However, if you get the stage 1 with the warranty and once your warranty is up you can then swap to the stage 2 throttle body and pulley and reflash from Whipple (according to Ford) then you get the best out of both kits... I had the stage 1 installed on my DH already and loving it. Great informative VMP video as always, thanks guys😊
Why should we be happy about not having the ability to tune the s650? And only certain companies have access and ability to calibrate and tune the pcm?
I’m pretty sure this was just a baseline dark horse slapping on the super charger kits. Hence why at the start they were like low 400s at the wheels before kitted
Excellent review!!! If you had a new Dark Horse would you install the Stage II SC or go with Stage I to keep a warranty? I have a Dark Horse 🐎 on order. I really like the Whipple. I liked the ESS SC on the S550 Mustang but plan to go with Whipple this time. How risky is it going with the more power Stage II? Thanks!!! 👍👊💪🇺🇸😎🐎
Comparing graphs in an Apples to Apples way, the stage 2 makes roughly 720-730hp at the 7100rpm peak of the stage 1. As someone who’s brother has a whipple stage 2 s550 making about 660whp, it pulls plenty hard on the street. Traction is a real issue even on a ET street R from a stop. I’d prefer the stage 1 kit to keep that warranty and I can’t imagine it being much slower than the stage 2 kit. Octane booster might make up the difference in power seeing these engines are octane limited
What about if someone like me wants to bring my 2017 PP Manual GT in for the Gen 6, stage 1? Can I get some kind of warranty? And if not a warranty can i get a stage 1 gen 6 with 1 MAF and air box???? If I can get a Gen 5 cheaper I will but it would be nice to have the lastest Whipple gen 6, for my Gen 2 GT... ????
Put this into perspective I own a Gen1 coyote. I have a Hellion 55mm kit small turbo setup. I made on 10lbs 750+ hp stock engine….. this kit is a money grab and a junk ass product. You aren’t reengineering the wheel man smh
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Remember when this setup made 810 RWHP on 93 octane !!! 😂 the AMRY remembers.
However, if you get the stage 1 with the warranty and once your warranty is up you can then swap to the stage 2 throttle body and pulley and reflash from Whipple (according to Ford) then you get the best out of both kits... I had the stage 1 installed on my DH already and loving it. Great informative VMP video as always, thanks guys😊
I bought a Gen 6 stage 1 (stock throttle body) and Whipple said no warranty available. Are you sure?
100% sure, as long as #1 it's a stage 1, and #2 needs to be installed by a certified Ford mechanic
And Ford is the one who warranties it for 3yr/36k
Why should we be happy about not having the ability to tune the s650? And only certain companies have access and ability to calibrate and tune the pcm?
Hard to focus on what you were saying with that CO terminator behind you.
Crazy how now that roush is releasing their super charger y’all are now being transparent with WHP and what goes into it now.. 😂😂
Lol im. Confused my 21 gt roush charged made Same power on the dyno as this supercharger it didn't effect my factory warranty and I get 21 mpg
Any idea what a 23 f150 with gen 6 stage 2 whipple and longtubes would make..pump gas only.
Attainable horsepower, why Mustangs are my go tos ❤🐎
How the only the Dark mustang only 761 with the stage 2,the 2024 Gt mustang made 810 to the wheels how much
Octane booster, catless longtube headers and whatever else they not stating lol
I’m pretty sure this was just a baseline dark horse slapping on the super charger kits. Hence why at the start they were like low 400s at the wheels before kitted
@@adammauer6424 not a baseline. That is what’s offered to the public but ofcourse they have to do tricks to get high numbers and people to buy it
@@jessefrias2575 it’s the baseline of the car stock from the dealer , maybe you didn’t understood what I meant
I think they did smaller pulley & added Catless Kook Headers with Boost
Do they tune it as well
Excellent review!!! If you had a new Dark Horse would you install the Stage II SC or go with Stage I to keep a warranty?
I have a Dark Horse 🐎 on order. I really like the Whipple.
I liked the ESS SC on the S550 Mustang but plan to go with Whipple this time. How risky is it going with the more power Stage II?
Thanks!!!
👍👊💪🇺🇸😎🐎
Comparing graphs in an Apples to Apples way, the stage 2 makes roughly 720-730hp at the 7100rpm peak of the stage 1. As someone who’s brother has a whipple stage 2 s550 making about 660whp, it pulls plenty hard on the street. Traction is a real issue even on a ET street R from a stop. I’d prefer the stage 1 kit to keep that warranty and I can’t imagine it being much slower than the stage 2 kit. Octane booster might make up the difference in power seeing these engines are octane limited
What about if someone like me wants to bring my 2017 PP Manual GT in for the Gen 6, stage 1? Can I get some kind of warranty? And if not a warranty can i get a stage 1 gen 6 with 1 MAF and air box???? If I can get a Gen 5 cheaper I will but it would be nice to have the lastest Whipple gen 6, for my Gen 2 GT... ????
2024 F150 RCSB, 4x4, stage 1 with a warranty….good enough daily for me. Just having a hard time justifying a $45k F150 XL. Crazy.
Still didnt speak about what exact fuel is used in these pulls. Weird 😀
@@jwilson3663 well it had to be 87 octane and hotdog water because they made 810 rwhp on 93 in a previous video 3 months ago.. 😂🤦🏽♂️
👍🏻🤘❤️, the V8 Ford Mustang marches on.
Detonation with the stage 2…. You can see the smoke when they did the dyno pull.
False, they have the best tuners. I had mine on their Dyno and it did a rolling burnout with 714whp.
@@UnHoly_V_OhLmao VMP ain’t even tuning these kits. It’s an engineer from Ford
can you just buy the stage 2? without buying the stage 1.
Great Vids, but it would be nice to get a response once in a while...
To bad they didnr keep both throttle bodys
They really trying hard to win this topic from the peasant chat
Can not see paying the money not that much more HP on my Dark Horse 500 HP
This is trash….. anyone can buy a Gen 5 blower and make way more jam on a smaller pulley than this. Honestly stop with nonsense man……
Everything is about making money . In other words fk the customer
I’d rather go for stage 1 with more torque plus warranty.
Put this into perspective I own a Gen1 coyote. I have a Hellion 55mm kit small turbo setup. I made on 10lbs 750+ hp stock engine….. this kit is a money grab and a junk ass product. You aren’t reengineering the wheel man smh
Track Attack smoked the 24 Dark H.