So, when WuWa uses muted-color palette, it's bad. But when ZZZ uses the same palette + marvel filter on top of that, it's good? I guess some people just doesn't have eyes and logic.
I prefer WuWa character models more than Genshin. Not saying that Genshin's models are bad, I just like simple color palettes and not saturated colors. One could argue that WuWa character models are simplistic but once you see what they can do in combat, everything just comes together. Jinhsi might be the perfect example for this since I think Jinhsi has the most complex palette atm. Her outfit is just a silver white dress with black contrast, and then you see her in action and you see white golds and the jade dragon. All of a sudden, you see a lot of colors using her. In a sense, I could even argue that their models are functional to what they can do in combat. Like Sanhua's outfit being all black while her skills and liberation puts bluish-white ice glaciers on the field. And, since Sanhua's outfit is black, you could easily spot her after all those shenanigans.
when you are older you naturally will prioritize wuwa design.. if you are of younger audience maybe genshin model will appeal you more because how colorful it is like disney theme.. while wuwa is more dark since it's apocalypse setting i'm talking both the world and the character.. because the character cloth usually goes hand in hand with the world they belong in
I think you're talking more about art direction and less about models. Yes art direction is subjective and each game has their own vision and that's perfectly fine. "Models" however are pretty quantifiable and objective in my opinion. Just compare their 2D splash arts and their 3D in game models. Should be easy to tell which game's models will stand strong in the face of scrutiny and closer inspection.
@@alvinvalentino5797 If you're trying to compare it to PGR current vers sure + paid coatings but 1.0 . Lucia Black Red Liv white black with golden stuff Nanami Black brown. Lee, Yuanwu stole his drip and color. Watanabe brown black. Bianca White black Karenina Yellow black.
everytime a PGR character is announced, the idiots always complain of the colors etc, until they see the gameplay and animation and realize, thats when the character is complete to give an opinion on him/her, and always turn around the opinions, because kuro use a lot of effects and animation aside the PNG to sell the characters. This will happend the next patch with the first character on wuwa, when the idiots see Xiangli Yao ingame with animations and voice, they will flip like burgers.
He has sick animations for sure but didnt get me hyped. Zhezhi doh damn So fluid. I really appreaciate Kuro that put so much love and details into her animations.
genshin shills is 100% nitpicking cuz they alr admitted their game have worse combat,QoL,Graphics,Rewards,Dev communication,banners,exploration,competitive players approach than wuwa so theyre getting mad at wuwa for having like bugs,translation(which there is also tons in genshin,zzz release) so they bringing shit up like my game Have better characters than you,our game have better story,our game have better music(which is not even good and mostly yapfest like the writers are just getting paid by word count) yada yada yada nonsense which is pointless argument cuz its subjective and depends on users some like wuwa story some like genshin story and some like wuwa chars vice versa while the things mention above is not subjective and its just there as facts
Wuwa's designs have a theme, and while you could argue they're more bland compared to Genshin. I would say Genshin designs are a little over tuned, to the point that they don't really fit the world in comparison with NPCs. All the Jinzhou characters, even though their designs are clearly more tuned up, they still fit the designs of the NPCs, and so they fit more cohesively with the world design.
Keep in mind, Kuro games are not new to fashion and design. Look at PGR with their outfits, mind blowing creativity and designs. Some may see that WuWa's designs aren't as flashy or stand out, but you have to understand that this is a completely different style Kuro is trying to play around and work with. They already did very well with Jinhsi, Yinlin, Jiyan and Changli's design. As time progresses, we may see even more better designs for characters, just like how Genshin had pretty boring character designs in its first couple months of the game.
To me as an artist, two of the main criteria for a good character design are whether the design can convey the character visually (identity, personality, profession, etc) and whether the character design actually fits in their setting. I think WuWa succeeds in both aspects. But personally I'm just partial to Hoyo's character designs from Genshin onwards lol (I do like some HI3 designs too but not a lot tbh) I am looking forward to seeing more characters in the future, but rn it's kind of a mixed bag for me
Personally .. it's not about colors as much as the art style ig. Got no knowledge about designing However. Hoyo games characters are super flashy and more cartoonish and childish idea of men and women. Like imagine if there was a collab and genshin is gonna release yinlin. Even thu she dresses in black, the artstyle is gonna be super cartoonish and bad. So i don't think it's about wearing black. It's about the art itself or model
Wuthering waves design and 3d models is a standard. Ppl accustomed to hoyo designs tend to not able to appreciate certain artistic design choices and cant see past the surface. Dont get me started on GI and HSR clothes which they copy paste to various characters...if they use argument that wuwa has same color pallette or belts
Genshin is mostly for kids lol. The only chars I like (from perspective of design) are Navia, kokomi, nahida, alhaitham and wriothesley. (u can prob see the patterns, white & black 😂) Meanwhile in Wuwa, I like almost every 5 stars chars except encore (shes alright). I also rlly like Baizhi and Sanhua, they are so pretty.. I saw the new chars drip marketing too, the girl is SO CUTE omg.. Also, is it just me that I think body proportions in genshin is a bit off?
Most of ZZZ's cast look like 4-stars. If you present me the cast of current ZZZ characters without their rarity indicator I couldn't tell which ones are 5-stars.
wuwa design bland? to think i'll live long enough to see this headline.. well joke aside nay.. they do feel way less colorful than mihoyo game but i don't think this is what the talk is about ok here first you need to know the game concept it's after apocalypse if you start putting childish and colorful looking cloths too much (i mean we do got encore) like ex genshin which suit their theme of colorful world in this wuwa world which looks void because of the concept than it will feel like a clown because of the mismatch.. got what i mean? lastly colorful doesn't mean it has better design.. tbf i even hardpressed to search someone for example in gi to fought changli design.. and jinhsi design herself is top notch.. the cloth is just so so tho.. but point is let's adjust our thinking to the game concept ok
A lot of WuWa character wears techwear, which is practicle for high mobility movement and fights. This is what you are missing. The characters in Genshin are wearing dresses which are utterly unsuitable for combat but are pretty and fits a ball scenario. So it feels like bringing a dancing wear to combat, it makes no sense, but it's cool.
Genshin's design looks so fantastical, bright and whimsical. Characters like Jean and Diluc always stood out to me as their clothes looks like actual clothes. Stylish but not overly stylized. Wuthering Waves design seems much more sleek and comfy to wear. Which is good to me as its almost as if everyone is dressed like Diluc and Jean
Personally, I like darker design colors + dark hues but bolder shiny/flarey/glowy outfits(like Yinlin or Changli and Jiyan) as many of their sci-fi design elements remind me of mostly Xenoblade Chronicles 2 and Action Taimanin character clothing designs and color level which very much hooked me as I never played or experienced Genshin design and saturation level.
Wuwa char quality is way higher than genshin. if u look closely all characters in wuwa are so close to their 2d arts that its easy for wuthering waves trailers to transition to 3d to 2d while genshin,zzz,star rail are so far off even with max graphics
I think Genshin Impact and Honkai Star Rail and most other games in general have TOO MUCH detail, like I swear 80% of the characters in Genshin have those scarf cape things that hang down their back maybe its a chinese thing but I hate it personally and think many characters would look better without them and then theres so much extra assessory stuff like sometimes they make sense and the character turns out amazing but other times it comes off as too much like I'm not saying they need to be more revealing but sometimes "less is more" I just feel like some Characters appear overly cluttered in a way. Even on Fortnite though I only use like 10-15 skins and the rest of them are archived so I'm a very picky person, personally I think WuWa's designs are fine most of them don't appear overly cluttered besides like Verina or Jinhsi but I love Jinhsi's design and I love her damage too XD but I notice most of the male skins seem to be similiar with like coats or capes.
in short KURO's theme in designs are leaning more towards mature-ish , gothic, dark type of style while genshin caters more in using vibrant colors in which it attracts lower aged audience. Two games has different target demographs thats why it will never meet in the middle.
I think it's perfectly reasonable to prefer the more realistic character proportions (that's why Star Rail having 2 more realistic body types is nice) or prefer the more realistic take on desaturated colors. The game being 4 years newer with newer graphics also is a valid reason to prefer it. But I don't think it's just the desaturated colors making a difference. I do prefer Genshin's, but it's more so because there's already so many post apocalyptic settings for games. I want the fantasy game. But I also have seen plenty of fan edits recoloring the characters. Some of my favorites feature more muted colors, and the character design is so good they still shine underneath. Because if I compared to other gatcha, I think Arkknights and PGR have stronger designs that actually pop (with or without the realistic proportions) with the same basic world aesthetic, and if I compare to other rpgs, I think the Xenoblade franchise is more appealing, but the Nier universe (which is a direct inspiration) does it better.
I think both GI and Wuwa have their respected character designs done well in their respective games. From what I see, Genshin's character designs are indeed more saturated and colorful since the entire game revolves around high fantasy and adventure. In WuWa, the concept is still the same except it has a sci-fi-apocalyptic vibes and the game has a more semi-realistic tone than Genshin. I think this is why Wuwa's character designs have a lot more black because they imitate a "realistic aspect" that is fitting in their world.
I feel hoyo's design and color is easy to simplify since you can recognize them with their basic color, and this leads to way more fanart of hoyo's game compared to kuro's. I can understand with PGR since not everyone likes drawing mechanical parts but wuwa's fanarts being this dry is kinda unexpected.
Esthetics, color and character design are way much better in Genshin Impact. I"ll give them that. WuWa's looks at 1st for me does not look that good until for some reason I began to get used to it. Also the pros in WuWa outweight its con.
Something that I like (and much prefer) about both WuWa and ZZZ is that the characters don’t look like typical vibrant anime protagonists and fit naturally into the game. My problem w/ Genshin is that their NPCs and character designs are so vastly different, it feels like every character isekai’d from another world. Their designs are mostly good, but character models are a bit jarring when you notice their big heads.
Wuwa's characters have a more well-proportioned proportion. In contrast, in order to be both cute and sexy, GI's characters generally have big heads and long legs, which makes their torsos extremely small. Originally, miHoYo could make up for it with a larger boobs, but with Rosaria being nerfed, things became irreparable, and probably only Raiden Shogun survived
I have a convo with a cosplayer friend and he went 30 minutes of how stupid Wanderer's outfit is, and he is more on the simpler side of Genshin designs. He said that a lot of those stuff on that outfit connected/ attach to NOWHERE, it floats on itself, and honestly perfectly described how impractical and dumb Hoyo character designs are. They've had some classics I admit but majority of it is just random bullshit go. Comparing to Wuwa the designs are actually practical, like, it make sense. If you're cosplayers or artists that actually studied character design the more you will appreciate WW designs. I am an artist myself and I found joy drawing WW characters wayyyy more than Hoyo designs (I drew a lot of them, trust me)
What I like about wuwa's design is they are pretty easily be modified from real life clothings to cosplay. Take yang yang's dress for example, U can find a similar looking enough dress, get some black stockings and heels and some berret, then add the extra ornamental stuff. Same with verina's, just find a similarly colored dress, add some flower ormanents and you're done. Granted not everyone is this way, but I'm sure those who are into tech ware can find something close to their vibe
I don't think the problem is how they look but how they are. Currently out of the whole cast only few have any personality and colour in them. Chixia and Changli. Maybe Jinshi. Others are just sexy dolls with names.
Playing WuWa with lowest brightness is BiS. I come from GI and aside from Shenhe and Eula who's designs are very close to WuWa's I much prefer ever so slightly muted colours of WuWa's outfits. It makes them look like they are actually being worn by these characters, instead of being sparkling brand new looking with saturated colours. Changli and Yinlin are perfect mid ground imo between GI oversaturated colour palette and WuWa more muted colours. Colours on them are vibrant, but not to the point of standing out from everything around them. Raiden's and Clorinde's colours palettes would also fit WuWa quite well due to blues and purples not being as vibrant as every other character's design in GI.
Colour aside which seems to be the focus of this video but I just got frustrated of dorks, kids and kpop looking characters in genshin. It’s been literal years do something different, give us new models, push the boundaries, anything except continuing to play it safe
WuWa is better for me. I can't play a game that keeps me attacking with the brighest colors in the world all the time. I guess it's just my preference since I'm hyped to Arknights Endfield that is even more gray than wuwa lol
Of course it bland, like really? U wanna colorful characters on post-apocalypse theme games, and if u want more colorful characters design then go to GI they make adventures type game without Post-Apocalypse Theme but if u want more darker toned color type then Wuwa it is, it's simple not need to hard thinking about it. It's just games choose what type games u want to play
i genuinely don't care as long as not 100% same and i like the characters, that's enough for me to spend the money to get the characters and also genuinely don't care about color palette/saturation shit etc as long as the graphic is good and not a PSone graphic era is more than enough to play the game the most important thing is as long as you enjoy the game, you like the game then.. just play it! if you don't like it, just leave it! is that simple
pgr is better than wuwa well they same dev,wuwa is better than genshin and u cannot compare to genshin at this point cause genshin already tons of char.if you compare to vanilla genshin wuwa is way better than genshin yet kuro dev still earn way lesser than genshin.tbh genshin earn soooo bloody much they suppose to be better compare to kuro yet they still fail.
This is me when I first started pgr 3 years ago, it took some time getting used to but you will eventually find Kuro mature design much better than the rainbow theme Hoyo used too, as a matter of fact I cant even like hoyo design anymore, it looks like it treat you like a kid 😂
If WuWa designs are bland then how bland are Genshin characters? They all wear cheap looking outfits, 99% of them look like it's all from Chinese culture. WuWa uses a lot of Chinese inspired outfits too but they at least mix it with more modern designs. I think Star Rail got the most unique designs of these 3, which makes sense since it's a space traveling game so multiple planets with different cultures. And as much sht as I talk about ZZZ, I do think it has the most variation in character designs. Even if some of them are furries. lol
Okay, Star Rail has some really nice designs, but it actively has the most copy paste between the games lol. Genshin has objectively the least percentage of actual Chinese fashion.
There are still a lot of design, especially the outfits, that looks good in Genshin. Lumine's clothes if you really look at it is amazing. However, the game is starting to look dated, hence why HSR looks amazing. WUWA came out of this year so it makes sense that it looks better and it's not like this is Kuro's first game. Their design is always thematic.
The design particularly in Jinzhou is more conservative but they fit a city that is constantly defending against an invasion more than a happy go lucky color scheme. Maybe in another country maybe they will be brighter and the city less spartanlike. I'm sure the other countries won't look exactly like Jinzhou, I mean just look at Mt. Firmament, it's so different from Jinzhou.
Actually, the designs are anything but bland if you take a closer look at them. Especially when you see the characters in action, a lot of things make more sense. I also think the body models are quite good so far. There are other things that I don't find so successful. But I'm sure that Kuro will come up with a lot of surprises.
Personaly as someone that haven't played a single hoyo game, I find these complain stupid, it's just not going for the same aesthetic. BUT I also personaly find the character design relatively bland, but not in term of clothes or colors, they just feel less inspired compared to PGR's characters (Kurogames other gacha game), they just feel more... "generic anime character"-ish to me, like the realy early PGR characters, it feel like a step back. Like, check some recent PGR characters like Lamia, No XXI Feral, Noctis, Teddy, Bridget (the later 3 being equivalent of 4stars), Or hell, Nanami starfearer, wich just pilot mech as if it was normal... the character designs are just so much more inspired and exude much more personality IMO. And that without taking the skins into account. Even compared to Arknights, another gacha with a similar aesthtic of more grounded/practical/techwear designs and washed colors, Wuwa's desing strugle in the comparison IMO. There's not a character yet that realy made me go "wow", still like most of them tho.
Brother there’s how many Wuwa characters? How long has the game been out? Compared to genshin’s 50+ on top of having 4 years of development. Hoyo shills are just upset that the devs actually care about their players.
They really compare a 2020 game, and a 2024 game? It's obviously that wuwa better than genshin in everything. I wonder how much they get paid to ask such stupid questions.
hoyo design is too cartoonish for my liking. i like wuwa design more. btw, i play both, but i like wuwa character design more. but yeah, i would agree with that, that the color pallette in wuwa is less saturated however, you can tweak that with in game settings and in nvidia setting as well.
Wuwa is perfect design i love dark theme if you played multiple games you will Love the Art style of wuwa but bro seriously Genshin just lock your mind cuz its so colourful wuwa is near perfect of there art style
ngl I agree, the characters in ZZZ are kind of bland. Eversince ive started WUWA last week, ive been in love with this game. Im a simp for changli, yinlin, female rover, and chixia. Everything about wuwa is just better than every other gacha game.
being bland or good in designs of who is better bet. the 2 is always be subjective imo, take it like if we any WuWa characters in GI game it woupd definitely looks weird and vice versa. personally Id say I prefer WuWa design, I kinda find them pretty mature compare to GI. GI simps need to chill, heck their chara design imo isnt even the best among Hoyo works, HI3 clapped them by miles
I'm not saying one is better than the other but I'd say each one has their own strength. Genshin is very good at design. I'd say they focus on beautiful touch that make every thing they made eye catching because of how gorgeous the design is. While wuwa is very good at making fast pace combat to the point it just feels so fast yet smooth. Combo, switching, kit, I'd say wuwa has the upper hand. Also genshin is good with creating gorgeous world that is so nice to see, but wuwa i think is good at making the intense situation in the game n story being potray in its world with eerie touch to the world design and mobs. You can definitely feel the tense atmosphere from the world itself that other than city or village, nowhere else is safe
Genshin Stans are all about making fun of wow's outfits even though they're absolutely stunning, but when it comes to the combat they're speechless! Its not that Genshin has awful combat, but it really is no where near as fun as Wuwa's and I can't wait to see what this game brings us after a few years of release!
Genshin character designs are bland. GI in-game characters are different as they are advertised it. Look at Itto's nodle arms and Dilcu's lifeless character model.
I can say the world we live in looks bland, and still that does not prove anything about the world. It just proves how hateful and salty i am. That is just pure stupidity. Fuck the game shills. Just play what you want and be happy with it.
Its very subjective. Personally I find WuWa designs bland. But their 3D models are top notch! Genshin's 3D models always butchers the original design of the characters
yeah you dont have time to do that anyway, you realize there are like, 400+ nodes of MINT you could be collecting right now? are you even maxed bro? hows your genshin end game bro, i bet i got more mint than you! you scared timmy's pigeons lately? WOOOO THAT IS SO FUN, never gets old. dont you love pressing E, Q, E, Q, E, Q, E, E, E, Q and just repeating that over and over as the entire combat system? LOL, imagine not having a time slow on dodge/parry, no stylish flair to the combat and you have the balls to show your face here with your little genshin video channel :) go farm some artifact sets with DEF, maybe hoyo will send you 4 wishes for the next major anni :D
ZZZ is iffy imo like I'm trying to enjoy it the best I can but I just can't get into the combat I mean so far my characters are level 30 and level 5 skills but it just doesn't feel good to play. I'm using Neko, Emby, and Nicole and it feels much better than my Solider 11 team did but WuWa's combat is still on another level in comparison. To be fair I still don't have access to ZZZ's artifacts.
@@user-rp7ub8qz8y true its not really overrated at all but I do think ZZZ is overhated lol I'm trying to give ZZZ a chance I like the story and atmosphere but I don't understand the combat yet
You can stare at Jinshi's outfit for 10 minutes and still discover new details on her outfit that you didn't even know she had. You won't fully understand her design until you've stared at her for hours
So, when WuWa uses muted-color palette, it's bad. But when ZZZ uses the same palette + marvel filter on top of that, it's good? I guess some people just doesn't have eyes and logic.
Double standards at it's finest
This, it's bad design when it's not mihoyo game
I think the colour palette of each character in wuthering waves fits perfectly into the world they've built in the game tbf
I prefer WuWa character models more than Genshin. Not saying that Genshin's models are bad, I just like simple color palettes and not saturated colors. One could argue that WuWa character models are simplistic but once you see what they can do in combat, everything just comes together. Jinhsi might be the perfect example for this since I think Jinhsi has the most complex palette atm. Her outfit is just a silver white dress with black contrast, and then you see her in action and you see white golds and the jade dragon. All of a sudden, you see a lot of colors using her. In a sense, I could even argue that their models are functional to what they can do in combat. Like Sanhua's outfit being all black while her skills and liberation puts bluish-white ice glaciers on the field. And, since Sanhua's outfit is black, you could easily spot her after all those shenanigans.
when you are older you naturally will prioritize wuwa design.. if you are of younger audience maybe genshin model will appeal you more because how colorful it is like disney theme.. while wuwa is more dark since it's apocalypse setting i'm talking both the world and the character.. because the character cloth usually goes hand in hand with the world they belong in
I think you're talking more about art direction and less about models. Yes art direction is subjective and each game has their own vision and that's perfectly fine.
"Models" however are pretty quantifiable and objective in my opinion. Just compare their 2D splash arts and their 3D in game models. Should be easy to tell which game's models will stand strong in the face of scrutiny and closer inspection.
@@kayyam9959 TBF even PGR have more Pallete
@@alvinvalentino5797 err having more color pallete doesnt mean its better (just saying) especially in wuwa type of world
@@alvinvalentino5797 If you're trying to compare it to PGR current vers sure + paid coatings but 1.0 .
Lucia Black Red
Liv white black with golden stuff
Nanami Black brown.
Lee, Yuanwu stole his drip and color.
Watanabe brown black.
Bianca White black
Karenina Yellow black.
everytime a PGR character is announced, the idiots always complain of the colors etc, until they see the gameplay and animation and realize, thats when the character is complete to give an opinion on him/her, and always turn around the opinions, because kuro use a lot of effects and animation aside the PNG to sell the characters.
This will happend the next patch with the first character on wuwa, when the idiots see Xiangli Yao ingame with animations and voice, they will flip like burgers.
He has sick animations for sure but didnt get me hyped. Zhezhi doh damn So fluid. I really appreaciate Kuro that put so much love and details into her animations.
Wuwa made me realize how shit genshin characters look in game 😂
genshin shills is 100% nitpicking cuz they alr admitted their game have worse combat,QoL,Graphics,Rewards,Dev communication,banners,exploration,competitive players approach than wuwa so theyre getting mad at wuwa for having like bugs,translation(which there is also tons in genshin,zzz release) so they bringing shit up like my game Have better characters than you,our game have better story,our game have better music(which is not even good and mostly yapfest like the writers are just getting paid by word count) yada yada yada nonsense which is pointless argument cuz its subjective and depends on users some like wuwa story some like genshin story and some like wuwa chars vice versa while the things mention above is not subjective and its just there as facts
Something is wrong with your brain.
BASED AND TRUE!
most of the current new toxic genshin shills are not even day 1 genshin
That's all they got tbh.. while forgetting everything about the current situation of genshin.. those new endgame content made me quit it fully..
@@Schizo_Pink_Pekora yeah the new endgame experience was really bad. I'd prefer my normal abyss over that new dogsh*t.
Wuwa's designs have a theme, and while you could argue they're more bland compared to Genshin. I would say Genshin designs are a little over tuned, to the point that they don't really fit the world in comparison with NPCs. All the Jinzhou characters, even though their designs are clearly more tuned up, they still fit the designs of the NPCs, and so they fit more cohesively with the world design.
Put any 2 models from wuwa and gensh next to each other. genshins look cheap and not detailed
Something is wrong with your brain.
black or dark color is pretty much KURO's signature thing (cuz it says in the name too XD)
I think the desaturation fits WuWa’s more post apocalyptic world
Keep in mind, Kuro games are not new to fashion and design. Look at PGR with their outfits, mind blowing creativity and designs. Some may see that WuWa's designs aren't as flashy or stand out, but you have to understand that this is a completely different style Kuro is trying to play around and work with. They already did very well with Jinhsi, Yinlin, Jiyan and Changli's design. As time progresses, we may see even more better designs for characters, just like how Genshin had pretty boring character designs in its first couple months of the game.
To me as an artist, two of the main criteria for a good character design are whether the design can convey the character visually (identity, personality, profession, etc) and whether the character design actually fits in their setting. I think WuWa succeeds in both aspects. But personally I'm just partial to Hoyo's character designs from Genshin onwards lol (I do like some HI3 designs too but not a lot tbh)
I am looking forward to seeing more characters in the future, but rn it's kind of a mixed bag for me
WuWa is peak character design
Personally .. it's not about colors as much as the art style ig. Got no knowledge about designing
However.
Hoyo games characters are super flashy and more cartoonish and childish idea of men and women.
Like imagine if there was a collab and genshin is gonna release yinlin. Even thu she dresses in black, the artstyle is gonna be super cartoonish and bad.
So i don't think it's about wearing black. It's about the art itself or model
More mature ig? Is that what you were saying or did it go over my head
Wuthering waves design and 3d models is a standard. Ppl accustomed to hoyo designs tend to not able to appreciate certain artistic design choices and cant see past the surface. Dont get me started on GI and HSR clothes which they copy paste to various characters...if they use argument that wuwa has same color pallette or belts
Genshin is mostly for kids lol. The only chars I like (from perspective of design) are Navia, kokomi, nahida, alhaitham and wriothesley. (u can prob see the patterns, white & black 😂)
Meanwhile in Wuwa, I like almost every 5 stars chars except encore (shes alright). I also rlly like Baizhi and Sanhua, they are so pretty.. I saw the new chars drip marketing too, the girl is SO CUTE omg..
Also, is it just me that I think body proportions in genshin is a bit off?
Melty Blood is a good study case of what matter in designing characters in combat games
Bland? Look at ZZZ.
How? The characters clearly have a lot of personality…
ALOT of personality… hehe
Legit I drop it because I couldn't find anyone interesting
Lmao so true 😂
Most of ZZZ's cast look like 4-stars. If you present me the cast of current ZZZ characters without their rarity indicator I couldn't tell which ones are 5-stars.
everyone in ZZZ looks like a teen or child. I just don't like their designs at all compared to HSR or WuWa.
wuwa design bland? to think i'll live long enough to see this headline.. well joke aside nay.. they do feel way less colorful than mihoyo game but i don't think this is what the talk is about ok here first you need to know the game concept it's after apocalypse if you start putting childish and colorful looking cloths too much (i mean we do got encore) like ex genshin which suit their theme of colorful world in this wuwa world which looks void because of the concept than it will feel like a clown because of the mismatch.. got what i mean? lastly colorful doesn't mean it has better design.. tbf i even hardpressed to search someone for example in gi to fought changli design.. and jinhsi design herself is top notch.. the cloth is just so so tho.. but point is let's adjust our thinking to the game concept ok
A lot of WuWa character wears techwear, which is practicle for high mobility movement and fights.
This is what you are missing. The characters in Genshin are wearing dresses which are utterly unsuitable for combat but are pretty and fits a ball scenario. So it feels like bringing a dancing wear to combat, it makes no sense, but it's cool.
Genshin's design looks so fantastical, bright and whimsical. Characters like Jean and Diluc always stood out to me as their clothes looks like actual clothes. Stylish but not overly stylized.
Wuthering Waves design seems much more sleek and comfy to wear. Which is good to me as its almost as if everyone is dressed like Diluc and Jean
I recommend a video by Star Rail Crusader titled "Wuthering Waves - Fantasy, Dystopia and Jiggle Physics"
Personally, I like darker design colors + dark hues but bolder shiny/flarey/glowy outfits(like Yinlin or Changli and Jiyan) as many of their sci-fi design elements remind me of mostly Xenoblade Chronicles 2 and Action Taimanin character clothing designs and color level which very much hooked me as I never played or experienced Genshin design and saturation level.
Wuwa char quality is way higher than genshin. if u look closely all characters in wuwa are so close to their 2d arts that its easy for wuthering waves trailers to transition to 3d to 2d while genshin,zzz,star rail are so far off even with max graphics
I think Genshin Impact and Honkai Star Rail and most other games in general have TOO MUCH detail, like I swear 80% of the characters in Genshin have those scarf cape things that hang down their back maybe its a chinese thing but I hate it personally and think many characters would look better without them and then theres so much extra assessory stuff like sometimes they make sense and the character turns out amazing but other times it comes off as too much like I'm not saying they need to be more revealing but sometimes "less is more" I just feel like some Characters appear overly cluttered in a way.
Even on Fortnite though I only use like 10-15 skins and the rest of them are archived so I'm a very picky person, personally I think WuWa's designs are fine most of them don't appear overly cluttered besides like Verina or Jinhsi but I love Jinhsi's design and I love her damage too XD but I notice most of the male skins seem to be similiar with like coats or capes.
Really hit the spot straight up facts!! 😀
in short KURO's theme in designs are leaning more towards mature-ish , gothic, dark type of style while genshin caters more in using vibrant colors in which it attracts lower aged audience. Two games has different target demographs thats why it will never meet in the middle.
*me looking at the Emilie's design and animations: 🤣🤣😂😂😂😂
I think it's perfectly reasonable to prefer the more realistic character proportions (that's why Star Rail having 2 more realistic body types is nice) or prefer the more realistic take on desaturated colors. The game being 4 years newer with newer graphics also is a valid reason to prefer it.
But I don't think it's just the desaturated colors making a difference.
I do prefer Genshin's, but it's more so because there's already so many post apocalyptic settings for games. I want the fantasy game. But I also have seen plenty of fan edits recoloring the characters. Some of my favorites feature more muted colors, and the character design is so good they still shine underneath.
Because if I compared to other gatcha, I think Arkknights and PGR have stronger designs that actually pop (with or without the realistic proportions) with the same basic world aesthetic, and if I compare to other rpgs, I think the Xenoblade franchise is more appealing, but the Nier universe (which is a direct inspiration) does it better.
Me on my knees begging for designs like Lamia to make it into wuwa
And Mechananami😫
Brruh what are those graphics? It's not Wuthering Waves anymore it's Wuthering Lakes 😭
Genshin is for kids , kids like colorful things 😂
so true
I think both GI and Wuwa have their respected character designs done well in their respective games. From what I see, Genshin's character designs are indeed more saturated and colorful since the entire game revolves around high fantasy and adventure. In WuWa, the concept is still the same except it has a sci-fi-apocalyptic vibes and the game has a more semi-realistic tone than Genshin. I think this is why Wuwa's character designs have a lot more black because they imitate a "realistic aspect" that is fitting in their world.
I feel hoyo's design and color is easy to simplify since you can recognize them with their basic color, and this leads to way more fanart of hoyo's game compared to kuro's. I can understand with PGR since not everyone likes drawing mechanical parts but wuwa's fanarts being this dry is kinda unexpected.
Esthetics, color and character design are way much better in Genshin Impact. I"ll give them that. WuWa's looks at 1st for me does not look that good until for some reason I began to get used to it. Also the pros in WuWa outweight its con.
Something that I like (and much prefer) about both WuWa and ZZZ is that the characters don’t look like typical vibrant anime protagonists and fit naturally into the game.
My problem w/ Genshin is that their NPCs and character designs are so vastly different, it feels like every character isekai’d from another world. Their designs are mostly good, but character models are a bit jarring when you notice their big heads.
Wuwa's characters have a more well-proportioned proportion. In contrast, in order to be both cute and sexy, GI's characters generally have big heads and long legs, which makes their torsos extremely small. Originally, miHoYo could make up for it with a larger boobs, but with Rosaria being nerfed, things became irreparable, and probably only Raiden Shogun survived
I have a convo with a cosplayer friend and he went 30 minutes of how stupid Wanderer's outfit is, and he is more on the simpler side of Genshin designs. He said that a lot of those stuff on that outfit connected/ attach to NOWHERE, it floats on itself, and honestly perfectly described how impractical and dumb Hoyo character designs are. They've had some classics I admit but majority of it is just random bullshit go. Comparing to Wuwa the designs are actually practical, like, it make sense. If you're cosplayers or artists that actually studied character design the more you will appreciate WW designs. I am an artist myself and I found joy drawing WW characters wayyyy more than Hoyo designs (I drew a lot of them, trust me)
What I like about wuwa's design is they are pretty easily be modified from real life clothings to cosplay. Take yang yang's dress for example, U can find a similar looking enough dress, get some black stockings and heels and some berret, then add the extra ornamental stuff. Same with verina's, just find a similarly colored dress, add some flower ormanents and you're done. Granted not everyone is this way, but I'm sure those who are into tech ware can find something close to their vibe
I don't think the problem is how they look but how they are. Currently out of the whole cast only few have any personality and colour in them. Chixia and Changli. Maybe Jinshi. Others are just sexy dolls with names.
Playing WuWa with lowest brightness is BiS.
I come from GI and aside from Shenhe and Eula who's designs are very close to WuWa's I much prefer ever so slightly muted colours of WuWa's outfits. It makes them look like they are actually being worn by these characters, instead of being sparkling brand new looking with saturated colours.
Changli and Yinlin are perfect mid ground imo between GI oversaturated colour palette and WuWa more muted colours. Colours on them are vibrant, but not to the point of standing out from everything around them.
Raiden's and Clorinde's colours palettes would also fit WuWa quite well due to blues and purples not being as vibrant as every other character's design in GI.
Black is good
Like lmao all my favourite designs in hoyo got a lot of black
Colour aside which seems to be the focus of this video but I just got frustrated of dorks, kids and kpop looking characters in genshin. It’s been literal years do something different, give us new models, push the boundaries, anything except continuing to play it safe
WuWa is better for me. I can't play a game that keeps me attacking with the brighest colors in the world all the time. I guess it's just my preference since I'm hyped to Arknights Endfield that is even more gray than wuwa lol
I used to love gi or any hoyo game design, but after a while i started to like kuro games design more idk why…
Of course it bland, like really? U wanna colorful characters on post-apocalypse theme games, and if u want more colorful characters design then go to GI they make adventures type game without Post-Apocalypse Theme but if u want more darker toned color type then Wuwa it is, it's simple not need to hard thinking about it. It's just games choose what type games u want to play
i genuinely don't care as long as not 100% same
and i like the characters,
that's enough for me to spend the money to get the characters
and also genuinely don't care about color palette/saturation shit etc
as long as the graphic is good and not a PSone graphic era
is more than enough to play the game
the most important thing is as long as you enjoy the game, you like the game then..
just play it! if you don't like it, just leave it! is that simple
Nah, I prefer WuWa model, it's just simply majestic , it's not too anime alike and the color doesn't make me wanna throw up.
pgr is better than wuwa well they same dev,wuwa is better than genshin and u cannot compare to genshin at this point cause genshin already tons of char.if you compare to vanilla genshin wuwa is way better than genshin yet kuro dev still earn way lesser than genshin.tbh genshin earn soooo bloody much they suppose to be better compare to kuro yet they still fail.
This is me when I first started pgr 3 years ago, it took some time getting used to but you will eventually find Kuro mature design much better than the rainbow theme Hoyo used too, as a matter of fact I cant even like hoyo design anymore, it looks like it treat you like a kid 😂
If WuWa designs are bland then how bland are Genshin characters? They all wear cheap looking outfits, 99% of them look like it's all from Chinese culture.
WuWa uses a lot of Chinese inspired outfits too but they at least mix it with more modern designs.
I think Star Rail got the most unique designs of these 3, which makes sense since it's a space traveling game so multiple planets with different cultures.
And as much sht as I talk about ZZZ, I do think it has the most variation in character designs. Even if some of them are furries. lol
Okay, Star Rail has some really nice designs, but it actively has the most copy paste between the games lol. Genshin has objectively the least percentage of actual Chinese fashion.
There are still a lot of design, especially the outfits, that looks good in Genshin. Lumine's clothes if you really look at it is amazing. However, the game is starting to look dated, hence why HSR looks amazing. WUWA came out of this year so it makes sense that it looks better and it's not like this is Kuro's first game. Their design is always thematic.
Not every character needs to look like they are on a fantasy pantomime, each to their own but i think wuwas designs fit the world
The design particularly in Jinzhou is more conservative but they fit a city that is constantly defending against an invasion more than a happy go lucky color scheme. Maybe in another country maybe they will be brighter and the city less spartanlike. I'm sure the other countries won't look exactly like Jinzhou, I mean just look at Mt. Firmament, it's so different from Jinzhou.
Actually, the designs are anything but bland if you take a closer look at them. Especially when you see the characters in action, a lot of things make more sense. I also think the body models are quite good so far. There are other things that I don't find so successful. But I'm sure that Kuro will come up with a lot of surprises.
Personaly as someone that haven't played a single hoyo game, I find these complain stupid, it's just not going for the same aesthetic.
BUT I also personaly find the character design relatively bland, but not in term of clothes or colors, they just feel less inspired compared to PGR's characters (Kurogames other gacha game), they just feel more... "generic anime character"-ish to me, like the realy early PGR characters, it feel like a step back.
Like, check some recent PGR characters like Lamia, No XXI Feral, Noctis, Teddy, Bridget (the later 3 being equivalent of 4stars),
Or hell, Nanami starfearer, wich just pilot mech as if it was normal...
the character designs are just so much more inspired and exude much more personality IMO.
And that without taking the skins into account.
Even compared to Arknights, another gacha with a similar aesthtic of more grounded/practical/techwear designs and washed colors, Wuwa's desing strugle in the comparison IMO.
There's not a character yet that realy made me go "wow", still like most of them tho.
WuWa's models are far superior to me in every way.
Brother there’s how many Wuwa characters? How long has the game been out? Compared to genshin’s 50+ on top of having 4 years of development. Hoyo shills are just upset that the devs actually care about their players.
i love wuwa colorway and design the character is also great, compared to other gacha game characters with colorful design
i hate powerpuff girls
They really compare a 2020 game, and a 2024 game? It's obviously that wuwa better than genshin in everything. I wonder how much they get paid to ask such stupid questions.
hoyo design is too cartoonish for my liking. i like wuwa design more. btw, i play both, but i like wuwa character design more. but yeah, i would agree with that, that the color pallette in wuwa is less saturated however, you can tweak that with in game settings and in nvidia setting as well.
Wuwa is perfect design i love dark theme if you played multiple games you will Love the Art style of wuwa but bro seriously Genshin just lock your mind cuz its so colourful wuwa is near perfect of there art style
ngl I agree, the characters in ZZZ are kind of bland. Eversince ive started WUWA last week, ive been in love with this game. Im a simp for changli, yinlin, female rover, and chixia. Everything about wuwa is just better than every other gacha game.
being bland or good in designs of who is better bet. the 2 is always be subjective imo,
take it like if we any WuWa characters in GI game it woupd definitely looks weird and vice versa.
personally Id say I prefer WuWa design, I kinda find them pretty mature compare to GI.
GI simps need to chill, heck their chara design imo isnt even the best among Hoyo works, HI3 clapped them by miles
I'm not saying one is better than the other but I'd say each one has their own strength.
Genshin is very good at design. I'd say they focus on beautiful touch that make every thing they made eye catching because of how gorgeous the design is.
While wuwa is very good at making fast pace combat to the point it just feels so fast yet smooth. Combo, switching, kit, I'd say wuwa has the upper hand.
Also genshin is good with creating gorgeous world that is so nice to see, but wuwa i think is good at making the intense situation in the game n story being potray in its world with eerie touch to the world design and mobs. You can definitely feel the tense atmosphere from the world itself that other than city or village, nowhere else is safe
Bland? The conclusion for me it is still hard to draw tho.
Genshin Stans are all about making fun of wow's outfits even though they're absolutely stunning, but when it comes to the combat they're speechless! Its not that Genshin has awful combat, but it really is no where near as fun as Wuwa's and I can't wait to see what this game brings us after a few years of release!
im watching this 3 am.
and when you said
There's alot of black in WW
my brain : So Genshin Player is Racist??
🤣
It's okay for you to like bland characters
Bland? Have they seen venti, albedo, razor?
Don't even forget that ugly ass bland, red hair batman rip-off 💀
Genshin character designs are bland. GI in-game characters are different as they are advertised it. Look at Itto's nodle arms and Dilcu's lifeless character model.
yep they have more black bcoz kuro in japanese = black hahaha just my joke speculation but maybe? right?
I can say the world we live in looks bland, and still that does not prove anything about the world. It just proves how hateful and salty i am. That is just pure stupidity. Fuck the game shills. Just play what you want and be happy with it.
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BRO This game is supposed to be ANIME S.T.A.L.K.E.R.
Based video
Its very subjective. Personally I find WuWa designs bland. But their 3D models are top notch! Genshin's 3D models always butchers the original design of the characters
No but yes idk it's complicated. The names suck though since they are mostly Chinese names I can't pronounce properly.
Entertaining gibberish talking points like this is disappointing.
yeah you dont have time to do that anyway, you realize there are like, 400+ nodes of MINT you could be collecting right now? are you even maxed bro? hows your genshin end game bro, i bet i got more mint than you! you scared timmy's pigeons lately? WOOOO THAT IS SO FUN, never gets old. dont you love pressing E, Q, E, Q, E, Q, E, E, E, Q and just repeating that over and over as the entire combat system? LOL, imagine not having a time slow on dodge/parry, no stylish flair to the combat and you have the balls to show your face here with your little genshin video channel :) go farm some artifact sets with DEF, maybe hoyo will send you 4 wishes for the next major anni :D
Mid-bum got cooked!
Wuwa is currently the most overrated gacha game zzz much better.
😮 okay
And what?
Zzz overrated?
Bruh this game is the most hated gacha game i ever seen
ZZZ is iffy imo like I'm trying to enjoy it the best I can but I just can't get into the combat I mean so far my characters are level 30 and level 5 skills but it just doesn't feel good to play. I'm using Neko, Emby, and Nicole and it feels much better than my Solider 11 team did but WuWa's combat is still on another level in comparison. To be fair I still don't have access to ZZZ's artifacts.
@@FerinaAryele i think he just hating only if he really not in to the game(wuwa)
So i respect his opinion
But saying it's overrated is just hating tbh
@@user-rp7ub8qz8y true its not really overrated at all but I do think ZZZ is overhated lol I'm trying to give ZZZ a chance I like the story and atmosphere but I don't understand the combat yet
LMAO ZZZ it's a bomb 😂
Bland...
*looks at Jiyan's body*
You can stare at Jinshi's outfit for 10 minutes and still discover new details on her outfit that you didn't even know she had. You won't fully understand her design until you've stared at her for hours
Genshin is for poor tacky people with 0ntaste, except a few cool cases like diluc or Jean, mona, but furina and shit like that god awful