Leave your suggestion down below and your idea could be used in the next video! (Btw I do look at older videos for ideas too so just comment it anywhere) My thoughts on this showcase: Jiaoqiu V3 is out and honestly he feels pretty nice. Iirc his burn also counts as *DOT* now which means he might be better than Ruan Mei in that department now. In all honesty he is definitely "better" than Gallagher in terms of making 0 cycles happen, even if Gallagher gives more break dmg on ult. On one of my test runs with him here I even oneshot Gepard 💀 *However* this is NOT worth his placement in the team as he will have so much more benefit elsewhere such as DOT teams, Acheron comp and FUA. Putting him on Firefly team is still (imo) unfitting especially if you don't have a decently built Firefly as you WILL be getting hit if you don't do enough damage. TL:DR Cool and works but better elsewhere when Gallagher does roughly the same in this comp. I'll be making a discord server soon and I hope it'll be out by the time ZZZ releases so stay tuned for that! Also will be posting a ZZZ video on release about first impressions (as I've seen pretty much nothing on it so far).
@@Sky-8754 Unless lingsha also boosts break by a lot they will probably be a sidegrade. Stuff gallagher has going for him: Hands down best SP gen in the game Can break ridiculously fast at e6 with action advance and in built 30% break efficiency. Is a great healer in general.
@@hypemaddox Lingsha is said to be new break healer but anything can be change same as what JQ does. He totally change his kits with prior leak stuff that said def down + bit heal
@@RealMelodyHinari Im just stating the type of stuff I would personally think it would take to overshadow gallagher in a pull value perspective for break team specifically.
@@hypemaddox I think Lingsha if she come over Gallag position maybe some boost break eff + break dmg vuln. but SP positive is still 50/50 since her extreme SP negative on Firefly is all gone within E1
Bro I just need 2.4 to come already so we can see what lingsha can do. From the little we know her LC gives a fix amount of speed to the entire team based on her break effect. Update: - Basic ATK, Skill and Ultimate all performs attacks. - Can summon action bar events that heal and performs attacks, lasting for multiple turns. Lightcone after the wearer performs an attack, gains a stackable Boost that increases the SPD and Break Effect of the entire team
@@YungNah-t8f Its probably because the new mobs are fast asf and can give speed boost(the buff gets removed when they are weakness broken). Also it probably to help FF hit her next speed breakpoint which will allow to go 5 times in a cycle.
@@bottomfragger-kfpdogwater6804 i think break is their favorite child... the released 2 busted break units then 2 weake af fua characters and now they want another 2 op break characters
She will be better than Gallagher right? No way Gallagher gets the same clear times with her light cone, if that's the case then no point in pulling her.
Hopefully in the next version they will add the ability to heal in his ultimate, currently I see many people comparing Jiaoqiu with other Nihility characters and criticizing it too weak, stronger than Guinaifen but weak to other characters. Otherwise, if healing is added, players may know Jiaoqiu's role better
V3 is usually the only big change that happens in a characters kit, with V4 being a small nerf/buff and V5 being rewordings and such. So it's not too hopeful out here.
@@Giovansbilly instead of asking for a Nihility that allows you to use a harmony, why not asking for a nihility with a functional kit? The problem is not the path, the problem are the characters themselves because most of the roster sucks. Harmony is not better than Nihility at damage amplification, what happens is that Nihility amplifiers are currently either too niched(SW requires ST, otherwise she's bad) or are capped by being 4 stars(Pela). SW Amplification in the right scenarios is stronger than Ruan Mei (SW can do up to 33% Res Shred vs RM 25% Res Pen, SW can apply up to 69% def shred with S5 pearls vs RM 68% damage buff without S1). if SW was AoE she would be better against off elment stages than RM for non break dps, against on element stages her Res Shred falls to 13% so she would be weaker.
the dmg increase is actually very decent, but i feel like pela does the same job and shes easier to get so can you please now try comparing pela and jiaoqiu😭😭
@@GachaKricisnot really. Firefly here has her LC and all. Combined with her ult, she already has 44% vulnerability multiplier. The increase of Jiaoqiu here in terms of dmg won't be as high as Pela's aoe Def shred of 40% + Iron Cavalry's 25%. And Pela would end up scaling better if u have FF and RM E1
but RM is better for off element, Res Pen is stronger when enemies have more Res... Break Efficiency represents minimal dps increase outside of super break.
@@BailuGaming really? I've never seen a showcase of RM with Dot team being off element. But with Robin I saw one, on the current MOC Argenti. You can enlighten me on that one if there are any showcases.
Nah, I skip both. The people want JQ to be DoT, here. Not what I wanted because they nerfed other part of him and most importantly his sig lc is changed. I was hoping for just stronger vulnerability debuff but this change just limits him to certain comps. Great going community, for encouraging this change, I fking hate it!! And Yunli dmg nerfed, hohoho clara is still viable but they changed her Eidolons to be pay to win, hah!
@@Reigisan-u6pv3 is the most change for character kits. v4 is go for a minor change and v5 is totally small fixed/reword so he has only 1 hope(less) patch to make him better
From what I see its not a nerf but adjusted? Total vulnerability debuff now is 35% instead of 40% (now weaker than E6 guinaifen). But then signature LC is buffed; total vulnerability used to be 18% but now its 24%. Its a nerf for E0 jiaoqiu but a buff to E0S1 jiaoqiu The only true thing that he lost her is his potential as critdps
Ficou melhor nada. Ele já causava Dano Adicional de Fogo na V1, só não era DoT, ser DoT agora não agregou em nada no Dano. Ele não tem espaço nenhum nas equipes de DoT pq ele não é melhor que nenhum dos BiS da equipe, nem melhor que a Black Sean nem melhor que a Ruan Mei. A única coisa que essa V3 fez foi cagar os multiplicadores dele, sumiram com o Dano do personagem. Se dependesse de mim, na V3 sumiam com aquela parte de DoT da E2 que tava totalmente perdida no kit do personagem e adicionavam a cura. Tomaram o pior caminho possível pro personagem e a chance da V4 ser só rewording é muito grande.
@@vitorjjgameplays5786 não precisa ser melhor q ninguém. Até pq a maioria do povo via usar ele com acheron e não na equipe de Dot. Não precisa ser pra dano e sim suporte pra ela ter ult rápido. E até pq equipe de Dot nunca vi dando dano alto se não aplicar vários Dot no inimigo, tenho cisne e vejo q ela sem outro Dot na equipe ela é podre sozinha. E cura vcs pedem muito pra um personagem fora do caminhos dos sustem do jogo. Pra q o jogo ia lançar abundância se outros caminhos estão curando kkk
@@felipesouza1792 Por que a Acheron e o Welt existem sendo CRIT DPSs da Inexistência se já tem 3 Caminhos pra DPS, A Caça, Destruição e Erudição? Por que a Huohuo regenera Energia e buffa ATQ sendo que ela é A Abundância e não A Harmonia? Por que a Fu Xuan CURA ao invés de dar Escudo se ela é A Preservação e não A Abundância? Acorda, filho, personagem com mecânica Crosspathing já exite faz é tempo no jogo. Se eles não inovam nos Caminhos, daqui um tempo todo personagem vai ser uma Yunli da vida (só uma cópia de outro personagem com uns buffs diferentes e um detalhe ou outra de diferença nos ataques). E como você mesmo disse, ninguém vai usar ele pra DoT, triple DoT não é mais forte que double DoT com Ruan Mei e vai continuar não sendo, terem cagado os multiplicadores dele só pro Dano ser DoT foi o maior tiro no pé dos devs nos últimos tempos. A tampa do caixão vai ser quando confirmarem que a BS é o rerun do Banner dele. Eu reclamo pq eu quero o personagem pq eu jogo de Acheron, mas nesse ritmo o personagem vai ser tão simples e banal que ele só vai servir de bateria pra Acheron, e quando lançarem outro personagem que serve o mesmo papel, mas não se resume àquilo e pode jogar de outras formas, o Jiaoqiu se torna insignificante.
@@vitorjjgameplays5786 qnd tem um personagem q faz outro caminho é bem ruim. Não é aquela ajuda se fosse específico. Agora reclamar pq o personagem virar uma bateria pra acheron kkkk como se os bonecos não fossem ser substituído no futuro. Welt é trap então ele ganhou uma versão 2.0 assim como bronya, clara, bailu. Os personagens sempre vao ser melhorados em outros. Se pegar huohuo e fuxuan QM cura mais na partida. Ou tinguyn e huohuo QM enche a ult mais rápido do aliado, isso q tinguyn é t4 antiga. Qnd faz dois caminhos um sempre é meia boca pra não desvalorizar o outro.
Sure, I just didn't know what to use that had fireweakness and I didn't want to fight the same boss as last time. That'll probably be a couple videos down the line though because there are a few ideas in the previous video that had me kind of interested.
I don't remember what buff it was, but what I know is that it was previously in moc during banner robin where every time we hit 6 times we would get additional energy.
Nah hes fine. He's pretty chill actually as a solo debuffer. In acheron comps 100% def shred reigns supreme until e2 when you run solo debuffer. And his stuff counts as dot like black swan now so I think hes chilling in his spotlight teams.
@@GachaKricis ye, people complained about him being jack of all trades but master of non which means he has multiple capabilities but doesn't excel onit (e.g debuffing n DoT) which kinda sucks
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Leave your suggestion down below and your idea could be used in the next video! (Btw I do look at older videos for ideas too so just comment it anywhere)
My thoughts on this showcase:
Jiaoqiu V3 is out and honestly he feels pretty nice. Iirc his burn also counts as *DOT* now which means he might be better than Ruan Mei in that department now. In all honesty he is definitely "better" than Gallagher in terms of making 0 cycles happen, even if Gallagher gives more break dmg on ult. On one of my test runs with him here I even oneshot Gepard 💀
*However* this is NOT worth his placement in the team as he will have so much more benefit elsewhere such as DOT teams, Acheron comp and FUA. Putting him on Firefly team is still (imo) unfitting especially if you don't have a decently built Firefly as you WILL be getting hit if you don't do enough damage.
TL:DR Cool and works but better elsewhere when Gallagher does roughly the same in this comp.
I'll be making a discord server soon and I hope it'll be out by the time ZZZ releases so stay tuned for that! Also will be posting a ZZZ video on release about first impressions (as I've seen pretty much nothing on it so far).
speaking of Jiaoqiu's place in DOT teams, I've been seeing word that he could replace Ruan Mei there so maybe a comparison there would be helpful too
Can you please try dotcheron but bs is using jiu's sig and kafka is using bs's sig?
Gallagoat as usual
No he is getting powercreep in 2.5
@@Sky-8754 Unless lingsha also boosts break by a lot they will probably be a sidegrade.
Stuff gallagher has going for him:
Hands down best SP gen in the game
Can break ridiculously fast at e6 with action advance and in built 30% break efficiency.
Is a great healer in general.
@@hypemaddox Lingsha is said to be new break healer but anything can be change same as what JQ does. He totally change his kits with prior leak stuff that said def down + bit heal
@@RealMelodyHinari Im just stating the type of stuff I would personally think it would take to overshadow gallagher in a pull value perspective for break team specifically.
@@hypemaddox I think Lingsha if she come over Gallag position maybe some boost break eff + break dmg vuln. but SP positive is still 50/50 since her extreme SP negative on Firefly is all gone within E1
1:35 - Gallagher : SUPER BREAK DAMAGE: 453K
3:16 -Jiaoqiu: SUPER BREAK DAMAGE: 500K+
The healthbar depletion is crazy
Jiaoqiu has more vuln, but no damage.
Bro I just need 2.4 to come already so we can see what lingsha can do. From the little we know her LC gives a fix amount of speed to the entire team based on her break effect.
Update:
- Basic ATK, Skill and Ultimate all performs attacks.
- Can summon action bar events that heal and performs attacks, lasting for multiple turns.
Lightcone after the wearer performs an attack, gains a stackable Boost that increases the SPD and Break Effect of the entire team
Bruh I don’t need more speed on my break team wth with RM everyone easily at 160 wth hoyo cooking
@@YungNah-t8f Its probably because the new mobs are fast asf and can give speed boost(the buff gets removed when they are weakness broken). Also it probably to help FF hit her next speed breakpoint which will allow to go 5 times in a cycle.
@@bottomfragger-kfpdogwater6804 i think break is their favorite child... the released 2 busted break units then 2 weake af fua characters and now they want another 2 op break characters
She will be better than Gallagher right? No way Gallagher gets the same clear times with her light cone, if that's the case then no point in pulling her.
@@Ikaretayaroudaze Well seeing that this is a Gacha game where they sell characters I would assume she will be better than a 4 star yea lmao.
Hopefully in the next version they will add the ability to heal in his ultimate, currently I see many people comparing Jiaoqiu with other Nihility characters and criticizing it too weak, stronger than Guinaifen but weak to other characters. Otherwise, if healing is added, players may know Jiaoqiu's role better
V3 is usually the only big change that happens in a characters kit, with V4 being a small nerf/buff and V5 being rewordings and such. So it's not too hopeful out here.
So ultimately, they don't want to buff Acheron too much for F2Ps by allowing an actual harmony unit to be added to her team
@@Giovansbillyyup.
Thank the dot simps that cried he wasn't "a top tier dot dps".
Jiaoqiu heals will not be good if he ever heals, he's a Amplifier and subdps for DoT, not a sustainer.
@@Giovansbilly instead of asking for a Nihility that allows you to use a harmony, why not asking for a nihility with a functional kit?
The problem is not the path, the problem are the characters themselves because most of the roster sucks.
Harmony is not better than Nihility at damage amplification, what happens is that Nihility amplifiers are currently either too niched(SW requires ST, otherwise she's bad) or are capped by being 4 stars(Pela).
SW Amplification in the right scenarios is stronger than Ruan Mei (SW can do up to 33% Res Shred vs RM 25% Res Pen, SW can apply up to 69% def shred with S5 pearls vs RM 68% damage buff without S1). if SW was AoE she would be better against off elment stages than RM for non break dps, against on element stages her Res Shred falls to 13% so she would be weaker.
Can you try jiaoqiu vs black swan with acheron?
you can try Acheron+pela+silver wolf. vs Acheron+JQ+silver wolf??? please
GOAT actually did it. Been wanting to see this comparison. Great work
the dmg increase is actually very decent, but i feel like pela does the same job and shes easier to get
so can you please now try comparing pela and jiaoqiu😭😭
Pela does a worse job in specifically this team because fire. But in an Acheron comp I think they'll be pretty comparable. We'll see though :)
Pela is not comparable to Jiaoqui😂
@@RetalsslateR they hype up Pela so much is so funny
@@RetalsslateRyea, jiao doesn't compare to pela but to guin, that's the general consensus of most of the communities
@@GachaKricisnot really. Firefly here has her LC and all. Combined with her ult, she already has 44% vulnerability multiplier. The increase of Jiaoqiu here in terms of dmg won't be as high as Pela's aoe Def shred of 40% + Iron Cavalry's 25%. And Pela would end up scaling better if u have FF and RM E1
Could you test jq + kafka? I would like to see your dot damage potential in v3
Can you try him in DoT team
duuhhhh, gallagher is dedicated to breaking
0:41 con gallager vs 2:26 con jiaoqiu
gallager have the double break glitch while jiaoqiu only have normal break but the dmg is kinda same. so jiaoqiu is literally better than gallager
Can you pls compare him with black swan in an Acheron team with Pela? It would be greatly appreciated
Can you please try dotcheron but bs is using jiu's sig and kafka is using bs's sig?
Hi can you put Firefly team against the new MOC? I’m interested to see how well she do without the buffs
She'll do just great there is no hp inflation to worry about and such tests for previous mocs were done before she came out
Does 'Jiaoqiu ultimate' and the effect of 'Trend of the universal market LC' will give Acheron 2 crimson knot in one enemy turn?
no
Only 1 stacks per turn, in thats case its the enemies turn
It made abundance units valuable now so Gallagher gives more debuffs than preservation units
Can you try Kafka, swan, Robin and Jiaoqui? Is the sustain good enough i want to see.
If you are on element then switch Robin with Ruanmei
but RM is better for off element, Res Pen is stronger when enemies have more Res... Break Efficiency represents minimal dps increase outside of super break.
@@BailuGaming really? I've never seen a showcase of RM with Dot team being off element. But with Robin I saw one, on the current MOC Argenti. You can enlighten me on that one if there are any showcases.
Nah, I skip both. The people want JQ to be DoT, here. Not what I wanted because they nerfed other part of him and most importantly his sig lc is changed. I was hoping for just stronger vulnerability debuff but this change just limits him to certain comps. Great going community, for encouraging this change, I fking hate it!! And Yunli dmg nerfed, hohoho clara is still viable but they changed her Eidolons to be pay to win, hah!
why need to be mad bro? its still v3, calm down, we still have 2 more version,
@@Reigisan-u6pv3 is the most change for character kits. v4 is go for a minor change and v5 is totally small fixed/reword so he has only 1 hope(less) patch to make him better
@@RealMelodyHinari then its f*ck up
From what I see its not a nerf but adjusted?
Total vulnerability debuff now is 35% instead of 40% (now weaker than E6 guinaifen). But then signature LC is buffed; total vulnerability used to be 18% but now its 24%. Its a nerf for E0 jiaoqiu but a buff to E0S1 jiaoqiu
The only true thing that he lost her is his potential as critdps
@@pinkinglily6447 who is that last part you talk about? her or his?
ele ficou mais forte agora q tem dot no seu kit padrao. pericias tirando quase o dano do supremo é otimo.
Ficou melhor nada. Ele já causava Dano Adicional de Fogo na V1, só não era DoT, ser DoT agora não agregou em nada no Dano. Ele não tem espaço nenhum nas equipes de DoT pq ele não é melhor que nenhum dos BiS da equipe, nem melhor que a Black Sean nem melhor que a Ruan Mei. A única coisa que essa V3 fez foi cagar os multiplicadores dele, sumiram com o Dano do personagem. Se dependesse de mim, na V3 sumiam com aquela parte de DoT da E2 que tava totalmente perdida no kit do personagem e adicionavam a cura. Tomaram o pior caminho possível pro personagem e a chance da V4 ser só rewording é muito grande.
@@vitorjjgameplays5786 não precisa ser melhor q ninguém. Até pq a maioria do povo via usar ele com acheron e não na equipe de Dot. Não precisa ser pra dano e sim suporte pra ela ter ult rápido. E até pq equipe de Dot nunca vi dando dano alto se não aplicar vários Dot no inimigo, tenho cisne e vejo q ela sem outro Dot na equipe ela é podre sozinha. E cura vcs pedem muito pra um personagem fora do caminhos dos sustem do jogo. Pra q o jogo ia lançar abundância se outros caminhos estão curando kkk
@@felipesouza1792 Por que a Acheron e o Welt existem sendo CRIT DPSs da Inexistência se já tem 3 Caminhos pra DPS, A Caça, Destruição e Erudição? Por que a Huohuo regenera Energia e buffa ATQ sendo que ela é A Abundância e não A Harmonia? Por que a Fu Xuan CURA ao invés de dar Escudo se ela é A Preservação e não A Abundância?
Acorda, filho, personagem com mecânica Crosspathing já exite faz é tempo no jogo. Se eles não inovam nos Caminhos, daqui um tempo todo personagem vai ser uma Yunli da vida (só uma cópia de outro personagem com uns buffs diferentes e um detalhe ou outra de diferença nos ataques).
E como você mesmo disse, ninguém vai usar ele pra DoT, triple DoT não é mais forte que double DoT com Ruan Mei e vai continuar não sendo, terem cagado os multiplicadores dele só pro Dano ser DoT foi o maior tiro no pé dos devs nos últimos tempos. A tampa do caixão vai ser quando confirmarem que a BS é o rerun do Banner dele.
Eu reclamo pq eu quero o personagem pq eu jogo de Acheron, mas nesse ritmo o personagem vai ser tão simples e banal que ele só vai servir de bateria pra Acheron, e quando lançarem outro personagem que serve o mesmo papel, mas não se resume àquilo e pode jogar de outras formas, o Jiaoqiu se torna insignificante.
@@vitorjjgameplays5786 qnd tem um personagem q faz outro caminho é bem ruim. Não é aquela ajuda se fosse específico. Agora reclamar pq o personagem virar uma bateria pra acheron kkkk como se os bonecos não fossem ser substituído no futuro. Welt é trap então ele ganhou uma versão 2.0 assim como bronya, clara, bailu. Os personagens sempre vao ser melhorados em outros. Se pegar huohuo e fuxuan QM cura mais na partida. Ou tinguyn e huohuo QM enche a ult mais rápido do aliado, isso q tinguyn é t4 antiga. Qnd faz dois caminhos um sempre é meia boca pra não desvalorizar o outro.
@@vitorjjgameplays5786 cade o povo reclamando q cinse nao tem cura no kit, ou kafka, loba, mas implica com ele nao ter cura kk
she does more with jiaoqiu
Yes, however this is VS Gepard who has lower toughness gauge compared to the usual bosses. Argenti, Death and the like
pela vs jiaoqiu in a team thats NOT acheron
It's bs situation all over again lmao
nice gameplay! can you try a more difficult stage so that we can see the difference?
Sure, I just didn't know what to use that had fireweakness and I didn't want to fight the same boss as last time. That'll probably be a couple videos down the line though because there are a few ideas in the previous video that had me kind of interested.
jiaoqiu guinaifen robin gallagher comp please
What buff in this moc? Is still break buff?
I don't remember what buff it was, but what I know is that it was previously in moc during banner robin where every time we hit 6 times we would get additional energy.
they did jiaoqiu so bad rip
Nah hes fine. He's pretty chill actually as a solo debuffer. In acheron comps 100% def shred reigns supreme until e2 when you run solo debuffer. And his stuff counts as dot like black swan now so I think hes chilling in his spotlight teams.
@@GachaKricis ye, people complained about him being jack of all trades but master of non which means he has multiple capabilities but doesn't excel onit (e.g debuffing n DoT) which kinda sucks
@@GachaKricisThe Ashen roast only count as DOT when you get him e2, i'm not pulling an e2 to have a better e0 Ruan Mei.😂
@@t0adiv3 made DoT into his base kit
@@sev559 OH OK, do we know the atk scaling ?
Jiaqiu pela acheron aventurine pure fiction on auto please.
jiaoqiu field so cheap now😢
Gallagher better, best character
Can definitely agree in these break teams. Just insane for a 4*
Lingsha 👋 Gallagher
WHAT? Firefly+JQ very stupid. Go Acheron+JQ LC Sampo
I don't understand how I'm attracting people who can't read 5 secs into a video.
He’s watching the video with his eyes closed