One of my favorite planes. It was theoretically compatible with the Aim-7C since it has the same radar as the Demon, maybe we’ll see that added someday…
It never carried them so I doubt it. It did have bombs and bomb ccip though so that should defenetly be in the game. Maybe we will get a tech tree F4D-1 late or something like that with some extra features because the Skyray is amazing and the fact that it's not tech tree even though they made over 400 of them is criminal tbh.
Main problem with F4D is its guns working only half the time. For the plane with such a low ammo count (and wing mounted guns) having to spend additional time on each enemy is basically a death sentence. Also, Skyray can pretty much carry a 1v4, unless enemies are four mig-19s of course. Engine power is really great and since skyray is a delta wing it can just drop onto enemy planes much faster after stalling them out.
If you do have some extra time and motivation I'd love to see you revisit the "F11F-1 Tiger" one day. I personally love the F11 and have flown it out more times than I'd like to admit. I also cherish the F4D and fly it out from time to time when I feel like it. That thing sure is a beast in a downtier.
Absolutely love this plane and the retention isnt horrible if you counter input the turn often enough or if you fight a slower turning plane you can purposefully turn slower. Anythin up to 9.0 gets completely energy trapped by this thing and it turns fast enough to dodge almost anything. It has problems and shortcomings true but it definetely is very good after they made it not brake its wings as easily.
Nice timing ! I had give up spading that plane last year (Wasnt that much a jet player compared to nowadays), decided to complete last month, since im aiming to get to US top tier soonish and it's the highest br plane I had. Saw you had done a video last year, gave me PTSD, but yeah feels like they tweaked some stuff around to prevent wing rips without flaps out :P Your deadpan humour is just hilarious !
@@daemonfifield1242 rate of fire is high enough that it is essentially double ammo. But tbf real shatter rn is a problem again. When that’s fixed it’ll be double ammo again essentially.
I remember winning a dogfight against a MiG-19 doing that spiral thing in the video except I full committed (despite the MiG-19 being able to maintain energy VERY well). Just stayed inside his turning circle for a minute or 2 until he made a mistake which allowed me to get the kill. That’s the thing about this plane, it got the performance of a UFO, but the neglected 1996 Pontiac Sunfire equivalent of UFOs.
The amount of killstealing we see on this video is insane but is what we get due to the bonus per kill system. Its like everyone is on a permanent event mindset rushing for kills.
@p_filippouz one of my friends was kind enough to buy me one of the premium packs on sale and I chose the TAF due to a lack of interest in the phantoms and the mirage
My main motivators for spading this have been its looks and the immense amounts of tomfoolery I commit in custom battles with it on infinite min fuel and in-air rearming
Honest review of the F4D-1 from someone who knows how to play it: Its very much worth it. Its an amazing dog fighter. If it had 12 flares it could be the best close dog fighter in the game. F4D-1 in this video isn’t utilizing its combat flaps or landing flaps in many scenarios. At its battle rating 80% of missles are easily outmaneuvered by this jet.
Hii, can i ask for some oldschool bf 109 f2/f1 gameplay? one of the last Bf 109 that are actually above the average and preety good on its BR. Love your vids, i can learn a lot, have a great day!
I used to spade this thing while it has zero tolerance on any, let me repeat, on ANY negative G maneuver, else you would get prompt wing snap. If you want to put your nose a little bit down, you roll 180 deg, and pull, and roll back. You would get used to it but it's annoying as hell and still you would get wing snaps. I knew this could not be realistic, pilots would die like flies in a machine like this. But, gaijin being gaijin ... Otherwise, it was a completely competent plane. Great thrust /weight and flying characteristics for BR, as far as I can remember.
The instructor is the problem. It doesnt snap its wings in sim, where the instructor is not present. And in sim, this plane is extremely scary to fight.
Attempt 8: Do you think you could “revisit” the F3H Demon? I know it’s pain, but you do often make content out of flying painful planes, and you haven’t covered the Demon in a long time.
One of my favorite planes. It was theoretically compatible with the Aim-7C since it has the same radar as the Demon, maybe we’ll see that added someday… 🤓🤓🤓
The F4D-1 fandom is dying, repost if you're a true Skyraycist
Its warthunder everyone is by default
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Just joking
Why is it racist though ?
The F4D-1 fandom is dying, repost if you're a true Skyraycist
Skyracist? You mean astrology?
One of my favorite planes. It was theoretically compatible with the Aim-7C since it has the same radar as the Demon, maybe we’ll see that added someday…
It never carried them so I doubt it. It did have bombs and bomb ccip though so that should defenetly be in the game.
Maybe we will get a tech tree F4D-1 late or something like that with some extra features because the Skyray is amazing and the fact that it's not tech tree even though they made over 400 of them is criminal tbh.
It’s also missing its drop tanks, which would help immensely given the poor max fuel load and the need to constantly use the afterburner.
@@jakobc.2558that would be the F-6A I believe, and it carried AIM-9D iirc
@@jakobc.2558hat would be the F5D. Did exist, coukd carry sparrows, very similar to the Skyray but faster
They could give it experimental sparrows
Main problem with F4D is its guns working only half the time. For the plane with such a low ammo count (and wing mounted guns) having to spend additional time on each enemy is basically a death sentence. Also, Skyray can pretty much carry a 1v4, unless enemies are four mig-19s of course. Engine power is really great and since skyray is a delta wing it can just drop onto enemy planes much faster after stalling them out.
If you do have some extra time and motivation I'd love to see you revisit the "F11F-1 Tiger" one day.
I personally love the F11 and have flown it out more times than I'd like to admit.
I also cherish the F4D and fly it out from time to time when I feel like it. That thing sure is a beast in a downtier.
Absolutely love this plane and the retention isnt horrible if you counter input the turn often enough or if you fight a slower turning plane you can purposefully turn slower. Anythin up to 9.0 gets completely energy trapped by this thing and it turns fast enough to dodge almost anything. It has problems and shortcomings true but it definetely is very good after they made it not brake its wings as easily.
1:55 average war thunder teammates: solo ripping off plane's wing and burning him, but he's not Jying out and teammate decides to steal it.
Glad you gave it another chance and like it. Still one of my all time favorites.
Nice timing ! I had give up spading that plane last year (Wasnt that much a jet player compared to nowadays), decided to complete last month, since im aiming to get to US top tier soonish and it's the highest br plane I had. Saw you had done a video last year, gave me PTSD, but yeah feels like they tweaked some stuff around to prevent wing rips without flaps out :P
Your deadpan humour is just hilarious !
One thing with this plane against subsonics is the climb rate, you can use the squirrel-running-up-a-tree strat
also good to take the two rocket pods as flares :)
You can double your ammo essentially by using the switch primary weapons keybind. Only uses 2 of your 4 guns this way.
you double your fire time by sacrificing half your firing mass not double your ammo
@@daemonfifield1242 rate of fire is high enough that it is essentially double ammo. But tbf real shatter rn is a problem again. When that’s fixed it’ll be double ammo again essentially.
what an incredible idea, this thing barely does any damage while firing 4 guns, let's make already slim chances of killing someone even lower
@@Nagatoooooo that’s only because of real shatter, it will work when that’s fixed… again…
@@BasherBenDawg8 Which might be next year, or never.
I remember winning a dogfight against a MiG-19 doing that spiral thing in the video except I full committed (despite the MiG-19 being able to maintain energy VERY well). Just stayed inside his turning circle for a minute or 2 until he made a mistake which allowed me to get the kill.
That’s the thing about this plane, it got the performance of a UFO, but the neglected 1996 Pontiac Sunfire equivalent of UFOs.
Always loved the way Skyray looks
Lol, bricked up in American means you are aroused. So when I heard what he said at 4:10. I started laughing out loud
F4D-eez nuts
I'm a true skyraycist
So defyen is trying to suffocate by flying the same plane that almost lost his sanity with
1:03 it has 140 rounds per gun, you can select them seperately and have 280 rounds to use
It has four guns with 65 rounds each and you can shoot them in pairs
The amount of killstealing we see on this video is insane but is what we get due to the bonus per kill system. Its like everyone is on a permanent event mindset rushing for kills.
It was just as bad before the bonuses, jet tiers are pure sweat.
damn, never thought i would be in a defyn video
Hey Defyn, will we ever get another P-51D30 video?
yessss we need one!
4:09 ayo????
Ah yes, another video by my favorite, dutch
Defyn, please bless us with an updated F104S TAF video! They moved it to 11.0 now.
Why play a TAF when the tech tree version is the exact same though?
F104s have gone out of favour anyway...
@@p_filippouzpremium bonuses. You can make the argument of why play the tech tree when the premium gives you more rewards.
@p_filippouz one of my friends was kind enough to buy me one of the premium packs on sale and I chose the TAF due to a lack of interest in the phantoms and the mirage
The first video I ever saw of yours was the original Skyray video.
My main motivators for spading this have been its looks and the immense amounts of tomfoolery I commit in custom battles with it on infinite min fuel and in-air rearming
neat
I liked the conclusion at the end. What are some other examples of such planes?
Hey defyn. Fancy revisiting the Kikka? feel like the current MM has changed its play style a ton.
i love this plane. usually 3--5 kills per game
Honest review of the F4D-1 from someone who knows how to play it: Its very much worth it.
Its an amazing dog fighter.
If it had 12 flares it could be the best close dog fighter in the game.
F4D-1 in this video isn’t utilizing its combat flaps or landing flaps in many scenarios. At its battle rating 80% of missles are easily outmaneuvered by this jet.
It's a bird, its a plane, it's a dorito that can't even be eaten
I need a new complication of all the suspicious things Defyn says
Hey defyn, will you do a graphics guide for your game?
Yay, the plane i requested
I love this plane, its so beautiful!! I would love to see the F7U Cutlass on WT too, another one I absolutely LOVE.
@DEFYN any advice for F11 F1 for 2023/24? :D
What about a G55 sottoserie video?
Hii, can i ask for some oldschool bf 109 f2/f1 gameplay? one of the last Bf 109 that are actually above the average and preety good on its BR. Love your vids, i can learn a lot, have a great day!
Did Gaijin fix the ripping problem on this plane?
Nooo I wanted a 6.0 prop video and got a jet video lmao
Did the f5c go on sale on last years chrismas???
You said you're not going to play bombers without course guns, what's about British low tier bomber Hampden? It has enough guns for you?
WASSUP
Always thought it looked a bit like a moth.
American Dorito 👍
4:10 excuse me?!? You’re what
Les go drive the price up im holding 2 tickets
Did real shatter actually come back for everything?
Not literally
But gun damage has been worse lately
I dropped it from crate today
I used to spade this thing while it has zero tolerance on any, let me repeat, on ANY negative G maneuver, else you would get prompt wing snap. If you want to put your nose a little bit down, you roll 180 deg, and pull, and roll back. You would get used to it but it's annoying as hell and still you would get wing snaps. I knew this could not be realistic, pilots would die like flies in a machine like this. But, gaijin being gaijin ...
Otherwise, it was a completely competent plane. Great thrust /weight and flying characteristics for BR, as far as I can remember.
The instructor is the problem. It doesnt snap its wings in sim, where the instructor is not present. And in sim, this plane is extremely scary to fight.
MiG19 trying not to devalue every 9.0
Every Russian plane from 8.0-10.0 trying to devalue every other plane cause either turnrate or 30G missiles
So I can put the hydraulic boosters back on?
also it will get reduced ammo to 260 from 280
See this one is recent 😭😭
I couldn't play a game without my wings ripping off. Guess I need to start playing it again. I only paid like 12 bucks for it after all.
the big minuses are that this plane quickly runs out of fuel and rockets


So it’s basically a bad f11f?
I wish I got this honestly 😢
Just like- buy it off the marketplace
Attempt 8: Do you think you could “revisit” the F3H Demon? I know it’s pain, but you do often make content out of flying painful planes, and you haven’t covered the Demon in a long time.
Patron him
When you get downtiered in this thing it is DIRTY
It would be great if we got an event plane/ battle pass plane that is NOT a ground attacker if there are any gaijin employees in this comment section
OH the sales ore going down? Time for everyone to circle-jerk how good this plane is so the market prices go up!?
It still rips tho...not as often but it does so very randomly...which is very annoying.
Can you revisit the A-4N now that it has the ability of split missile loadouts?
Revisit Javelin just because
I like the Jet now compared to what it was but getting up-tiered almost every game it blows.
I like youre Videos,the Game is the greatest Bullshit ever P2W Pur
moth :D
I didn't bother getting it because it was shit, now i wish i had it
One of my favorite planes. It was theoretically compatible with the Aim-7C since it has the same radar as the Demon, maybe we’ll see that added someday… 🤓🤓🤓
he's still my son though
2:16 you wont be disappointed
I bought this plane off the market because it was the cheapest one. Worst waste a money I ever spent.
Also because at the time I wanted a jet aircraft and like I said, it was the cheapest one in the marketplace.
This thing is basically an ugly F11F that can turn...
day 23 of asking for the ro-57 quadriarma video
Would rather take the F2H demon than this canvas winged plane.
Meat reveal when?
unban me