FMS CORSAIR 1700MM V3 with 8s POWER! By: RCINFORMER
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- Опубликовано: 3 ноя 2020
- The ALL New FMS 1700m F4U-4 Corsair V3.... This time with 8s POWER!
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Now that is much, much better. I would hope the factory would rectify the power problem without any addition to the price point . Now I am impressed. Great flying, thanks.
FMS should employ you to test and tweak their products before final release. This plane is ridiculous/unacceptable in the configuration they want to release it in, but absolutely brilliant after your adjustments
WOW Rich you have DEFINITELY given that plane what it needed. SOUNDS and fly's Great now Sir THANKYOU Rich and Steve another GREAT video
Rich..... 8S.... Now you talking....You can hear the "whistling death" tone resonating from that BIG Propeller now with the added power. Sweeeet. :-)
Looks a lot better on the 8S setup!
That's a great upgrade for this Corsair. Not too expensive if you have good 4s packs. Nice flying Rich. Awesome work on the camera Steve, I bet your arm was getting weary!! Hey, a giveaway, cool. AirHammer out!!
i see a RCInformer video in my subscription feed, i click as soon as i see it and it gets an automatic like from me, every time
Thanks Bro!
Boom! 8S is clearly the way to go with this model. Thanks for the video!
You nailed it RICH. She's a beast on 8s. Definitely want to see the gyro in there. FMS has a great plane here
Great work as always Rich, and congratulations on 20K, it’s videos like this that make that happen, truly informing!! Beautiful plane and now much faster, thanks for the work buddy👊🏼👊🏼👊🏼
Really woke this bird up, now I definitely want one. Thanks Rich!
Please use my link:) Thanks for your support!
Great review Rich and Steve !! The V3 looks great with 8's
Great idea,thanks for testing it!
That bird is moving now! Great video Rich!
That 'perked' it up ! :-) have a great week...
Love a Corsair that can do unlimited vertical! If the factory is receptive to update recommendations, ask them to up the pitch a bit. Would up the speed and extend more flight time. Thanks for testing 8S Rich.
That’s what I’m talking about....much much better! Hope the prop can hold up!
Fantastic work Rich, looks 😎. Keep well
beautiful landing
Thanks for all you do!
Now we're cooking with gas! I saw the other 2 vids and even with the motor swap, I wasn't too impressed with the power in this bird. But now, oh yeah, looks, sounds and goes way better. FMS need to make changes ASAP and release a V3 2.0 that's 8S capable.
Awesome stuff, Rich, you singlehandedly made want to get this bird when I had almost no interest in it before. Watching your vids is starting to cost me money. 😆
Great job Rich... that is the ticket.👍🏻✌🏻🖖🏻
V3.1, I'm interested now! Well done Sir.
Regards from Virginia
Makes perfect sense!! For 6s it should have been a lil over 400 kv to fly comfortably. My 1450mm P-51B with the 540kv flew the same as this plane does stock. It looks good but labors. I put that 540kv motor and zip tie mod on 5s and it really woke it up!! FMS is being just a lil too conservative with the power set up! Leave it to you to come up with the simple way to get better performance!! Love the sound and the way it flies!! I havent gotten a Corsair yet but this one may be the one!! Good job Rich!
Yep I agree totaly an 8S Plane. A Corsair has to have that power.
That’s defiantly the way to go 8S. Such a great plane👍🏻. I wonder of 2 x 4s 75c would fit. Great video Rich.
Nice! 8 cell is the way to go with a faster speed controller. Rich your flying skills are awesome, I would never operate in that wind
Thanks Rich!
Did they ever end up producing this plane in 8s ? ? If they did it in 8s ,I would buy it.
Subed...
Wonderful video.
I want this plane!
Thanks Craig!
Awesome job Rich.....now I have to spend another $250 because I don't have any 4s 5000's laying around or an ESC that will allow 8s 🙂.....anyhow great job helping everybody else out getting this baby where it needs to be 🤘
Standby, I just got word from the factory that a new prop is on its way to me for testing! It will probably have more pitch and be more powerful... I will have a full report as soon as it arrives!
@RCINFORMER around 2,310 RPMS more..
Sweet! on you first video I was going to suggest 8s and see how that does with a speedo change..
if your voltage sag is around 3.85v per cell under load for example, going from 6s to 8s you pick up 2,310 RPMS! About a 33% increase in rpms.
Total watts per pound goes up as well giving way better performance..
Thanks Rich for sharing i hope FMS takes your advice and makes this a 8 cell bird then i would consider buying one. Looks way more impressive with new prop and 8 cell set up why would they not. Sounds better to happy flying my friend.
FMS needs to redo the power package in this and advertise it accordingly.Was wanting one ,but not worth it to me as is,will get the TopFlite giant scale Corsair and spend the money on that and have a real Corsair.Thanks for this test Rich,you rock!
The TopFlite Corsair is $850, with NO servos, landing gear, No Engine, & No Nothing. it is a $2000 model when completed! This is $499 for everything except $30 receiver and $100 battery. No comparison.
@@RCINFORMERMine is near 5000 with fg 84 saito radial took me a year to complete setting and understand fly characteristics, there is no comparison indeed, but it's took me one year to save the money...
@@castlefranck3979 WOW! You can easily see that at $499 this is a nice model!
@@RCINFORMER no doubt about that all my fms jet never disappointed me at all,they all flew flawlessy over the years I still use them today as training and relaxing plane before flying my kero ones. Keep going your excellent job Rich I follow you from France since your fly review of f 18 starmax 👍👍👍👍👍
@@castlefranck3979 You remember the Starmax F-18:)
That's the power stock ones should come with
You need to take her up to about 200 ft or more and bring her back down full throttle in a steep dive and then you would get the sound out of it that everyone wants to hear. The Japanese called it the screaming death and we called it the Corsair cause of the disruption of the air as it flies due to its oversize propeller and unique wing design
Great job, and thanks for resolving the under power problem in a practical manner. Now if we could just get rid of the Pepto Bismol pilot??
Lol
So much better, good call on making this an 8s bird. Now I'm interested in buying one of these. They should just convert this to 8s from the factory.
Dave, I have sent this upgrade off to the factory! Please consider using my link to get it if you decide to get one:) Thanks Dave!
You got it brother, for sure!!!!!
Haha legend Rich your like a dog with a bone getting this Corsair up to spec 👍😉 efforts appreciated
Yep I said it afew times that 8s would be better for this size plane
What are your control throws for takeoff and landing flaps?
Are you flying in Cocoa? Runway looks great if so!
Did you have to upgrade motor for the 8s setup? I am having a hard time finding proper motor thanks!
Hi Rich. Question. On my FMS 120A ESC, it came with a little bulb type device with a short servo wire coming out. What is that used for? Also the two wires with “3” connectors, one being the throttle, but the other is ONE wire with 2 heads. Where would they go on a Spectrum 6 channel receiver or any receiver for that matter. This is for this Corsair. Thanks! 👍🏽
well, they have to sell the plane... upgrade potential is appreciated.
Excellent bro 💓💓💓💓💓💓
#mdriyasatali
Three bladed prop would probably go a little better.
I had sort of asked about that in our weekly RUclips live sessions...thanks for doing that, I think that's a much better solution than the 360kv motor. I don't need it to be a pylon racer but it sure needed something from the stock set up. Thanks again Rich!!
You should be able to use ANY 8s ESC on the stock motor and make this plane a Powerhouse! probably 100amp or higher will be safe!
How do you check the battery voltage when you have two of them strapped together? Do you have a Y harness connected to the balance connector? Or do you read them individually?
Individually.
where did you get that 120 amp esc for 8 cell setup? i have looked everywhere. thx
I put the link to it in the description below the video... its towards the top.
Rich , any thoughts on changing the pitch of the prop , did that on my 1700mm red tail Mustang made a difference on it .. very easy to do , it has a really grate vert climb just with that mod .
After discussing it with FMS yesterday, they have made a NEW prop & are sending me a new prop to test for the airplane:) I will have a video report for it as soon as it arrives:)
Hi Rich...question for you removing the cowl so you can access the ESC for swapping it out? I removed the three screws but that cowl will not budge. Has FMS started gluing it in place?
There's no way I can see to swap out the ESC from inside the fuse as even if you get the ESC out from under the floor tray the motor wires are not accessible. I have a HW 120A ESC and want to upgrade to 8S.
Thoughts?
There may be some residual or additional glue tacking it in place... its not suposed to be glued in:(
Do you have a set up/ build video ? I'm struggling to get the ESC to work.
Which ESE are you using? The one I used was this one:www.fmsmodel.com/product/predator-esc-120a-with-10a-ubec/23/
Nice test Rich! I'm curious...how do you feel about the prop hub? A few of us tested the FMS P-51 (1400) on 5s and 6s. All of us blew the hubs apart after several flights. I blew three of them apart...nuked one plane...shook the front end apart. If the hub and prop assembly is robust enough to 'handle the extra rpm's that's awesome.
This hub is pretty tough! It has an additional aluminum backplate to hold it all together!
Sweet! Thanks Rich!
What’s your thoughts on an AR7350 spectrum receiver, discontinued but new in store. Were they known to have issues or would you stay with the newer model receiver
I am not sure if it had any known issues.
Well Rich" that'sss what I'm talkin bout,you just sold a FMS Corsair!
Please get it thru my link:) Thanks for the support!
@@RCINFORMER I did buddy!
Question, What was the heat produced by the 120A ECS & the motor? Is there plenty of airflow to vent the heat out of the fuselage and the batteries?
Yes, lots of intake and exhaust holes!
Hey Rich what's the best receiver to use for the 1700mm corsair l have a Spectrum AR631 6 channel AS3X safe will that work
It should work...
I have 2 predator 120A ESC''s and neither one will initalize the throttle using the directions that came with the ESC. We get the correct number of beeps but then it starts beeping steadily and will not stop. No throttle at all. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
U need to plug the rev thrust plug into the rx too. Even if u don't intend to use it. Must be plugged in to get full function of the esc
I just got this upgrade, what are the other two leads coming out of the 120A speed controller? Ones throttle......
Not sure, but the yellow is reverse.
@@RCINFORMER yes indeed, thanks the other is a program lead.. can’t wait to try it out… looks like just what’s needed for this beautiful Corsair
Rich great video. How did you connect the 120 amp predator ESC to the receiver? It would be very helpful if you could give us a quick breakdown on how you connected all your leads from your new ESC. Thanks!
Thanks for watching-The 120 amp predator has a main lead to the ESC with 4 wires (it has a yellow one with a servo plug on off the side of the red/white/black throttle cable-this yellow one is for Reverse. The short cable is only a programming cable and is not used with the Rx. Aside from that you just connect up like normal. Hope that helps to explain🙂👍
@@RCINFORMER Many thanks Rich. Please keep the great content coming.
I was a bit wondering, on the official homepage of FMS, a pictures shows a motor of 360kV, while later in a table, the spec. says 300kV. well...what is in the box exactly ?
I am not an expert of the topics, so, I just have to buy a new controller and connect a 8s battery ?
(is the some size recomendation what could fit width*height*length ? )
Thanks
Well spotted on the website I will make a point of letting them know👍 the plane originally was released with the 300KV motor BUT they may have changed it to 360KV as i did give them a lot of feedback both from myself and guys commenting on our video’s etc. I know they have yet to upload the manual and spare parts to the official website so I will try to get some info for you-unless anyone Reading the comments has bought one recently and can confirm the motor size currently being supplied from factory? I did push for 360 KV and it is possible they may have decided to go with that as the air frame has matured but let me see what I can find out🙂 thanks for the question and support in the channel👍
What you think about doing the same mod to the fms P-51 1700mm? Make it an 8s as well
It should work fine
Rich, I got a post from you showing a propeller for the F4U-V3... has the propeller been up graded 12/01/2020
Yes it has! I will be testing it this week:)
Do you have any thoughts about putting the RimFire 1.20 450kv motor in as a 6S setup?
Not sure, but that kv may be to high.
@@RCINFORMER I'll be turning mine into the F2G Super Corsair. Callie at Callie Graphics is making me up a set of the decals for this. I'd like to stick with a 6S setup as that's the majority of batteries I have. But it does need more power. That's why i was wondering about the Rimfire 1.20.
If I use 2 admiral 4S 5000,mAh 14.8V, 50C or 60C . do I need to upgrade my ESC or can I fly using those batteries with stock ESC 80 Amp.
Yes, if you're gonna use 8s. On 6s, no.
How do you put it on high timing?
There should be an ESC programming guide in the mamual
I cannot remove the cowling...it is fixed with glue "or is it just dried color" ? what should I do, cannot make any works at the motor/ESC, thats bad
The cowling screws in ... there is probably just a little bit of residual glue tacking it in place...
@@RCINFORMER thanks for that, I will try it again next time
Bonjour j"ai une question svp ... j'ai vu dans une de vos vidéos que du plomb avait étè mis dans le nez de votre corsair ... ma question est la suivante....... combien ??? ...MERCI d'avance pour votre réponse ... Stéph de France...... Ps très bonnes vidéos continez ........ à bientôt........
I was thinking 8s on the 1st video. Much better. Im sure you know 300kv x 30v = 9,000 rpm.
300kv x 33.6 = 10,080
what would cause higher or lower timing? thanks
Higher timing will spin the motor faster:)
@@RCINFORMER and how about heat? more timing more heat to the esc, to the motor or both?
So far, no excessive heat
Is that with the new propeller?
Yes
Is it possible to swap the brushless electric motor to a gas engine
I would not recommend it. I'm not sure the foam airframe can handle the vibration of the engine
What is difference from v1 to v3 versions ?
Too many to list but the key ones would be better construction using fewer parts, proper hinges on control surfaces instead of foam hinges, massively improved landing gear, more powerful motor, The cockpit does not need to be removed to access the battery on the new one, The quality of the foam,paint, finish etc-there has been significant advances in technology between versions and the latest one incorporates all of the most recent advances in aircraft construction methods. This is just a very summarised list there is actually a significant number of changes between the three and it would take me all night to list every single one but this should give you A good idea of the improvements and the quality of them. Thanks for the question And your support🙂
Hi Rich great idea bud i have the 1700mm mustang with the 360kv upgrade do you think it would benefit the same as the corsair ?
The 360kv on the Mustang really improves it alot
Here is my video of it: ruclips.net/video/k7ZuNtvulJE/видео.html
So no need to upgrade the esc in your opinion bud ?
@@getoneup2585 I don't think I did, the prop it a little smaller on that model so the load & amp draw is a bit less:)
Cool that's good enough for me bud thanks for your help 👍
Rich, The problem is, WHERE CAN I GET THE 360 MOTOR!!!!! I have ordered one from FMS and its going on two weeks, now they say the shipper returned it, they are reshipping and could be two or more weeks. Where can I get the 360 shipped from within the USA?
Here: www.fmsmodel.com/product/predator-5060-kv360-brushless-outrunner-motor/1074/ this is within the USA
@@RCINFORMER Thank you Rich. I just ordered it (another one). Bob
If you can run 8s on the 300kv...would you be able to do the same on the 360kv?
Hi from down Under I have the same question would it perform even better with the 360kv motor and 8s???
That's an extra 400rpm ontop of the already improved 2300rpm. Think ur pushing the limits top far on the stock prop and frame
Hello can you please say why you didn't keep the 360kv motor and use 8s with it. Why did you go back to the 300kv motor? Isn't the 360kv motor more powerful than the 300kv motor?
Thank you also for the video.
360kv will probably be to much load and to much RPM. I may try it but the amp draw will probably be high.
Thank you for your reply
Hi there I'm hoping you are still going to try this with 8s and the 360 motor. Is that a possibility?
Yes please
But does it have more power?
Why not just put the correct 6s motor in it and keep it simple? The 4258-460Kv 14-Pole Brushless Motor from the 1500mm eflite P-51D 1.5m Mustang or a drop in FlightLine 5055-390Kv Brushless Motor
I did put the correct motor in it.... its the same size motor except its 60kv more...You can try all those ither motors if you want. The two I used are exactly the same motor & mount size, thus interchangeable... no modifications were needed. The FMS Corsair turns a BIG 4 blade prop... the 5055 may work, but the prop drive is a different size. The 4258 is probably too small.
Hey Rich,did you try the 360kv on 8s?
Not Yet!
I want to now❤
I've done it, it really is a biggg Difference😊
@rickythrower5892 Yep... big difference!
@@rickythrower5892 whit a 2 blade prop? Which size? Thx
Wind? What wind? Doesn’t bother rich.
Has anyone tried 8s on the FL 360 kv Corsair?
I also want to now. I order the 360kv voor 8s
When will the giveaway be??
Soon!
@@RCINFORMER okie dokie
this corsair or flightline corsair ?
This one is bigger & more scale 4 blade prop, better landing gear. Flightline is faster, 3 blades prop. Both are good!
Cheers thanks for the fast reply
"Me and Steve." I can't tell you how much I hate that ignorant, "me and ..." phrase and it seems to be ubiquitous.
damn batteries cost as much as the plane,,, not for me
Of course the 8s option is exactly that-optional, it’s perfectly capable and plenty fast enough on the stock set up with the new propeller :)
Hi Rich I'm thinking of buying this corsair and run it off 8s with the 360kv motor would I be able to use a 100amp esc ?
I found the 360kv motor to be too much amp draw on 8s .... 300kv with 8s seems to be best OR 360 on 6s...
@@RCINFORMER thanks bud I think I'll be ordering one and choosing the 8s set up , I fly scale but nice to know the power is there when I need it 👍
@paulmullen8316 thanks fir using my links to get one:)
Hey Rich …. I know this is an older video but I just installed this ESC in my Corsair …. I can not get it to recognize the throttle signal and it won’t connect to the the ESC programming box either … have you ever seen this issue?
Try it several times. What radio are you using?
@@RCINFORMER I’m using DX9 … I have tried 2 different receivers …
Plug ur rev thrust plug into a spare rx ch. It needs to be plugged in whether u want to use it or not. I had same issue