The Original Quake Gets A Full RT Upgrade - And It's Incredible

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  • Опубликовано: 25 ноя 2024

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  • @mstewart248
    @mstewart248 2 года назад +511

    You can edit just about every aspect of the lighting in this release. You can change the color of the acid water. I made it more green and transparent. You can also had your own light definitions. I changed Rt_globallightmult from 10 to 1 and added my own light definitions for materials that show have been emissive and got my game to look a lot better than the default. You can change the grendades to give off small red light instead of super bright white light.

    • @Noodle_F
      @Noodle_F 2 года назад +36

      are these changes stored in a config file? Can you share a list of yours?

    • @colbyboucher6391
      @colbyboucher6391 2 года назад +20

      Very cool, I was thinking the amount of light being cast around made things a little too bright vs. Quake's very dark atmosphere.

    • @SteelTumbleweed
      @SteelTumbleweed 2 года назад +11

      The more egregious thing about the toxic water is that it doesn't have the same emissive property that the lava and sky does, making it seem like it's stuck on an old non-path trace aware lighting method.

    • @firstsurname2388
      @firstsurname2388 2 года назад +21

      @@ramonandrajo6348 Not really lmao, take Lego Movie for example. The world is built up with simple flat blocks and flat colours with no detail, even more simple and limited than the original quake, but the realistic lighting makes it a visually stunning animated movie. This Quake mod is no different, saying otherwise is a supremely bad take.

    • @firstsurname2388
      @firstsurname2388 2 года назад +5

      @@philmahooters Not really lmao, take Lego Movie for example. The world is built up with simple flat blocks and flat colours with no detail, even more simple and limited than the original quake, but the realistic lighting makes it a visually stunning animated movie. This Quake mod is no different, saying otherwise is a supremely bad take.

  • @TiborMiklosAE
    @TiborMiklosAE 2 года назад +478

    My only complaint is the lava texture is not moving in the Ray-Traced version. I assume this subtle thing can be fixed very easily. Huge props to the creators, it looks amazing!

    • @giovannifranco6255
      @giovannifranco6255 2 года назад +58

      @@ramonandrajo6348 Or.....its a great way for devs to get their feet wet/get experience/figure out new processes/etc

    • @dodgyhodgyo4
      @dodgyhodgyo4 2 года назад +25

      @@giovannifranco6255 And it looks absolutely phenomenal.

    • @TerraWare
      @TerraWare 2 года назад +12

      @@giovannifranco6255 Yeah this stuff's pretty cool. It was made by someone that was passionate about it and to share that with the world and have people appreciate it and than Digital Foundry pick up on it has to be quite fulfilling. It's what keeps the modders going, the feedback and creativity. Can't wait for that thing Nvidia showed where they modded Morrowind (forget what it's called) but that was pretty cool.

    • @BaconJets
      @BaconJets 2 года назад +12

      @@ramonandrajo6348 Explain that "nope". How is it not a good way for devs to experiment with the tech? Or are you just a troll who we shouldn't listen to?

    • @nelly411
      @nelly411 2 года назад +4

      @@TerraWare RTX Remix..? I think its been delayed till early next year though Q1 2023, so the original idea I believe was to have it out with the release of Portal RTX I'm just as excited for that feature in Omniverse as well.

  • @Stef3m
    @Stef3m 2 года назад +80

    7:08 such a shame they didn't place a light source (like sky) behind the glass, it would have look so neat

    • @JFinns
      @JFinns 2 года назад +5

      They still might, although there hasn't been an update out for this since 1.01 a couple months ago.

    • @mikeg2491
      @mikeg2491 2 года назад

      @@JFinns if it’s like doom raytraced it probably wont get one, I think the dev likes to move on to new stuff constantly than refine things.

    • @JFinns
      @JFinns 2 года назад

      ​@@mikeg2491 Yea looks that way, think he has been hitting all the open source engines with RT.

    • @doctor_gee
      @doctor_gee 2 года назад +2

      This wasn't the best example, there are plenty of in-game examples where they are backlit from a different room etc. It looks amazing :)

    • @alvallac2171
      @alvallac2171 6 месяцев назад

      *Such
      *glass. It (to fix your comma splice run-on)
      *neat.

  • @mattdavisgames
    @mattdavisgames 2 года назад +46

    I actually like how most of the materials are still diffuse-only, I think it keeps the style more intact than converting them all to PBR.

    • @alvallac2171
      @alvallac2171 6 месяцев назад

      *diffuse-only. It (to fix your comma splice run-on)

  • @superjetze
    @superjetze 2 года назад +97

    I wasn't really onboard the ray tracing train for older games but this one looks pretty cool. I think another good fit would be Thief: The Dark Project.

    • @EMB3D
      @EMB3D 2 года назад

      spot on, thief should be the next

    • @ShadowMKII
      @ShadowMKII 2 года назад +16

      Would love to see that for the original Deus Ex, too. I'd love to see both games given this treatment. :)

    • @vincentjohnson7175
      @vincentjohnson7175 2 года назад +14

      System Shock 2 would feel so atmospheric with a path tracing mod as well.

    • @ShadowMKII
      @ShadowMKII 2 года назад +3

      @@vincentjohnson7175 Agreed. :)

    • @alexblackmore7744
      @alexblackmore7744 2 года назад +7

      It would look good, but it would arguably break the game due to how the light and shadow mechanic works in-engine (unless you went for the halfway house that the classic RT renderer does here which would be really nice). For full on pathtracing of light sources you'd have to completely redesign the levels when it came to light source placement. Deus Ex and System Shock 2 would be ace though!

  • @ConcasicoWoodworks
    @ConcasicoWoodworks 2 года назад +52

    My favorite visual style for FPSs, low poly characters and textures with good lightning and shadows. It really reminds me of graphical demos from the late 90s and early 00s where you would have a simple geometrical shape with light and color reflecting on them

    • @damdor2608
      @damdor2608 2 года назад +2

      I remember first time I tried quake with my first graphics card (Helios3d) with 3dfx, was an epic graphical update :D

    • @Tortilla_Pizzeria_Pixels
      @Tortilla_Pizzeria_Pixels Год назад +1

      Amid Evil has got you there lol.

  • @paulkautz
    @paulkautz Год назад +3

    It's still difficult for me to comprehend that merely 30 years ago my then lightning-fast 486DX33 took about ten minutes to render a single picture in POVray at 320x200x256 - while now we're living in a world where fully raytraced games are rendered in realtime at 1080p60 and higher.
    The mind, it just boggles. What a time to be alive!

    • @lolmao500
      @lolmao500 Год назад

      It still takes minutes to render a single frame of 100% path traced render with a 4090. We're gonna need a bigger boat.

    • @TransoceanicOutreach
      @TransoceanicOutreach 5 месяцев назад

      POVray traces every pixel and does more calculation than modern realtime RT does. Games do a very rough estimate of a small amount of pixels, then use AI to estimate what 95% of the uncalculated rays would be. Hence the flickery mess when you look at the raw data.

  • @NicoSeymore
    @NicoSeymore 2 года назад +37

    Hey thanks for covering this! Try changing these settings in your cfg:
    rt_sun "2"
    rt_sky "2"
    rt_bloom_intensity "0.5"
    rt_volume_intensity "10"
    rt_volume_ambient "1.1"
    rt_bloom_emis_mult "25"
    rt_water_aciddensity "4"
    Every simpler modded map and the DLCs also work and theyre incredible with this.
    I also use an subtle crt reshade filter. its so awesome

    • @MetalJody1990
      @MetalJody1990 2 года назад +1

      Thank you! The sky lighting looks soooo much better now. I hated how it looked before.

    • @Mercuriusfm
      @Mercuriusfm 2 года назад +1

      hero

    • @NicoSeymore
      @NicoSeymore 2 года назад

      @@edmundroth6337 Its in your games ID1 folder or in the DLC/Mod folder if you use some of them

    • @NicoSeymore
      @NicoSeymore 2 года назад

      @@edmundroth6337 you can only use map packs that didnt alter the games base code, so the simpler ones only sadly so far. But there are really great ones too.

  • @Stepbackandsee01
    @Stepbackandsee01 2 года назад +93

    This is actually what we all think what Quake looked like while playing in 1996 =D Amazing

    • @yoruneko34
      @yoruneko34 2 года назад

      very true

    • @LiLBitsDK
      @LiLBitsDK 2 года назад +3

      yeah when we went from software render to Voodoo graphics :D this was what the change FELT like back then

    • @Psythik
      @Psythik 2 года назад +2

      Seriously; I was about to say that this looks pretty much how I remembered it, if not slightly worse. Mods like this are cool and all, but I'm wondering where all the *modern* ray-traced games are! I purposely waited for the 3rd gen of RTX GPUs before buying one, with the expectation that games would have more ray traced effects than they actually do at the moment. Unfortunately we're still not there yet. Games are still only adding one or two RTed effects at most, usually reflections and/or shadows. Oh well, at least I still have RTX Racer and Portal RTX to look forward to while I wait for game developers to get with the times...

    • @foulplay99
      @foulplay99 2 года назад +1

      Lol I played the original game in software mode and it looked like Minecraft. The 3dfx glide wrapper for the original voodoo cards made the game faster, but washed out. I remember it playing amazingly well with mouse look and 3dfx enabled, but nowhere near as good looking as this

    • @LiLBitsDK
      @LiLBitsDK 2 года назад

      @@foulplay99 it changed the lighting big time too and the resolution

  • @birchna
    @birchna 2 года назад +16

    Looks fantastic, wanted this more than I did Q2. Incredible what has been achieved with the original ~50MB of pak files!

    • @birchna
      @birchna 2 года назад

      @@ramonandrajo6348 played since before Quakeworld existed and 'pushlatency' was even a thing, but sure, troll away!

  • @reblaw89
    @reblaw89 2 года назад +68

    Now this need to be applied to Unreal 1998 too.

    • @JFinns
      @JFinns 2 года назад +9

      Probably can't be done easily. It's not open source like Quake engine (id Tech) is.

    • @DaxMarko
      @DaxMarko 2 года назад +2

      That would be so fucking sick. However there are Unreal remakes in general being worked on by the community, so we may get something a bit closer to Unreal with realistic lighting in near future.

    • @Franku40keks
      @Franku40keks 2 года назад +5

      Unreal already looks perfect, just use the DX10 renderer, slap on some antialiasing and you're golden.

    • @Digo-eu
      @Digo-eu 2 года назад

      @@Franku40keks you’re GOLD indeed

    • @ULTIMATEPATCHES
      @ULTIMATEPATCHES Год назад +1

      @@DaxMarko Unreal Redux is the one to watch for.

  • @ThiagoJaqueta
    @ThiagoJaqueta 2 года назад +100

    Ray-tracing with unfiltered low res textures looks so good.

    • @kevinleite6309
      @kevinleite6309 2 года назад +10

      Yes. This style remind me of a dead Microsoft game called "The last night" announced in E3 2017. Check the trailer if you like.

    • @Kleavers
      @Kleavers 2 года назад +3

      @@kevinleite6309 Damn it's a shame that never went anywhere. Trailer looked incredible.

    • @kevinleite6309
      @kevinleite6309 2 года назад

      @@Kleavers :/

    • @Drip7914
      @Drip7914 2 года назад +6

      @@ramonandrajo6348 cope more AMDelusional 🥱

    • @Drip7914
      @Drip7914 2 года назад +6

      @@ramonandrajo6348 yes I love when my games look better than they ever would on amd hardware 😍

  • @bbsonjohn
    @bbsonjohn 2 года назад +18

    I like most of the mod, with one of the exceptions is that actually I like the original tainted glass aesthetic more 7:14 . Maybe they should rework some light sources/incluide additional light sources to make to color patterns of the glasses more visible.

  • @nightmarezer0507
    @nightmarezer0507 2 года назад +45

    I do not understand why Nvidia picked Quake 2 to add RTX to. It baffles me why they skipped Quake 1. Quake 1 being a dark gritty game it just makes so much more sense.

    • @weirdscix
      @weirdscix 2 года назад +4

      Maybe for technical reasons, original Quake only supports GL1 and is a DOS game, while II supports upto 3.2 and is a Windows game, also Quake had a re-release in 2021

    • @nightmarezer0507
      @nightmarezer0507 2 года назад +2

      @@weirdscix Well there were source ports out they could have used as a base. DarkPlaces comes to mind.

    • @Wobbothe3rd
      @Wobbothe3rd 2 года назад +1

      @@nightmarezer0507 Carmack has recently explained that a lot of sourceports are inefficient code, which makes sense since they're made by amataeurs. He was discussing that in the context of Dr. Beef's VR ports, but it would definitely apply for Nvidia as well.

    • @nightmarezer0507
      @nightmarezer0507 2 года назад +3

      @@Wobbothe3rd Well I mean coming from Carmack yeah they prolly are coded like shit. Carmack is a god at coding. That is like saying the chef at your restaurant must be a shitty chef because Gordon Ramsay (who is a master chef) said he was shit. I mean the Quake source code has been out for so long yet no one has made a decent port of it? There has to be at least one port of quake that is half way decently coded. Or at least coded decently enough you can put a ray tracing rendering mode in.

    • @Wobbothe3rd
      @Wobbothe3rd 2 года назад +1

      @@nightmarezer0507 DarkPlaces aint it. That's my point, Nvidia couldn't start with flawed code. This Quake 1 port is based off a very minimalist Vulkan port.

  • @colbyboucher6391
    @colbyboucher6391 2 года назад +39

    I've always felt that Q1 would look much cooler / more dramatic with RT than Q2 does. ...Also I had no idea VKQuake existed *at all* so that's pretty rad.

    • @alfiehicks1
      @alfiehicks1 2 года назад +16

      Quake II would look cool if the raytracing was actually done in a way that is authentic to how the original game looks. Q2 RTX was created to show off RTX, not to add raytracing to Quake II.

    • @zeus1117
      @zeus1117 2 года назад +4

      VKQuake is an excellent port. Better than the remaster on Steam due to vsync issues.

    • @KillahMate
      @KillahMate 2 года назад +6

      VKQuake by itself is a superb compact recreation of the Quake engine for modern PCs, very faithful to the original by default but with heaps of additional bells and whistles available if needed. There's a bunch of open source Quake 1 engines available out there, but for my money VKQuake is right now the best one.

    • @rotor13
      @rotor13 2 года назад

      @@ramonandrajo6348 How about you GFY? Stop spamming every thread with your useless speech.

    • @IgnacioGouk
      @IgnacioGouk 2 года назад +2

      Check Iron Wail too, it's another QuakeSpasm fork, it's focused on performance...

  • @Mercuriusfm
    @Mercuriusfm 2 года назад +65

    Here are some settings to improve your config.cfg file. just replace the whole rt_ section with this. These settings aim to show off raytracing, while keeping the effects more subtle and true to Quake.
    //raytracing settings
    rt_antifirefly "1"
    rt_bloom_emis_mult "10" //edited
    rt_bloom_intensity "1" //edited
    rt_brush_metal "0.0"
    rt_brush_rough "1.0"
    rt_classic_render "0"
    rt_debugflags "0"
    rt_dlight_intensity "3.0"
    rt_dlight_radius "0.02"
    rt_ef_chraber "0.3"
    rt_ef_crt "0"
    rt_ef_waves_stren "1"
    rt_elight_default "200"
    rt_elight_default_mdl "1000"
    rt_elight_normaliz "100"
    rt_elight_radius "0.01"
    rt_elight_threshold "-1"
    rt_emis_fullbright_dflt "32"
    rt_emis_mapboost "30"
    rt_emis_maxscrcolor "32"
    rt_enable_pvs "0"
    rt_flashlight "0"
    rt_globallight_b "163"
    rt_globallight_g "214"
    rt_globallight_r "255"
    rt_globallightmult "10"
    rt_hud_minimal "1"
    rt_hud_padding "8"
    rt_indir2bounces "0"
    rt_model_metal "0.0"
    rt_model_rough "1.0"
    rt_muzzleoffs_x "0"
    rt_muzzleoffs_y "-30"
    rt_muzzleoffs_z "100"
    rt_normalmap_stren "1"
    rt_plight_intensity "3.0"
    rt_plight_radius "0.02"
    rt_poi_ammo "1"
    rt_poi_armor "1"
    rt_poi_distthresh "2"
    rt_poi_distthresh_super "3"
    rt_poi_func "1"
    rt_poi_health "1"
    rt_poi_key "1"
    rt_poi_pwrup "1"
    rt_poi_trigger "1"
    rt_poi_weapon "1"
    rt_portal_twirl "1"
    rt_reflrefr_depth "2"
    rt_refr_glass "1.52"
    rt_refr_water "1.33"
    rt_renderscale "0"
    rt_roughmin "0.02"
    rt_sensit_dir "0.4"
    rt_sensit_indir "0.06"
    rt_sensit_spec "0.03"
    rt_shadowrays "2"
    rt_sharpen "0"
    rt_sky "1" //edited
    rt_sky_saturation "0" //edited
    rt_sun "1" //edited
    rt_sun_pitch "60"
    rt_sun_yaw "-40"
    rt_upscale_dlss "0"
    rt_upscale_fsr2 "0"
    rt_viewm_fovscale "1.2"
    rt_viewm_wide "1.05"
    rt_vintage "0"
    rt_volume_ambient "1.1"
    rt_volume_far "1000"
    rt_volume_lassymetry "0.0"
    rt_volume_lintensity "250"
    rt_volume_lpitch "70"
    rt_volume_lyaw "-40"
    rt_volume_scatter "0.07" //edited
    rt_volume_type "2"
    rt_water_aciddensity "2" //edited
    rt_water_normsharp "5"
    rt_water_normstren "1"
    rt_water_scale "1"
    rt_water_speed "0.3"
    rt_wlight_intensity "3.0"
    rt_wlight_radius "0.01"
    You can also add a flashlight feature by pasting this in:
    //flashlight on and off
    bind f "rt_flashlight 10"
    bind g "rt_flashlight 0"
    Hope this helps.

    • @kernelbug2294
      @kernelbug2294 2 года назад +1

      raytraced quake looks too bright. will this config fix it?

    • @roadtonever
      @roadtonever 2 года назад +1

      Please post a video if you use this config.

    • @Mercuriusfm
      @Mercuriusfm 2 года назад +1

      @@kernelbug2294 fixes the acid brightness and adjusts the lighting and colors to be more true to classic software Quake

    • @Mercuriusfm
      @Mercuriusfm 2 года назад

      @@edmundroth6337 still has raytracing features but some of the effects are tweaked to better represent quake’s aesthetic.

    • @brentgreeff1115
      @brentgreeff1115 2 года назад +1

      Glad to see this - the bouncing lava lighting is so dramatic it feels like Mario 64.

  • @TexelGuy
    @TexelGuy 2 года назад +29

    FYI: You can get lower input latency and AutoHDR and VRR/GSync working in this version of Quake by setting the Nvidia control panel option 'Vulkan/OpenGL present method' to 'Prefer layered on DXGI Swapchain'. The setting should be right at the bottom of the 3D settings menu if you're on the newest drivers. That feature was added in the 526.47 driver version, iirc.

    • @zofrea1
      @zofrea1 2 года назад +2

      Thanks for this, it did improve the frame pacing and make it work quite a bit better with VRR. It also started feeling even better by combining this along with preventing the GPU from being fully maxxed out (keeping it a bit under 100% utilization)

  • @exactspace
    @exactspace 2 года назад +9

    This is one of the better path/ray traced mods I've seen. What I'd really like to see (and with other mods), is paying close attention to what an original part of the map may have intended with its lighting, and do some customization along with that to recreate it, instead of strictly having the results you'd have with path tracing. If an area was meant to be dark, keep it dark, etc. Although, many areas are much improved, without taking away from the gameplay, even though it can look vastly different.

    • @rsmith02
      @rsmith02 Год назад +3

      Totally agree, there's a lot of areas that are too dark or too light and that impacts gameplay greatly.

  • @Simte
    @Simte 2 года назад +71

    A great reason to come back to these classics. I can't wait for ray-traced Half Life.

    • @Wobbothe3rd
      @Wobbothe3rd 2 года назад +13

      @@ramonandrajo6348 they add new textures. Assets updated as well as the engine.

    • @GhettoPCbuilds
      @GhettoPCbuilds 2 года назад +16

      @@ramonandrajo6348 you realize normals and materials have to be altered to utilize path tracing right? It might be the same res but normals etc have been altered. Not the same.

    • @rrecee2639
      @rrecee2639 2 года назад +5

      @@ramonandrajo6348 , Finaly a sensible comment. Too many shills on youtube. Raytracing is for realisticc lighting effects, for better realism which as you say and I agree is complelely a waste of time for games so old they don't look realistic at all. It's like ray-tracing in a game like Minecraft totally FFS.
      OTOH for a game like Senua or Metro Exodu it looks quitegood

    • @marvinvargas4988
      @marvinvargas4988 2 года назад +26

      Oh, see, here I was thinking that this looks super cool but after reading your post I now see I was wrong. Thank you for the correction!

    • @GhettoPCbuilds
      @GhettoPCbuilds 2 года назад +6

      @@marvinvargas4988 LMAOOOO

  • @fisk0
    @fisk0 Год назад +15

    Really wish they'd have handled sky textures differently, as they are three part parallaxing textures they should have had the bottom layer be the light source with the additional layers occluding the light. Instead of these static purple god rays we'd get constantly shifting shadows as under storm clouds.

    • @why_i_game
      @why_i_game Год назад

      That would be brilliant!

  • @human_brian
    @human_brian 2 года назад +30

    I love when devs or modders add RT to older games. It gives them an entirely new feel and life. I'd love to see more games get this treatment, looking for to the HL RT mod.

    • @oskarmariagrande1855
      @oskarmariagrande1855 2 года назад +5

      Funnily enough they did sometimes render scenes in very high resolutions including RT for promo screenshots even in the 90s.

    • @human_brian
      @human_brian 2 года назад +7

      @@oskarmariagrande1855 Back then it probably took 3 months to render one frame for the screenshot.

    • @zergslayer69
      @zergslayer69 2 года назад

      Would love to see blood or shogo with ray tracing

  • @Dratio
    @Dratio 2 года назад +2

    I appreciate the effort but man is it obvious the lighting wasn't originally designed to look like this stylistically. Transforms some dark and foreboding areas into something so bright it's almost pastel.

  • @JiGantus
    @JiGantus 2 года назад +7

    Very cool! Quake is the game that made the biggest impact in my life. It also revolutionized gaming. It’s amazing to see it given new life. In a future update, quad should be given some sort of glow. Servers on the 2021 remaster added it, so the code already exists.

  • @jonRock
    @jonRock 2 года назад +80

    I love the way the fully ray traced version looks

    • @MalakaiDerg
      @MalakaiDerg 2 года назад +1

      @@ramonandrajo6348 Chill down schizo and stop copy pasting your comment

    • @Disobeyedtoast
      @Disobeyedtoast 2 года назад +2

      yeah it really adds to the mood in a lot of areas

    • @Disobeyedtoast
      @Disobeyedtoast 2 года назад +2

      @Damsen I thought that way at first too, but the more they showed the more I liked it.

    • @JonCombo
      @JonCombo Год назад

      Yea, if they could tone that down a bit (a lot).@damsen978

  • @fgmenth
    @fgmenth 2 года назад +47

    That Classic RT renderer seems like the sweet spot between authenticity and RT enhancements

    • @mr8I7
      @mr8I7 2 года назад +3

      @@ramonandrajo6348 - Finally someone with some sense.

    • @seizonsha
      @seizonsha 2 года назад +3

      @@ramonandrajo6348 🤣🤣🤣

    • @Drip7914
      @Drip7914 2 года назад +7

      @@mr8I7 ur both AMD bots 😭 no chance either of u are actually real

    • @Drip7914
      @Drip7914 2 года назад

      @thatCapN Crunch Because the game objectively looks better with ray tracing and they’re completely dismissing it. Also he’s 100% trolling with that exact same reply on every comment. You fell for it g 💀

  • @Sonnymac81
    @Sonnymac81 2 года назад +52

    Something tells me that Alex would gladly plug into a 24/7 VR headset and willingly live there if it were fully raytraced at 8K 240fps.

    • @trumpflavourednugget9325
      @trumpflavourednugget9325 2 года назад +12

      Wouldn't you?

    • @CRF250R1521
      @CRF250R1521 2 года назад +5

      @@trumpflavourednugget9325 i would if it was 16k at 480fps

    • @coldee785
      @coldee785 2 года назад

      @UC1dF-ON7WjGxnKidvOPhK3g You know what opinions and assholes have in common?

    • @JohnGuyJohn
      @JohnGuyJohn 2 года назад +5

      TFW you finally get your dream headset and realize you had already been living in a fully ray-traced, high-res and high-refresh reality all along

    • @ExceptionalGoyim
      @ExceptionalGoyim 2 года назад

      @@JohnGuyJohn Yup...a VR within a VR within a VR on some inception type sheeit. Nothing new under the sun, it's been happening and will continue to happen for eternity until we wise up to the "game". The optimal resolution and framerate to surpass the uncanny valley is 66k; 666fps in order for all sheeple to believe its real life and continue serving the enemy as slaves on a neverending hamster wheel, chasing imaginary riches, fame, & punani.

  • @RicochetForce
    @RicochetForce 2 года назад +14

    I'm convinced that we're going to start seeing 90s style games adopt RT in a big way. The affect it has on this simple geometry is incredibly striking and elevates the presentation dramatically.
    Imagine something like Square-Enix's 2D-HD titles leveraging ray tracing.

    • @Entropic_Alloy
      @Entropic_Alloy 2 года назад +6

      Amid Evil added RT and it looks awesome.

    • @RicochetForce
      @RicochetForce 2 года назад +3

      @@Entropic_Alloy Yeah, the power of lighting is no joke. Its very easy to overlook or underestimate until you see someone else test it. Same way the 2D-HD didn't excite some until we really saw what could be done with the approach.

    • @samcooke343
      @samcooke343 2 года назад

      @@ramonandrajo6348 I think it looks fantastic. These games still have audiences so it's not a waste at all.

    • @wiegraf9009
      @wiegraf9009 2 года назад

      They already user dynamic shadows and it's pretty cool. I would be interested to see what rt could add!

  • @callmejay360
    @callmejay360 2 года назад +41

    I just want someone to do this to the original 3 Thief games

    • @6ch6ris6
      @6ch6ris6 2 года назад +4

      ohhhhhhhhhh nice idea !!

    • @gersongaete1574
      @gersongaete1574 2 года назад +3

      Buy an Rtx 40 series Gpu and use the new Rtx remix to remaster all the games you want by yourself.

    • @callmejay360
      @callmejay360 2 года назад +4

      @@gersongaete1574 That isn't out yet though, is it? Also that should work on all RTX cards afaik.

    • @gersongaete1574
      @gersongaete1574 2 года назад +3

      @@callmejay360 Rtx remix as of right now it's only 30 and 40 series, and it's launching next year
      If you want specific games to be remastered that way, yoh should invest in a new Gpu and do it by yourself

    • @Sunbrosolaire
      @Sunbrosolaire 2 года назад

      @@gersongaete1574 source? I cant find any that excludes the 20 series

  • @fluffycritter
    @fluffycritter Год назад +8

    This upgrade makes Quake look like how you remember it looking.

  • @4R8YnTH3CH33F
    @4R8YnTH3CH33F 2 года назад +5

    For any AMD users out there, Quake II RTX on Steam runs well on my hardware and seems to have a very similar feature set to this mod. The only major flaw is no FSR 2.0, but it does have a robust dynamic resolution system which it looks like this mod lacks.

  • @ahmetdag5600
    @ahmetdag5600 2 года назад +9

    This is the best rt conversion I have ever seen. even better than official quake 2 rt imo.

  • @Taijifufu
    @Taijifufu 2 года назад +4

    Brutal and awesome. Will definitely check this out. Thanks Alex.

    • @Taijifufu
      @Taijifufu 2 года назад +2

      @@ramonandrajo6348 I disagree. 💥💥💥

  • @alfiehicks1
    @alfiehicks1 2 года назад +14

    I never get tired of DF videos about Quake. I'm hoping Quake II gets a remaster soon, and I won't lie, it's mainly because I'd love another video on that game.

    • @ArchyVai0
      @ArchyVai0 2 года назад +6

      Quake 2 rtx on steam...

    • @GoodmansGhost
      @GoodmansGhost 2 года назад

      @@ArchyVai0 That's a de-master because it looks aweful.

    • @alfiehicks1
      @alfiehicks1 2 года назад +1

      @@ArchyVai0 Quake 2 RTX sucks. It ruins the artistic direction of the original and it runs like shit.
      As an RTX tech demo, it's fine, but as a version of Quake II, it's not even worth considering. Plus it's only on PC, so there's literally no reason to play it instead of the original, or a source port.
      Source ports will _always_ be better than official remasters thanks to corporate bullshit, but at least official remasters give people an official way to play the game on consoles.

    • @ViperT0ngue
      @ViperT0ngue 2 года назад +5

      I love quake 2 rtx and think it looks far better than original. It also runs amazing on my PC.
      Oh and I couldn't care less if its on console or not. Usually people who say it sucks either have never played it or got the hardware capable of running it at acceptable quality.

    • @deadtake2664
      @deadtake2664 2 года назад +3

      @@alfiehicks1 I kinda liked Quake II RTX

  • @Wilberbeest
    @Wilberbeest 2 года назад +3

    Thanks for the info about this! Just tried this out on my RTX 3050 8GB. Runs at 60 with no DLSS and 120hz with DLSS Bal. I hope we see more old games with unfiltered textures get RTX. It’s such a unique look!

  • @mymachine7170
    @mymachine7170 2 года назад +25

    It's crazy how much DF/RT-related content I watch, yet I don't even own a device that's capable of raytracing :D Cool tech, can't wait to try it out some day.

    • @TimmyTurner421
      @TimmyTurner421 2 года назад +2

      I'll happily try it out the day it's easily affordable

    • @lilpain1997
      @lilpain1997 2 года назад +5

      @@TimmyTurner421 I cant wait for more people to be able to try it out. A lot of people still think its useless because they cant actually use it, but once you play a game with it on ( depending on the RT implementation ) it can change everything. Its a very exciting time for us gamers

    • @TerraWare
      @TerraWare 2 года назад +2

      @@lilpain1997 I love eye candy so naturally ray tracing is a pretty cool feature that ads to the immersion for me. I realize it's expensive to performance and also to your wallet so I can understand why many feel its not worth it. What I don't understand is that there's a group of people that are almost religiously against it and will respond with hostility if you happen to disagree with them and to be fair there is such a group on the ray tracing side as well. It's a feature that's grown in popularity tremendously the last couple of years with new games supporting it and it's even being added to older games by devs and modders alike. It's a big focus for consoles and Nvidia, AMD and Intel with their gpu's improving their RT support with each generation of gpu's. It'll only get bigger.

    • @steel5897
      @steel5897 2 года назад +2

      It's ok, once I got an RTX card I used ray tracing for like a few hours and then never bothered with it in modern games.
      DLSS however, that is sex, can't get enough of it. I was used to having to choose between image quality/resolution and performance, but now I get both.

    • @lilpain1997
      @lilpain1997 2 года назад +6

      @@ramonandrajo6348 lmao no its not... its always cool to see what an old game would look like with a modern lighting engine used.

  • @DaxMarko
    @DaxMarko 2 года назад +2

    Gamers in past: Finally, with my new graphics card, I can run Quake 1!
    Gamers two decades later: Finally, with my new graphics card, I can run RT for Quake 1!

  • @DanWhite1025
    @DanWhite1025 2 года назад +39

    Feeling like this is the time to join the PC club. The mods for old games alone make the investment seem worthwhile to me.

    • @jeremieh5009
      @jeremieh5009 2 года назад +9

      Oh absolutely

    • @paullynch1246
      @paullynch1246 2 года назад +4

      Especially with RTX remix coming (the dev tools to remaster the lighting effects and more) for so many old games.

    • @razzledazzle84921
      @razzledazzle84921 2 года назад +3

      Definitely an exciting time. I’m genuinely more interested in these old games that you can add improvements to rather than most new games.

    • @GUERILLAILL
      @GUERILLAILL 2 года назад +2

      Yep switched to pc three years ago and my only grip is I waited so long. Mostly playing old games, 5-30 years old and its glorious. Getting dozens of aaa/aa games on crazy sales for like 3-5$ a piece.

    • @MintyLime703
      @MintyLime703 2 года назад +2

      The potential for playing older games is often underrated. You always hear about the latest and greatest as far as PC is concerned, but with a mid range you can have a lot of fun playing older games whereas you can use a PS5/XSX for newer games. If I didn't already have the setup that I have now and didn't have the money then that's probably what I would've done. A high refresh monitor with a midrange and a console. It's really nice playing older games locked to 162fps/hz with gsync and it always surprises me just how much fun there is to be had playing completely free mods. Games like Half Life 1/2, Doom, Quake, etc have an insane amount of mods to play that hardly take up any space on your drive. And midrange specs ensure that you can play some newer stuff and most indie games that aren't available on console.
      Personally I have an RTX 2080ti and an i9 9900k and yet more often than not you'll find me playing older games that it's completely overkill for. At least RTX in these games somewhat vindicates that habit. My Xbox is meant for the few exclusives left and local coop for older games, as well as crossplay with my friend. Closest we can get to emulating splitscreen on most games nowadays.
      Full RTX still runs pretty bad on games like Quake though. Quake 2 RTX with DLSS at quality and 1440p still runs at 30-40fps on my setup. But full RTX is at the extreme end.

  • @MetalJody1990
    @MetalJody1990 2 года назад +1

    I'm glad that DF finally got around to covering this incredible mod. Didn't notice any issues with whichever DLSS version I was using, but I went ahead and replaced the DLL with the one from 2.2.6.

  • @RebTheRebel2000
    @RebTheRebel2000 2 года назад +16

    They've done such a phenomenal job with this. I just wish it was in the released into the main game and to actually make more realistic character models too as an option.

  • @doctor_gee
    @doctor_gee 2 года назад +9

    I must be missing something in terms of configuration between our systems, I'm running 4k native and usually get 80+ FPS, it never goes below 70. I have a 3080Ti and Ryzen 7 3700
    It's awesome! Thanks for the analysis.

  • @Krommer1000
    @Krommer1000 2 года назад +5

    As with a lot of these things. There's good an bad. I loved the crispness, reflections, and water effects. The sky casting a purple hue, not so much. Seems that most things have menu adjusts, so certainly worth taking a look at.

  • @Underqualified_Gunman
    @Underqualified_Gunman 2 года назад +2

    One interesting thing to note is that the original quake had tex lights which where textures that got told to emit light this feature has made it into the gold source and source engine as well.

  • @rolithesecond
    @rolithesecond 2 года назад +12

    Bonus points for picking MarkieMusic's Quake Champions songs. They are all amazing.

    • @helloguy8934
      @helloguy8934 2 года назад

      What song did he use in the beginning?

  • @RadioactiveChannel06
    @RadioactiveChannel06 2 года назад +1

    What would be cool is if this port of Quake utilised the enhanced models from the NightDive port of Quake, since I think the better lighting exposes just how low poly those original models were so more polygons might create less of a visual clash.

  • @envirovore
    @envirovore 2 года назад +17

    Thanks for testing various DLSS versions, I'll be swapping down to 2.6.6 now.

    • @envirovore
      @envirovore 2 года назад

      @@SeaCrestInNOut Yes, meant 2.2.6, thinking one thing and typing another...and now leaving it as is for posterity.

    • @igorthelight
      @igorthelight Год назад

      @@envirovore I heard that 2.4.12v2 shows good results too ;-)

  • @Ionizap
    @Ionizap 2 года назад +1

    The first time I encountered a Shambler will forever stick in my mind. I am getting a computer at work that supports ray tracing and think I'll give this a shot.

  • @denisruskin348
    @denisruskin348 2 года назад +6

    Man, this makes me so hyped for Portal RT.

  • @miguelroman4294
    @miguelroman4294 2 года назад +5

    Just the thought of past gaming gems like Quake getting this feature set is staggering! Would love to see Halo Combat Evolved with path raytracing, just wow!

    • @burgerbait
      @burgerbait 2 года назад

      Playing it with that fake raytracing in reshade made me want it done properly so badly.

  • @sdo1840
    @sdo1840 2 года назад +19

    The noises alone from quake bring back a million nostalgia feelings. Couldn't care less what it looks like

    • @YeahSorryAboutThat
      @YeahSorryAboutThat 2 года назад +5

      The sound of the ogre's grenades bouncing around is timeless.

  • @dnakatomiuk
    @dnakatomiuk 2 года назад +2

    Oh the LAN parties I used to go to with my friends for Quake, Unreal, Diablo 2 LOD oh the best memories

  • @VisivisiV
    @VisivisiV Год назад +15

    Sweet! I was wishing they did this ever since they did Quake 2 RTX, which I thought was the wrong one to do this to. The original Quake was always the one with the vibe.

  • @jgordon7719
    @jgordon7719 Год назад +12

    I feel like there needs to be a greater spectrum of light intensity between different light sources, they seem too similar. Also in general making the light source intensity lower would help make it feel more like the original quake but just look more realistic. I feel like they're trying too hard to make it appear that RTX is enabled, it's too emphasize and it dissuades from the look and feel of the game in my opinion

  • @TheNerd
    @TheNerd 2 года назад +5

    Let's take a moment and give John Carmack a thumb up since he was the one fighting to release the scource code of these older games.
    I can not wait for a Path Traced Version of Quake 3 Arena. That said, it's gonna be hard to find ppl to play it with.
    Maybe Epic should release the Unreal 1 / 2 // Unreal Tournament scource code aswell.

    • @igorthelight
      @igorthelight Год назад

      They should!
      But their "masters" would allow that, I afraid ;-)

  • @Osprey850
    @Osprey850 2 года назад +1

    To make it so that a single key/button turns the flashlight on and off, create a text file named autoexec.cfg in your id1 folder and add the following:
    alias flashlight "flashlight_on"
    alias flashlight_on "rt_flashlight 10; alias flashlight flashlight_off"
    alias flashlight_off "rt_flashlight 0; alias flashlight flashlight_on"
    bind "f" flashlight
    bind "r" "rt_pfnswitch"
    The last command changes the renderer switching key to 'R' so that 'F' can be used for the flashlight. If you want to keep 'F' for renderer switching, delete that last command and set a different key/button for the flashlight.
    FYI, the alias commands will be deleted if put into config.cfg, so autoexec.cfg (or another .cfg file that you manually load) really is needed.

  • @Parker--
    @Parker-- 2 года назад +7

    These are the types of remasters people actually want; the original game with an old school look but realistic lighting and surface material properties.

    • @gellister
      @gellister 2 года назад +2

      It's also why people love the hd-2d pixel art being used on new and even old square enix games. We don't want realistic we just want something beautiful. Adding modern beauty to retro beauty leads to something even more special.

  • @kurtdewittphoto
    @kurtdewittphoto 2 года назад +1

    Finally! Been waiting for this ever since Quake 2 RTX.

  • @bcspm1bcspm158
    @bcspm1bcspm158 2 года назад +9

    In this video three important things are missing. 1) A check if the player can walk through the entire game. In the past some windows ports had bugs which prevented the player from completing the single player campaign without using cheats. 2) A check how the secrets look like before they are revealed. In the original Quake you don't see a secret before you open it. But in many ports the texture that covers a secret looks different. 3) A check if the nails from the Nailgun shoot from the weapon when the player strafes like in original Quake. Because in many ports the nails shoot from the armpits of the player and this looks wierd.

  • @sarabihyena
    @sarabihyena 2 года назад +1

    Oh freaking finally, i've been waiting so long for something to replace tenebrae quake

  • @-INFERNUS-
    @-INFERNUS- 2 года назад +4

    Love to see Kingpin: Reloaded when it does release get the RT treatment.😊I loved the original game.

    • @igorthelight
      @igorthelight Год назад

      It's on Quake engine? That it's possible!

    • @-INFERNUS-
      @-INFERNUS- Год назад

      @@igorthelight Yes it was a Quake 2 engine.

  • @sireffortlessgarbage7922
    @sireffortlessgarbage7922 2 года назад +2

    Awesome! I found it puzzling that they did quake 2, but not quake.

  • @TwinOpinion
    @TwinOpinion 2 года назад +6

    Thanks for keeping us updated on these raytracing projects! So freakin' cool!

    • @TwinOpinion
      @TwinOpinion 2 года назад +3

      @@ramonandrajo6348 It's fine if it does nothing for you, but thousands seem to be enjoying this mod.
      There're plenty of fun things that don't click with me, but I'd never call them a waste of time, because I'm objective, and realize different people like different things.

    • @DarkReturns1
      @DarkReturns1 2 года назад +3

      @@ramonandrajo6348 sorry your gaming on a potato bud. Maybe daddy will get you a real GPU this Christmas!

  • @JefersonPaivFerreira
    @JefersonPaivFerreira Год назад

    The effects cast by the sky and the fog were simply brilliant!

  • @stevenclark2188
    @stevenclark2188 2 года назад +2

    It's probably better to compare this water effect to a set of maps that have been re-vis'ed for transparent water which glquake has supported forever.

  • @TheRealAbeAwesome
    @TheRealAbeAwesome 2 года назад +1

    That room with the Nailgun in E1M1... the RT is sublime.

  • @xkpm
    @xkpm 2 года назад +12

    Please put the links to the sources used in the video in the description, thanks!

  • @dun0790
    @dun0790 2 года назад +1

    I love how this game has had a recent resurgence replaying it on my switch was fun and weird I remember when playing this game on a console felt impossible

  • @johnellis3383
    @johnellis3383 2 года назад +5

    Classic Quake is still amazing and has such iconic visuals but oh my God this update looks amazing!

  • @crithon
    @crithon 2 года назад +1

    I had to stop everything to watch this. WOW! Quake 1 looks great in Raytracing.

  • @damientech88
    @damientech88 2 года назад +3

    Playing old games at 1440p 165Hz or higher with VRR gives them new life. RT is icing on the cake.

  • @EricFraga
    @EricFraga 2 года назад +2

    I played the hell out of Quake on MS-DOS back then and just played for the first time the N64 port, which is great with the original controller (I've played on the real console). Quake is an adventure, a true adventure. The mazes are sublime. The sounds are unforgettable. Now I want a video card with raytrace, now there's a reason!

  • @Carlos-cu4ms
    @Carlos-cu4ms 2 года назад +4

    I think Quake is the game that will make me buy a RTX GPU... Jesus, this looks sick!!!

  • @magicmulder
    @magicmulder Год назад

    Still fondly remember how impressed I was with Quake on my first 3D card, the 3dfx Voodoo (paired with a Matrox Millennium for 2D).

  • @captainthunderbolt7541
    @captainthunderbolt7541 2 года назад +4

    tbh I think that on balance classic mode looks better.
    The fully path traced mode makes for a really nice tech demo, but it's missing too much of that Quake signature look.

    • @igorthelight
      @igorthelight Год назад

      Just tweak the config file (make it more dark, less saturated, less fog, green toxic pools and so much more...)

  • @Mercuriusfm
    @Mercuriusfm 2 года назад +1

    Amazing work, and very fun to play. Definitely with some minor config tweaks, it could be visually improved even more. Once again, the community outdoing the corpos.

  • @Myako
    @Myako 2 года назад +2

    Great video! Thanks for covering this. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
    I hope Sultim eventually makes an upscaled/PBR texture pack for this, like they did for Serious Sam.
    Also, this being vkQuake-based, it's likely to be compatible with NightFright2k19's Authentic Model Replacement, right?

  • @StaySic4Ever
    @StaySic4Ever 2 года назад +1

    I simply live this series. Playing Quake competitively too. I hope we see a new game eventually!

  • @Notsram77
    @Notsram77 2 года назад +5

    If Hexen gets a similar treatment, I'm gonna lose it.

    • @TimmyTurner421
      @TimmyTurner421 2 года назад +2

      If you like Hexen then I can recommend the game Cultic

    • @nothingelse1520
      @nothingelse1520 2 года назад +1

      Check out Hexen HD 2020 its similar

  • @Trick-Framed
    @Trick-Framed Год назад

    I bought Quake when it came out. It was great. Right before Quake II was released OpenGL Quake was released and it it was a night and day difference. It was beautiful. It was as if it were an entirely new game. I loved it. Now we have Path Traced Quake and I will check it out when I can. Quake was one of those games that you'd lose hours of your life to without realizing it. A great PC game.

  • @irvinggonzalez4729
    @irvinggonzalez4729 Год назад +6

    Would be interesting to see if the old ray tracing demos for enemy territory and wolfenstein reaurface

  • @Mrcryptidsarereal
    @Mrcryptidsarereal 2 года назад

    9:45 aww man you showed the Jesus face! I always liked how it was obscured by darkness, gives it a creepiness to not see the full thing and let your imagine fill in the horrifying gaps.

  • @By_Rant_Or_Ruin
    @By_Rant_Or_Ruin 2 года назад +3

    I would love to see this done in Assault Cube.

  • @1967KID
    @1967KID 2 года назад +1

    Quake 2 next please. I have all the quake game's and mod's , in 1997 quake save my life and change my life in positive way . Respect 💯♥️🔥

  • @cw-cw6nl
    @cw-cw6nl 2 года назад +3

    I would love to see Splinter Cell 1, 2, and Chaos Theory get this treatment.

  • @why_i_game
    @why_i_game Год назад

    Excellent detailed review, much appreciated.

  • @CasepbX
    @CasepbX 2 года назад +2

    Awesome, awesome to the max.

  • @llSuperSnivyll
    @llSuperSnivyll 2 года назад +1

    I tried it around a month ago, a few days after it was released. It certainly works better than I expected in some aspects (I didn't expect teleporters to show the destination area - although that naturally looks odd when it comes to end-of-level teleporters) but I've noticed that there are some issues when looking at submerged objects from outside of the water or viceversa, such as grenades or rockets not being visible or the Spawn's explosion animation suffering from the same issue.

  • @picolete
    @picolete 2 года назад +3

    I prefer the look of the classic RT, in the full RT the first thing i would do, would be removing the fog

    • @igorthelight
      @igorthelight Год назад

      I think you can ;-)
      ini is fully customizable (you can make toxic pools just like in Quake Classic - green and transparent)

  • @burakandthestraycats
    @burakandthestraycats 2 года назад

    nice choice of song for the intro. A classic game!

  • @COIFISHGAMING
    @COIFISHGAMING 2 года назад +4

    This is why I love Path Tracing, it takes the old and completely makes it beautiful

  • @JFinns
    @JFinns 2 года назад +1

    Quake was the most groundbreaking fps of all time. This is so good and runs so well it could have been released officially.
    Would love to see commentary from John Carmack on this video.

  • @HighwayMule
    @HighwayMule 2 года назад +4

    Teal sludge makes it look like a healing pool.

    • @wiegraf9009
      @wiegraf9009 2 года назад

      Mountain Dew pool

    • @igorthelight
      @igorthelight Год назад

      That's easily fixable in config files - just google that.

  • @Yellowswift3
    @Yellowswift3 2 года назад +1

    I agree about the neon teal water, for me that just doesn't look right. Some of the other differences look good, though.

  • @supabass4003
    @supabass4003 2 года назад +2

    Use 640x480 vintage setting with your screen resolution, for a raytraced 1996 look.

    • @wiegraf9009
      @wiegraf9009 2 года назад

      Best to also supersample down to that screen resolution so the RT engine has some info to work with

  • @pqsnet
    @pqsnet Год назад

    Love to see old games being updated with "modern" and cool graphics!
    And most important... Wither have options to keep the old look and feeling, but still enhanced.
    Or to fully go through with updated graphics.

  • @sunjoexys7251
    @sunjoexys7251 2 года назад +3

    Wow. I am looking forward to more Path-traced mods for older games.

    • @igorthelight
      @igorthelight Год назад

      Only for Open Sourced ones, like Quake ;-)
      Otherwise - how would you modify the game?

  • @darthjump
    @darthjump Год назад

    The Thunderbolt should illuminate the whole room like a flashbang!

  • @argoniantuncboyacyan1780
    @argoniantuncboyacyan1780 2 года назад +5

    I still don't understand why ID acts like Quake 3 doesn't exist.

    • @Wobbothe3rd
      @Wobbothe3rd 2 года назад

      Quake Live. And Champions is basically the original vision of Arena.

  • @pinecedar180
    @pinecedar180 Год назад

    Really nice narration, this guy is smart

  • @FlergerBergitydersh
    @FlergerBergitydersh 2 года назад +2

    I really appreciate the "Classic" version. I don't agree with some of the interpretations of the fully Ray Traced visuals here, and a LOT of them in Doom RT, even though I appreciate them on a technical level and in their own artistic way. The Classic renderer gives us something closer to a "definitive" experience.

    • @igorthelight
      @igorthelight Год назад

      In both games - they are configurable using config file ;-)

  • @mayanksingh12
    @mayanksingh12 2 года назад +2

    Classic RT preserves the spooky gothic feel of the game. Path traced version although looks very good, but it has too much light, so it spoils the surprise horror element of the original game as dark areas used to create a sense of apprehension..