Still waiting my email to pay the headset or, at least, some answers when I contact you using the chat.. from the very first day of pre-orders and I have no idea how it's going with my order.
Please Pimax, as you mention the negatives of other lenses, you should also mention the negatives of aspherics. As an owner of both Quest Pro and Pimax Crystal, the fact is that QPro has true edge-to-edge clarity ve the Crystal doesn’t. I had to learn this through research that the aspheric lenses will never provide the same edge-to-edge clarity as pancake lenses can, simply due to physics. Having said all this, my daily driver is the Pimax Crystal for flying and racing. I had to get over the fact that there is a sweet spot, like I used to have in the Reverb G2, one that I didn’t need to worry about in the QPro. But yes, colours and resolution are definitely superior in the Crystal, and it makes me look around in awe everytime
Almalence has proved in public testing that chromatic aberration of aspheric lenses can be fixed in software. Please Pimax give almalence a chance. I gladly pay extra for "more perfect" image in my crystal.
I agree that glass aspheric lenses are the best and I knew this way back in the PSVR 1 days. This is also why the vive-gearVR lens mod was used by so many people. I don't know why the entire industry took a 7 year break from using glass aspheric lenses, but I'm glad its an option again.
You know what would make your glass aspheric lenses even better? Dynamic lens correction. 😉 Omniwhatever's recent review of the wide FOV lenses using a trial version of the Almalence plugin made for them showed a dramatic improvement in reducing the main issue with aspheric lenses, chromatic aberration. They changed those lenses from something not as desirable due to the distortion issues into something people might actually consider. Pimax please reconsider having this feature on your headsets. Many people who tried the Almalence plugin have expressed the desire to even pay additional money to have this feature and that was just with the normal FOV lenses. The improvement for them in reducing CA and improving clarity was that significant to them. Honestly you guys are leaving superior visual quality on the table by not using it. It would also help make the Crystal a more appealing alternative to the Crystal Light and more worth the extra money. You could look into developing your own solution if Almalence is too expensive. Also by implementing and testing that out on the Crystal (like much of the other tech you're using now), you'd have something more polished and refined by the time the Crystal Super releases which would help give it a leg up over its competitors. The value of this tech could be carried forward to all future headsets with eye tracking, giving them the best visuals possible with the lenses they have. And just imagine what you could achieve with the 12K using that tech. As demonstrated by the wide FOV lenses, it's not going to be easy to achieve ultra-wide FOV with excellent clarity. Dynamic lens correction could yield a dramatic improvement in clarity/sharpness and reducing distortion with those lenses. You could have the best of both worlds. Please give it some thought, thanks.
I was going to buy some aftermarket prescription lenses to use with the Pimax Crystal Light. But, I heard it pushes your head further away and you may lose FOV. So I will use Contact Lenses instead. I want to get the most FOV out of it as I can. 😉👌🤓👍🤗
I have had other VR headsets but never a Pimax. But I know you guys are pushing VR forward in leaps and bounds, so power to you, keep up the good work. Great explanation👍
What is the FOV on the Crystal light? I heard its small but there were some lenses you could buy that would make it big again? For me the whole point of PIMAX was the wide FOV
0:45 "you are just in your room" - haha, snarky subtle shade thrown ... but it also applies to inertia from heavy headsets. Well, based on this info video, I think the Crystal Super is the one I'll probably want, but really I want the 12K, so I'm not sure whether to get Crystal Wireless with wide FoV instead of Super and then just use that until 12K is ready! Confusing choices, especially as I love my 8KX, though it's true that the Fresnel rays are annoying...
Hi, we mentioned this in our update last month, a new production mold is made and we're working on producing bigger batches: pimax.com/blogs/blogs/pimax-progress-update-may-15
Thank you! And the big FOV lenses are under production and coming as soon as we can. We've now upgraded our mold for bigger batches: pimax.com/blogs/blogs/pimax-progress-update-may-15
How about Barrel Distortion form aspheric lenses? All that said, I'd buy a headset if you could make it a bit smaller. The Crystal Light doesn't need to be that big, even if it weighs less than the Crystal.
It's not small but it has a hard backstrap which is pretty comfortable (way more comfortable than a soft backstrap) and weight is more important than size (esp. for pcvr because you're not traveling with it anyway)
They are obviously using the same design of the Crystal to save costs and use the same production lines as the Crystal. Redesigning the headset would have been very inconvenient and cost them a lot of money. YOu need to wait for their next gen for a redesign.
@@PimaxVR Are they going to be real pancakes? Why would you use pancakes when you have room to use regular optics. Pancakes have only one benefit, the size. And come with a lot of drawbacks. Does not make sense to use them on the Super, as there is plenty room for conventional non folding optics. Or is there some reason to use folding optics?
So you're basically saying that if the customer wants the greater FoV lenses you're making for the Crystal, they're SOL... Also, if you don't provide a prescription option of lenses for the customer, then they have to go to aftermarket, or wear glasses, which brings their eyes further away from the lenses and reduces their FoV. So.. like..... How are people who need to wear glasses or have to rely on aftermarket covers for prescriptions benefitting from your design choice....?
I wear prescription glasses. I have had to purchase aftermarket prescription lenses for all my headsets. My Vive Pro, HP Reverb G2 V2, Quest 3, PSVR2. I even had to get prescription lenses made for my Xreal Air 2 Pro glasses. But, I don't believe I will get aftermarket prescription lenses for the Pimax Crystal Light. I will use contact lenses instead. I don't want to lose any FOV at all, seeing how you don't get as much as the older Pimax Headsets. It definitely sucks getting old and needing to wear glasses. 🤓👍 Note: Once you purchase the Pimax Crystal Light it is yours you can do what you want with it. If you would like to swap out the lenses. I don't see why you couldn't. You can still remove the lenses. It may require some modifications but, I am sure it is possible. But, I don't believe I will be doing that. I heard the Wide FOV lenses weren't that good. But, I don't know this for sure.
"Better edge to edge" But quest 3 is better edge to edge than crystal and that uses pancake. Obviously I still think crystal is better overall, but the quest 3 really is the gold standard for edge to edge right now.
exactly this.. I'm selling my og crystal and keeping the q3 just a better at everything else over the crystal except for the res but it's still fairly close for me a definitely enough especially with the pancake lenses
@@jamierichards925 come on... a quest 3 has terrible blacks vs the Crystal as it has no local dimming. Also the compression is evident on a Quest 3 vs the uncompressed DP connection of the Crystal Light. Also Quest 3 audio is terrible vs the Pimax DMAS option. So, saying "Quest 3 is better at everything else except for the res" is just a false statement on your part.
@@somerandomperson8282the compression with the official link cable and 950mb bitrate at max resolution in any games i have played is not evedent even skyrim which usually sucks for compression especiallyif your one that soley uses wireless ( would notice it in some when running stock setting like all grey road texture etc but not 950) and black levels don't make much a diffremce for me at especially when brightness is turned down a lil for darker games like phasmophobia or space sims and I run VR ears off ear headphones on my bobovr s3 headstrap or vive deluxe audio strap depending on what I'm doing so again the sound on the crystal is nothing special in comparison in the end I'm aloud to have my opinion and you yours. quest 3 is a far better all rounder and a better price also so win win for 95% of people and the 5% pixel counters can have the crystal lol I tried hard to like the crystal due to spending so much more on it over my q3 but in the end if it's that hard for me to choose between the 2 why should I go with the one that cost so much more for a slight bump in visual clarity with beautiful chromatic aberration lol
@@somerandomperson8282 Much lighter, take up less space, have a larger sweet spot, and a bit better edge image. BTW the upcoming Pimax Super OLED will have pancake lens. The only downside is that they don’t let as much light through them so probably need the screen brightness turned up a bit.
I would rather pancake , the edge to edge clarity is much better on q3 pancake lenses I can't stand the chromatic aberration that comes from the crystal aspheric lenses
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Still waiting my email to pay the headset or, at least, some answers when I contact you using the chat.. from the very first day of pre-orders and I have no idea how it's going with my order.
Please Pimax, as you mention the negatives of other lenses, you should also mention the negatives of aspherics. As an owner of both Quest Pro and Pimax Crystal, the fact is that QPro has true edge-to-edge clarity ve the Crystal doesn’t. I had to learn this through research that the aspheric lenses will never provide the same edge-to-edge clarity as pancake lenses can, simply due to physics. Having said all this, my daily driver is the Pimax Crystal for flying and racing. I had to get over the fact that there is a sweet spot, like I used to have in the Reverb G2, one that I didn’t need to worry about in the QPro. But yes, colours and resolution are definitely superior in the Crystal, and it makes me look around in awe everytime
Almalence has proved in public testing that chromatic aberration of aspheric lenses can be fixed in software. Please Pimax give almalence a chance. I gladly pay extra for "more perfect" image in my crystal.
That through the lenses footage was amazing !
I agree that glass aspheric lenses are the best and I knew this way back in the PSVR 1 days. This is also why the vive-gearVR lens mod was used by so many people. I don't know why the entire industry took a 7 year break from using glass aspheric lenses, but I'm glad its an option again.
mainly cause of weight
You know what would make your glass aspheric lenses even better? Dynamic lens correction. 😉
Omniwhatever's recent review of the wide FOV lenses using a trial version of the Almalence plugin made for them showed a dramatic improvement in reducing the main issue with aspheric lenses, chromatic aberration. They changed those lenses from something not as desirable due to the distortion issues into something people might actually consider.
Pimax please reconsider having this feature on your headsets. Many people who tried the Almalence plugin have expressed the desire to even pay additional money to have this feature and that was just with the normal FOV lenses. The improvement for them in reducing CA and improving clarity was that significant to them. Honestly you guys are leaving superior visual quality on the table by not using it. It would also help make the Crystal a more appealing alternative to the Crystal Light and more worth the extra money. You could look into developing your own solution if Almalence is too expensive.
Also by implementing and testing that out on the Crystal (like much of the other tech you're using now), you'd have something more polished and refined by the time the Crystal Super releases which would help give it a leg up over its competitors. The value of this tech could be carried forward to all future headsets with eye tracking, giving them the best visuals possible with the lenses they have.
And just imagine what you could achieve with the 12K using that tech. As demonstrated by the wide FOV lenses, it's not going to be easy to achieve ultra-wide FOV with excellent clarity. Dynamic lens correction could yield a dramatic improvement in clarity/sharpness and reducing distortion with those lenses. You could have the best of both worlds.
Please give it some thought, thanks.
I was going to buy some aftermarket prescription lenses to use with the Pimax Crystal Light. But, I heard it pushes your head further away and you may lose FOV. So I will use Contact Lenses instead. I want to get the most FOV out of it as I can. 😉👌🤓👍🤗
I have had other VR headsets but never a Pimax. But I know you guys are pushing VR forward in leaps and bounds, so power to you, keep up the good work. Great explanation👍
What is the FOV on the Crystal light? I heard its small but there were some lenses you could buy that would make it big again? For me the whole point of PIMAX was the wide FOV
will there be any video published for London Roadshow Pimax, I unfortunately could not get to...., thank you!
Waiting for Amazon Canada sale to buy Crystal Light.
What do you mean by the lenses are fixed in the light? There is no IPD adjustment?
0:45 "you are just in your room" - haha, snarky subtle shade thrown ... but it also applies to inertia from heavy headsets.
Well, based on this info video, I think the Crystal Super is the one I'll probably want, but really I want the 12K, so I'm not sure whether to get Crystal Wireless with wide FoV instead of Super and then just use that until 12K is ready!
Confusing choices, especially as I love my 8KX, though it's true that the Fresnel rays are annoying...
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Great explanation and video. I pre-ordered Crystal and am still waiting for my wide view lenses? When will you be shipping them out?
Hi, we mentioned this in our update last month, a new production mold is made and we're working on producing bigger batches: pimax.com/blogs/blogs/pimax-progress-update-may-15
@@PimaxVR Cool, thanks I must have missed it. Have a great day!
Good and very interesting video. Unfortunately, I have been waiting for months to order the big FOV lenses.
Thank you! And the big FOV lenses are under production and coming as soon as we can. We've now upgraded our mold for bigger batches: pimax.com/blogs/blogs/pimax-progress-update-may-15
Whats the focal distance on the pimax light? Again weird 1m or 2m like all the other hmds?
How about Barrel Distortion form aspheric lenses? All that said, I'd buy a headset if you could make it a bit smaller. The Crystal Light doesn't need to be that big, even if it weighs less than the Crystal.
It's not small but it has a hard backstrap which is pretty comfortable (way more comfortable than a soft backstrap) and weight is more important than size (esp. for pcvr because you're not traveling with it anyway)
They are obviously using the same design of the Crystal to save costs and use the same production lines as the Crystal. Redesigning the headset would have been very inconvenient and cost them a lot of money. YOu need to wait for their next gen for a redesign.
Yeah but for me the important things are that it's smaller and cheaper
i want to buy crystal light but the site writes to me that there is no shipping to dubai 😢😢😢😢😢😢
Waiting on the 15mm facial foam to be in stock before I order - for prescription lenses.
I would still lke to see a Pimax Pancake option.
Wait for our Crystal Super Micro-Oled!
@@PimaxVR Ya, now you're talking, lol!
@@PimaxVR already preordered
@@PimaxVR Are they going to be real pancakes? Why would you use pancakes when you have room to use regular optics. Pancakes have only one benefit, the size. And come with a lot of drawbacks. Does not make sense to use them on the Super, as there is plenty room for conventional non folding optics. Or is there some reason to use folding optics?
@@PimaxVR Ya, def looking forward to that! I've now preordered the Super OLED btw.
The only thing the Crystal Light is missing is an option for eye tracking and I have seen people writing the same on Reddit!
Have a Quest Pro and Crystal here. Pancake is far better but aspheric is not a bad choice although
@DawidDoesTechStuff (667K subs) has started sim racing and is disappointed with his Quest 3. Maybe open his eyes with the lend of a Crystal
good explanations!
and what are you planning with the super ? pancakes.
So you're basically saying that if the customer wants the greater FoV lenses you're making for the Crystal, they're SOL...
Also, if you don't provide a prescription option of lenses for the customer, then they have to go to aftermarket, or wear glasses, which brings their eyes further away from the lenses and reduces their FoV. So.. like..... How are people who need to wear glasses or have to rely on aftermarket covers for prescriptions benefitting from your design choice....?
Buy a normal crystal. Cheers
I wear prescription glasses.
I have had to purchase aftermarket prescription lenses for all my headsets. My Vive Pro, HP Reverb G2 V2, Quest 3, PSVR2. I even had to get prescription lenses made for my Xreal Air 2 Pro glasses. But, I don't believe I will get aftermarket prescription lenses for the Pimax Crystal Light. I will use contact lenses instead. I don't want to lose any FOV at all, seeing how you don't get as much as the older Pimax Headsets. It definitely sucks getting old and needing to wear glasses. 🤓👍
Note: Once you purchase the Pimax Crystal Light it is yours you can do what you want with it. If you would like to swap out the lenses. I don't see why you couldn't. You can still remove the lenses. It may require some modifications but, I am sure it is possible. But, I don't believe I will be doing that. I heard the Wide FOV lenses weren't that good. But, I don't know this for sure.
"Better edge to edge" But quest 3 is better edge to edge than crystal and that uses pancake. Obviously I still think crystal is better overall, but the quest 3 really is the gold standard for edge to edge right now.
exactly this.. I'm selling my og crystal and keeping the q3 just a better at everything else over the crystal except for the res but it's still fairly close for me a definitely enough especially with the pancake lenses
@@jamierichards925 come on... a quest 3 has terrible blacks vs the Crystal as it has no local dimming. Also the compression is evident on a Quest 3 vs the uncompressed DP connection of the Crystal Light. Also Quest 3 audio is terrible vs the Pimax DMAS option. So, saying "Quest 3 is better at everything else except for the res" is just a false statement on your part.
@@somerandomperson8282the compression with the official link cable and 950mb bitrate at max resolution in any games i have played is not evedent even skyrim which usually sucks for compression especiallyif your one that soley uses wireless ( would notice it in some when running stock setting like all grey road texture etc but not 950) and black levels don't make much a diffremce for me at especially when brightness is turned down a lil for darker games like phasmophobia or space sims and I run VR ears off ear headphones on my bobovr s3 headstrap or vive deluxe audio strap depending on what I'm doing so again the sound on the crystal is nothing special in comparison
in the end I'm aloud to have my opinion and you yours.
quest 3 is a far better all rounder and a better price also so win win for 95% of people and the 5% pixel counters can have the crystal lol
I tried hard to like the crystal due to spending so much more on it over my q3 but in the end if it's that hard for me to choose between the 2 why should I go with the one that cost so much more for a slight bump in visual clarity with beautiful chromatic aberration lol
@@somerandomperson8282 maybe his eyes are bad lol, I can't wait to ditch my quest 3 for the crystal light
Shut Up And Take My Money!
Pancake are still best imop. Pimax, please go there soonQ
Why do you think pancake are the best?
@@somerandomperson8282 Much lighter, take up less space, have a larger sweet spot, and a bit better edge image. BTW the upcoming Pimax Super OLED will have pancake lens. The only downside is that they don’t let as much light through them so probably need the screen brightness turned up a bit.
nice
I would rather pancake , the edge to edge clarity is much better on q3 pancake lenses I can't stand the chromatic aberration that comes from the crystal aspheric lenses
Now let's talk about chromatic aberration. yaaay :D
that was conveniently left out :)
Don’t buy this you will regret
Why?
Which one are you talking about?
I wanted a comparison, not propaganda