Welp she stole your bike and her fan loving it, while you the original rider (not mentioned dude with silver hair from other game) get trashed for being "ridiculous"
I really love that wuwa doesn't have a heavily defined meta, we're currently in 1.4 with Camellya being the newest 5* but we still have people using Calculator, Encore and for some reason, Lingyang
True. My main team is still Spectro Rover, Baizhi and Encore. It might not be the best team or even an efficient one but I can literally beat anything with it, heck, Baizhi has been my mvp on several occasions and kept me alive long enough to revive my other members. Once I even defeated Scar when I was all out of revives with only her. I learned to play them so well I go through the new event with them and win when I struggle with the temporary characters they give us to try out
You forgot to Mention how the 3D models from Wuthering Waves do not betray the 2D splash arts, if not better. Also how character ascensions are much easier.
@@someonesomewhere8658 a lot of people were like Roccia easy skip when they saw the drip marketing and now they saw the model and animations and they are like "must pull" for camellya 🤣 I don't know how they make the 3d models so good.
I envy you guys. I honestly wanna switch to Wuwa because they don't treat their MC like shyt. But too bad for me I'm stuck with genshin because Wuwa graphics turned out to be more demanding and my current device is not up for the task. This is a separate matter but it honestly still baffles me how I can play Skyrim, DS2, and AC Origins in stable 60-75 fps while these Anime style games can't give me that. Genshin gives me 45-60 depending on in-game location and Wuwa gives me 20ish.
Wuwa's Characters designs are on point. from Body proportion, Accessories (not overly crowded), Unique themes (they're not scared to pull a dragon in Basic Attacks), Emotions and fluid Movements like camellya. you can literally see the maturity of the designers. anyways there are some people that still prefer Genshin because at the end of the day "Design" is always Subjective.
What I like about WuWa's designs is that these characters don't look like they were born for their element or even gimmick. In Genshin you have characters who, supposedly, lived normal lives before getting their vision or even becoming the Archon...yet these characters are designed as if they were destined to have these roles/visions at birth. Furina/Mavuika being the biggest offenders. We even saw a picture of Mavuika as a child and you're telling me that she had all these unique "archon" features before getting a vision OR becoming an archon? Furina just HAPPENED to be born with eyes the colors of the alignment system in Fontaine? Seriously? It's like these designers create these designs as if they have always been like this for their entire lives...which is impossible. Even when a character would look like this in WuWa it can at the very least be explained away by them becoming a resonator. Those frequencies are bound to change something about a person...just look at Youhu's frostbitten hands.Those aren't just some gloves.
@@angelsoflolz So she kinda gets a pass...but it's still annoying it happens at all, though. Could you be any less subtle about it? At least other characters like Mualani and her "special eyes" don't get a pass at all. Fish shaped pupils AND also happens to magically get a hydro vision when she grew up? Not to mention also being a part of the water tribe that lives near water? I mean, what are the chances of that happening?
not a big fan of camellya she just looks like a child with her pigtails. and yeah i am one of those who prefer genshin's designs because wuwa is monochromatic.
@@SolaceSagathe QoL are massive bro 😂 a music player to use while doing anything and you can choose to play Mt firmament ost in huanglong or blackshores, I'm gonna be playing black shores ost all the time, that's just a sneak peak.
@@lordkaiser1404Nah we can never beat revenue genshin, cause different in fanbase (basicaly player🗿), if wuwa and genshin fanbase is similar then wuwa will beat genshin easily 😆
@@lexa6937 maybe but that's not actually the reason, yes this game will never reach genshin rev not because genshin is a much good game but because how generous WW to their players , that weapon guarantee banner alone can take their money but this game is not greedy ..
That's one of the most important factors that show how Kuro "cares" about its player base more than Hoyo does its own. They still limit the chances to challenge the weekly bosses for drops, but they give you a (more than) decent amount of materials to justify that weekly limit, all while keeping the boss material requirement still at one unit per skill level up to the maximum. I'm pretty sure that's not their intention, but Kuro shows how they value my time by doing this. In fact, the very quick enemy/material respawn rate is also similar to this. And that small detail in itself is one of the biggest reasons why I have zero hesitations putting money (and time) on Wuthering Waves.
@@notreallymyfaultMost would. That is pure rng hell trying to get the ones you need, and the Dream Solvents are rare to get, and you need two to convert one, but only of the same boss. It coild take well over a month to get what you need while WuWa it takes only 3 weeks. HSR only two weeks, and ZZZ a single day if you use the stamina to keep fighting them.
Wuwa doesn’t re-use animations so every character are unique. Genshin reuses plunging, charged attack, some autos, weapon/artifact screen. Basically wuwas characters just feels way more different from each other
Ive seen multiple videos comparing wuwa and hoyo gacha and even the people defending wuwa dont seem to know that wuwa has a higher chance of getting the 5 star in each individual pull. Its not just the lower soft pity but the rates are higher all throughout. Its 0.6% for each pull in genshin and 0.8 in wuwa which is a 33% increase and very significant.
there are few thing i would like to add more: - First is the event: Wuwa events give so much materials that we need for upgrade character, some event even give us premium materials box that we can pick whatever we want and of course weapon and weapon skin are in here too, depths of illusive realm give so much things like echo box, lot of shell credits and echo exp,... upgrade characters feel so easy in this game. - The echoes system: after watching leak echoes from Rinascita i realize that the enemies design is so freaking good, Kuro are improving there design, the number of echoes is extremely diverse, think about fighting, catching and use them abilities make the game really fun. - 3d models always better than 2d splash art so you will never feel like being scam.
I always put Rover on when I do main story quest and I’m so happy that Rover is a strong character. The continuation and flow of seeing Rover being strong on scene and in the actual combat lends to a more believable narrative.
The fact that I dont even have a specific team comp, literally running around with DPS built characters, despite not fitting for DPS (or so they say/supports) I enjoy YANGYANG the most, and she didnt not leave my team on my 2nd account
Totally. I know my obsession about Gathering Wives will lead to having "suboptimal" teams and rotations. It is fine. I prefer to play characters that I like watching and that feel better to play than a meta character that I won't be able to play optimally because I don't have the reflexes if a cat.
back when I used to find tiny glimpses of Natlan revealed in side story arcs, I always thought that place to be gritty and dark, full of battles and war-torn areas. Then they teased the first Natlan characters, who were furry, furry kids and more kids. totally threw me off, rappers, singers, skateboards, dancers and beach surfers (FFS) and the archon is now a biker with technopunk glasses.
One of the first glimpses of Natlan we got was from the bath-houses in Inazuma 😂 So many people thought "Nation of War" and imagined a dark, gritty story with lots of death, when there's plenty of evidence in the game that points both ways. Plus, we did kinda get the actual war in Act 4, and it set up some awesome stuff. I normally prefer man v man wars, but this was honestly p good. Surviving Lucem type vibes.
me too, i thought it was a dark place with celebrations being highly valued because you wouldn't know when you are going to die, i thought every foreigner who comes to natlan is challenged to a life-or-death tournament and thought the only way you could be a king/archon is by fighting archon for the gnosis basically kind of like a king of the hill typa game. man was i disappointed seeing as its just a copy paste of sumeru with some liyue colors.
Remember when natlan was set up to be a war torn barren wasteland ? I dont remember as well its as if it was never meant to be and was instead set up as a region where dragons and humans coexist , how natlan is a perfect vacation spot and how people there really like graffitti and Extreme sports . Its as if headcanons of genshin haters were never realised and thats why they rage so much
There is 1 thing that I REALLY LOVE about WuWa is that the Main character really feels like the main character in the story.... Yes there are a lot of people don't agree with this but you don't understand THIS GAME(WUWA) REALLY TREATS THE MC(ROVER) A MAIN CHARACTER and not just a Fking CAMERA!! "But I don't really like it because what about the other characters." BRUH... Really?? Companion quest... Jiyan? Yinlin? Cammelya? "But they glaze so much on the MC" If Jesus were to have a 2nd coming here on earth will you shoot him on site? Or will you welcome him and treat him right? Yes the story is not perfect but isn't that normal in Gacha because they update every Fking month?? So yeah... In Gacha story I actually Love wuthering waves for making Rover a TRULY main character of the game.
Rover is basically Jesus reincarnated and the lore implies that he makes resonators feel extra calm when Rover is around them, why wouldn't they want peace of mind ? XD
@@thewanderingartists I think they want the characters to be an asshole... I mean just imagine they feel a calming aura around Rover but they(players) want this reaction to said character to Rover: "WHY DAHECK DO I FEEL CALM AROUND YOU?!" *PULLS OUT A GUN AND SHOOTS THE ROVER*
Will never forgive Aether for not giving Furina a hug. Bro had one job and he fumbled it, i swear a simple hug would have made the entire quest exceptionally great.
@@EmanatorOfRemembrance if that happened there would be a nuclear drama, the shipping community in genshin are the lowest of the low of a toxic waste barrel 😱 I too would have loved Traveller hugging or at least petting her on the shoulder or head, she went through so much for 500 years !! She's the strongest ❤️
@@EmanatorOfRemembrance aether had 1 simple job and fumbled so hard... He sees what furina goes through but then proceeds to: "yeah anyway wanna do a theater though? To awake your trauma again??"
The last part is double edge sword though. Genshin having strong reaction carry your team mean you can use your favorite on-field character even if they are not great. Meanwhile for wuwa, once the powercrept happen, it almost impossible to make the old one work, or at least require huge effort
Man, Genshin supposed to be a casual game for us who come home late after work, but Hoyoverse just said nope, fuck you, here's 18 hours long Sumeru quest without skip story button (and the story is shit btw), I played Genshin from the first Fishcl event around 1.1 man, but after trying WW, I can not play Genhsin anymore, the gameplay is boring, the grinding is time gated (resin). I used to play Genshin with my friend during Covid but after it, we don't have time for that bs anymore...
and the daily in wuthering waves is MUCH FASTER THAN GENSHIN, with this patch that the tacet field can be done in x2 (120 waveplates), it's less than 2 minutes a day and this is very good for both casual players and tryhard players because daily only make the game boring
A skip button would make me hop back, but I don't get why hoyoshills get mad at the suggestion of a simple skip button? They take pride in reading all that text, cool have fun but getting mad at people for asking a skip button??? Bruh
@@osmano8498lmao no, you have to use resin it's not once click, you make condensed resin and your dailies are done but if you don't use your resin the same day you'll have to use it the next day or else there's no "easy dailies" While wuwa dailies be like pick 5 items from the world, cook 1 dish, eat one dish, craft one thing, use burst 3 times, use intro skill 3 times etc lol just using the waveplates is like being done with the dailies.
One of the things I really appreciate in WuWa is the shop which is somewhat consumer friendly. Specifically they feature the 4stars in the banner, so instead of pulling and relying on luck you can use your stockpiled resources to directly buy the character.
Its sad to see people talking shit and putting people down for playing a game they don't like. Both games have their pros and cons. All that matters is which of these games you want to play. People on both sides need to chill and stop being toxic to others for having different preferences.
I love that in WuWa, you can pre-farm echoes and most of the materials for upcoming characters. There are no new dungeons every few patches with new books to farm. The only thing you currently can't pre-farm are new area collectables (which you can buy from merchants and get in events or just gather) and new area boss mats/echoes (new boss echoes are still easy to farm too because it's free and always the same set and the same cost/piece). I imagine that in Rinascita, there will be new Echo sets. However, since they are located in the overworld (not in a dungeon), you'll be able to farm them before the 2.1+ characters are released.
Farming everything for a character takes around 2 patch cycles (free-to-play). It's so slow that I'm not even excited over new characters as all I'll get is another character waiting to get built. I've 4 characters at lv 90 still missing artifacts, that grind alone is going to take at least until feburary. I recently used 1k tuners would seeing a single crit/crtDMG piece despite using the most efficient method possible (destroying upwards of 70 echoes). It's hard to get excited over new characters when it takes so much grinding. Imagine how bad this is going to be in 2 years time when we've no incentive because we already have 3+ good teams. Better then genshin, sure, good, I don't think so. We are totally dependent on resource hand-outs to make meaningful progress.
@@wanderingwatcher3981 You're just not farming correctly then. It takes three weeks in both Genshin and WuWa, aka half a patch cycle. This is from my own experience building many characters in both games and also from the numbers with no stamina refills. Don't know what you're doing that makes it take three months. You can even have ok artifacts in about a week or two. It's just min/maxing that takes ages. And WuWa's echo system is so much easier too to get great builds. The only thing that could push one to three months is the weekly material grind in Genshin.
Genshin actually gates character uniqueness behind constellations, and a great example is kazuha, he should have 2 charges on his skill by default. Compare that to changli which she has only pure buffs from her sequences. Imagine if changli's s1 or s2 gave her the 2 skill charges
True like Xiao constellation 1 being 3 dashes, I got his constellation then just stopped playing all together, Honestly when I read my favorite character's constellation and see all the gatekeeping and less fun I can do I generally stopped seeing a point in trying to play the game, (when shorekeeper rerun comes imma buy her 2 wavebands)
03:57 nah, PGR runs on Unity and quite the old version and every *Frame* has facial expressions and eye movements, genshin devs are just lazy because if the sheep consume it like this, there's no point to improve it
pgr isnt open world like genshin impact so it can have "better" graphics and has more time to focus on these type of stuff genshin graphics arent even bad
1 of the things i like about wuwa’s character design is about how subtle they can be like the characters are immediately recognizable for sure but the clothing they wear dnt look all that different from the npcs either like jiyan without his long green ponytail wouldnt look too out of place among the rest of the midnight rangers or chixia without her red hair too some character will always be standouts like camellya for example and the shorekeeper but a lot of the character has outfits that with a few tweaks would blend right in with the npcs so it really looks like theyre a part of the world genshin’s character designs do have thier charm but they also stand out a bit too much, like throw sayu into naruto’s ninja setting and she wouldnt look out of place as a leaf shinobi ignoring the difference in art style or arle into jjk, she very much fits right in genshin’s over the top design gives them their identifiable flare but at the same time stick out like a sore thumb too like can you imagine some random male npc in mondstadt wearing even something like diluc, kaeya, jean or even amber’s outfits and not go unnoticed?
Great observation! And truly stand out characters look in place too, such as how Jinhsi is very strikingly all white, since she’s the literal Magistrate of Jinzhou.
Can confirm the Danjin part She's so good that some people in the community consider her a hidden 5 star (6 star, even, but I think that's a huge exaggeration already) And the reason she can solo Hologram bosses is simply because if you put her in a team, you actually *lose* out on DPS by swapping out to buff with intros and outros The trade off, of course, is that she's a berserker type of character, so she trades her actual HP to deal damage This means nearly every fight as Danjin is a no-hit challenge, so I definitely do not recommend her for open world exploration unless you have ultra instinct on 24/7
I no longer play GI and watch this video like I look at old texts from toxic dead people. I don’t miss them, I’m still a bit angry at them, and I’m relieved life is different now. Interesting points are raised in the video, regardless. Maybe I have changed so much that I can no longer vibe with GI’s recent characters. Perhaps I never had. I hope you’re well! Let’s enjoy Rinascita when it comes out. ❤
9:07 don't think of it as in (2 useless dupes). Think of it as a locked talent progression behind money (like the crown isn't good enough as a lock) IT'S WORSE
I don't even play Genshin Impact, but I quit Honkai Star Rail for Wuthering Waves for similar reasons from this video and the first one. Guaranteed weapon banner; no 75/25 bs. There's also a selectable standard weapon banner that is permanent and you can switch between which weapon you want anytime you wish. Also; free 5 star standard weapon when you reach account level 45. HSR does have free 5 star weapons from Simulated Universe, but they might not be enough in the future endgame. You don't need to level sub-stats, instead they have varying rolls (12 to 20 CDMG). I'm aware HSR is adding a system to level up the substats you want, but that still isn't enough to bring me back. I like WuWa's system better because if I get a double crit stat echo, then that's good enough for me since I don't have to worry about levels going into the wrong substats. HSR's also has varying rolls if you start with 3 substats or 2 substats; 3 substats having a better chance of bigger stat rolls but also more chance of leveling the wrong substat. With WuWA, whatever you roll is what you get, no need to worry about leveling the crit stats up. If you want better stat rolls then you better get lucky, but most of the time it's good enough for me. HSR endgame MoC "difficulty" each patch is literally just adding more hp to enemies, which makes older characters less viable for max star clears. I liked Blade, but then Jingliu phased him out in a couple months, and now Jingliu will eventually be phased out as well. The only way to keep the older characters viable would be to pull on future support characters or re-run banners but even then, 2 of their 6 copies is literally extra levels on skills. I guess super break can help the older characters in a way, but it's not really how they were originally intended to be used which disappoints me. In WuWa, you can pretty much use any character as long as they're built properly. There's plenty of videos of F2P max star clears. The only thing I don't like personally in WuWa is overworld farming for leveling materials (cores/rings), I know you can get them from simulation challenges and events but it's not sustainable enough relying on that so you have to do some overworld farming. I probably wouldn't have to farm too much if I only focused on a few characters, but I really want to use and build all of them (except for Lingyang & Encore) since each character's combat is unique and satisfying. Another annoying tid bit is enemies being immune to same element dmg, for some elements like aero can still dmg matching element mobs but other than that like they need to change it to reduced dmg rather than straight up no dmg. Last but not least, I have not nearly spent as much money on WuWa than I have on HSR. Partly due to how much freebies Kuro gave us, but in combination with a meta free endgame (for now), guaranteed weapon banner, and technically having to pull less for pity on limited character banners (WuWa; 80/160 vs HSR; 90/180).
Thanks for your input. I've been playing HSR and WuWa since their launch. For the last month, I have been struggling with motivation to play HSR because as a F2P, I feel so weak if I don't have the strong characters from the current path that makes all content easier. I saved at the beginning for Kafka because I liked her design a lot and then I focused mainly on DOT team. Then I had to save and was able to start a Break Team. That means I wasn't able to get Follow-Up Attack and Hypercarry.. The only break dps i have is Boothill. Failed to pull Rappa and Firefly, no Feixiao aswell so yea.. I'm pretty much useless at PF, last level or two of MoC and AS. Your comment made me realize how bad my account was if I don't follow in the best units, DoT never got love so yea.. I uninstalled the game now and I'm going to fully focus on WuWa
But hear me out KURO is known to make some NPC's playable, on PGR, who knows maybe that one macho handsome man from training ground be playable at some point Like bridget and teddy in pgr
www.youtube.com/@FrostyGachaLife/videos After watching all these videos, I can say x2 WuWa surpassed Genshin in many ways, the only thing Genshin does better for now , its COOP, but it's a feature Kuro is working on and going to polish soon. I have played Genshin for 3 years, I have completed all content till 5.1, all quests (world quets, story quests, hangouts), all lore, all activities, not a single chest left, no a single quest left. I have played attention to all details, animations, dialogs, and I can say being realistic and unbiased, Wuwa after 1.1 surpassed Genshin in dialogs and animations, facial expressions. I don't talk about combat because Genshin is not combat game, Wuwa powercreeps all character kits including the new 5.2. The only one might have a chance is Mavuika, but yet the facial features, weapon, idle and all animations will lack quality or that lively feature.
Actually Ororon and Chasca look amazing and they are such awesome characters. And Wuwa characters also look gorgeous. I play both Genshin and Wuwa and I love both of them 🎉
I hate that they did the crown BS in ZZZ too. They "kinda" did it in HSR but tracks of destiny as actually REALLY abundant in the game so it isn't a problem and you can have multiple characters maxed on all of there skills even on a true F2P account. The only thing I don't like is that WuWa did that with weekly boss materials. It's not TOO bad, but it's still annoying that you can only get a characters fortes to level 7, then you need to use a boss material for levels 8 to 10. There are so many characters that I want to build to try out but I'm completely time-gated due to not having enough weekly boss mats. This will actually get worse once 2.0 comes out because we will have to farm for at least 2 weeks of boss mats to max 1 character, and only after the patch is released, so pre-farming will be impossible aside from the weapon materials.
The weekly mats arent bad. You get 9 per week and only need 26, and you need to get the materials for skills, ascension, and weapon anyway which takes three weeks as it is. 3 weeks to completely max a character is actually great. Means you can do 2 per patch with some time left over.
I mean yea I get what you are saying and make sure to provide it on feedback but really most characters just want forte, liberation, skill some not even all 3 but forte/liberation This means that basic attack and intro can be left at level one or 6 As for other stuff status stat bonuses aren’t going to make/break your character and inherent skills range from important to not a huge deal Supports range from being a small part of team damage to some of them being medium so if they are small you can stop at 6 or sometimes even not level them at all like Sanhua/Yuanwu for example and healers can be left at 6 you shouldn’t be taking too much damage and where damage really matters well it ain’t going to matter how high you raise the character since holograms will 1-2 hit you for your entire health
I wud like to mention one specific thing - many character upgrades in Illusive Realms are literally tailor made for them & that completely changes that specific char. I was playing with Calcharo the other day & was in his RL form for the entirety of stages(memory zones) with getting that specific intro at intervals. That right there is an endgame content done well with it being both fun & difficult. However, I wud like to mention that both games have 1-2 5* char releases per patch. WuWa - 1.0 - 2, 1.1 - 2, 1.2 - 2, 1.3 - 1, 1.4 - 1 GI - 5.0 - 2, 5.1 - 1, 5.2 - 1 (hadn't played GI before that)
Stop comparing lmao. Both game is literally Chinese predatory gacha trash that’s a 5/10 at best compared to a good single player game. Give it a rest you guys.
I play genshin from Day 1, recently i saw in reels about camellya and was fascinated with her gameplay and started playing wuwa(i got her s2r1 within a week of playing), I will give you my honest feedback, wuwa characters are far better than genshin, gameplay depth mechanics are far more interesting than genshin, echo farming is so easy compared to genshin shit artefact system, the only thing i didnt like about wuwa is its fps, it has 120fps support but its full of stutters and framedrops to mid 40-50fps, of this many years of playing genshin on my PC i never faced such a terrible experience, my system is powerful enough to run wuwa or even many AAA titles with ease 100fps+ i7-12700H + 4050, this is the main reason of unreal engine being unreal engine, they should optimize it. apart from this issue i have no complaints on wuwa, the only issue is fps which is significant part of enjoying game.
Unfortunately since launch, some hardware had difficulties with optimization in the game. They have been improving a lot of system since then so here's to hope yours get better aswell. Have you check your windows Game Mode status? I recently turned it on to experiment and actually made my game a little less laggy in case it helps
UE is real tricky.... i have a far worse pc (rx6600, ryzen 5 3600) and i can run wuwa at smooth 60fps on highest graphics, while my brother who has a far better pc gets stutters
Yo, having played GI on launch I could say this situation reminds me of Inazuma (because its 2.0 for GI), for me its the make or break for GI at the time. Now WuWa is somewhat going through that too, this is it, this decides the direction the game is going for the future. I hope WuWa will make it. Competition is vital, innovation has to be the main point for these 2 games. Dynamic animations, real time cutscenes, and more.
That absolutly correct. Grinding in genshin make you feel like linkin park song "in the end" 😂. what I do instead just chilling in the world not doing gaming. What kind of game make you quit gaming because it won't matter ?. And then I realise cemetery is more crowded and vibrant then genshin world.
@@tapakvajra1939 this is high key gotta be the most lore accurate roast of Genshin ever. BUT IN THE ENDDDDD, MY ARTIFACTS ARE STILL SHITTTTT. I should make a parody of this song and make it about grinding in Genshin lmao 😆😆😆
The first time I spent money on Wuwa was out of pure intention to support Kuro. Never felt forced, and never felt cucked out of a banner because I ran out of Asterites... The game has been very good to me since release, I have at least 1 copy of all limited 5* characters released so far, 5 Limited 5 star weapons, 2 of the standard 5* weapons and 3 of the standard 5* characters. All this for $15.00 (3 months of Lunite Sub)
Characters don't need elemental reaction with each other but I think this game need to do something with its elements for example add a ice Boss with a strong armor and make it if you hit it with fire attack the fire remove that boss armor or things like that.
As someone who has started recently playing both games I've been having way more fun with Wuthering Waves than Genshin. Mostly I just have a lot more fun in Wuthering Waves than Genshin especially the combat and I like the characters better in design and gameplay
The thing is not we hate genshin or want it to EOS the only thing we asked for is the game to be better but the devs come out an literally spit in our faces that why WuWa for me now is way 100x better then genshin cause in just 6 month kuro did what hoyo won't in this entire 4 years which is caring about the game more then money even HSR a turn based game that Easley can be developed and it didn't cost them a lot plus it's revenue is high still there endgame is just a lie and the fact that HSR players say thet they play it mainly for story is enough evidence
We "as genshin haters" were once a prideful enjoyers of tayvat and genshin But the total greed and ignorance we got from the devs made many (and I'm one of them) wish for hoyo to just stop existing. Those games of hoyo are always designed to suck the life out of you with nothing in return
I'm commenting this in excitement. I quit Genshin in 2022 just when I was about to be AR 59 and since that, I refused to play any genshin-like or gacha games or whatever you call it. But I decided to play Wuthering Waves and it is exciting. When I first accidentally dodged in this game, I wow'ed because it even comes in slow motion that makes the pacing of the fight goes up and down rather than the flat pacing in Genshin. Characters designs are also better and not ‘bottlenecked’ for being too cool. The new 5 stars, Camellya, is one of the coolest characters I've seen. Her animations are so cool and the designers definitely cooked with this one without someone telling them “Nah, that's too cool. Uncool it”. Dying Light had taught me one thing. Open world game isn't defined by how big the map is, but how explorable it is. GTA V's map is bigger than Dying Light's map but DL's map always feel bigger to me because you can go pretty much anywhere. The same with WuWa, your characters can just climb over petty obstacles that a Genshin character would just give up on trying. I am not an anime fans and I am not a gacha fans and some part of me still hates gacha but WuWa developers know how to give Genshin a competition.
Another point to the character dupes part - genshin straight up locks qol/team comps behind constellations (wriothsley/neuvi/chiori c1's), which is just so pathetic, considering hoyo is literally one of the most successful companies, period. They're always money-first, and never think about the players (unless there's a chance they're gonna lose money by not acting). Just plain greedy
One of the things I hate about Genshin's constellations is that certain dolls don't become functional after getting one or more constellations, while in WuWa Sequence Nodes seem more like strengthening the character.
Genshin definitely lost the plot at Natlan. After the disappointment that is Mavuika the few things that keep me from deleting the game are my C6 R1 Arle, 400+ saved pulls and Snezhnaya (I must get C6 Zaritsa). When it comes to the game itself, the only real advantage Genahin has over WuWa is the open word exploration, though I hope that changes with Rinoscita or whatever the new region is called. Best of luck to Kuro games they totally deserve it
What you can do delete the game now and install it when 6.0 start.. cause for me I'm just interested in senzhnaya. I just hope it's not disappointing also
Talking about designs as a player, for the characters and their game play one of the best from their respective regions, I'd mention Wriothesly in 4.1 and Xilonen from 5.1.
Tbh i like both. I picked up wuwa becouse a friend showed me camellya, and i have to say it definetely is a great game, and it has a lot of deatures genshin wanted for years. But what i like about genshin is the gameplay. Ofc i like the gameplay in both games, but genshins gameplay is one of my favourite gameplay systems out of these 3d gacha games.
What I love about Wuthering Waves is that like all the characters are you getting a character? You don’t really have to be afraid of them being power creeped because I mean like obviously everyone has subjective opinion powerful but like you don’t really have to worry about that like you’re not getting a character and then like a next patch, you have to ditch it and wasted all your money like you’re getting good characters in your arm, gonna be worth it for a relatively long period of time and each team is different so you can’t this is my main wanna do something different every character is different in their own way synergy and Arsenal the game really doesn’t force you to pay money like there’s no really big pay like I’ve gotten most of the characters in Wuthering Waves except for like three that I missed because I had surgery, but that was it other than that if I hadn’t had surgery, I would’ve been able to get every single character in the game. I don’t have all the weapons, but I would’ve been able to get every single character so yeah I like the game that really cares about the player based and that have to make changes even if it’s a small train like the only thing that I still annoying with the Wuthering Waves is the team building thing like how you have five team format you can have so you don’t like your first team. Second team and stuff I wish there was more room to make more teams so not like we’re making more like still having the three characters in one team but more deployable team things like instead of five you had like 20 so yeah that’s what I wish they had and I loved
actually genshin is not a bad game, but mihoyo makes the game look bad especially in the eyes of veteran players, plus hoyoshill out there... mmm that's perfect
I totally agree with this statement. I've been playing Genshin for 3 years and I really like it. But after Wuwa was released and I've been playing since patch 1.0, I feel good development from patch to patch while Genshin is very minimal in that regard. Now I realize that Genshin is not a bad game, but it's developed by a bad company
I feel bad for the genshin character model, look at Yae Sakura compared to Yae Miko its night and day when compared the two and Hi3 is more older than Genshin yet the Valkyries in hi3 feel more alive than genshin.
@@NICSU667 sorry I can't comment on this because my HI3 progress is still low and the game is not my type. I also don't really pay attention to how the character designs are in Genshin or Wuwa. These games have their own uniqueness (To be honest, the theme brought by Wuwa has some similarities to DC Comics while Genshin is like Marvel. I prefer dark themes like DC Comics). But the point I left Genshin was because they didn't pay attention to QoL in the game properly, imagine how tiring it was when I farmed EoS artifacts for 3 months for just one character, while in Wuwa I only needed 2 weeks to get a good moonlight echos that could be paired with 2 different characters, etc....
@@revanbamboozles4971 I haven't touch Hi3 in years now but I did play the game since its release back in my highschool days. I do get your point behind genshin locked qol from gacha characters I'm just pointing out that they could do more improvement from their model design.
Tbh i'm not really have problem with genshin core gameplay, for me they tollerable since they already 4 years old to begin with, But usually i more pissed at how mihoyo handle that game, like from censorship, childish direction, lazily implement basic qol, gacha system, rng, and the community itself The only good news i feel from genshin probably only how they handled powercreep, because at least they better than hsr on this aspect (and probably because genshin use reaction based than element and role based like hsr)
Wuthering waves is just my kind of game, in terms of characters regardless of whether they're coming out or already in the game I'd have to say Zani. White hair red iris with black pupils is cool, her whole design is by far my favorite. And the open world is amazing, running around in wuwa is a blast.
13 videos from different people. If one is against you, that's not your problem, but if there are a lot more than one, you have to look back to yourself bruv.
I say another point you can say is that the character story is just so much better, usually in Genshin I've seen is npc talks to another npc, and it usually about a problem from the npc to the point that I tend to usually don't care about the character story anymore (if this wasn't the case then I don't really remember only remember Ayato's story being like this), but in WuWa, there's npcs, but they actually have reasons and importance in the story, with the best and closest one being Encore's story, with Ying (The npc in the Story) so many people loved her so much to the point that they refuse to call her a npc and only call her by her name. If stuff like that happens, you know they did a good job with the npc and the story all together.
oh, don't start about companions' stories. 6 months later I'm still catching "Vietnamese flashbacks" from the Jiyan's companion quest and the Encore's recent one...
I can't remember if you had it in part 1, but I like how we can grab new 4 stars in Wuwa from the shop as well. I had to skip multiple banners in Genshin because Chevreuse always appeared on banners I don't want to pull on. I would've love to grab her from the shop instead of risking getting C5 Raiden or another 5 star I don't care about, and even then it's still not guaranteed I'll get her if I pull. Funny how I got Youhu from standard, but even if I tried to pull for her and failed I could've grabbed her from the shop now anyway.
Bro loves beating on Genshin impact. As a Genshin player and fan myself I respectfully agree with many of ur points but definitely do not agree with others such as crowns which even when i dont play very often i have too many. P.S : I play wuwa as well and totally agree that its combat is better than genshin although I also love the reaction system.
I think the main issue is that people spend too much time/money to even consider switching games. I'm so burned out from the gacha daily routine that I didn't even feel like leveling my WuWa characters to endgame and just left after 1.1 story.
Kuro is very generous and passionate so I'm sure they will improve the characters and design to be wuwa level. Hell maybe Mei and Yae would have a more mature body like Changli and their gameplay would be top notch, male characters would become more muscular like in wuwa with visible abs and chest instead of fake line drawing of those parts and loli characters would also look mature character like Verina.
As of now 2.0, i can now play it on my 3 year old, Poco x3 pro SD 855, 30fps medium settings. Unlike the first time wuwa came out it was unoptimized and glitchy and laggy on my phone.
It's not that we want elemental reaction in the game, it's more of players want each elements to do something more then just diffrent color numbers and gate keepign certain elements from enemies with high resistance, we don't need some crazy elements reaction system like Genshin, I think Kuro should ass minor effects to each element like Fusion doing a little bit of burning, Glacio doing a little bit of freezing, Lightning do a little bit of zapping, Spectro doing something ljke extra toughness and Havoc perhaps doing more damage after enemies gets broken. I really think its a good idea to add a little of of unique elements effects for that more gameplay mechanics like this really can hype the combat even more while not disturbing the already existing combate in Wuwa.
In free to play friendliness section: Another one that seems not get mentioned enough is the primogems/astrites obtained from opening chests. In gi- 2,5,10,20 (occasionally 40) in that order of rarity. In wuwa- 5,10,20,40 in order of rarity. It seems small but accumulate through time, it will add up immensely. 11:06 i dont remember those tides looking like that, my last play is yesterday, is this a new update??? For me, the meta is what is the current bonus in ToA lmao. If the bonus is havoc bonus damage, havoc characters(camellya). If aero bonus damage, aero characters(jiyan) LOL.
I agree that wuwa is a good game but As a casual player who plays for story and world building i prefer genshin and music is just cherry on top i hope wuwa improve their story for exa genshin did a great job of depicting war and tensinon all over nation.
It is curious. Just yesterday I heard this long video talking about how the story in Genshin has gone down in quality from 2.1 or something like that. And just to match your "I play for the story", my favorite videogame generes are JRPG and VN.
@lesath7883 I think Inazuma (2.0 -2.3) story is rushed but (3.0) sumeru and (4.0)Fontaine is actually pretty good.can't say anything about natlan for now.
@@brightshadow4476fontaine is actually good minus still kinda blotted. Furina have an actual character (looking at u Ei) natlan 5.0 is kinda bad😅 5.1 trying to salvage that but to me it just ain't it.
@@raimeino bro, it would kill hoyo to stop following their library full of already made preset animations to put on characters and show more than tell.
At first i thought genshin is a game where it takes place in medieval times due to monstad, but why the hell are there dj in natlan, the nation of war.
average gacha player attention span and reading comprehension There are Ruin robots and Fatui soldiers with semi automatic rifle and blaster cannon resembling flamethrower since the beginning of the game. Genshin isn't medieval or renaissance, it's just a headcanon made by story skippers and people who have the attention span of a goldfish kek
@MuttMeriShart56 Then i wonder why didn't they share the technology to other nations, do they like to gatekeep it like how hoyo gatekeep the qol to natlan only?
It'd be nice if instead of elemental reactions they implement something similar to ZZZ's disorder mechanic so you're not limited to playing a specific team but you're still rewarded with extra damage just by better rotating your team during combat
That is called Quickswap. You get a healer and 2 DPS and swap between both of them so fast that they both are literally on-field, dishing damage out. Also, some crazy dude went out and played Danjin solo in ToA and got all the crests. You can't get more experimental than soloing the end-game content and still crushing it.
Everything about Wuwa is always "Better Genshin" or "Genshin is bad compared to Wuwa" or something like that, but that's the only thing EVERYONE says about Wuwa, The game is doomed to be a Better Genshin for the Developers and CC that sell the game like that. The game is decent but its not the best game ever, the game has potential to shine on it's own but is like the devs are trying so hard to make a "Better Genshin" and not a Better Game in general, Gifting 5 Stars or lots of rewards IS NOT how to make a game shine, that's a bribe. And before anybody says i'm a salty Genshin player, I don't even play the game anymore since 2021
What makes you think the devs are just making a "better genshin", when the entire theme and specific Genre of being combat focused don't even Match Genshin?
Genshin is a slow to fast and relies on elemental chain reaction of each attack while Wuwa is fast, parry, dodge mechanic, and now has ult chain. Both have elements but wuwa relies more on intro and outro skills even though they're both open world games they are very distinct on one another so I don't think wuwa is trying to be better genshin they just have some similarities but both don't match.
Of course wuwa was far from to be called best game, but for gacha genre especially the big one, wuwa is much better than the rest and have good direction too Their popularity basically could indirectly affect the upcoming big gacha in the future and people expectation as well
What is your proof that wuwa is not generally a better game? It's doesn't have to be genshin wuwa currently the only one i found that deliver best GAMING experience, emphasize gaming here throughout current gacha market. Again what do mean by wuwa is just "better genshin" and not better game? Tldr: giving free character aren't as weird but you only have being playing hoyo game that tell its rare.
Wuwa needs some more content that isn't just glaze, there's a lot to talk about but instead they choose to bash other games an complain about revenue charts
@@shikanokonokonokonokoshitantan the competition is good, but that doesn’t mean all the content that’s made on the game should be slander against other games
Good for now, apparently tencent owns 51% of the Kuro's stock now. And tencent don't have good histories with games (maybe some idk), but beware there could be powercreeps and more monetization contents in the future content. Even the notice said tencent will not interrupting the development of the game, still. Anyway, god bless Kuro.
a Kuro insider already debunked this, Tencent is just a shareholder. Kuro will still remain as an independent and Tencent won’t interfere with their current/future plans, strategy and developments so expect more marketing and high quality stuff in WuWa and PGR.
Not enough views again so you created part 2?... Man wuwa CC's are starving for clicks huh?.. or just the game really living rent free on their bald heads 😂😂😂😂
on the banner matter, seems like the next 2.0 patch gonna be having back to 2 characters per update with another 2 reruns so yeah, rip wallet if you trying to get both or 4 of them
You could just, idk, enjoy both? Or whatever game you prefer instead of fighting over which ones better. Just like any 2 games they both have their merits and demerits.
@@SolaceSaga But these 2 games that you compare, are not even in same bracket based on statistics? So is Wuthering waves "trully better" than Genshin? It started with 30 milion players (registered at launch) if not more. Game far better than Genshin, as your videos stating (btw you have the most views by a large margin on videos in wich you mention Genshin, weird). It lost more than half of these players. I mean, player retention is a thing. Why is there is no retention if the games is truly better? (Genshin playerbase still 60-65 mil players, even after wuwa "killed genshin" btw) So how about the downtrend that Wuthering waves went into? How about revenue going, obvs, as interest going down and the trends going down, revenue went HARD down aswell, if this is BY FAR better than Genshin? So not a solid statistic to backup your points. "Altough thats a lost cause for Genshin at this point". Yeah, except the fact thats not how it works. If the game, was indeed, better than Genshin, statistics, would purely show this, they would not show going down and down and down. Lets not talk about views and google trends where is a slaughter. At least you get views from these videos cause you mention Genshin impact, rest of your videos about Wuthering waves... not so much sadly.
@@eduardiuhas7880 another coping player talking about revenue LMFAO, whats the point on talking about that fake revenue every month when you ppl hoyobots keep sucking hoyos dck and they spit on u like its nothing, at this point GI is just money grab and no improvements because the devs are fcking lazy
@@Jiparo5612 interesting. I’ve never done that before. But I will say, when you get to lager levels that doesn’t matter as much. Every echo you get will be a gold echo
@@SolaceSaga when you low on level and resources or not yet unlocked the database for 100% echoes, thinking how to cheese these bosses at early level is fun. I do think that they should add landscape and mechanic like counter attack do % hp damage in one tower of TOA to make figuring out how to cheese at low level instead of dps check is a fun way to get community making strategy around it.
I agree with what you're saying. Most designs, especially Natlan, has been straight of jarring as of late. Wasn't Fontaine supposed to be the most technologically advanced nation? Why does Natlan have motorcycles and flying revolvers? What about this screams "A Nation of Warriors bred for war"? Hell, where is the cultural inspiration supposed to be? What does NES Gaemer have to do with a warrior culture? What does a DJ have to do with a warrior culture? What does a biker babe, surfer bro or western cowfolk have to do with a warrior culture, dammit!? The ONLY character that fits this design aesthetic is Iansan and maybe Kachina, because you have to mine ores to make weapons for war. It doesn't even feel like Natlan is from the same game, much less the same world.
Lot of fans say that Khanriah was the most advanced and Natlan is close to it so they have such things, but hoyo had to for "exploration impact" I went back in 5.2 and I started to explore and I was like hmmm it would be so easy if I had ororan and chasca, or else it is TEDIOUS to even unlock the teleport points. Each patch feels like the world was designed after the character exploration ability was decided. Mauvika's bike can fly, surf and climb walls too, I hope capitano shows up in a truck.
Facts💯 everything that you mentioned from part 1 to part 2 are spot on but for me the only reason I completely stop playing GI is because they don't have skip button. But to be honest I'll pull Mavuika (even though her skills are weird) because I really love Himeko from HI3.
I came here to check the comments section. I still have beef with someone because of my bike
@@lnfernoRider let me guess NTE
@@smashingguy336Hey I'm good with NTE but not with a CERTAIN PYRO character
The true pillar of the community arrived
Welp she stole your bike and her fan loving it, while you the original rider (not mentioned dude with silver hair from other game) get trashed for being "ridiculous"
@@lnfernoRider ok
I really love that wuwa doesn't have a heavily defined meta, we're currently in 1.4 with Camellya being the newest 5* but we still have people using Calculator, Encore and for some reason, Lingyang
Calculator ong😂
True. My main team is still Spectro Rover, Baizhi and Encore. It might not be the best team or even an efficient one but I can literally beat anything with it, heck, Baizhi has been my mvp on several occasions and kept me alive long enough to revive my other members. Once I even defeated Scar when I was all out of revives with only her.
I learned to play them so well I go through the new event with them and win when I struggle with the temporary characters they give us to try out
I just use havoc rover and camellya together since I find it fun, but I need to try and farm for zani.
And there were in the dark corner danjin users doing big dmg with 1% hp
Calculator 😭
You forgot to Mention how the 3D models from Wuthering Waves do not betray the 2D splash arts, if not better. Also how character ascensions are much easier.
wuwa models make genshin look cartoonish. They're so much better
@@someonesomewhere8658 a lot of people were like Roccia easy skip when they saw the drip marketing and now they saw the model and animations and they are like "must pull" for camellya 🤣 I don't know how they make the 3d models so good.
I envy you guys. I honestly wanna switch to Wuwa because they don't treat their MC like shyt.
But too bad for me I'm stuck with genshin because Wuwa graphics turned out to be more demanding and my current device is not up for the task.
This is a separate matter but it honestly still baffles me how I can play Skyrim, DS2, and AC Origins in stable 60-75 fps while these Anime style games can't give me that. Genshin gives me 45-60 depending on in-game location and Wuwa gives me 20ish.
Real af. Genshin in-game models suffer BADLY from giant head syndrom
😂😂@@tabkg5802
Wuwa's Characters designs are on point. from Body proportion, Accessories (not overly crowded), Unique themes (they're not scared to pull a dragon in Basic Attacks), Emotions and fluid Movements like camellya. you can literally see the maturity of the designers. anyways there are some people that still prefer Genshin because at the end of the day "Design" is always Subjective.
What I like about WuWa's designs is that these characters don't look like they were born for their element or even gimmick.
In Genshin you have characters who, supposedly, lived normal lives before getting their vision or even becoming the Archon...yet these characters are designed as if they were destined to have these roles/visions at birth. Furina/Mavuika being the biggest offenders.
We even saw a picture of Mavuika as a child and you're telling me that she had all these unique "archon" features before getting a vision OR becoming an archon? Furina just HAPPENED to be born with eyes the colors of the alignment system in Fontaine? Seriously?
It's like these designers create these designs as if they have always been like this for their entire lives...which is impossible.
Even when a character would look like this in WuWa it can at the very least be explained away by them becoming a resonator. Those frequencies are bound to change something about a person...just look at Youhu's frostbitten hands.Those aren't just some gloves.
@@Rpground To be fair, Furina wasn't born. She was created by Focalors to act.
@@angelsoflolz So she kinda gets a pass...but it's still annoying it happens at all, though. Could you be any less subtle about it?
At least other characters like Mualani and her "special eyes" don't get a pass at all.
Fish shaped pupils AND also happens to magically get a hydro vision when she grew up? Not to mention also being a part of the water tribe that lives near water? I mean, what are the chances of that happening?
Oh wow. This is new information to me. Since I drop genshin prior to Fontaine. @@Rpground
not a big fan of camellya she just looks like a child with her pigtails. and yeah i am one of those who prefer genshin's designs because wuwa is monochromatic.
With upcoming 2.0, we may have part 3 guys :v
@@danhtvn6334 I wouldn’t count on it… but never say never!! Haha
@@SolaceSagathe QoL are massive bro 😂 a music player to use while doing anything and you can choose to play Mt firmament ost in huanglong or blackshores, I'm gonna be playing black shores ost all the time, that's just a sneak peak.
@@thewanderingartists Is that true...Ohh my god... Kuro can't stop cooking... Holy Jesus....
@@thewanderingartists that ost is peak lol, i have it in my spotify playlist
@@GeshuLin_WW here's another, you can switch Rover's gender every 24 hour, kuro can't stop cooking !!
Man I can't wait for Wuwa's 1 year anniversary 🔥🔥🔥
@@dauntlessguts12_20 same I bet the rewards are gonna be amazing
Can’t wait for Genshin to bless us with a whole 30 primogems next anniversary truly the pinnacle of generosity 🗣️🔥🔥 (Wuwa could never)
I smell a freee limited 5* selector. 🤤
@@ben-taobeneton3945 Most likely tbh, considering it's the same day the standard 5* selector expires 🔥🔥
@@job-u6927 Sheesh...that's a good point 😏
WuWa ver 2.0 will close the debate , the gap will be huge ✌️
@@vstampde8066 I can’t wait for 2.0!!
Fingers crossed
are you talking about the revenue gap?
@@lordkaiser1404Nah we can never beat revenue genshin, cause different in fanbase (basicaly player🗿), if wuwa and genshin fanbase is similar then wuwa will beat genshin easily 😆
@@lexa6937 maybe but that's not actually the reason, yes this game will never reach genshin rev not because genshin is a much good game but because how generous WW to their players , that weapon guarantee banner alone can take their money but this game is not greedy ..
6:08 You forgot the most important one. The trauma inducing nightmarish weekly boss materials
That's one of the most important factors that show how Kuro "cares" about its player base more than Hoyo does its own. They still limit the chances to challenge the weekly bosses for drops, but they give you a (more than) decent amount of materials to justify that weekly limit, all while keeping the boss material requirement still at one unit per skill level up to the maximum. I'm pretty sure that's not their intention, but Kuro shows how they value my time by doing this. In fact, the very quick enemy/material respawn rate is also similar to this. And that small detail in itself is one of the biggest reasons why I have zero hesitations putting money (and time) on Wuthering Waves.
U got trauma from that? 😭
@@notreallymyfaultMost would. That is pure rng hell trying to get the ones you need, and the Dream Solvents are rare to get, and you need two to convert one, but only of the same boss. It coild take well over a month to get what you need while WuWa it takes only 3 weeks. HSR only two weeks, and ZZZ a single day if you use the stamina to keep fighting them.
@XenoWars i never heard of someone got trauma from farming weekly boss
@@notreallymyfault Well you do know its a figure of speech anyway, right?
Wuwa doesn’t re-use animations so every character are unique. Genshin reuses plunging, charged attack, some autos, weapon/artifact screen. Basically wuwas characters just feels way more different from each other
when multi million company saves money😂
Not entirely, run animations are reused. The lolis all use the same run animation.
The thing that killed my immersion of new characters in genshin is probably charged attack for spear character(doing Beyblade thrust).
Tartaglia not having a plunge attack in his melee stance is crazy.
Ikr, the attacking animations were all mostly reused based on the weapon type in Genshin plus the boring artifact grinding.
Ive seen multiple videos comparing wuwa and hoyo gacha and even the people defending wuwa dont seem to know that wuwa has a higher chance of getting the 5 star in each individual pull. Its not just the lower soft pity but the rates are higher all throughout. Its 0.6% for each pull in genshin and 0.8 in wuwa which is a 33% increase and very significant.
The soft pity seems to be 66 instead of 75 as well.
already got 2 camellyas, in like 20 pulls
@@angelsoflolzOf course it is. Theres 10 less for guaranteed
@@angelsoflolzsoft pity is 65
Soft pity on 69 its a W
Hoyoshills are angry now, imagine after The Game Awards night. If Kuro give us another 5star selector, you know what will happen right?
@@richtofenify obviously they’ll make less revenue and then of course it’ll be EOS soon
@@SolaceSaga😂😂😂
@@SolaceSagaexpectations: EoS, bankruptcy.
Reality: whales spending money again as thanks for the free stuff.
dont get me wrong.. i really want to kuro to win the awards but hoyo has a larger stupd community..... 🤣
I doubt GaWi will win TGA.
It's not famous enough.
there are few thing i would like to add more:
- First is the event: Wuwa events give so much materials that we need for upgrade character, some event even give us premium materials box that we can pick whatever we want and of course weapon and weapon skin are in here too, depths of illusive realm give so much things like echo box, lot of shell credits and echo exp,... upgrade characters feel so easy in this game.
- The echoes system: after watching leak echoes from Rinascita i realize that the enemies design is so freaking good, Kuro are improving there design, the number of echoes is extremely diverse, think about fighting, catching and use them abilities make the game really fun.
- 3d models always better than 2d splash art so you will never feel like being scam.
I have been only using the MC alone for everything and it just hits different
Yeah, the MC in Wuwa is kinda meta and I hope they stay that way
@@alvan3659yeah,
spectro : sub-dps time stop
Havoc : dps nuke
I always put Rover on when I do main story quest and I’m so happy that Rover is a strong character. The continuation and flow of seeing Rover being strong on scene and in the actual combat lends to a more believable narrative.
Honestly concerning meta I'd rather just use characters I like than teams that would make the game boring 😅
@@hessianqrow7977 exactly!! And in WuWa you can basically do that. Perhaps minus getting perfect scores on just the ToA every time.
The fact that I dont even have a specific team comp, literally running around with DPS built characters, despite not fitting for DPS (or so they say/supports)
I enjoy YANGYANG the most, and she didnt not leave my team on my 2nd account
Totally.
I know my obsession about Gathering Wives will lead to having "suboptimal" teams and rotations.
It is fine.
I prefer to play characters that I like watching and that feel better to play than a meta character that I won't be able to play optimally because I don't have the reflexes if a cat.
back when I used to find tiny glimpses of Natlan revealed in side story arcs, I always thought that place to be gritty and dark, full of battles and war-torn areas. Then they teased the first Natlan characters, who were furry, furry kids and more kids. totally threw me off, rappers, singers, skateboards, dancers and beach surfers (FFS) and the archon is now a biker with technopunk glasses.
One of the first glimpses of Natlan we got was from the bath-houses in Inazuma 😂
So many people thought "Nation of War" and imagined a dark, gritty story with lots of death, when there's plenty of evidence in the game that points both ways.
Plus, we did kinda get the actual war in Act 4, and it set up some awesome stuff. I normally prefer man v man wars, but this was honestly p good. Surviving Lucem type vibes.
me too, i thought it was a dark place with celebrations being highly valued because you wouldn't know when you are going to die, i thought every foreigner who comes to natlan is challenged to a life-or-death tournament and thought the only way you could be a king/archon is by fighting archon for the gnosis basically kind of like a king of the hill typa game. man was i disappointed seeing as its just a copy paste of sumeru with some liyue colors.
Remember when natlan was set up to be a war torn barren wasteland ? I dont remember as well its as if it was never meant to be and was instead set up as a region where dragons and humans coexist , how natlan is a perfect vacation spot and how people there really like graffitti and Extreme sports . Its as if headcanons of genshin haters were never realised and thats why they rage so much
@@anapple6912 buddy its just based of latin america and africa theres no copy and pasta here....
Hey hey! Appreciate being featured in the video man! :D Glad you finally got around to comparing character designs! WuWa's are peak!
@@Stixxy hey man part 2 had to be done I couldn’t leave you hanging like that 😝 they are indeed peak
@ of course, I expected nothing less!
@@SolaceSaga make a video like this every year too see have the games improved
There is 1 thing that I REALLY LOVE about WuWa is that the Main character really feels like the main character in the story.... Yes there are a lot of people don't agree with this but you don't understand THIS GAME(WUWA) REALLY TREATS THE MC(ROVER) A MAIN CHARACTER and not just a Fking CAMERA!!
"But I don't really like it because what about the other characters."
BRUH... Really?? Companion quest... Jiyan? Yinlin? Cammelya?
"But they glaze so much on the MC"
If Jesus were to have a 2nd coming here on earth will you shoot him on site? Or will you welcome him and treat him right?
Yes the story is not perfect but isn't that normal in Gacha because they update every Fking month??
So yeah... In Gacha story I actually Love wuthering waves for making Rover a TRULY main character of the game.
Rover is basically Jesus reincarnated and the lore implies that he makes resonators feel extra calm when Rover is around them, why wouldn't they want peace of mind ? XD
@@thewanderingartists I think they want the characters to be an asshole... I mean just imagine they feel a calming aura around Rover but they(players) want this reaction to said character to Rover: "WHY DAHECK DO I FEEL CALM AROUND YOU?!" *PULLS OUT A GUN AND SHOOTS THE ROVER*
Will never forgive Aether for not giving Furina a hug. Bro had one job and he fumbled it, i swear a simple hug would have made the entire quest exceptionally great.
@@EmanatorOfRemembrance if that happened there would be a nuclear drama, the shipping community in genshin are the lowest of the low of a toxic waste barrel 😱
I too would have loved Traveller hugging or at least petting her on the shoulder or head, she went through so much for 500 years !! She's the strongest ❤️
@@EmanatorOfRemembrance aether had 1 simple job and fumbled so hard... He sees what furina goes through but then proceeds to: "yeah anyway wanna do a theater though? To awake your trauma again??"
The last part is double edge sword though. Genshin having strong reaction carry your team mean you can use your favorite on-field character even if they are not great. Meanwhile for wuwa, once the powercrept happen, it almost impossible to make the old one work, or at least require huge effort
That's true. The future seems bleak if pgr is anything to go by. But I suppose they can buff them with leaps and try to keep them relevant.
Man, Genshin supposed to be a casual game for us who come home late after work, but Hoyoverse just said nope, fuck you, here's 18 hours long Sumeru quest without skip story button (and the story is shit btw), I played Genshin from the first Fishcl event around 1.1 man, but after trying WW, I can not play Genhsin anymore, the gameplay is boring, the grinding is time gated (resin). I used to play Genshin with my friend during Covid but after it, we don't have time for that bs anymore...
and the daily in wuthering waves is MUCH FASTER THAN GENSHIN, with this patch that the tacet field can be done in x2 (120 waveplates), it's less than 2 minutes a day and this is very good for both casual players and tryhard players because daily only make the game boring
A skip button would make me hop back, but I don't get why hoyoshills get mad at the suggestion of a simple skip button? They take pride in reading all that text, cool have fun but getting mad at people for asking a skip button??? Bruh
@@osmano8498lmao no, you have to use resin it's not once click, you make condensed resin and your dailies are done but if you don't use your resin the same day you'll have to use it the next day or else there's no "easy dailies"
While wuwa dailies be like pick 5 items from the world, cook 1 dish, eat one dish, craft one thing, use burst 3 times, use intro skill 3 times etc lol just using the waveplates is like being done with the dailies.
@@thewanderingartists genshin players 🥱
They dont even read, the amount of stupid takes on Ei makes me mald. Like read the dialog its literally there. @@thewanderingartists
One of the things I really appreciate in WuWa is the shop which is somewhat consumer friendly.
Specifically they feature the 4stars in the banner, so instead of pulling and relying on luck you can use your stockpiled resources to directly buy the character.
Yup I love that about the shop.
We can literally bought a NEW 4* character in the Shop. That’s so nice of them.
Its sad to see people talking shit and putting people down for playing a game they don't like.
Both games have their pros and cons.
All that matters is which of these games you want to play.
People on both sides need to chill and stop being toxic to others for having different preferences.
I love that in WuWa, you can pre-farm echoes and most of the materials for upcoming characters. There are no new dungeons every few patches with new books to farm.
The only thing you currently can't pre-farm are new area collectables (which you can buy from merchants and get in events or just gather) and new area boss mats/echoes (new boss echoes are still easy to farm too because it's free and always the same set and the same cost/piece).
I imagine that in Rinascita, there will be new Echo sets. However, since they are located in the overworld (not in a dungeon), you'll be able to farm them before the 2.1+ characters are released.
Yes, there will most definitely be new echoes, and I heard there's going to be a new set that focuses on skill dmg
Argeed. I saving the resin to 480 and when the new char need new boss mat. I can build them 90 in just 1 hours.
Data Bank also increasing to 24, but we have no idea what that even means yet
Farming everything for a character takes around 2 patch cycles (free-to-play). It's so slow that I'm not even excited over new characters as all I'll get is another character waiting to get built. I've 4 characters at lv 90 still missing artifacts, that grind alone is going to take at least until feburary. I recently used 1k tuners would seeing a single crit/crtDMG piece despite using the most efficient method possible (destroying upwards of 70 echoes). It's hard to get excited over new characters when it takes so much grinding. Imagine how bad this is going to be in 2 years time when we've no incentive because we already have 3+ good teams. Better then genshin, sure, good, I don't think so. We are totally dependent on resource hand-outs to make meaningful progress.
@@wanderingwatcher3981 You're just not farming correctly then. It takes three weeks in both Genshin and WuWa, aka half a patch cycle. This is from my own experience building many characters in both games and also from the numbers with no stamina refills. Don't know what you're doing that makes it take three months. You can even have ok artifacts in about a week or two. It's just min/maxing that takes ages. And WuWa's echo system is so much easier too to get great builds.
The only thing that could push one to three months is the weekly material grind in Genshin.
Genshin actually gates character uniqueness behind constellations, and a great example is kazuha, he should have 2 charges on his skill by default.
Compare that to changli which she has only pure buffs from her sequences. Imagine if changli's s1 or s2 gave her the 2 skill charges
True like Xiao constellation 1 being 3 dashes, I got his constellation then just stopped playing all together, Honestly when I read my favorite character's constellation and see all the gatekeeping and less fun I can do I generally stopped seeing a point in trying to play the game, (when shorekeeper rerun comes imma buy her 2 wavebands)
Tell me about it
03:57 nah, PGR runs on Unity and quite the old version and every *Frame* has facial expressions and eye movements, genshin devs are just lazy because if the sheep consume it like this, there's no point to improve it
I was about to comment this thank you
No because why I still gape at PGR characters after every battle. 😂
pgr isnt open world like genshin impact so it can have "better" graphics and has more time to focus on these type of stuff genshin graphics arent even bad
I wanna play genshin but they won't let me, they want me to listen 8hrs of yapping first
If you were not tired of yapping you can re-read it as text, GREAT WoL that nobody asked for 😂😂
@@thewanderingartistswhere is the skip button ? Wow another hoyo shill yapping
@@saritagupta6679 skip button in genshin exists in my dreams only😅
@@thewanderingartists and genshin is good in dreams only
@@saritagupta6679shhhh don't too loud he is maybe using DELUSION power to say that
wait till v2.0 of WuWa is out it will be "Fontaine WHO?" and the skin.....our money is worth the purchase👀👍👌
@@khevvillacruz1237 I absolutely can’t wait for skins. My wallet gonna be wrecked
If that image if Jinhsi's skin is real, I don't know what will I do to get it.
@lesath7883 it is real 👀
You are braindead if you think wuwa can even aproach story wise Fontaine.
1 of the things i like about wuwa’s character design is about how subtle they can be
like the characters are immediately recognizable for sure but the clothing they wear dnt look all that different from the npcs either like jiyan without his long green ponytail wouldnt look too out of place among the rest of the midnight rangers or chixia without her red hair too
some character will always be standouts like camellya for example and the shorekeeper but a lot of the character has outfits that with a few tweaks would blend right in with the npcs so it really looks like theyre a part of the world
genshin’s character designs do have thier charm but they also stand out a bit too much, like throw sayu into naruto’s ninja setting and she wouldnt look out of place as a leaf shinobi ignoring the difference in art style or arle into jjk, she very much fits right in
genshin’s over the top design gives them their identifiable flare but at the same time stick out like a sore thumb too like can you imagine some random male npc in mondstadt wearing even something like diluc, kaeya, jean or even amber’s outfits and not go unnoticed?
Great observation! And truly stand out characters look in place too, such as how Jinhsi is very strikingly all white, since she’s the literal Magistrate of Jinzhou.
Can confirm the Danjin part
She's so good that some people in the community consider her a hidden 5 star (6 star, even, but I think that's a huge exaggeration already)
And the reason she can solo Hologram bosses is simply because if you put her in a team, you actually *lose* out on DPS by swapping out to buff with intros and outros
The trade off, of course, is that she's a berserker type of character, so she trades her actual HP to deal damage
This means nearly every fight as Danjin is a no-hit challenge, so I definitely do not recommend her for open world exploration unless you have ultra instinct on 24/7
I no longer play GI and watch this video like I look at old texts from toxic dead people. I don’t miss them, I’m still a bit angry at them, and I’m relieved life is different now.
Interesting points are raised in the video, regardless. Maybe I have changed so much that I can no longer vibe with GI’s recent characters. Perhaps I never had.
I hope you’re well! Let’s enjoy Rinascita when it comes out. ❤
9:07 don't think of it as in (2 useless dupes). Think of it as a locked talent progression behind money (like the crown isn't good enough as a lock)
IT'S WORSE
I don't even play Genshin Impact, but I quit Honkai Star Rail for Wuthering Waves for similar reasons from this video and the first one.
Guaranteed weapon banner; no 75/25 bs. There's also a selectable standard weapon banner that is permanent and you can switch between which weapon you want anytime you wish. Also; free 5 star standard weapon when you reach account level 45. HSR does have free 5 star weapons from Simulated Universe, but they might not be enough in the future endgame.
You don't need to level sub-stats, instead they have varying rolls (12 to 20 CDMG). I'm aware HSR is adding a system to level up the substats you want, but that still isn't enough to bring me back. I like WuWa's system better because if I get a double crit stat echo, then that's good enough for me since I don't have to worry about levels going into the wrong substats. HSR's also has varying rolls if you start with 3 substats or 2 substats; 3 substats having a better chance of bigger stat rolls but also more chance of leveling the wrong substat. With WuWA, whatever you roll is what you get, no need to worry about leveling the crit stats up. If you want better stat rolls then you better get lucky, but most of the time it's good enough for me.
HSR endgame MoC "difficulty" each patch is literally just adding more hp to enemies, which makes older characters less viable for max star clears. I liked Blade, but then Jingliu phased him out in a couple months, and now Jingliu will eventually be phased out as well. The only way to keep the older characters viable would be to pull on future support characters or re-run banners but even then, 2 of their 6 copies is literally extra levels on skills. I guess super break can help the older characters in a way, but it's not really how they were originally intended to be used which disappoints me. In WuWa, you can pretty much use any character as long as they're built properly. There's plenty of videos of F2P max star clears.
The only thing I don't like personally in WuWa is overworld farming for leveling materials (cores/rings), I know you can get them from simulation challenges and events but it's not sustainable enough relying on that so you have to do some overworld farming. I probably wouldn't have to farm too much if I only focused on a few characters, but I really want to use and build all of them (except for Lingyang & Encore) since each character's combat is unique and satisfying. Another annoying tid bit is enemies being immune to same element dmg, for some elements like aero can still dmg matching element mobs but other than that like they need to change it to reduced dmg rather than straight up no dmg.
Last but not least, I have not nearly spent as much money on WuWa than I have on HSR. Partly due to how much freebies Kuro gave us, but in combination with a meta free endgame (for now), guaranteed weapon banner, and technically having to pull less for pity on limited character banners (WuWa; 80/160 vs HSR; 90/180).
Thanks for your input. I've been playing HSR and WuWa since their launch. For the last month, I have been struggling with motivation to play HSR because as a F2P, I feel so weak if I don't have the strong characters from the current path that makes all content easier. I saved at the beginning for Kafka because I liked her design a lot and then I focused mainly on DOT team. Then I had to save and was able to start a Break Team. That means I wasn't able to get Follow-Up Attack and Hypercarry.. The only break dps i have is Boothill. Failed to pull Rappa and Firefly, no Feixiao aswell so yea.. I'm pretty much useless at PF, last level or two of MoC and AS.
Your comment made me realize how bad my account was if I don't follow in the best units, DoT never got love so yea.. I uninstalled the game now and I'm going to fully focus on WuWa
I love it!! great video!!!
When I saw Rinascitas NPC, i had initial thought that they are new genshin characters but bruuhhhhh its NOT
Yes its leak
But hear me out KURO is known to make some NPC's playable, on PGR, who knows maybe that one macho handsome man from training ground be playable at some point
Like bridget and teddy in pgr
@@Eseree We have to start, flooding them with "Xinyi playable when?"
@@ObviousHUN don't forget Yhan our man ! And that dude from Zhezhi trailer
@@ObviousHUN I need that beautiful granny frrr man!!
@@thewanderingartists or that guy that stands near the warehouse just outside Jinzhou...wears a jacket and has punk like hair
6 months ago I would have said your crazy.... But here we are. I love Genshin too.
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After watching all these videos, I can say x2 WuWa surpassed Genshin in many ways, the only thing Genshin does better for now , its COOP, but it's a feature Kuro is working on and going to polish soon.
I have played Genshin for 3 years, I have completed all content till 5.1, all quests (world quets, story quests, hangouts), all lore, all activities, not a single chest left, no a single quest left. I have played attention to all details, animations, dialogs, and I can say being realistic and unbiased, Wuwa after 1.1 surpassed Genshin in dialogs and animations, facial expressions. I don't talk about combat because Genshin is not combat game, Wuwa powercreeps all character kits including the new 5.2. The only one might have a chance is Mavuika, but yet the facial features, weapon, idle and all animations will lack quality or that lively feature.
Not all people can be please , we have different preference just play and enjoy the game you want and spend responsibly 👍
spend responsibly challenge: impossible
@SolaceSaga 🤣
Actually Ororon and Chasca look amazing and they are such awesome characters. And Wuwa characters also look gorgeous. I play both Genshin and Wuwa and I love both of them 🎉
I hate that they did the crown BS in ZZZ too. They "kinda" did it in HSR but tracks of destiny as actually REALLY abundant in the game so it isn't a problem and you can have multiple characters maxed on all of there skills even on a true F2P account. The only thing I don't like is that WuWa did that with weekly boss materials. It's not TOO bad, but it's still annoying that you can only get a characters fortes to level 7, then you need to use a boss material for levels 8 to 10. There are so many characters that I want to build to try out but I'm completely time-gated due to not having enough weekly boss mats. This will actually get worse once 2.0 comes out because we will have to farm for at least 2 weeks of boss mats to max 1 character, and only after the patch is released, so pre-farming will be impossible aside from the weapon materials.
No, skill tree don't need weekly boss mats up to lv 6. This is why my healer all stuck at lv 6 skill.
The weekly mats arent bad. You get 9 per week and only need 26, and you need to get the materials for skills, ascension, and weapon anyway which takes three weeks as it is. 3 weeks to completely max a character is actually great. Means you can do 2 per patch with some time left over.
Most people recommend building character up to lvl 8, not lvl 10(I did this with every single character I built)
@@violet9530 They dont really say that these days, especially for charactrrs doing EM builds
I mean yea I get what you are saying and make sure to provide it on feedback but really most characters just want forte, liberation, skill some not even all 3 but forte/liberation
This means that basic attack and intro can be left at level one or 6
As for other stuff status stat bonuses aren’t going to make/break your character and inherent skills range from important to not a huge deal
Supports range from being a small part of team damage to some of them being medium so if they are small you can stop at 6 or sometimes even not level them at all like Sanhua/Yuanwu for example and healers can be left at 6 you shouldn’t be taking too much damage and where damage really matters well it ain’t going to matter how high you raise the character since holograms will 1-2 hit you for your entire health
For anyone that want to know how friendly wuwa is
I have every character except calcharo and zeshi in a free to play account.
@@alexanderflores-MazterDestiny it’s so easy to get 5 star characters fr
btw, genshin recently just added Crowns to the shop, they cost 50 starglitter (? the rare one). pretty steep price
Pay up !👋🏻😂 How many pulls are needed for 50 star glitter??
I wud like to mention one specific thing - many character upgrades in Illusive Realms are literally tailor made for them & that completely changes that specific char. I was playing with Calcharo the other day & was in his RL form for the entirety of stages(memory zones) with getting that specific intro at intervals.
That right there is an endgame content done well with it being both fun & difficult.
However, I wud like to mention that both games have 1-2 5* char releases per patch.
WuWa - 1.0 - 2, 1.1 - 2, 1.2 - 2, 1.3 - 1, 1.4 - 1
GI - 5.0 - 2, 5.1 - 1, 5.2 - 1 (hadn't played GI before that)
I love the Illusive Realm, they did such a good job with it. It lets you play every character in a deeper and more fulfilling way
True I clear overdrive mode without fusion if there was reaction i wouldn't able to that and as f2p I cleared all content
Genshin's recent character designs looked like AI generated.
@@AndreiJoji I’m sad about Mavuika tbh. I loved Furina so much lol
I really hate the natlan design and mechanics. Will probably stop genshin till ice country
That's why I didn't pull a single Natlan character yet. But yeah I'll get Mavuika for sure.
Stop comparing lmao. Both game is literally Chinese predatory gacha trash that’s a 5/10 at best compared to a good single player game. Give it a rest you guys.
@ no
I play genshin from Day 1, recently i saw in reels about camellya and was fascinated with her gameplay and started playing wuwa(i got her s2r1 within a week of playing), I will give you my honest feedback, wuwa characters are far better than genshin, gameplay depth mechanics are far more interesting than genshin, echo farming is so easy compared to genshin shit artefact system, the only thing i didnt like about wuwa is its fps, it has 120fps support but its full of stutters and framedrops to mid 40-50fps, of this many years of playing genshin on my PC i never faced such a terrible experience, my system is powerful enough to run wuwa or even many AAA titles with ease 100fps+ i7-12700H + 4050, this is the main reason of unreal engine being unreal engine, they should optimize it. apart from this issue i have no complaints on wuwa, the only issue is fps which is significant part of enjoying game.
The unreal engine lag is also my only complaint in WuWa. Other than that, WuWa is so much better than Genshin in all aspects.
Unfortunately since launch, some hardware had difficulties with optimization in the game. They have been improving a lot of system since then so here's to hope yours get better aswell. Have you check your windows Game Mode status? I recently turned it on to experiment and actually made my game a little less laggy in case it helps
It's coming on Playstation on January 2nd so hopefully you can play there 🙏
UE is real tricky.... i have a far worse pc (rx6600, ryzen 5 3600) and i can run wuwa at smooth 60fps on highest graphics, while my brother who has a far better pc gets stutters
Yo, having played GI on launch I could say this situation reminds me of Inazuma (because its 2.0 for GI), for me its the make or break for GI at the time. Now WuWa is somewhat going through that too, this is it, this decides the direction the game is going for the future. I hope WuWa will make it. Competition is vital, innovation has to be the main point for these 2 games. Dynamic animations, real time cutscenes, and more.
That absolutly correct. Grinding in genshin make you feel like linkin park song "in the end" 😂. what I do instead just chilling in the world not doing gaming. What kind of game make you quit gaming because it won't matter ?. And then I realise cemetery is more crowded and vibrant then genshin world.
@@tapakvajra1939 this is high key gotta be the most lore accurate roast of Genshin ever. BUT IN THE ENDDDDD, MY ARTIFACTS ARE STILL SHITTTTT.
I should make a parody of this song and make it about grinding in Genshin lmao 😆😆😆
The first time I spent money on Wuwa was out of pure intention to support Kuro. Never felt forced, and never felt cucked out of a banner because I ran out of Asterites... The game has been very good to me since release, I have at least 1 copy of all limited 5* characters released so far, 5 Limited 5 star weapons, 2 of the standard 5* weapons and 3 of the standard 5* characters. All this for $15.00 (3 months of Lunite Sub)
GREAT VIDEO AGAIN. PART 3 WHEN xdd
@@kydro thanks bro!! I don’t think I’m gonna do a part 3 hahaha. There’s not much more to compare!
@@SolaceSaga after 2.0
The character being new 1 per patch is true for now
I hope they stick to that trend
Characters don't need elemental reaction with each other but I think this game need to do something with its elements for example add a ice Boss with a strong armor and make it if you hit it with fire attack the fire remove that boss armor or things like that.
@@pooyayaddasht2419 That I 100% agree with
That would be interesting.
Having to deal with the armor with one element and then have the core being vulnerable to another would be a great idea.
i think they will be adding debuffs from different elements, not elemental reactions.
As someone who has started recently playing both games I've been having way more fun with Wuthering Waves than Genshin. Mostly I just have a lot more fun in Wuthering Waves than Genshin especially the combat and I like the characters better in design and gameplay
The thing is not we hate genshin or want it to EOS the only thing we asked for is the game to be better but the devs come out an literally spit in our faces that why WuWa for me now is way 100x better then genshin cause in just 6 month kuro did what hoyo won't in this entire 4 years which is caring about the game more then money even HSR a turn based game that Easley can be developed and it didn't cost them a lot plus it's revenue is high still there endgame is just a lie and the fact that HSR players say thet they play it mainly for story is enough evidence
We "as genshin haters" were once a prideful enjoyers of tayvat and genshin
But the total greed and ignorance we got from the devs made many (and I'm one of them) wish for hoyo to just stop existing.
Those games of hoyo are always designed to suck the life out of you with nothing in return
Lmao now you all are hating hsr too 😂😂
I'm commenting this in excitement. I quit Genshin in 2022 just when I was about to be AR 59 and since that, I refused to play any genshin-like or gacha games or whatever you call it. But I decided to play Wuthering Waves and it is exciting.
When I first accidentally dodged in this game, I wow'ed because it even comes in slow motion that makes the pacing of the fight goes up and down rather than the flat pacing in Genshin.
Characters designs are also better and not ‘bottlenecked’ for being too cool. The new 5 stars, Camellya, is one of the coolest characters I've seen. Her animations are so cool and the designers definitely cooked with this one without someone telling them “Nah, that's too cool. Uncool it”.
Dying Light had taught me one thing. Open world game isn't defined by how big the map is, but how explorable it is. GTA V's map is bigger than Dying Light's map but DL's map always feel bigger to me because you can go pretty much anywhere. The same with WuWa, your characters can just climb over petty obstacles that a Genshin character would just give up on trying.
I am not an anime fans and I am not a gacha fans and some part of me still hates gacha but WuWa developers know how to give Genshin a competition.
Another point to the character dupes part - genshin straight up locks qol/team comps behind constellations (wriothsley/neuvi/chiori c1's), which is just so pathetic, considering hoyo is literally one of the most successful companies, period. They're always money-first, and never think about the players (unless there's a chance they're gonna lose money by not acting). Just plain greedy
One of the things I hate about Genshin's constellations is that certain dolls don't become functional after getting one or more constellations, while in WuWa Sequence Nodes seem more like strengthening the character.
Genshin definitely lost the plot at Natlan. After the disappointment that is Mavuika the few things that keep me from deleting the game are my C6 R1 Arle, 400+ saved pulls and Snezhnaya (I must get C6 Zaritsa).
When it comes to the game itself, the only real advantage Genahin has over WuWa is the open word exploration, though I hope that changes with Rinoscita or whatever the new region is called. Best of luck to Kuro games they totally deserve it
What you can do delete the game now and install it when 6.0 start.. cause for me I'm just interested in senzhnaya. I just hope it's not disappointing also
@hessaa1712 fr my Snezhnaya is my sole hope for the game
at this point, im hoping for tsaritsa riding F16 in the game
@shikanokonokonokonokoshitantan if they ruin my Zarina like that I'm raiding Hoyoverse
Talking about designs as a player, for the characters and their game play one of the best from their respective regions, I'd mention Wriothesly in 4.1 and Xilonen from 5.1.
Tbh i like both.
I picked up wuwa becouse a friend showed me camellya, and i have to say it definetely is a great game, and it has a lot of deatures genshin wanted for years.
But what i like about genshin is the gameplay. Ofc i like the gameplay in both games, but genshins gameplay is one of my favourite gameplay systems out of these 3d gacha games.
Seem like noone mention about the chance of getting 5* in wuwa is 0.8%, not 0.6% like genshin. That's why u are luckier in wuwa.
Can confirm my bro is just so Lucky only 2 pulls and he got camellya .😅
Apart from jiyan, I have all limit 5 stars till now. As a f2p with astride pass.
@@ei-chan8929how are you f2p if you buy the astrite pass ? That doesnt make sense LMAO
@@Sinononon ah my bad, but the point still stands.
Hey, love your content bro, keep uploading
@@BOCCHI_Ys thank you 🙏
Carlotta fans rise up!
2.0 is a literal game changer from what I'm hearing. Can't wait for part 3!!! 😂
What I love about Wuthering Waves is that like all the characters are you getting a character? You don’t really have to be afraid of them being power creeped because I mean like obviously everyone has subjective opinion powerful but like you don’t really have to worry about that like you’re not getting a character and then like a next patch, you have to ditch it and wasted all your money like you’re getting good characters in your arm, gonna be worth it for a relatively long period of time and each team is different so you can’t this is my main wanna do something different every character is different in their own way synergy and Arsenal the game really doesn’t force you to pay money like there’s no really big pay like I’ve gotten most of the characters in Wuthering Waves except for like three that I missed because I had surgery, but that was it other than that if I hadn’t had surgery, I would’ve been able to get every single character in the game. I don’t have all the weapons, but I would’ve been able to get every single character so yeah I like the game that really cares about the player based and that have to make changes even if it’s a small train like the only thing that I still annoying with the Wuthering Waves is the team building thing like how you have five team format you can have so you don’t like your first team. Second team and stuff I wish there was more room to make more teams so not like we’re making more like still having the three characters in one team but more deployable team things like instead of five you had like 20 so yeah that’s what I wish they had and I loved
i dont care, it doesnt have furina
actually genshin is not a bad game, but mihoyo makes the game look bad especially in the eyes of veteran players, plus hoyoshill out there... mmm that's perfect
I totally agree with this statement. I've been playing Genshin for 3 years and I really like it. But after Wuwa was released and I've been playing since patch 1.0, I feel good development from patch to patch while Genshin is very minimal in that regard. Now I realize that Genshin is not a bad game, but it's developed by a bad company
I feel bad for the genshin character model, look at Yae Sakura compared to Yae Miko its night and day when compared the two and Hi3 is more older than Genshin yet the Valkyries in hi3 feel more alive than genshin.
@@NICSU667 sorry I can't comment on this because my HI3 progress is still low and the game is not my type. I also don't really pay attention to how the character designs are in Genshin or Wuwa. These games have their own uniqueness (To be honest, the theme brought by Wuwa has some similarities to DC Comics while Genshin is like Marvel. I prefer dark themes like DC Comics). But the point I left Genshin was because they didn't pay attention to QoL in the game properly, imagine how tiring it was when I farmed EoS artifacts for 3 months for just one character, while in Wuwa I only needed 2 weeks to get a good moonlight echos that could be paired with 2 different characters, etc....
@@revanbamboozles4971 I haven't touch Hi3 in years now but I did play the game since its release back in my highschool days. I do get your point behind genshin locked qol from gacha characters I'm just pointing out that they could do more improvement from their model design.
Tbh i'm not really have problem with genshin core gameplay, for me they tollerable since they already 4 years old to begin with,
But usually i more pissed at how mihoyo handle that game, like from censorship, childish direction, lazily implement basic qol, gacha system, rng, and the community itself
The only good news i feel from genshin probably only how they handled powercreep, because at least they better than hsr on this aspect (and probably because genshin use reaction based than element and role based like hsr)
Wuthering waves is just my kind of game, in terms of characters regardless of whether they're coming out or already in the game I'd have to say Zani. White hair red iris with black pupils is cool, her whole design is by far my favorite. And the open world is amazing, running around in wuwa is a blast.
his eyes are scary and majestic at the same time
@@vsCelestia-nq5cr I think this is a compliment so I’m gonna roll with it 😆
This is already the 13th comparison video I've seen posted this week
Do you people need this much self-approval to play your game? lmao
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It's made by different people and could have different points. Nobody forced you to watch it. Why feel insecure?
@ ain’t nobody feeling insecure yall just making the same content
13 videos from different people. If one is against you, that's not your problem, but if there are a lot more than one, you have to look back to yourself bruv.
RUclips business as usual for every genre and category which the algorithm suggests as is. Nothing new.
I say another point you can say is that the character story is just so much better, usually in Genshin I've seen is npc talks to another npc, and it usually about a problem from the npc to the point that I tend to usually don't care about the character story anymore (if this wasn't the case then I don't really remember only remember Ayato's story being like this), but in WuWa, there's npcs, but they actually have reasons and importance in the story, with the best and closest one being Encore's story, with Ying (The npc in the Story) so many people loved her so much to the point that they refuse to call her a npc and only call her by her name. If stuff like that happens, you know they did a good job with the npc and the story all together.
I agree, the character stories in WuWa are so good!
oh, don't start about companions' stories. 6 months later I'm still catching "Vietnamese flashbacks" from the Jiyan's companion quest and the Encore's recent one...
Cool story. Iam still not downloading wuwa.
@@JyGproductions and the world keeps spinning
I can't remember if you had it in part 1, but I like how we can grab new 4 stars in Wuwa from the shop as well. I had to skip multiple banners in Genshin because Chevreuse always appeared on banners I don't want to pull on. I would've love to grab her from the shop instead of risking getting C5 Raiden or another 5 star I don't care about, and even then it's still not guaranteed I'll get her if I pull. Funny how I got Youhu from standard, but even if I tried to pull for her and failed I could've grabbed her from the shop now anyway.
Leakers have leaked everything 😅😅😢 but gonna save for Zani 😢, after yinlin
Bro loves beating on Genshin impact. As a Genshin player and fan myself I respectfully agree with many of ur points but definitely do not agree with others such as crowns which even when i dont play very often i have too many. P.S : I play wuwa as well and totally agree that its combat is better than genshin although I also love the reaction system.
The P Diddy joke killed me lmfao
@@riversofbeauty2802 I’m glad I could be of service 🫡
I think the main issue is that people spend too much time/money to even consider switching games. I'm so burned out from the gacha daily routine that I didn't even feel like leveling my WuWa characters to endgame and just left after 1.1 story.
Genshin's characters would be NPCs in Wuwa 😂
Great video and agree on all your points, looking forward to more of your content!
@@jby217 🙏 thank you!!
Kuro is very generous and passionate so I'm sure they will improve the characters and design to be wuwa level. Hell maybe Mei and Yae would have a more mature body like Changli and their gameplay would be top notch, male characters would become more muscular like in wuwa with visible abs and chest instead of fake line drawing of those parts and loli characters would also look mature character like Verina.
Are you for real have you seen the npc designs for wuwa 😂
how come NPC level characters can sell more revenue?
Its so funny one npc genshin character got more revenue than entire wuwa character
As of now 2.0, i can now play it on my 3 year old, Poco x3 pro SD 855, 30fps medium settings. Unlike the first time wuwa came out it was unoptimized and glitchy and laggy on my phone.
It's not that we want elemental reaction in the game, it's more of players want each elements to do something more then just diffrent color numbers and gate keepign certain elements from enemies with high resistance, we don't need some crazy elements reaction system like Genshin, I think Kuro should ass minor effects to each element like Fusion doing a little bit of burning, Glacio doing a little bit of freezing, Lightning do a little bit of zapping, Spectro doing something ljke extra toughness and Havoc perhaps doing more damage after enemies gets broken.
I really think its a good idea to add a little of of unique elements effects for that more gameplay mechanics like this really can hype the combat even more while not disturbing the already existing combate in Wuwa.
Uhh did you play the game?bc they did 😂 glacio=freeze fusion=burn,not sure about other one
I just play either when I feel like it
Wuwa content creators arent obsessed with Genshin btw 🤣
In free to play friendliness section: Another one that seems not get mentioned enough is the primogems/astrites obtained from opening chests.
In gi- 2,5,10,20 (occasionally 40) in that order of rarity.
In wuwa- 5,10,20,40 in order of rarity.
It seems small but accumulate through time, it will add up immensely.
11:06 i dont remember those tides looking like that, my last play is yesterday, is this a new update???
For me, the meta is what is the current bonus in ToA lmao.
If the bonus is havoc bonus damage, havoc characters(camellya). If aero bonus damage, aero characters(jiyan) LOL.
It may be better but personally, i dont like playing wuwa compared to genshin.....just me
Danjin main are a whole different breed of wuwa player.
I agree that wuwa is a good game but As a casual player who plays for story and world building i prefer genshin and music is just cherry on top i hope wuwa improve
their story for exa genshin did a great job of depicting war and tensinon all over nation.
It is curious.
Just yesterday I heard this long video talking about how the story in Genshin has gone down in quality from 2.1 or something like that.
And just to match your "I play for the story", my favorite videogame generes are JRPG and VN.
@lesath7883 I think Inazuma (2.0 -2.3) story is rushed but (3.0) sumeru and (4.0)Fontaine is actually pretty good.can't say anything about natlan for now.
@@brightshadow4476fontaine is actually good minus still kinda blotted. Furina have an actual character (looking at u Ei) natlan 5.0 is kinda bad😅 5.1 trying to salvage that but to me it just ain't it.
i wouldve loved genshin story if the character were dynamic during the dialouges... im a simple guy thats it
@@raimeino bro, it would kill hoyo to stop following their library full of already made preset animations to put on characters and show more than tell.
I swear to God I almost thought that was Gavis Bettel until I read Brant's name
At first i thought genshin is a game where it takes place in medieval times due to monstad, but why the hell are there dj in natlan, the nation of war.
average gacha player attention span and reading comprehension
There are Ruin robots and Fatui soldiers with semi automatic rifle and blaster cannon resembling flamethrower since the beginning of the game.
Genshin isn't medieval or renaissance, it's just a headcanon made by story skippers and people who have the attention span of a goldfish kek
@MuttMeriShart56 Then i wonder why didn't they share the technology to other nations, do they like to gatekeep it like how hoyo gatekeep the qol to natlan only?
@@trollmen0768 Lmao yeah probably
It'd be nice if instead of elemental reactions they implement something similar to ZZZ's disorder mechanic so you're not limited to playing a specific team but you're still rewarded with extra damage just by better rotating your team during combat
That is called Quickswap.
You get a healer and 2 DPS and swap between both of them so fast that they both are literally on-field, dishing damage out.
Also, some crazy dude went out and played Danjin solo in ToA and got all the crests.
You can't get more experimental than soloing the end-game content and still crushing it.
Everything about Wuwa is always "Better Genshin" or "Genshin is bad compared to Wuwa" or something like that, but that's the only thing EVERYONE says about Wuwa, The game is doomed to be a Better Genshin for the Developers and CC that sell the game like that.
The game is decent but its not the best game ever, the game has potential to shine on it's own but is like the devs are trying so hard to make a "Better Genshin" and not a Better Game in general, Gifting 5 Stars or lots of rewards IS NOT how to make a game shine, that's a bribe.
And before anybody says i'm a salty Genshin player, I don't even play the game anymore since 2021
What makes you think the devs are just making a "better genshin", when the entire theme and specific Genre of being combat focused don't even Match Genshin?
Genshin is a slow to fast and relies on elemental chain reaction of each attack while Wuwa is fast, parry, dodge mechanic, and now has ult chain.
Both have elements but wuwa relies more on intro and outro skills even though they're both open world games they are very distinct on one another so I don't think wuwa is trying to be better genshin they just have some similarities but both don't match.
Of course wuwa was far from to be called best game, but for gacha genre especially the big one, wuwa is much better than the rest and have good direction too
Their popularity basically could indirectly affect the upcoming big gacha in the future and people expectation as well
Gifting a 5 star character is called a bribe now?. I get it genshin doesn't give free 5star so it must be bribing when wuwa does it.😂
What is your proof that wuwa is not generally a better game? It's doesn't have to be genshin wuwa currently the only one i found that deliver best GAMING experience, emphasize gaming here throughout current gacha market. Again what do mean by wuwa is just "better genshin" and not better game?
Tldr: giving free character aren't as weird but you only have being playing hoyo game that tell its rare.
7:55 Bro showing Bennette Constellation C6 notification I feel like 💀 (Something Wrong... I can feel it)
as usual wuwa fan can't talk about their game without genshin
Wuwa needs some more content that isn't just glaze, there's a lot to talk about but instead they choose to bash other games an complain about revenue charts
@@scopeyui240 if u don't like it than leave it bruh who grabbed u by the Balls to watch this video. Go watch mavuika fkin with zhongli and jrk off
@@BeingbasedAether This video is public
and it shown that wuwa community live by hating other game
well, u guys asking for a competitors and yet u guys complaining ? what a weirdo
@@shikanokonokonokonokoshitantan the competition is good, but that doesn’t mean all the content that’s made on the game should be slander against other games
imagine comparing Genshin 5 Star characters to the NPC of Wuwa 2.0. Im Excited
Good for now, apparently tencent owns 51% of the Kuro's stock now. And tencent don't have good histories with games (maybe some idk), but beware there could be powercreeps and more monetization contents in the future content. Even the notice said tencent will not interrupting the development of the game, still.
Anyway, god bless Kuro.
That sucks.
Hope Tencent does not poison Kuro.
It was already debunked with the whole Tencent and Kuro situation. Kuro themselves have made a statement.
prolly saw that on r/gachagaming right? hopeless false spreader smh
a Kuro insider already debunked this, Tencent is just a shareholder.
Kuro will still remain as an independent and Tencent won’t interfere with their current/future plans, strategy and developments so expect more marketing and high quality stuff in WuWa and PGR.
It was proven false 2hrs later bruh stop spreading missinformation
I'm playing both and enjoying both games. I don't think there should be a rivalry between the two.
Not enough views again so you created part 2?... Man wuwa CC's are starving for clicks huh?.. or just the game really living rent free on their bald heads 😂😂😂😂
on the banner matter, seems like the next 2.0 patch gonna be having back to 2 characters per update with another 2 reruns so yeah, rip wallet if you trying to get both or 4 of them
You could just, idk, enjoy both? Or whatever game you prefer instead of fighting over which ones better.
Just like any 2 games they both have their merits and demerits.
I do enjoy both. Games need to be compared. If they're not compared, nothing improves. Although that's a lost cause for Genshin at this point.
@@SolaceSaga But these 2 games that you compare, are not even in same bracket based on statistics? So is Wuthering waves "trully better" than Genshin?
It started with 30 milion players (registered at launch) if not more. Game far better than Genshin, as your videos stating (btw you have the most views by a large margin on videos in wich you mention Genshin, weird). It lost more than half of these players. I mean, player retention is a thing. Why is there is no retention if the games is truly better? (Genshin playerbase still 60-65 mil players, even after wuwa "killed genshin" btw)
So how about the downtrend that Wuthering waves went into? How about revenue going, obvs, as interest going down and the trends going down, revenue went HARD down aswell, if this is BY FAR better than Genshin? So not a solid statistic to backup your points. "Altough thats a lost cause for Genshin at this point". Yeah, except the fact thats not how it works. If the game, was indeed, better than Genshin, statistics, would purely show this, they would not show going down and down and down. Lets not talk about views and google trends where is a slaughter.
At least you get views from these videos cause you mention Genshin impact, rest of your videos about Wuthering waves... not so much sadly.
@@eduardiuhas7880 another coping player talking about revenue LMFAO, whats the point on talking about that fake revenue every month when you ppl hoyobots keep sucking hoyos dck and they spit on u like its nothing, at this point GI is just money grab and no improvements because the devs are fcking lazy
I like how in wuwa, you can cheese red elite bosses by using the landscape/environmental kills. Even if you low level, can can get gold echoes.
@@Jiparo5612 interesting. I’ve never done that before. But I will say, when you get to lager levels that doesn’t matter as much. Every echo you get will be a gold echo
@@SolaceSaga when you low on level and resources or not yet unlocked the database for 100% echoes, thinking how to cheese these bosses at early level is fun. I do think that they should add landscape and mechanic like counter attack do % hp damage in one tower of TOA to make figuring out how to cheese at low level instead of dps check is a fun way to get community making strategy around it.
Both of em are mid.
But I give credit where credit is due, yes both games have their own pros and cons
If they are both mid, then what do you play? These are literally the only two big / good open world gacha games lmao.
@@SolaceSaga
Mid doesn't equal bad lol, I do play both since day one and have a love-hate relationship with both games
heard brand is a healer.. probably gonna be a dps/healer/support but i dont know, that would be OP asf lmao
@@reydez84 yeah idk, I stay away from leaks as much as I can!
I agree with what you're saying. Most designs, especially Natlan, has been straight of jarring as of late. Wasn't Fontaine supposed to be the most technologically advanced nation? Why does Natlan have motorcycles and flying revolvers? What about this screams "A Nation of Warriors bred for war"? Hell, where is the cultural inspiration supposed to be?
What does NES Gaemer have to do with a warrior culture? What does a DJ have to do with a warrior culture? What does a biker babe, surfer bro or western cowfolk have to do with a warrior culture, dammit!?
The ONLY character that fits this design aesthetic is Iansan and maybe Kachina, because you have to mine ores to make weapons for war. It doesn't even feel like Natlan is from the same game, much less the same world.
Lot of fans say that Khanriah was the most advanced and Natlan is close to it so they have such things, but hoyo had to for "exploration impact" I went back in 5.2 and I started to explore and I was like hmmm it would be so easy if I had ororan and chasca, or else it is TEDIOUS to even unlock the teleport points. Each patch feels like the world was designed after the character exploration ability was decided.
Mauvika's bike can fly, surf and climb walls too, I hope capitano shows up in a truck.
It feels like Natlan represents what the world is today
@@thewanderingartistscaptitano will ride a f^cking tank for his Skill, and a helicopter for his Burst.
@@NICSU667 were just missing cellphones and internet in teyvat xD
Facts💯 everything that you mentioned from part 1 to part 2 are spot on but for me the only reason I completely stop playing GI is because they don't have skip button. But to be honest I'll pull Mavuika (even though her skills are weird) because I really love Himeko from HI3.