The Problem With Wuthering Waves Designs
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- Опубликовано: 17 окт 2024
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Well the color palette could be explained with the art style of Kuro characters. I mean look at punishing gray raven. They all have this. Overall the color in the game of WuWa is less colorful. Maybe they want give theyr game a less childish touch and not appeal to kids? I personally love genshin designs more. Just tried to explain what’s going on
Have to disagree with the Jianxin take, I think she the only one where the black/white colour really makes sense given her whole thing is the ying and yang.
Finally, someone who knows what's up.
As a Main DPS Jianxin Main, I approve this message 👍
then yang yang should be all black, and ying ying should be all white. just kidding, I also love her because of her smile
@@irvinp688her wink + smile
while they did select the muted color aesthetic i personally like seeing things that people could wear. I'm in general not a huge fan of using tons of different colors or super bright colors, this kinda design is purely preference though.
I didn't consider this perspective! A lot of the designs could probably be easier to cosplay compared to the other gacha chara designs we see.
Functional outfits>>>anything else
@@Kurokami112 yeah if the function of Chixia's outfit is to look like a hippie asking for a beating then I agree.
@@noxauranyxHey just so you know that the reason why black and white is a primary color in the outfits is the fact they live in an post apocalyptic world, it’s not an excuse but it makes it make sense
@@Kurokami112 functional outfits? people are even sluttier IRL than anime characters.
I actually really like the designs and muted color aesthetic. it gives the game a uniqueness that separates it from other open world rpgs that it competes with, and gives it a sense of realism. And there are still designs like encore, Verina, yinlin, jihnsi, changli, etc that have different palates. It just makes everything fit together more nicely, and while not every character has that uniqueness that genshin has, with the setting of the game and the storyline, I think the muted color and more realistic approach fits the game better,
That is true! Perhaps instead of viewing it as an issue this can instead be a unique point for Wuthering Waves and Kuro Games!
Speaking of uniqueness, putting dori and diona side to side makes me wonder if one is just a skin for the other
That's quite classical Cyberpunkish anime style.
@@dokutah2480 Dori and Diona ? Yea, they look so same..... 🤡
@@Xelluse
I played Punishing Gray Raven (Kuro's previous game) and the color palettes and design style is similar to that game considering both games are set in a post apocalyptic world. It's definitely not for everyone but I personally prefer the characters in this game and I think makes it stand out to me. I also prefer the overall art direction/art style as well with a lot of mature characters.
Ooh that's interesting! I like the mature approach as well and I'm curious to see how not only the story develops, but what characters and their designs will look like down the road!
I like most of the designs even though there is a lot of a similar color palette. But the jiggle physics are too much IMO, especially characters like Yinlin, she looks good, she doesn't need to have perpetual motion boobs spinning while she stands still. If the onigiri pants were too much I think they need to realize a lot of us find the insane physics distracting too. I do kind of hope the designs stray more from Genshin and other games with characters like Calcharo. Some of the designs are so close to Genshin characters they feel more like Hoyoverse characters than some actual Hoyoverse expy characters.
Dial up the jiggle
The slight jiggle when she’s idle is due to her heavy breathing. If you zoom in and look closely you will see that her body is moving slight causing it to jiggle while idle. You need to realize most characters in the game ain’t wearing bras to begin with hence the heavy jiggling. Character with tight clothing barely if not don’t have the jiggle physiques at all like Yang Yang, Sanhua etc
@@calebstephan2083 That is not how boobs work lol. Her boobs are literally rotating separate from each other, she could be breathing like a track star that just did a marathon and it wouldn't make her boobs just go all over the place in her dress. And that next point is also no true, characters like Taoqi, that kind of top would not be moving like that, same thing with Changli not to mention all 3 have no practical reason to have outfits that allow their boobs to do any of that, 2 of them are warriors with claymores and Yinlin's whole outfit doesn't really make sense with her character. She's trying to blend in and sneak around but she has the most eye catching sexual outfit. You can try and spin it but the reality is they look like that just because females in these games sell sex. The guys actually are designed for their function because they don't usually sexualize them for sales in the same way and that is off putting for people like me that would rather all the characters match their function instead of the girls just being overly bouncy at every opportunity because they want guys to pull.
@@mismismism idc, preach to someone else
@@lclnbm You commented to my post, no one is preaching but you, no one sent for you, this is my opinion.
I like that they are trying to adhere to a certain aesthetic and I'm all for it, but it doesn't have to be only black and white, they could use a wide range of other muted colors and include some bright details
4:40 it's probably due to her mutation
Yangyangs feather hair
Mortefi dragon arm
Calcharo corruption
Verina vine hair
LingYang being a human with animal features (he's an animal who shapeshifted to a human lore wise)
Sanhua sharingan she's blind to everything but strong energy so she sees us perfectly
Taoqis narcolepsy
Jiyans dragon eyes
Jinhsi has dragon horns
Changli has a Phoenix arm
You get the idea
Chixia isn't originally a redhead either
Exactly. Jiyan also has green dragon scales on his neck which is covered by the turtle neck he wear but you can see a bit of it coming out below his cheek area.
I do like the designs better in genshin since they stand out more. But i think both the tone and settings of the games play a part, too. In genshin, it's taking place during what we would consider 16 to 1800s, where flashy designs were the norm, especially in high society. Whereas in WuWa, its more modern where simplicity and function is the more prevalent style. I think the outfits fit the respective tones of their games at least.
the best comment i've seen so far. i hate how many genshin and wuwa fans fighting each other over which designs are better. both fit their game so genshin fans saying wuwa designs are boring bc too pale or wuwa fans saying genshin designs are too childish bc they are colorful (i hate the colorful = immature stereotype in general. let adults wear colours if they want to. 😭) is annoying, in the end it's just a matter of personal taste.
@niconii3663 personally, the "battling" between genshin and WuWa is dumb to me. It's like the whole console war thing. I just bought all the consoles and built a pc so i can play all the games. I play both genshin and WuWa, and they both have pros and cons. But i still like both and will continue playing both.
i feel like the existence of nier automata invalidates the whole "muted color palette bad" argument. if you played PGR you'd realize how much Kuro adores and is inspired by Nier from the aesthetics down to the sound effect design of the UI
i totally respect anyone saying the designs aren't their style, but to equate monochrome/muted palette to bad design like it's objective fact is just wrong ❤
there's also the fact that Kuro loves their particle effects, i believe the muted color designs help to emphasize the flashy effects your character is actually doing. i've been playing changli a ton and if she had a rainbow palette like a genshin character, it would be an eye sore because her attacks have so many colorful effects
in PGR the effects are gorgeous and abundant, and i feel they're planning the same for future Wuwa characters. thanks to muted color palettes we are not at risk of seizure :3
Personally i really do like Jianxin's design.
-The mostly black and white color scheme, representing Yin and Yang and her taoist ideals.
-The outfit being a relatively modest outfit compared to a lot of the cast, but still having a bit of skin to show that, although she's from the mountains and grew up as a monk, she's very free with how she thinks while still being able to uphold her taoist ideals. Although i feel this COULD have been done a little more nicely by making the outfit a LITTLE bit more consistent, and maybe even add more flowing aspects to emphasis her aero element/free flowing nature, like a long, detached sleeve or something rather than her long arm length gloves. I feel its good enough as is.
-The stupidly long Ahoge. Honestly i just really love it lol.
And yeah, i feel less crazy knowing im not the only who feels like Female Rovers design feels really weird in a lot of places.
-the random straps
-Her...shorts? When you look at them and think about it, dont make ANY sense dimensionally
-The BIG ASS BOW that is glued to her head.
Great video though! Definitely interesting to hear what you had to say about things.
Kinda fitting in a apocalyptic world, again is not good having a rainbow design in this genre. Overall the design kinda cool
Agree with you here
Just cuz you can't have rainbow bubbly color designs doesn't means you can't have even the bare minimum color variety. With Changli and Jinhshi out, we're nearing atleast half the roster where their primary colors are white mixed with a secondary minor color
Atleast black universally looks cool but white by itself is a boring color which very few people can pull and most importantly, this is a gacha game. It doesn't matters if Wuwa's Genshin 2.0 or not but characters need to differ and look different from each other. Colors play a major part in separating characters from each other and if we end up getting a roster where half of the characters look nearly the same, that also on a boring color, people might stop pulling, no matter how meta the certain characters are.
Appearances matter
@@AratakiBullPowerSiddo1 what're you yapping about? Also don't mention genshin or whatever that is, doesn't care about the color as long as the design is nice and appealing to the eyes. Look what happened to Itto, that's what you call a boring design very horrendous.
Absolutely no characters appear to be in a post-apocalypse. I agree that more neutral colors go better, but that doesn't change the fact that if that's the reason for the colors to be like that, then they left something to be desired with the rest of the design. I think they simply chose this color palette to visually match the game's proposal.
Just wanna talk about how most of these designs don't make any sense at all as clothes or outfits--to the point where most of them look AI-designed, then real artists cleaned up the generated concepts. Chixia is easily the biggest offender, just mentally imagining what it's like to put on or take off her outfit is a headache and actually examining her clothes reveals they make NO physical sense. Her top is made of three completely separate garments, she's wearing half of a jacket, and the thing around her waist isn't even a shirt or coat--it just looks like one. Jiyan also only has half a coat with the illusion that it's folded up and every segment of Yinlin's design is inconsistent. Game looks absolutely gorgeous, but I would be surprised if all of the designs were made by real people.
Chixia basically has on a poncho and is rocking shorts and a sports bra or bandages
What makes you question that the team used ai to design the characters
Yinlin had her design altered before Jiyan is the only character unchanged
Chixia was an entirely different being before
Back then all the characters had no sense of style or variations they all looked the same
feel free to check out the old chixia model it's a night and day difference
The only thing I can say about her design is out of everyone she's got the most random assortment of things on her
I think it adds to her free spirit of a character who's constantly on the go
Her hands light up when she shoots I'd be surprised if her clothes burned up and that's why she wears shorter clothing
Yeah cuz genshins outfits make so much sense 💀 what are you even talking about.
@-irumean-3919 Why bring genshin into the mix? This is a video about WuWa 😂
Well..the designs are meant to be appealing and cool I guess. Most of the time designs make no sense in many games. And even tho I personally hate all the debate between certain gacha games I like how each developer takes their own direction for character design. It's all personal preference in the end😊
For Chixia's top, you see different color and assume it's separate, when it can be just one clothing made from parts stitch together. It fits her anyway, that's what characters design all about.
For Jiyan's half coat, it's a nod to popular depiction of ancient Chinese General, Guan Yu. Not only design, his name and weapon is also a reference.
Long live black/white/gold + character specific color.
i like most of the designs and how they mix together, the most monochromatic ones like sanhua and baizhi are really cool, and the most colorful like verina or danjin are beautiful, without trying to outshine every other character or competing for attention.
Yeah some details make no sense, like f.rover straps, but given how original the designs are in gacha space i think they turned out really good.
I'd say the designs turn out really well too! This color palette is a really good one and I can see why the designers chose to use this one lots. My main worry was that the characters may blend together. :o I do agree Sanhua and Baizhi have to be one of my top designs from that group!
To give more clearance - Kokomi is not a General btw, General is Goro and he is not originally a military guy, but he began leading the rebellion, Kokomi is a Priestess of Watatsumi Shrine and her design is literally telling her story and even story of her bloodline, that forcefully made her a Priestess (no more spoilers), even when she did not want to... So Kokomi should have no details that pointing that she is some sort of General, cos she is not one and she is not a leader of an army......... Pope in Crusade wars did not wear any specific uniform that points that he is a head of entire army.
P.S. - Goro's design references the Jokyo Sodo and Shimabara rebellions and have a lot of from Tsukiyomi-no-mikoto and his outfit is shozoku and he wears tekko, hakama, and kyahan, so sorry, but ironically Goro have one of the most realistic designs in the game to real history..... 🤷♂
That's the comment I wanted to see. Thanks stranger.
Encore doesnt have "white hair", it's wool, or "sheep hair"? Idk what u call it in English. She has mutations like many other characters (hard to miss with the ram horns in her ultimate). I understand not liking them but it's honestly the only indicator of her mutation outside combat so I thinks its fine. I didn't even notice it at the beginning.
About Kokomi... She's more priestess than leader of an army. This is why she's wearing priestess's clothes.
Everytime someone said something about her in Genshin, was about her being an leader and brilliant strategist (and it's her role in Inazuma story). But this is cool to know, now makes much more sense why she wear this.
I kinda disagree as the muted color is very common in this setting. It also helps make any bright colors like skills and burst stand out. If it does add more bright colors, it would be harder to see the parry mechanic. On itself it does look monotone and dull but it does work very well with this game, but in a game like genshin it wouldn't work as well.
This is a really good point! I do hope the design team explores more with the muted colors, but the bursts do work really well with the game!
Basically this yeah, the art style should not clash upon itself but also not upon the game. I still play Genshin and Tower of Fantasy along with WuWa and holy bajeezus ToF had a time where they NEEDED to clean up the visual clutter from the start of design. It looks really cool but most times I just aim where I see damage numbers because I can't see anything. Having a function to just lower the effects opacity is not a good solution. Fortunately newer characters did not suffer that disastrous decision and started to look more clean like Genshin.
About Yangyang, her feathers turns blue-ish when she's on full stack
What ?! I have to check that out !
@@MikojinToyunda it looks really good at night
@@primadansaripudin9269 Indeed !!
iirc, jianxin too for her shield
The black, white, and red seems to be a motif probably related to the little story Scar gives you upon meeting him. Lots of black, white, and red in that story too. Not sure where the green and blue from Verina, Yuanwu, etc., come into play though if any.
sounds more like a preference rather than a problem. I personally like the designs, especially female rover.
I like the designs too! Would just like some more variety, and this is an opinion based video so thats very fair!
@@noxauranyxthere’s literally only like 6 five star characters so far 🤦. Complaining about variety in a game that just came out with barely any characters? Come on now. Every gacha game that release in 1.0 had lack of variety of character as well because there were BARELY ANY CHARACTERS
@@calebstephan2083All the hoyo games when they 1st came out had decent color variety among all the characters. Even ZZZ, a post apocalyptic game that's gonna release next week, has more color variety in the base game than Wuwa did
It doesn't matters if the games are post apocalyptic or not. Color variety in your characters matter, especially in a gacha game where you want your characters to sell. Nobody will want to pull for characters no matter how meta they are if their designs can't attract their attention first
Having half of your roster looking the same in a gacha game is the last thing you wanna do
It's just a biased opinion lol
to me, wuwa designs feel very uninspired. in genshin, most characters tend to have a motif throughout their design which helps to make it more cohesive: for example, klee has a clover motif, hu tao has plum blossoms, faruzan‘s is stained glass and so on. even if some characters don’t have a clear motif, they’re still based around a solid concept.
wuwa designs lack this imo and the way that so many designs changed from the betas kinda proves that they didn’t have a clear idea on what exactly they were going for with each character design. that’s why i think most of them seem generic and don’t stand out a lot from each other
a lot of people have already pointed out that the muted colors and being mostly black and white across the board fits with the world more due to the post-apocalyptic setting but the character’s outfit also doesnt look too out of place or outlandish overall
if you compare the clothing of playable characters in genshin to their npc there is a stark differences in design, their outfits feel over designed while the npc’s outfit is under designed like if you modded the npc to a different game with a similar fantasy setting of the same regional inspiration you really wouldnt be able to tell if they were native to the game or not but if you modded the playable characters instead they stick out like a sore thumb yet in wuwa outfits like what jiyan, mortife and sanhua wears wouldnt look off if given to npc outside of a few pieces like jiyan’s green outerwear for example or sanhua’s accessories, there are some outliers like changi and verina but wuwa’s outfit doesnt standout at a glance until you scrutinize it and rely on a few splash’s of colors or extra details to personalize it with the characters themselves
their outfit has an attention to detail that is both subtle yet still unique in contrast to genshin’s visually loud outfits
All I have to say is the characters fit the world that they belong in
Totally see your point here and I can’t argue with you when you look at the characters in isolation. It might just be a preference thing but I actually like it.
Parts of the game world are totally messed up have had the literal colour sucked out of them. So there’s an overall identity across both the world and characters that I really appreciate.
Learned a lot about the design philosophy from this. Thank you!
Please I'm glad someone is pointing this out. I geniunely can't stand people meatriding wuwa designs when they look so generic. Its fine to have a theme, but the lack of colored details or contrast is killing me. Scar was one of the only real uniqueness, and they nerfed him because of insecure little chinese boys. Unfortunate.
One of the only designs I like is danjin. Her little pendant makes her design pop and look more interesting. Theres actual contrast, and I can appreciate that
I feel the opposite, one thing that I disliked about Genshin is the characters are all wearing bright and colorful clothes, almost feels like a childish competition of who can stand out the most. I like the color palette in WuWa because it feels more mature and calm. It's rare to see a game with this many characters wearing mostly black, I love it.
With how Genshin's designs can be...I definitely understand that feeling. Sanhua in my opinion is rocking her outfit despite being in that color palette pool.
Personally I will never understand how colorful = childish to some people.
In my opinion, I like the color palette in WuWa. With the setting of the game, the designs to me really fit in with the aesthetic.
We all know this game is a competitor to Genshin, so this more "mature" style is a way WuWa can differentiate itself with Genshin's more "anime" characters. I do not read manga nor manhua, but I feel like that is a good comparison here. _"Normal"_ manga is much more stylistic than those _"mature looking"_ manhua videos I see on TikTok
+The current team I am running is Calcharo, Sanhua, and Baizhi. All these characters have that black/white/gold color scheme which I absolutely love. The least visually appealing character to me is Verina.
+ The muted red WuWa decided to add for their characters (Danjin, Chixia, Yinlin, Changli, Moretefi) and dark blues (Jiyan, Yuanwu, Yangyang) is super nice to me!
- These less poppy colors help balance the physically eye catching outfits the characters have.
+ the future team comp Jinhsi, Sanhua, and Baizhi would look divine
+ how dare you dislike Jianxin's design (understandable argument though)
The manga and anime comparison is an interesting one! I agree that the muted red and dark blues are a nice touch. Danjin I have a feeling is going to sneak her way into being one of my next built units once my main two teams are done.
Im sorry Jianxin lovers waaa!
we need a character with a purple pallet badly or a green one
yes! and orange :D
I enjoy wuwa character designs but yea, the muted color palette is takijg a toll on me xD. Thank god my main tema is Jiyan and Verina tho, i can see that beautiful green everyday
that 5 star healer's original outfit looked like a space suit... she looked like she was a space pilot.... its actually great that they pivot it and changed it to look like she is more in tune with nature because it would be off putting to see green thorns with a space suit outfit....
Just want to preface that I agree with most of your points in this video! I would love to see more long form content or multiple short videos from you analyzing character designs. Since Gacha games have such a huge roster of characters, it would be cool if you split up your videos by the character’s region or what version they were released in. That way you could spend more time talking in depth about each character.
Getting off topic, I was confused when I saw Kokomi’s design as well. In the Inazuma Archon Quest, her main role was as a leader & a military strategist, however in her story quest it is revealed that she is canonically never fighting on the front lines.
She is the Divine Priestess & with that title comes the responsibilities of handling issues within Watatsumi Island & her people. She only made an appearance during the battle between the Resistance & the Shogunate to boost moral, but she didn’t fight at all & stayed far from harm. For this reason does it make sense that she bears ceremonial garbs (like Yae Miko) rather than armor.
However, it is unclear to me if the role as a military strategist is in the job description of Divine Priestess or if Kokomi chose to take on that duty herself. Either way, I agree adding a bit of Kokomi’s connection to the military would be nice although she doesn’t fight.
Kuro being Kuro~ like their Red/White/Black combination like Punishing Gray Raven characters designs. it's pro for me though, since it's my preference.
I'm bias because i love black and white color palette, but i really like the designs, they can mix together if you try.
As an example my team is Lingyang, Sushua and Verina.
In my gameplay i see white (lingyang hair and clothing), black (sushua clothing), yellow/green (verina hair) and light blue for the ice.
In a vacuum they mix together, but on gameplay is different.
Using almost the same color palette can make someone focus on the In the differences of each character.
That's a good point! With a party of three you may not see this come into play often.
My main party is Rover, Encore, and Verina and there's plenty of balance in there too. Much respect for Lingyang! :D
I think those outfits just suit characters and their vibe, chixia is a little chaotic just like her design
Yeah her design looks like she dressed herself lol i appreciate that
I think its because they plan to release skins for the characters like they do in PGR.
Hopefully they release skins more frequently than a certain game.
so you have to pay money for characters to look good? i am not huge fan of that
about Kokomi (sorry, I might misspell some names, am not really good w english grammar): the first and formost - she is the Divine priestess of Watatsumi. she was not a general in any kind. this is just recent events that caused her to become one.
for Gorou I can agree.
Ayaka is wearing armor cuz Kamisato clan is the one who is behind the regulation and observance of various arts and events. including marshal arts. so its okay for the princess of this clan to wear some peace of armor
When it comes to balancing details of a character between the top and bottom, is a situation that would pertain to vtuber models. If it is bottom heavy, the model will look too simple because 99% of the time you only see the top half, but if you put detail on both parts, it can become overcrowded. Luckily it's a 3d character model so you can do either.
One important thing to note is that each character designs at least by my interpretation, doesn't focus on individuality but culture, clothing trends and profession, which makes not the characters individually unique, but communally unique (such as people from different factions, areas, etc).
We'll be getting more and more of the world unlocked, so it will be easier to differentiate between characters, also Kuro's previous game, PGR, their designs become more unique while still upholding the black/white aspect. It includes the enemies.
-Danjin main
"I'll be surprised if she's not related to scar in some way"
She might be right omg
6:43 Kinda unrelated to the main point of this video but Kokomi technically didn’t lead her people into war as she was mainly the strategist. Plus, that’s not even supposed to be her occupation since she is the divine priestess first and foremost, and for that job, her design, I think, does give off the vibe of one. Gorou however, I have nothing to defend him with, he also confuses me
Personally, i like the designs because they're easy on the eyes. They blend together so i can focus my attention on the enemy for doing perfect dodges and parries, this is especially true in Hologram 😭From a gameplay standpoint, vibrant and 'distracting' pallettes take your focus away from the action.
Baizhi
I don't like much Wuwa collor pallet too for the exact same reason. I think they did it to stand out from Genshin and to match the color of the world.
Okay, so my friends play wuwa and I dont. And having an art background means I can put side the genshin vs wuwa console war. But the art background also makes me not care for the characters because while they're all competent, there's nothing that makes them pop.
No problems with the more urban edgy world aesthetic. I don't mind them being desaturated palletes. But it is certainly a problem when so mamh look the same and don't seem to be a part of the military division.
The yin yang girl is a good example of black/white though. I totally agree she's too busy near her torso with the details. But the teal accents interwoven throughout her outfit and her yin/yang theme is well done.
The first shown girl that's similarly 50/50 on black/white is also a better example, but they should be like 2 of 4 total across a cast this small.
The ... gray haired general/ healer? Lady? With the hat. If you told me she was "female Rover" I'd totally believe you. Actual Rover looks like a terrible fan service bait pull. Why is she the MC? I like the idea of the classy ninja aesthetic, but she doesn't pull it off. The bow is so bad. The straps are weird. She's got skimpy outfit but the outfit is still more skimpy than the rest of the battle centric cast. Male Rover is simple but does his job well. The simplicity also works with beinf a military dog. I do not like female Rover.
Those straps were original a webbing to attach an armpit purse in the original design.
Armpit purse😂😂😂😂
I love wuthering waves designs. They look more mature imo
rover mc desperately need more fabric
she's fine.
Don't you hate on Chixia!! the asymetry makes it one of the best design imo, but I agree Female rover would've looked much better in male rover's outfit, literally the reason I chose male rover. Also I don't think the colour is that important, the outfits themselves are very samey, like, just count the percentage of female characters that aren't wearing a dress with their shoulders uncovered, nothing wrong with those but it shoudn't be all except like 2, there's so much more they could do with female character designs.
I cant. You broke my heart when you said you weren't a fan of the best looking MC gacha character of all time. Objectively more humans lover her design than they dislike it.
@@noxauranyx yesn't. 🙂↔️🙂↕️
She just ain't a degenerate like u guys
Jiyan is the only WuWa character that I remotely like. I like having a variety of different colors so that characters don't have a problem having the same color pallet
8:55 Omg thank you! I agree so much. He is the best character in Wuwa holy hell.
I agree. Color pallette wise its been very muted and in the entire plot line its only been actually Chixia, Encore and Verina that sort of gibe that vibrant vibe in the entire landscape of things...most of the map is also following this drab, muted look so there hasn't been any real location on the map that has stuck to me as memorable so far..
I dont mind the limited coloro for the outfit. But what i know from Kuro is that they are really good when it comes to mixing hair color for character. For example: Changli
I just wanna say welcome to the KuroGames
The developer who really love black and white, 80% of characters kurogames create in their previous game "Punishing Gray Raven" always have dominant white or black color 😅
Actually fits with the dev's name lol
What i don't like about the male rover is the "Kirito clone drip", can gacha devs stop with this? No, can the whole anime and anime adjacent franchises stop with this? Why does he have a freaking BOWL CUT?!! He looks BORING... i can't, i can't with the Kirito clones. SAO came out in what? 2010?!! IT'S TIME TO STOP!! What happened with the Yugi's of anime with crazy and unique designs? What did we do to deserve these Kirito looking asses bro?!!
Fr they all look the same! I genuinely dont understand people who prefer male mc options 😭 my friend has male mc for hsr and wuwa and like... they look the same and they're just the typical male otaku insert look
Now that zhezhi released and shes brightly colored what do you think??
Yeah I agree, it's a shame they went so much on black and white color palette, I wished a little more colors, or just less white/black lol
I hope we get to see some more color palette variety in future chara designs! As the roster grows it would help balance things out.
I personally really like the character designs and prefer them iver genshin.
The design fit with the setting they are in and also make the overall vibe more mature wich i always appreciate.
Genshin design is amazing aswell obviously but having a genshin color pallete to a lot of characters in wuwa would ruin the mood in my opinion. I guess it's just depense in the person, some really like colorful design and a diverse color pallete in a colorfull fantasy world.
While some preferr more down to eath design/color pallettes that feels more mature
I would also like to defend the monk gilr design(i forgot her name) since her whole thing is yin and yang
idk why people are disagreeing so much, I get this issue and almost no one talks about it. There is no problem is using muted colors, the problem is using the same color palette over such a huge percentage of characters. It would be fine if they used black + white + gold on 1 or 2 characters, but they used it on a lot of characters. Maybe they can try using different tones of black and white, and some other secondary color.
I'll reverse the question, why should characters have various color? There's no reason beside making them easier to distinguish.
There is a pattern in Wuthering Waves design. Characters that involve stealth use all black, like Yinlin and Sanhua; Soldier like Calcharo and Jiyan wear the black tightsuit; While academics like Baizhi and Mortefi wears white coat.
There's also accessories. All characters that related to government (Jinshi, Changli, Sanhua and Taoqi) wears something in their head that form loops.
So, Wuthering Waves just choose to ties their design to lore than color. That's a valid choice to make.
@@5_tokki problem is it's a gacha game, which means characters sell your game. When a lot of the characters use the same black/white/gold color palette, it is hard for them to stand out.
Characters being easier to distinguish is super important here. What's the uniqueness in Jianxing having black and white yin Yang design, when a lot of characters share the same black/white palette?
With the 2 new characters this patch, you can see them moving on to other color palettes which is a good thing. Otherwise, wuwa would have lost in the character design market
@@infernodragon456 Since when not colorful means won't sell? People really got conditioned so hard by Genshin. Remember, Wuthering Waves first huge success is Yinlin character with all black outfit.
I don't know which you mean by this patch, but the latest 4 characters released are pretty much white base especially Shorekeeper, yet she's the most hyped. There are more deciding factors for people to pull for characters than color.
@@5_tokki you forget one imp aspect for Yinlin sales: boobs window and dommy mommy. Same with Shorekeeper, if she is anything similar to Black Swan.
Color palette is one of the biggest factors when it comes to unique character identity. Though it's not the only factor, it still occupies a lot of visual weight.
If wuwa keeps releasing chars with white outfit, they will start facing the same issue.
@@infernodragon456 Yeah, like I said, there are more deciding factors than color. Are boob window and dommy mommy types of colors?
And yes, I never deny color adds identity. So we're back to my original question again, what else does it hold important?
I think one issue I have with alot the female designs is that they think being sexy=good design
unrelated; I love the wuwa videos using genshin ost bc the game has none to show lmao
I personally like their designs; it just bothers me that everyone has either black, white, red or pink hair in the exact same shades everytime.
LMAO I love genshins OST and I thought it would be funny.
You hit my thoughts exactly. Love the designs but some more variety would be nice!
I like techwear rather than grandma pants lol
I think the bland limited amount of colors is so they can sell the skins better later
low key, the fact that they blend together imo is what makes sense for the setting and world building. they're distinct enough for each other but similar enough to hint at their origins / loyalties (baizhi and mortefi's lab coats, Lingyang's liondancing pants matching his troop's, verina's significant difference due to her being a foreigner, etc)
funny how you said dial down the booba effects and literally every time your vtuber avatar talks your booba jiggles lol i like pretty much all the designs except like every gun user and gauntlet users designs are not memorable for me
I like the color palletes it makes then fit with the world around them and the other NPCs. Meanwhile Star Rail and Genshin theres these Hyper Rainbow colored super humans next to some NPCs with jeans and a t-shirt.
Let's appreciate the "Oh gosh would you look at the time" meme please T_T
7:20
When you hear Genshin's music right of a bat, in a video about a different game... you know what's the real problem for these people.
i agree with your opinion on the black/white/gold overuse, but i think the strongest usage of it is in the male rover. i really like his design!
my biggest problem though is i have trouble discerning some of the pc characters from npcs, though i think its more a fault of the 3d models than it is of the designs themselves. i'm sorry but lowkey thought mortefi was an npc until i pulled him in gacha, and yuanwu's 3d model isnt doing him many favors either
Thats completely fair, and I agree that male rover's design is well done! I almost wish I picked him in the selection screen.
Danjin is a blood mage sword user
Before her personality rework she was a bloodthirsty psycho justice gal
Now she's just a justice gal
If Black & White/Monochrome with splashes of color is not something you enjoy Kuro Games is really just not for you. It's the style they have stuck to for 4 years now, and I and many other Kuro fans of course, love it. They just scream Kuro designs to me and having a recognizable style definitely has its own advantages. There's always gonna be exceptions but I would expect about 80% of the outfits to be primarily white and/or black.
Interesting Insight
11:00 her design is a work of art
12:25 her design scream to her enemies "you are going to have your as kicked; you will lose"
Good video, your voice sounds shaky tho (I might be wrong), have some confident about yourself and also don't be afraid to share your thoughts with the world!
Yangyang's feathers glows blue when her forte bar is full.
1:05 no you dont understand, we NEED the physics
AGREEGE lol
Gooners lmao
Colors are not everything in a design. The forms are what makes my eyes bleed. Their pseudo-futuristic intent gone all wrong (Scar is the worst in this aspect).
Specially all those random pieces of cloth hanging everywhere. Chixia, for example, looks like she has a lab-coat on her shoulder but torn to pieces by a bear.
Sanhua is beautiful, tho. If it wasn't for that vinyl skirt and random straps hanging from it, she would be perfect.
I actually quite like the mute palette. Idk why but I think they're good to look at.
I think having a design motif is what makes wuwa designs so much better than other gacha games. Say Genshin or even HSR makes me feel like i'm playing fortnite Goku vs Lebron James vs Sonic and Knuckles shooting ak47s and shotguns and skateboarding on rockets. Every character feels so out of place and goofy. It's impossible to take anything seriously. Even just casual chats are the goofiest things ever, because the designs are so out of place from the world. In wuwa while it's obvious who the playable characters are, and Jiyan is pretty out of place (not as out of place as hoyoverse characters ofc), but like you said he at least feels like his role as a general, and everyone else seems normal-ish. And it helps that Jiyan's design is very cool on its own.
I'm super happy you liked male rover and yuanwu's designs. They're probably not going to the be the most popular cosplays, but I also think they're good designs that fit in the world
I'm shocked that a genshin artist who's art is incredibly novice-looking and riddled with fundamental errors is commenting on the character designs of wuwa lol
go sit back down kid.
lowkey i feel like encore's white hair tufts make her look a little bit like a sheep herself for some reason LOL and that's really cute to me, so i'm gonna have to disagree with that critique personally. good review otherwise.
The issue with WuWa designs for me is that the white/black and their mid-tones are just that. Pure grey, pure black, pure white and no undertones. Same goes for their actual "accent" colors. They're just a solid, saturated and non-interesting primary color for the most part, making it all seem pretty boring.
Which is why characters like Encore and Verina stand out more, they have subtle shade differences and not just fully saturated, pure red or yellow as their only actual colors. They also have slightly different shades and hues in their design, not just one that turns a little bit darker in some places but is still overall the same color.
WuWa has a severe color pallette issue when overall their designs are pretty solid.
lol the one winged angle , right .
After seeing how muted the world and characters of WuWa, i realised how bright and colourful Genshin and other open world and gacha games are. I persobally prefer WuWa but everyone has an opinion, we dont have to agree😁
yeah verina and encore are the only colorful units i feel like everyone else does seem to blend together with the black gray and white
Honestly I don’t focus on Role-play games, so I don’t really have any opinions about Wuthering wave’s characters
Taoqi gives me Charlotte Fire Emblem Fates vibes: big boobs and border guards who don't look like they're part of any military. Not that I don't like her! I think she's cute! Charlotte tho wears the literal definition of "bikini armor" (aka a bikini + some armor plates in non-vital areas)
I can definitely see the FE Fates vibes! Taoqi is cute (I also have a bias for pink charas haha).
I need to double check her profile in the game but from her animations, Taoqi comes off as this Lazy/Sleepy type character so her not dressing the part is probably cause it takes too much effort. That's my take away at least.
@@Kazuk1787 Same here! 😊😊
Taoqi is more narmaya than Charlotte
I could be wrong but isnt Charlotte from fire emblem more of a berserker (berserkers always wear no armor lol) type character rather than defender (wear more armor)? Either way none of it makes sense but I love all the designs regardless :D
Agree with most of what you said specifically about the Rovers, budget Kirito over over rated female rover anyway. Even though I like chalcharo design I wish they added more purple to him.
Sorry but female Rover and Jianxin have amazing designs. One of my favorites. Guess it depends on preferences, but saying its a bad design objectively is just a bad take.
The black & white is KURO *SIGNATURE COLOR*
This their esthetic, you have to know that Nier Automecha is their main inspiration....so keep looking for a rainbow.
That clock, yu gi reference is beautiful, yea gold really overused with black and white.
Verina's design may differ because she came from a different region.
That's what I was thinking! I wonder as the game progresses if we may see more designs like hers, but I'm hearing that this palette is a preference of Kuro Games so we shall see!
I personally really like the design. It's not a "bright" world and it won't be for a while so i think it's fitting.
I think a GENUINE PROBLEM in the design of these characters is pandering. It is not equally done. Everything feels done FROM or FOR the male gaze, especially the exposure of female designs and restriction of male designs. Just compare female vs male rover-we all know who looks more interesting. The most skin exposure you have on the males is Mortefi’s unbuttoned shirt and Jiyan’s freakin armpit. They took away Scar’s interesting jumpsuit (I agree the onigiri strip was a bit distracting even tho I liked it) but now he is stuff covered neck to toe with a stupid button up shirt and boring cargo pants-like all. the. other. Men 🙃.
I’m fine with sex-appeal as long as it done equally. I’m loving withering waves but it is not being fair in this regard. I think female/queer gaze matters just as much as the males and they’d probably make more money if they pandered equally.
The title is going to incur the wrath of the egg Sanhua has the coolest outfit
I feel like none or few
of the genshin characters have outfit that make sense
for their occupation it’s just fab service
Honestly I prefer wuwa’s designs so much more, (and I say this in the perspective of an artist) for the simple fact they aren’t overstimulating for the eyes, compared to other games and I’ll use genshin as an example, I don’t think they want the characters to stand out more than the others since the designs follow the fashion trends of Jinzhou , culture, as well as the utilities of their clothes.
And I honestly thought that these characters have less color variety than Genshin characters, but after analyzing, they actually have the same or even more variety, since Genshin normally doesn’t use different colors, they use one color with different tonalities as a way to stand out more, also, Genshin characters require very recognizable shaped characters since most of their models are the same, while wuwa has slightly different models for every character, which differences to every character. You can take dynamic as well, most of wuwa characters have triangle shaped or circled shaped clothing or proportions which has a huge impact in humans eyes.
So even if people think there’s no variety then idk maybe it’s personal preference, I like the monotone characters cuz it’s a apocalyptic setting (and I use glasses too so bright colors aren’t a friend of mine) 😭😭
Personally i really like the black and white being incorporated into a lot of the designes i do think that Baizhi and Jinxun look too similar unless its revealed that they are related, but i still like both of theur designes. For the most part, to me the black and white and a third colour work to make the characters feel like they are a part of a cohesive organization and the overall design help make these characters feep like actual people. For me genshin does have good designes but they are way too busy and way too colourful. This more muted desugne is a lot more pleasant to my eyes and reminds me of a lot of my favorite anime like Bleach, JJK, Akame ga kill and Fate stay night, whereas genshin reminds me more of Salor Moon, Madoka Magica, MHA and Konosuba.
Also i totaly agree for female rover. I see so many saying shes like the best famle mc in gatcha gaming but im just not seeing it
I like WuWa designs more. Its fitting the feel of the apocalyptic chaotic world.
How is their outfits fitting for a post-apocalyptic world??? The cheerful girl we meet at the start of the game has an outfit that is necessarily at least 30 minutes yo get ready to go... on this scenario, you might as well go naked than whatever she has
I don't agree on the Male Rover and Jianxin
Jianxin 100% needed that design due to her yin yang motif and the Male Rover has a simple yet cool design. Black is universally accepted as a cool color and sometimes, a man just needs some simple black clothes to look good
Besides that, I agree that there's too much of the black and white colors being used with a secondary minor color
It doesn't matters if the games are post apocalyptic or not. Color variety in your characters, even if it's the bare minimum, do matter, especially in a gacha game where you want your characters to sell. Nobody will want to pull for characters no matter how meta they are if their designs can't attract their attention first
Goku, Ichigo, Luffy, Cloud, Barret, Tanjiro, Adult Naruto, Kenshiro, Guts, Broly (Dragon Ball Super) all don't have rainbow bubbly colors like the Genshin characters but they still have their primary colors that are different and make them stand out from others
Having half of your roster looking the same in a gacha game is the last thing you wanna do
Moving forward, one of the biggest hurdles for Kuro to overcome is adding the bare minimum color varieties in their characters and it's not like they can't do it. We've seen what they can do with guys like Jiyan, Danjin, Verina, etc. I think Kuro might know this themselves and they might start making the characters stand out from each other later on down the line
disclaimer I never played the game, but from just visuals I think that WW's character design have quite some problem, expecially the color palette. Tooooooo much characters have large area of black, I know the world building is dark but making everything look black still....it makes the characters "feel" too similar by just visual. Second, most color palettes in WW makes me feel like there isn't a focus, I don't know how to explain this in short, I feel like the characters lack some primary attraction and isn't memorable, for me a good design should be like an apple between the leaves, but WW's give me the feeling of just a pile of leaves, they should “have something” that catch people's eyes in the first glance. Also as said in the video of the overly repeatability of color palette, these designs might look good independently, but when standing together they feel too similar. It's like the only color thay can think out of, excluding black white gold, are only red red, blue blue, and pink, the colors' variation isn't enough, your game just started and you already have four characters with red hair and black n white clothes.
Black IS the best balancing color to be use in designs, along with white, but WW's over using of large area of black annoys me. Also they don't use any contrasting colors to make things pop up (this might be a very personal opinion but I think the clash of well balanced contrasting colors are like sweet desserts, something like Navia (gold+blue) and Kuki (green+purple) from Genshin)
Okok I'm talking too much on colors, another problem I have with WW's design is the characters lack a "theme" for me, Encore have the best design in the game imo, her theme is sheep obviously, and a some don't have much problem, Verina's can be connected to nature, Lingyang is lion dance, Jianxin is YinYang, but then the other are just like "some sorta human" to me.
For now what I seen the only designs I think are good are the two lolis, maybe due to they are the only two with vibrant colors that makes them stand out the most lol.
(ps: these are all just my opinion, if you are into WW's designs it's nothing really wrong about it)
(edit: corrected some sentences' arrangement)
A vtuber model complaining about boob physics is peak irony.