for soooooo long, lol. This really is what the V1 should have been for them to get the right kind of adoption back then. I am just glad they are finally able to get a design to this level where it can be both powerful and compact like it needs to be.
@@BaconNinjaFPV I agree 100%… part of the reason I didn’t end up buying one is because I just didn’t have any frames that fit it correctly… and I figured that a smaller version would be coming soon. I remember your first video on the v1 1watt vtx was Feb or March of 2022? We’re nearing the end of of 2023. That took a lot longer than I expected. 🥲
I've been running the V1 version on 2 of my quads for a couple of years now without any problems. Including GPS. I'll be picking up the new V2 tomorrow for a 3.5" Cinewhoop I've just built. I can't wait!
I agree! I know everyone over there really loves FPV and just wants to make this system better, so I would be willing to bet we see many more improvements down the road.
My goggles are on theiir way too!! It only took me 8 months to save up for them, lol. Hopefully shipping wont be the same as it was a few months back with weeks worth of waiting....we shall see.
Welp there goes any savings I would have started. So happy to see this come out. So hard to find a good 30x30 rear stack frame that's in stock. Now the options just exploded all over the place. Thanks for the review, this is a game changer! Cheers!
yeah there were a couple of lines that always had enough width to get this in without too much hang over like the AOS....buuuut not everyone wants to fly an AOS and options outside of that were kind of slim for sure.
@@BaconNinjaFPV Sorry I wasn't clear, What I would like to see is a Race V3 sized and weight vtx with a solid 400 to 500mw output for whoops and tooth pics etc.
Excellent overview of the new HDZero Freestyle vtx. Kudos to HDZero, this is a much needed vtx for the HDZero community. And will hopefully sway some new adopters. I'm very happy with the Race vtx and whoop lite kit. 🤓
It was needed for sure! That old V1 VTX was a big step at the time, but this really does bring it into a whole bunch more options. The last one was much less "freestyle" than this one is, lol.
1000% on everything you said Bacon.. Looking forward myself to blowing out my Race v2 to pickup this new VTX. The only thing I will say is i got the Nano 90 with the adapter for a 5" TBS Source frame and it *did* fit with the adapter but over the spring and summer of as much flying as I could; the mounting holes into the cam became wallowed out and found one screw completely gone. A bit of aluminum foil in the hole and got the threads to stick. Ended up replacing with the Micro V2 and such an easier fit. Love the Nano but for 5", without much knowledge or some handy 3D prints (which I did have at the time) I just would caution there's too much void that caused vibrations that ended up giving me the issues I had. Regardless, love the HDZ system and looking forward to the future of what Carl and the team can do!
they are churning away at it for sure. I think at this point they had better hold on to being a hardware company along side the chips themselves, because they are finally getting the manufacturing part down!
lol, I was right there with you man! When it was transitioning from Shark Byte to HDZ back when Fat Shark was still involved we all said they needed this. It took them a while to buckle down on being a manufacturer and mature the product to this point, but man did they do a good job now that it is on the table! Me and my Shark Byte receiver are gonna be over here enjoying it, lol.
Hey Bacon! What about the update port on the Freestyle V2? Chris Rosser showed that you need an adapter to connect it to the goggles for updating? And it's not even included? Totally confused about this... lol . ..And the plastic securing of the ufl feels just ... why?
As best I can tell, they really prefer you use the programmer rather than the goggle/VTX connection for flashing now and that little thing comes with both cables you need to flash any HDZ product. Now should they have included a cable for those who may not have/want a programmer? Absolutely, lol. As for the plastic UFL and mipi bars, I believe they went that way and stopped using brass because people were cranking those things down and breaking stuff. They had started adding little pads with it to soften contact with the UFL and mipi, but a lot of broken UFLs ripped off of boards were from that cracking the solder at the base of them. With plastic that would be super hard to break, and honestly they are so narrow that breaking the plastic from typical crash forces isn't going to be common. Really good questions!!!!
@BaconNinjaFPV well, if hdzero is listening.. now I want micro90 with dual mounting screws. I love how the mini cams and og dji cam, you can set it and forget it.
I havent ripped it apart yet, but I bet it would be a bit lighter without it! Not sure how it would do with heat though as it does get pretty warm just like its older brother.
Hey Bacon ,nice lookin upgrade,cant waait to use one.if just one of my builds mainly cinewhoops could just stay not broken from there owners bad decisions, hope you been well? have a good weekend n thank you for sharing this good news.
You are absolutely correct! I had a bit of a mix up with the reference documents. The VTX supports it, however the bundled cam does not. I will issue a correct in a pin :)
I wish the manufacturers would have a shielded cable with the GPS’s to help with VTX RF noise as seems most VTXs cause issues with GPS locks, with digital VTXs the worst.
me too! It should be fairly simple for them to either pre-shield the pigtails or at least provide some shielding material for us to trim and use during install.
@@BaconNinjaFPV It should, intrestingly another guy and myself had to explain the sheild issue to HGLRC rep on their discord when they launched the m10 GPS module. They had no idea it was an issue.
My caddx nebula pro didn't make it through me learning freestyle. I mean it works still but something is causing a camera outage I'm not sure but I'm not worried since I am fairly certain I can repair it.
I'm still lurking in the shadows... was hoping they'd have done this over a year ago... better late than never? This will actually fit that frame I designed
Awesome vtx, can you tell me the screw size of the screw that are used to hold the unit together? is it m1.6x14? this way i could buy larger screws and use the 03 holes on my frame to mount this vtx :)
As best I can tell, you are right on the money with the sizing. They appear to be m1.6 and given they run through the whole case 14mm should be accurate. I will get my calipers out when I can and double check though.
@@BaconNinjaFPV you are awesome, would save me a lot of headache when attaching the unit to my siren f3 split frame if these screws line up with the 03 air unit ones in the frame and have the the right size :D
I broke down to total goo goo gaa gaa baby speak when you whipped out the new VTx: _Who's a powa ful widdle vee tee ex? You are! Are you gonna go poopies? Gawd I hope not you expensive little..._ lol
@@BaconNinjaFPV True. I think they might have been able to further reduce the metal amount but fin it more for greater surface dissipation area. Its a tough case, possibly over tough. For now I have slapped it in a Diatone Roma 4" where it fits very nicely, whereas the V1 did not, at all! Oh, and power level for power level, it seems a bit better reception and less prone to speckle white pixels when challenged behind obstacles. Not tried to unlock it, assume its the same process.
for me the HDzero's biggest flaw is its breakup, I can't fly through it, it reminds me of analog but a bit scarier because it gets really bad really fast, and the times when it looks "good" its never static free. I may feel different if it gave me a clear image for most line of sight flights, but I can't even get that out of it.
yeah it does have some unique breakup, that is for sure. For some pilots it isn't a deal breaker, but I totally get where you are coming from. For me, I almost never have an issue line of sight beyond a couple of speckles here or there...but when I get behind some greenery all bets are off, lol.
It is basically identically comparable to the V1 as far as range goes. I still get break up when behind wet trees and super low down in grass, but when I have line of sight I can get out to several thousand feet without issue. I know it can do much more than that, I am just limited by the area I have available for flying.
Just rip a vista or 03 I've never had hd0 I understand lower latency is important to some, I'm just one of those people who doesn't care I'm that good at FPV
You are absolutely correct! I had a bit of a mix up with the reference documents. The VTX supports it, however the bundled cam does not. I am issuing a correction in a pin :)
Im really into this vtx, especially for the grinderino.
Gotta grab me that frame Bot and your 5" when spring rolls around (NW Ohio here so we both know our Winters here and in PA!)
I figured you would be into this one, lol. Seems right up your alley Bot!
HDzero has needed this for a long time. Thanks for the overview, and cheers to another step forward for HDzero.
for soooooo long, lol. This really is what the V1 should have been for them to get the right kind of adoption back then. I am just glad they are finally able to get a design to this level where it can be both powerful and compact like it needs to be.
@@BaconNinjaFPV I agree 100%… part of the reason I didn’t end up buying one is because I just didn’t have any frames that fit it correctly… and I figured that a smaller version would be coming soon.
I remember your first video on the v1 1watt vtx was Feb or March of 2022? We’re nearing the end of of 2023. That took a lot longer than I expected. 🥲
Hdzero red case/heatsinks are so nice and would compliment a red build so well
I've been running the V1 version on 2 of my quads for a couple of years now without any problems. Including GPS. I'll be picking up the new V2 tomorrow for a 3.5" Cinewhoop I've just built. I can't wait!
It is cool to see them address the issues and make a better product!
I agree! I know everyone over there really loves FPV and just wants to make this system better, so I would be willing to bet we see many more improvements down the road.
I pre-ordered one last week and ordered the goggles too. I can't wait to get them.
My goggles are on theiir way too!! It only took me 8 months to save up for them, lol. Hopefully shipping wont be the same as it was a few months back with weeks worth of waiting....we shall see.
I dont know about this vtx, but the googles are magnificent in every way, esp. if you plan on keeping analog arround.
The HDZero store is the only place that had it in stock. I just picked one up. Thanks Baconator!❤
Welp there goes any savings I would have started. So happy to see this come out. So hard to find a good 30x30 rear stack frame that's in stock. Now the options just exploded all over the place. Thanks for the review, this is a game changer! Cheers!
Every AOS Frame?
yeah there were a couple of lines that always had enough width to get this in without too much hang over like the AOS....buuuut not everyone wants to fly an AOS and options outside of that were kind of slim for sure.
U are becoming my main go to guy regarding HDZero Mr. Thanks 4 all, great viD
Now I want something in between in output power between 400 to 700 mw ,nice review Bacon!!
Dont quote me on it, but this one does support lower output modes with a VTX table and I believe it has a couple in that range there :)
@@BaconNinjaFPV Sorry I wasn't clear, What I would like to see is a Race V3 sized and weight vtx with a solid 400 to 500mw output for whoops and tooth pics etc.
I am going to try one of these in my Grinderino Build! Great Review.
That will be a great frame to stuff one of these into! I think Bot would approve :)
Excellent overview of the new HDZero Freestyle vtx. Kudos to HDZero, this is a much needed vtx for the HDZero community. And will hopefully sway some new adopters.
I'm very happy with the Race vtx and whoop lite kit. 🤓
It was needed for sure! That old V1 VTX was a big step at the time, but this really does bring it into a whole bunch more options. The last one was much less "freestyle" than this one is, lol.
You gave me the info I needed again, thank you . Great video!!
1000% on everything you said Bacon.. Looking forward myself to blowing out my Race v2 to pickup this new VTX. The only thing I will say is i got the Nano 90 with the adapter for a 5" TBS Source frame and it *did* fit with the adapter but over the spring and summer of as much flying as I could; the mounting holes into the cam became wallowed out and found one screw completely gone. A bit of aluminum foil in the hole and got the threads to stick. Ended up replacing with the Micro V2 and such an easier fit. Love the Nano but for 5", without much knowledge or some handy 3D prints (which I did have at the time) I just would caution there's too much void that caused vibrations that ended up giving me the issues I had. Regardless, love the HDZ system and looking forward to the future of what Carl and the team can do!
Nice! Always good to keep seeing HDZero improve!
they are churning away at it for sure. I think at this point they had better hold on to being a hardware company along side the chips themselves, because they are finally getting the manufacturing part down!
@@BaconNinjaFPV Totally agree!
I said hdzero needed a vista style vtx years ago.
But what I've learnt is.... "nobody listens to me" 😂😂
About foooooking time Carl!!!!
lol, I was right there with you man! When it was transitioning from Shark Byte to HDZ back when Fat Shark was still involved we all said they needed this. It took them a while to buckle down on being a manufacturer and mature the product to this point, but man did they do a good job now that it is on the table! Me and my Shark Byte receiver are gonna be over here enjoying it, lol.
Excellent review, dude!!! 😃
This VTX looks fantastic indeed!
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Thank you man! I wonder what one of these things costs shipped down there to you, lol.
@@BaconNinjaFPV If I get them from China it's absolutely no issue, it's pretty cheap. Now, from the US... Ouch. 😬
Nice Bacon . Game changer just a bit smaller size of 03 air unit👍🏻
It is just about right for most frames on the market, and that is soooo much better than it was with the v1, lol.
Hey Bacon! What about the update port on the Freestyle V2? Chris Rosser showed that you need an adapter to connect it to the goggles for updating? And it's not even included? Totally confused about this... lol . ..And the plastic securing of the ufl feels just ... why?
As best I can tell, they really prefer you use the programmer rather than the goggle/VTX connection for flashing now and that little thing comes with both cables you need to flash any HDZ product. Now should they have included a cable for those who may not have/want a programmer? Absolutely, lol. As for the plastic UFL and mipi bars, I believe they went that way and stopped using brass because people were cranking those things down and breaking stuff. They had started adding little pads with it to soften contact with the UFL and mipi, but a lot of broken UFLs ripped off of boards were from that cracking the solder at the base of them. With plastic that would be super hard to break, and honestly they are so narrow that breaking the plastic from typical crash forces isn't going to be common. Really good questions!!!!
I just finished designing a frame for the v1. Now they listen
lolol, that seems to always be how it goes!
@BaconNinjaFPV well, if hdzero is listening.. now I want micro90 with dual mounting screws. I love how the mini cams and og dji cam, you can set it and forget it.
Thats awesome! Excited for HDZ boiz!!
...deff a shrink ray.
I know you are secretly over there wishing TMotor would start manufacturing VTX's too :p
@@BaconNinjaFPV they do make a pretty awesome analog one 🤣🤣🤣 if only I flew analog
I have been running INAV, gps and Freestyle V1, Whooplite and Race V2 all along without any gps problems on quads and planes.
Thanks for the review. Have you weighed it without the casing? would it be a good alternative for the whoop lite?
I havent ripped it apart yet, but I bet it would be a bit lighter without it! Not sure how it would do with heat though as it does get pretty warm just like its older brother.
Hey Bacon ,nice lookin upgrade,cant waait to use one.if just one of my builds mainly cinewhoops could just stay not broken from there owners bad decisions, hope you been well? have a good weekend n thank you for sharing this good news.
Good review. The nano doesn’t support 1080 30 though.
You are absolutely correct! I had a bit of a mix up with the reference documents. The VTX supports it, however the bundled cam does not. I will issue a correct in a pin :)
I wish the manufacturers would have a shielded cable with the GPS’s to help with VTX RF noise as seems most VTXs cause issues with GPS locks, with digital VTXs the worst.
me too! It should be fairly simple for them to either pre-shield the pigtails or at least provide some shielding material for us to trim and use during install.
@@BaconNinjaFPV It should, intrestingly another guy and myself had to explain the sheild issue to HGLRC rep on their discord when they launched the m10 GPS module. They had no idea it was an issue.
Great video nice things are coming out from HDZERO .
Thank you! I look forward to seeing what they come up with next :)
My caddx nebula pro didn't make it through me learning freestyle. I mean it works still but something is causing a camera outage I'm not sure but I'm not worried since I am fairly certain I can repair it.
Hot diggidy damn, that looks great. Will be upgrading my Crux35 with that puppy soon enough....
gonna be a pretty sweet ride with a full watt of low latency in it!
This wont fit the Crux. Better try a flyfish, grinderino or apex mini.
I'm still lurking in the shadows... was hoping they'd have done this over a year ago... better late than never? This will actually fit that frame I designed
yeah at least we finally got one, lol. It has been a long time coming, and helluh needed for sure! Ima have to check that frame out some day buddy :)
if only I had HDZ goggles.
I already have a snail sitting on my skyzones
I was finally able to get my own set after saving for 8 months, lol. Now I am in the waiting game for how long they will take to get here though :p
Tipically that used to take about 2 months when googles just came out. Lately they sent me some cameras in 2 weeks.
Awesome vtx, can you tell me the screw size of the screw that are used to hold the unit together? is it m1.6x14? this way i could buy larger screws and use the 03 holes on my frame to mount this vtx :)
As best I can tell, you are right on the money with the sizing. They appear to be m1.6 and given they run through the whole case 14mm should be accurate. I will get my calipers out when I can and double check though.
@@BaconNinjaFPV you are awesome, would save me a lot of headache when attaching the unit to my siren f3 split frame if these screws line up with the 03 air unit ones in the frame and have the the right size :D
Hi, what is the best way to play back your hdzero recording?
If you are talking about on your PC off the SD card, I find that VLC media player handles the TS format the best :)
I broke down to total goo goo gaa gaa baby speak when you whipped out the new VTx:
_Who's a powa ful widdle vee tee ex? You are! Are you gonna go poopies? Gawd I hope not you expensive little..._
lol
lolol....why can I see this scene play out in my head...make it stoooooooop! :p
Does this camera need a different lens to use 1080p without vignetting?
How about onboard mic capability ?
Got one, I'm still very concerned about the temperature its reaching (as did the V1, etc)
it is still a hot boi, that is for sure. I would say it gets just as hot as the V1 did under the same conditions.
@@BaconNinjaFPV True. I think they might have been able to further reduce the metal amount but fin it more for greater surface dissipation area. Its a tough case, possibly over tough. For now I have slapped it in a Diatone Roma 4" where it fits very nicely, whereas the V1 did not, at all! Oh, and power level for power level, it seems a bit better reception and less prone to speckle white pixels when challenged behind obstacles. Not tried to unlock it, assume its the same process.
abandoning the freestyle v1 on my long range because of gps interference. is there less rf noise on the v2?
Why no onboard recording?
for me the HDzero's biggest flaw is its breakup, I can't fly through it, it reminds me of analog but a bit scarier because it gets really bad really fast, and the times when it looks "good" its never static free. I may feel different if it gave me a clear image for most line of sight flights, but I can't even get that out of it.
yeah it does have some unique breakup, that is for sure. For some pilots it isn't a deal breaker, but I totally get where you are coming from. For me, I almost never have an issue line of sight beyond a couple of speckles here or there...but when I get behind some greenery all bets are off, lol.
If you want decent penetration you will need: the most powerful vtx, triple feed antennas, use LowBand, 560@90 mode.
How is the range?
It is basically identically comparable to the V1 as far as range goes. I still get break up when behind wet trees and super low down in grass, but when I have line of sight I can get out to several thousand feet without issue. I know it can do much more than that, I am just limited by the area I have available for flying.
HDzero should hit the long range group and make a high Watt VTx for long range. 3w or something with copper cooling fins and fan
lets see how small of a frame we can jam this in
piiiivooottttt! lol :p ...hopefully you get that Friends reference.
Don't run hdzero, but your damn entertaining!
Well I appreciate that :)
Shrink ray! 🤘
they have to be hoarding one somewhere!
Ordered 😅
I really hope you enjoy it! :)
@@BaconNinjaFPV Me too 🤣
I'm looking forward to try 90hz mode.
Thanks for your videos
Does this vtx work with goggles v2?
vista is literally bullet proof so I will be curious to hear how this survives over the long haul for folks.(i dont hdzero)
Bingin Bacon Ninja
It sounds like I might need to start a support and recovery group, lol
I said hit the tiny button..not the button that says tiny...lol
why did you make the "tiny" button big? lolol
Just rip a vista or 03 I've never had hd0 I understand lower latency is important to some, I'm just one of those people who doesn't care I'm that good at FPV
nano 90 can not run at 1080 30 .. that what ryan say.
You are absolutely correct! I had a bit of a mix up with the reference documents. The VTX supports it, however the bundled cam does not. I am issuing a correction in a pin :)
show me
Its needs a usb for updatinf 100% too many ghetto solutions on this system
Doubtful at this point anyone other than foxeer will make anything hd..its divimath thats it they bette rget used to being it because they are it