Because I didn't mention it in the video: 6 $99.99 topups = $599.94, hence title, but thankfully I didn't actually have to spend that much because: Thanks again to Paimon's Bargains for sponsoring three topups this time around! Check them out here if you want to save some money on your pulls: discord.gg/paimonsbargains (They are just a middleman service that allows you to buy top-ups where they are cheaper, they ain't giving you free primos, unless you win one of their giveaways they occasional run)
- People skip all previous Natlan units to save for Mavuika - Mavuika needs other Natlan units - Whomp whomp - Hey, you got the option to swipe to get a Natlan support, Citlali.
To be fair Traveler and Kachina along with Maviuka can fill her up as well...not sure if people really want to use Kachina though and as for Pyro traveler I've yet to finish the 5.3 story so don't have access to him to stat whether he's worth dropping Dendro from him for Pyro yet or not...granted if you don't have any other Natlan unit then you're stuck with just Kachina and Maviuka to fed her burst until you unlock Pyro Traveler/get another Natlan unit. Quite frankly these banners should've been Kachnia and Ororon (push him back to now I guess or just immediately re-run him) or another new 4* Natlan unit alongside Kachina if not Ororon should've been released this patch either with Lanyan or without her (they easily could've added 1 more new character if they wanted to...in particular a new 4* dendro, healer or dendro healer would've been nice for my account).
yeah Kachina is a perfectly good unit to pair with her ,,, but she's geo so if you want to do a bennett + swirler team you're kind of out of luck when it comes to elemental reactions
Only reason to skip units for her is if you are pulling cons. If you are pulling cons you don't need natlan units. If you just pull on random banners and don't have coherent teams then you don't care about abyss anyway. Even a budget mavuika team is gonna destroy abyss.
im confused why people thought this was the case, as far as i know there were no leaks alluding to this. Zenless was a special case im assuming due to the fact it was basically a mini relaunch of the game and they wanted to celebrate it that way
@@NotSoRainyy So, it is true, but hard to ignore how much better the player experience in ZZZ compered to Genshin. I think people just angry how greedy they are to realise two, very anticipated and synergistic, 5* in one Banner cycle BEFORE they give out the free extra primogems from the big flagship event. It is just very blatant.
the both characters in same phase just makes ppl really think abt which character they like more and tbf no players NEEDS either character to make the other feel functional so its not the biggest deal in the world but its def not a net positive thing if thing becomes a trend in the futre but personally i think its just a test to see how ppl respond to not having to wait for the new charecters cause personally im happy citlali is 1st half and not second.
If you don't have xilonen, Citlali makes a huge difference. I personally think that her ororon overload team feels great, But you do need 2 kinda rare 4 stars
Kinda had pretty crazy luck (my luck is usualy pretty bad). With 20 wishes, I got both Citlali and Mavuika. Originally I planned going for Mavuika. I got her in first ten pull (I had high pity and guaranteed). And later I just did one ten pull for fun, and I got citlali. Prolly now ill be saving for either Wriothesley rerun or Nahida (this vegetable escaped from my grasp 3 times already).
I also experienced this i got mavuika and citlali 17 and 7 pity respectively then i got mavuika's weap on 5 pity. Insane luck for my whole stay in the game since release 😭
Awesome! Honestly, I had pretty great luck with Neuvillette, because I lost my 50/50, but then 30 wishes later, got my guarantee. But then I got ANOTHER con for Neuvillette 20 wishes later. I really want Citlali or Mavuika but orz it seems I used up all my luck
4:00 People sleep *a lot* on Kachina C1. It pulls Crystallize shards when mounting/dismounting. And using Burst _counts_ as mounting/dismounting. That means a free *non-clunky* Archaic Petra Buff. Which leaves a free slot for ANY other Nightsoul Character (Traveler too) to hold the Scroll Set. If you ever get to C6 Kachina, you can actually go full crystallize investment to get a Shielder/Buffer. Because that constellation means losing a shield more often than not generates another shard right beside you.
@@Sable813 Yes. I actually use it on my Mualani Xilonen team. Mualani NA, Xilonen skill (Burst is not necessary here). Kachina Skill Burst picks up the shard. Currently Dehya is the 4th slot, probably going to change it to Pyro MC if it works. (AKA, lore purposes) I'm no sweaty theorycrafter, but the extra Geo app helps get rid of the extra Hydro and triggers Dehya Pyro app. Geo Resonance is nothing to scoff at and Interruption Res and shields from the crystallize shards (I got lucky C6 Kachina on release) are big QoL.
Another thing you can do with c1 Kachina is dismount then swap to a character holding petra, so you could have both Kachina solo Natlan and solo geo, while getting scroll and petra with a magnet
Gonna be honest...the only reason I don't use her is I just don't like using loli characters...no other real reason...only one I do use is Nahida and that's only cause she's the archon and busted to a stupid degree and one of the only good dendro dps off field units in the game along with emilie (really wish those leaked designs were real or they just went with her looking like Rukkadevatta instead as she'd be the best looking archon if they did imo...well female archon (best looking is still Zhongli (as is best looking male character)).
Mihoyo was like "were gona change in 5.0" it's been 4 patches we got 2 less artefact set got 2 new banners at the same time with no login rewards day 1 flying guns and bikes and 1 more dead patch with no map The dawei crocodile tears were definitely crocodile tears
This game is ridiculous. I throw 70 wishes on weapon banner, get citlalis weapon after losing 50/50. I throw 50 more wishes on citlali banner and get her too. I think I am done. Waiting for a better pyro archon. My furina, xilonen and citlali team are ready for the true pyro archon to show up.
I’m letting weapon banner to decide if I should pull for grandma , if I get mavuika claymore I would get her c1/2 if I get grandma’s weapon I will pull for citlali. And if I get a standard 5star weapon I will die
It was only by chance that I had around 100 pulls saved up before this banner AND had guarantee at 70 pity. I lost my 5050 on both the Mualani and Xilonen banners and decided not to swipe on Xilonen banner (after already swiping around $30 for it) when I only reached 70 pity before the banner ended. The stars aligned for me so I was able to get Mavuika & Citlali with the capturing radiance system but it's definitely a scummy move by Hoyoverse because most people wouldn't have been in my position. The same can be said about Chronicled Wish, they announce that way too late for anyone to have saved up unless they were skipping a lot in hopes of a rerun for an older character like Shenhe.
These banners are actually really great for me and right now I have a little more than you bought saved up so 5.3 is draining all my primos, I got lucky with my last few characters and weapons and have been saving since Fontaine, I can use cons for everyone except Kachina so I’m incredibly hyped
Usually when I watch people wish they just giggle and go and wish but you talked about stuff and explained things and it was a nice change bc I literally don't get anything about wishing, I feel like I gained some knowledge /pos
-Result of my 600 wishes on Mavuika/Citlali banners: C1 Mavuika and C0 Citlali - 360 wishes (lost all of those 50/50) Both of their weapon - 240 wishes (lost both 50/50 to Xiao's Weapon) -I wish i knew the weapon banner trick before WASTING all those wishes!
3:14 - 3:25 THIS, LITERALLY THIS! i had 470 pulls before i wished on citlali and mavuika's banner and i managed to pull them both within 160 wishes and now i still have 310 for my boy wriothesley for whenever he gets his rerun, and by the time his banner likely comes around i might have enough to guarantee him, his c1 and his weapon, which i would've definitely spent like upwards of £100 for if i had lost on mavuika's and citlali's banners. im usually so unlucky (full pity, lose 50/50, full pity again) which is why i plan out my pulls to a crazy extent (though i am a victim of impulse lmao, have two characters i regret because i pulled for them on a whim) and im on a 4 50/50 win streak which is CRAZY for me, longest ive had before this is 2 and that streak has only happened twice since 3.2 when i started. 50/50s make or break up to 6 months of savings
I mean...does that really change much even with how it's always been? Most people likely only pull on the first day of the banner releasing or the last for both phases of the character...so that's about 4 days in the 40+ day patch that pulling is even relevant for the vast amount of players...putting both at the start and having it occur all banner won't really change much as you're spending 90% of the patch not even pulling to begin with. Makes more sense to just have one or two multiple re-run phases for people that want to get characters they missed out on (hell rather than 2 phases they could easily do a trio of different re-runs each week (HI3rd does that on top of making many characters part of the permanent banner)). Content wise the only decent thing is the story which can be done in just a few hours for 99% of all quests...most of the rest of the content we get are recycled events or the same end game content as we've always had (abyss and theater...and if you like it the card game I guess) and nothing really new (hell I've suggested adding a new equipment type that you get by doing a maze end game mode multiple times and to this day it gets ignored, said equipment would increase things like elemental resistances or give some effect not in the game right now or give some of the rare stats or you'd get some slots on it where you get things like orbs (with stats or effects (say increase in burn damage/time, HP or energy auto regen by say 1 to 5% every few seconds, and stuff like that)) from chests in the dungeon when you reach certain checkpoints/the end (say the final chest has the one random of the rarest of said orbs) that you freely slot in as you please to build your ideal 6th equipment and have said mazes be randomly chosen from a list of about 40 different map layouts that had specific enemies and traps in each map (and add more in later updates) to give some variety to them (if i thought they could do randomly generated too I'd say that over static maps with set enemies/traps/etc but I don't think GI's team would be able to do it well tbh). The ideal is basically something along the lines of a treasure hunter/Indiana jones style mode which would be something a bit different than just the combat events (granted will have that too of course and probably a boss near the end) but it'd let the player use the exploration aspect of the game more in an end game mode).
To answer your question: I had been saving for about two months, and was able to get Mavuika c1, Citlali c0, and 120 pity on the weapon banner before I ran out of wishes. I get welkins, and I picked up the last two battle passes as an early holiday present for myself, so I’m not exactly free to play, but not a huge spender - I’m a relatively new player, so a lot of it came from exploring Inazuma & Sumeru. I do kind of regret it now. I had to skip Xilonen and Chasca, which didn’t feel great, and Mavuika’s on field playstyle strikes me kind of clunky and awkward (though her off-field mode is way better and more comfortable than the rumours had led me to believe, especially at c1). I’m also a bit worried about the future banners, because I still want weapons for both Mavuika and Citlali, but I also want to try for at least one Arlecchino if I can, and apparently Furina’s coming soon afterwards. Let alone potential reruns for Xilonen and Chasca so I can make up for missing them the first time…
I was F2P for a year or a bit longer.I was lucky in my draws and had no problem saving up until I lost my first 50/50 then I played a lot to get lucky 50/50 last day of the banner. After that it was always hard to save up in time also when the wast majority of the quests end exploration were done. Then started skipping banners (Nahida both times for expl.). I started to buy Welkin moon. And when I saw that Nuvi and Zhongli I spent 170€ for all the genesis for the first time. I drew my C1 Nuvi got the Zhongli got Mavuika and Citlali for that price. I am happy but I have 0 pulls available also never in my life spent that kind of money on a game. So they got me! But I was successful and lucky. So basically it's possible to be F2P but it's getting harder and harder with this type of new character double banners!
I think it depends on what they will do after this, since tbf realistically even if they put citlali 2nd phase most f2p/light spender still have to pick either one unless you already prepared for both or get lucky either way so I think people are judging this too fast/harshly, now to be clear I am not defending what they are doing I also like it if they pace it out each phase, but the question now is why? like do they want to do more chronicle banner + faster rerun for new character/the good character (neuvilette/archon)? also if they do make it a full patch banner and they lessen the day to 35 just like zzz would people like it better that way?
Assuming you havent 100 percented all regions have a separate release means increasing your timetable to get both characters. You save for the first then its possible you can pull enough rolls together to get the second. Another 20 days is another 20 pulls (with welkin) plus whatever event is running plus the starglitter store reset plus abyss reset etc.
@@globalelite3042 but thats also assuming if you are very new or havent touch exploration at all which at that point you wont care as much to pull either chara , and if you are f2p/lightspenders older player you actually need to constantly grind exploration unless you skip a lot of chara even with welkin, so if we only count what was given after, we wont have enough to guarantee either even if they pace it out each phase unless we are actually lucky. Guaranteeing both need averagely 140x2 which is 280 and at worst 180x2 or 360 pulls. again I am not defending their decision just being realistic about the pulls.
@@yuugael4010i think you overestimate how many people have completed exploration. Most returning players have a few unexplored regions. i stopped playing right after Nilou released and picked up the game just before Xilonens banner ended. Plus the low spender/f2p inherently have to skip a lot of banners and be selective about the charcters they pull. Youre goal is both characters guaranteed and while its not possible to Guarantee both you have a better chance across a longer timetable since youre likely coming in with pulls saved if you wanted both and if you get one you can start saving for the other for a longer amount of time
@@globalelite3042 I think you also overestimating returning player thats a drop againts active players, and as you said its still luck either way, again I am not saying that this is good or arguing it is which I think we both agree, I am just pointing that people are overreacting a bit with this, and at the end of the day we cant do anything to it cus its already happened, now we just need to know the "why" and what the future will be.
Free to play and had 126 wishes. Had 30 pity for Mavuika and only got her after reaching hard pity. Pulled for Citlali next and lost the 50/50 to Mona. I cry now.
Dear god yes please give me non-motorcycle mavuika teams. That bike, while awesome for exploration, feels terrible to fight with. Candace and chongyun infusions please
I like having both new characters immediately, because I would never have pulled for Mauvika if Citlali’s banner was later, since I like Citlali more. Didn’t end up mattering much since I lost 50/50 for both, so I’m not getting Mauvika anyway, but at least I had the chance. But having both banners run for six weeks would definitely be the best scenario.
No, i fully agree that when NEW 5 stars are released the banners should stand for longer. This wuld be amazing for the chance to save up and try to obtain them. There's no need to rush at this point..
Used 160 pulls on one Citlali. Happy to have her, was ready to use that much, even left with another pity on Arle in the next banners. Planing on worst is the key.
Can't wait for Citlali to never rerun especially because she released with the Pyro archon so people are more likely to choose Mavuika, and it'll be like "Wow look, Citlali made no money" o7 Genuinely don't understand why both new 5 stars are first half of the patch, aside from "How do we squeeze water from the stones in our player's wallets?" Meanwhile other gacha games are like "Here's a free 5 star, here's a bunch of free pulls, plenty of time to get them :)"
I grinded up 135 wishes and managed to get both mavuika and citlali somehow, the 50/50 gods are in my favor lately Now i just need to save up for kokomi
I managed to get Citlali in four ten pulls. I haven’t pulled for a character since Mualani came out (and I got her on my first ten pull), and I got Citlali without the special mechanic. While Mavuika is cool and all, I've been waiting for Clorinde's rerun since I had to skip her for Furina. Beint disciplined and pacient with wishes can be annoying, but the reward is worth it.
You may hate me, but with all the free Primogems and residues I built up…I got Mavuika in my first ten pulls ever this update. Also, it was directly after 5.3’s Archon Quest wrapped up for me. So I spent $0 for the Pyro Archon
"double banners are bad cause f2ps will have to skip everyone for both new 5* and future characters" meanwhile I only just now pulled citlali and the last 5* I pulled was sigewinne and before that was chiori: 😶 I like that I dont have to wait til the 2nt half to get the new 5* I want (that I often have to do) but I still wish they changed it so its not "1st & 2nt half" and they make the new character the whole patch and make it so there is more reruns during the whole patch or maybe like how hsr does it, to get the reruns going faster
Hello Sol, First of all, thanks for still making fun content on youtube, your videos are still one of the most interesting ones in Genshin. Sorry for the long comment like this but I wanted to make a point on your ramble of the double new Character banner. Now before you read the whole thing: TL;DR The new character double banner was made because of 2 possible reason: -Mihoyo Genshin devs are trying to fix their timeline so they cramped a lot of things in this patch. -This patch is Mihoyo's attempt of experimenting on whether the double new characters banners is a good thing or not.
Long Version: I do understand on your frustration and the comparison on the double banners on the zzz game. I agree on your point on both cases and would like to add an additional info. So, let's address the zzz banners first, and yes I agree on why it's good because it lets you have those two Harumasa and Miyabi banner for the whole patch. Which means, more time for players to choose on pulling + gathering materials + testing out both units. Plus, you can get Harumasa for free so we can evaluate that this patch was well planned and balanced. Now for Genshin, I agree with the problems you've stated on the time of the banners not lasting for one patch and may look greedy as there's a huge chronicle rerun banner on the next patch after this. You and I can agree that while the patch may look very good because it's full of content, but in actuality it's too cramped. I have 2 theories on why this happened by the way but it's all speculation on my part based on my own observation, so please take it with a grain of salt. Here it goes: 1. Schedule fixing: The reason why the patch is so cramped is that the whole Genshin dev team has been trying to catch up with their own timeline after a huge slip back in 2022. So, if you remember back then, after the Chasm quest there is an Ayaka banner that stayed up way over it's runtime. It was already confirmed that the banner stayed up because of another Covid outbreak in Shanghai back then, where the devs can't go back to the Mihoyo Office to work on the game. (AFAIK, this only affected the Genshin team back then and Honkai Impact 3rd team was not affected because their timeline was pretty much already finished for part 1). Now, the biggest 2 "evidence" I can make to prove this theory is the discrepancies of the Akitau Kimodameshi patch + event (a Halloween themed patch but released in December) and the north Sumeru region being empty or even retconned. You can also add the problem of reruns (Wrio when) for many characters which results in the chronicle banner (which still has it's problems). Now, if this patch is the only time where 2 new characters are introduced in a double banner, it would validate this theory. 2. Experimentation: The other argument is that the scheduling problems I've addressed above is already fixed and this whole patch is Mihoyo experimenting if this new characters double banner is profitable or not. If they like it' they will do it again. This might also be one of the new management (Da Wei's team) pitch to try and freshen up Genshin as it has multiple rival gacha games today.
As a F2P, I hadnt pulled since Furina Rerun I saved 40k primos in that time, but therefore couldnt pull on Xilonen either In the end, this came out to 240 raw wishes and I had 55 Pity ahead of time I had to spend 190 of these wishes, because I had to go to pity for everything and lost 1 50/50 along the lines I got Mavuika & Citali both, with about 80 wishes remaining for Shenhe (from starglitter and remaining primogems) All in all, I really wish they wouldn't stuff the banner like that :( Also wish Citlali or Mavuika were second half so I wouldve had a chance to pull Lanyan constellations A bit sad on how much I've had to invest, but I'm enjoying Mavuika & Citlali so far, Exploration has been great! However, given all I've had to skip to obtain it, I'm just a little bummed :D
i got citlali c1 that triggered capturing radiance(at 10 pity mind you), AND I WASNT RECORDING IT! but anywho.. happy regardless, kind of was my first intentional 5 star constellation.
@@pridedoesstuffyeah55342nd this, have her c1 and her kit has been power crept out of the game. I pulled for her thinking they would develop her but they havent which is a shame since shes the 2nd oldest character in the game
Personally I don't think this is permanent it does seem that Genshin is taking inspiration from the other Hoyo titles in a bad way but realistically if your F2P you weren't going after several On Fielder's in a row There tactics have become more agreesive. Like ZZZ churning out synergistic units one after another HSR and there current 8 Banner nonsense that people are praising (like there basically selling people whole teams) I've noticed that the supposed QOL all come at a cost. The Weapon Banner was a scam but they get both praise for coping the HSR system but also get to entice more players into rolling on state sticks and less on playstyles It feels like someone who was keeping the experience balanced got fired and now where pushing things like Powercreep into overdrive I half expect some new Endgame like in HSR that is basically a derivative of Abyss but will get praised because "it's better then nothing" Then they'll push the power budget and slowly warm up people into feeling like they need more cons or weapons I'm usually not cynical but it's not really this Banner but the small additions that feel like your typical Gacha traps Which is a shame because Genshin got its reputation from being above that stuff it was still predatory but very transparent and still let you exist outside the gacha nonsense In 6 months I for see the 3 major Hoyo games being more or less structured the same.
I went a little crazy when I got lucky on Chasca's banners and now I'm considering spending my Christmas money on Shenhe since I'd love her C2 and I doubt she'll ever run again 😭 I was counting on her running *before* chronicle wish, didn't think hoyo would change their own rules just to include her 😒 I want Mavuika but I know they'll run her again this year (as they do with every archon) and I don't actually like Citlali so I was planning to skip her anyway. I'm a budget player, welkins and BP but will splurge on special occasion/favorite characters. So far that's only been Ayaka ($45 last Christmas) but I'm prepared to spend more for Shenhe. I skipped every other Natlan character because I knew Chasca was my favorite. As far as hoyo running two new 5 stars who work well together at the same time, I think it's not a good decision and expect more people to skip Mavuika's first run and wait for her re-run
I'm a welkin moon and battle pass player and I had to skip every Natlan 5* except Xilonen and I also pulled for Neuvilette. I'm glad I saved up and was able to get both Citlatli C0 and Mavuika C0.
My first five star on this banner was Diluc, then Mavuika. I got the shining radiance mechanic while pulling for Citlali. I'm actually mad I was about to lose the 50/50 AGAIN and was only saved by the radiance. I've never had a string of wins as often as or as long as my strings of losses before. C0 is probably where I stop for Mavuika and Citlali on this occasion. Maybe on a rerun I'll try for C1 or C2. If only Chasca hadn't cost me so many pulls; I lost the 50/50 on her too. I didn't even want her, just her flying ability.
I‘m not f2p, more like a Welkin & bp player (& I buy top-ups only one time when they are doubled) but that double new 5* banner in the first half is rough. And the second half with Arlecchino didn’t help at all to make any decisions. I took my verdict on that situation: Citlali. I‘ve pulled her because I like her. Maybe even more then Mavuika tbh 😅And I think Citlali benefits my account more atm. Mavuika is the Archon. I expect for her to have frequent reruns. Can’t say that about Citlali tho. Maybe we will see her again in 5 years 🙃 That’s why I will skip Mavuika for now. Maybe I’ll try my luck with Arlecchino. Otherwise I‘ll wait for Wrio and Skirk
I think if there gonna do this zzz method we just need more primogems more often. Even cheapening the cost from 160 per fate to 150 is a good start in my opinion to help even a little
i lucked out so bad- i had around 30 pity when i started to pull for mavuika and i got her at 31, then i got citlali weapon at 8 pity, mavuika’s at 30 (guaranteed), then citlali at 25ish pity (capturing radiance). so total i only spent around 60 pulls i honestly wouldnt have pulled for citlali if i didnt get her weapon, i was just planning to snatch mavuika and arle haha, i have like 70 pulls left
Wishing everyone the same or better luck on these banners then me. Got Citlali, and very early Qiqi (like 5 pity) and Mavuika in 68 total wishes (I was at like 50ish pity going into it).
Kinda mad Citlali and Mavuika are in the same half, while I know Mavuika will rerun soon, being an archon, I want her and her c1 but I’m also saving for other characters and want/need them more. I pulled Citlali and got her & Keqing in a double, so I’m guaranteed for whoever I go for next, but i still wish they’d done one in first half, one in the second. I think that combined with hsr having 8 banners in 3.0, it’s starting to feel more money hungry than ever and it’s harder and harder to stick to being f2p 😓 ngl
Gonna be honest...if they had held off on Ororon and put him here instead of Kachina or some other new 4* Ntalan character it would've been better (would've made sense to put him here with Citlali or Citlali in last patch tbh). I wound up getting both of them but lost the 50/50 once and had to go to pity for the 2 times I won (the one up to losing 50/50 thankfully was 25 to 35 pulls after Citlali (got first as Maviuka will probably be out before Natlan ends like most archons in their series of patches). Had to use almost everything for it though as i had 28k primos, 16 int fates, and used 5 more glitter instead of primos to get the other 5 after 1 pull to turnt hat 16 int fates into 21 int fates (the 1 int fate pull by itself then 2 10 pulls). Didn't bother with the weapon banner due to having nothing left...as for weapons I went with the 4* Natlan craftable claymore for Maviuka as it has an effect that activates based off applying pyro and then I used the sacrificial fragments (think that's what one I used...the one with em and can recharge e skill) which actually is probably more useful for her than people may first think only due to the fact C0/no limited 5* weapon for her only allows 1 use of her e-skill to recharge about half of her nightsoul points and since her e skill's attacks only activate when nightsoul is over 50 (should be always active imo...don't know why the testers didn't complain enough about that as that's what I'm mainly using her for along with the pryo/hydro buff...the shield is nice too I guess but not too amazing either) the 2nd e skill being recharged can make it easier to fully fill up her nightsoul points with 2 eskills (if you get the recharge) and a burst and obviously her e skill scales off EM so it's a plus for that.
( i only spend minimally e.i. BP and welkin) since I usually have to pick and choose which banner to wish on, I just wish they'd have more banners at a time. Like have all 4 banners for the 40 days at the same time. I really want Shenhe, so i took a risk on Mavuika after getting Citlali. Fortunately i got her early at 30 pity. But I would have went for Shenhe after citlali first, and Mavuika if i had left over.
I’m not entirely sure what you mean about cancelling your fate point on the weapon banner. Technically if you have bad luck, you can get a standard banner weapon, cancel the fate point, reset the fate point, then get the weapon you were originally after. Then you’d have cancelled the fate point for nothing and you risk getting another standard weapon before the next one. Is it better odds to get the other on banner weapon if you cancel and reset your fate point? It makes it into a 50/50 right? Aaahgghh this game is so confusing Jesus
19:15 That's me, I pulled for Arle months ago, got Xilonen as she's a second Kazuha and once i got her skipped everything to spend on the pyro arcon and granny
as a f2p i actually got them both since im mainly only pulling for husbandos + broken supports lmao i pretty much skipped all the female dps. i dont go for weapons either so i still have 280+ pulls left over 💀
initially i was planning to use Mavuika as a support but now that i think about it: 1) i have waaaaaay too many supports and 2) i dont have a decent pyro dps. so.
be me: f2p so I've been super lucky. had saved 405 wishes (33 pity included in there) so i went for it. at 85 i got a 5 star. pretty late... it was mona. at 19 mavuika came. so then i went for citlali. at 69 another 5star, citlali came. 5050 won. after that i decided i wanted to try the weapons. but kill keep writing the char pulls since im already in that screen. at 2 another 5 star. mavuika. 5050 won. at 54 another mavuika, 5050 won. at 65 citlali. 5050 won. pretty damn lucky. weapons went as follows: 63, mavuikas weapon, whatever 5050 so, i won. 48, citlalis weapon, won the 5050 or so again. that was insane
I got Mauvika early on my second account. I just wanted Bennet, man. She wasted my guarantee, and I'm so sad. I wasn't even lucky, either. It was literally a waste. I was 65 pity when I got her; it's not even like I got her that early. I did 1 ten pull for Bennet for my guaranteed 4 stars, and then that 4 star turned into Mauka.
I tried to get Mualani and failed. So I got Xilonen. then failed at getting c1. Then I wasn't impressed by Chasca, so the only reason I had pulled was to get Sethos, and then to risk Chasca and see if i could get Ororon. (I did not) So I went into these banners with 73 pity and over 100 wishes, lol. I got Mavuika in a ten pull, and then got the special animation for Citlali. So I actually did skip most of the Natlan characters and end up with the best teammates for her, lmao.
i got pretty average luck with mavuika and her weapon (had mavuika guaranteed but got her somewhat early but lost the first RNG roll for the weapon and got it via epitomised path, but at least that was also relatively early) and now it’s just a question of if i still go for arlecchino C2 or continue saving for eventual yelan rerun
I had 24,000+ primos got mauvika in 1 10 pull then proceeded to pour the rest into the weapon I got memed and got citlali’s weapon and then had to keep going to get mauvika’s. Got it but I have nothing left now :( my plan was to get citlali too but not her weapon so now I’m just farming to hopefully not lose the 50-50 on citlali.
i mean just in the 42 days of 5.2 i managed to save up 160 wishes through exploring,welking, bp and i managed to get both characters to c0r1 so its definitely possible
uhh... that's definitely not possible for a late game f2p. When you have everything explored but the new region, we're usually max 110 wishes and that's a generous patch like anniversary. I think I had around 85 wishes in 5.2. without welkin or bp. Just trying to give you context of why it's not possible for some people.
So far I’ve had good luck pulling for character but after fully expecting to go for Mavuika I’m a little torn. Seems like she’ll be good but in order to be great she needs more. I p’ll have to think about it and maybe go for constellations for Arlecchino instead
Got super lucky and pulled Mavuika with 40 pulls, her weapon and citlali’s weapon with 10 pulls, and hoping to get lucky and get Citlali! I’m around 60 pity so we’ll see how that goes but im already happy and would be happy also with a guarantee so it’s win/win for me
Before Citlali goes into Cryo jail, we may be getting slammed from all the Cryo characters going on parole. Unless you got lucky, you have to swipe to get both Shenhe and Ganyu. Then again if Wriothesley comes out in 5.4. And if Ayaka and/or Eula come out in 5.5….
I hade a around 320 pulls, been saving since like 4.7 and i somehow managed to get citlali, c3 mavuika, both their weapons and a dehya, my only 50/50 loss
I have mualani and xilonen and i have 22k no guarantee right now. I also have The reigonal fountain things, achievements, and archon quest wishes. I could get mav or citlali if i wanted
I also went to pity for chioris weapon and i got xilonens weapon in a single 10 pull after. Idk if im just a god tier saver but i went into natlan with less than 30k primos and i got so much. And all without going into my f2p savings
Insane pulls I got her and her weapon within 120 rolls luckily. Can't wait for the shenanigans you'd do with her in your account! I hope she works well with Dehya, Peruere, and Baizhu
My luck was so bad, 85k primogems and 102 pink orbs, barely got me c6 Mauvika. 😭 And I still don't have her weapon. 😮💨 I only take solace in the fact it was all free saved for a year. 🙃
Can you stop saying 'yap' so much? I'm watching this video because I want to hear you talk, I don't want to hear you apologize for doing the thing I'm watching the video for.
Agreed with other youtubers I'm watching for what they do and not what they say bur soluna A has such a nice voice to listen to and doesn't feel like I'm being spoken to like a child and B he tells us such interesting things and things I would never think of
I guess? Its something I say largely as a shortform of "Ive been rambling about this for too long, lets move on" I can stop saying the word but Im still gonna have to move on from what I am saying eventually. Regardless, I will try to not apologize more in the future, I suppose, but I still think "yap" is a useful word lol
I have both of them now but what team can i run for them without xilonen. Rn i run mavuika ororon bennet citlali and my burst first hit does around 300-450k when i crit and after that i do 45k with some 90k Hits per time. Can i improve anything teamwise?
![I tried EVERY Mavuika team I could think of! [and now I like her]](/img/1.gif)
Because I didn't mention it in the video: 6 $99.99 topups = $599.94, hence title, but thankfully I didn't actually have to spend that much because:
Thanks again to Paimon's Bargains for sponsoring three topups this time around!
Check them out here if you want to save some money on your pulls: discord.gg/paimonsbargains
(They are just a middleman service that allows you to buy top-ups where they are cheaper, they ain't giving you free primos, unless you win one of their giveaways they occasional run)
- People skip all previous Natlan units to save for Mavuika
- Mavuika needs other Natlan units
- Whomp whomp
- Hey, you got the option to swipe to get a Natlan support, Citlali.
To be fair Traveler and Kachina along with Maviuka can fill her up as well...not sure if people really want to use Kachina though and as for Pyro traveler I've yet to finish the 5.3 story so don't have access to him to stat whether he's worth dropping Dendro from him for Pyro yet or not...granted if you don't have any other Natlan unit then you're stuck with just Kachina and Maviuka to fed her burst until you unlock Pyro Traveler/get another Natlan unit.
Quite frankly these banners should've been Kachnia and Ororon (push him back to now I guess or just immediately re-run him) or another new 4* Natlan unit alongside Kachina if not Ororon should've been released this patch either with Lanyan or without her (they easily could've added 1 more new character if they wanted to...in particular a new 4* dendro, healer or dendro healer would've been nice for my account).
This was literally me 😭😭😭
yeah Kachina is a perfectly good unit to pair with her ,,, but she's geo so if you want to do a bennett + swirler team you're kind of out of luck when it comes to elemental reactions
I got mualani, xilonen, xilonen weapon (early), chioris weapons, and i still have 22k primos to go for mav
Only reason to skip units for her is if you are pulling cons. If you are pulling cons you don't need natlan units.
If you just pull on random banners and don't have coherent teams then you don't care about abyss anyway.
Even a budget mavuika team is gonna destroy abyss.
My stupid ass really thought they were pulling a zzz move and making the banner last a whole month
there's ALWAYS a catch with genshin
What did you expect from typical stingy ting tong lmao
Me too so now I’m scared
im confused why people thought this was the case, as far as i know there were no leaks alluding to this. Zenless was a special case im assuming due to the fact it was basically a mini relaunch of the game and they wanted to celebrate it that way
@@NotSoRainyy So, it is true, but hard to ignore how much better the player experience in ZZZ compered to Genshin. I think people just angry how greedy they are to realise two, very anticipated and synergistic, 5* in one Banner cycle BEFORE they give out the free extra primogems from the big flagship event. It is just very blatant.
the both characters in same phase just makes ppl really think abt which character they like more and tbf no players NEEDS either character to make the other feel functional so its not the biggest deal in the world but its def not a net positive thing if thing becomes a trend in the futre but personally i think its just a test to see how ppl respond to not having to wait for the new charecters cause personally im happy citlali is 1st half and not second.
If you don't have xilonen, Citlali makes a huge difference. I personally think that her ororon overload team feels great, But you do need 2 kinda rare 4 stars
Kinda had pretty crazy luck (my luck is usualy pretty bad). With 20 wishes, I got both Citlali and Mavuika. Originally I planned going for Mavuika. I got her in first ten pull (I had high pity and guaranteed). And later I just did one ten pull for fun, and I got citlali. Prolly now ill be saving for either Wriothesley rerun or Nahida (this vegetable escaped from my grasp 3 times already).
Awesome
Congrats. Kinda similar here. Though it was evened out by all my failed 50/50s. Early enough pulls to get them both and Mauvikas weapon so I’m happy.
I also experienced this i got mavuika and citlali 17 and 7 pity respectively then i got mavuika's weap on 5 pity. Insane luck for my whole stay in the game since release 😭
I had 70 wishes and got a Qiqi and c6 kachina. Congrats for you!
Awesome! Honestly, I had pretty great luck with Neuvillette, because I lost my 50/50, but then 30 wishes later, got my guarantee. But then I got ANOTHER con for Neuvillette 20 wishes later. I really want Citlali or Mavuika but orz it seems I used up all my luck
My friend saved 686 (after refund) for Mavuika and her cons, and left with only C3. Remember everyone, expect the worst from the gacha...
sadge. i am sorry gamer, i hope your next wishing session goes crazy.
I just skipped both, problem solved!
Wow, how special you are, here have a cookie
@@Duckspawn69 ok chill man not that deep
I'm skipping both too. Xianyun all the way
I was gonna pull but I feel I will skip as well after seeing the reviews
Skipping both too. Waiting for chronicled wish banner
4:00 People sleep *a lot* on Kachina C1. It pulls Crystallize shards when mounting/dismounting. And using Burst _counts_ as mounting/dismounting.
That means a free *non-clunky* Archaic Petra Buff. Which leaves a free slot for ANY other Nightsoul Character (Traveler too) to hold the Scroll Set.
If you ever get to C6 Kachina, you can actually go full crystallize investment to get a Shielder/Buffer. Because that constellation means losing a shield more often than not generates another shard right beside you.
You give Petra to Kachina in this case?
@@Sable813 Yes. I actually use it on my Mualani Xilonen team.
Mualani NA, Xilonen skill (Burst is not necessary here). Kachina Skill Burst picks up the shard. Currently Dehya is the 4th slot, probably going to change it to Pyro MC if it works. (AKA, lore purposes)
I'm no sweaty theorycrafter, but the extra Geo app helps get rid of the extra Hydro and triggers Dehya Pyro app. Geo Resonance is nothing to scoff at and Interruption Res and shields from the crystallize shards (I got lucky C6 Kachina on release) are big QoL.
@@Sable813in the case of citlali + kachina, you would put archaic on kachina and scroll on citlali
Another thing you can do with c1 Kachina is dismount then swap to a character holding petra, so you could have both Kachina solo Natlan and solo geo, while getting scroll and petra with a magnet
Gonna be honest...the only reason I don't use her is I just don't like using loli characters...no other real reason...only one I do use is Nahida and that's only cause she's the archon and busted to a stupid degree and one of the only good dendro dps off field units in the game along with emilie (really wish those leaked designs were real or they just went with her looking like Rukkadevatta instead as she'd be the best looking archon if they did imo...well female archon (best looking is still Zhongli (as is best looking male character)).
Mihoyo was like "were gona change in 5.0" it's been 4 patches we got 2 less artefact set got 2 new banners at the same time with no login rewards day 1 flying guns and bikes and 1 more dead patch with no map
The dawei crocodile tears were definitely crocodile tears
This game is ridiculous. I throw 70 wishes on weapon banner, get citlalis weapon after losing 50/50. I throw 50 more wishes on citlali banner and get her too. I think I am done. Waiting for a better pyro archon. My furina, xilonen and citlali team are ready for the true pyro archon to show up.
I’m letting weapon banner to decide if I should pull for grandma , if I get mavuika claymore I would get her c1/2 if I get grandma’s weapon I will pull for citlali.
And if I get a standard 5star weapon I will die
what happened???
i mean citlali is the biggest damage buff you can get for mavuika, so might as well
UPDATE US WHAT HAPPENED 🙏
@@pizzafrenchfries707I hope he didn't get the standard weapon 😱😱
@@Kristofy1YOU NOT RESPONDING, DID YOU DIE?
Skipping them both - I haven’t bothered with any Nathan characters so I’m looking forward to watching you run them!
It was only by chance that I had around 100 pulls saved up before this banner AND had guarantee at 70 pity. I lost my 5050 on both the Mualani and Xilonen banners and decided not to swipe on Xilonen banner (after already swiping around $30 for it) when I only reached 70 pity before the banner ended. The stars aligned for me so I was able to get Mavuika & Citlali with the capturing radiance system but it's definitely a scummy move by Hoyoverse because most people wouldn't have been in my position. The same can be said about Chronicled Wish, they announce that way too late for anyone to have saved up unless they were skipping a lot in hopes of a rerun for an older character like Shenhe.
These banners are actually really great for me and right now I have a little more than you bought saved up so 5.3 is draining all my primos, I got lucky with my last few characters and weapons and have been saving since Fontaine, I can use cons for everyone except Kachina so I’m incredibly hyped
Usually when I watch people wish they just giggle and go and wish but you talked about stuff and explained things and it was a nice change bc I literally don't get anything about wishing, I feel like I gained some knowledge /pos
-Result of my 600 wishes on Mavuika/Citlali banners:
C1 Mavuika and C0 Citlali - 360 wishes (lost all of those 50/50)
Both of their weapon - 240 wishes (lost both 50/50 to Xiao's Weapon)
-I wish i knew the weapon banner trick before WASTING all those wishes!
3:14 - 3:25 THIS, LITERALLY THIS! i had 470 pulls before i wished on citlali and mavuika's banner and i managed to pull them both within 160 wishes and now i still have 310 for my boy wriothesley for whenever he gets his rerun, and by the time his banner likely comes around i might have enough to guarantee him, his c1 and his weapon, which i would've definitely spent like upwards of £100 for if i had lost on mavuika's and citlali's banners. im usually so unlucky (full pity, lose 50/50, full pity again) which is why i plan out my pulls to a crazy extent (though i am a victim of impulse lmao, have two characters i regret because i pulled for them on a whim) and im on a 4 50/50 win streak which is CRAZY for me, longest ive had before this is 2 and that streak has only happened twice since 3.2 when i started. 50/50s make or break up to 6 months of savings
Get a VPN and set it to Japan/China - you'll pay way less. EU/UK prices are f00ked.
F2P, got both Mavuika and Citlali in a total of 24 wishes
do you mind sharing some luck 🤲
F2p here. In 120 pulls got both characters (I was on a guarantee) plus benny plus bought xianglding from the shop
took me 190 (+50 pity), not guaranteed :c
Nice 42 fates and I got the pyro archon and her weapon
Congrats!
I like the fact that I don't have to wait 20 days to get Citlali,however teh second half only being reruns is kinda annoying too
I mean...does that really change much even with how it's always been? Most people likely only pull on the first day of the banner releasing or the last for both phases of the character...so that's about 4 days in the 40+ day patch that pulling is even relevant for the vast amount of players...putting both at the start and having it occur all banner won't really change much as you're spending 90% of the patch not even pulling to begin with.
Makes more sense to just have one or two multiple re-run phases for people that want to get characters they missed out on (hell rather than 2 phases they could easily do a trio of different re-runs each week (HI3rd does that on top of making many characters part of the permanent banner)).
Content wise the only decent thing is the story which can be done in just a few hours for 99% of all quests...most of the rest of the content we get are recycled events or the same end game content as we've always had (abyss and theater...and if you like it the card game I guess) and nothing really new (hell I've suggested adding a new equipment type that you get by doing a maze end game mode multiple times and to this day it gets ignored, said equipment would increase things like elemental resistances or give some effect not in the game right now or give some of the rare stats or you'd get some slots on it where you get things like orbs (with stats or effects (say increase in burn damage/time, HP or energy auto regen by say 1 to 5% every few seconds, and stuff like that)) from chests in the dungeon when you reach certain checkpoints/the end (say the final chest has the one random of the rarest of said orbs) that you freely slot in as you please to build your ideal 6th equipment and have said mazes be randomly chosen from a list of about 40 different map layouts that had specific enemies and traps in each map (and add more in later updates) to give some variety to them (if i thought they could do randomly generated too I'd say that over static maps with set enemies/traps/etc but I don't think GI's team would be able to do it well tbh). The ideal is basically something along the lines of a treasure hunter/Indiana jones style mode which would be something a bit different than just the combat events (granted will have that too of course and probably a boss near the end) but it'd let the player use the exploration aspect of the game more in an end game mode).
To answer your question:
I had been saving for about two months, and was able to get Mavuika c1, Citlali c0, and 120 pity on the weapon banner before I ran out of wishes. I get welkins, and I picked up the last two battle passes as an early holiday present for myself, so I’m not exactly free to play, but not a huge spender - I’m a relatively new player, so a lot of it came from exploring Inazuma & Sumeru.
I do kind of regret it now. I had to skip Xilonen and Chasca, which didn’t feel great, and Mavuika’s on field playstyle strikes me kind of clunky and awkward (though her off-field mode is way better and more comfortable than the rumours had led me to believe, especially at c1).
I’m also a bit worried about the future banners, because I still want weapons for both Mavuika and Citlali, but I also want to try for at least one Arlecchino if I can, and apparently Furina’s coming soon afterwards. Let alone potential reruns for Xilonen and Chasca so I can make up for missing them the first time…
I was F2P for a year or a bit longer.I was lucky in my draws and had no problem saving up until I lost my first 50/50 then I played a lot to get lucky 50/50 last day of the banner. After that it was always hard to save up in time also when the wast majority of the quests end exploration were done. Then started skipping banners (Nahida both times for expl.). I started to buy Welkin moon. And when I saw that Nuvi and Zhongli I spent 170€ for all the genesis for the first time. I drew my C1 Nuvi got the Zhongli got Mavuika and Citlali for that price. I am happy but I have 0 pulls available also never in my life spent that kind of money on a game. So they got me! But I was successful and lucky. So basically it's possible to be F2P but it's getting harder and harder with this type of new character double banners!
I think it depends on what they will do after this, since tbf realistically even if they put citlali 2nd phase most f2p/light spender still have to pick either one unless you already prepared for both or get lucky either way so I think people are judging this too fast/harshly, now to be clear I am not defending what they are doing I also like it if they pace it out each phase, but the question now is why? like do they want to do more chronicle banner + faster rerun for new character/the good character (neuvilette/archon)? also if they do make it a full patch banner and they lessen the day to 35 just like zzz would people like it better that way?
Assuming you havent 100 percented all regions have a separate release means increasing your timetable to get both characters. You save for the first then its possible you can pull enough rolls together to get the second. Another 20 days is another 20 pulls (with welkin) plus whatever event is running plus the starglitter store reset plus abyss reset etc.
@@globalelite3042 but thats also assuming if you are very new or havent touch exploration at all which at that point you wont care as much to pull either chara , and if you are f2p/lightspenders older player you actually need to constantly grind exploration unless you skip a lot of chara even with welkin, so if we only count what was given after, we wont have enough to guarantee either even if they pace it out each phase unless we are actually lucky. Guaranteeing both need averagely 140x2 which is 280 and at worst 180x2 or 360 pulls. again I am not defending their decision just being realistic about the pulls.
@@yuugael4010i think you overestimate how many people have completed exploration. Most returning players have a few unexplored regions. i stopped playing right after Nilou released and picked up the game just before Xilonens banner ended. Plus the low spender/f2p inherently have to skip a lot of banners and be selective about the charcters they pull. Youre goal is both characters guaranteed and while its not possible to Guarantee both you have a better chance across a longer timetable since youre likely coming in with pulls saved if you wanted both and if you get one you can start saving for the other for a longer amount of time
@@globalelite3042 I think you also overestimating returning player thats a drop againts active players, and as you said its still luck either way, again I am not saying that this is good or arguing it is which I think we both agree, I am just pointing that people are overreacting a bit with this, and at the end of the day we cant do anything to it cus its already happened, now we just need to know the "why" and what the future will be.
Free to play and had 126 wishes. Had 30 pity for Mavuika and only got her after reaching hard pity. Pulled for Citlali next and lost the 50/50 to Mona. I cry now.
Dear god yes please give me non-motorcycle mavuika teams. That bike, while awesome for exploration, feels terrible to fight with.
Candace and chongyun infusions please
Can u explain why it felt terrible? I personally don’t find it as clunky as mualani or kinich
I like having both new characters immediately, because I would never have pulled for Mauvika if Citlali’s banner was later, since I like Citlali more.
Didn’t end up mattering much since I lost 50/50 for both, so I’m not getting Mauvika anyway, but at least I had the chance.
But having both banners run for six weeks would definitely be the best scenario.
i was dreading having to spend money to get citlali but she jumpscared me at 2 pity, right after i pulled mavuika. it’s a glorious day.
No, i fully agree that when NEW 5 stars are released the banners should stand for longer. This wuld be amazing for the chance to save up and try to obtain them. There's no need to rush at this point..
The 3piece Diona pull was hilarious lol
Used 160 pulls on one Citlali. Happy to have her, was ready to use that much, even left with another pity on Arle in the next banners. Planing on worst is the key.
Can't wait for Citlali to never rerun especially because she released with the Pyro archon so people are more likely to choose Mavuika, and it'll be like "Wow look, Citlali made no money" o7
Genuinely don't understand why both new 5 stars are first half of the patch, aside from "How do we squeeze water from the stones in our player's wallets?" Meanwhile other gacha games are like "Here's a free 5 star, here's a bunch of free pulls, plenty of time to get them :)"
I grinded up 135 wishes and managed to get both mavuika and citlali somehow, the 50/50 gods are in my favor lately
Now i just need to save up for kokomi
I managed to get Citlali in four ten pulls. I haven’t pulled for a character since Mualani came out (and I got her on my first ten pull), and I got Citlali without the special mechanic.
While Mavuika is cool and all, I've been waiting for Clorinde's rerun since I had to skip her for Furina. Beint disciplined and pacient with wishes can be annoying, but the reward is worth it.
You may hate me, but with all the free Primogems and residues I built up…I got Mavuika in my first ten pulls ever this update. Also, it was directly after 5.3’s Archon Quest wrapped up for me. So I spent $0 for the Pyro Archon
In 240 wishes, i got mavuika c2, Citlali, and both of their weapons 🍀
"double banners are bad cause f2ps will have to skip everyone for both new 5* and future characters"
meanwhile I only just now pulled citlali and the last 5* I pulled was sigewinne and before that was chiori: 😶
I like that I dont have to wait til the 2nt half to get the new 5* I want (that I often have to do) but I still wish they changed it so its not "1st & 2nt half" and they make the new character the whole patch and make it so there is more reruns during the whole patch or maybe like how hsr does it, to get the reruns going faster
TBH I really enjoy watching your content because I learn about things / think about them I’d never imagine
Hello Sol,
First of all, thanks for still making fun content on youtube, your videos are still one of the most interesting ones in Genshin.
Sorry for the long comment like this but I wanted to make a point on your ramble of the double new Character banner.
Now before you read the whole thing:
TL;DR
The new character double banner was made because of 2 possible reason:
-Mihoyo Genshin devs are trying to fix their timeline so they cramped a lot of things in this patch.
-This patch is Mihoyo's attempt of experimenting on whether the double new characters banners is a good thing or not.
Long Version:
I do understand on your frustration and the comparison on the double banners on the zzz game. I agree on your point on both cases and would like to add an additional info.
So, let's address the zzz banners first, and yes I agree on why it's good because it lets you have those two Harumasa and Miyabi banner for the whole patch. Which means, more time for players to choose on pulling + gathering materials + testing out both units. Plus, you can get Harumasa for free so we can evaluate that this patch was well planned and balanced.
Now for Genshin, I agree with the problems you've stated on the time of the banners not lasting for one patch and may look greedy as there's a huge chronicle rerun banner on the next patch after this. You and I can agree that while the patch may look very good because it's full of content, but in actuality it's too cramped.
I have 2 theories on why this happened by the way but it's all speculation on my part based on my own observation, so please take it with a grain of salt. Here it goes:
1. Schedule fixing:
The reason why the patch is so cramped is that the whole Genshin dev team has been trying to catch up with their own timeline after a huge slip back in 2022. So, if you remember back then, after the Chasm quest there is an Ayaka banner that stayed up way over it's runtime. It was already confirmed that the banner stayed up because of another Covid outbreak in Shanghai back then, where the devs can't go back to the Mihoyo Office to work on the game. (AFAIK, this only affected the Genshin team back then and Honkai Impact 3rd team was not affected because their timeline was pretty much already finished for part 1).
Now, the biggest 2 "evidence" I can make to prove this theory is the discrepancies of the Akitau Kimodameshi patch + event (a Halloween themed patch but released in December) and the north Sumeru region being empty or even retconned. You can also add the problem of reruns (Wrio when) for many characters which results in the chronicle banner (which still has it's problems).
Now, if this patch is the only time where 2 new characters are introduced in a double banner, it would validate this theory.
2. Experimentation:
The other argument is that the scheduling problems I've addressed above is already fixed and this whole patch is Mihoyo experimenting if this new characters double banner is profitable or not. If they like it' they will do it again. This might also be one of the new management (Da Wei's team) pitch to try and freshen up Genshin as it has multiple rival gacha games today.
Mavuika appricates Bennett. Bennett is still the true pyro archon, bow down to your lord Natlanese people.
As a F2P, I hadnt pulled since Furina Rerun
I saved 40k primos in that time, but therefore couldnt pull on Xilonen either
In the end, this came out to 240 raw wishes and I had 55 Pity ahead of time
I had to spend 190 of these wishes, because I had to go to pity for everything and lost 1 50/50 along the lines
I got Mavuika & Citali both, with about 80 wishes remaining for Shenhe (from starglitter and remaining primogems)
All in all, I really wish they wouldn't stuff the banner like that :(
Also wish Citlali or Mavuika were second half so I wouldve had a chance to pull Lanyan constellations
A bit sad on how much I've had to invest, but I'm enjoying Mavuika & Citlali so far, Exploration has been great!
However, given all I've had to skip to obtain it, I'm just a little bummed :D
i got citlali c1 that triggered capturing radiance(at 10 pity mind you), AND I WASNT RECORDING IT! but anywho.. happy regardless, kind of was my first intentional 5 star constellation.
155 wishes and i only got c0 citlali 😐 saving the rest for ganyu
If u like ganyu get her, but as a ganyu haver she aint that good
@@pridedoesstuffyeah55342nd this, have her c1 and her kit has been power crept out of the game. I pulled for her thinking they would develop her but they havent which is a shame since shes the 2nd oldest character in the game
@pridedoesstuffyeah5534 she looks pretty and thats enough
Personally I don't think this is permanent it does seem that Genshin is taking inspiration from the other Hoyo titles in a bad way but realistically if your F2P you weren't going after several On Fielder's in a row
There tactics have become more agreesive. Like ZZZ churning out synergistic units one after another
HSR and there current 8 Banner nonsense that people are praising (like there basically selling people whole teams)
I've noticed that the supposed QOL all come at a cost. The Weapon Banner was a scam but they get both praise for coping the HSR system but also get to entice more players into rolling on state sticks and less on playstyles
It feels like someone who was keeping the experience balanced got fired and now where pushing things like Powercreep into overdrive
I half expect some new Endgame like in HSR that is basically a derivative of Abyss but will get praised because "it's better then nothing"
Then they'll push the power budget and slowly warm up people into feeling like they need more cons or weapons
I'm usually not cynical but it's not really this Banner but the small additions that feel like your typical Gacha traps
Which is a shame because Genshin got its reputation from being above that stuff it was still predatory but very transparent and still let you exist outside the gacha nonsense
In 6 months I for see the 3 major Hoyo games being more or less structured the same.
I went a little crazy when I got lucky on Chasca's banners and now I'm considering spending my Christmas money on Shenhe since I'd love her C2 and I doubt she'll ever run again 😭 I was counting on her running *before* chronicle wish, didn't think hoyo would change their own rules just to include her 😒
I want Mavuika but I know they'll run her again this year (as they do with every archon) and I don't actually like Citlali so I was planning to skip her anyway. I'm a budget player, welkins and BP but will splurge on special occasion/favorite characters. So far that's only been Ayaka ($45 last Christmas) but I'm prepared to spend more for Shenhe. I skipped every other Natlan character because I knew Chasca was my favorite. As far as hoyo running two new 5 stars who work well together at the same time, I think it's not a good decision and expect more people to skip Mavuika's first run and wait for her re-run
I'm a welkin moon and battle pass player and I had to skip every Natlan 5* except Xilonen and I also pulled for Neuvilette. I'm glad I saved up and was able to get both Citlatli C0 and Mavuika C0.
My first five star on this banner was Diluc, then Mavuika. I got the shining radiance mechanic while pulling for Citlali. I'm actually mad I was about to lose the 50/50 AGAIN and was only saved by the radiance. I've never had a string of wins as often as or as long as my strings of losses before. C0 is probably where I stop for Mavuika and Citlali on this occasion. Maybe on a rerun I'll try for C1 or C2.
If only Chasca hadn't cost me so many pulls; I lost the 50/50 on her too. I didn't even want her, just her flying ability.
Best banner ever! Got Citlali to C2 and Mavuika c6 and both their sig weapons, for 700 bucks. Won every 50/50, it's crazy!
That must be some of the luckiest summons both 50/50s won and a perfect weapon banner pulls
I‘m not f2p, more like a Welkin & bp player (& I buy top-ups only one time when they are doubled) but that double new 5* banner in the first half is rough. And the second half with Arlecchino didn’t help at all to make any decisions.
I took my verdict on that situation: Citlali.
I‘ve pulled her because I like her. Maybe even more then Mavuika tbh 😅And I think Citlali benefits my account more atm.
Mavuika is the Archon. I expect for her to have frequent reruns. Can’t say that about Citlali tho. Maybe we will see her again in 5 years 🙃
That’s why I will skip Mavuika for now. Maybe I’ll try my luck with Arlecchino. Otherwise I‘ll wait for Wrio and Skirk
About Kachina, her C2 actually helps her build Mavuika burst so...
I think if there gonna do this zzz method we just need more primogems more often. Even cheapening the cost from 160 per fate to 150 is a good start in my opinion to help even a little
i lucked out so bad- i had around 30 pity when i started to pull for mavuika and i got her at 31, then i got citlali weapon at 8 pity, mavuika’s at 30 (guaranteed), then citlali at 25ish pity (capturing radiance). so total i only spent around 60 pulls
i honestly wouldnt have pulled for citlali if i didnt get her weapon, i was just planning to snatch mavuika and arle haha, i have like 70 pulls left
Lost my 4th 5050 on Mavuika and then it still took 81 rolls after to get her 😢
Gonna do my 1 top up a year for Citlali and surely I won't lose my 5th 5050 right 😅
@@SandwichPeddler Ye you'll get capturing radiance
Wishing everyone the same or better luck on these banners then me. Got Citlali, and very early Qiqi (like 5 pity) and Mavuika in 68 total wishes (I was at like 50ish pity going into it).
Kinda mad Citlali and Mavuika are in the same half, while I know Mavuika will rerun soon, being an archon, I want her and her c1 but I’m also saving for other characters and want/need them more. I pulled Citlali and got her & Keqing in a double, so I’m guaranteed for whoever I go for next, but i still wish they’d done one in first half, one in the second. I think that combined with hsr having 8 banners in 3.0, it’s starting to feel more money hungry than ever and it’s harder and harder to stick to being f2p 😓 ngl
I can’t wait to see the citlali dps vid
Do you think Cons are even really needed for Mavuika or Citlali to make them viable?
Or is C2 Mavuika and C1 Citlali that insane?
C2 Mavuika is absolutely insane. Her burst initial hit alone when melted does the damage of a full rotation of a decent team
The voice matches gambling vibe really well❤😆
I got mavuika at 90 pity but won 50/50, then won 50/50 again with citlali at 30 pity. Will never be this lucky again in my life tbh
Gonna be honest...if they had held off on Ororon and put him here instead of Kachina or some other new 4* Ntalan character it would've been better (would've made sense to put him here with Citlali or Citlali in last patch tbh).
I wound up getting both of them but lost the 50/50 once and had to go to pity for the 2 times I won (the one up to losing 50/50 thankfully was 25 to 35 pulls after Citlali (got first as Maviuka will probably be out before Natlan ends like most archons in their series of patches). Had to use almost everything for it though as i had 28k primos, 16 int fates, and used 5 more glitter instead of primos to get the other 5 after 1 pull to turnt hat 16 int fates into 21 int fates (the 1 int fate pull by itself then 2 10 pulls).
Didn't bother with the weapon banner due to having nothing left...as for weapons I went with the 4* Natlan craftable claymore for Maviuka as it has an effect that activates based off applying pyro and then I used the sacrificial fragments (think that's what one I used...the one with em and can recharge e skill) which actually is probably more useful for her than people may first think only due to the fact C0/no limited 5* weapon for her only allows 1 use of her e-skill to recharge about half of her nightsoul points and since her e skill's attacks only activate when nightsoul is over 50 (should be always active imo...don't know why the testers didn't complain enough about that as that's what I'm mainly using her for along with the pryo/hydro buff...the shield is nice too I guess but not too amazing either) the 2nd e skill being recharged can make it easier to fully fill up her nightsoul points with 2 eskills (if you get the recharge) and a burst and obviously her e skill scales off EM so it's a plus for that.
( i only spend minimally e.i. BP and welkin) since I usually have to pick and choose which banner to wish on, I just wish they'd have more banners at a time. Like have all 4 banners for the 40 days at the same time. I really want Shenhe, so i took a risk on Mavuika after getting Citlali. Fortunately i got her early at 30 pity. But I would have went for Shenhe after citlali first, and Mavuika if i had left over.
I’m not entirely sure what you mean about cancelling your fate point on the weapon banner. Technically if you have bad luck, you can get a standard banner weapon, cancel the fate point, reset the fate point, then get the weapon you were originally after. Then you’d have cancelled the fate point for nothing and you risk getting another standard weapon before the next one. Is it better odds to get the other on banner weapon if you cancel and reset your fate point? It makes it into a 50/50 right? Aaahgghh this game is so confusing Jesus
You can’t lose to a standard banner weapon twice in a row
So if you’d cancel you’d 100% then get both
19:15 That's me, I pulled for Arle months ago, got Xilonen as she's a second Kazuha and once i got her skipped everything to spend on the pyro arcon and granny
I haven’t played this game in 2 years, guess I got returners luck. Won both of their 50/50s and strangely got them both at 29 wishes.
as a f2p i actually got them both since im mainly only pulling for husbandos + broken supports lmao i pretty much skipped all the female dps. i dont go for weapons either so i still have 280+ pulls left over 💀
initially i was planning to use Mavuika as a support but now that i think about it: 1) i have waaaaaay too many supports and 2) i dont have a decent pyro dps. so.
I got both weapons and characters in 280 pulls 😭 im actually pretty happy abt that
be me:
f2p
so I've been super lucky.
had saved 405 wishes (33 pity included in there)
so i went for it.
at 85 i got a 5 star. pretty late... it was mona.
at 19 mavuika came.
so then i went for citlali.
at 69 another 5star, citlali came. 5050 won.
after that i decided i wanted to try the weapons.
but kill keep writing the char pulls since im already in that screen.
at 2 another 5 star.
mavuika. 5050 won.
at 54 another mavuika, 5050 won.
at 65 citlali. 5050 won.
pretty damn lucky.
weapons went as follows:
63, mavuikas weapon, whatever 5050 so, i won.
48, citlalis weapon, won the 5050 or so again.
that was insane
I got lucky getting Mavuika at 20 pulls and Citlani at 40 pulls. She's a real keeper
You literally won more 50/50's than I've won my entire time playing (On two years now)
My luck was fucking idiotic this time around, I got mavuika two of her weapons and a skyward atlas in 20 pulls. I guess im going for Citlali now.
okay I got a citlali too. Actual fuck is this banner. I know they're scamming everyone else but im winning.
I got Mauvika early on my second account. I just wanted Bennet, man. She wasted my guarantee, and I'm so sad. I wasn't even lucky, either. It was literally a waste. I was 65 pity when I got her; it's not even like I got her that early. I did 1 ten pull for Bennet for my guaranteed 4 stars, and then that 4 star turned into Mauka.
I tried to get Mualani and failed. So I got Xilonen. then failed at getting c1. Then I wasn't impressed by Chasca, so the only reason I had pulled was to get Sethos, and then to risk Chasca and see if i could get Ororon. (I did not) So I went into these banners with 73 pity and over 100 wishes, lol. I got Mavuika in a ten pull, and then got the special animation for Citlali. So I actually did skip most of the Natlan characters and end up with the best teammates for her, lmao.
i got pretty average luck with mavuika and her weapon (had mavuika guaranteed but got her somewhat early but lost the first RNG roll for the weapon and got it via epitomised path, but at least that was also relatively early) and now it’s just a question of if i still go for arlecchino C2 or continue saving for eventual yelan rerun
I had 24,000+ primos got mauvika in 1 10 pull then proceeded to pour the rest into the weapon I got memed and got citlali’s weapon and then had to keep going to get mauvika’s. Got it but I have nothing left now :( my plan was to get citlali too but not her weapon so now I’m just farming to hopefully not lose the 50-50 on citlali.
i mean just in the 42 days of 5.2 i managed to save up 160 wishes through exploring,welking, bp and i managed to get both characters to c0r1 so its definitely possible
uhh... that's definitely not possible for a late game f2p. When you have everything explored but the new region, we're usually max 110 wishes and that's a generous patch like anniversary. I think I had around 85 wishes in 5.2. without welkin or bp. Just trying to give you context of why it's not possible for some people.
@ well i did a lot of exploring outside of natlan, i basically finished inazuma from having around 50% everywhere and also did quests
@ and i did say i had bp and welkin aswell
So far I’ve had good luck pulling for character but after fully expecting to go for Mavuika I’m a little torn. Seems like she’ll be good but in order to be great she needs more. I p’ll have to think about it and maybe go for constellations for Arlecchino instead
Got super lucky and pulled Mavuika with 40 pulls, her weapon and citlali’s weapon with 10 pulls, and hoping to get lucky and get Citlali! I’m around 60 pity so we’ll see how that goes but im already happy and would be happy also with a guarantee so it’s win/win for me
Before Citlali goes into Cryo jail, we may be getting slammed from all the Cryo characters going on parole. Unless you got lucky, you have to swipe to get both Shenhe and Ganyu. Then again if Wriothesley comes out in 5.4. And if Ayaka and/or Eula come out in 5.5….
I hade a around 320 pulls, been saving since like 4.7 and i somehow managed to get citlali, c3 mavuika, both their weapons and a dehya, my only 50/50 loss
I had 120 wishes. Got Mona after 10. At least it was early, then got Citlali after 77, don't want her weapon so it worked out well for me.
I have mualani and xilonen and i have 22k no guarantee right now. I also have The reigonal fountain things, achievements, and archon quest wishes. I could get mav or citlali if i wanted
Not to mention i also went to pity for chioris weapons and i got xilonens weapon in a single 10 pull after
I also went to pity for chioris weapon and i got xilonens weapon in a single 10 pull after. Idk if im just a god tier saver but i went into natlan with less than 30k primos and i got so much. And all without going into my f2p savings
you are the epitome of do as i say not as i do 😂 but love your luck for the most of it
Insane pulls
I got her and her weapon within 120 rolls luckily.
Can't wait for the shenanigans you'd do with her in your account!
I hope she works well with Dehya, Peruere, and Baizhu
I got both limited weapons, so looks like I'm building Lan Yan, when she comes out.
I decided to let which weapon I got to decide what I pulled for. I ended up with Citali weapon, so I pulled for her.
Yo, Mavuika's hair is fire
I did 150 pulls - lost the 50/50 on Mona, got Citlali at 80 pity and not a single Kachina...
it's actually crazy that ppl still spend that much money on this mihoyo game lol
You can try shatterbloom kaveh again.
i got both characters AND their sign in 260 pulls
it was pretty wild pulls
My luck was so bad, 85k primogems and 102 pink orbs, barely got me c6 Mauvika. 😭 And I still don't have her weapon. 😮💨 I only take solace in the fact it was all free saved for a year. 🙃
I'm waiting to C6 Lan Yan instead and later I will probably get multiple Clorindes before that
This happened to me saved up about 65 pulls, 2nd 10 pull lost 5050 to dehya then next ten pull got 2 citlalis. and im back to about 50 fates
I somehow got lucky and got both, would have tried the weapon banner if I didn’t want the jade cutter in chronicled wish🤷🏻♀️
Tbh I only went for citlali cos of hoyo's fomo tactic of not rerunning cryo characters 😂
I had nearly 100 wishes saved and all it got me was 1 mauvika (70 pulls in and no weapon)
Got her weapon with the free pulls, on my second pull. Sooo I guess I’m pulling for mavuika first then prolly gonna wait for furina
I had the best luck I ever had I got both of them in 20 pulls and mavuika’s weapon in 40 🎉 my first time winning the weapon banner
Can you stop saying 'yap' so much? I'm watching this video because I want to hear you talk, I don't want to hear you apologize for doing the thing I'm watching the video for.
Agreed with other youtubers I'm watching for what they do and not what they say bur soluna A has such a nice voice to listen to and doesn't feel like I'm being spoken to like a child and B he tells us such interesting things and things I would never think of
I guess? Its something I say largely as a shortform of "Ive been rambling about this for too long, lets move on"
I can stop saying the word but Im still gonna have to move on from what I am saying eventually.
Regardless, I will try to not apologize more in the future, I suppose, but I still think "yap" is a useful word lol
I have both of them now but what team can i run for them without xilonen. Rn i run mavuika ororon bennet citlali and my burst first hit does around 300-450k when i crit and after that i do 45k with some 90k Hits per time. Can i improve anything teamwise?