@@LazyJesse You didn't understand what I wrote, I know they're based on the sprites, I'm saying the raytracing makes them look too much like Minecraft models. It's a problem with the lighting, not the models.
The fact that people are still creating mods for Doom II after 30 years really shows how strong the gameplay is. It’s a true testament to the game's lasting appeal.
@@IncognitoActivado Oh, okay! I personally like how they kept most of the art-style intact and added just a couple of raytraced surfaces. Maybe it'll draw younger people to the game with the novel flashy visuals and they stay for the gameplay and mods.
@@KitchenGuy "Maybe it'll draw younger people to the game with the novel flashy visuals and they stay for the gameplay and mods." Good games don't need that crap to be found, so no.
Looks really nice. I like the fact that not everything looks ‘wet’, something you see with most of the ‘modern looking’ mods. The combination with Voxel Doom is also very very nice
Another proof that lighting is the biggest element of graphics. You can have 30 year old textures and geometry detail, sprite/voxel blocky enemies and still have good graphics if your lighting simulation is good. Same as Minecraft shaders
Lighting is the biggest element in anything looking beautiful. . .the position of the sun can make anything look either beautiful or stone cold ugly. . .
The blood effects are goofy, but I found out, that Nash's Gore mod works with this version - you just have to drop the wad file on the Doom RT launcher, and the game runs with it. It looks great. Sadly, no other wads seem to work this way. Playing Sunlust or Ancient Aliens with RT would be amazing.
When you say "Drop the wad on the Doom RT launcher" can you elaborate? Do you need to add extra commands to the .exe or something? The fluid simulation is super silly IMO and I would greatly prefer to run Nash's gore mod.
@@PunishedOne I wish I could tell you in detail, but YT keeps deleting my comment over and over again... Drag and drop the nash pk mod file onto the gzdoom application in the mod folder.
Mod seems to involve a lot lot of added texture maps and custom-place light sources, so I imagine it wouldn't have much of an effect or look all that great with other map WADs. Some WADs already have issues with GZDoom's advanced lighting options.
This looks way better than I expected. I think the voxel models are a big part of it, and the hanging light bulbs and colored lights to make sure the levels are lit appropriately. It keeps a Doom feel while massively upgrading the rendering tech, which is really hard to do and usually comes out as an ugly mismatch.
exactly what I was thinking! John makes great doom 3 game with epic lighting for the time and nobody cares. suddenly raytracing is a thing and everyone loses their shit!
@@citizen3000 it was a major thing when it was in development. There were whole write-ups in magazines about how amazing the lighting and shadows were and how much work went into it and how it pushed technology. Sorry you weren't there for it.
I wonder how Cheello, the maker of Voxel Doom project, feels how his exhausting and extensive work is being used probably the most optimal way possible. First being so compatible with VR, and now having RT on top of it? I'm glad we have the guy in the community, but we aren't worthy of him. He did such and amazing job. Heck, if he looks at this and isn't satisfied from seeing the rough edges of this and decides to do a revamp on the job by 1.5x or even 2x the pixel density of the voxels, that would be crazy.
@@EnigmaHood I agree. The more contrasting light conditions really accentuating the shadows and highlights around all the square angles just ends up breaking the cohesion by introducing all this noise within the shapes of the models.
It's so, so good. Worth noting that it has DLSS support too, so it runs great on 30 series cards. I hope more classic shooters get handcrafted RTX mods like this... imagine Duke 3D or Blood with ray tracing...
Runs like butter on my 3060 with DLSS set to quality. I would LOVE a Duke 3D, Blood, Hexen, Heretic RT conversion. I would even go far as to say I'd love a Descent 1 and 2 RT version. I know we have Overload but it isn't the same.
ive got a RTX 3080 and it ran really badly for me sadly, not too sure why, it was beautiful though, but the struggle of running Doom takes me right back to when we couldnt run original on my 386 haha! But any suggestions of setting that will get it running better would be most appreciated
I'm amazed how far the voxelized enemies have come. I remember that mod from many years back. I was casually watching this vid and only realized in the end they werent sprites lol. Great job!
There is nothing wrong with raytracing per se, it can create stunningly and realistic looking graphics. Sadly a lot of developers think that it looks realistically if water reflects like a liquid mirror of mercury, moist walls look like they are covered in baby oil and to have totally exaggerated lighting everywhere, which kills any sense of realism that raytraycing would have otherwise provided.
if there was a way to adjust the intensity of some lights and shadows, it'd be nice i just always feels like too much of these fancy lights can ruin a bit of the mood and art style of the og but it is impressive of course, that this is available in an old game like Doom still, i'd probably pass on it because too much is too much for me
I kinda wonder what it would look like if the resolution of the lights was limited to the texel density of the surface it's being projected on, I think that might look cool and also fit in with the game way more
It's still *SO* weird for me to see just how far Doom has come over the past 30 years or whatever. 💪😎✌️ I hope people try ray-tracing with "Darkhell" and "Blakhell" (two entire episodes I made back in 1996 or whatever). Fun stuff! ⚔️🔥⚔️
It's a lot better than most attempts to raytrace older games but I don't like how overly dark it is, adding in some extra ambient light (proportionate to the sector light level) would go a long way here
@@rskriver sorry in advance if you're trolling. he's a dude on youtube who plays retro shooters. he's a cranky purist and complains about shit a lot even though he's not really good at anything and his takes are mid at best. he's a become a fixture in the retro shooter community via brute force alone.
Feels a bit like a programmer just really wanted to make fancy ray-tracing stuff happen. And did. Impressively. But they were a programmer so they didn't really inject lighting that matched the aesthetic. The disco balls of the imps being disco balls and not hellfire being a prime example.
This looks amazing, but to be fair, this "bloom" effect is a bit too much. It is a bit like HDR photography: It is stunning, bright, straight-in-your-face and makes you go "Wow!!". But if you think about it for a second, it's exeggerated a lot. That is like turning up the colour level of your TV to +100 and go like "Look dem colours!!". My bedroom ceiling light does not make my room/vision foggy or "bloomy" if you get what I mean, or looking into a sunset doesn't make smog appear..
Very cool. The one thing I continue to hope to see in modern games is specifically that effects are light sources. It's like, the only thing I reallllly want. Spells, kabooms, sci-fi weird stuff to all cast lights upon being used and actually have shadows. It looks so good on those bullets and stuff in the mod.
These visuals remind me of the mid-2000's when everybody was overdoing the bloom effects. Half of the time the light-bleed looks blurry, like you're in a steamy sauna. This look got old and stigmatized, and is typically viewed as a signature novelty of it's time. But apparently it's cool AF again now, because it's done with RTX, and RTX is the new thing. Until the world catches up and the RTX-craze settles, the people who aren't a fan are "probably just secretly crying over not having RTX capable hardware". Eventually this effect will either get shelved or toned down and used sparingly. It's amusing to watch history repeat itself. That's what I think, since you're asking. 😂
Yes! I thought the same thing. Everything is wet and shiny, dark areas are pitch black and bright areas are just way too bright. At this point I really don't see a reason to bother with RTX. Not until the developers learn how to make a balanced picture.
@@TitoffSky88had a fight with someone in another thread after I offered some constructive criticism. The main problem is I think lights need to scatter more. There are a lot of areas where the whole room is pitch black save for a tiny little light source in the middle acting more like a spotlight than a true torch that bathes the room in a glow. I’m not knocking the dev’s work no one else is doing it but it could be improved. I think he may have intended it to be such a harsh contrast for the spook factor though.
I do not in fact have the hardware to play it, but if I find any video of someone doing a full playthrough I will definitely watch it. Looks absolutely beautiful.
The ray tracing is causing vertical lines, columns, and rows of voxel to be highlighted and overemphasized. It uses lighting to specifically draw your attention to the most negative aspect of voxels, forcing you to notice problems where you wouldn't otherwise see a problem. It looks bad and ruins the voxel models. I don't want to look at a bunch of "columns" and "rows"
I agree,however the tradeoff is that objec ts can be lit somewhat accurately at all. I'd love to see this with the regular 2d sprites but I don't know if it's possible to come up with a good solution for cast shadows.
This is great. In 25 years time we mgiht be able to play Cyberpunk and No Mans Sky with raytracing! Only ... nobody will want to. Cos they'll all still be playing Doom 2.
1994- I was sitting in comp programming IV class.. Instead of hacking into the School's Database... I Instead installed Doom 2.... 2024-- "What's your pleasure?"
While these raytrace mods are technically impressive, I find them most of them (including this) to be overblown and rather ugly to be honest. The first thing that sticks out to me is how dark everything is until its illuminated by a clown light explosion. I can see a horror-themed fan WAD using this to it's strengths, but otherwise.... ehhhhhh.
@@KudoRedfox 'Dark' Doom is a valid interpretation of the material, but probably best if it's actually designed with that in mind. And in cases like Doom 64 or Doom 3, I don't they're dark to the extent that they wash out visual clarity. But that's all I see in this video. Coupled with the extreme colored lighting, it just becomes a mess. I wouldn't mind some WADs designed with this look in mind. But backporting it to classic maps just looks 'overjuiced'.
@@Dalupa I agree with some effects being obnoxious and can be tuned down but it seems mostly from Doom's engine can't really handle 256 color and tends to be overly colorful
I'm not sure how I feel about it. When trying to enhance older games with very simple visuals there's a fine line between building on older limitions and adding extra guff that overwhelms or clashes with the original art. This mod seems to riding right on that line. Some of the darker areas look fantastic, just the sort of moody atmosphere that you'd imagine for an infested facility with only emergency functions still working. On the other hand the bizzarely reflective water and ugly bloom/fog effect in outdoor areas remind me more of minecraft with too many shaders installed instead of a doom. I'd probably really like a more restrained version of this.
Man. I was around when it came out. I got lucky and a (then) friend bought me a PC to play it on. And still to this day, it looks so good. They got so much right with the game, and it was so revolutionary. It's not hyperbole to state that it was a dream come true, and there was nothing like it at the time (outside of other i.D games like Wolfenstein 3D). And opening it up to modders was such a good idea.
Not a fan of this. The lights look WAYYYYY too washed out, and there's too much bloom. The dangling lights also look very out of place, and I noticed a few textures that should have lighting that don't.
RTX theoretically works like real lighting, but is often executed in such a garrish and unrealistic way. They need to match the lighting of the original, otherwise it all looks dark with cartoonish bloom and overly reflective water.
At long last, the voxel mod and ray tracing mod can play together. Honestly, throw in the Corruption Card mod and I'll probably never need to play any other game in my life
Man I'm so behind on so many tings but this looks awesome. It's so clear without looking cartoonish and that lighting is amazing. I just need a doom builder that has all this baked in for me to lose a few years over lol
Not the only one. I really hate the use of full bright fog to create the fake bloom effect. It's the worst way to create a bloom effect, and just makes everything visually look terrible.
I really dislike it as well, but I'm not a fan of slapping RT on classic games, so I'm probably not the best person to ask. Seeing this brought back back memories of playing games with too much bloom in the year of our lord 2006.
Thanks for the tip, this is so such fun! Haven't played Doom II since the 90's, but what a trip down to memory lane.. with some shiny new wow moments ofc 🖤
I'm usually not a purist or anything, and I can enjoy a good remaster with a modernized look, but all the footage i'm seeing here looks gaudy and stupid to me. There are some effects that just don't work with some games. Here, the ray tracing seems to actually be fighting against the game to make it worse. I'ts all a matter of tastes of course, and more power to people who enjoy that stuff, but persponally, I find it misplaced and trashy, and a huge waste of time and effort. I'm pretty sure most people will try if for a session or two, then stop using it altogether once the novelty wears off.
Its looking nice and i understand ppl who likes it but theres also the dark doom mod who keep it vanilla while still adding a darker ambiance. Very creepy specially when you turn music off
Doom is a great game, but visually this is polishing a turd. Don't get me wrong I like the art of Doom and style. The ultra realism light and reflections conflicts with the art imo.
This looks terrible the bright lights make the environments look like shiny plastic and the bloom combined with the shitty blood effects. Doom II needs a full 3D conversion mod not this
Seriously. This ray tracing mod feels like what a true remaster of doom should be. Still the original underneath but full of modern tech upgrades like ray tracing and what have you. Bravo.
I always preferd the mix of a bit cluttered and well updated enviorments i.e. more detailed spaces and good enough lightinf tricks, sorta like what CS 2 does or what Doom3 did.
AKA, Bloooooom. Really guys, when will this ray tracing madness stop? What i'm seeing It basically bloom effects and glassy surfaces. My eyes hurt just looking at it. It's like i'm in a disco.
If you're "basically" only seeing that your brain is too basic to understand the concept of ray tracing and how it is the future of videogame lighting.
@@thedeegee1601 yeah, i'm too basic to understand that ray tracing is the lazy programmers way of adding light/shadows to a game. It's basically a brute force technology that existed ages ago but only now can it be properly used because machines got sufficiently powerful to do that. It's no innovation. In fact, innovation is what developers used to do to get around the issue.
This looks really amazing, love the fact that RTXremix is also included as a bonus but is in kinda rough buggy shape right now, honestly it would be great to have someone adapt their mod to work with this
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I personally love the voxel look with the modern lighting. Enhanced the mood without messing the original textures, I love this
Amid Evil might be up your fancy
They look too much like Minecraft models now. Can't say I'm a big fan of the way the voxel models look with raytracing.
@@EnigmaHood they're literally based on the sprites and are as such way different from Minecraft models wth
@@EnigmaHood nah... minecraft is much simpler... this way doom now is fully 3D but retains the pixelated look
@@LazyJesse You didn't understand what I wrote, I know they're based on the sprites, I'm saying the raytracing makes them look too much like Minecraft models. It's a problem with the lighting, not the models.
The fact that people are still creating mods for Doom II after 30 years really shows how strong the gameplay is. It’s a true testament to the game's lasting appeal.
Is a shame that it's mod is bad for Doom II.
@@IncognitoActivado could you elaborate? It doesn't change gameplay AFAIK?
@@KitchenGuy The artstyle, dude, the artstyle.
@@IncognitoActivado Oh, okay! I personally like how they kept most of the art-style intact and added just a couple of raytraced surfaces. Maybe it'll draw younger people to the game with the novel flashy visuals and they stay for the gameplay and mods.
@@KitchenGuy "Maybe it'll draw younger people to the game with the novel flashy visuals and they stay for the gameplay and mods."
Good games don't need that crap to be found, so no.
Usually these RTX modes are pretty bad, this one looks amazing though.
Runs gloriously on a 4090
@@Truthtrax no shit, i'd certainly hope it would run nicely on a 4090
@@Truthtraxthis was just a flex so you could let everyone know you have a 4090
@@Truthtrax Ok it's nice, but it's not like you have a Porsche 918, get off your high horses and be more subtle and less tasteless
@@Truthtrax 4090 would be nice but I need money for living
Looks really nice.
I like the fact that not everything looks ‘wet’, something you see with most of the ‘modern looking’ mods.
The combination with Voxel Doom is also very very nice
That's the magic of proper PBR materials.
Stuff that used the Doom 3 engine had a really bad habit of looking moist all the time. I'm happy to see that being scaled back a bit here.
Pass; Doom II looks really odd with raytracing.
@@thedeegee1601 Whatever you say, eye-candy fanboy.
@@IncognitoActivadothat's like, sooo your opinion "boy".
2:27 Lmao the sewer count from Civvie 11
I also checked his video, it's truly the 31st sewer level in his serie
Haha, nice! I knew that was a Civvie reference but never would have guessed the number was exact!
Another proof that lighting is the biggest element of graphics. You can have 30 year old textures and geometry detail, sprite/voxel blocky enemies and still have good graphics if your lighting simulation is good. Same as Minecraft shaders
Well, doom had good graphics without ray tracing :) great artwork and style is what matters
Lighting is the biggest element in anything looking beautiful. . .the position of the sun can make anything look either beautiful or stone cold ugly. . .
@@macandbernto add, flash photography can make something look really uncomfortable
Next step Doom 3 RTX
That sounds awesome, Especially with the atmosphere of doom 3, I'd love to see how that turns out, especially in the outdoors areas in mars
That would be so dope
Just need a mod to fix the shotgun and we're golden
@@nisnast -dope-
@@nisnast And some duct tape
That’s my fav doom. Love the horror aspect of it.
The blood effects are goofy, but I found out, that Nash's Gore mod works with this version - you just have to drop the wad file on the Doom RT launcher, and the game runs with it. It looks great.
Sadly, no other wads seem to work this way. Playing Sunlust or Ancient Aliens with RT would be amazing.
When you say "Drop the wad on the Doom RT launcher" can you elaborate? Do you need to add extra commands to the .exe or something? The fluid simulation is super silly IMO and I would greatly prefer to run Nash's gore mod.
@@PunishedOne I wish I could tell you in detail, but YT keeps deleting my comment over and over again...
Drag and drop the nash pk mod file onto the gzdoom application in the mod folder.
I imagine if you tried to run Sunlust with these mods then your computer would be dropping the WAD on you
Doom RT is bad, so no.
Mod seems to involve a lot lot of added texture maps and custom-place light sources, so I imagine it wouldn't have much of an effect or look all that great with other map WADs. Some WADs already have issues with GZDoom's advanced lighting options.
This looks way better than I expected. I think the voxel models are a big part of it, and the hanging light bulbs and colored lights to make sure the levels are lit appropriately. It keeps a Doom feel while massively upgrading the rendering tech, which is really hard to do and usually comes out as an ugly mismatch.
This mod makes Doom look exactly how I REMEMBER it looking back in the 90s when I first got my mind blown and how amazing Doom looked.
Was that Doom 64 on the N64?
strongly agree, good remasters make me feel the same way
The plasma gun lighting up the room is amazing.
3:49 HELL KNIGHTS SPOTTED. THIS MAN IS NOT PLAYING ON UV 🗣🗣❗‼
yeah I threw up in my mouth after seeing that
Caught in 4k by the UV gang.
Absolutely sickening
Subscribing just so I can unsubscribe over this.
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Im really curious to see Hexen and Heretic with a similar moody lighting.
Hexen was already scary (at least when I was a child). It would be hardcore horror with those kinds of graphics and I want to see it.
I would love that....would be so dark Gothic and scary
Remember: this game is 31 years old and we still love it like the first day we saw it
Some marriages don't even last half or a quarter that long
3:44 John Carmack: “I told you so! I TOLD YOU SO!”
edit: looks like I inadvertently started a mini flame war, just like ye olden interwebz times XD
exactly what I was thinking! John makes great doom 3 game with epic lighting for the time and nobody cares. suddenly raytracing is a thing and everyone loses their shit!
@@CyberPunk-ow3gi Doom 3 lighting and ray tracing are so far apart they might as well as be different planes of existence.
@@Wr41thgu4rd you're missing the point Melvin
@@CyberPunk-ow3giDoom 3 isn’t great and expecting people to think it’s great because of its admittedly impressive lighting is very silly
@@citizen3000 it was a major thing when it was in development. There were whole write-ups in magazines about how amazing the lighting and shadows were and how much work went into it and how it pushed technology. Sorry you weren't there for it.
30 years from now we're still going to be playing Doom with all the latest effect of that time. Hope I'm still around to see it.
I wonder how Cheello, the maker of Voxel Doom project, feels how his exhausting and extensive work is being used probably the most optimal way possible. First being so compatible with VR, and now having RT on top of it?
I'm glad we have the guy in the community, but we aren't worthy of him. He did such and amazing job.
Heck, if he looks at this and isn't satisfied from seeing the rough edges of this and decides to do a revamp on the job by 1.5x or even 2x the pixel density of the voxels, that would be crazy.
I think the Voxel models look much worse with RT on them. They all look like Minecraft models with this. I can't be the only one that sees this...
Cheello is the shit, watching his timelapse videos is like comfort food for me.
@@EnigmaHood I agree. The more contrasting light conditions really accentuating the shadows and highlights around all the square angles just ends up breaking the cohesion by introducing all this noise within the shapes of the models.
@@EnigmaHoodWhen I look at it, I see Paranautical Activity.
...does anyone else even remember that game existed nowadays?
yep needs upscaling
It's so, so good. Worth noting that it has DLSS support too, so it runs great on 30 series cards. I hope more classic shooters get handcrafted RTX mods like this... imagine Duke 3D or Blood with ray tracing...
Hmm wonder how it will be on my PC...got the RTX 2070
Runs like butter on my 3060 with DLSS set to quality. I would LOVE a Duke 3D, Blood, Hexen, Heretic RT conversion. I would even go far as to say I'd love a Descent 1 and 2 RT version. I know we have Overload but it isn't the same.
ive got a RTX 3080 and it ran really badly for me sadly, not too sure why, it was beautiful though, but the struggle of running Doom takes me right back to when we couldnt run original on my 386 haha!
But any suggestions of setting that will get it running better would be most appreciated
Wow, I've been constantly amazed by Doom source ports and mods since the 90s and I love that it just keeps going.
When you have full 360 mouselook you don’t need to be standing on the platform to shoot the Icon of Sin. You can just aim into its weak point.
I'm amazed how far the voxelized enemies have come. I remember that mod from many years back. I was casually watching this vid and only realized in the end they werent sprites lol. Great job!
There is nothing wrong with raytracing per se, it can create stunningly and realistic looking graphics. Sadly a lot of developers think that it looks realistically if water reflects like a liquid mirror of mercury, moist walls look like they are covered in baby oil and to have totally exaggerated lighting everywhere, which kills any sense of realism that raytraycing would have otherwise provided.
if there was a way to adjust the intensity of some lights and shadows, it'd be nice
i just always feels like too much of these fancy lights can ruin a bit of the mood and art style of the og
but it is impressive of course, that this is available in an old game like Doom
still, i'd probably pass on it because too much is too much for me
I kinda wonder what it would look like if the resolution of the lights was limited to the texel density of the surface it's being projected on, I think that might look cool and also fit in with the game way more
It's still *SO* weird for me to see just how far Doom has come over the past 30 years or whatever. 💪😎✌️ I hope people try ray-tracing with "Darkhell" and "Blakhell" (two entire episodes I made back in 1996 or whatever). Fun stuff! ⚔️🔥⚔️
my pc will fly, and it will die.
its just a green pc from a green farm, please do not Harm it
Worth it
I was not expecting a pilotredsun reference lol
The Lost soul and plasma shots look absolutely gorgeous. I might take a look at it.
It's a lot better than most attempts to raytrace older games but I don't like how overly dark it is, adding in some extra ambient light (proportionate to the sector light level) would go a long way here
Now need a flashlight in dark spaces
We all know Doom Guy can't duct tape.
and a fleshlight for the sexy demons!
This looks nearly perfect. That skybox could use a touch up.
"Let's make classic doom fucking dark like Doom 3!"
2:30 Ironic that the modder put an Easter egg for Civvie when Civvie notoriously hates raytracing in boomer shooters and will never play this mod
having fun > being a grumpy ass
That's the joke
That's the joke (2)
Who?
@@rskriver sorry in advance if you're trolling. he's a dude on youtube who plays retro shooters. he's a cranky purist and complains about shit a lot even though he's not really good at anything and his takes are mid at best. he's a become a fixture in the retro shooter community via brute force alone.
I wish Marathon could get something like this. Running around a drifting space ship with scary aliens lurking in the dark.
Wow! It's incredible how much better a game can look with good lighting. This is really well done :)
Tried this earlier this week, looks really good. The enhanced (optional) blood though... it's a tad excessive but still glorious in a weird way!
What's the option called? Can't find it to turn it ON.
@@quadpicturesfluid. you need to make a dll to turn it off if you want to play on amd cards
Feels a bit like a programmer just really wanted to make fancy ray-tracing stuff happen. And did. Impressively. But they were a programmer so they didn't really inject lighting that matched the aesthetic. The disco balls of the imps being disco balls and not hellfire being a prime example.
This looks amazing, but to be fair, this "bloom" effect is a bit too much. It is a bit like HDR photography: It is stunning, bright, straight-in-your-face and makes you go "Wow!!". But if you think about it for a second, it's exeggerated a lot. That is like turning up the colour level of your TV to +100 and go like "Look dem colours!!". My bedroom ceiling light does not make my room/vision foggy or "bloomy" if you get what I mean, or looking into a sunset doesn't make smog appear..
Or the gloss effect applied to everything during the PS360 era.
Very cool. The one thing I continue to hope to see in modern games is specifically that effects are light sources. It's like, the only thing I reallllly want. Spells, kabooms, sci-fi weird stuff to all cast lights upon being used and actually have shadows. It looks so good on those bullets and stuff in the mod.
These visuals remind me of the mid-2000's when everybody was overdoing the bloom effects. Half of the time the light-bleed looks blurry, like you're in a steamy sauna. This look got old and stigmatized, and is typically viewed as a signature novelty of it's time. But apparently it's cool AF again now, because it's done with RTX, and RTX is the new thing. Until the world catches up and the RTX-craze settles, the people who aren't a fan are "probably just secretly crying over not having RTX capable hardware".
Eventually this effect will either get shelved or toned down and used sparingly. It's amusing to watch history repeat itself.
That's what I think, since you're asking. 😂
I like the RTX effect, but I turned off bloom as soon as I launched the mod XD
Blown out highlights too.
Yes! I thought the same thing. Everything is wet and shiny, dark areas are pitch black and bright areas are just way too bright. At this point I really don't see a reason to bother with RTX. Not until the developers learn how to make a balanced picture.
Thanks for sharing, oldtimer. I remember too.
@@TitoffSky88had a fight with someone in another thread after I offered some constructive criticism. The main problem is I think lights need to scatter more. There are a lot of areas where the whole room is pitch black save for a tiny little light source in the middle acting more like a spotlight than a true torch that bathes the room in a glow. I’m not knocking the dev’s work no one else is doing it but it could be improved. I think he may have intended it to be such a harsh contrast for the spook factor though.
Old school GL light models with shadow maps, reflection maps would look almost identical. Doesn't really show off what ray tracing can do IMHO.
And it's not the ridiculous "high res" texture pack. Damn I hate that...
I do not in fact have the hardware to play it, but if I find any video of someone doing a full playthrough I will definitely watch it. Looks absolutely beautiful.
SgtMarkIV better add a raytracing option to Brutal Doom now. Imagine the chaos that would ensue...
*Warning. Your PC is now on fire and is actively summoning Lost Souls.*
Man, that would be so cool!
@@BPKPhoenix💀
Play a better mod, I beg of you
Raytracing in BD-specific campaigns like Extermination Day and Final Carnage would be crazy
Bro this looks amazing. Doom+Doom 2 will live on for eternity because of mods continuously breathing life into these classics.
Now all that's missing is 3D without glasses !
just take a ride on a bus^^
@@Hunne2303 ruclips.net/video/GjBXY9_K9mw/видео.html
1:42 Duken Nuken was here 😎
The ray tracing is causing vertical lines, columns, and rows of voxel to be highlighted and overemphasized. It uses lighting to specifically draw your attention to the most negative aspect of voxels, forcing you to notice problems where you wouldn't otherwise see a problem. It looks bad and ruins the voxel models. I don't want to look at a bunch of "columns" and "rows"
Yeah, it makes the models look much jaggier than they should.
I agree,however the tradeoff is that objec ts can be lit somewhat accurately at all. I'd love to see this with the regular 2d sprites but I don't know if it's possible to come up with a good solution for cast shadows.
No no, Icarus: they got Doom 2 running on ray tracing...not ray tracing running on Doom 2...
Makes me excited for Doom 64 with Ray tracing. Also what was that song?
This is the comment I came here to see
Back in 93 when i was 6 years old, all I wanted was a doom port with Ray tracing. Now my dreams have been answered. I can die in peace.
This is great. In 25 years time we mgiht be able to play Cyberpunk and No Mans Sky with raytracing! Only ... nobody will want to. Cos they'll all still be playing Doom 2.
I knew quake 2 had rtx but i didnt known Doom had ray tracing.
As the saying goes "just because you can, doesn't mean you should"
Looks INSANE!
Pc gonna be fuckIng boiling after that :)
it does... it takes my 4090 to the full watt consumption...
@@geort45 Same with my 4080 Super. DLSS3 w/ Frame Gen never seen it pull so many watts.
@@nothingelse1520 I'm going to try it on my 1660 Super...
@@CyberPunk-ow3gi good luck. Dunno if it will run
be -fuckIng- boiling
1994- I was sitting in comp programming IV class.. Instead of hacking into the School's Database... I Instead installed Doom 2....
2024-- "What's your pleasure?"
While these raytrace mods are technically impressive, I find them most of them (including this) to be overblown and rather ugly to be honest. The first thing that sticks out to me is how dark everything is until its illuminated by a clown light explosion.
I can see a horror-themed fan WAD using this to it's strengths, but otherwise.... ehhhhhh.
Doom is supposed to be dark, like PSX port or 64
@@KudoRedfox 'Dark' Doom is a valid interpretation of the material, but probably best if it's actually designed with that in mind. And in cases like Doom 64 or Doom 3, I don't they're dark to the extent that they wash out visual clarity. But that's all I see in this video. Coupled with the extreme colored lighting, it just becomes a mess.
I wouldn't mind some WADs designed with this look in mind. But backporting it to classic maps just looks 'overjuiced'.
@@Dalupa I agree with some effects being obnoxious and can be tuned down but it seems mostly from Doom's engine can't really handle 256 color and tends to be overly colorful
I'm not sure how I feel about it. When trying to enhance older games with very simple visuals there's a fine line between building on older limitions and adding extra guff that overwhelms or clashes with the original art. This mod seems to riding right on that line. Some of the darker areas look fantastic, just the sort of moody atmosphere that you'd imagine for an infested facility with only emergency functions still working. On the other hand the bizzarely reflective water and ugly bloom/fog effect in outdoor areas remind me more of minecraft with too many shaders installed instead of a doom. I'd probably really like a more restrained version of this.
what's the background music?
Man. I was around when it came out. I got lucky and a (then) friend bought me a PC to play it on.
And still to this day, it looks so good.
They got so much right with the game, and it was so revolutionary. It's not hyperbole to state that it was a dream come true, and there was nothing like it at the time (outside of other i.D games like Wolfenstein 3D).
And opening it up to modders was such a good idea.
What was that intro music. It's got some bop to it
I also would like to know this sounds amazing!
@@EduardoDiscaciate He uploaded it to his soundcloud, "Hell To Pay"
@@QueenFiria tanks! Can't find it with just the song's name. Do you know the name of the artist?
@@EduardoDiscaciate click the guys soundcloud in the description. The video maker made it.
This looks great actually
Not a fan of this. The lights look WAYYYYY too washed out, and there's too much bloom. The dangling lights also look very out of place, and I noticed a few textures that should have lighting that don't.
I'll admit, it looks kinda weird with vanilla DooM, but I'm willing to bet Total Conversion modders will LOVE this.
RTX theoretically works like real lighting, but is often executed in such a garrish and unrealistic way. They need to match the lighting of the original, otherwise it all looks dark with cartoonish bloom and overly reflective water.
Totally true.
Hot damn that the voxel doom with RTX just looks absolutely fabulous
What is the music in this video called?
Running Ray Tracing Doom without at least smooth weapon mod looks strange.
At long last, the voxel mod and ray tracing mod can play together. Honestly, throw in the Corruption Card mod and I'll probably never need to play any other game in my life
UAC indeed needs to be saving on the electricity bills XD
All this effort and the blood is not voxelized...
Man I'm so behind on so many tings but this looks awesome. It's so clear without looking cartoonish and that lighting is amazing. I just need a doom builder that has all this baked in for me to lose a few years over lol
Am I the only one that hates all the extremely bright lights? I think it looks terrible. Painfully bright, even.
Not the only one. I really hate the use of full bright fog to create the fake bloom effect. It's the worst way to create a bloom effect, and just makes everything visually look terrible.
I really dislike it as well, but I'm not a fan of slapping RT on classic games, so I'm probably not the best person to ask. Seeing this brought back back memories of playing games with too much bloom in the year of our lord 2006.
Yeah, I think its quite jarring to watch. Don't think I'd enjoy playing it. Interesting to see though.
This looks like how I would expect Doom to look if they made like a Halo combat evolved anniversary or a Metroid Prime remaster version of Doom.
Same as with rtlights and as usual 99% starting rtx ports, completely unplayable in current form
It looks so, so good with Smooth Doom added. Small, but beautiful touch.
PSX Doom had moody lighting in 95 and didn't require a supercomputer from the future to run.
PSX Doom Wins.
No one is gonna want to go PS1 version for 240p 20fps on a controller when we have a 1000fps engine cap PC game with a massive amount more continent.
The best way to play Doom is the one I have with me. And I can play Doom with fancy lighting on a $30 handheld.
damn they brought back 00s colored lights and reflective surfaces. looks like shit
Can it run Nuts.WAD?
It only works with DOOM 2 itself.
Crazy light sources on terminals. "It's ray traced".
as if GZDoom wasn't laggy enough
Thanks for the tip, this is so such fun! Haven't played Doom II since the 90's, but what a trip down to memory lane.. with some shiny new wow moments ofc 🖤
ID should licence it or hire the modders. This has great potential on consoles.
NINTENDO
HIRE THIS MAN
@@l.e.a.d.761HE'S USING UNREAL ENGINE
IN ANY WAY HE CAN
omg the the lighting is so pleasing to watch
I'm usually not a purist or anything, and I can enjoy a good remaster with a modernized look, but all the footage i'm seeing here looks gaudy and stupid to me.
There are some effects that just don't work with some games. Here, the ray tracing seems to actually be fighting against the game to make it worse.
I'ts all a matter of tastes of course, and more power to people who enjoy that stuff, but persponally, I find it misplaced and trashy, and a huge waste of time and effort.
I'm pretty sure most people will try if for a session or two, then stop using it altogether once the novelty wears off.
Its looking nice and i understand ppl who likes it but theres also the dark doom mod who keep it vanilla while still adding a darker ambiance. Very creepy specially when you turn music off
True.
Doom is a great game, but visually this is polishing a turd. Don't get me wrong I like the art of Doom and style. The ultra realism light and reflections conflicts with the art imo.
This looks terrible the bright lights make the environments look like shiny plastic and the bloom combined with the shitty blood effects. Doom II needs a full 3D conversion mod not this
That's a funny way to say "gilding the lily"
Seriously. This ray tracing mod feels like what a true remaster of doom should be. Still the original underneath but full of modern tech upgrades like ray tracing and what have you. Bravo.
I never vibed with this raytracing hypetrain...
it's super blown out
No, just no. I think raytracing combined with those pixelated textures and blocky levels looks off. Everything should be redone accordingly.
True and true.
Wow this is really good. I wasn't expecting this level of visuals when I clicked.
nah im sorry this doesn't look very good
like yes very pretty lighting but i wouldn't actually use it
exactly
Some people got mad at Brutal Doom too when it got popular. It’s just nice to have options
I always preferd the mix of a bit cluttered and well updated enviorments i.e. more detailed spaces and good enough lightinf tricks, sorta like what CS 2 does or what Doom3 did.
AKA, Bloooooom. Really guys, when will this ray tracing madness stop? What i'm seeing It basically bloom effects and glassy surfaces. My eyes hurt just looking at it. It's like i'm in a disco.
You can turn off bloom.
If you're "basically" only seeing that your brain is too basic to understand the concept of ray tracing and how it is the future of videogame lighting.
@@thedeegee1601 yeah, i'm too basic to understand that ray tracing is the lazy programmers way of adding light/shadows to a game. It's basically a brute force technology that existed ages ago but only now can it be properly used because machines got sufficiently powerful to do that. It's no innovation. In fact, innovation is what developers used to do to get around the issue.
Bloody Ketchup mod works beautifully with this.
You get that extra gory bloody effect that works well with the voxels.
Imagine If Ashes had raytracing
This looks really amazing, love the fact that RTXremix is also included as a bonus but is in kinda rough buggy shape right now, honestly it would be great to have someone adapt their mod to work with this
looks way too dark
Shoutout to the UAC deploying and using incandescent and florescent lighting in the not so distant future.