Sadly WB blocked some parts of my video and they'll be impossible to post it later, been trying for days, same for tomorrow's video. Hope you enjoy them nonetheless!
Devoe is one of my favorite examples on the cost of idealism, which if you don't know is the goal to achieve something that is almost impossible to reach, except he had the power to make it happen, and yes, the goal was very evil, but cost was as he gained more power, he became more villainous and cruel, even to the point of making his own wife watch him kill. He thought he was smarter than everyone, and he was, but eventually it was his own hubris that brought him down. (Yes I know this was extra and wasn't needed but I wanted to put it anyways)
great analysis! he's very distinct from the previous seasons' villains, in that respect. Thawne, Savitar, the premise of their conflict was one that revolved around Barry's destruction. even Zolomon, who was primarily motivated by his own addiction to speed, saw Barry as something of a rival that he needed to prove himself against. Devoe was the first main villain to be motivated by an ideology broader than just a vendetta. on top of being the first non-speedster and having one of the best identity reveals, there's just so much to love about the guy.
God, I forgot how fucking terrifying and powerful he was. Honestly the best and last fun villain in the series. It seemed like nothing could stop him, he was like an immovable wall.
It would have been interesting to see a Flash with the artificial speed force versus the Thinker. I like that the first artificial speed force increases the user's intelligence or process speed.
Yeah I didn't appreciate him when season 4 came out. But after the the overuse of Tom's Thawne and the villains of newer seasons *looks at insect man and the power rangers' escapee*, I feel like he is pretty alright.
He was one of the best villain to date.He became a god.They were very lucky to defeat him because he was unstoppable.Even basic thinker was when the season started,i loved how he played Barr from the beginning👌 I dare to say he could be a good superman villain too👌
Honestly if Barry had gotten superspeed thinking from the speed Force instead of the artificial Speed Force he would've outsmarted Devoe and be lots of steps ahead of every Big Bad he comes across ?
This might have been the most disturbing villain ever. I cannot think of anything more formidable and unimaginably horrific. Stuff of complete nightmares.
This was an Incredible Masterpiece Video for My Fourth Favorite Antagonist’s on The Flash. Neil Sandlers was Perfectly Casted to Bring This Comic Book Villain To Live Action.
I mean, they were entirely different characters. Devoe was the villain of the season and had had basicaly godlike powers, Gunn's version is just a side villain who's pretty smart. He serves his purpose in the story. I don't see what's ironic here.
Though I wouldn't rank DeVoe as high as Reverse-Flash, Zoom, Savitar and Godspeed are, I admit he had incredible powers. The way he used them with such versatility...especially in the ARGUS' intrusion scene. Also that : 2:01. That was just 👌👌
He outranks all of then As long as they don't travel back in time For one he will be able to deduce their next action, he is indestructible, can control their minds, and can manipulate their luck He could also totaly reduce their Gravity, making their speed useless, or he could increase the gravity to the point they can breathe as their ribs get pulverised and they fall to the ground
@Cameron Matlock Except that he can't do that anymore since speedsters think as fast as their speed... And, normally, speedsters are immune to ANY psychic attacks like DeVoe had. In other words, yes, DeVoe can beat a speedster but only if he catch them by surprise. Otherwise, he can't see them (Barry stood so fast that DeVoe thought he escaped while he was actually too fast for his eye to proceed with his speed) and can't use any mental attacks.
@@Zoom8408 well zoom also wanted to conquer and rule the earth except one difference the thinker wanted to help it while zoom wants it based on tyranny.
@@Zoom8408 My favorite crossover of all time is crisis on earth x, it has the best story, action, more heroes, and was the avengers movie of dc tv. Better then crisis on infinite earths.
@@christopherli3736 Zoom's original plan was to take the speed of the Flash to avoid death, and only then he decided to destroy the other universes. And then I think this motivation is better than Savitar's or Devoe
He foresaw her arrival, but didn't account Barry would hesitate when he was reminded of Ralph's loss. He said Flash was supposed to look behind his back and stop Banshee before attacking. That's ironically how he also loses in the end, he can't calculate other people's emotions.
My name is Clifford Devo and I am the smartest man alive. When the S.T.A.R labs Particral accelerator blow up the city it gave me increased knowledge. I work with my wife Marlize to end technology and bring the enlightened.
technically it did. perhaps it was why he never planned to take over Barry. (Though the fast regenerating factor would of made him practically impossible to beat if he did succeed. ) he probably knew Barry wouldn't make it possible to do it or over power his machines in trying to preserve tge body for him to pilot it himself instead
@Cameron Matlock I wouldn't say that. one time devoted trapped the flash in a box with no way to get out. Barry phased his molecules to turn invisible. devote released the prison and Barry escaped explaining his speed would trick his senses.
@Cameron Matlock it can also mean he anticipated Barry's hit. (most people are right dominant landing it to devoes left side so he gad to determine if barry was the norm or not. He shouldn't be faster by any means as his body wasn't enhanced. His thoughts are amplified but not his body. (the reason why he had to body hop) so his powers wouldn't eventually kill him. Technically using flash's body would of kept him Alive with the super regenerating factor of barry. Or he should of kept Barry locked up regardless if he could see him or not. (also the flash has gone faster than that moment so would that even be considered a feat as the chair caught the hit and not him? the machine can respond quicker.
@Cameron Matlock arrogance is a big part of the villains the flash has to deal with from professor zoom, Zoom, Savitar, cicada, The thinker, Bloodwork, etc
Clifford DeVoe : "Once upon in some remote corner of that universe, there was a star upon which clever beasts invented knowing." The Flash : You're quoting Nietzsche at me? Clifford DeVoe : You destroyed a satellite. Top marks, quick boy. You can destroy a thousand more and you will still march closer to the Enlightenment. The Flash : I forget what Nietzsche said about wiping minds. I must've skipped philosophy class... Clifford DeVoe : Did I teach you nothing this year? Has nothing pierced your thick cowl? Think of it. Or rather don't. You'll just end up hurting yourself, so let me explain. A world enlightened. Within a day, all soldiers will lay down their arms. Every nuclear weapon will be disarmed within six months. Poverty, famine, disease - eradicated. We will clean up the streets. People will put down their idiot phones and become curious again, and I will be there to teach them. *I* - not you - will save this godforsaken world. The Flash : No, you'll just control it. You want to take away free will. Clifford DeVoe : A pittance for humanity to pay to know peace. The Flash : But we won't know each other. Parents wouldn't remember their kids. Husbands won't remember their wives. Clifford DeVoe : Good. You hit upon precisely the point. Emotion is the father of all error. Chemicals in our brain that distract us, impede progress. And the most destructive and ridiculous imbalance of all is that thing you feebles call love. I learned this from experience, Mr. Allen. And soon... you will too.
Si pero eso haría un mundo infeliz y sistemático e insulso,de que sirve vivir si no puedes sentir nada y lo único que haces es trabajar para un mundo mejor que no disfrutaras por no poder sentir felicidad o emoción,eso sería una vida insulsa horrible y olvidable
It was pretty diabolical, he basically wanted to play God and re-shape the world in his image, into what he sees fit. He even starts quoting the Bible.
What about a Hero or Human with Super Super Super Powers who are The Thunder, Earth, Wind, Ice, Water, Fire, Electricity and have telephatic and telekinesis abilities. Or is so powerful you can destroy someone with a single thought. Thinker have been destroyed by me if I have all these powers 😁
Sadly WB blocked some parts of my video and they'll be impossible to post it later, been trying for days, same for tomorrow's video. Hope you enjoy them nonetheless!
Specifically the 4x22 scenes 😑
Maybe try to upload it reversed or different pitch? Maybe a watermark?
@@rafaelridolph This is a good video. Please Kilg%re Powers or Sage Power of The Gifted.
@@Commonsenseisntcommon34 tried those too, wasn't expecting DeVoe to be that important to WB, even muted the audio and they still blocked it
I wondering where that scene was, but you answered the question. Its still a great video though.
1. Mind Reading 4:49
2. Super Intelligence 1:04
3. Metahuman Power Stealing 5:37
4. Tech Manipulating 7:30
5. Prediction 7:52
6. Fate Manipulation 8:04
7. Mind Control / Manipulating 8:24
8. Size Manipulating 8:36
9. Barrier / Interdimensional Gateway Control 8:55 and 1:04 (the room)
10. Teleportation 9:05
11. Sound Manipulation 9:23 and 12:41
12. Animation of statues 10:36
13. Portal Creation 11:03
14. Gravity Control 11:59
15. Physically Indestructible 12:34 / 14:14
16. Power Removal 12:58
17. Shape Change / Transformation 13:13
18. Beam / WInd Blow 19:55
19. Near Immortality 21:32
Thanks
Now imagine if thinker has all the power the infinity stones also
He's flash's most powerful villain
#16 is technically true, but it's worth noting that Devoe psychically put a mental block in Caitlyn's head to keep KF out of commission.
@@Shortsguy8 now just imagine if DeVoe had speedster powers.
Devoe: *tries to control Joe's body.
Joe: "Did it before with an ape, not this time."
15:30 😂 he gave flash some time to enjoy in ice without much travelling
Devoe is one of my favorite examples on the cost of idealism, which if you don't know is the goal to achieve something that is almost impossible to reach, except he had the power to make it happen, and yes, the goal was very evil, but cost was as he gained more power, he became more villainous and cruel, even to the point of making his own wife watch him kill. He thought he was smarter than everyone, and he was, but eventually it was his own hubris that brought him down.
(Yes I know this was extra and wasn't needed but I wanted to put it anyways)
great analysis!
he's very distinct from the previous seasons' villains, in that respect. Thawne, Savitar, the premise of their conflict was one that revolved around Barry's destruction. even Zolomon, who was primarily motivated by his own addiction to speed, saw Barry as something of a rival that he needed to prove himself against.
Devoe was the first main villain to be motivated by an ideology broader than just a vendetta. on top of being the first non-speedster and having one of the best identity reveals, there's just so much to love about the guy.
God, I forgot how fucking terrifying and powerful he was. Honestly the best and last fun villain in the series. It seemed like nothing could stop him, he was like an immovable wall.
Bloodwork and Deathstorm were pretty good too.
True nothing could stop devoe. Devoe scares me the most
Bloodwork was the only one to really come close
@@amaze2173 not a chance
He was basically portrayed as how the Heroes series should have been. An excellent power escalation.
It would have been interesting to see a Flash with the artificial speed force versus the Thinker. I like that the first artificial speed force increases the user's intelligence or process speed.
Would’ve been awesome
Devoe was one of the best villians in the flash series
Definitely a great villain, but I think we need to see a reference to him in the final season of the flash
He was until he became Sylar from Heroes.
Too true. I thought he was boring af at first but I gotta rate him up there with Cold & Grodd.
Yeah I didn't appreciate him when season 4 came out.
But after the the overuse of Tom's Thawne and the villains of newer seasons *looks at insect man and the power rangers' escapee*, I feel like he is pretty alright.
Lol no
He was one of the best villain to date.He became a god.They were very lucky to defeat him because he was unstoppable.Even basic thinker was when the season started,i loved how he played Barr from the beginning👌
I dare to say he could be a good superman villain too👌
I'd love to see the Thinker against Superman. I want to see Clark goes up against super human intellectuals.
@@Trainer_Red..... I don’t think this thinker would really ever lose because he has luck based powers.
@@Trainer_Red..... Clark has gone up against intellectuals such as brainiac oh so often
Honestly if Barry had gotten superspeed thinking from the speed Force instead of the artificial Speed Force he would've outsmarted Devoe and be lots of steps ahead of every Big Bad he comes across ?
Yeah but luck based powers would mean the thinker wins
This might have been the most disturbing villain ever. I cannot think of anything more formidable and unimaginably horrific. Stuff of complete nightmares.
So true, dude had me on the edge of my dear every episode
He lost control
In the show you mean right?
Devoe was a straight badass
Devoe was so underrated he was so good
Devoe was cool in the first half but then that body swapping thing happened and it was pure nonsense and weird!
@@christopherli3736 yeah only that was the nonsense part tho
Man was the Flash version of Sylar from Heroes
I love in season 4 how different actors/actress got to play the bug bad of the season.
it would be awesome to have this Devoe back.... He was such an amazing actor..
This was an Incredible Masterpiece Video for My Fourth Favorite Antagonist’s on The Flash. Neil Sandlers was Perfectly Casted to Bring This Comic Book Villain To Live Action.
Quite ironic how Arrowverse Thinker did a lot more than Gunn's Thinker from The Suicide Squad.
Yeah Fr he was so bad ass in the flash
I mean, they were entirely different characters. Devoe was the villain of the season and had had basicaly godlike powers, Gunn's version is just a side villain who's pretty smart. He serves his purpose in the story. I don't see what's ironic here.
I'm sure glad the guard felt his loyalty to keep things secure was worth dying for.
Thinker is on my big four list of flash villains next to Reverse Flash, Zoom and Savatar.
Great character, Clifford Devoe
20:22 I love Joe my fav character of all time
Though I wouldn't rank DeVoe as high as Reverse-Flash, Zoom, Savitar and Godspeed are, I admit he had incredible powers. The way he used them with such versatility...especially in the ARGUS' intrusion scene.
Also that : 2:01. That was just 👌👌
Yeah the thinker story was weak and that body swapping thing was pure nonsense. He never does much
He outranks all of then
As long as they don't travel back in time
For one he will be able to deduce their next action, he is indestructible, can control their minds, and can manipulate their luck
He could also totaly reduce their Gravity, making their speed useless, or he could increase the gravity to the point they can breathe as their ribs get pulverised and they fall to the ground
But as far as the non-speedster villains go, I gotta admit, The Thinker is the best
@Cameron Matlock Except that he can't do that anymore since speedsters think as fast as their speed...
And, normally, speedsters are immune to ANY psychic attacks like DeVoe had. In other words, yes, DeVoe can beat a speedster but only if he catch them by surprise. Otherwise, he can't see them (Barry stood so fast that DeVoe thought he escaped while he was actually too fast for his eye to proceed with his speed) and can't use any mental attacks.
@@agm65maverickmissile52 gravity vs speedsters job done.
8:25 “Now I taught you what a brain aneurism feels like” 💀
Devoe the best villain after the reverse flash and zoom
Devoe is a weak villian and that body swapping thing was pure nonsense and weird.
@@christopherli3736 his motivation is better than Savitar's
@@Zoom8408 well zoom also wanted to conquer and rule the earth except one difference the thinker wanted to help it while zoom wants it based on tyranny.
@@Zoom8408 My favorite crossover of all time is crisis on earth x, it has the best story, action, more heroes, and was the avengers movie of dc tv. Better then crisis on infinite earths.
@@christopherli3736 Zoom's original plan was to take the speed of the Flash to avoid death, and only then he decided to destroy the other universes. And then I think this motivation is better than Savitar's or Devoe
Man, Devoe was the Flash version of Sylar from Heroes, also helps his actor was damn good on the role.
21:17 Looks like Devoe transferred his consciousness into his Hoverchair.
02:01 ah yes classic "person isnt visible in cell, we must open it then" moment
😂😂😂😂😂
He would’ve been way cooler if he was obsessed with technology, rather than hating it.
In the episode with Siren-X, he said that he "foresaw the arrival of the screaming Banshee". Personally I thought that was bull. But that's just me
I thought he said he didn't foresee it
He foresaw her arrival, but didn't account Barry would hesitate when he was reminded of Ralph's loss. He said Flash was supposed to look behind his back and stop Banshee before attacking.
That's ironically how he also loses in the end, he can't calculate other people's emotions.
This season was The Flash's turning point. I quit afterwards.
@Pro Token420 yeah, I remember watching this on tv every week. Good old days!
16:51 16:54 17:00 17:07 17:13 17:20 17:31 17:43
16:16 i love how his powers evolves
Because he thought of creative ways to use those powers the previous Meta's couldn't.
My name is Clifford Devo and I am the smartest man alive. When the S.T.A.R labs Particral accelerator blow up the city it gave me increased knowledge. I work with my wife Marlize to end technology and bring the enlightened.
Such an underrated villain
19:00 manipulation tecnology purple
DeVoe fue simplemente un magnífico villano
best villain. best season
Glad u made this
Y'all think Barry's speed thinking would of kept up with devoe super smarts?
Yes
technically it did. perhaps it was why he never planned to take over Barry. (Though the fast regenerating factor would of made him practically impossible to beat if he did succeed. ) he probably knew Barry wouldn't make it possible to do it or over power his machines in trying to preserve tge body for him to pilot it himself instead
@Cameron Matlock I wouldn't say that. one time devoted trapped the flash in a box with no way to get out. Barry phased his molecules to turn invisible. devote released the prison and Barry escaped explaining his speed would trick his senses.
@Cameron Matlock it can also mean he anticipated Barry's hit. (most people are right dominant landing it to devoes left side so he gad to determine if barry was the norm or not. He shouldn't be faster by any means as his body wasn't enhanced. His thoughts are amplified but not his body. (the reason why he had to body hop) so his powers wouldn't eventually kill him. Technically using flash's body would of kept him Alive with the super regenerating factor of barry. Or he should of kept Barry locked up regardless if he could see him or not. (also the flash has gone faster than that moment so would that even be considered a feat as the chair caught the hit and not him? the machine can respond quicker.
@Cameron Matlock arrogance is a big part of the villains the flash has to deal with from professor zoom, Zoom, Savitar, cicada, The thinker, Bloodwork, etc
Clifford DeVoe : "Once upon in some remote corner of that universe, there was a star upon which clever beasts invented knowing."
The Flash : You're quoting Nietzsche at me?
Clifford DeVoe : You destroyed a satellite. Top marks, quick boy. You can destroy a thousand more and you will still march closer to the Enlightenment.
The Flash : I forget what Nietzsche said about wiping minds. I must've skipped philosophy class...
Clifford DeVoe : Did I teach you nothing this year? Has nothing pierced your thick cowl? Think of it. Or rather don't. You'll just end up hurting yourself, so let me explain. A world enlightened. Within a day, all soldiers will lay down their arms. Every nuclear weapon will be disarmed within six months. Poverty, famine, disease - eradicated. We will clean up the streets. People will put down their idiot phones and become curious again, and I will be there to teach them. *I* - not you - will save this godforsaken world.
The Flash : No, you'll just control it. You want to take away free will.
Clifford DeVoe : A pittance for humanity to pay to know peace.
The Flash : But we won't know each other. Parents wouldn't remember their kids. Husbands won't remember their wives.
Clifford DeVoe : Good. You hit upon precisely the point. Emotion is the father of all error. Chemicals in our brain that distract us, impede progress. And the most destructive and ridiculous imbalance of all is that thing you feebles call love. I learned this from experience, Mr. Allen. And soon... you will too.
Si pero eso haría un mundo infeliz y sistemático e insulso,de que sirve vivir si no puedes sentir nada y lo único que haces es trabajar para un mundo mejor que no disfrutaras por no poder sentir felicidad o emoción,eso sería una vida insulsa horrible y olvidable
12:47 dude😨
11:01 the way how devoe took the fight so somewhere else😂
13:08 the exit👏👏👏
Everyone (but the small blond woman) did a really great job being him in different bodies.
The Thinker reminds me of Moebius of the New Gods a bit. The actor should play as him...
His gaming chair is far more that 399…
He is the annoying villain that you can't mess with..he smart and powerful( he still other Meta abilities by acquiring body)
Wow! Right?.
I love the parts devoe use his intelligent to beat team Flash
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Definitely great scenes and great villain
DeVoe is like the Damien Darhk of The Flash.
So he is like mini Brainiac?
Basically
Devoe would beat Brainac easily devoe paralysis alone would beat brainiac
The recap of the season devoe bullying the whole team flash and eating them for breakfast 😂😂
For the smartest guy.... His end goal was the stupidest ever
It was pretty diabolical, he basically wanted to play God and re-shape the world in his image, into what he sees fit. He even starts quoting the Bible.
@@Kriz10010 what's the point of being a god to monkeys?
He was Apocalypse of the flash.
I think the reason why ralf doesn't has all the powers it's because when devoe touch the chair he transfer each power and with his mind into it
All he was missing was plot armour
Did he get plasticman power?
18:08 bro that was the best fight and you skip it
Like I said in the pinned comment, I didn't skip it, WBTV blocked it and it could be shown.
@@rafaelridolph sorry 😓
@@dacaba no worries!
Season 1 - 3 was Diamond.
4 is Gold.
And others are then Crap.
This guy is some bulllarky. That and the walking zombie plague guy.
William defoe vs devoe
🤣
Nah but I was fr so pissed when the prisoners escape just to die and I almost broke the tv I was watching on
This is basically infinite tsukuyomi
Flash's most powerful villain but what about the powers from the metahumans he's stolen
This is DC version of Professor X..
Sir ye sbb videos kaha milega
Flash ke sare seasonss
Clifford Devoe/The Thinker.
barry looks best with a his beard moustache ngl
Thinker is hot in alien form
This series kind of died after this season
Unpopular opinion- Devou scared me more than zoom or savitar
Devoe scared me more than all flash villians
Devoe scared me more than anyone in existence
The world fastest man can't dodge anything
Like sonic vs eggman don’t you think
the birth of the evil flash
bro he IS the thinker
Best villan but the body swapping ruined it for me in that season
the first supervillain who is not a speedster
Devoe was a whole Freak. And not it a good way 😅
Man devoe was broken
What about a Hero or Human with Super Super Super Powers who are The Thunder, Earth, Wind, Ice, Water, Fire, Electricity and have telephatic and telekinesis abilities. Or is so powerful you can destroy someone with a single thought. Thinker have been destroyed by me if I have all these powers 😁
Do the White Martians powers from Supergirl
Devoe and thawne
Am I the only one who thinks Dominic power is the mind stone
You’re objectively wrong and yes you are the only one
It's not too far of an assumption to make
@@Lanesra62905 it s an absolutely ridiculous assumption considering it’s an entirely different franchise to the one that has the infinity stones
They should have had him say"I don't think so" at least once.. missed opportunity.
4:31 but can’t the flash think very fast?
Charles Xavier
MODOCK 2.0? 🤔
Brainiac?
Modok CW version
Actually Hector Hammond (aka that awful secondary villain from the Green Lantern movie) is DC's MODOK as he in the comics also has a big head.
The best villian of the serie before of Iris claro iris is the best villian she kill the protagonist to flash jajajaja
What stopped him from taking over vibe and frost besides plot.
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Flash is weird... Devoe uses a normal body to beat Flash, what a joke
Jordan Peterson
😆 standing around while their friends are sucked off. This is the equivalent of dragon ball. When character just wait till the opponents power up.
Yo me DeVoe the most boring villains