That instructor was so nice, focused on her students, and positive. She actually made me feel like maybe I could learn to dive... as I'm sitting here in my bathrobe with a mouthful of cereal.
Absolutely you can. Find an instructor you feel comfortable with. Start in a pool & when you're ready you'll do a shallow safe dive & love it & you'll be hooked 🐟 🐠
omg, just do it!!! you won't regret it! It's like an escape from the human world into another realm. Like a drug, so relaxing, so beautiful, and a nice escape from our hectic modern lifestyles. After a good dive, i'm like in zen mode the rest of the day
I love woody but honestly how can Gus not be your favorite??Woody is hilarious and clearly an expert, but Gus is so patient with him, makes me love Gus.
Gus you are looking so good!!!!! I haven't had a video from dive talk come up in a little while, but I wanna say how awesome and healthy and much more happy you look! 💕
I LOVE THESE DUDES. Woody is so funny (both intentionally and unintentionally) and Gus seems like the greatest friend and he is very patient with woody.
I once met a lady on a resort dive who was intent on geeting PADI 'Master Scuba Diver' on her 50th dive. Among her 5 specialities to qualify were PADI Aware, Underwater Photographer and Fish ID. In terms of situational awareness and basic skills, well it was horrifying. Even more worrying was that she then considered not only that she had nothing more to learn but there was nothing more to learn. Last year at the same resort I was buddied with a new OW diver and she was great despite only having 10 dives. Great attitude, willing to learn, always wanting to know how to get better. She I did buddy with more than once.
@@nomadpurple6154 Quite the reverse. I believe we as divers should always try to improve our skills, myself very much included. I don't understand the mindset of anyone who considers their journey over after 50 dives in a benign environment.
I think with scuba diving there is always something to learn. But yeah I have seen someone who thought that they knew it all but had done under 60 dives. Its scary. And a bit off putting.
"No one likes taking their mask off first time." Too true. When I was still teaching, I would get 'problem students' from a couple other instructors for remedial lessons. Actually it was just one instructor who called them 'problem students', and curiously the majority of students I had for remedial lessons were from him. One of the most common problems was with mask off drills, and it was always an easy fix for me; I just had to teach them the skill... correctly. I also helped him in pool sessions a couple times when he had classes too large to handle on his own, and I immediately saw why he was getting so many of these 'problem students', and I have to say his demonstration of skills really sucked. Turns out they weren't 'problem students' after all, just a problem instructor. I've also seen him passing students on skills they didn't complete satisfactorily. I've been accused before (not by students, but by instructors) of being quite strict, and that may be so, but I doubt any of my students would have problems when they're out diving.
Being strict and making sure your students complete the skills to a good standard isn't a bad thing. There are degrees to everything of course, but I think it says more about the instructor making the accusation because it probably shows their standards aren't as high as yours.
Ohhhh, I didn’t know this video was going to be about Colby & Sam. They are Supernatural hunters, but I never expected them to do this to check out a ship wreck.
I havent watched you guys for a while and found myself missing you both like old friends. Out of all the RUclips content this has to be my favorite channel which is a bit wierd because Im not even a scuba diver or cave diver. I have claustrophobia pretty bad and I still find your content interesting. I think your approach to diving contains a real truth, logic and common sense approach that is phenomenal. Gus, Woody you guys are just like old friends. Im glad youre here for us all. Keep going. If you ever need anything let me know. Thank you, Kurt
I love this instructor! Not only was she super focused on them and their safety you can see her planning and explaining the wreck before they go under. Love that! Preparations!
As a PADI Advanced Open Water Certified diver I do not consider myself Advanced even after 50 Dives. I am so thankful you guys talk honestly about limits and making sure that people take the right precautions in this wonderful sport. And I have seen someone puke through their regulator a couple of times so that was a relief to see the good practices and some more that I need to pay attention to as I dive in the future.
I truly believe it has everything to do with the individual and the indivuals training instructors, and almost nothing to do with the organization through which they recieve training and certification. Im an open water certified diver under PADI, and though I would be able to get my advanced cert at any time, I wouldn't consider myself advanced or anywhere near advance just because of that label. It's just that, a label, used to identify escalating levels of training within an organization. It's like an AP Physics class in highschool, once finishing that course you're not an advanced physicist, youve just taken a more advanced course than the beginners physics course. I love divetalk, and I see where they're coming from with what they're saying, but I think they're showing a bias for their own organization here, while sort of misrepresenting or misunderstanding the training system of PADI, which they even acknowledged as the biggest dive organization in the world. Little unfair. You should not go by somebody's label when diving, you should go by their experience level and exhibited knowledge/skill level. I'll be considering myself a beginner well after I get my advanced open water cert., as I'm sure most non ego driven divers would too.
We had an "advanced" diver join us on a drift dive with tigers and bullsharks (zambezis) off the coast of South Africa. He logged all 30 of his dives inland and has never dived in the ocean. He got lost 10mins into our dive and it turned into a S&R recovery dive instead. We eventually found him, but he seemed quite rattled. Good training for the rest of us at least.
Hey guys, they did the RUclips thing and overdramatized this a lot, like "clickbaiting" through the whole video, but it was a bit too much of it yes, as always, good to hear your thoughts!
@@rolf-smit Same, which would've been a shame too, because the instructor in that video seemed really cool, such positive energy there. And still the boys made the video to seem like "oh, we're not going to make it" etc etc, almost a disservice to such a great personality the instructor has
@@siindree You gotta dangle the clickbait keys and over dramatization to keep our 15 second attention span busy. One critique of the original video is that it needs more Subway Surfers.
He looks like the random guy who wonders in in the middle of the movie when the heroes are all freaking out and in a hurry and he’s just taking his time and like oh yeah, you need this last piece of the puzzle, this key piece of equipment? I’ll totally give it to you but come have a drink with me first. And they ask if they know him and he’s just like nah, I’m sure you don’t. And never gives a name. 😂
Man it's always a joy seeing you guys post a video. I just got into scuba and freediving, can't wait for my first courses. You guys have awakened my old passion of being in the water, thank you very much.
Hey Woody & Gus, a user named robbieschmittner9781 is uploading your videos as if they were his own. Definitely deserves a copyright infringement claim. I tried to report but it looks like it needs to be from the content owner.
It takes more than 9 goes at anything to be considered advanced, especially with something as technical as diving, in my opinion It’d be like saying someone who has taken 9 classes at ballet is now advanced, and ready to dance for the company
I’ve been diving for 20 years this year, and have got advanced qualification, and I still feel like “oh I need to get my buoyancy better”, “oh my air consumption isn’t great”. I wouldn’t say I’m an advanced diver outside of the qualification haha
I'm certified thru padi, owd, diver level 2. My husband was certified ssi for the same credentials. When people ask me I tell them to PLEASE go the route he took and not the one I did. The two are NOT the same. Mine was like a day class at a resort and then 30 minutes in a pool and next thing you know we're in the open water lol. I'm better today but those first few dives were sketchy af. Dangerous. My husband's experience with training was night and day compared to mine. You can see the difference to this day in our separate confidence levels. I haven't dived in a couple years and honestly I feel I shouldn't until I take another course through ssi and not padi this time.
Wanted to add that I'm sure not all padi certs are the same. Mine was at a resort on our honeymoon in 2015 not in the US. 😂 not the way to do it imo. I didn't realize how unprepared and untrained was until I started watching dive talk a while back. That's what's scary. The class and the card makes you think you're ready. But I guess my nerves were definitely intuition telling me I need more training because I received highly inadequate training. Have I managed to survive and have successful dives yes. But that's with everything going right. If something went wrong I don't know if I'd have the training to survive.
My PADI owd was like a month and half, class and pool every week. Then the 4 sea dives. I did also the padi AOWD on padi (after 50 dives) and then changed to SSI and I'm master diver and doing dive guide to be dive master. Next steps extended range and instructor assistance. I'm doing this as an hobby.
fear is important. I'm beginning whitewater kayaking. On my first 3 river trips, I didn't flip... so I had this false confidence built up lol, thinking that I could just keep taking on harder rapids and doing crazier things, and would never bother to put on my nose plug because the fear of flipping was fading. Well... then I flipped. Without the nose plug... as soon as I went down, my nose flooded with water, I pulled my skirt but I was upside down in the dark tumultuous waters, swirling around not knowing which way was up, all the while my nasal cavities filled with water, basically I was drowning. When I finally found the surface for that sweet sweet relief... I couldn't even get it because my nose was filled with water, and trying to suck in oxygen through my mouth was just not working. Let me tell you... the fear was put into me at that moment. After that, I took a step back, and now I always have my nose plug in when going over rapids or trying to surf waves. I can't have that happen again... thanks, fear. lol.
My advanced open water checkout dives taken right after my initial cert was average depth of 78 feet. The instructor explained the reason he does that is because that's where most dives will be for the area off jupiter inlet. So learning to dive the most common conditions for the area was a good thing. I agree with that sentiment. Going to sixty feet with the reef 15-20 feet below you wouldn't be much fun and he knows people are going to head to the bottom where everything is. That was through NAUI, I'm not sure what their actual rules are since it's been so long since I got those certs.
The Garibaldi are so orange and so bright in the water in Catalina so clear when you get off the boat in the harbor, you can see them from the surface when they’re 30-40 feet down it’s incredible
I’m a new diver and got hooked to your channel a few days ago. I don’t know if I’ll ever become a cave diver but I’m learning sooo much from your videos. And it’s making me appreciate all the people that do rescue as well! I love your style and the way you thoroughly explain things without making it too heavy. Keep going, great job!
Yes, in California, steel tanks are commonly used since it’s pretty cold water and you need 10 mm wetsuits plus 3 mm vests. Have dived off that boat at Catalina Island many, many times!!! Love diving in kelp and feeding kelp to the abalone. It’s really awesome when you come across Giant Black Sea Bass. The ship wreck is the Yukon, which was sunk as part of the San Diego reef program. Prior to sinking, large holes were cut into the sides to allow swim through. That viz on the Yukon was wild; it’s usually a low viz dive (braille diving sometimes!). Training in California prepares you to be confident diving just about anywhere.
@DIVE TALK Gus. i stand with you on the underwater suicide. firstly i think it's important that you stated clearly a couple times that you thought it was more likely not a suicide. you did not say he was murdered, you merely remarked that according to your knowledge and experience, it seems unlikely that it was suicide. in general you seem down to Earth and i think you and Woody offset each other very well. p.s i am a non-diver with an overwhelming fear of water, but watching your videos, i see you guys dive so calmly and in control that it makes me feel like i could do it. from watching you guys i feel like ive taken a dive course. not a practical course with experience but a college course of education. you guys are great teachers and ive leaned so much from you it's insane! peace
I love that they're going the right way about it...learning through a great instructor with a healthy fear and respect of diving, not watching a few RUclips vids, renting some gear and going for it
I remember my first open water dive, it was in the Sound, over on Long Island, any one who dives in NY knows the water is always dark and silted looking it’s like diving in a open cave, not to mention the wrecks we have here, in the old shipping lanes, so when we started caving it was like second nature. But my first open water dive was at like 4Am in the morning, still darkish, cold, I was terrified and excited the greatest feeling in the world, and I look for that feeling in every hobby I do. I love the first feeling 😂
Hey Woody & Gus! I haven't been here on your channel since last year. I immediately noticed Gus' face is much thinner. Wow!! Good Job!!! I know how hard of a journey that is to go down, so I commend you!! Your family will have you around for much longer now. I hope this is an inspiration to all! BTW I'm back watching now on a regular basis again. Maybe one day I'll find my mojo to learn to scuba dive. Thanks for letting us all live vicariously through you two!
Woody, Gus, or this instructor are the only people, I would trust to teach me. Especially Woody, because his calm demeanor/energy, would help with my anxiety. That's a lot of why I watch the videos. Not only are they extremely knowledgeable and funny, but I feel like the more I learn, the less panicked I would be if I took classes. The craziest part is I am an extremely strong swimmer.
I understand his salt comment, Learning in a pool, then my check-out dive in the quarry, I didn't realize how much the salt would affect my diving until my first real open-water boat dive in the ocean. It took a little time to acclimate to the salt water in my eyes and mouth when mask clearing or switching regulators.
Woody looks like he's a retiree living his golden years in Florida about to take his poodle for a 7am walk down the beach on his way to pick up a wheat bagel and decaf coffee 😂😂😂😂
I have just recently discovered this channel and I am hooked. I have binge watched Dive Talk for a couple of weeks now and I have learned a LOT in a short amount of time. Great Job guys. Keep it up. Don't worry about pausing videos. The more you pause and talk, the more I learn. I would like to get scuba certified. Are there any dive schools in the southeast US that you would recommend?
You forgot to add the followup video, Gus! That aside, this was another phenomenal presentation. Thank you for sharing, as usual, fellas. Much appreciated. Keep up the great work!
Gus and woody I just want you guys to know you guys are my favorite dudes on RUclips and I would love to someday learn under Woody and Gus to be able to do the things you guys do!! It’s absolutely inspiring.
@divetalk thanks for making me spend over $5k in the last 2 days. I just purchased all my dive gear and have my classes for my open water and Nitrox certifications starting tomorrow. I used some of your older video's to help choose what gear to buy. Some of my gear includes the Shearwood Teric with AI, i know its expensive but i wanted one that would easily grow with me. Also i have been diving before so i know im going to dive regularly, im in South florida. My BC is the Axiom, reg is a helix pro, fins are the quattro plus, and my mask is the paragon. I want to thank both of you for inspiring me to get my certs and do it safely. Woodys florida ovean dive video is what made me finally do it. Im watching the video, thinking thats awesome. Then i thought about how dumb i am, i live right where he was diving.
I love that you did this video feels like to worlds of mine crossing I have watched Sam and Colby for years and they really do try and do things the right way and give the correct information unless they are mislead probably was told he had 3min of air left. Love this vid!
They're not full specialties though but the summarized versions. Divers who complete Rescue plus 5 full specialties of their choice get Master Scuba Diver certified. Unfortunately it's not experience based so Master should be taken with a big grain of salt. I wish PADI used a different naming scheme.
I wish I finished the course after doing the open class introduction. Learned the signals, clearing your regulator and reaching the spare one, taking off and clearing your mask, regulating buoyancy and not touching the bottom, not using your hands. Think I missed out on many great dives in all those years, maybe never cave diving but deep sea or even open water would have bin cool. Especially everytime I watch all of you guys vids. Love your channel and love your personal dives on the vids. Great job, love to see what I might have missed. Sicily open water diving was beautiful tho👍😁
I just want to say to Gus you look amazing. Idk if you talk about this or not but I'm a new fan of this channel, not a diver, but you both drew me in and I am obsessed watching now and I've looked at videos from a year even 2 years ago and just started watching recent ones now and I can tell you have lost weight and I just wanna say you look amazing, props to you! Love you guys!❤
The reality is that the video being reviewed was made for views, not to represent reality. They were never in any danger, the entire story was fabricated for entertainment.
one thing I liked about my instructors is that they had a strict no students can wear cameras during the open water checkout dive. It keeps students from getting distracted and helps them pay attention and focus on the skills. Not gonna lie, I wish I had a video of my check out dive, but I know I would have gotten distracted trying to manage my gopro at the same time as doing my skill drills.
13:40 They probably lied about it beaing 80 feet, I'll continue watching and see if they prove it or not. 16:30 I'm sure instructor is the one that realized that. 17:00 They also lied about the 3 minute of air left in the tank. (I wouldn't take any of their comments seriously) Please do not hate on the instructor, she seems to have done a great job, If the Tubers didn't ask her for permission to dramaticize the events then they're truly A-holes.
I've been watching Sam & Colby for awhile and it's kind of crazy seeing them here; that they did something absurdly risky though is not surprising. These guys (with various friends and people over the years) used to explore abandoned places, risky abandoned places and encountered some seriously sketchy people. They're good kids for sure, but...yeah, risk takers for sure. I'm glad they came out of it ultimately okay, all things considered.
How is taking a basic scuba diving class « taking a risk »? At that rate, you could talk about taking risks anytime you walk across a road on a crosswalk. But drama apart, they seem to be a nice and fun bunch.
I would travel to wherever this woman teaches because she's amazing and I want to learn from her. She seems fantastic and kind and supportive. I'd take every single class I could from her.
This is obviously a troll video , these guys are way too over the top , they are making it worse then it actually was for like and views. C'mon Gus you should've seen this a mile away. Just from the opening statement "if you are watching this I am dead" lmao C'mon.
Yeah they are geared towards young teens that like these over the top behavior. I unfortunately sometimes hear about them because I'm in the debunking community regarding paranormal fakers.
I have started binge watching your channel and I’m saving for all the gear now. I should have all of my gear by the end of this summer then off to get certified! My main reason for wanting to go is pick crab off the bay floor here in Oregon. You guys rock!
I can barely swim but find myself watching a video from this channel everyday....diving seems so interesting. Doubt it is something I'd do, but I am 100% encouraged to brush up on my swimming so I can enjoy the open waters better.
Regarding the 60' Open Water cert limit, when I did my PADI Open Water class 25 some odd years ago my recollection is that we were told that the 60' basic open water cert limit was because 60' was the max depth for most recreational divers to do a safe out of air controlled emergency swimming ascent on a single/partial breath for a 1 minute ascent. While PADI guidelines currently do not recommend doing CESA from deeper than 30' and I think that was the distance we had to perform a simulation horizontally in the pool back then. But then it's been a lot of years and I may mis-remember that matter.
PADI certified here, though that was over 10 years ago. Went down to 130ft for our deep dive where I did better on my narc test than I did in the boat, LOL. Ran out of air in one of the early shallow dives, which looking back I think is a little sus, IDK maybe I didn't do a good check which is a bit out of character, but I'm a combat vet so I just followed the procedures. I think the "navy seal" master diver instructor was more worried than I was during the accent. I kept signaling him that I'm fine and not freaking out because I was afraid he was going to panic. Anyway the whole thing with "advanced" or any certification level are the individual's skills. Some people are going to be naturals, some will put in the effort to learn, and some clowns will never truly be qualified. Love your channel.
When I did my open water check offs I had to use a weight belt even though my bcd had weight integration because a check off was taking the belt off and putting it back on. Maybe that’s why they have weight belts on.
As a PADI staff instructor, the idea that 2 OW can go out on their own without a professional is insane. I think the minimum cert you could go out without a professional should be Rescue diver someone (or better both) should know how to save the other in the unlikely event of an emergency.
I largley agree, yet the ISO standard for open water diver (or equivalent) is "Autonomos Dive" (level 2). The problems run so much deeper than agency...
I worked as DM and dive guide there in Catalina. It's an environment like others which is a little cold, with a few predators, but mostly the issues in my experience came from over confident divers. The fannying about in my opinion looks a little over confident, but they are young, they did fine overall, it takes a lot of time to build experience, and it's a hostile environment. Nice hat BTW :)
I did my advanced right after my open water. The way i read the course description I thought it was combo of several other certifications courses. Still glad for the exposure it provided but knew right away I'd have to go and develop skills on my own for a while.
On a dive trip in Cozumel, we did 2 dives a day. The deeper dive was first. About 80 feet. Time out on boat or on the beach, then a shallow dive of about 30 feet. first.
I started watching this channel when it was at its beginning and I’m so glad to see the personal development of both of them. Woody is still exuding great fun energies and Gus you are thin! It really looks like you have lost some weight, guess it help with some tight restrictions you used to claim you couldn’t do? All the best lads
I love your reviews, to debunk these videos making out diving to be super dangerous/near death experience, when basic rules and safety protocols are respected to make it a safe and pleasant experience :)
I doubt you guys will ever see this (amazing video as usual, by the way), but I actually have a question... What do you think of Adventures with Purpose? They're a diving youtube channel that specialises in recovering the bodies of missing persons in vehicles from bodies of water. Would be cool to see you guys reacting to one of their videos too, maybe break down what they're doing, why they're doing it, and so on. Their videos are on the longer side, but I think it's worth it nonetheless. Some of them are really interesting.
I think there needs to be a separation in the diver's head between being "Advanced" certified and being an Advanced skilled diver. I've only got about 20 dives under my belt. I consider myself a complete rookie because I just don't get to dive often enough not living near places to dive. Diving is a perishable skill and if you don't do it often enough you will forget things and possibly become unsafe even though you are "certified". They need to teach the right mindset as much as they do skills in dive classes.
California waters. I saw garibaldis ! I prefer steel tanks. Never knew the "3 dive rule", and I've been certified since 1975 (NAUI). Leaving from San Pedro (Los Angeles) to Catalina, you usually have only enough time for 3 dives. Maybe, that's what masked that guideline. 15:55 - Casino in Avalon, CA on Catalina Island. Can get to 110ft there, close to shore. 16:00 - Male sheephead. Good eating !
Woody and Gus, after a year of seeing your videos, give or take, I was encouraged to take my PADI open water diver, last weekend i did the pool sessions, and 2 sessions on open sea also the exam, next weekend I will dive the 60 feet "18 meters" to have my certification, it has been quite a challenge but when I'm down there I remember quite well any of you as the directions of my instructor, taking the mask was quite a challenge I'll give you that, and I need a lot to perfect and a lot to dive to be someone competent while diving , so many thanks for your videos that encourage me for the first step, there are a lot more to experience and to learn. About the video the boys told some interesting stuff, and I was admired with the speed they went to Advanced, I'm not like them i'm double their age, and also have some habits that are not that good for diving, like smoking, but nevertheless, although I do agree that diving gives opportunities to many people to discover, is not just a psychological challenge, me being overweight and having, not so good lungs, reflects on the performance down there, I saw like two accidents on my course, some guy got some horrible pain on his inner eardrum and another, i think by mistake, inflated his BCD completely and had an uncontrollable ascend, lucky that we were just at 7 meters, but diving requires a lot from your physical shape, at least for me, being kneeled on the bottom for like 30 minutes and waiting for others to conclude their exercises was a PAIN, felt like a rag doll specially when i didn't had to much weight to maintain a negative buoyancy and be comfortably kneeling at the bottom, I think my greatest challenge on my next dives is to correct my buoyancy, specially the neutral one, sorry for the long text, my kind regards.
That instructor was so nice, focused on her students, and positive. She actually made me feel like maybe I could learn to dive... as I'm sitting here in my bathrobe with a mouthful of cereal.
Same! Her energy was infectious
Absolutely you can. Find an instructor you feel comfortable with. Start in a pool & when you're ready you'll do a shallow safe dive & love it & you'll be hooked 🐟 🐠
omg, just do it!!! you won't regret it!
It's like an escape from the human world into another realm. Like a drug, so relaxing, so beautiful, and a nice escape from our hectic modern lifestyles. After a good dive, i'm like in zen mode the rest of the day
Divers eat cereal, too!
So positive that she let me acting like clowns underwater. I would certainly not dive with people like them, that's way too dangerous.
I'm a Woody fan. Gotta love a guy who's an expert that can be silly and light-hearted.
same team woody
I love woody but honestly how can Gus not be your favorite??Woody is hilarious and clearly an expert, but Gus is so patient with him, makes me love Gus.
I would say the duo in general is awesome. Like them both in combo the most.
Don’t forget to mention his ultimate collection of hats
It is less wholesome when you know the truth, he eats children to keep up his happy and carefree demeanor.
Gus you are looking so good!!!!! I haven't had a video from dive talk come up in a little while, but I wanna say how awesome and healthy and much more happy you look! 💕
get a room already ;P
First thing I noticed, he looks great
Thank god I was wondering if it was just me noticing that!
Woody's assistant (haha) looks great!
Yeah I've noticed too!
I love Gus' *OK :|* face when something overly dramatic happens and he looks at Woody.
I LOVE THESE DUDES. Woody is so funny (both intentionally and unintentionally) and Gus seems like the greatest friend and he is very patient with woody.
very patient w/ Woody 🤣like he's a kid (he kinda is lol, in a good way)
love Woody, he's such a silly goofball :)
I love it when they argue and Gus has the most hilarious looks on his face and comments Woody and him argue LOL
I once met a lady on a resort dive who was intent on geeting PADI 'Master Scuba Diver' on her 50th dive. Among her 5 specialities to qualify were PADI Aware, Underwater Photographer and Fish ID. In terms of situational awareness and basic skills, well it was horrifying. Even more worrying was that she then considered not only that she had nothing more to learn but there was nothing more to learn.
Last year at the same resort I was buddied with a new OW diver and she was great despite only having 10 dives. Great attitude, willing to learn, always wanting to know how to get better. She I did buddy with more than once.
@@nomadpurple6154 Quite the reverse. I believe we as divers should always try to improve our skills, myself very much included. I don't understand the mindset of anyone who considers their journey over after 50 dives in a benign environment.
@@nomadpurple6154stop projecting
I think with scuba diving there is always something to learn. But yeah I have seen someone who thought that they knew it all but had done under 60 dives. Its scary. And a bit off putting.
Woody and his myriad of hats are the bonus of this channel!! Tourist vibes with all the confidence of rocking it.
"No one likes taking their mask off first time." Too true. When I was still teaching, I would get 'problem students' from a couple other instructors for remedial lessons. Actually it was just one instructor who called them 'problem students', and curiously the majority of students I had for remedial lessons were from him. One of the most common problems was with mask off drills, and it was always an easy fix for me; I just had to teach them the skill... correctly. I also helped him in pool sessions a couple times when he had classes too large to handle on his own, and I immediately saw why he was getting so many of these 'problem students', and I have to say his demonstration of skills really sucked. Turns out they weren't 'problem students' after all, just a problem instructor. I've also seen him passing students on skills they didn't complete satisfactorily. I've been accused before (not by students, but by instructors) of being quite strict, and that may be so, but I doubt any of my students would have problems when they're out diving.
Being strict and making sure your students complete the skills to a good standard isn't a bad thing. There are degrees to everything of course, but I think it says more about the instructor making the accusation because it probably shows their standards aren't as high as yours.
When you're teaching underwater survival skills, there is no such thing as too strict.
Love the respect for dude's openness about his fear.
Ohhhh, I didn’t know this video was going to be about Colby & Sam. They are Supernatural hunters, but I never expected them to do this to check out a ship wreck.
I havent watched you guys for a while and found myself missing you both like old friends. Out of all the RUclips content this has to be my favorite channel which is a bit wierd because Im not even a scuba diver or cave diver. I have claustrophobia pretty bad and I still find your content interesting. I think your approach to diving contains a real truth, logic and common sense approach that is phenomenal. Gus, Woody you guys are just like old friends. Im glad youre here for us all. Keep going. If you ever need anything let me know. Thank you, Kurt
Agreed ❤
Been a Dive Talk member for almost a year now and you guys are so consistently good!
Also Gus looks great, keep it up sirs.
I love this instructor! Not only was she super focused on them and their safety you can see her planning and explaining the wreck before they go under. Love that! Preparations!
As a PADI Advanced Open Water Certified diver I do not consider myself Advanced even after 50 Dives. I am so thankful you guys talk honestly about limits and making sure that people take the right precautions in this wonderful sport. And I have seen someone puke through their regulator a couple of times so that was a relief to see the good practices and some more that I need to pay attention to as I dive in the future.
I truly believe it has everything to do with the individual and the indivuals training instructors, and almost nothing to do with the organization through which they recieve training and certification. Im an open water certified diver under PADI, and though I would be able to get my advanced cert at any time, I wouldn't consider myself advanced or anywhere near advance just because of that label. It's just that, a label, used to identify escalating levels of training within an organization. It's like an AP Physics class in highschool, once finishing that course you're not an advanced physicist, youve just taken a more advanced course than the beginners physics course.
I love divetalk, and I see where they're coming from with what they're saying, but I think they're showing a bias for their own organization here, while sort of misrepresenting or misunderstanding the training system of PADI, which they even acknowledged as the biggest dive organization in the world. Little unfair.
You should not go by somebody's label when diving, you should go by their experience level and exhibited knowledge/skill level. I'll be considering myself a beginner well after I get my advanced open water cert., as I'm sure most non ego driven divers would too.
We had an "advanced" diver join us on a drift dive with tigers and bullsharks (zambezis) off the coast of South Africa. He logged all 30 of his dives inland and has never dived in the ocean. He got lost 10mins into our dive and it turned into a S&R recovery dive instead. We eventually found him, but he seemed quite rattled. Good training for the rest of us at least.
Hey guys, they did the RUclips thing and overdramatized this a lot, like "clickbaiting" through the whole video, but it was a bit too much of it yes, as always, good to hear your thoughts!
Exactly my thought, too much clickbait if it wasn't for Dive Talk I would not have watched anything more then the first 10 seconds.
@@rolf-smit Same, which would've been a shame too, because the instructor in that video seemed really cool, such positive energy there. And still the boys made the video to seem like "oh, we're not going to make it" etc etc, almost a disservice to such a great personality the instructor has
@@siindree You gotta dangle the clickbait keys and over dramatization to keep our 15 second attention span busy. One critique of the original video is that it needs more Subway Surfers.
I can’t be the only one that would like a tour of Woody’s hat collection 😂 your wardrobe must be fabulous 🤌
I'm right there with you bud, we need a Woody's wardrobe video!
Yes! I would love to see the hat collection XD as a hat collector myself
Woody doesn’t look like a tourist, but he DOES look like he’s waiting to buy dinosaur embryos from Newman from Seinfeld.
He looks like the random guy who wonders in in the middle of the movie when the heroes are all freaking out and in a hurry and he’s just taking his time and like oh yeah, you need this last piece of the puzzle, this key piece of equipment? I’ll totally give it to you but come have a drink with me first. And they ask if they know him and he’s just like nah, I’m sure you don’t. And never gives a name. 😂
Man it's always a joy seeing you guys post a video. I just got into scuba and freediving, can't wait for my first courses. You guys have awakened my old passion of being in the water, thank you very much.
Hey Woody & Gus, a user named robbieschmittner9781 is uploading your videos as if they were his own. Definitely deserves a copyright infringement claim. I tried to report but it looks like it needs to be from the content owner.
Completely unrelated to anything but I love how at 21:04 they added subtitles for the dog.
It takes more than 9 goes at anything to be considered advanced, especially with something as technical as diving, in my opinion
It’d be like saying someone who has taken 9 classes at ballet is now advanced, and ready to dance for the company
I’ve been diving for 20 years this year, and have got advanced qualification, and I still feel like “oh I need to get my buoyancy better”, “oh my air consumption isn’t great”. I wouldn’t say I’m an advanced diver outside of the qualification haha
I'm certified thru padi, owd, diver level 2. My husband was certified ssi for the same credentials. When people ask me I tell them to PLEASE go the route he took and not the one I did. The two are NOT the same. Mine was like a day class at a resort and then 30 minutes in a pool and next thing you know we're in the open water lol. I'm better today but those first few dives were sketchy af. Dangerous. My husband's experience with training was night and day compared to mine. You can see the difference to this day in our separate confidence levels. I haven't dived in a couple years and honestly I feel I shouldn't until I take another course through ssi and not padi this time.
Wanted to add that I'm sure not all padi certs are the same. Mine was at a resort on our honeymoon in 2015 not in the US. 😂 not the way to do it imo. I didn't realize how unprepared and untrained was until I started watching dive talk a while back. That's what's scary. The class and the card makes you think you're ready. But I guess my nerves were definitely intuition telling me I need more training because I received highly inadequate training. Have I managed to survive and have successful dives yes. But that's with everything going right. If something went wrong I don't know if I'd have the training to survive.
My PADI owd was like a month and half, class and pool every week. Then the 4 sea dives. I did also the padi AOWD on padi (after 50 dives) and then changed to SSI and I'm master diver and doing dive guide to be dive master. Next steps extended range and instructor assistance. I'm doing this as an hobby.
it’s really the instructor not the agency
fear is important.
I'm beginning whitewater kayaking. On my first 3 river trips, I didn't flip... so I had this false confidence built up lol, thinking that I could just keep taking on harder rapids and doing crazier things, and would never bother to put on my nose plug because the fear of flipping was fading. Well... then I flipped. Without the nose plug... as soon as I went down, my nose flooded with water, I pulled my skirt but I was upside down in the dark tumultuous waters, swirling around not knowing which way was up, all the while my nasal cavities filled with water, basically I was drowning. When I finally found the surface for that sweet sweet relief... I couldn't even get it because my nose was filled with water, and trying to suck in oxygen through my mouth was just not working. Let me tell you... the fear was put into me at that moment. After that, I took a step back, and now I always have my nose plug in when going over rapids or trying to surf waves. I can't have that happen again... thanks, fear. lol.
Woody was saying they were fine on the ascent but I am yelling “can’t you hear the music!!?, they are in mortal danger!” 😁
My advanced open water checkout dives taken right after my initial cert was average depth of 78 feet.
The instructor explained the reason he does that is because that's where most dives will be for the area off jupiter inlet. So learning to dive the most common conditions for the area was a good thing. I agree with that sentiment.
Going to sixty feet with the reef 15-20 feet below you wouldn't be much fun and he knows people are going to head to the bottom where everything is. That was through NAUI, I'm not sure what their actual rules are since it's been so long since I got those certs.
I love the clarity in the water in the videos they did really great videos!
The Garibaldi are so orange and so bright in the water in Catalina so clear when you get off the boat in the harbor, you can see them from the surface when they’re 30-40 feet down it’s incredible
I’m a new diver and got hooked to your channel a few days ago. I don’t know if I’ll ever become a cave diver but I’m learning sooo much from your videos. And it’s making me appreciate all the people that do rescue as well! I love your style and the way you thoroughly explain things without making it too heavy. Keep going, great job!
Yes, in California, steel tanks are commonly used since it’s pretty cold water and you need 10 mm wetsuits plus 3 mm vests. Have dived off that boat at Catalina Island many, many times!!! Love diving in kelp and feeding kelp to the abalone. It’s really awesome when you come across Giant Black Sea Bass.
The ship wreck is the Yukon, which was sunk as part of the San Diego reef program. Prior to sinking, large holes were cut into the sides to allow swim through. That viz on the Yukon was wild; it’s usually a low viz dive (braille diving sometimes!). Training in California prepares you to be confident diving just about anywhere.
Not sure if its my TV but Gus looking fresh. Great video as always guys!
@DIVE TALK Gus. i stand with you on the underwater suicide. firstly i think it's important that you stated clearly a couple times that you thought it was more likely not a suicide. you did not say he was murdered, you merely remarked that according to your knowledge and experience, it seems unlikely that it was suicide. in general you seem down to Earth and i think you and Woody offset each other very well.
p.s i am a non-diver with an overwhelming fear of water, but watching your videos, i see you guys dive so calmly and in control that it makes me feel like i could do it.
from watching you guys i feel like ive taken a dive course. not a practical course with experience but a college course of education. you guys are great teachers and ive leaned so much from you it's insane!
peace
I love that they're going the right way about it...learning through a great instructor with a healthy fear and respect of diving, not watching a few RUclips vids, renting some gear and going for it
I remember my first open water dive, it was in the Sound, over on Long Island, any one who dives in NY knows the water is always dark and silted looking it’s like diving in a open cave, not to mention the wrecks we have here, in the old shipping lanes, so when we started caving it was like second nature. But my first open water dive was at like 4Am in the morning, still darkish, cold, I was terrified and excited the greatest feeling in the world, and I look for that feeling in every hobby I do. I love the first feeling 😂
GUS! Dude! You look so good!! its been a while since I tuned into DiveTalk but I instantly noticed how healthy you look GODDAMN! Keep it up my guy!
New subscriber here. I came for diving expertise, stayed for Woody’s silly hats.
Hey Woody & Gus!
I haven't been here on your channel since last year. I immediately noticed Gus' face is much thinner. Wow!! Good Job!!! I know how hard of a journey that is to go down, so I commend you!! Your family will have you around for much longer now. I hope this is an inspiration to all!
BTW I'm back watching now on a regular basis again. Maybe one day I'll find my mojo to learn to scuba dive. Thanks for letting us all live vicariously through you two!
Woody, Gus, or this instructor are the only people, I would trust to teach me. Especially Woody, because his calm demeanor/energy, would help with my anxiety. That's a lot of why I watch the videos. Not only are they extremely knowledgeable and funny, but I feel like the more I learn, the less panicked I would be if I took classes. The craziest part is I am an extremely strong swimmer.
I always like your reaction videos...and I'm so glad you guys don't exaggerate for drama and clicks. We love you just the way you are!
Hey, I know that boat! Great charter there, can't wait to go back. Great video guys!
Gus's hats have their own closet. I'm convinced!
I understand his salt comment, Learning in a pool, then my check-out dive in the quarry, I didn't realize how much the salt would affect my diving until my first real open-water boat dive in the ocean. It took a little time to acclimate to the salt water in my eyes and mouth when mask clearing or switching regulators.
I just came here to say that I love Woody's crazy hats....JS
Woody looks like he's a retiree living his golden years in Florida about to take his poodle for a 7am walk down the beach on his way to pick up a wheat bagel and decaf coffee 😂😂😂😂
12:58 - I lost it when Gus said "I hope it's abandoned!"
I have just recently discovered this channel and I am hooked. I have binge watched Dive Talk for a couple of weeks now and I have learned a LOT in a short amount of time. Great Job guys. Keep it up. Don't worry about pausing videos. The more you pause and talk, the more I learn. I would like to get scuba certified. Are there any dive schools in the southeast US that you would recommend?
I havent watched a video for a while due to life being life. but I was so surprised and happy to see Gus has lost weight! lookin good bud!
You forgot to add the followup video, Gus! That aside, this was another phenomenal presentation. Thank you for sharing, as usual, fellas. Much appreciated. Keep up the great work!
Gus and woody I just want you guys to know you guys are my favorite dudes on RUclips and I would love to someday learn under Woody and Gus to be able to do the things you guys do!! It’s absolutely inspiring.
@divetalk thanks for making me spend over $5k in the last 2 days. I just purchased all my dive gear and have my classes for my open water and Nitrox certifications starting tomorrow. I used some of your older video's to help choose what gear to buy. Some of my gear includes the Shearwood Teric with AI, i know its expensive but i wanted one that would easily grow with me. Also i have been diving before so i know im going to dive regularly, im in South florida. My BC is the Axiom, reg is a helix pro, fins are the quattro plus, and my mask is the paragon. I want to thank both of you for inspiring me to get my certs and do it safely. Woodys florida ovean dive video is what made me finally do it. Im watching the video, thinking thats awesome. Then i thought about how dumb i am, i live right where he was diving.
I love that you did this video feels like to worlds of mine crossing I have watched Sam and Colby for years and they really do try and do things the right way and give the correct information unless they are mislead probably was told he had 3min of air left. Love this vid!
Padi is 5 Specials
1. Navigation is mandatory
2. Deep to 30m/100feet is mandatory
3-5 free of choice
At 30m about 15min no deco
At 40m ist about 9min
They're not full specialties though but the summarized versions. Divers who complete Rescue plus 5 full specialties of their choice get Master Scuba Diver certified. Unfortunately it's not experience based so Master should be taken with a big grain of salt. I wish PADI used a different naming scheme.
I'm not a diver but I am hooked on your videos!!! Very fascinated and intrigued by your experiences!
Only diving I have done is in video games. Assassin Creed black flag and gta 5. 😅
I love Woody's taste in loud hats lolll. Great video as usual guys!!
I wish I finished the course after doing the open class introduction.
Learned the signals, clearing your regulator and reaching the spare one, taking off and clearing your mask, regulating buoyancy and not touching the bottom, not using your hands.
Think I missed out on many great dives in all those years, maybe never cave diving but deep sea or even open water would have bin cool.
Especially everytime I watch all of you guys vids.
Love your channel and love your personal dives on the vids.
Great job, love to see what I might have missed.
Sicily open water diving was beautiful tho👍😁
Been a while since I've watched dive talk. Gus you are looking great man, hard work pays off. Love the hat Woody!
I just want to say to Gus you look amazing. Idk if you talk about this or not but I'm a new fan of this channel, not a diver, but you both drew me in and I am obsessed watching now and I've looked at videos from a year even 2 years ago and just started watching recent ones now and I can tell you have lost weight and I just wanna say you look amazing, props to you! Love you guys!❤
Recently subscribed, I learned a lot from your channel, and can't get enough of your videos, the BEST Duo on RUclips!
It's been a hot minute since I've seen some DiveTalk vids. Can I just say, GUS you look fabulous!
Woody seems happy to talk about terrifying wreck dive experience.
The reality is that the video being reviewed was made for views, not to represent reality. They were never in any danger, the entire story was fabricated for entertainment.
Actually?
Yep I bet in like 10 years you wont even be able to tell what is real or fake, genuine or animated lol its gonna be rough
Rich kids making click bait yaaaay
one thing I liked about my instructors is that they had a strict no students can wear cameras during the open water checkout dive. It keeps students from getting distracted and helps them pay attention and focus on the skills. Not gonna lie, I wish I had a video of my check out dive, but I know I would have gotten distracted trying to manage my gopro at the same time as doing my skill drills.
yayy. Havent watched a lot during the last months but glad to be back. had to blink twice when I saw gus.. :D Much love to you guys als always
13:40 They probably lied about it beaing 80 feet, I'll continue watching and see if they prove it or not.
16:30 I'm sure instructor is the one that realized that.
17:00 They also lied about the 3 minute of air left in the tank. (I wouldn't take any of their comments seriously)
Please do not hate on the instructor, she seems to have done a great job, If the Tubers didn't ask her for permission to dramaticize the events then they're truly A-holes.
Bingo, they make it up to make their video click bait
@@nedflanders4158yup
I've been watching Sam & Colby for awhile and it's kind of crazy seeing them here; that they did something absurdly risky though is not surprising. These guys (with various friends and people over the years) used to explore abandoned places, risky abandoned places and encountered some seriously sketchy people. They're good kids for sure, but...yeah, risk takers for sure. I'm glad they came out of it ultimately okay, all things considered.
Drama was added
How is taking a basic scuba diving class « taking a risk »? At that rate, you could talk about taking risks anytime you walk across a road on a crosswalk. But drama apart, they seem to be a nice and fun bunch.
Yeah, as much as I like watching some of their videos, they know their audience lol. They like to inflate the drama.
@@ZSharky0815doing anything underwater is a risk. The water is dangerous
Hi from Spain , thanks for the videos guys !!
LOL Gus really laying on the accent "make a tiny mistake and you're DEAD"
Love you guys as always! Just cannot do Sam n Colby...some things are too cringe even for me. 😂 Take my like and looking forward to the next one! ❤
I would travel to wherever this woman teaches because she's amazing and I want to learn from her. She seems fantastic and kind and supportive. I'd take every single class I could from her.
Got to love the progression of hats woody is experimenting with 😂
This is obviously a troll video , these guys are way too over the top , they are making it worse then it actually was for like and views. C'mon Gus you should've seen this a mile away. Just from the opening statement "if you are watching this I am dead" lmao C'mon.
Came here to say this, these guys run their own haunted paranormal channel and everything they do is fake/clickbait
Yeah they are geared towards young teens that like these over the top behavior. I unfortunately sometimes hear about them because I'm in the debunking community regarding paranormal fakers.
@@thesecretshade Do you believe there is legit paranormal activity?
I have started binge watching your channel and I’m saving for all the gear now. I should have all of my gear by the end of this summer then off to get certified! My main reason for wanting to go is pick crab off the bay floor here in Oregon. You guys rock!
I can barely swim but find myself watching a video from this channel everyday....diving seems so interesting. Doubt it is something I'd do, but I am 100% encouraged to brush up on my swimming so I can enjoy the open waters better.
Regarding the 60' Open Water cert limit, when I did my PADI Open Water class 25 some odd years ago my recollection is that we were told that the 60' basic open water cert limit was because 60' was the max depth for most recreational divers to do a safe out of air controlled emergency swimming ascent on a single/partial breath for a 1 minute ascent. While PADI guidelines currently do not recommend doing CESA from deeper than 30' and I think that was the distance we had to perform a simulation horizontally in the pool back then. But then it's been a lot of years and I may mis-remember that matter.
PADI certified here, though that was over 10 years ago. Went down to 130ft for our deep dive where I did better on my narc test than I did in the boat, LOL. Ran out of air in one of the early shallow dives, which looking back I think is a little sus, IDK maybe I didn't do a good check which is a bit out of character, but I'm a combat vet so I just followed the procedures. I think the "navy seal" master diver instructor was more worried than I was during the accent. I kept signaling him that I'm fine and not freaking out because I was afraid he was going to panic. Anyway the whole thing with "advanced" or any certification level are the individual's skills. Some people are going to be naturals, some will put in the effort to learn, and some clowns will never truly be qualified. Love your channel.
You guys are always entertaining. I remember watching you guys when you were at 20k subscribers. Still just as entertaining. Keep up the good content.
When I did my open water check offs I had to use a weight belt even though my bcd had weight integration because a check off was taking the belt off and putting it back on. Maybe that’s why they have weight belts on.
As a PADI staff instructor, the idea that 2 OW can go out on their own without a professional is insane.
I think the minimum cert you could go out without a professional should be Rescue diver someone (or better both) should know how to save the other in the unlikely event of an emergency.
I largley agree, yet the ISO standard for open water diver (or equivalent) is "Autonomos Dive" (level 2). The problems run so much deeper than agency...
I worked as DM and dive guide there in Catalina. It's an environment like others which is a little cold, with a few predators, but mostly the issues in my experience came from over confident divers. The fannying about in my opinion looks a little over confident, but they are young, they did fine overall, it takes a lot of time to build experience, and it's a hostile environment. Nice hat BTW :)
18:01 audio drops out, and it looks like "most replayed" means everyone else is having the same issue... comes back at 18:27
I did my advanced right after my open water. The way i read the course description I thought it was combo of several other certifications courses. Still glad for the exposure it provided but knew right away I'd have to go and develop skills on my own for a while.
Gus, you look amazing! Did not see your videos for quite some time and was immediately struck by your good/healthy looks. Keep up the good work 💪
On a dive trip in Cozumel, we did 2 dives a day. The deeper dive was first. About 80 feet. Time out on boat or on the beach, then a shallow dive of about 30 feet. first.
Good to see yall.
You both are looking healthy!
It’s always a good day when Dive Talk uploads a new video, thanks guys, I love what you do and how you do it!
To the commentators
Such great attitudes
Really appreciate the positivity
I started watching this channel when it was at its beginning and I’m so glad to see the personal development of both of them. Woody is still exuding great fun energies and Gus you are thin! It really looks like you have lost some weight, guess it help with some tight restrictions you used to claim you couldn’t do? All the best lads
I’m going for my advanced pretty soon and I’m so excited.
I love your reviews, to debunk these videos making out diving to be super dangerous/near death experience, when basic rules and safety protocols are respected to make it a safe and pleasant experience :)
I doubt you guys will ever see this (amazing video as usual, by the way), but I actually have a question...
What do you think of Adventures with Purpose? They're a diving youtube channel that specialises in recovering the bodies of missing persons in vehicles from bodies of water. Would be cool to see you guys reacting to one of their videos too, maybe break down what they're doing, why they're doing it, and so on. Their videos are on the longer side, but I think it's worth it nonetheless. Some of them are really interesting.
Looking good Gus! Looking really happy and healthy! Way to go my friend!
Looking good guys! Came a long way.. Thanks for the constant education and entertainment! Stay safe
I think there needs to be a separation in the diver's head between being "Advanced" certified and being an Advanced skilled diver. I've only got about 20 dives under my belt. I consider myself a complete rookie because I just don't get to dive often enough not living near places to dive. Diving is a perishable skill and if you don't do it often enough you will forget things and possibly become unsafe even though you are "certified". They need to teach the right mindset as much as they do skills in dive classes.
Thanks for another video with your interesting, informative, and hilarious commentary!!
I love the sombrero woody!
In any forms of life , experience is the best knowledge. So you guys are absolutely correct.
California waters. I saw garibaldis ! I prefer steel tanks.
Never knew the "3 dive rule", and I've been certified since 1975 (NAUI). Leaving from San Pedro (Los Angeles) to Catalina, you usually have only enough time for 3 dives. Maybe, that's what masked that guideline.
15:55 - Casino in Avalon, CA on Catalina Island. Can get to 110ft there, close to shore.
16:00 - Male sheephead. Good eating !
Woody and Gus, after a year of seeing your videos, give or take, I was encouraged to take my PADI open water diver, last weekend i did the pool sessions, and 2 sessions on open sea also the exam, next weekend I will dive the 60 feet "18 meters" to have my certification, it has been quite a challenge but when I'm down there I remember quite well any of you as the directions of my instructor, taking the mask was quite a challenge I'll give you that, and I need a lot to perfect and a lot to dive to be someone competent while diving , so many thanks for your videos that encourage me for the first step, there are a lot more to experience and to learn. About the video the boys told some interesting stuff, and I was admired with the speed they went to Advanced, I'm not like them i'm double their age, and also have some habits that are not that good for diving, like smoking, but nevertheless, although I do agree that diving gives opportunities to many people to discover, is not just a psychological challenge, me being overweight and having, not so good lungs, reflects on the performance down there, I saw like two accidents on my course, some guy got some horrible pain on his inner eardrum and another, i think by mistake, inflated his BCD completely and had an uncontrollable ascend, lucky that we were just at 7 meters, but diving requires a lot from your physical shape, at least for me, being kneeled on the bottom for like 30 minutes and waiting for others to conclude their exercises was a PAIN, felt like a rag doll specially when i didn't had to much weight to maintain a negative buoyancy and be comfortably kneeling at the bottom, I think my greatest challenge on my next dives is to correct my buoyancy, specially the neutral one, sorry for the long text, my kind regards.
Immediately, i burst out laughing when Woody and his hat appeared on the screen 🤣
Yeah I agree about PADI, its how I learned, and got so frustrated with the Dive master course I pulled my money out and used that to start on TDI.