ATS Washington (Pre-Release) - Into Tacoma
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- Опубликовано: 21 окт 2024
- In my first journey to Washington we take a rather interesing trailer from Portland into the Port of Tacoma. Note that this is a pre-release build of Washington DLC.
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I like how you saw the big white dome but just 20 seconds before that you missed the seven floating houses and trees 28:13
It continues for a while after the exit. It was bizarre
Watch out Squirrel! Three yellow trucks is following really close up behind you. :D
When the three yellow trucks have free they drive BMW
@@kasperHoolwerfLeth Is that a mod or is that part of washington?
They left out all the traffic. That Port of Tacoma intersection was a cake walk. Should of taken at least 20 mins to get through the light on pac hwy hahaha
Also the road construction
Squirrel, here in the states, we truck drivers call that combination a "deck of trucks" and is a pretty common thing to see here ;)
Idk but were i live (chicago) ice only seen trucks in ats once or twice and chicago is the trading capital in america most trucks go trough the city every day
ive heard of them referred to as piggy-backing
Yep, see this all the time here in Missouri
It’s pretty common in America
We call them piggy backing up here im Canada. Rarely see them in a small town like the one I live in
The 'crazy juction' at 24:55 is called an SPUI or single point urban interchange. Pretty neat stuff.
The junction he's talking about at 27:55 is called a DDI or diverging diamond interchange.
It's insane the lenths at which the americanskis are ready to go to avoid doing a roundabout 😄
We do, But roundabouts still confuse us.
@A real bisexual petrol-head should probably clarify that...:P
I'm American...
@A real bisexual petrol-head Yep. But I know what a Roundabout is. My town has a few of them.
13:45 Rural interstates typically have speed limits of 70 (mi/hr), trucks 60. Urban areas are typically 60 but the Seattle area has variable speed limits (for congestion) which is reflected in the game.
Nice to see the Tacoma Dome there. Also, the dome you saw in Olympia is the State Capitol building.
The beer run to Texarkana, Arkansas better be epic.
😂😂I'll be the blocker in truckersmp
I'm from west coast Canada and spent a decent amount of time in Washington. One thing that is really cool is that Seattle area is full of big trees and wet, then you get over the mountains and Omak is dry and barren. There is actually a Desert that runs from the South Okanagan (British Columbia) right down to mexico.
I find your reaction to your cargo in this video quite amusing. I've seen this type of setup for moving trucks somewhat regularly in real life, so seeing it in game didn't deliver quite the same reaction for myself. It's great to see things new and fresh to you after as much time as you've spent playing these games after all these years.
Perhaps it's uncommon in the UK/Europe, but it's standard operating procedure for delivery of new trucks to dealers in the US. The only detail that I'd point out, is that the lead yellow KW would actually be doing the pulling, not the red KW. Or at least the 1st yellow KW would be on the red KW 5th wheel same as the others, but I've never seen a 4-truck haul, only 3. I too was amused by Squirrel's reaction.
Connecting to the front cross arm is how the truck manufacturers design the truck for towing. This includes towing for delivery like the setup in the video. Done properly, it's not going to hurt anything, and if it's damage by a poor driver, it's not because of a problem with the process, but with the operator. Additionally, moving rigs on a trailer creates a number of other problems. First, they're taller. Even on a low-boy, the load is at least a couple of feet taller than a truck under tow. When high cabs are already pushing limits, adding that extra height could limit your available routes. Secondly, your load is longer. Even bumper-to-bumper, you're adding several feet per truck, not to mention the length of the trailer onto the pulling tractor. As a result, you may only be able to move one or two trucks, as opposed to three. Thirdly, you have a truck & trailer combo that is empty after delivery. When you use a new truck to pull 2 other new trucks, all three get delivered and you don't have to drive an empty truck back to the manufacturer. That money saved can really add up when delivery distances are in the thousands of miles. Far cheaper to fly a single driver back than to have him, his truck, and lodging expenses to pay.
@@billwells7464 I've actually seen 4 being towed at once by a lead truck like what is shown in the game. The towing truck is actually from another company atleast in my area, which is being paid by the other company to haul the other trucks to the buyer.
@A real bisexual petrol-head They are delivered that way because it's the most efficient way for trucking companies to increase their fleet and no damage occurs or it wouldn't be done this way.
Also, a little correction the 5 fwy is an Interstate and is often referred to as “I-5” rather than “route 5”.
Most people who live in the us ( me ) call the innerstate EX I287, I84 ( NY I84 ) I87 Ect
Yeah, I live in Washington state and I call it I-5. Interstate 405 though, I typically just call 405. And there's also I-90 which goes east from Seattle.
Being from SoCal, it’s weird seeing people not putting “the” in front of the interstates. For example, we call I-5 “the 5”, 405 “the 405”, 101 “the 101” etc., etc.
It'll be a nightmare in about 5 years when they get to Ney Jersey with all the toll roads.
5 yrs???? more like 20!!! LOL
I-95 in NJ is designed to burn through your savings, I've unfortunately had to drive through that place a couple times
cant wait to see how they recreate that mess
That's rather adorable. Calling Puget Sound a lake. Though that ferry route is the one Bill Nye used to drive with his Amphicar to get to work when he worked at a Seattle public television station and lived in Bremerton. That shaves like 170 km off the trip each way.
Great video Squirrel! Here's some pronunciation tips:
Omak: OH-mack, not O'mack
Spokane: Spo-can, not Spo-cane
Yakima: YAH-kema, not yah-KEEma
Also, that cathedral-esque building you saw in Olympia is the state capitol building. The domed structure in Tacoma is the Tacoma Dome, which is used for various events.
Bay Area Transit News I feel you!😂😂
Did it better than me. Props to you!
You forgot the puget sound, which is where the ferry was
Washington State law: Move over or slow down for stopped emergency vehicles. When the state patrol had a car pulled over need to move left a lane or slow down.
You didn't cross into Washington
Till the middle of the big metal bridge. Washington state is my
Home state. If you have questions
Just ask. Washington is the 13th
Most populse state. Seattle population is around 7 million.
Squirrel that's the Tacoma Dome. It hosts lots of events within the area. @28:38
@squirrel, this is how new tractors reach dealerships. Very common in North America, although the max is three tractors. A transporter would drive the lead unit and either drop at up to three dealerships or all at one dealer. The transporter is also responsible for undecking the units and he/she has to reinstall the axle stubs on the last drive axle that is on the ground. The transporter has to wait at the receiving dealer until the new tractors are washed and inspected as he/she is responsible for any damage - obviously they inspect the trucks at the factories or the pick up lot in Laredo TX, for those that got build in Mexico. The owner operator customer can ask if his/her new truck can be decked at the time of order and the dealership can try to accomodate, as the lead unit would accumulate 2000 miles or more if its going into Canada. SCS just added that orange dolly to give the sim driver the option to haul with his/her tractor.
They do use the orange arm for transporting them like that in real life, usually for condos, as they would be way over height if they were piggybacked. Get to see new KW and Internationals piggybacked regularly, in a variety of configurations.
Hey Squirrel when you have a traffic light (a red arrow) that is separate from the solid colored ones then it is a protected turn, which basically means you have to wait until that light turns green, and you'd have to ignore the solid colored one
You're talking about the Diverging Diamond Intersection. There's actually a lot in the US. The first one was built in Springfield, MO in 2010. On the interchange of I-44 and MO-13. And Springfield currently has 5 or 6 diverging diamonds. I know because I live about an hour away from Springfield and I go there a lot. There is also one in Joplin, Missouri, which I live about half an hour away from and go to a lot, and some in Kansas City, St. Louis, and many other cities across the country.
Theres a few in Michigan too
I remember learning to drive and the first time my mom made me drive her to Kansas City I ran into the one there (Leawood, KS to be more specific) and I was really confused. 😂
I definitely see how they help prevent crashes but it feels like it takes a lot longer to get through the intersection. Especially if you aren’t getting on the interstate and you are just going to the other side.
When I first went through the one in Joplin, it baffled me how it was designed, but I went through it with ease.
No wonder why I see so many here in Springfield. I take that exact interchange regularly too.
It's good they added more enroute events, because in the Northwest we have 2 seasons, Winter and Road Construction! Oh and I forgot 🔥 season which is basically road construction with smoke.
I live in Wisconsin and we have 2 seasons. Winter and Road construction
14:15: Yes, the northwest is *generally* rainier, but in the summer, it's the opposite. California gets more rain and the northwest is hot and dry, with winds coming off the deserts that dominate Oregon and Washington. I 5 is the easternmost freeway in the northwest that isn't in the desert.
7:40: Getting genuine amusement out of Squirrel plain shocked at how Class 8 trucks are typically shipped in North America.
As someone who lives in Tacoma, Washington is one of the most epic states in the US! The Puget Sound, Mount Rainier, Mount St. Helens, the Cascades. If you like to be outdoors this is the place to live!
I run out of Elko and it tend to have a closure of the highway meaning i have add 300 miles to my journey :) not all fun when you have 2000 miles to go to start with.
Washington looks good so far.
My main garage in ATS is in Elko. I've also visited Elko before in real life. It's a cool little city. The Ruby Mountains and Lamoille Canyon are beautiful!
Pretty neat to see this. I work at a trucking company right there in the port of Tacoma, pretty neat to see the old loves in the game. Right now its being re built and is completely torn out.
Road to nowhere is Mount St. Helens.
That was our state capitol, Squirrel. @23:00
Hey our state capital is not in Washington our state capital is in Washington DC near New York
Christopher Palmer I think he’s referring to Olympia being the capital of Washington, cause it is
Man am I the only one that feel like with each new state we get, the previous states need some kind of touch up because each new state is better and better? Especially California and Nevada.
The traffic pattern you reference at 27:30 is a "diverging diamond" interchange. Several states (further east than where ATS has gotten) have been implementing them with great results. There's an alternate version called a "constant flow" intersection where only those turning left cross over before the interchange instead of all traffic flow. Solves the traffic problem but increases the points of collision, but is also much easier and cheaper to implement.
28:12 Completely overlooking that the map is broken and floating stuff there
most probably that wont be in the final release
its already fixed
Haha
What you do you not understand from "pre-release"
@@adrianborinsky2989 On release there is sometimes bugs in the map aswell that testers haven't spotted yet. Maybe you should think first before writing that.
28:00 That would be a diverging diamond interchange. Also, nice to see pre release content for WA! It'll be nice to drive around the state I actually live in. Got a grin when you talked about how there was so many interchanges down in the Kennewick area. Can agree, it's a fracking nightmare to get around there. _So many interchanges, and traffic always sucks._ Reason being, it may say Kennewick on the map, but it's actually three cities that have grown together: Pasco, Richland and Kennewick. We just call it the Tri-Cities.
In my part of the U.S. we called it piggy backing hauling trucks like that. I worked for a trucking company that was sold to another company... we had some truck that were high mileage and the new company wanted to sell them off so a another company that sells used truck came and picked them up literally the used huge hydraulic air jack to lift the front of each truck and the pilot truck drove underneath each of them it coupled to a gooseneck that clamp to the front of the suspension and swiveled at the bottom by the fifth wheel. So they could turn with the lead truck. It was cool to see how they did it.
7:00 that is not a trailer or an arm that is a tow bar and the reason that the mud flaps have been as you said tied up is to keep them from dragging the ground and getting ruined
you know there's a very easy way to see if the right lane is going to continue straight or become the turn off lane? and it also applies in germany in real life and I'd assume all EU countries (in ETS2 too)... look at the white paint marking the lane, if it differs from the middle to left lane it means it's a direct turning lane. if it's identical to the middle/left lane, it means it continues straight and you need to move over into it. it's basically telling you if the road will be 2 or 3 lanes. i learned that a few months ago getting my truck drivers licence!
Happens in real life to, that trucks completly block tank stations.. 😁
The type of freeway intersection Squirrel was talking about is called a diverging diamond and is more efficient and safe because it deals with the large left turn volumes by flipping travel direction on the "overpass" portion.
They are a mid-size intersection and can't easily replace ones like where squirrel was commenting on them due to the extra space required but where full cloverleaf or flyover intersection cannot fit they are a good solution. Four(Five?) are going to be added in Washington: One in Lacey close to Olympia, one just before the end of the port of Tacoma, one east of Seattle near Snoqualmie and one(two?) in Spokane. That being said there is already one in Phoenix Oregon just south of Medford, 3in Nevada (1 in Reno and 2 in Las Vegas), 4 planned for California, 4 planned, 1 in construction in Arizona and 1 in Santa Fe, New Mexico. So with the 4 already in states ATS has done it's too bad we don't have any in game.
You were talking about Diverging Diamond interchanges briefly, the most likely place any of those could make it into the game is in a Utah expansion. There's several in and around Salt Lake City, as that area was one of the first to adopt them. Others I hit often are in Cheyenne Wyoming and Springfield Missouri
Squirrel, that junction at the 25 min mark is a "Single Point Urban Interchange". They are common in places like Edmonton and Calgary. One is also being built in Winnipeg soon at Main St and Chief Peguis Trail.
At 24:50 Americans call that a Single Point Urban Interchange (SPUI). Later, you mentioned an Interchange where right crosses left to reduce collision points. That is called a Diverging Diamond Interchange (DDI).
I live in Vancouver in Canada and always forget that there is one in Washington state
marksman1416 ikr
I live in Washington State and I never know which Vancouver people are talking about... I live in Bellingham, so Vancouver BC is pretty close to me, but Vancouver, WA is also a fairly major city. I always ask which Vancouver they mean haha
I just discovered this video today, and something I noticed is that when you make the comment about the more efficient intersections being developed in the states you're on the Marvin Road exit in lacey, which now is exactly the intersection you were talking about. They're called diverging diamond interchanges and it turned the Marvin road exit from one of the worst intersections to use in Lacey to a trivial exit that barely adds any time to my commute anymore.
"I don't know how this is going to reverse"
The answer is... hilariously 😏
The speed limit on most american highways in or around a large city is between 55 - 65 mph. Setups like that where they attach a fifth wheel coupler to the front axle of a truck and hook it to another truck is a common way of shipping trucks in america. You are correct that the area in the middle of the road marked by yellow lines in for people to stop and wait for a break in oncoming traffic to turn without blocking a lane of travel. If you want something crazy, there are a few cities where the train tracks actually run right up the middle of a street. Cars can drive parallel right next to a train.
28:22 that cop shit his pants 100% lol
Great vid Squirrel excited to see more of Washington!
if this was My Summer Car physics he probably would have clipped the cop and be hit with a massive fine.
in Canada we have those "trailers" but here we call them piggy backs. its an efficient way to transport several trucks without a low bed or different drivers.
Love your vids keep on trucking
If you're curious about how that trailer works, they attach kingpins to the bottom of each truck (although they normally remove the front wheels in northern NY), then hook them up to the next truck in line. I see that kind of thing all the time, although most that I see don't use the arm, and instead hook the first piggyback directly to the pull truck's kingpin. I have seen the arm a few times with taller cab styles though (probably because tall cabs would get overheight if they were directly onto the kingpin of the lead truck). Oh, and the lights in Washington look a lot like what we have in NY as well, at least in upstate (as in near the Canadian border, not "just north of NYC is "upstate").
The yellow lines in the middle of the road ARE turning lanes. Don't feel bad about not knowing that...most people here in the US don't know how to use those either LOL
That's the Tacoma dome where they hold concerts, Monster trucks, rv shows all sorts of things.
Well Paul just experienced his first SPUI (Single Point Urban Interchange). The interchange you speak of is a DDI (Divergent Diamond Interchange). The last type of new US interchange is an SDI (Split Diamond Interchange).
I like seeing longview off the bat there is a paper mill i used to haul to all the time
Squirrel you didn't move over at 28:23!
The intersection you’re talking about is The Diverging Diamond Interchange.
There are 4 currently in the USA. There is one is Washington state. California, Florida And New Jersey And soon to be a 5th in Las Vegas
No wrong. There's actually a lot more now in the US. The first one was built in Springfield, MO in 2010. On the interchange of I-44 and MO-13. And Springfield currently has 5 or 6 diverging diamonds. I know because I live about an hour away from Springfield and I go there a lot. There is also one in Joplin, Missouri, which I live about half an hour away from and go to a lot, and some in Kansas City, St. Louis, and many other cities across the country, not just those that you listed.
Love it, but I dont blame you for the wrong pronunciation of Yakima. It is pronounced YAK-I(same I as igloo)-MA. The Toutle river you said looks like a stream was actually larger, but because of Mt. St. Helens eruption ash and mud caused it to decrease in size. That "church tower" is the state capital building.
This is normally how new trucks are transported to the dealership, except that the driven truck is also one of the new ones as well and the bar you are hooked to is not used.
The way the trucks are connected is exactly how they transport new trucks out of Portland. The company I know of that is contacted to haul the trucks requires drivers to have many years of experience before you're considered for employment. And, you don't back up...just like you don't reverse while pulling multiple trailers. Just thought you'd want to know... I'm amazed that the load depicted in your video was included. Kudos to SCS's research team! Big fan of yours, been watching since 2013. The big dome building was the State Capital building. Oh, and Yakima is pronounced "Yak-i-mah", and Spokane is pronounced "Spo - can". I lived there for 18 years...now I'm in Colville, which is really surprising to see since it's a pretty small town.
Spokane = Spoke-Anne
Bellingham = Belling-Ham
Omak = You got it, spot on!
Bonus points if you can pronounce Puyallup (not on the DLC map, it's a town just East of Tacoma)
Where the ferry is is called the puget sound. It is not a lake, it's a sea. And also spokane is pronounced spocan not spokane.
Looks awesome & lovely.
So many trees & bridges lol
The Heart's rest stops are a nice reference to real life Love's.
13:27: When you see the short, fat lines (well, only short lines in ATS), that's where the roadway is going to split at the next junction. Lane changes are allowed. If it's a solid line, lane changes are with extreme caution only. When it's double steady lines or a steady line with a dotted line on one side, the meaning in the US is the same as it is in Russia (no lane changes, or lane changes allowed in one direction only). Areas with chevrons or slashes are telling you to move to either side, it's not legal to drive, stop, park or turn left from those (they're flush medians).
Hello , I’m a native of Washington ; at 23:20 that’s the state capital building of Washington State
28:34 , That’s the “Tacoma Dome” it’s used to host large events like a rock concert or monster truck show
That is a common way to transport multiple trucks from a factory to a dealership or dealership to a trucking company terminal. It’s called piggy back. The drive lines of the towed trucks are disconnected and the the brakes are hooked into the lead trucks air just like a trailer would be. Towing 3 trucks like that is essentially towing 3 trailers
good clear narrative and reporting.
13:20 In America, if a lane is marked with smaller dotted lines (referred to as "Quarter Lines" or "Dotted Extensions") it means that lane is leaving the active roadway.
19:30 Those borders are those traffic lights are known as "Retroflective Backplates". They're used all around the country, and function similar to how signs do, as they reflect the light of your headlights for higher visibility.
Dear Squirrel, your Kenworht load is called a piggy back ;)
That's how they deliver new trucks
i have never seen that arm used before to connect them, usually the trailing cabs are hooked right to the driving truck, also there is a mod on the workshop to make longer trains, and lastly the middle lane is used for left turns for both sides of the road (aka Suicide Lanes)
Wow, honestly this state is going to bring back so many memories!
This is very common in the US hauling trucks like this. I've seen it in truckvlogger videos a few times, its a cool way of doing it! :D Cant wait to doing logging jobs when Washington is out! :D And yes, its new for 1.35. :)
Wow, they have done well with Washington
My home state, FINALLY! Well actually I'm viewing this 2 years later and bought the Washington-ORegon pack as soon as I got the game so Washington was "always" in there. Still I hope you enjoy my home state. I'm in Spokane if you want to visit me with your truck. But please pronounce it correctly (spo-KAN, not spo-KANE). I live and spend my time in the Eastern half so I'll look forward to your drives through Colville and Spokane, both cities where I've spent a lot of time and are very accurate.
The new junctions being built in the US that you mention at 28:00 are called "Diverging diamonds".
Two videos that is will be looking forward too, will be trips to Wenatchee and the trip on highway 101. In real life the drive on Hwy 2 is a beautiful drive hope the game gives it justice. I got a change to drive over the Astoria bridge a year ago and was amazed at the height of the bridge, plus the coast is a wonderful drive.
I've driven over that bridge. It is very high but it's a very pretty view.
Exit 111, the one you had to go around the accident, is actually in the process of changing to that weird crossover you were talking about
Finally I've been waiting for a good youtuber to look at Washington and my wish came true
thx for the perview
Washingtonian here!
And Now, Gotta be that guy, Make it easier.
Spokane: (S P O- Can)
Omak: (Ohm-A K)
Grand Coulee: (Cool-lee)
Wenatchee: (Wen-nat-Chee)
Yakima: (Yak Ki ma)
Don't be suprised, People butcher the City names all the time!
Alex on the SCS stream butchered Spokane
Romero Turner thanks for that, I was too lazy to even type that😂😂😂
@@carbonaspect9330 Trust me, I get used to it. You can tell a Out of Stater easily in Washington.
Romero Turner honestly same, considering I lived there for 3 years😂😂😂
thanks for saving me the pain of having to write this myself
Supposed to move over for emergency vehicles or when emergency lights are on
The most interesting route on this map for me will be I-90 east out of Seattle. I am very interested on how well they modeled the snoqualmie pass climb. In reality it is a 1/2 hour climb up the coastal mountain range in a tandem near gross weight.
Of course you get it before everyone else!
28:15. They are mostly in the Midwest like Nebraska and Kansas.
Yeah I'm from Kansas City and we have a lot of diverging diamonds in KC. They're starting to build more of them too.
I am kind of surprised that they didn’t mount a car to the rear tractor. Seen that a couple of times and it’s kinda cool 😎
I believe the new type of junction you're talking about is called a "diamond" interchange.
28:30 that is the Tacoma dome it's and arena for tons of events.
The last right turn before you enter the dock, yeah you miss the exit!
Glad that they didn't put Forks in so we can be spared of all the Twilight jokes.
Oh thank the Lord!
Traveling to Seattle listening to Knopfler's Seattle is a must. :)
That, Or ofc Nirvana.
it's so awesome to see my home state in a game like this lol
I think your the only one who doesn't cheat and go to third person ! well done mate you play realistically. I'm a real trucker in the UK so not sure i'd wanna play my job when i'm off just checking out some vids as one was on my recommended, i love bonneted trucks and almost bought a Scania T-cab once but i just find Scania's so uncomfortable i'd take a DAF over one every day of the week and twice on sunday but good vids ;)
Cant wait for this to be released so I can add it to my lets play series.
That dome would be the Tacoma dome. Legendary concert and Wrestling venue
28:13 the houses and trees are floting !!!!!!!!!!!!! :-)
25:06 we have them in Australia, they are at all of the intersections
Puget Sound isn't exactly a big lake! =) Thanks for showcasing this!
Great video Squirrel can't wait for this DLC to come out. :) :) :)
wow cant wait for them to add my home town if they do
I know the I-5 corridor in Washington really well. It is super realistic!
Squirrel in the states its i5 as interstate 5 that blue behind the 5 is interstate symbol and aberdeen in the states is also in maryland great video keep up the amazing videos
"What's that?" - It's the Washington state Legislative Building.
State Capital building
In addition to the Washington DLC a special forestry DLC was released today as well.
Squirrel the change over interchange actually exists in Washington in the city of Lynwood right below Everett on the map. I’m not sure it’s modeled in ats though.
Great video Paul! Excited for Washington!
I love how they put a "Hearts" right before the Port of Tacoma. It's actually accurate. However, it's called Loves in real life. Same logo though. Same color scheme. Same location.
They are installing a diverging diamond interchange at the exact interchange you talk about them at.