Also having the support buying another quelling blade so you have 2 of them vs treant is very useful in the laning stage. Just roleplay the Brazilian government and remove all trees in lane.
@@thiagonaylor9097 The joke is that deforestation hit a 12 year high under Bolsonaro, he made ramping up deforestation and displacement of native people part of his rhetoric ("I wish we were more like US, they k****** their natives" absolutely wild quote), and during his admin they destroyed a Qatar-sized section of their rainforest. I live somewhere where logging/forestry is a core industry, but it's been that way since white people arrived and to this day we still have world-class forests. It's all about how you manage the harvest and replanting, and in broad strokes the attitude of Bolsonaro was "fk them trees"
@@thiagonaylor9097have you ever tried it playing into a dire treant 5 i literally quelled the entire treeline on the right side of the radiant offlane near the big camp. The treant turns into a slow melee hero with mediocre at best spells. Without trees move speed is balls
@@leftistnpc5417go for centaur and PL. Both of them are marathoners. In later stages of the game, PA is quite useless on a 5 man or even 3 man scenario if her BKB is off. Another good strat for me is to go for windranger, use facet 1, rush mael and mkb, and target PA only
I started playing a week ago, I always wanted to play dota but ofc league is more popular so I reluctantly played it instead but have decided to commit to learning. I played earthshaker since he's something I really enjoy and I couldn't understand what was going wrong so thanks for this counter video I look forward to checking out all the content
Hello I love the content and it helps a long time player who has always sucked like me, one thing that would really help me is a comprehensive nuance pick guide, something like how AA is great vs huskar, it would help me feel comfortable picking more than my 3 favorite cores every time I see a new hero
I like centaur vs PA. I had a match that was like 75 mins and I was 9.5k health with 2 hearts, blade mail, vanguard and shiva. Their Phantom was suiciding for 3 hits
I did lane PA 2 times today and both of those game I picked Night Stalker and my item build was Crest and Edge she couldnt do anything the whole game cause I kept hunting her
You'd need atk speed to burst through TA's refraction, not dmg. Rapier wouldn't help much. I highly doubt your rapier matters much, prob because your teammates carried you
This is the only channel I know that explains the reasoning and whys, not only the facts. Awesome work! Pls include the heros in the hashtags, this is a juicy content for the future and I don't see anything that allows searching
So what I understood is TA would be the ultimate counter to this meta and would save us from PA but Treeant is preventing that. Treeant was the real toxic hero in the meta all along.
I like you boi, you told me spam huskar mid against mele heroes but I got reket against pudge and pang mids and I also want guide video on TA can we have one please.
Last night I played pos4 Tush vs PA+Warlock safe lane (I had dusa offlane with me) we bullied PA se hard that she needed to go at woods before lvl 6, and then I warded the area and killed her 4 times solo, and STILL she made comeback... We couldnot just end we had to go mega creeps route. BTW Tusk is free MMR now 1st max ur e then lvl 10 more dmg to e, and dont build dmg items you dont really need to kill someone alone with ult. Take talents that reduce q and that talent thats gove extra dmg to w so you can clear waves easy and thats it. Boots drumms blink, then if you know how to play with ags go ags if not Force or Glimer, cuz u wanna go in and out of a fights, u dont deal that much dmg with ur spelz but they are very strong in team fights. Go Tusk it up boys!!
@@peterjordansonthe2nd731 Well it had to suit your play style. I go drumms into blink, and then it depends what your team needs and if you have good game ofc, Dota is hard cuz there is no single answer, for me Tusk is roamer+save so I bould around that. MB for you it works deso + sb and then BKB +lvl 25 tallent that crits. But what makes him strong in lane is his E its slows attack speed by 20.0 /30.0 /40.0 /50.0 (passive) and bonus dmg when active. So you can trade very well, you can get lvl 3 E in lane and its bonus 70 dmg, and herto that you trading with has -40% of his attack speed, so in lane I play around E alot + its really good to have mic on so you can talk with ur offlaner, so go from there. For ags train it in Demo train Q as well so you can escape on cliffs, or just in fog of war. Thats why I like glimer and force on tusk.
Beast master best hero.. Axes cuts tree ( nature profit,treant protect) Hawk can see monkey King sitting on tree Primal road Pierce bkb Drums of sloms best against illusion Phantom lancer only heals him
I feel like I never learn anything from these videos lol. Maybe I’m just dumb or expect the solutions to be an item or something. I have less than 30 games under my belt and can’t fully follow along even after watching many many hours of videos. Talk to me like I’m dumb because I can’t be the only one
Yday match against pa was quite fun, she just jumped on someone else, crited once and i got battlefury cleaved 100 to 0 in one hit. Hero is definitely balanced. That was without rapier too. It was minute 30. 450% crit damage with 200 atk speed steroid from W must be some kind of april fools joke tho its october. Imo she needs complete rework of her abilities and remove the factor of insane rng crits. Games feel so stresful and unpleasant to play with or against pa. Because it feels like ur on a timer to win before she hits 3 items and if you lose one teamfight against her it feels like game is now lost or it's gonna be 70 minutes rapier fiesta.
No, no meteor, I'm on a 14 game win streak as treant and I bought meteor once, just to switch things up. Usually its force staff then shard then whatever team needs. Weave in and out of rees constantly in laning and teamfights, push waves with q occasionally and win the game
Also having the support buying another quelling blade so you have 2 of them vs treant is very useful in the laning stage. Just roleplay the Brazilian government and remove all trees in lane.
Roleplay Bolsonaro's Government FTFY ;)
@@xunjin8897 sadlys that's far from true, i wish it were that simple :P
@@thiagonaylor9097 The joke is that deforestation hit a 12 year high under Bolsonaro, he made ramping up deforestation and displacement of native people part of his rhetoric ("I wish we were more like US, they k****** their natives" absolutely wild quote), and during his admin they destroyed a Qatar-sized section of their rainforest.
I live somewhere where logging/forestry is a core industry, but it's been that way since white people arrived and to this day we still have world-class forests. It's all about how you manage the harvest and replanting, and in broad strokes the attitude of Bolsonaro was "fk them trees"
@@thiagonaylor9097have you ever tried it playing into a dire treant 5 i literally quelled the entire treeline on the right side of the radiant offlane near the big camp. The treant turns into a slow melee hero with mediocre at best spells. Without trees move speed is balls
PA is never in my games because i spite ban her every time. sometimes i feel especially hateful to techies but usually, PA gets the wrath.
I ban PA every game without fail. Over 50% of my games she still doesn't get banned. It's some bullshit
i've had like 75% winrate banning pa and picking spectre. if pa is banned i ban viper so i dont get vipered.
Lol whats wrong with PA
Pa get demolished by troll warlock lol
@@leftistnpc5417go for centaur and PL. Both of them are marathoners. In later stages of the game, PA is quite useless on a 5 man or even 3 man scenario if her BKB is off.
Another good strat for me is to go for windranger, use facet 1, rush mael and mkb, and target PA only
My treant is on 11 winstreak right now, i play it 4/5. But since Bsj release this video, i maybe need to switch another support heroes. Thank you bsj.
As a PA one trick the heroes that give me the most trouble are tidehunter and axe
No LC?
I started playing a week ago, I always wanted to play dota but ofc league is more popular so I reluctantly played it instead but have decided to commit to learning. I played earthshaker since he's something I really enjoy and I couldn't understand what was going wrong so thanks for this counter video I look forward to checking out all the content
I don't know, fisting cores and their supports with my 90 something base damage as Treant is pretty fun to me
what's the name of that page?
Hello I love the content and it helps a long time player who has always sucked like me, one thing that would really help me is a comprehensive nuance pick guide, something like how AA is great vs huskar, it would help me feel comfortable picking more than my 3 favorite cores every time I see a new hero
thanks for your hard work, BSJ.
Always get a laugh or two from your videos. The dota meta info also helps.
Cheers from brazil!! o7
gl bro
what website is that?
Cool video. I wonder if visage is good vs pa in late game. Visage has ghost shroud but he is no TA.
I'll always pick nyx mid if there is a first pick PA, and works everytime (divine bracket)
Nyx, same with slardar, have farming issues
I like centaur vs PA. I had a match that was like 75 mins and I was 9.5k health with 2 hearts, blade mail, vanguard and shiva. Their Phantom was suiciding for 3 hits
Thats because she didnt go shard
No satanic?
Seems like Dark Seer should be good with PA in a team. Especially vs her counters + shield gives an opportunity for early fights
That's exactly what I was thinking. Does dark seers ion shell ability break ta refraction?
@@BurntToastMafiayes
I did lane PA 2 times today and both of those game I picked Night Stalker and my item build was Crest and Edge she couldnt do anything the whole game cause I kept hunting her
I beat a ta last night with pa, she had all the fixins mkb linkens all of it. I just went rapier and exploded her. Balanced
You'd need atk speed to burst through TA's refraction, not dmg. Rapier wouldn't help much. I highly doubt your rapier matters much, prob because your teammates carried you
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Well, a dagger crit without refraction up could explode TA with the help of divine, other than that, yeah I completely agree with you.
Yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh right
I hope I can see another update and changes on the meta tier list for 7.34d.
We need more of these
This is the only channel I know that explains the reasoning and whys, not only the facts. Awesome work!
Pls include the heros in the hashtags, this is a juicy content for the future and I don't see anything that allows searching
What’s that website he’s on ?
i think it's dotabuff
Just in case you still didn't know, it's Dota Buff
How about Lone Druid? He's a stomp on mid.
So what I understood is TA would be the ultimate counter to this meta and would save us from PA but Treeant is preventing that.
Treeant was the real toxic hero in the meta all along.
I like you boi, you told me spam huskar mid against mele heroes but I got reket against pudge and pang mids and I also want guide video on TA can we have one please.
good video some items to buy against these heroes might help for us noobs as well when we dont get to counter pick
Against PA, always build a halberd and it helps team survive.
Last night I played pos4 Tush vs PA+Warlock safe lane (I had dusa offlane with me) we bullied PA se hard that she needed to go at woods before lvl 6, and then I warded the area and killed her 4 times solo, and STILL she made comeback... We couldnot just end we had to go mega creeps route. BTW Tusk is free MMR now 1st max ur e then lvl 10 more dmg to e, and dont build dmg items you dont really need to kill someone alone with ult. Take talents that reduce q and that talent thats gove extra dmg to w so you can clear waves easy and thats it. Boots drumms blink, then if you know how to play with ags go ags if not Force or Glimer, cuz u wanna go in and out of a fights, u dont deal that much dmg with ur spelz but they are very strong in team fights. Go Tusk it up boys!!
Pos 4 tush? With a glimer?
@@peterjordansonthe2nd731 Ye, pos4 glimer.
@@peropero2307 Ags? No Aghs?
@@peropero2307 Drumms or Spelz?
@@peterjordansonthe2nd731 Well it had to suit your play style. I go drumms into blink, and then it depends what your team needs and if you have good game ofc, Dota is hard cuz there is no single answer, for me Tusk is roamer+save so I bould around that. MB for you it works deso + sb and then BKB +lvl 25 tallent that crits. But what makes him strong in lane is his E its slows attack speed by 20.0 /30.0 /40.0 /50.0 (passive) and bonus dmg when active. So you can trade very well, you can get lvl 3 E in lane and its bonus 70 dmg, and herto that you trading with has -40% of his attack speed, so in lane I play around E alot + its really good to have mic on so you can talk with ur offlaner, so go from there. For ags train it in Demo train Q as well so you can escape on cliffs, or just in fog of war. Thats why I like glimer and force on tusk.
Beast master best hero..
Axes cuts tree ( nature profit,treant protect)
Hawk can see monkey King sitting on tree
Primal road Pierce bkb
Drums of sloms best against illusion
Phantom lancer only heals him
wild hair banana brian we love it
You are the best BSJ! Thanks for everything you do for this comunity!
Awesome needed video ❤😮
Had multiple game against PA but yesterday i used seer. I died but so are all of her teammates
U want sort by"PA winrate" not "disadvantage"
Just had the most unfun lane against sniper. Thank you sir.
U counter Ur brain everyday
video has outdated info already
Odd that no one is playing cent, very odd.
"Undying" of lanes 😂
Real Undying : 😎
Thank you!
I feel like I never learn anything from these videos lol. Maybe I’m just dumb or expect the solutions to be an item or something. I have less than 30 games under my belt and can’t fully follow along even after watching many many hours of videos. Talk to me like I’m dumb because I can’t be the only one
Thank you BSJ :')
Yday match against pa was quite fun, she just jumped on someone else, crited once and i got battlefury cleaved 100 to 0 in one hit. Hero is definitely balanced. That was without rapier too. It was minute 30. 450% crit damage with 200 atk speed steroid from W must be some kind of april fools joke tho its october. Imo she needs complete rework of her abilities and remove the factor of insane rng crits. Games feel so stresful and unpleasant to play with or against pa. Because it feels like ur on a timer to win before she hits 3 items and if you lose one teamfight against her it feels like game is now lost or it's gonna be 70 minutes rapier fiesta.
Brooo Treant is super fun, don't hate 😆
BSJ is the beessstttttttttttttttt
Whooo, bee est jay
abbadon 4,5 is busted rn
How to counter PA? Bring lion to lane. Can't cast all her bullshit of she don't have mana. Kek
This shit won't work on SEA😂
How dare you sir! Treant is super exciting, my favorite 5 right now
T h o u g h t s c r o s s m y m i n d , a s t h e s u n c r o s s e s t h e s k y
Yes i love metoring towers and press e and r and sitting in trees
No, no meteor, I'm on a 14 game win streak as treant and I bought meteor once, just to switch things up. Usually its force staff then shard then whatever team needs. Weave in and out of rees constantly in laning and teamfights, push waves with q occasionally and win the game
Yeah, meteor isnt as good an item as before. I only buy it when my team lacks pushing power
pew pew
Treant ITS a Ent 🤣 of course Its boring
Tell me better how to counter f CK it is insane
holly shit your looking so handsome xD i mean you generely look nice nice but in this video top! xD
Good😊
PA is a curse on Dota at the moment...
Naga drstroys pa lol like 30 min end and gg
BSJ = making ,,How to counter meta heros'' 1 day after meta hero nerf patch xd 0 iq xd
Pa still strong so is Treant ?
You do realize that this was recorded before the patch was released, right?
@@martinkodet6429 Dont rl care when, it was uploaded today, after new patch
@@UphillHook mb on 3k bracket sure
@@ktyczynski lol Treant highest winrate support at high lvl pubs maby look at the stats before commenting
i am a PA main. i have a 78% WR with my most recent 50 games. its fucking wild