Delusions of a $700M Copywriter

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  • Опубликовано: 21 ноя 2024

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  • @Coffeezilla
    @Coffeezilla  4 года назад +1174

    EDIT: The debate is NOT happening! Long story short, Stefan sent me an email saying he wanted to reflect more and didn't want to rush into a debate.
    How do I feel about this? In a nutshell, I totally get it. ;) I've done stupid things out of ego and paid dearly for being brash and going off half-cocked / half-prepared.
    So as much as I hate to disappoint you fine people, we'll have to raincheck with Stefan. No harm no foul.
    But I do STAND BY MY ORIGINAL POINT! If anyone is out there who wants to pretend that DR is just another industry like any other, or doesn't have MASSIVE problems. Email me. I think a huge amount of DR is ethically INDEFENSIBLE and if you're going to say otherwise, debate or GTFO.

    • @avocadolfhirsehiedler742
      @avocadolfhirsehiedler742 4 года назад +36

      Finally another debate. I thought all fake gurus are too scared to face off THE ☕🦖

    • @drek2298
      @drek2298 4 года назад +3

      Looking forward to it 😬

    • @erwinhackl8795
      @erwinhackl8795 4 года назад +3

      Please give us a good heads up I want to see this live

    • @Nessgui
      @Nessgui 4 года назад +11

      This guy has an online course about copywriting, the RMBC method, no idea what it's worth, but it's easy to find it for free and might give you some interesting insights about his methods.

    • @thewu-flu1656
      @thewu-flu1656 4 года назад +1

      Whats up MR. BRAZILIAN FUTURES 😂😂

  • @user-zq1lb3lx4m
    @user-zq1lb3lx4m 4 года назад +2447

    Stefan Gregori's product is real bro. I had stage 7 alzheimers and his medication made me forget i had it.

    • @Divertor
      @Divertor 4 года назад +113

      How did you remember that you forgot you had it😂?

    • @brucebaker810
      @brucebaker810 4 года назад +45

      @@Divertor Have you seen Memento?
      If not, here's a hint....
      tattoos

    • @swine13
      @swine13 4 года назад +12

      @@brucebaker810 is that the one with the top and we dont know if it stops spinning so we don't know if its all a dream?
      No, that's inception. Never mind.

    • @brucebaker810
      @brucebaker810 4 года назад +6

      @@swine13 It's koalas all the way down.

    • @audrey-zd5dm
      @audrey-zd5dm 4 года назад +3

      bbbabbahahhaahahahhahhahaahhaahahahahahahhahaahahhahhaahhahaahhaahahahhaahauauauauauauauaauuauuaauua

  • @tonysantos1778
    @tonysantos1778 4 года назад +516

    Longtime copywriter here, and yeah you nailed it. I've spent the last 20+ years turning away offers to write for sensational hype-filled junk products like the ones that behemoths like Agora thrive on. I've left a lot of money on the table doing so, but I can sleep at night. As I always say, a REAL copywriter is someone who can convey the TRUE value proposition of a legit product or service to prospects in a way that they can easily understand. Doing anything else is pure, unadulterated sleaze.

    • @meghaha8966
      @meghaha8966 3 года назад +24

      A bit late lol but good on you!!! It shouldn’t be (bc it should be common sense) but it’s admirable. Thanks on behalf of the rest of society haha

    • @stefanvanweele7269
      @stefanvanweele7269 2 года назад

      will u sell me magic pills too?
      tbh i dont trust any copywriter, making ads is still making ads..

    • @watsonwrote
      @watsonwrote 2 года назад +13

      I'd like to think that by leaving the shady money on the table, you opened the doors to better opportunities. I feel like associating with the kinds of businesses that scam people is likely to distance someone from more legitimate businesses and products. And as much money as scammers make, real products are certainly more of a healthy market

    • @jasminhajro13
      @jasminhajro13 Год назад

      hello mr. santos, how much do you charge to copywrite the description of a sales book ?

    • @Jennel8116
      @Jennel8116 2 месяца назад +1

      Love this!!

  • @florencegielen5640
    @florencegielen5640 4 года назад +626

    I’m a copy writer (or rather it’s a part of my job) and I NEVER felt like any Coffeezillas videos were about me or the work I do. The fact that this copy writer does SURE is telling.

    • @wisdom_magnet
      @wisdom_magnet 4 года назад +48

      I'm a copywriter and I feel the same way you feel Florence.There was a time I thought about these VSLs and wondered why they're allowed to talk about their products like that. It hits you as unethical immediately if you're a decent person. And they make me laugh too... the outrageous claims.

    • @florencegielen5640
      @florencegielen5640 4 года назад +46

      @@wisdom_magnet it’s ridiculous. I live in the EU. The claims we can make as marketers is pretty tightly regulated. And I wouldn’t have it any other way.

    • @wisdom_magnet
      @wisdom_magnet 4 года назад +23

      @@florencegielen5640 that's right. Exactly how it should be. Misleading the public is a crime in my country.

    • @florencegielen5640
      @florencegielen5640 4 года назад +19

      @@wisdom_magnet where is that? Trump would have a bad time there 😅😅😅

    • @wisdom_magnet
      @wisdom_magnet 4 года назад +27

      @@florencegielen5640 it's Nigeria. The government still misleads the public over here though. 😂

  • @triciaroy
    @triciaroy 3 года назад +712

    Hi! I was a copywriter for P&G and wrote copy for Swiffer. I wrote FB and Twitter ads. I’ll tell you exactly what I did when I was on-boarded: they gave me a series of documents about the marketing objectives that included the tone they were looking for. I was told to write about the mop with the quirky, funny tone of a famous celebrity. I took ads that had been written already and made them better (or grammatical) or I made up new ones. Then I sent them my work, and the team chose what they wanted to use. All the ads had to pass through the team and through legal - who would shut down anything that was remotely unethical. In fact, one time I wrote about using the swiffer as a dance partner as they cleaned, and legal shut it down because the ad suggested that people treat an inanimate object like a person. Huh? So, that is my long-winded retort to Georgi-Porgi.

    • @jenniferressmannwriter
      @jenniferressmannwriter 3 года назад +85

      Interesting...wonder how they'd feel about how people add eyes to the roomba? 💃😁

    • @robertpastorella
      @robertpastorella 3 года назад +5

      💯 this

    • @JacobHillSBD
      @JacobHillSBD 3 года назад +106

      WARNING: THE MOP IS NOT ALIVE

    • @supervegito8340
      @supervegito8340 2 года назад +35

      And now we have the dancing swiffer ad. Good job you got it past legal

    • @mac533
      @mac533 2 года назад +14

      If i had to guess, it's probably more about AI assistants like Alexa or Siri, where it could be dangerous if vulnerable people start seeing them as real people. The company probably blanket bans ads that portray any product as a person

  • @sanaatheminipanther6377
    @sanaatheminipanther6377 3 года назад +161

    Thank you Coffee for pointing out that UNETHICAL behavior is just as damaging as ILLEGAL behavior. I left one of my jobs that started preying on seniors, and I told them that it was unethical. But, they just started bashing me saying I didn't want to sell the product badly enough. I don't regret leaving, even if the world thinks ethics is stupid

    • @corradocampo
      @corradocampo Год назад +2

      Would you like a cookie?

    • @randomanon8408
      @randomanon8408 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@corradocampo you better have given him that cookie

  • @Coffeezilla
    @Coffeezilla  4 года назад +383

    What's worse?
    Swiffer Sweeper or Fraudulent Alzheimers Cure?
    Please help guys, I really can't tell the difference.

    • @mrwrong2815
      @mrwrong2815 4 года назад +62

      Swiffer Sweeper obviously, I spent every last penny I had on one of those things and the replacement heads just kept breaking. Now I'm homeless and tens of thousands of dollars in debt in loans to maintain the damn thing.

    • @thediplomasta5891
      @thediplomasta5891 4 года назад +9

      I would share my valuable opinion,
      but.....I betcha didn't Dough-naaate!
      🤣 Top ten, in the iTunes store, if you market it right! 🤣🤑

    • @seafoam6119
      @seafoam6119 4 года назад +9

      @@mrwrong2815 with Alzheimers you could forget that. Another plus!

    • @salvador36a
      @salvador36a 4 года назад

      What are you talking about Sifu? You wrote the same thing twice

    • @swine13
      @swine13 4 года назад +2

      @@mrwrong2815 you just have to keep investing in it. The swiffer sweeper will work, you just need to be dedicated to swiffing and sweeping it and the money. Will. Come.

  • @SpencerCornelia
    @SpencerCornelia 4 года назад +505

    Am I the only one who laughs at these sales videos? They are so pathetic and predatory. And even worse, the copywriters justify their behavior as "bringing value" but all they're doing is taking.

    • @mysigt_
      @mysigt_ 4 года назад +8

      Love your content

    • @CreedPodcast
      @CreedPodcast 4 года назад +2

      Exactly‼️

    • @cococolonel
      @cococolonel 4 года назад +4

      Spencer's here?! Its like the Spider Man doppelganger meme 😎

    • @AkibanaZero
      @AkibanaZero 4 года назад +9

      They are TERRIBLE. It's unbelievable how these practices are even allowed. A method that can reverse an incurable disease? These people should all be locked up.

    • @insiderperson18279
      @insiderperson18279 4 года назад +5

      Run your own channel, clout-chaser

  • @trixyrg929
    @trixyrg929 3 года назад +451

    Who else hates that 99% of the pre roll ads on this channel are get rich quick courses 😂

    • @mrbullmrbull
      @mrbullmrbull 3 года назад +8

      I have etoro

    • @jawhandavis6279
      @jawhandavis6279 3 года назад +8

      Crazy how it goes right 😂😂

    • @kristjanrom9429
      @kristjanrom9429 3 года назад +8

      Fr haha, Stephen making money of them multible times per video in a video about them.

    • @bengsxr1956
      @bengsxr1956 3 года назад +32

      @@kristjanrom9429 if someones dumb enough to click on one of those after clucking on a coffeezilla video they cant be saved

    • @kristjanrom9429
      @kristjanrom9429 3 года назад +4

      @@bengsxr1956 fr

  • @JagoKestis
    @JagoKestis 4 года назад +327

    I can’t get enough of Coffeezilla. I fully support his run for the next Mayor of RUclips

    • @thediplomasta5891
      @thediplomasta5891 4 года назад +16

      Mayor of RUclips....🤔
      That, is an interesting concept, Sam. I think you may be on to something, more than you realize.

    • @user-dc5kc4gl5p
      @user-dc5kc4gl5p 4 года назад

      he is awesome

    • @jonathansoko5368
      @jonathansoko5368 3 года назад

      Only if he stays in this lane. Anytime on the podcast where he starts commenting on politics of things in the world I roll my eyes at the bad takes

    • @Jennel8116
      @Jennel8116 2 месяца назад

      Loving his growth!!❤❤

  • @steveh4290
    @steveh4290 4 года назад +301

    $700mil copyrighter?! Brian Rose what's to know your location.

  • @nikhlede6438
    @nikhlede6438 4 года назад +35

    Don't ever stop doing what you're doing. I may not watch every single one of your videos, but just the fact that there are people out there such as yourself gives me hope for humanity in general.
    You sir, have my respect and I wish you all the best.

  • @FTZPLTC
    @FTZPLTC Год назад +33

    "...100% effective way that *could*..."
    Yeah, this guy's a genius.

  • @visionmovement
    @visionmovement 4 года назад +201

    This copywriter is clueless.
    Swifer saying “this is the easiest to use everything will be the cleanest ever” is perfectly acceptable puffery.
    Thats waaay different from saying “this will 100% cure dementia...”

    • @seafoam6119
      @seafoam6119 4 года назад +29

      Dirt and grime? BOOM! Gone!
      Dementia? BOOM! Gone!

    • @gurucartel3422
      @gurucartel3422 4 года назад +6

      @@seafoam6119 Stefan is not defending the memory healer product. It was when he was young and he's embarrassed by it. His comments were about the industry now and he's in a movement that is trying to be more ethical in DR copywriting.

    • @seafoam6119
      @seafoam6119 4 года назад +2

      @@gurucartel3422 i'm just makin a lil joke, nothin to get defensive about.

    • @gurucartel3422
      @gurucartel3422 4 года назад +1

      @@seafoam6119 Sorry, wrong thread! You are right my comment wasn't about anything you said... apologies

  • @tsdobbi
    @tsdobbi 4 года назад +97

    I love when people respond to a video without watching the entirety of the content. It's like reading the first few chapters of a book then writing a book report. Stefan's like "It was an hour, but I only watched 20 minutes".

    • @swine13
      @swine13 4 года назад +7

      I immediately disregard complaints and arguments if people admit they haven't read/watched the thing they're arguing about. If they can't be bothered to be completely present in a debate, and aren't willing to address all the arguments, then I dont see a point in treating their comments as significant.

    • @JohnThePA
      @JohnThePA 3 года назад +3

      Especially since I watched the full video and the first 20 minutes was just the warming up lol

  • @somepaul465
    @somepaul465 4 года назад +92

    Never trust a person that tries to sell you by how righteous they are. I'm telling your right now, it's a scam.
    - Richie Norton

  • @JimYaghi001
    @JimYaghi001 3 года назад +21

    As a Google ads expert, I worked with a lot of these guys for decades, and the industry is absolutely rotten. The only metric they celebrate is conversion rate. But the trouble is that conversion at any cost is what they end up playing as a game. Make the most fabulous claims and promise anything as long as you get the conversion. This doesn't fly well on Google and they can't stand the reduction in conversion when I force them to clean up.

  • @Jayydubbz761
    @Jayydubbz761 4 года назад +42

    Shoot.. you mean to tell me my grandmother's dementia and alzheimer's for the last five years could've been solved in four weeks? I cant believe all she had to do was cut out electronics and computers! So crazy considering she hasn't used computers in years. wow

    • @EmbraceTerror
      @EmbraceTerror 3 года назад +3

      Hmmmm. I bet it didn't work before electronics became a thing.

  • @Impacto92yt
    @Impacto92yt 4 года назад +60

    As somebody who recently got into copywriting this is quite disturbing. I've always believed that the essence of copy is to highlight good products and bring out their benefits to their target audience in a captivating and emotionally triggering way. But this... this is just scamming vulnerable people.
    For me, the issue is that there is no control over this. If you claim something about a product and then the product is proven to not do what it says it does, there should be serious consequences. If that somehow happens, this issue goes away instantly. You can no longer advertise a cure for cancer on somebody desperate unless you actually prove that you can cure cancer.
    The people that do this are simply unethical and scummy human beings that only care about money. Guys, even if you have the most money in the world, if you're a shitty person, you'll never be happy. Thankfully not all copywriters are like this, I just hope this doesn't get out of control and make the word 'copywriting' dirty.

    • @swine13
      @swine13 4 года назад +1

      Maybe you can help me out, cause I thought copywriting was like... you write up the documents that state that something is copyright.
      Obviously as I write the words out it occurs to me the spelling is different, so I probably look like an idiot.
      Can you explain to me what it is you do? What's the average day of a copywriter involve?

    • @pattogonon8156
      @pattogonon8156 4 года назад +1

      @@swine13 We write ads (FB IG Google ads, landing pages, emails, product pages, sales page, direct mail and more).
      Copyright, on the other hand, is about the protection of intellectual properties or so.

    • @CaptApril123
      @CaptApril123 4 года назад +2

      @@swine13 This was confusing me too.. turns out it's the same thing as calling the janitor a 'sanitation engineer'.. it just sounds better than 'someone who writes adverts'... same bullshit that has people calling sales people 'associates'.

  • @user-xb6dk4zl7l
    @user-xb6dk4zl7l 4 года назад +37

    What about licensed scammers in industries like real estate? They can literally ruin your life by tricking you into buying a house with major known issues and no one seems to address it.

    • @geetee2694
      @geetee2694 4 года назад +3

      A giood home inspector is worth their salt.

    • @greysoncpeltier
      @greysoncpeltier 4 года назад +11

      As someone with a real estate license and who has a family member who was scammed by an agent, it is a very serious problem. There are a lot of people who are seen as the most reputable people in the field but are hiding some kind of deceptive business practice. Licensing boards do take this stuff on if you complain and basically every brokerage has insurance, so if you sue, you can collect on the policy.

    • @sophiophile
      @sophiophile Год назад +2

      If you can prove an agent didn't act in your best interest, report them to the licensing board, and sue the brokerage. Cases like this are easy to win, and there is no shortage of agents who have a very strong sense of ethics.

  • @Super_Maskass
    @Super_Maskass 4 года назад +55

    I've worked in a huge copywriting company in Europe, publishing about health and financial freedom that said you could cure cancer, Alzheimer's, Parkinson, and even Aids sometime.. This whole industry is garbage AF.

  • @leab6109
    @leab6109 3 года назад +21

    Honestly, copywriting and advertising are in the same boat. Just like there is scammy false advertising, there is scammy misleading copywriting. The tough part to accept is that the scammy thing works. And you really have to value ethics over income to stick to being ethical in this industry and have a clear conscience. Companies aren’t a big help either, and they push for over-the-top copywriting, because it generates sales. I cannot count the times I had to research a product on my own in order to write a proper ethical copy without misleading customers, because the company was misleading ME. It’s quantity over quality for them. Understandable, but the thing that should be common sense by now is that trust builds a repeat customer base, scamming and misleading people can only get you so far.

  • @lolwutyoumad
    @lolwutyoumad 4 года назад +202

    I can clean my floor with a swifter, I can’t cure Alzheimer’s with magical berries from the Amazon

    • @mjj7901
      @mjj7901 4 года назад +2

      @C. L. Park 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @mysteryguitarrkidd
      @mysteryguitarrkidd 4 года назад +1

      @C. L. Park can you send the link I’m ready to be in debt

    • @cutdepiefails6596
      @cutdepiefails6596 4 года назад

      But you can prevent it. It's precisely here that lies the crux of the question.

    • @donlong7818
      @donlong7818 3 года назад +3

      @@cutdepiefails6596 lol that primary school education 🤣🤣can’t beat it eh lass 🤣🤣🤡🐐

    • @cutdepiefails6596
      @cutdepiefails6596 3 года назад

      @Tu sutiya hai tf? Why you mad? It's actually a thing, won't cure but it will prevent, his point was grabbing shit like this and stretch the truth.

  • @sirshep4915
    @sirshep4915 4 года назад +6

    Coffee, you're a hero and you know it. We're all with you and support you man. We can see how genuine you are and we all appreciate the work you do! Entertainment and justice... best mix.

  • @GooseDave
    @GooseDave 4 года назад +8

    With the work you put in and the important topics you cover, it always surprises me you don't have more subscribers and views - this is important stuff and would save a lot of misery if more people saw it. Great content. Cheers

  • @nirvanakun
    @nirvanakun 3 года назад +8

    I just stumbled onto your channel. As a copywriter myself, I really appreciate this message. As a new subscriber, I have a request: Can you make a follow-up video that breaks down some GOOD direct copy campaigns/letters? Perhaps you could break down why they're good and how they're different from some crappy, vile ad from hell.

  • @DeannaJacksonDJsDelectables
    @DeannaJacksonDJsDelectables 4 года назад +25

    "Most of them are doing it ethically!" LMFAO!! How do you scam people "ethically"?

    • @wargeek4577
      @wargeek4577 3 года назад +4

      Lots of brown envelopes and fine print

  • @johnrocker2943
    @johnrocker2943 4 года назад +8

    The best part of Coffeezilla videos are the scam/get-rich ads in front of his videos.

  • @jamesbarker5254
    @jamesbarker5254 3 года назад +3

    So its been 2 weeks since I discovered this channel and ive now watched every video on this channel which is one of the best on any platform.

  • @talhahshahid9191
    @talhahshahid9191 4 года назад +22

    "Through the DaRk underbelly of the MuLtI-biLLioN DolLaR CoRpOrAtE MeDiCinE UNIVERSE." Shit sounds like an avengers level threat

  • @mroctober3657
    @mroctober3657 4 года назад +24

    It would've been a bad pitch if he was selling the 12 gauge shotgun.

  • @ethanhopkinsmusic
    @ethanhopkinsmusic 4 года назад +23

    I bought a Swiffer cleaner. I believed the advertisement it would make my house clean. Now I have no job and my retirement savings is gone.

    • @HebrewHunter101
      @HebrewHunter101 Год назад +1

      But is your house clean?

    • @kuebby
      @kuebby 5 месяцев назад

      I think you might have used the Swiffer wrong.

  • @katlouise3483
    @katlouise3483 4 года назад +4

    Nope. Nope nope. This is a disgrace. I am so mad right now about the copy you showed. God damn. My father had advanced cognitive memory loss from MS. I wouldn’t wish this on anybody. He will be donating his brain amd spinal cord to medical research as per wishes he made years ago when he was medically and legally competent. Mum shared the forms with me today, so it’s a bit fresh. Sorry, this just hit me all kinds of ways and I am livid at this. Targeting ppl like this is just plain evil. Thank you for what you do coffeezilla.

  • @MattRoszak
    @MattRoszak 4 года назад +11

    Coffeezilla always reminds me that I'm in the wrong line of business, I should become a scammer.

  • @Xiroxys
    @Xiroxys 5 месяцев назад +2

    My mother has early onset alzheimers. She's on her last legs, and the idea that someone wants to take advantage of her (or anyone else) in literally the worst state she has ever been in boils me in a way mothing else does.

  • @BlissJungian
    @BlissJungian 3 года назад +4

    Thank you so much for this I hear my grandpa playing videos like this every day but he won't listen to me that they are scams. I've thought about sending him your videos but I think they might just go over his heads. It's so nice that you showed an example and discussed why it's scammy. I really hope he listens to this thank you again. (thank you for the confessions of a copywriter too I love all your videos)

  • @timthompson990
    @timthompson990 3 года назад

    Your channel should be prescribed to kids all over the world, exposing these tactics and preventing people getting sucked in , is so important. Keep up the awesome work, these ‘sales’ tactics are just down right dishonest

  • @palmspirit1833
    @palmspirit1833 4 года назад +18

    Saying that one can reverse advanced Alzheimer's is akin to telling someone you can give them a tea that will help regrow their limb.

  • @reid3031
    @reid3031 2 года назад +7

    The fact that the guy who wrote that Alzheimer's story is going to hell is the thing keeping me going today

  • @lord_voldemort44
    @lord_voldemort44 4 года назад +33

    almost vomited when u called swiffer "the evil broom company" lol

    • @brucebaker810
      @brucebaker810 4 года назад +8

      to clean up that upchuck, just grab your Swiffer(tm) Miracle Cleaner Upper (tm)
      Swish swish and some cgi...and the puke puddle is GONE!

  • @cdoht1755
    @cdoht1755 4 года назад +8

    This man is doing gods work, love these vids keep it up

  • @georgetravers9333
    @georgetravers9333 4 года назад +66

    Why is Coffeezilla sitting outside his office?

    • @NiftyKnot
      @NiftyKnot 4 года назад +11

      He says that he owns it but he's just renting it for 165,000 /mo, alongside those two lamborghinis

    • @HaulTrashGetCash
      @HaulTrashGetCash 4 года назад +9

      It’s a $10mil studio/set build out that hasn’t been completed yet..

    • @jammapcb
      @jammapcb 4 года назад +6

      because its a green screen. You can see it in his hair the green reflection! in other words its a fake backdrop. He should be outside with at least 6 hot babes and 3 lambo's. Far more realistic!

    • @caprimann87
      @caprimann87 4 года назад

      because he is in his home office

    • @alexandermendez9013
      @alexandermendez9013 3 года назад +2

      That’s his office it’s just that the lettering is meant to be read from the inside or else Coffeezilla will forget where he is

  • @sanhema7681
    @sanhema7681 4 года назад +8

    'They (direct response copywriters) are attracting customers who are looking for the (financial) magic pill, because they are selling magic pills.' So true! Continue to investigate the crimes of these charlatans, Coffeezilla. I really like your channel! :)

  • @lukasjocius6581
    @lukasjocius6581 4 года назад +13

    By the way, Coffee, this storyline that you are analyzing is very similar to the Sopranos one of the episodes. Nearly identical. Cannot recall which season or episode that was, but my oh my it sounds familiar to the episode when Tony got shot by one of the family bosses who had Alzheimer.
    Other than that, love what you do, keep it up!

    • @jakedrago7805
      @jakedrago7805 2 года назад +1

      FYI He got shot by his uncle Junior.

  • @Rab-km7my
    @Rab-km7my 4 года назад +2

    Bless this channel. Whatever coffeezilla said about direct response copywriting are exactly my thoughts when i started to learn this industry few years back. My gut feeling never felt good whenever i learn of the techniques used in writing a direct response copy.

  • @gunsepsi2852
    @gunsepsi2852 4 года назад +9

    Watched 2 ads at 30 seconds, just so coffeezilla gets that extra $$. My boiiii :)

  • @StefanGeorgi1
    @StefanGeorgi1 4 года назад +48

    Not gonna lie, I was definitely expecting this...

    • @Coffeezilla
      @Coffeezilla  4 года назад +63

      Well you were right! if you want to come on the show, you can DM me or email.
      We will probably completely disagree on everything, but I think it's important to have this conversation. No editing, no gimmicks. Just a live conversation.
      You know better than anyone the power copywriters are wielding with words. So let's hash it out.
      LMK.

    • @wackyadz06
      @wackyadz06 4 года назад +14

      @@Coffeezilla he's happy to write essays on FB and have his buddies slag off your viewers.
      Surely he's big enough to jump on...

    • @CLane-nb4vl
      @CLane-nb4vl 4 года назад +7

      I would love to see this convo take place.

    • @StefanGeorgi1
      @StefanGeorgi1 4 года назад +17

      @@Coffeezilla cool will do :)

    • @user-xb6dk4zl7l
      @user-xb6dk4zl7l 4 года назад +8

      @@StefanGeorgi1 how can you even defend yourself at this point? What discussion can really been had short of coffees research being completely wrong and in fact you are not tied to any of those scammy companies or copy? Maybe you should just accept that you are just some clown that sells fake miracle cures to peoples grandmas and be quiet.

  • @aethertoast4320
    @aethertoast4320 2 года назад +2

    That product that piece of crap promoted makes my blood boil. I lived with and helped to take care of my grandma as she slowly succumbed to Alzheimer's. It is painful and horrible so screw that person.

  • @erishinto4906
    @erishinto4906 3 года назад +7

    As someone who works with Alzheimer’s and dementia patients, that pisses me off. I have seen families, smart intelligent people, try and say that this essential oil or this product must be used on Grandma because it is said to heal them. It is heartbreaking to see them day after day try and “get them back to normal.” Their brains are literally dying. You cannot reverse this type of disease. The brain cells and synapses are no longer there.

    • @danieljohnston2379
      @danieljohnston2379 2 года назад

      You offered no consolation in your comment and are therefore contributing to the problem.
      People want Alzheimer's FIXED, dude. Thats it. They don't care how unrealistic it may be, they just want medicine to find a solution.
      I certainly hope one exists before I get it.

    • @raidenpz
      @raidenpz 2 года назад +11

      @@danieljohnston2379 On the contrary, it's your duty as a human being to be honest when it comes to such serious matters. Not pulling them back down to earth is what makes people buy magic pills.

  • @vrnhdt
    @vrnhdt 4 года назад +1

    Thanks for doing this Coffeezilla , been following your content for a while now and it's time to expose these guys, RUclips is teeming with these kinds of opportunists.
    I appreciate your efforts man!

  • @akosijason
    @akosijason 4 года назад +5

    Hatred, can make you envy. And envy produce confusion

  • @studiodark11
    @studiodark11 4 года назад +5

    So funny, but in Canada we have PAAB that has to verify all sorts of claims, and recertify them every year.
    Saw an ad in the US about beet juice curing colon cancer. On national tv. It's insane.

  • @alfredthecat2619
    @alfredthecat2619 4 года назад +47

    Not all copyrighters are bad? Unethical ones are bad. He obviously just skip around on your video.

  • @asterginete3812
    @asterginete3812 4 года назад +15

    Every time I hear “pull the trigger” I always remember that guy who loves donations.

  • @ericwilliams1989ew
    @ericwilliams1989ew 4 года назад +43

    Here in my garage

  • @2DRonaldo
    @2DRonaldo 3 года назад +1

    Seen adverts in similar style like this on RUclips, from Heart attack prevention, to secret ways to make women want you.

  • @Labergemusic
    @Labergemusic 4 года назад +2

    Man I really like how you focus on such a small specific segment of such a big topic. The Koncrete podcast was fun to watch too and really coloured your strategy here. I am reading your book recommendation (Amusing Ourselves to Death).

  • @187mrsmith
    @187mrsmith 4 года назад +3

    My guy coffe zilla growing quick
    I swear he only had a 120 K subs Like the beginning of this month maybe end of last month
    Keep grinding my guy

  • @oranjelicht
    @oranjelicht 4 года назад +2

    i think he is so happy you honored him so more people can hire him for his copywriting

  • @erissy3601
    @erissy3601 3 года назад

    I’m addicted to your videos at this point… after binge watching your videos , all my ads now are about finance products or get rich quick scams..

  • @SmokeyEdits
    @SmokeyEdits 3 года назад +2

    "It's just a few bad apples" isn't a retort. There's the rest of that saying that seems to get forgotten: "a few bad apples *spoils the barrel."*

  • @fenixcustomsoftware
    @fenixcustomsoftware 4 года назад +6

    How do you know most copywriters lie? You only know about the ones that lie because that's what you focus on.
    Most products you use on a regular basis (deodorant, food products, clothes, trips you take) had a copywriter behind writing the ad, the product description.
    So, NO, only a few copywriters lie IN GENERAL.

    • @timothy2696
      @timothy2696 3 года назад

      The best kind of writing is the type you don’t notice - Gary Halbert

    • @_VISION.
      @_VISION. 3 года назад +9

      Dude catch up. We're talking about a specific industry of copywriting (direct-response).

  • @paranormaltester2036
    @paranormaltester2036 3 года назад +1

    I like that you speak against scammers and You Tube gives you adds for scammers.

  • @petrovvoltsanya8870
    @petrovvoltsanya8870 4 года назад +3

    As long as their are scammers and fraudsters , you are as essential as hand soap for the obvious reasons . Thanks for the content

  • @haleyw5677
    @haleyw5677 Год назад +1

    both my grandparents have dementia and I couldn't even listen to that "memory healer" pitch. it made me feel physically sick

  • @sajindal1
    @sajindal1 4 года назад +1

    Wow you are too good and funny. Thank you Coffee for watching out for us!

  • @williss1192
    @williss1192 3 месяца назад +1

    All CoffeeZilla is saying the Copywriting is corrupted from the bottom and up. It doesn't mean there aren't good copywriters. His interviews made me realize how widespread this toxicity is. I was planning on buying 10 copywriting books foolishly but it made me realize that I just need a few including with marketing and psychology books. Also, the virus of Gurus on YT makes me very concerned. Majority are literally scams so you have to plan carefully about what you're consuming.

  • @kardonay
    @kardonay 4 года назад +1

    I love your content !!!! It's good to see someone calling these "big shots" on their bullshit. If only they would use their power for good. We need to get you up to 10 000 000 subscribers & write them off the face of the internet

  • @johnyepthomi892
    @johnyepthomi892 4 года назад +2

    Being legal doesn't necessarily make it ethical. Hence, there are many laws that get changed overtime and many yet to be implemented.
    They have become so comfortable using the loopholes , that now, they think they're being targeted for doing something legal. They've equated legality and ethics.

  • @zmk5374
    @zmk5374 3 года назад +3

    As a career copywriter who has worked for multiple ad agencies marketing global brands, I can tell you for a fact that DR is absolute trash and is indefensible. Everyone from the agency that pitches for such products, to the account executives handling those brands, the creatives designing anything for them, and the copywriters writing the crap that hooks people are just as horrible as the creators of those products. It's a hunger for money and in my book, it's unabated gluttony and absolutely morally reprehensible.
    Garbage.

    • @malvolio01
      @malvolio01 2 года назад

      LOL. Couldn’t hack it, eh?

  • @StefanGeorgi1
    @StefanGeorgi1 4 года назад +27

    A couple of quick thoughts on this (and I did watch the whole video this time). 1) Totally agree on Memory Healer. I've been open within the DR community about how I'm not proud of some of the copy I wrote earlier in my career. I can/did rationalize it a million different ways at the time, but in hindsight certainly cringe worthy to have written that kind of stuff. 2) I don't think the Agora/New Market Health stuff is particularly fair. Yes they are a very large player in DR, but it's also a straw man fallacy. Reason why being that I haven't written anything for Agora or New Market Health. Yes they did put some of their copywriters into our mastermind during the first year, but that's about it. The issue though is that this ignores a bunch of other big DR players who aren't Agora/New Market. VShred, G-Plans, and a bunch of others come to mind. You may not love their marketing, but they also are obsessive about their products, user experience, claims, etc. Anyways though - happy to come on and discuss :)

    • @Impacto92yt
      @Impacto92yt 4 года назад +9

      Wow, you mentioned V shred? The biggest scammy fitness organization there currently is? They are an absolute joke, openly lying to people who don't know anything about fitness. They are obsessed with taking people's money, that's what they are obsessed with. Most people simply don't know any better and they fall for their tricks.

    • @StefanGeorgi1
      @StefanGeorgi1 4 года назад +2

      @@Impacto92yt idk I'm in some of their facebook groups and have seen thousands of transformations from folks...

    • @astrogirl4490
      @astrogirl4490 4 года назад +5

      You namedrop Agora when marketing your events/courses. You can't hype them up when it works to your advantage and then turn around and say examples of their promos are straw men. They're the top dog in direct response copywriting and most people look up to them.

    • @YousefAHMusic
      @YousefAHMusic 4 года назад +3

      You're the type of copywriter, or should I say, saleswriter, who thinks a CTA is what makes people buy. Who thinks writing hyperbolic claims will get people to click. Who justifies predatory language with "it makes us money!" I've worked as a copywriter at a top 5 ad agency. I've worked at a multi-billion dollar company. I never wrote any of that kind of stuff that you think makes "good copywriting," and I've helped make my clients over 10M+ dollars. Like what Coffeezilla mentions in the video, look at the biggest advertisers in the US today. None of them write advertising like what you think is "good copy." None of them do what you teach.
      Here's an example. Apple's latest ad for the iPhone 12. Simple copy. Creative visuals. No CTA. No selly language. No extravagant claims. ruclips.net/video/65JrtwtTOdc/видео.html

    • @Mah-xd4gf
      @Mah-xd4gf 4 года назад +6

      @@StefanGeorgi1 VShred? Really? U claiming Vshred? Search for EVERYDAMNDAYFITNESS Take on Vshreds or Shredded Sports Science or Pure Bullfit challenge Vshreds and you will know why you are wrong about Vshreds

  • @asmitachatterjee5146
    @asmitachatterjee5146 4 года назад +8

    And here I'm making $700 writing copy each month that just sells normal everyday stuff 🙄

  • @MladenStojanovic
    @MladenStojanovic 4 года назад +41

    You're making two critical mistakes:
    1. You're putting too much weight on copywriters' shoulders. In 99% of the cases, the copywriter is not the originator of the product. The most common situation is that the product owner approaches you and says "hey, I have this product, write me a sales copy." Now, if you like the product and if the product is aligned with your belief and ethical system, you'll take it. If not, you decline. And some other copywriter will do it. If you do take a project, you, as a copywriter, do your research, try to find good hooks and angles, look for proof to support the claims, and make the pitch.
    2. You're judging the approach based on just a few examples. First of all, direct response is just an advertising approach where you measure and track results. And that approach can be sued to sell a whole bunch of products. The examples you use are just the ones that target the broadest audiences, and you have a feeling they're the only ones out there. But direct response was used by Joh Caples to sell piano lessons (the famous "They laughed when I sat at the piano" ad). It was used by David Ogilvy to sell a whole bunch of products, including British tourism and investing in Puerto Rico. Ted Nicholas used direct response to sell forms that people could use to form their LLC. Bob Bly uses direct response to sell industrial equipment. Jay Abraham used direct response to sell collectibles, gold to rich investors, etc. Joe Sugarman used DR to sell tech gadgets and even his private jet. Dan Kennedy used DR to sell local business products and services (restaurants, chiropractors, plastic surgeons, etc.). Claud Hopkins used DR principles to sell Schlitz beer, soaps, rice, canned beans... The list of examples goes on.
    Are there some unethical business people who use DR to take people's money? Yes.
    Are there good business people with great products that help people who use DR to reach more and people and sell to them? Yes.
    Are there copywriters who'll take any project that pays, without considering the nature of the product? Yes.
    Are there copywriters who'll reject a project, no matter the pay, if they don't think it's a good or honest product? YES.
    It all comes down to what side of the story you want to tell. :)
    (Which brings me to my other point... You, @coffeezilla, are a natural copywriter. ;) )

    • @KyleHoffmanhonestkyle
      @KyleHoffmanhonestkyle 4 года назад +3

      Great points! The only one I might challenge you on is Dan Kennedy. There's a video floating around of him teaching how to make yourself appear more successful than you are. Even if promoting an honest product, you're walking a tightrope with tactics like that.

    • @MladenStojanovic
      @MladenStojanovic 4 года назад +3

      @@KyleHoffmanhonestkyle Oh, Dan is a whole different story. You should hear his courses... He'll tell you what works, why it works, and how it works. But he'll say to you directly: "It's up to you if you're going to use it and how."
      His approach is kinda like Dr. House - "it is what it is, this what I think you should, but you're a big boy to decide whether or not you're gonna listen to me." :)

    • @93Alexchelsea
      @93Alexchelsea 4 года назад +6

      The best response I've seen so far!

    • @GM-wp3yy
      @GM-wp3yy 4 года назад +5

      This is a great comment. I support that he's calling out blatant scams, but him saying "not all DR copywriters are bad, just most of them" is not cool. He doesn't know enough about it to talk about it. btw.. are all Catholic priests sexual predators, or just most of them? I heard they're a big player in the religion world.

    • @realmcafee
      @realmcafee 4 года назад +1

      doesn't matter if it's 1/10

  • @doggonemess1
    @doggonemess1 2 года назад +10

    5:00 This story sounds like to "true" experiences that teenagers make up on reddit. Or maybe the incredibly inappropriate stories they tell on those Russian robo-voiced crafting videos.

    • @heijimikata7181
      @heijimikata7181 Год назад +1

      The opening sounds like the episode where a confused Corrado “Junior” Soprano shot his nephew Tony because he thought Tony was his long time adversary.

    • @moosestache4936
      @moosestache4936 Год назад +2

      @@heijimikata7181 it’s that damn Pu*** Malanga

  • @sltwtr806
    @sltwtr806 Год назад +1

    it sounds like every INVEST NOW OR YOU WILL BE LEFT BEHIND ad on youtube

    • @RichardWatt
      @RichardWatt 11 месяцев назад

      RUclips's ad policy is simple: did their cheque clear?
      If yes, then we'll run the ads.
      If no, then we'll ask them to reissue the cheque.

  • @Richard_Nickerson
    @Richard_Nickerson 4 года назад +2

    I both like and loathe that people use the "it's just a few bad apples" phrase to mean the exact opposite of its intent.
    The phrase is "a few bad apples spoil the bunch," people. Having "just a few bad apples" is a BAD thing.

  • @TheQueenRulesAll
    @TheQueenRulesAll 3 года назад +2

    The more I learn about advertising, I am not sure how many decisions we really make on our own. An Australian marketer said something like, we provide the justification for you to buy the product.

  • @Kenijamaru
    @Kenijamaru 4 года назад +2

    I should post this on the next brian rose video buuuuuut Coffezilla is the real free-speech defense man

  • @TrueLifeTheory
    @TrueLifeTheory 3 года назад +2

    Honest copywriter here... (technically I'm a content head now, but that's besides the point).
    Can't say this video shocked me. I was once approached by a cryogenic freezing company (or whatever they call it - they "freeze" fat cells, which somehow breaks them down??) to write copy for them. For $50 an hour.
    Not bad money for a rookie back then! So I was excited. I researched the product, and it was absolute bs. It worked for some, not for others. Upon further investigation, I realized those who followed their "recommemded diet" lost the weight. So... they were basically giving the diet (that worked) away for free, but with like $500-$2000 cryo sessions - which didn't work.
    I walked away. Simply couldn't write the copy they wanted.
    They shrugged and hired the next guy in line, who was only too happy to lie his ass off.
    So yeah... happy I transitioned into blog content and found a great company to work for full-time. They actually have a product I fully believe in. (So I still happily write DR for them)
    Stay skeptical people :)

  • @alexbarker975
    @alexbarker975 2 года назад +2

    If you're low enough to give someone suffering alzheimers false hope like that, then you are one of the very few people who deserve to get it. People like thos don't need to exist, especially if they refuse to see any wrongdoing on their own part.

  • @todortodorov1263
    @todortodorov1263 3 года назад +1

    11:12 The best analogy would be a car dealership actively seeking tractor buyers, telling them that a Lambo can do better job at ploughing the field as a tractor.

  • @oilcanbland
    @oilcanbland 4 года назад +1

    I like what you're doing. I'm all for making big bucks, but this crap has got to stop. Thanks for calling them out.

  • @jarred4005
    @jarred4005 4 года назад +2

    When you don’t listen or watch or read someone’s entire argument, you automatically lose that argument.

  • @martintolovski
    @martintolovski 4 года назад +3

    Stephen, I think that you would be an excellent copywriting professor. I really do, you have the right principles, and you're an advocate for originality and transparency.

  • @pilotgirl5953
    @pilotgirl5953 4 года назад

    Great vid.. One of the commercials was exactly what you are against LOL

  • @omidmoaddab
    @omidmoaddab 4 года назад

    You are one of the greatest people I have seen
    Thank you so much for all this hard work!!!

  • @Rubycon99
    @Rubycon99 4 месяца назад +1

    I wonder, did he totally gloss over the whole "I survived being shot in face with a 12 gauge" part so people were more likely to continue watching in hoping to finding how that was even possible?
    I have to be honest, other than the aspect of it being horribly unethical, writing the stories to those youtube scam ads sounds like a fun job.

  • @The_Monteiro
    @The_Monteiro 4 года назад +1

    This is disgusting. My great grandpa is a veteran and is experiencing dementia. This is definitely targeting the vulnerability of the people on so many levels.

  • @astrogirl4490
    @astrogirl4490 4 года назад +4

    Clearly you haven't seen the new "Owning a Swiffer Cures Cancer!" ads.

  • @TimidTortoise1988
    @TimidTortoise1988 3 года назад +1

    How the fuck do people sleep that are in any way involved in the selling of this shit!? This world is fucking depressing. How will things ever get better when there’s so many shitbags? Thanks for bringing light to all of these people and issues.

  • @priyazu4000
    @priyazu4000 4 года назад +5

    Ironically a dan lok ad appeared on this video saying how much he doesn’t care about Criticism against him. “He ironically says haters don’t hate me they hate themselves” lol 😂😂😂😂

  • @chimproshi6181
    @chimproshi6181 4 года назад

    Oohh Coffee with the new Office . . . . I Love the studio you got 💪

  • @AnymMusic
    @AnymMusic Год назад +2

    nothing like having a story start with "this story is 100% true". Because nothing says "I am trustworthy" than you explicitly stating you are

  • @MrCarlBackhausen
    @MrCarlBackhausen 2 года назад +2

    This is insanely illegal in Sweden.
    I can't imagine that people would be allowed to do shit like this. These people are psychos!

  • @stanger963
    @stanger963 4 года назад +1

    Coffeeeee you're on fire 🔥🔥

  • @nomad1517
    @nomad1517 4 года назад +1

    I love how he has the schaumberg of toyota as an example, Ive been there many times.

  • @GRVProductions
    @GRVProductions Год назад +9

    I'll tell you a true alzheimers story. One day my grandpa woke up without his pants on. Rather than arive at the conclusion that he simply misplaced them, he decided someone most have stolen them and promptly called the police. Who eventually showed up and probably had a good laugh. 😆

  • @jeremiah5988
    @jeremiah5988 9 месяцев назад

    the "dont want to make money part" and thinking money is evil is so true - as someone that is in this world. And heres the thing, if we speak out, even though there are more good guys than bad, we get painted in a bad light. Like we are the toxic ones. It's weird man.

  • @1.5Koreans0.5American
    @1.5Koreans0.5American 4 года назад +1

    Love your red shoulder thing btw

  • @strawberrylemonadelioness
    @strawberrylemonadelioness Год назад +1

    "Only watched the first 20 minutes" Damn, he made his arguments invalid in one sentence.