on with the game, the cheapest version of it is *fucking* $70.
From what I've seen in gameplay videos and reviews, it seems like it's worth maybe $40ish