We never had a problem with spending money on good investments. We give the most money per capita to the EU by far, and that is also a great investment. Spending more on our own military industry is not a bad deal at all. Creates high level engineering jobs and knowledge transfer, expanding industrial base, all the money comes back anyway.
@@TheSuperappelflap Eh.. 1. Trump zei als eerst dat Europese landen zich aan de NATO norm moeten houden(of anders) . 2. De EEG was zo'n slecht idee nog niet? Maar het gedrocht wat de EU heet heeft geen mandaat. Wat mij betreft mogen ze de Benelux wel weer wat belangrijker maken? Daar delen wij veel meer waarden mee.
Should have added that the Dutch Marines are the first marines (in a modern sense) in the world. Not the US Marines as many wish to believe. Established on 10 December 1665 and based on the classical era of Trireme ships (Mediterranean from the 7th to the 4th centuries BC) where after ramming the soldiers boarding the enemy ships. Yet the Dutch were the first to change the concept into what we are more known with today and calling it "Mariniers" (which in English changed to Marines). The first ideas came as early as 1627 on the initiative of Lieutenant Admiral Philips van Dorp, 1000 soldiers were distributed over ships to enter enemy ships. However after the Peace of Münster treaty in 1648 the troops disappeared again from the fleet. In 1663 there was a request to add them again, but this was declined. In 1665 these were added after all on initiative from Grand Pensionary Johan de Witt and Lieutenant Admiral Michiel de Ruyter. The first commander was Willem Joseph van Ghent after whom the Van Ghentkazerne in Rotterdam is named. December 10, 1665 is considered the founding date of the Corps. The corps was put into action during the Raid on Medway (in Dutch "Toch naar Chatham") as one of their first major incidents (and a huge blow to the English crown). Now unlike the US counter parts, the Dutch Marines train globally and do a even tougher training then the US Marines. You could there for easily say the Dutch Marines are the US marines but on steriods. KCT is however taking that even to a much higher level and MARSOF being a Dutch SEAL team which roughly could do the same as the American teams, yet have the luxury of being more hidden as even the regular Dutch civilian hardly knows about their existence. They are however much broader trained and can be put into various situations and there for are far more capable in a broad sense of the word. This due to the team being rather small in numbers and having to make up for that. Which doesn't make them a easy target at all. Regarding the Fennek vehicles, these are so cramped that tall people can't enter. You need to be rather short to even get inside them. While being a well capable vehicle, they make you remind of a typical clown car if it comes to the soldiers that need to get in this cramped vehicle. There are 4 Walrus Class submarines, not 3. 2 are indeed going to be upgraded, but the rumors are that all 4 will get the same upgrades instead being replaced completely. Giving a total of 8 submarines including the new 4 that will be added soon. These old Diesel subs might look dated, but even the US Navy couldn't find a single Walrus class submarine during a Navy war game operation. Even with the Americans cheating in getting a additional fleet in without telling the Dutch Navy. The Dutch Walrus class managed to sneak in, kill the primary target and take out the secondaries, then sneak out without being spotted once. If that isn't a middle finger to the mighty US Navy... For the Rotterdam-class ships, 1 is to be replaced and the crew is actually temporarily placed on a Karel Doorman-class frigate (which is now pretty much laying in port without a task). Once the replacement ship is ready, the crew will be placed on that new ship. This new ship will be more similar to a helicopter carrier mixed with the original task of the Rotterdam-class and being much bigger. For some additional info: ruclips.net/video/CjX5_KprcEM/видео.html&ab_channel=NavalNews (0:54 Look at the bottom listing on this chart, LPD & Patrol Vessel replacement. Patrol vessel being the Holland-class and LPD being the Rotterdam-class) (Yes, they did claim the ships would be smaller. But the image shown there shows a ship that's much bigger) All 4 Alkmaar class ships have their destinations already, 2 of which going to Ukraine after being refitted with more modern equipment. Ukraine info: www.naval-technology.com/projects/alkmaar-class-mine-countermeasures-vessels-netherlands/ De Zeven Provincien -class has 4 currently, with the 2 new ones that will be 6. I have however some intel that suggests it will be 4-6 new ships instead of 2 new ones. Which would bring the hypothetical total to 10. With the current Russia-Ukraine war situation it seems the Dutch Navy is waking up and trying to rebuild their navy from the ground up. However also this much older ship class seems to be included as it stands now. The 4 existing ships would get a upgrade to modern standards while the new ships are planned to have them build in from the start. The Netherlands punches well above their weight class for centuries. The current problem is that the numbers are so low thanks to the government being delusional and dumb. I seriously do hope in coming years it's back to where it should be if not better. There is talk of conscription, although these voices are not spoken out loud as it might panic the people. The main goal first is to get enough material, uniforms, vehicles, etc. before adding new personnel. This would however mean that both men as women are conscripted. Technically speaking conscription is still by law mandatory although the military is rather avoiding the issue and not sending out those letters of conscription (which I think is a dumb idea, it would be very good to see this fully return. Regardless if you are part of the blue haired freakshow or not. Some discipline can do wonders)
@@JW-1980 Yup, just as the GOALKEEPER system that the US would love to get their hands on, but were refused. This leading to the US making their own variant.
@@JW-1980 Thats not the only thing Thales makes that is world class, they produce a lot of different specialized equipment for other NATO countries. Because of the smaller size of European countries and limited budgets compared to the US military, every country specializes in some areas and then we put all those components together to make very high quality military equipment together. For example Sweden which recently joined NATO, has been cooperating with NATO countries for joint development for a long time and they have their own very high quality aircraft and naval fleet. These are very complex international supply chains so its also a vulnerability, if one of those components cannot be manufactured or delivered it will be difficult to manage that situation, but its also a strength because of the specialization it allows where a big country like the USA has to invest in matching that quality on all fronts by themselves. Of course we also have joint projects with the US like the JSF. The performance of these European systems in Ukraine clearly shows that this system is effective at countering a much larger military force with sheer quality and efficiency. With military budgets now expanded due to the security concers, i think you will se a lot more examples of world class Dutch, German, Swedish, French, etc, military engineering in the future. The import tariffs Trump tried during his first term already showed that even the US is heavily reliant on things like Dutch and German steel for civilian industry. And of course the lithography machines from ASML are one of the hottest commodities on the planet that wars may be started over. We have a long and proud tradition of engineering here on the mainland of Europe just like the UK and US and Japan do.
TBF the British also have a good claim of having the first marines. It's a question of months and depends on what can be considered the First "official" indicator of having a formal marine corps.
This is true! In 1667 "Raid of Medway": History of Dutch Marines (played in 1667). More Navies had "Marines" @ that time. But what Dutch Marines did was considered tobe the first "Modern Marines action" (Raid of Medway). They sailed almost 30 miles on a British River (under Admiral Michael de Ruiter) @ the end they found in a ("protected" harbor) the British (UK) Navy fleet, and destroyed 75% of that Navy fleet. British marines are still feeling honored to train with Dutch Marines.
@@Rasaevire The Spanish, Portuguese and British are all technically older, but they did not yet operate in the way modern Marine Corps do. Which is why what he said was correct, the Dutch was the first Modern Marine Corp, but not the first in general. That said, I do also consider the Dutch one the oldest, and the others as technicalities.
@@Rasaevire It depends a little on how you define "marine corps". The Spanish and Italians were the first to use specially trained sailors as infantry, with the Spanish Marine Corps being the oldest such corps still in active service. The Netherlands and the British came after that, but I'm not sure which of them created the first "true marine corps", i.e. a dedicated corps of specially trained infantry who aren't also sailors. But since they are working closely together I suppose they can share that distinction :)
I love seeing the conception of the Korps Mariniers in the movie "Michiel De Ruyter", however I do think it's a bit of a matter of semantics on what the first marine corps actually was. Do hoplites on board ships of ancient Greece not count?
Like all Western militaries, the Netherlands is still hopelessly underequipped for massive drone and anti-drone warfare, especially when it comes to personnel. But Ukraine was a wake-up call, and they are scaling up. Whether it will be sufficient remains to be seen.
@@whoknows8225 From everywhere of course, short range and long range.There are hardly limitations. What geographics problem prevents the Netherlands from using them, during wartime and on missions?
Very nice. A lot of things I didn't know. Minor detail : 1:30 : "The Netherlands is one [-] of the 27 member states of the European Union or the EU." Together with Belgium and Luxembourg The Netherlands in 1944 formed the Benelux. Which laid the foundation for the later European Union.
@@daanstrik4293 No lol. It used to be, that was called the EEG. But now, it's a much bigger, more fleshed out political ideology of unification. It's to avoid bloodshed, on the continent that saw the most wars throughout history, from ever happening again. That's why the EU exists. ...And the economical benefits sweeten the deal aswell.
The Benelux countries were also 3 of the 6 founding members of the precursor to the EU, the other 3 being France, West Germany and Italy. Which is historically very interesting if you draw parallells between the borders of those countries and then the HRE or the Carolingian empire. You might say its a project that has been thousands of years in the making.
Dutch marines are good at specialized tasks, we don't have large numbers, that's why we are specialists. specialized in humanitarian rescue missions, such as UN tasks, security, arctic training, anti-terrorism and hijackings. Furthermore, We have some of the best frogmen and mountain leaders in the world, they have high-quality equipment and combat knowledge and a mentality that is equal to the toughest army's in the world. We never give up!!
History of Dutch Marines (played in 1667). More Navies had "Marines" @ that time. But what Dutch Marines did was considered tobe the first "Modern Marines action" (Raid of Medway). They sailed almost 30 miles on a British River (under Admiral Michael de Ruiter) @ the end they found in a ("protected" harbor) the British (UK) Navy fleet, and destroyed 75% of that Navy fleet. British marines are still feeling honored to train with Dutch Marines.
Thats nonsense. You base it on what the mariniers once were. Fact of the matter is that every country has specialized troops. And a number of those now have combat experience, which is very important. Furthermore, we only have a couple of 1000. Thats what Ukrain loses in a day.
@@StofStuiver As usual 1000% clueless about history. When you search YT, 1 of the many videos that show up. And this UK professor is not so smart as a random YT'er. ruclips.net/video/RoB_wAcgZQM/видео.html And Dutch Marines are still in the global Top 5. And the Brits joked in WW2 when a Dutch Navy ship "Michael de Ruijter" tried to port in London Harbor.
The Dutch army also has a strong presence in the Dutch Caribbean, to patrol the drug routes between South America and the US, but also because it borders Venezuela. According to Venezuela, the Dutch Caribbean islands are part of their territory. In 2010, there was almost a conflict between the Netherlands and Venezuela, because the American DEA arrested a Venezuelan consul in Aruba. President Hugo Chavez then sent his naval fleet to the Dutch Caribbean. Eventually, The Hague released the consul because he has immunity. Washington was furious with the Netherlands. In addition, there is compulsory military service on the Dutch Caribbean islands. That is why there are militia units on Aruba and Curaçao. The Dutch navy has two naval bases here and there are two marines, a commando corps stationed. In addition, there is a rotating army company. On all six Caribbean islands there is also a Royal Netherlands Coast Guard and Royal Marechaussee (Gendarme). The Dutch Customs is present on three islands.
Was het niet zo tijdens de MH17 gebeuren dat er een bepaald zuid amerikaans land 1 van onze bewindseiland bedreigde met een aantal mariene bootjes. En wie moesten we ookal om hulp vragen, omdat we niks daar in de buurt hadden of uberhaupt iets konden sturen
The Dutch actually owns an F16 patent and built them at the Fokker factory for other European countries which is the reason why there are version differences compared to the United States models. Also HIMARS installations and more Patriot systems. Next to this there are also a bunch of private defense contractors developing new unmanned systems and thinking about NGAD unmanned drone fighter jets for the F35 networked platform
As far as I'm aware, the French built replacement submarines for the Walrus class are not slatted to carry tomahawks because the French builder does not have the security clearance to install them. Perhaps they will be added later by a different company. But as I heard, it will be tricky.
The French aren't building them alone. It was a bid by the NAVAL group and a network of Dutch companies that help installing and developing the systems.
Right now, they're saying Tomahawks for the subs. But we'll see, what the Dutch government said is any of the competitors (from France/Sweden/Germany) would've faced the same missile integration issue. France, though, has the Tomahawk-equivalent MdCN as a possible alternative.
How can you judge that, if you dont know FACTS? What is said on military is BS, but you or the people that voted you up, have no idea of that, so you think whatever is said and sounds good, is true.
I thought this was a 200K plus channel. Apparently it is not, though the content definitely is at that level. You gained yourself another sub, keep making videos
Excellent video. I had to do a double take when looking at your subscriber count, expecting "207K", rather than "207" subscribers. The amount of research, clarity of presentation and overall production are of a standard that far exceeds this number. I have obviously liked and subscribed, and hopefully many more will do the same in the future. Keep up the good work!
A little mistake in the video at 20:00, all of the Dutch CH47 it currently has started life as the F model. The first 6 F models were delivered in the early 2010’s to replace 2 lost D models and grow the fleet to a total of 17 chinooks. (11x D, 6x F). These original F models did have special adaptations for the RNLAF, and were different compared to the standard US version. After the introduction of the F model, plans were made to upgrade the existing D models to F models, but after research the NL MOD found out it was actually better to replace the existing D, as of the original order of 13 units in 1993, only 6 were brand new, the other 7 are CH47C bought from Canada and upgraded to the D model. In 2015 the RNLAF ordered 14 new CH47F, to raplace the D models and grow the fleet to 20 units. To save some costs, the RNLAF bought the same versions as the US army, specifically the CH-47F MYII CAAS, as this was cheaper compared to more custimized versions like the original order of 6 F models, though the 14 newly ordered did have some slight upgrades compared to the US version, but nothing major. In order to get full fleet commonality, the RNLAF decided to upgrade the “old” F models tot the same standard as the “new” F models. Not a single Dutch CH-47D has been upgraded to ghe CH-47F model!
I have been at Thales, a very big dutch company for a school project. They produce all sorts of radar systems for a bunch of countries. Almost all of the radar systems on dutch navy ships are from thales. 22:36 I have seen this radar system and it is really large, you can walk through it! And it has a range of over 2000 km! 37:16 This is a test room in thales I have been here. Very cool video, I really liked it!
at 6:21 you could've probably mentioned that rotterdam is the largest port in europe and therefore we are probably going to be an important transit hub in such a scenario
Never seen a video that describes the modern Dutch armed forces in such a detailed and correct way. I went into the video wondering how much would be correct and how deep the info would be, but I'm positively surprised by everything! There probably are some minor stuff that's missing but well, that's minor. Are you from the Netherlands yourself?
The organization for the logistics is called NDTA, it’s a combination of Belgium, Dutch and US army and Dutch and Belgian civilians who are specialized in logistics. The reason is that Antwerp and Rotterdam are the two biggest harbors in Europe and consist of the best logistics due to their infrastructure is very complicated but super efficient. We are the gate to Germany and Europe!
Excellent video! Nevertheless I have a couple remarks. The Dutch armed forces will acquire some 500 Caracal vehicles and Germany approx. 1,000. I miss the Vector ATV used by KCT, MARSOF and the Ranger Battalion (part of 11 Air Assault Brigade). Other than that, again, excellent video. Keep up the good work!
I am from the Netherlands and a proud that we as a small nation work closely with our neighbors and not the US for me personally it’s become clear that the us wants a radical religious Christian dictatorship under Trump, I would have some hope for a Harris administration but….. the world is better of with out a Christian,putting loving pathetic blode us president who’s only interest is not to get convinced. I applaud Europe for following the current events and in doing so supporting Ukraine more importantly strengthening the EU defenses! Let me be clear the current events shows us that the accords made for the un after WW2 have failed, especially concerning the security council witch includes us Russia and china, if one suggest one thin the rest will veto this and as such it needs to be restructured and all tree need to be kicked out of it and replaced by a temporary council with a government who has been elected by the people in a free election ( and I don’t care if it’s left, right or trough the middle, the voters decide) The current events shows the world that it is time for a new un character with out the us, Russia or china leading the Assembly of the free world
the main component of the danish armed forces is the national guard (hjemmeværnet), which wastly outnumbers the standing army. A cheap and efficient way of protecting the homeland. other countries, please take notice of this!
18:30 the Netherlands stores the largest stockpile of B61 nuclear gravity bombs in Europe…as with respect to its nuclear role in the US/Nato nuclear triad
Volkel airbase is cleared for a maximum of 15 B61 nuclear weapons. This is the maximum number of warheads the storage vaults at the airbase can hold. So 15 max and the actual number of weapons that is stored is classified but is likely less. This is the same number of weapons that are stored in Belgium and Germany. Italy and Turkey are cleared for 20 warheads each so these two countries potentially have more warheads in their bases vaults then the Netherlands. This is the latest information from the Federation of American Scientists from december 2023. Everything is highly classified so things might have changed but your statement that ''the Netherlands stores the largest stockpile of B61 nuclear gravity bombs in Europe'' is nonsence.
Ex-PM Lubbers once claimed there were 22 B61's in Volkel AB. Asked for a reaction, a RNLAF spokesman said these ""are never spoken of". www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-22840880
@ yes. ‘Army’ is only the land force (Koninklijke Landmacht). DSI is made up of Police and military members (Marines, Army and Marechaussee - don’t think that have Navy (fleet) and Air Force)
Do not forget ABC caraibian countries and municipalities like aruba, curaçao, st martin, saba, bonaire and st eustatius its a bit bigger and strategic interesting country...
Note that the new Submarines were signed, but are not allowed tomahawk missles because Washington doesnt trust the french not to steal their design. They may be added afterwards.
History of Dutch Marines (played in 1667). More Navies had "Marines" @ that time. But what Dutch Marines did was considered tobe the first "Modern Marines action" (Raid of Medway). They sailed almost 30 miles on a British River (under Admiral Michael de Ruiter) @ the end they found in a ("protected" harbor) the British (UK) Navy fleet, and destroyed 75% of that Navy fleet. British marines are still feeling honored to train with Dutch Marines.
Well done. I think you are a bit flattering, but still, good content. The challenge now is to divide up the little we have between ourselves, our partners Germany, UK and of course, especially Ukraine.
Really ? This is your first and only video ? Come on, make mooooore. I liked the taste of this one, so I'm hungry for more. Do Belgium next. Or expand on the Dutch - UK collaberation. And @all: watch Big Mac's Battle Blog, or Brandon Mitchel. They're awesome.
Unbelievable that the Netherlands had 1000 tanks and 300 fighter jets late 1980s. Defence has to be considered as having an insurance. Ukraine has shown us that we could almost spare no weapons or ordnance.
About the natres. They are allound to serve a broad. For security and supporting tasks. But you get ask to volunteer to go abroad. They can not force you.
to be able to scale up significantly, i would think bringing back conscription is the most logical step. that could easily produce a100.000 reserve personnel in a couple of years. Spain has another good trick, i think, to get more soldiers: south americans who join the spanish army get a spanish passport after a couple of years of service. they have of course the great advantage of the common language.....difficult for the dutch to find people wiith the same language...
I gotta wonder, with the odd intonation and emphasis on words (as if the reader has no idea what words come next or when a sentence ends): are these videos voiced by text-to-speech?
Great video, pretty accurate and complete except that you didn’t mention the establisment of the 12th Ranger Batallion as part of the 11th Air Mobile Brigade.
Capabel Defense, great joke your majesty 7:17the boxer was not designed as a combat vehicle 11:50 the Fennek is severely outdated and not suitable as a combat vehicle, but is suitable as a reconnaissance vehicle or launch platform for anti-tank weapons. 
i guess "compact but capable" is one way to say the koninklijke landmacht went from over nearly 900 tanks and 2000 IFVs to barely 124 IFVs in 10 years.
I don't really see what we need tanks for, I think increased specialisation of national armies while integrating them on a European level is the way forward. We use German tanks, they use our sensors and marine expertise.
Seriously you guys are taking the piss out of me! Do you really want the truth about the Dutch armed forces? I worked for the Dutch army for 20 years, twice in Afghanistan and once in Bosnia. And I'll tell you it won't be because of the units that are still there. But the Dutch armed forces have been cut back so much by the government that they don't even have ammunition to practice, let alone carry out a mission. It's a terrible mess there. It's full of overpaid officers and nothing else. And who is responsible for that? The current head of NATO, Mark Rutte.
Spot on! What's left of it is just a joke, only a shadow of what it was during the Cold War and where it was completely independent. All the expertise that's lost ... Thanks Rutte! What a mess he made, not just of the Dutch armed forces but of everything.
@@framek5736 Onzin dat Rutte daar de schuld van is. De bezuinigingen en afbouw van defenste is in de 80ger jaren al ingezet. De vredesbeweging, denk aan het IKV, Mient Jan Faber, Pax Christi, ban de bom, linkse partijen hebben in de 70 en 80er jaren hard ingezet op de demilitarisatie van Nederland.
Lots of barracks in all the cities, even the small ones. Most of those are now closed or converted to office space, schools, housing for refugees, etc.
Half of our forces quit when they heard they were about to go on a mission, the other half quit afterwards when they came home by freight plane because the government thought an passenger plane was to expensive and it was corona time so straight to quarantine
as far as i know there are several problems with the new subs firing tomahawks. There is no permission of the USA to implement the systems needed to fire the tomahawk from the new french subs causing major upset on top of an already controversial path to buy french instead of building dutch systems or buy german.
The Dutch are no longer capable of building subs (that company went backrupt in the 90's). You mean a Swedish sub (the name Damen was only there for the illusion of the sub being Dutch).
The Dutch Royal Navy I hold in high regard the rest has become a joke. At the end of the 80s we had almost 1000 leopard tanks. In 2024.. a few borrowed tanks from Germany. And judging from the number of open jobs nobody is interested in fighting careers anymore.
on the other hand, we saved Billions and billions in costs of unused materials. which makes us quite rich. so now we can basically buy whatever we want.
@@CyberBeep_kenshi Maybe we should focus on "simple" matters like compensation for the child benefits affair in The Netherlands. Because if we are not able to solve small matters how can we be trusted with big matters?
The 'old army' was made for 'old style wars'. Big numbers needed to oppose huge invading forces. Currently, the Dutch Army is very capable of doing specialised tasks, together with allies. This army suits the current, and very changed situation.
@@UnusSedLeo-w5l Steadfast Defender 2024 was the biggest NATO exercise since the Cold War. The whole doctrine switch from GWOT back to Cold War started happening since 2022. We're buying tanks, bringing SPGs out of storage, acquiring rocket artillery and increasing readiness levels. These are not signs of a focus on specialized tasks but a clear doctrine shift back to large-scale high intensity conflicts. Ukraine just showed these wars are not relics of history. I'm not saying I believe Russia will invade a NATO state, but not being ready for war has hurt us in the past and can always do so again. I'm assuming with specialized tasks you're talking about our minesweeper focus and SOF from submarines or just our general focus on training for assymetric threats, and some of these can/will still fit well into the new bigger picture.
The airforce is OK, the navy is OK-ish, the land army is still ridiculously small. Professional soldiers are so expensive to keep on payroll that few EU country can afford more than a few thousand. Seeing that a Soviet-type army can field hundreds of thousands, there is no other way than training up a sizeable reservist force, even if it seems like a huge waste of time for young men (and possibly women). Also, let's not forget about the ammo - while the number of F-35s or helicopters seem nice, the whole army is defunct if it runs out of ammo in 2 weeks of fighting. Or food. Or fuel. Logistics is an invisible, but vital part of the army, something the government can't go boasting about, so probably getting underfunded.
Possibly? Im not going if they arent. Its equality time. They voted for it. If they dont want to fight then they can cook and clean stuff and repair broken equipment, but I say theyre going, same as the men. Im not going to risk my life for them without any effort from their part, with how theyve been treating men in this country over the past decades.
This is outdated wisdom. Drones, robots will more and more decide wars. One fighter jet that costs a billion will lose out to people with upgraded toys. The Netherlands should envision future warfare, not arm up for all that works less and less in Ukraine. Being a high tech country they can go for light and smart, mobile, fast and flexible.
we had to travel for a week from our barracks in ede to the site of havelte to guard the, officially non existent, atomic bombs there. we left with some vehicles and arrived with some other vehicles as some vehicles had broken down on the 115 kilometers to havelte and had to be replaced. we calculated that if all vehicles of the dutch army were to set of for moscow, the russians would not need to worry as none would arrive due to them breaking down on the way... that was some 50 years ago. i am convinced it still is the same.
So? That’s true for every country fighting a modern large scale coventional war. It’s not like the Netherlands is going up alone in such scenario, it’s the whole NATO that will deploy - and the Dutch Army will we incorporated into German divisions. You know NATO is the most powerfull military alliance ever created?
A nice thing to know about the war in Afghanistan: The king, back then crownprince Willem-Alexander actually flew combat missions there in Apache attack helicopters.
Our problem is that our military are thinking, they don’t jump when said so, they will say why? That is a problem for most other forces, but we are just like that. And if you need logistics, then we are the best, in every way we can organize the logistics of any battlefield.
When training soldiers is extremely expensive and time consuming its a good thing they dont risk their lives without questioning orders. You can see the problem with cheap cannon fodder in the current Ukraine war, those poor conscripts dont stand a chance and they get shot in the back if they ask questions.
We have to little people and who is surprised. At a certain point soldiers were told they should not wear their uniforms when leaving the base because they could be victim of muslim attacks. INSIDE THEIR OWN COUNTRY
@@RK-cj4oc Dude: Terrorist: someone who used violence, often deliberate against civilian targets, to terrify a population in order to achieve political goals. Examples: AmericanKKK, Irish provisional IRA, German RAF, Al Quida Muslim: someone who is a member of the Islamic faith. Example: Ibn Batutta; a world famous geographer. Saladin; who fought for, led and united the Muslim factions against the Third Crusade; whom even his Christian enemies praised as a good and faithful man. Former mayor of Rotterdam Ahmed Aboutaleb, one of the best mayor’s the Netherlands had seen in the past 3 decades. And yes, also asshats like the Ayatollah of Iran. Don’t blame the violence threat on all Muslims, that is idiotic and also evil. Blame it on the actual bad guys, the terrorists Yes, in that case it was mostly a warning against Islamic terrorists. But we have also had to fight facist terrorists, Christian fundamentalist terrorists, catholic Spanish terrorists in the 1600’s, communists and anarchist terrorists etc over the years. The problem is the terrorist part, not the ideology part
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Russia sure has accomplished much. They made the Dutch spend money.
Spot on. As a Dutch, I'm not even offended.
@@Ikbeneengeit Eh..
We were ruled by a Russophobe imbecile for more than a decade. That's probably the reason why he's the NAVO top guy at the moment.
We never had a problem with spending money on good investments. We give the most money per capita to the EU by far, and that is also a great investment. Spending more on our own military industry is not a bad deal at all. Creates high level engineering jobs and knowledge transfer, expanding industrial base, all the money comes back anyway.
@@TheSuperappelflap Eh.. 1. Trump zei als eerst dat Europese landen zich aan de NATO norm moeten houden(of anders) . 2. De EEG was zo'n slecht idee nog niet? Maar het gedrocht wat de EU heet heeft geen mandaat. Wat mij betreft mogen ze de Benelux wel weer wat belangrijker maken? Daar delen wij veel meer waarden mee.
Should have added that the Dutch Marines are the first marines (in a modern sense) in the world. Not the US Marines as many wish to believe. Established on 10 December 1665 and based on the classical era of Trireme ships (Mediterranean from the 7th to the 4th centuries BC) where after ramming the soldiers boarding the enemy ships. Yet the Dutch were the first to change the concept into what we are more known with today and calling it "Mariniers" (which in English changed to Marines). The first ideas came as early as 1627 on the initiative of Lieutenant Admiral Philips van Dorp, 1000 soldiers were distributed over ships to enter enemy ships. However after the Peace of Münster treaty in 1648 the troops disappeared again from the fleet.
In 1663 there was a request to add them again, but this was declined. In 1665 these were added after all on initiative from Grand Pensionary Johan de Witt and Lieutenant Admiral Michiel de Ruyter. The first commander was Willem Joseph van Ghent after whom the Van Ghentkazerne in Rotterdam is named. December 10, 1665 is considered the founding date of the Corps. The corps was put into action during the Raid on Medway (in Dutch "Toch naar Chatham") as one of their first major incidents (and a huge blow to the English crown).
Now unlike the US counter parts, the Dutch Marines train globally and do a even tougher training then the US Marines. You could there for easily say the Dutch Marines are the US marines but on steriods. KCT is however taking that even to a much higher level and MARSOF being a Dutch SEAL team which roughly could do the same as the American teams, yet have the luxury of being more hidden as even the regular Dutch civilian hardly knows about their existence. They are however much broader trained and can be put into various situations and there for are far more capable in a broad sense of the word. This due to the team being rather small in numbers and having to make up for that. Which doesn't make them a easy target at all.
Regarding the Fennek vehicles, these are so cramped that tall people can't enter. You need to be rather short to even get inside them. While being a well capable vehicle, they make you remind of a typical clown car if it comes to the soldiers that need to get in this cramped vehicle.
There are 4 Walrus Class submarines, not 3. 2 are indeed going to be upgraded, but the rumors are that all 4 will get the same upgrades instead being replaced completely. Giving a total of 8 submarines including the new 4 that will be added soon. These old Diesel subs might look dated, but even the US Navy couldn't find a single Walrus class submarine during a Navy war game operation. Even with the Americans cheating in getting a additional fleet in without telling the Dutch Navy. The Dutch Walrus class managed to sneak in, kill the primary target and take out the secondaries, then sneak out without being spotted once. If that isn't a middle finger to the mighty US Navy...
For the Rotterdam-class ships, 1 is to be replaced and the crew is actually temporarily placed on a Karel Doorman-class frigate (which is now pretty much laying in port without a task). Once the replacement ship is ready, the crew will be placed on that new ship. This new ship will be more similar to a helicopter carrier mixed with the original task of the Rotterdam-class and being much bigger. For some additional info: ruclips.net/video/CjX5_KprcEM/видео.html&ab_channel=NavalNews
(0:54 Look at the bottom listing on this chart, LPD & Patrol Vessel replacement. Patrol vessel being the Holland-class and LPD being the Rotterdam-class)
(Yes, they did claim the ships would be smaller. But the image shown there shows a ship that's much bigger)
All 4 Alkmaar class ships have their destinations already, 2 of which going to Ukraine after being refitted with more modern equipment.
Ukraine info: www.naval-technology.com/projects/alkmaar-class-mine-countermeasures-vessels-netherlands/
De Zeven Provincien -class has 4 currently, with the 2 new ones that will be 6. I have however some intel that suggests it will be 4-6 new ships instead of 2 new ones. Which would bring the hypothetical total to 10. With the current Russia-Ukraine war situation it seems the Dutch Navy is waking up and trying to rebuild their navy from the ground up. However also this much older ship class seems to be included as it stands now. The 4 existing ships would get a upgrade to modern standards while the new ships are planned to have them build in from the start.
The Netherlands punches well above their weight class for centuries. The current problem is that the numbers are so low thanks to the government being delusional and dumb. I seriously do hope in coming years it's back to where it should be if not better. There is talk of conscription, although these voices are not spoken out loud as it might panic the people. The main goal first is to get enough material, uniforms, vehicles, etc. before adding new personnel. This would however mean that both men as women are conscripted. Technically speaking conscription is still by law mandatory although the military is rather avoiding the issue and not sending out those letters of conscription (which I think is a dumb idea, it would be very good to see this fully return. Regardless if you are part of the blue haired freakshow or not. Some discipline can do wonders)
I've also read on several occasions that a company in the Netherlands (Thales?) has developed the most accurate radar?
@@JW-1980 Yup, just as the GOALKEEPER system that the US would love to get their hands on, but were refused. This leading to the US making their own variant.
@@JW-1980 Thats not the only thing Thales makes that is world class, they produce a lot of different specialized equipment for other NATO countries.
Because of the smaller size of European countries and limited budgets compared to the US military, every country specializes in some areas and then we put all those components together to make very high quality military equipment together. For example Sweden which recently joined NATO, has been cooperating with NATO countries for joint development for a long time and they have their own very high quality aircraft and naval fleet.
These are very complex international supply chains so its also a vulnerability, if one of those components cannot be manufactured or delivered it will be difficult to manage that situation, but its also a strength because of the specialization it allows where a big country like the USA has to invest in matching that quality on all fronts by themselves. Of course we also have joint projects with the US like the JSF.
The performance of these European systems in Ukraine clearly shows that this system is effective at countering a much larger military force with sheer quality and efficiency.
With military budgets now expanded due to the security concers, i think you will se a lot more examples of world class Dutch, German, Swedish, French, etc, military engineering in the future. The import tariffs Trump tried during his first term already showed that even the US is heavily reliant on things like Dutch and German steel for civilian industry. And of course the lithography machines from ASML are one of the hottest commodities on the planet that wars may be started over. We have a long and proud tradition of engineering here on the mainland of Europe just like the UK and US and Japan do.
TBF the British also have a good claim of having the first marines. It's a question of months and depends on what can be considered the First "official" indicator of having a formal marine corps.
This is true! In 1667 "Raid of Medway":
History of Dutch Marines (played in 1667). More Navies had "Marines" @ that time. But what Dutch Marines did was considered tobe the first "Modern Marines action" (Raid of Medway). They sailed almost 30 miles on a British River (under Admiral Michael de Ruiter) @ the end they found in a ("protected" harbor) the British (UK) Navy fleet, and destroyed 75% of that Navy fleet. British marines are still feeling honored to train with Dutch Marines.
Dutch marine korps (late 1700s) is the oldest organized in modern way and 3rd or 4th marine corps ever.
dude its the first marine corpse ever.(1665) when America wasn't even an idea.
@@Rasaevire The Spanish, Portuguese and British are all technically older, but they did not yet operate in the way modern Marine Corps do. Which is why what he said was correct, the Dutch was the first Modern Marine Corp, but not the first in general.
That said, I do also consider the Dutch one the oldest, and the others as technicalities.
@@Rasaevire It depends a little on how you define "marine corps". The Spanish and Italians were the first to use specially trained sailors as infantry, with the Spanish Marine Corps being the oldest such corps still in active service. The Netherlands and the British came after that, but I'm not sure which of them created the first "true marine corps", i.e. a dedicated corps of specially trained infantry who aren't also sailors. But since they are working closely together I suppose they can share that distinction :)
@kaasmeester5903 winnaars schrijven geschiedenis dus die chorizomeesters kunnen kaas eten
I love seeing the conception of the Korps Mariniers in the movie "Michiel De Ruyter", however I do think it's a bit of a matter of semantics on what the first marine corps actually was. Do hoplites on board ships of ancient Greece not count?
Like all Western militaries, the Netherlands is still hopelessly underequipped for massive drone and anti-drone warfare, especially when it comes to personnel. But Ukraine was a wake-up call, and they are scaling up. Whether it will be sufficient remains to be seen.
yeah... how will you launch drones tho? from where? did you look at the geographics of the Netherlands?
@@whoknows8225 From everywhere of course, short range and long range.There are hardly limitations. What geographics problem prevents the Netherlands from using them, during wartime and on missions?
@@Drrolfski thought you meant against... will be hard to launch them from the sea without being noticed
@@whoknows8225 The Dutch are in control of the most accurate radars and also have the Caribbean islands.
Yea, thats not going to happen.
Even the US cant fill their quota.
Very nice. A lot of things I didn't know.
Minor detail : 1:30 : "The Netherlands is one [-] of the 27 member states of the European Union or the EU."
Together with Belgium and Luxembourg The Netherlands in 1944 formed the Benelux. Which laid the foundation for the later European Union.
The Benelux admiralty was mentioned.
Always funny to remember that the EU is basically a massively bloated trade agreement for coal & steel in the benelux.
@@daanstrik4293 No lol. It used to be, that was called the EEG. But now, it's a much bigger, more fleshed out political ideology of unification. It's to avoid bloodshed, on the continent that saw the most wars throughout history, from ever happening again. That's why the EU exists.
...And the economical benefits sweeten the deal aswell.
@@horowitz8680it's a magnet for freeloaders and leeches.
The Benelux countries were also 3 of the 6 founding members of the precursor to the EU, the other 3 being France, West Germany and Italy. Which is historically very interesting if you draw parallells between the borders of those countries and then the HRE or the Carolingian empire. You might say its a project that has been thousands of years in the making.
Dutch marines are good at specialized tasks, we don't have large numbers, that's why we are specialists. specialized in humanitarian rescue missions, such as UN tasks, security, arctic training, anti-terrorism and hijackings. Furthermore, We have some of the best frogmen and mountain leaders in the world, they have high-quality equipment and combat knowledge and a mentality that is equal to the toughest army's in the world. We never give up!!
History of Dutch Marines (played in 1667). More Navies had "Marines" @ that time. But what Dutch Marines did was considered tobe the first "Modern Marines action" (Raid of Medway). They sailed almost 30 miles on a British River (under Admiral Michael de Ruiter) @ the end they found in a ("protected" harbor) the British (UK) Navy fleet, and destroyed 75% of that Navy fleet. British marines are still feeling honored to train with Dutch Marines.
Thats nonsense.
You base it on what the mariniers once were.
Fact of the matter is that every country has specialized troops. And a number of those now have combat experience, which is very important.
Furthermore, we only have a couple of 1000. Thats what Ukrain loses in a day.
@@StofStuiver As usual 1000% clueless about history. When you search YT, 1 of the many videos that show up. And this UK professor is not so smart as a random YT'er.
ruclips.net/video/RoB_wAcgZQM/видео.html
And Dutch Marines are still in the global Top 5. And the Brits joked in WW2 when a Dutch Navy ship "Michael de Ruijter" tried to port in London Harbor.
good and clear video, thanks. Strange it has not more views
Thank you and do appreciate your encouraging comment. This channel is just getting started and there's more to come.
@@DefenseIndex ai voice
I feel like this is just a chat gpt output thrown into a ai voiceover with stock footage :/
@@jesser1103 agreed, moving on to the next channel
Yeah its just getting sad now all effort thrown out of the window @jesser1103
The Dutch army also has a strong presence in the Dutch Caribbean, to patrol the drug routes between South America and the US, but also because it borders Venezuela. According to Venezuela, the Dutch Caribbean islands are part of their territory.
In 2010, there was almost a conflict between the Netherlands and Venezuela, because the American DEA arrested a Venezuelan consul in Aruba. President Hugo Chavez then sent his naval fleet to the Dutch Caribbean. Eventually, The Hague released the consul because he has immunity. Washington was furious with the Netherlands.
In addition, there is compulsory military service on the Dutch Caribbean islands. That is why there are militia units on Aruba and Curaçao.
The Dutch navy has two naval bases here and there are two marines, a commando corps stationed. In addition, there is a rotating army company. On all six Caribbean islands there is also a Royal Netherlands Coast Guard and Royal Marechaussee (Gendarme). The Dutch Customs is present on three islands.
Was het niet zo tijdens de MH17 gebeuren dat er een bepaald zuid amerikaans land 1 van onze bewindseiland bedreigde met een aantal mariene bootjes. En wie moesten we ookal om hulp vragen, omdat we niks daar in de buurt hadden of uberhaupt iets konden sturen
Good points. Sounds like a good topic.
The Dutch actually owns an F16 patent and built them at the Fokker factory for other European countries which is the reason why there are version differences compared to the United States models. Also HIMARS installations and more Patriot systems. Next to this there are also a bunch of private defense contractors developing new unmanned systems and thinking about NGAD unmanned drone fighter jets for the F35 networked platform
I've also heard that there are some incentives to re-establish small arms production in NL but idk how they are doing now
Small correction; we do not have himars systems but bought PULS instead. First systems were delivered earlier this year.
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Yea pity the F16 is not suited for prolonged combat.
F35 is even worse, with 70% non mission capable status.
My compliments! The video is very accurate and up to date. Very well edited too.
Its a load of hogwash
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Please do the Belgian armed forces next, it would be a nice follow-up on this one!
As far as I'm aware, the French built replacement submarines for the Walrus class are not slatted to carry tomahawks because the French builder does not have the security clearance to install them. Perhaps they will be added later by a different company. But as I heard, it will be tricky.
The French aren't building them alone. It was a bid by the NAVAL group and a network of Dutch companies that help installing and developing the systems.
@donenzonen I'm my opinion the national builder is often added because it makes the bid easier to sell politically.
Right now, they're saying Tomahawks for the subs. But we'll see, what the Dutch government said is any of the competitors (from France/Sweden/Germany) would've faced the same missile integration issue. France, though, has the Tomahawk-equivalent MdCN as a possible alternative.
Very well researched video. My compliments.
Tbf this is the video equivalent of reading out a wikipedia page
How can you judge that, if you dont know FACTS?
What is said on military is BS, but you or the people that voted you up, have no idea of that, so you think whatever is said and sounds good, is true.
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I thought this was a 200K plus channel. Apparently it is not, though the content definitely is at that level. You gained yourself another sub, keep making videos
I appreciate that and reading it is really encouraging. Thanks for subscribing!
Excellent video. I had to do a double take when looking at your subscriber count, expecting "207K", rather than "207" subscribers. The amount of research, clarity of presentation and overall production are of a standard that far exceeds this number. I have obviously liked and subscribed, and hopefully many more will do the same in the future. Keep up the good work!
Lets fix the subscriber amount
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A little mistake in the video at 20:00, all of the Dutch CH47 it currently has started life as the F model. The first 6 F models were delivered in the early 2010’s to replace 2 lost D models and grow the fleet to a total of 17 chinooks. (11x D, 6x F). These original F models did have special adaptations for the RNLAF, and were different compared to the standard US version. After the introduction of the F model, plans were made to upgrade the existing D models to F models, but after research the NL MOD found out it was actually better to replace the existing D, as of the original order of 13 units in 1993, only 6 were brand new, the other 7 are CH47C bought from Canada and upgraded to the D model. In 2015 the RNLAF ordered 14 new CH47F, to raplace the D models and grow the fleet to 20 units. To save some costs, the RNLAF bought the same versions as the US army, specifically the CH-47F MYII CAAS, as this was cheaper compared to more custimized versions like the original order of 6 F models, though the 14 newly ordered did have some slight upgrades compared to the US version, but nothing major. In order to get full fleet commonality, the RNLAF decided to upgrade the “old” F models tot the same standard as the “new” F models. Not a single Dutch CH-47D has been upgraded to ghe CH-47F model!
Right, thanks for the clarification.
I have been at Thales, a very big dutch company for a school project. They produce all sorts of radar systems for a bunch of countries. Almost all of the radar systems on dutch navy ships are from thales. 22:36 I have seen this radar system and it is really large, you can walk through it! And it has a range of over 2000 km! 37:16 This is a test room in thales I have been here.
Very cool video, I really liked it!
Glad you liked it. That's a great experience you had visiting Thales, one of the world's leading radar companies.
at 6:21 you could've probably mentioned that rotterdam is the largest port in europe and therefore we are probably going to be an important transit hub in such a scenario
That's right.
Well put together video man, really love the background shots
Thank you!
Never seen a video that describes the modern Dutch armed forces in such a detailed and correct way. I went into the video wondering how much would be correct and how deep the info would be, but I'm positively surprised by everything! There probably are some minor stuff that's missing but well, that's minor. Are you from the Netherlands yourself?
Thank you! I really appreciate that.
High quality video, keep this up and you'll make it.
Thank you! That's encouraging.
honestly pretty good for an ai voiced video, usually they are complete slop but this is well researched
Very solid post 👍🏼, as a Dutchie there were lots of things I did not know about. Especially the enormous amount of changes to the navy. Thanks again !
Thank you! I knew they had some naval projects going on but yes, I was also surprised how comprehensive they were.
The organization for the logistics is called NDTA, it’s a combination of Belgium, Dutch and US army and Dutch and Belgian civilians who are specialized in logistics.
The reason is that Antwerp and Rotterdam are the two biggest harbors in Europe and consist of the best logistics due to their infrastructure is very complicated but super efficient. We are the gate to Germany and Europe!
Right, good point about logistics.
@ without logistics wars are lost, Napoleon, Hitler are the prime examples.
Ukraine and the Netherlands now have created atleast 1 factory for drones in the Netherlands.
We might be small but we pack a punch!
The navy is respectable.
i wish we also built scale-able ammo muntions factories
something tells me that will happen soon enough. with america going crazy, we cannot depend on them. particularly perhaps a good thing....
It is already being done on European scale. French and German companies already received support to scale up production
Up to date en wel done.thx
Thanks!
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Excellent video! Nevertheless I have a couple remarks. The Dutch armed forces will acquire some 500 Caracal vehicles and Germany approx. 1,000. I miss the Vector ATV used by KCT, MARSOF and the Ranger Battalion (part of 11 Air Assault Brigade). Other than that, again, excellent video. Keep up the good work!
Very good 👍 Thanks.
Greets from Grun' 🇳🇱, TW.
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We may be small, but very well maintained.
I am from the Netherlands and a proud that we as a small nation work closely with our neighbors and not the US for me personally it’s become clear that the us wants a radical religious Christian dictatorship under Trump, I would have some hope for a Harris administration but….. the world is better of with out a Christian,putting loving pathetic blode us president who’s only interest is not to get convinced. I applaud Europe for following the current events and in doing so supporting Ukraine more importantly strengthening the EU defenses!
Let me be clear the current events shows us that the accords made for the un after WW2 have failed, especially concerning the security council witch includes us Russia and china, if one suggest one thin the rest will veto this and as such it needs to be restructured and all tree need to be kicked out of it and replaced by a temporary council with a government who has been elected by the people in a free election ( and I don’t care if it’s left, right or trough the middle, the voters decide)
The current events shows the world that it is time for a new un character with out the us, Russia or china leading the Assembly of the free world
I learned a lot from this video, thanks!
up that CV90 number to 300 and you have a scary force.
the main component of the danish armed forces is the national guard (hjemmeværnet), which wastly outnumbers the standing army. A cheap and efficient way of protecting the homeland. other countries, please take notice of this!
We have the same, called heimevernet
18:30 the Netherlands stores the largest stockpile of B61 nuclear gravity bombs in Europe…as with respect to its nuclear role in the US/Nato nuclear triad
Volkel airbase is cleared for a maximum of 15 B61 nuclear weapons. This is the maximum number of warheads the storage vaults at the airbase can hold. So 15 max and the actual number of weapons that is stored is classified but is likely less. This is the same number of weapons that are stored in Belgium and Germany. Italy and Turkey are cleared for 20 warheads each so these two countries potentially have more warheads in their bases vaults then the Netherlands. This is the latest information from the Federation of American Scientists from december 2023. Everything is highly classified so things might have changed but your statement that ''the Netherlands stores the largest stockpile of B61 nuclear gravity bombs in Europe'' is nonsence.
@ thx for sharing…(my exaggeration was not only ignorance…also trying to make a point ;)
Ex-PM Lubbers once claimed there were 22 B61's in Volkel AB. Asked for a reaction, a RNLAF spokesman said these ""are never spoken of". www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-22840880
Great video!
Thanks!
we also got the DSI, a combination of army and police, used in all sorts of issues, from disturbed people to terrorism. Very unique
There are more Marines in DSI then Amy
@T40Xdav could be, i should say military instead of army i realise.
@ yes. ‘Army’ is only the land force (Koninklijke Landmacht). DSI is made up of Police and military members (Marines, Army and Marechaussee - don’t think that have Navy (fleet) and Air Force)
@T40Xdav i got lost in translation lol
Do not forget ABC caraibian countries and municipalities like aruba, curaçao, st martin, saba, bonaire and st eustatius its a bit bigger and strategic interesting country...
Yes, I could only mention them briefly but the Dutch Caribbean is interesting too.
Dutch are used with joint missions, chief NATO Rutte is on a joint mission.
Rutte is a weasel that shouldn't be trusted.
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Spotted the FvD-troll.
@@dutchsailor6620 gelukkig is hij hier opgerut :)
Note that the new Submarines were signed, but are not allowed tomahawk missles because Washington doesnt trust the french not to steal their design. They may be added afterwards.
i think we need to forget about america, now that they went full cult....
It's where the Dutch partners are for. The French aren't building them alone.
@donenzonen yes, i think we provide i.e. the best naval rafar systems.
History of Dutch Marines (played in 1667). More Navies had "Marines" @ that time. But what Dutch Marines did was considered tobe the first "Modern Marines action" (Raid of Medway). They sailed almost 30 miles on a British River (under Admiral Michael de Ruiter) @ the end they found in a ("protected" harbor) the British (UK) Navy fleet, and destroyed 75% of that Navy fleet. British marines are still feeling honored to train with Dutch Marines.
Well done. I think you are a bit flattering, but still, good content. The challenge now is to divide up the little we have between ourselves, our partners Germany, UK and of course, especially Ukraine.
Thanks and yes, it isn't big but it's modern and has a lot to do with alliances and partnerships.
Greetings from the Netherlands!
Hello too!
Really ? This is your first and only video ?
Come on, make mooooore.
I liked the taste of this one, so I'm hungry for more.
Do Belgium next.
Or expand on the Dutch - UK collaberation.
And @all: watch Big Mac's Battle Blog, or Brandon Mitchel. They're awesome.
Indeed, it is. Working on more haha. Thanks!
Given how we are located, our defensive future should be mainly Naval and staying innovative of course.
Unbelievable that the Netherlands had 1000 tanks and 300 fighter jets late 1980s. Defence has to be considered as having an insurance. Ukraine has shown us that we could almost spare no weapons or ordnance.
About the natres. They are allound to serve a broad. For security and supporting tasks. But you get ask to volunteer to go abroad. They can not force you.
Thanks for clarifying that.
to be able to scale up significantly, i would think bringing back conscription is the most logical step. that could easily produce a100.000 reserve personnel in a couple of years. Spain has another good trick, i think, to get more soldiers: south americans who join the spanish army get a spanish passport after a couple of years of service. they have of course the great advantage of the common language.....difficult for the dutch to find people wiith the same language...
The new airdefence systems are 21 Nasams and 18 Nomads
I gotta wonder, with the odd intonation and emphasis on words (as if the reader has no idea what words come next or when a sentence ends): are these videos voiced by text-to-speech?
100% ai voice
Great video, pretty accurate and complete except that you didn’t mention the establisment of the 12th Ranger Batallion as part of the 11th Air Mobile Brigade.
currently; equipment being given away (replacements still years in the making), army has to practice without ammo (shortage) ect.
im dutch and i knew none of this
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Well done. Very informative.
wanna take our land, go ahead,, bring boats and waterproof clothing ;)
18TH GDP, and 13TH GDP per capita
Capabel Defense, great joke your majesty
7:17the boxer was not designed as a combat vehicle 11:50 the Fennek is severely outdated and not suitable as a combat vehicle, but is suitable as a reconnaissance vehicle or launch platform for anti-tank weapons.

Great vid.
Thanks!
they recently ordered additional F-35's
The Dutch with their small army fighting for Mo, Ahmed, Salim, Tyrone, Kunta and Jabari,but not Jan, Piet en John. 😂
i guess "compact but capable" is one way to say the koninklijke landmacht went from over nearly 900 tanks and 2000 IFVs to barely 124 IFVs in 10 years.
Thanks to the leftist government :)
I don't really see what we need tanks for, I think increased specialisation of national armies while integrating them on a European level is the way forward. We use German tanks, they use our sensors and marine expertise.
There is still shortage of ammunition.
or that's what they want the adversaries to think to be true
Nah the soldiers can just yell "bang bang" when training 😂
@@UndercoverPirate69I can assure you it's not.
Seriously you guys are taking the piss out of me! Do you really want the truth about the Dutch armed forces? I worked for the Dutch army for 20 years, twice in Afghanistan and once in Bosnia. And I'll tell you it won't be because of the units that are still there. But the Dutch armed forces have been cut back so much by the government that they don't even have ammunition to practice, let alone carry out a mission. It's a terrible mess there. It's full of overpaid officers and nothing else. And who is responsible for that? The current head of NATO, Mark Rutte.
At least he finally went to the optician to get some vision when he became head of NATO :)
Spot on! What's left of it is just a joke, only a shadow of what it was during the Cold War and where it was completely independent. All the expertise that's lost ... Thanks Rutte! What a mess he made, not just of the Dutch armed forces but of everything.
@@framek5736 Onzin dat Rutte daar de schuld van is.
De bezuinigingen en afbouw van defenste is in de 80ger jaren al ingezet.
De vredesbeweging, denk aan het IKV, Mient Jan Faber, Pax Christi, ban de bom, linkse partijen hebben in de 70 en 80er jaren hard ingezet op de demilitarisatie van Nederland.
please make a video about the Turkish army
The dutch cold war army was carzy big how did that even fit in the country
Lots of barracks in all the cities, even the small ones. Most of those are now closed or converted to office space, schools, housing for refugees, etc.
Capable? The Dutch not even have proper Winter clothes.
Half of our forces quit when they heard they were about to go on a mission, the other half quit afterwards when they came home by freight plane because the government thought an passenger plane was to expensive and it was corona time so straight to quarantine
did you forget the Commando`s? our green berets
as far as i know there are several problems with the new subs firing tomahawks. There is no permission of the USA to implement the systems needed to fire the tomahawk from the new french subs causing major upset on top of an already controversial path to buy french instead of building dutch systems or buy german.
The Dutch are no longer capable of building subs (that company went backrupt in the 90's). You mean a Swedish sub (the name Damen was only there for the illusion of the sub being Dutch).
the dutch are more then capable of building subs, it would require some industry upgrades but knowhow (and knowledge) are available.
We need a massive drone army and huge stockpile longrange missile stuff . Like Russia if all tanks are gone they still can shoot missiles for years..
We are investing in drone tech. Recently a factory was opened in the Netherlands as a joint effort with Ukraine
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The Dutch Royal Navy I hold in high regard the rest has become a joke. At the end of the 80s we had almost 1000 leopard tanks. In 2024.. a few borrowed tanks from Germany.
And judging from the number of open jobs nobody is interested in fighting careers anymore.
on the other hand, we saved Billions and billions in costs of unused materials. which makes us quite rich. so now we can basically buy whatever we want.
@@CyberBeep_kenshi Maybe we should focus on "simple" matters like compensation for the child benefits affair in The Netherlands. Because if we are not able to solve small matters how can we be trusted with big matters?
The 'old army' was made for 'old style wars'. Big numbers needed to oppose huge invading forces. Currently, the Dutch Army is very capable of doing specialised tasks, together with allies. This army suits the current, and very changed situation.
@@UnusSedLeo-w5l lol tell that to the russians and chicoms...
@@UnusSedLeo-w5l Steadfast Defender 2024 was the biggest NATO exercise since the Cold War. The whole doctrine switch from GWOT back to Cold War started happening since 2022. We're buying tanks, bringing SPGs out of storage, acquiring rocket artillery and increasing readiness levels. These are not signs of a focus on specialized tasks but a clear doctrine shift back to large-scale high intensity conflicts. Ukraine just showed these wars are not relics of history. I'm not saying I believe Russia will invade a NATO state, but not being ready for war has hurt us in the past and can always do so again. I'm assuming with specialized tasks you're talking about our minesweeper focus and SOF from submarines or just our general focus on training for assymetric threats, and some of these can/will still fit well into the new bigger picture.
The airforce is OK, the navy is OK-ish, the land army is still ridiculously small. Professional soldiers are so expensive to keep on payroll that few EU country can afford more than a few thousand.
Seeing that a Soviet-type army can field hundreds of thousands, there is no other way than training up a sizeable reservist force, even if it seems like a huge waste of time for young men (and possibly women).
Also, let's not forget about the ammo - while the number of F-35s or helicopters seem nice, the whole army is defunct if it runs out of ammo in 2 weeks of fighting. Or food. Or fuel. Logistics is an invisible, but vital part of the army, something the government can't go boasting about, so probably getting underfunded.
Possibly? Im not going if they arent. Its equality time. They voted for it. If they dont want to fight then they can cook and clean stuff and repair broken equipment, but I say theyre going, same as the men. Im not going to risk my life for them without any effort from their part, with how theyve been treating men in this country over the past decades.
Please site sources
This is outdated wisdom. Drones, robots will more and more decide wars. One fighter jet that costs a billion will lose out to people with upgraded toys. The Netherlands should envision future warfare, not arm up for all that works less and less in Ukraine. Being a high tech country they can go for light and smart, mobile, fast and flexible.
we had to travel for a week from our barracks in ede to the site of havelte to guard the, officially non existent, atomic bombs there.
we left with some vehicles and arrived with some other vehicles as some vehicles had broken down on the 115 kilometers to havelte and had to be replaced.
we calculated that if all vehicles of the dutch army were to set of for moscow, the russians would not need to worry as none would arrive due to them breaking down on the way...
that was some 50 years ago.
i am convinced it still is the same.
please note u are convinced by feels and not fact.
alot can happen in 50 years.
@@SoYFooD2 indeed, a lot did happen.
conscription ended, so now there are no longer any sane persons in the army.
those new landing class ships the 6 that replace 2 diffirent types will be heavely armed.
Right now, looks like self-defense weapons only. Transport plus counter-drugs/Caribbean patrols.
Is this an AI generated voice?
Yep, it is.
i sud to you nice video about my country
Thank you!
52 Tanks.... those will last for 3 weeks in modern, Ukraine style combat.
So? That’s true for every country fighting a modern large scale coventional war. It’s not like the Netherlands is going up alone in such scenario, it’s the whole NATO that will deploy - and the Dutch Army will we incorporated into German divisions. You know NATO is the most powerfull military alliance ever created?
Its leopard 2a7 not 2a6
Air mobile got 3 brigades ...
Not true at all. how do you come up with that nonsense?
disliked for the AI voice :)
We have no thanks! All is in Ukraine! :) Edwin Netherlands
like this video !!! but sounds soooo AI , voice skips way to much and far from a normal person speaking xD
A nice thing to know about the war in Afghanistan: The king, back then crownprince Willem-Alexander actually flew combat missions there in Apache attack helicopters.
Is this true!?
If so BASED.
Source?
Absolute bollocks, think you're confusing Prins Pils with Prince Harry from the British royals.
Bullshit! He flew a training mission in Gilze-Rijen, NOT in Afghanistan.
@@jorikrouwenhorst7220 NO
Our problem is that our military are thinking, they don’t jump when said so, they will say why? That is a problem for most other forces, but we are just like that.
And if you need logistics, then we are the best, in every way we can organize the logistics of any battlefield.
When training soldiers is extremely expensive and time consuming its a good thing they dont risk their lives without questioning orders.
You can see the problem with cheap cannon fodder in the current Ukraine war, those poor conscripts dont stand a chance and they get shot in the back if they ask questions.
@ correct, but this has also to do with the culture in a country. We were never from an order is an order. It’s just how we are wired.
i hate how this ai says unquote
So everything went to shit when the vodka nation attacked in 2014.
Is this AI content
Forget it
I bet thevGermans are taking notes 👀
Is it or is it not Ai generated?
AI 100%
Human-generated content. Cheers.
They are gonna buy a tirth MSS i heard
We'll see. It started out as four when the MSS was still known as MICAN/TRIFIC.
another chat gpt esque ai voiceover video in youtube.........
We have to little people and who is surprised. At a certain point soldiers were told they should not wear their uniforms when leaving the base because they could be victim of muslim attacks. INSIDE THEIR OWN COUNTRY
*terrorist attack
Not Muslim attack.
Big difference
Came down to the same thing.@@JABN97
@@RK-cj4oc no youre just racist
@@JABN97let's be 100% clear, it was specifically meant for that....
@@RK-cj4oc
Dude:
Terrorist: someone who used violence, often deliberate against civilian targets, to terrify a population in order to achieve political goals.
Examples: AmericanKKK, Irish provisional IRA, German RAF, Al Quida
Muslim: someone who is a member of the Islamic faith.
Example: Ibn Batutta; a world famous geographer. Saladin; who fought for, led and united the Muslim factions against the Third Crusade; whom even his Christian enemies praised as a good and faithful man. Former mayor of Rotterdam Ahmed Aboutaleb, one of the best mayor’s the Netherlands had seen in the past 3 decades.
And yes, also asshats like the Ayatollah of Iran.
Don’t blame the violence threat on all Muslims, that is idiotic and also evil.
Blame it on the actual bad guys, the terrorists
Yes, in that case it was mostly a warning against Islamic terrorists. But we have also had to fight facist terrorists, Christian fundamentalist terrorists, catholic Spanish terrorists in the 1600’s, communists and anarchist terrorists etc over the years.
The problem is the terrorist part, not the ideology part
AI voice.. no.