Should you buy an EV? A summary of the week. (the correct upload version!)
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- Опубликовано: 13 окт 2024
- Duh, the last one uploaded with 3 minutes missing.... again. Anyway...
After the North Sea incident, and then the Mercedes that burnt down a home in the USA, I though I’d conclude this one before I head off for a little break.
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I've heard that 95% of e vs are still on the road.The other 5% made it home .
'Is your car kept on the road overnight '..YES.... seems to be a big plus now.
HA HA HA HA HA ---- that made me spit my morning tea on to my keyboard ! lol.
Nah, that’s Landrovers. I should know, I’ve got one
😂😂😂👍
Tesla model Y will be the most sold carmodel on planet Earth in year 2023 and year 2024 😊😊
I saw on the TV a few weeks back, Do NOT charge your electric bike in the house ( then showed an electric bike on fire in a house) Yes the house went up in flames. The madness of green has truly showed it's true thickness. Insurance companies must be laughing their heads off. Hi, I'd like house insurance please, "Do you own an electric car, bike, or anything like that" Yes, "Well that'll be a billion quid" Oh Bugger!!!
I superyacht just burned due to an electric bike catching fire. Sadly, I think the owner and her dog perished in the fire.
There is a problem though. Most electric vehicles take a long time to charge and are rather expensive. While it might be more fire safe to charge it outside, it also likely to get stolen. There is a reason why you can't really own an EV if you don't own a home, hopefully with a garage. You can't exactly run an extension cord out the window and do it there.
@@JustaGuy_GamingThat garage AND the house will go up in flames, if your EV starts crisping .. sadly...
@@JustaGuy_Gamingand even IF we could run extension cords out to our on street parking, you'd have elderly people and probably people of ALL ages sueing the fuck out of you for causing them to trip over the wire. Fuck electric vehicles, they are not sustainable, safe, or even a realistic alternative, it's a gimmick which doesn't work in the real world.
Anyone who buys this EV crap needs a double brain transplant!
I know a guy here in the USA who purchased a Rivian pickup. Took a year to get it, has had it less than a year, and the battery failed. Lucky for him, it was still under warranty, so the Rivian replaced it. It was a $34,000.00 replacement cost. Sounds like something I would take a pass on. Two batteries for my Superduty diesel cost less than $400.00.
And EV lovers tell me batteries are getting cheaper, pull the other one.
@@badchefi Facts not welcome here my friend.
is it just me ?...but EVS come across to me as very effeminate and made for people who can't use basic tools ...lol
@@peterscotney1 If you have a problem with that peter, maybe you should talk to your shrink about it!🤪
Remember the old saying, "Different strokes for different folks." It's you money, buy what you want. I am just saying I am not an EV fan, but that's just me. They don't make one that can replace my Superduty and do what it does.
John Cadogan's key piece of advice.
"If you are near an EV fire, get UPWIND of it - the gases from it can poison and kill you".
Agree, all that toxic smoke & water pollution coming from that car ship , unqualified amount of damage to marine life etc.
@@mikebreen2890 I think the difference is, if there's a fire, where one single breath can instantly render you unconscious and/or kill you, or if you still got enough time to walk away, even badly coughing. Maybe in a battery fire there are other, even more toxic fumes than in a "normal" car fire.
@@mikebreen2890
HF gas is toxic and corrosive.
Normal car fires do not generate HF gas.
@@HomesNDronesan ICE car doesn’t generally have much lithium in it which instantly converts to a toxic gas. Does being in a cult make you gloss over that as well?
@@HomesNDrones
The Danish 'Beredskabsstyrelsen' (the government body that firefighters get their matching orders from) have said that firefighters in full smoke diver kit are only allowed to be in EV smoke for 15 minutes PER DAY!
And their kit is to be treated as if contaminated and cleaned as such.
No such guidelines exist for normal ICE cars. So get your head out of your cult hole.
When the motorcycle training and tests changed in the mid 2000s, I knew then that the goal was a slow creep towards making independent travel more and more difficult. The real aim is stopping everyone moving at all.
@@mikebreen2890 Good for you, enjoy it.
@@D-Bunker-zv1bj no it isn't...
@@D-Bunker-zv1bj "Oil is on the way out"???
Enjoy your seize up.
Also enjoy not having electricity (The insulation is petroleum based)
I could go on
@@g8ymw almost every single modcon is dependent on oil
@@Michael-hm8cs Indeed
I think I’ll get my order in now for the last diesel Hilux to roll off the line. That’ll do me!!! Keep up the great work Geoff 👍👍
I'm 63, and just about to take delivery of a new petrol car (had a diesel and loved it).
The problem is the ICE vehicles may be made so uneconomical to run by taxes, legislation etc, that we are doomed
Get fake plates , get them form an EV 🤣
@supercededman So start getting up close and personal with them and asking why they are doing that. Get the laws and taxes repealed and you won't have to deal with them.
@@supercededman
While this is quite right, just see what happens when there’s more and more electrics on the road, but I think we all know what will happen then!!! Anyway for any greenies out there I’ll stick with my old Hilux billowing black tar from the exhaust!! I might even pay £12.50 just to drive around London all day choking up the air as a protest!!!
I’m just waiting for the ambulance chasing lawyers to set up a “my electric car” compensation claim scheme…
I'm waiting for electric ambulances 😅
“Have you been missold an EV?”
😂 I have been saying for a long time that there will be some kind of EV buyback incentive when the government wakes up.
If you were stationed at Camp Lejeune and your electric car caught fire, you may be entitled to compensation.
gonna be awesome for us lawyers🤣🤣...seriously though...the lawyers that are going to be involved in this liability claim for the burning ship are going to make oodles of cash...
I have three 2002 V70's. In Ireland.
One for parts which has been a goldmine for keeping me on the road against a system that hates me for it.
Clearly, I won't be, or can't afford to buy an EV.
As someone with an older car does the cost of parts start to drop when the OEM monopoly expires?
😊
I too had a Volvo V70 that I bought for 900 quid. I ran it for a few years, then sold it for a grand!!
Also like you, I'm never likely to be in a position whereby I could afford an ev, and by the time I can it'd be so old and knackered that it'd be almost useless.
Can't go wrong with a volvo... Made to last, build like a tank, reliable as hell and can easy do 200-300k miles if looked after.
Eurotunnel and car ferry operators need to think long and hard about this potential and very serious issue (the fire extinguisher in the background was a nice touch!). 😊
On Wednesday (21) at 8.29pm crews were called to a large vehicle fire on the B1040 near Eltisley.
Crews from Cambridge, Gamlingay, Papworth, St Neots, Huntingdon, St Ives and the water carrier from Ramsey attended.
Crews arrived to find a car transporter on fire, with nine cars on the back of the lorry alight.
Wearing breathing apparatus, firefighters used hose feels and jets to extinguish the fire.
All crews returned to their stations by 1.20am.
The cause of the fire was accidental.
Very concerned about these on ships at all.
The eurotunnel already had 3 fires..they need to ban trucks carrying anything with a battery..or chemical, screw it bicycles only and no mobiles..it's the only way to be safe lol.
@@dontpanic80 Yet millions of EVs are transported around the world on ships.
I think EVs should be banned from tunnels longer than 20m, and multi-storey car parks, due to the risk of an explosive fire.
Similarly, if we are all using EVs, as Sunak requires, there should be minimum 5m clearance between marked spaces. The fire protection area can be cross-hatched to denote "no parking".
I wonder if insurance companies will stop insuring your home if your EV was parked in your garage or insurance costs will rise. Interesting problem for the future if more EV fires continue.
They'll likely send the cost of home insurance into the statosphere for all of us - because we should live in tiny cells & only come out to serve the Ruling Class.
I can guarantee it
Or like almost every other thing just deny your claims. No matter how obvious the claim most companies love to do their best to deny it if anything happens. All state got into a lot of trouble few years ago for denying claims on homes in California after a wild fire, despite all the homes having fire insurance and all that.
We can only hope…!
Policy might need to cover neighbours homes and cars too 😂
Brilliant.
Loved the subtle message with the fire extinguser in the background Haha
(Clarkson tried to warn everyone. 'The Hamster' had a car burning a day later with a fireman in permanent attendance') !
That electric car that Richard Hammond crashed and caught fire. Burned for 3 days!
@@sahhull this is true, I watched the interview with hammond just the other day =)
Geoff should look up the founder of Greenpeace. He is almost spot on about the climate scare, and I think also on the EV's. Not a word about the ship from Germany that burned last year, not the one burning now, not the hazards of home charging and possibly dodgy batteries from contractors, and nothing about loads on roads and infrastructure in the Legacy media in my country. Just sickening.
Patrick More is one of the founders but left , ruclips.net/video/UFHX526NPbE/видео.html
The Canadian Patrick Moore, a real scientist.
@@MrLeadb1 ...Read his book...Fake, Invisible Catastrophes and Threats of Doom ...it's absolutely brilliant...he point out all the Garbage they are trying to scare us with....🧐
@@outsidethebox2037 Thank you.
Also no mention of the fire on a boat in New Jersey at the start of July 2023. Same problem as this fire as well.
Unfortunately, more than half the people watching your or his videos won’t know what a Dutch Oven is, or why calling that burning box of EV, by that name is so flipping hilarious. I am Dutch descent, so I should take offense, but I keep chuckling every time I think of that. He is spot on, so are you.
This whole thing is SO INSANE you h a v e to laugh, or you will go insane!
Look up British slang for Dutch oven.
@@davidatkinson2167 for those that don’t know, enjoy the laugh when to learn what it means.
@@davidatkinson2167 don’t need to, mom’s British dad’s Dutch, I so get it, that’s why calling that ship the Dutch Oven is so hilarious.
I'm going to keep driving my old Rover. It's manufacturing carbon footprint is 2 previous owners and 22 years in the past. It was made in this country and hasn't had to travel half way round the world to get here.
John’s channel is brilliant, whatever he says you can take it to the bank, John uses facts and physics which you can’t argue with. Fellow Aussie 🇦🇺
Channel name plz
I've noticed many battery powered vehicle evangelist becoming very unhinged at all the negative publicity about e.v.'s. Many of them say this is just a small price to pay to save the planet. Yes this may turn into another mental health crisis soon.
yep, what about the environmental impact of the car's manufacture, especially the battery? hmm .....
about the same mentality that think wind generators killing off all our birds of prey and bats is a small price to pay to save the planet.
Yep and they completely ignore the environment that’s wrecked getting the materials needed just for the batteries without taking into consideration manufacturing and transportation to the point of sale
I just do not see how these death traps are better for anyone let alone the planet
And the rabid ev fans refuse to see it
Interesting that youtube is censoring replies to this comment
Always the way with fanboys
Well said Geoff...just to add...THEY (The Hierarchy Exploiting You) won't discuss the excess deaths so their definitely not going to about the EV scandal...!!!
Like the way you parked next to a fire extinguisher Geoff . Nice one, can't be too careful!
amazed so few people commented about this!
The genius of all fire extinguishers becoming red rather than the far more sensible colour coding that we used to have.
BTW the "Paint Company" was Cuprinol and it was first used in relation to wood preservatives. Also Cuprinol studiously avoided any mention of product performance on their sodding tins!
@@COIcultist Wasn't that actually Ronseal?
@@eonic11 Probably
Yes you most certainly 100% extinguished the hype surrounding EVs--and you did so without "Charging "-- what a guy you are !
Your comment about 'Fully Charged' made me go and check and sure enough there was a thumb nail on their latest video showing the burning ship, so I watched a bit of it and very quickly they claimed the ship had 25 EV's and they clearly claim it's conspiracy theorists that are saying it's an EV that caught fire, they kept saying it's not confirmed. They also tagged on the Greece fires saying the same conspiracy theorists say they were arson.
I'd love nothing more that a Geoff vs Fully Charged debate, that would be the best TV ever!
Enjoy your break Geoff :)
Even if you showed them that drone footage that recently captured some of the arsonists actually doing it, they'd still deny it. Like it was a moon landing hoax. I think fully charged are the conspiracy theorists, at this point.
Those EVangelists completely miss the point, as John Cadigan identifies clearly. The fact is that an uncontrollable fire is raging on that ship because of the presence of EV’s. How many or whether they started the fire is irrelevant. The relevance is those EV’s have created a hell fire that cannot be extinguished
Spot on as usual Geoff. At this stage, I think that the people who haven't realised that they've been duped, are never going to 🙄 Have a great break, dude!
You'd be better of buying an old on and restoring it nut and bolt, last longer!
It's easier to fool a man than it is to convince him he has been fooled
@@GeoffBuysCars Enjoy a much deserved break Chap.
Your Kids and Wife deserve your full attention.
(Are you off to find DJ Audits keyring in somewhere we cannot mention) ?
@@mikebreen2890 better than being duped into getting into debt buying an ev by all the ev share holders and paid presentation videos on RUclips
metannica1
And drivers of ICE vehicles have not and are not being duped ?
Half the folkes on this site think burning liquid hydrocarbons is both sustainable and responsible
My gut feeling is that the car industry is in deep shit. I don't reckon we'll be driving by 2030...
That is the government /WEF plan
Absolutely correct. Maybe that’s why the energy companies are allowed to make such obscene profits. Making hay whilst the sun shines so to speak
Perhaps Toyota might be? Did I hear correctly they are resisting EV production to a degree…or should I say phasing out ice vehicles?
Let's all hope we won't be driving, but I fear humans will still be killing other humans with vehicles in 2030...
@@Measuretwicelad and VW and Renault are cutting right back on EV production, people are simply not buying them.
My husband is a police officer, he is horrified that they have not been trained or provided a protocol on what they should do if they need to attend an EV fire! So he is telling all of his staff to stand down, not to attend and just keep the public away - they will be leaving it to the fire dept until they are fully trained - it is not worth the life of him or his men!
Tell your hubby to look for the direction the smoke is being blown and run the opposite way.
And once he gets there look out for the odd burglar.
@@CrushwokeryNo need to do that, the police only look for criminals on social media using the wrong pronouns.
What training are police given in vehicle fires today? Don't they begin with a risk assesment and quickly determine that it's too dangerous and to wait for trained fire personnel? I'm pretty sure that's it.
I remember a case where a guy was drowning in a shallow pond, about ankle deep as it was reported. That's exactly what the officer did, person drowned.
Well he'll be horrified forever because there isn't anything you can do to stop a LiFePO 4 battery fire. Like phosphorous, they create their own fuel and oxygen when burning so they have to burn out to stop. There is thus zero training as there isn't anything that can be done. Also containment is basically impossible due to the immense heat from the fire.
Absolutely, Safety First. Two firefighters in Australia can now no longer work (I assume permanently) due to the effects of Cobalt poisoning as you may already know if you saw John Cadogan (CA-DO-GAN)‘S recent YT video.
I feel really bad for they as I also lost my job in 2012 due to a horrific workplace accident. I know what these guys and their families are now going through.
You are a different person than you were before the accident. You never get to be yourself again. The trauma is lifelong-horrific.
Why wouldn’t the police leave it to the fire department! Or while your husband is dealing with the fire are the fire department arresting people 🤦♂️ Absolute BS 😆😆
When I started my electrical engineering course at a tech college in 1972 the first thing the lecturer demonstrated was to short out a 12volt car battery with a length on 10mm cable - the cable instantly melted and the PVC insulation burst into flames. Don't try this at home.
when I was just starting in my trade I was disconnecting a battery in a truck I accidentally dropped the spanner it blew the terminal off the battery and cut the 1/2inch spanner in half. there was huge shower of sparks and I nearly shit myself. I was lucky not to be injured until my boss saw what I'd done.
Proof that a 12v battery holds enough energy to start a fire. All you need is a source of fuel like petrol and boom 💥
John Cadogan is an auto engineer and well-respected journalist.
.
Hes probably the authoritative source for auto news in this country.
Bovine excrement. He is a potty mouth for low-information viewers.
Ha, you beat me too it!
Yeah, John is a cool smart man. So is Geoff.
These guys tell it like it is. We need more like these two.
@@martinlang9615 John "Bullshitter" Cadogan is a charlatan. A wanker.
💯👍🏻😊
@@badchefi lol. JC's extensive experience and qualifications. Yeah, right, numpty.
"Get out your car, get on the bus". Recently watched some scary clips of buses burning. One in Paris, went up so quickly, with such intensity, it was horrifying!
Meanwhile, more clips in China, bus companies going bust because they've had to take 80% of their fleet off the road and pay to store them. Reason given "The batteries are out of warranty" and they can't afford to replace them. 100s and hundreds of electric buses just sitting there.
Imagine if it was a car ferry full of all the EVs they want us all to drive. For example the Newcastle to Amsterdam ferry.
Just a matter of time I'm afraid
I live in hull and go over to the Netherlands once or twice a year on the ferry, this scares the shit out of me..
@@leecromer3289 yeah also a long over night trip. Think even few EVs going on fire would cause them to abandon ship.
7.2 million EV were sold last year, and I estimate 3 million of those were shipped around the world on car carriers. How many fires have there been, and how many were there, not including EVs?
@@jeremyradford5103The other 4.2 million are sitting in Chinese fields.😊 Ahem, hilarity aside, it's not so much the amount of other vehicle carrying ship fires, its the absolute ferocity of EV battery fires which is a problem..
Great video Jeff , definitely one for sharing,and yes we have beeen hoodwinked, gaslighted, blatantly lied to
Continually groomed,and fed on a diet of fear and compromising for the planet,im sick to the back teeth,of it all.
Funny I haven’t seen anything about the burning ship on the BBC.
Maybe it is just warm for the bbc. Nothing to see here
Yeah, you'r right... 🤷🏼♀️
@@fredfred2363 I did find it on the bbc website actually, the '25 ev' bit was buried in the final line and that was the only mention of electric cars...
Nothing to see here move along!..........They're too busy reporting on 'real' news like MGBGT+- 'pride' marches 🙄
John Cadogan's monologue on effing evs is actually a blank-verse poem that will sit alongside the works of Henry Lawson and Banjo Patterson in the Australian literary canon.
I watched Johns video yesterday , hit the nail on the head. Not that i have and desire to go to France but if i did it certainly wouldnt be on the Chunnel. A fire mid channel would be a literal hell....!!!! Hopefully this is the start of enlightenment in all this EV madness.
Wasn't the Mont Blanc tunnel fire caused by a truck carrying margerine and having a small brake fire? Imagine EV battery fire and the fumes, i suppose the heat would get you, the fumes would get the comunities at either end of the tunnel.
may be buy one for November 5th to get the bonfire started.
Lol.. That'll be the 5th, 6th and 7th!
@@Cloppa2000 I didn't say anything about stopping it, mind.
If in 2030 you decide to purchase a new car & the ev is a better product that is what you will buy, the best product doesn't have to be forced on you. They didn't have to ban cassette tapes when cd's arrived
Still got the cassette in my 1994 car which is still on the road.
@@ggee7391and , if you wished, it still could be after 2030
EVs are being forced upon the world for their fake eco benefits. It’s the now usual game of governments doing what the billionaires demand; impoverish the masses and allow the greedy few enjoy as much energy and power as they can imagine
To me the media being very quiet about the ship fire to me is a big brother cartel of silence,They are not reporting this main news story because they have been told not to ,They gave more air time on a singers death than this story ( No disrespect to that person )
Over 60 years ago I worked for a shipping company on exports and a manifest was produced for each ship prior to sailing. This itemised everything that was on the vessel as cargo.
The message about just how much damage these EVs can cause and the disadvantages just isn't getting out there, I recently told someone I'd not seen for a while that I'd got a new car, straight away he asked is it electric? I asked where have you been living under a stone? He looked at me with a blank expression.
Imagine if the ship fire was a car ferry with a thousand passengers on board. Catastrophic
I'm surprised that I haven't seen any mention of this ship fire on Australian TV news.
Just wait and see what happens when one of these car carriers catches fire in port and the smoke poisons a whole city .
Well it happened the other day in Newark New Jersey.2 fire fighters died tragically.Reason for fire unknown and still being investigated.Percentage of cars.Old scrap petrol diesel bound for West Africa 100% EVs 0%....Old Geoff choses to completely ignore that one and earlier similar accidents, because it doesn't fit his narrative.
@@johnmcconville6055 Liar. No one said that petrol cars dont catch on fire. No one at all. You are completely missing the point. And stop lying.
I'm pretty sure ISIS are watching EVs with interest.
Extremely difficult to ignite a diesel tank, though. Diesel has to be at high pressure before it becomes very flammable, i.e., when it's compressed in the pistons.
@@hughjasse3375 Except you don't need to ignite it, just leave the engine running
It would be interesting to see if there is a correlation between people duped by covid and people duped into buying an electric car.
that's a good one 🤣
I have some family,I just won't deal with anymore.
They still believe the narrative
I would say low iq and tendency to follow the current trends. So called npc's.
I think we would find interesting analogy!
Ha. Very interesting. 🤔
Without doubt there is.
Governments around the world should start considering to phase out the EV.
Tesla model Y will be the most sold carmodel on planet Earth in year 2023 and year 2024 😊😊
They won’t as their masters The Illuminate (who formed the UN to do their dirty work) have only just started.
100% EV adoption is a politicians unachievable pipe dream.
It's going to be a great next 7 to 12 years watching them find some very long grass in which to kick large metallic object decisions.
@@mikebreen2890 Time will tell, time will tell. Like I say, it's gonna be a great few years entertainment. One thing's for sure, I won't be in one.
@@mikebreen2890Why should anyone be forced to "get with it" ? I have nothing against EV's but they are certainly not everywhere. You see one every ten or twenty cars. Just like any new model traditionally. The problem here is choice. Or lack there of. The other elephant in the room is if it were not for legislation would EV's be being bought at high prices by many at all ? Probably not. We should be given the choice of petrol, diesel, hybrid, electric or hydrogen. Instead we have bizarre zealots preaching as if they are recruiting for a new religion. Odd
Love the fire extinguisher in the background
I chose that spot especially, haha
Brilliant. Never spotted
I know you did brilliant move 😂😂
Excellent product placement , I did wonder if it had been photoshopped in :-)
Shelsley Walsh paddock! Very safe place 👌❣
Last time I checked the BBC weren't covering the Fremantle Highway story.
Just think of a channel tunnel EV fire. That could have serious ramifications if it were to close a tunnel for a long time (which it would) I have emailed them with my concerns as we travel over in our motorhome (after turning off the gas) ((a person checks this by asking you to light the hob!!))
That has already happened (not a battery fire) at least once. It did cause a lot of difficulties, with a reduced service using a large section of the other tunnel in both directions. I know there are two crossovers under the sea (a UK one, and a French one), and a couple more at each end. Both running tunnels are bi-directional, so if (or when) one of the sections is closed off, they can run a reduced service on the opposite one. They are basically isolated from each other, with the third tunnel, which is a service tunnel, between them.
I think if there is a car fire en route, the last thing they would is to stop the train inside the tunnel. In the short term, it would largely be contained within the carriage in which it is being carried.
Oh, dear Geoff, Pity you didn't wait before mouthing off
After the fire on the car cargo ship off the Dutch coast, the media hastily identified an electric car as the cause. Now it turns out - that this is not true.
Even though the cause of the fire is still unknown, the EV theory no longer holds up after the freighter was inspected. The lower four of the twelve decks are essentially undamaged, and about 1,000 cars, including the 498 electric ones, are in good condition. This is according to the chief of salvage company Royal Boskalis Westminster NV, Peter Berdowski.
According to the head of the salvage company, the four uppermost decks, on which there were no electric cars, are so damaged that it is hard to walk on them and that the vehicles there (again, no EVs!) are literally fused to the ground. The affected carmakers are now investigating how their vehicles can be moved.
The ‘Fremantle Highway’ is currently docked in Eemshaven in the Netherlands. Soon, the heavy fuel oil will be pumped out of the ship to prevent leakage and environmental pollution. The ‘Fremantle Highway’ can remain in the port until 14 October. Then it will have to be towed to another location - whether for repair or scrapping is not yet known.
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A year ago I bought a second hand electric car. The first month I had big problems with range, but then I started bringing a portable diesel generator with me on a trailer always. This solution works perfectly. If I'm out fishing, for example, I let the generator charge the car battery the entire time I'm down at the lake, and then when I get back to the car with my fish, I have enough battery power to be able to drive home without problems. Very practical!
Sounds ridiculous ( carrying a diesel engine around with you to keep your EV running ) “ are you American. ? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@Rongturn777 It's a fine solution, I think. At least it has cured my range anxiety 😊
Exactly any the worry is as more get adopted how many are charged outside, Because you can already see houses burnt down due to EV fires in garages let alone in unit complex which most have underground parking which is a disaster waiting to happen with tower collapse due to structural failure. But John also brought up the point you need to know when the fire stairs/exits are in an emergency just like the aeroplane.
It's only a matter of time before this happens to a hotel underground carpark or a car ferry or the channel tunnel... IT WILL HAPPEN.. the real question is whether authorities will have the guts to be pro-active and do what is needed to prevent this inevitable outcome, or wait and pick up the pieces.. i think we all know the likely path they will take.... 😡😡
Yep
In this UK city.
For a while, we have had signs at all the multistory and underground car parks.
Due to the fire risk. Sorry no EVs.
@@sahhullwhich city is this?
i think all of this is done by design. EVs get labelled dangerous and will be ban after you got rid off your ICE car. So now you will have to walk (You own nothing and will be happy)
@@leecromer3289I’ll guess, Kingston Upon Hull.
I watch allJohn Cadogen Auto Expert AU videos. Of Last 3/4 years. I too read all the contents. This is the turning point. We hate the depreciation insane charging if driving 300 odd mile each wayloop. And incendiary risk safety. Car house home ….. Will lithium batteries go , pause on leccy cars, get another safer batt tech ??? ; and go again in another half or full decade ?????? We must PAUSE
i've recently discovered him but i love his approach and style.
@@GeoffBuysCars straight up Aussie truth. Engineering. Bogan and over priced bashing ( Bogan = Chav ); A lot of wit. Just good videos. Carry on watching them !!!!!
I saw Aussie johns video last night regarding this ev fire I was quite horrified and very mindful of not parking near a ev
Hi Gregg, just to update you on the Fremantle fire, i would appreciate this being pinned. Whilst I agree with ev's being hard to put out, the salvage company have now reported finding all 498 ev's on the lower 4 decks intact as deck 5 was empty and the fire did not spread. Source is Peter Berdowski, CEO of its parent company to the salvage Boskalis
Well done, Geoff. I think you've been quite instrumental in raising awareness here. I have arranged for a Tesla power bank at home (for energy security) and I'd already arranged to have it installed in an old pigsty, some 12 metres from the house - for this very reason! As ever, the insurers will drive this through the market.
I previously worked as a Tesla "Brand Ambassador" delivering new cars and showing the owners the functions before signing them over. As a long time car enthusiast who has worked in the trade in different capacities and driven many, many cars, I have this to say. Teslas assembled in Holland were badly put together with massive panel gaps and unfastened bolts and nuts. Charging was a nightmare as I had to often travel in the opposite direction to get charged and spend time in places I'd rather not have; like supermarket car parks or motorway services.
Teslas have in my opinion two good things. Vivid acceleration, (but who needs to get from 0 to 60 in 5 secs?) and good storage space. They are wooden to drive and the centre control touch screen is a massive distraction, much more so than a mobile phone. The interiors feel and looks plastic. If you run out of juice or get a flat you have to be trailored away.
I see some smart Americans are ditching the batteries and motors and replacing them with V8s
In comparison - there were a total of 55 reported explosions in the offshore oil and gas industry in the United States from 2007 to 2020
Had a EV for 3 years and charge most of the range off home solar - best thing we ever did. Got another EV coming in November ☀️⚡️👍🏻
Madness can't carry on forever' but i was worried for a bit' running the world on windmills sunshine and batteries is absolutely crazy 😂😂😂
The madness will just get worse unfortunately.
@@mikebreen2890- 60-80% of the electricity to power your ev comes from.... (drum roll) burning so called fossil fuels! Not unicorn farts as you mistakenly thought.
Brilliant, FULL Video and commentary cheers Geoff
Oops. Looks like the fire on the Fremantle Highway was NOT caused by an EV. Yes, let me repeat this for Geoff's benefit because facts seem to fly past him,
NOT CAUSED BY AN EV.
It also seems that all EV's onboard remain intact.
So Geoff, would you like to respond to this devastating news from the salvors of the ship?
I hear you mate. Enjoy your break but dont give up the fight.
I have an EV....love it..buy one...I know change is difficult for you all..I think it's the exhaust fumes affecting your noggins
In the RC world, we have been advising sand for runaway lithium-ion ("Li-Po", LFP pouch cells, Etc, battery fires... (basically it just limits thermal / flame-front spread - the fire still burns under the sand but less stuff in the vicinity follows suit. - catching fire) )
Fire companys will have to use a special fire proof plow type vehicle to clear the cars around a burning ev. Imagine parking lot or city blocks lined with ev's. It will look like that ping pong ball mousetrap demo for a nuclear reaction😮
You have a point there. We are fortunate that there is so little uptake of these monstrosities at the moment. Expect Armageddon if we are all forced into EV ownership.
very worrying situation( good content Geoff, ive emailed you ) another major concern if/when an ev takes fire on the forecourt of a petrol/ service station, it doesnt even bare thinkin about the catastrophic shitstorm that could/ would ensue
Love your channel, mate
Great content as usual
Yeah. The batteries are like the space shuttle boosters: you're going into orbit once lit!
I think "A ship burning to the ground" is the best English expression!
Always listen to John Cadogan , the man is brilliant and tells it like it is !!!
Hey Geoff
I keep getting EV ads on your channel 😂😅
Sort it son ⚠️
I'll see if
"Stop sending me ads like this" works !
My Neighbour has just got rid of their battery-driven Tesla and explained the main issue is the range, and that really, it's only good for local runs.
What about the shipping of these aftermarket batteries?
Fantastic video as always. Another item of concern you can add to your list is the fact that car companies are now stating in the car user manuals not to go near the electric car or the charger when plugged in on charge if you’ve a pacemaker device or alike as the electric magnet field it creates can and has already done so, set them off! Real good for your health then!! 🤦🏻♂️ keep the great content coming.
😂😂😂 I’d say you can’t make this shit up, but you literally are making this shit up 😂😂😂
@@jamesdryan unfortunately not making this up! I would suggest you see yourself - look online at page 118 on the Toyota BZ4X user manual and highlighted is what I said above, never say something if you can’t back it up with facts and a source… crazy days!!
You only have to look at california policy to encourage EV take up, then the owners were told last year that they had to restrict when they could charge because of electricity shortages.
Remember that fire in the Liverpool carpark that took out about 1000 cars a few years ago ? It was Petrol that caused it .
It was 1,400 cars, and the car park had to be demolished afterwards. Just shows the damage ICE vehicle fires can do 😊
I am in Australia and when I see someone driving an ev I see an Idiot
@@ShadowBannedagainThat is what the ev driver thinks about someone driving a petrol,or diesel.
@@terencereeder9830I'm sure they do as they are stupid.
When an EV passes me on the road, I mutter ' guinea pig ' .
@@lynjames6223 when one passes me I think, vaccinated.
They will pay The Penalty.@@lynjames6223
I love the way you have positioned yourself so the extinguisher is in the background…..LOL 😂
I think there is potentially a good opportunity for a spoof version of the Peugeot 405 adverts from the 80's. You could instead make it about being surrounded by EV's in the future 😉😁
Have a great time away dude 🙏
Didn't Jasper Carrott do that years ago
@@paulie-Gualtieri. No, he did a fake 106 advert. We certainly weren't having EV problems back then 😁🙏
@@larryjimbob
I recall a 405 ad where he lit a cigarette and threw a match out the window
@@paulie-Gualtieri. It was still clearly not about EV's 😁
was about to post link to Johns vid.
The most interesting part is the Cobolt poisoning...truly scary!!
back on the day cobalt was used to colour blue poison bottles.
Not just Mercedes and VW - look at the problems GM and Rivian have been having in the US, and all those stockpiled EVs in China.
The Chevy volt was also an early, loss making calamity, that had several fire issues, and just didn't sell well anyway.
That Dutch Oven will sink first, and the lithium iron batteries will still be burning! 🤣😂
@geoffbuyscars so hows the video coming along for the 92k Kia & Hyundai cars that need to be parked outside cause of the risk of fire on the OIL pump???? Cant wait for it!!! But wait, can i hear all those people saying "i wouldn't park and EV outside my house casue they catch fire" all now trying to work out an excuse on why this doesn't matter but EVs do?
How about some help? It's the anti scientific way:
1) Select the required conclusion
2) Only select supporting evidence
3) Reject contradicting evidence
4) Declare pre selected conclusion undeniably "proven"
I loved your final words regarding where this is going, Geoff!
OPERATION WIPEOUT
Surely now it's time to be asking questions about these cars on passenger ferries, tunnels and multistorey carparks etc etc etc
Rowan Atkinson had a brilliant speech about all this a while back.
As an Engineer, the other Elephant in the room is the vast NUMBER of individual cells which make up a typical car battery. Every single one of those cells is a reason for it to go wrong at some point. They use so many cells to obtain the (lethal) high voltage DC supply....Fuck that....🤔😳😳😮😏🇬🇧
I wouldn't mind so much if i could afford to go out and spend £30k+ on a new EV with all the warranties etc but in the future I'll be one of the many people relying on the "very used" market of 10+ plus year old EV's that are well past their warranties and are basically in the "drive and re-charge at your own risk" category, I'm not looking forward to it all..
Unless there's a revolution, you, like me, will end up using public transport and self driving ' Johnny cabs '
I doubt you'll get a chance to buy a 10 + year old uv let alone charge one.
If nothing else, when they rip out our perfectly good gas boilers evs will keep us warm.
Then you clearly don’t understand what’s happening here. These things are utterly pointless, do not do what the manufacturers claim, the minerals in the batteries are responsible for destroying lives, but most seriously, they are bloody DANGEROUS!
They don't want us to have cars. Any cars.
You seem to be of the opinion that there is an actual ban coming..You will be able to drive whatever car you want, probably until you are to old to drive.
Thank you Geoff for an honest up front opinion 👍🏻 God bless .
If this was an oil tanker burning in the ocean, the green lot would be all over this, but its not so they aren't.
Hi Geoff really enjoyed your take on the loss In value in electric cars at the moment. It’s clear to see they are tanking which has got me looking at the used market. I’ve considered an Kona EV it appears to be one of the better miles per charge Evs for around 20k used on low miles. With the loss If value in mind what would you say to me as a current diesel driver spending on average £2,500 a year on fuel plus the odd mechanical repair and service being a 2011 BMW. Over the course of 3 years in the EV I could be looking to save £7500 on fuel. With the ability to charge for free at work and Cheaply at home. Do you think the lose in value is now worth it? Thanks!
These people are like those people in the time when the first car was made, but they were so angry at technology that they wanted to continue riding horses and donkeys, where they tried in every way to stop the evolution of transportation. Funny people 😄
I'm glad you're reporting on the ship fire, the BBC isn't.
So no EVs were damaged and didn't start the fire 500 Evs on lower deck are fine but I don't suppose there will be a rush of RUclips videos unblaming EVs
Oh there will. I’ll make one.
Why is no one telling us who’s funding Just Stop Oil???
Think his name is Dale Vince - saw him on Talk TV with Mike Graham.
Seems a right tw@t! - his only interest is all the money he's making from all the so called 'enviro friendly' stuff he is involved in......
It certainly isn't government which subsidises oil and profits from it
Let's get some context here. This is of course a tragic event, but what Geoff doesn't mention is that Cars are dangerous. Feel free to do your own research, but each year more than 1,350,000 people die globally from road traffic crashes - so an awful event like this pales into insignificance in terms of likelihood of death and injury due to motor vehicles. Of course, exploration, refinement and transport of oil has its dangers too. In the UK alone there are over 35,000 fires of vehicles (not due to fires started deliberately). From what I've researched (AutoInsuranceEZ) the most at risk of catching fire are hybrids, then petrol/diesel, and the least likely are electric cars - by a significant amount. It is, of course true, that EV fires are far far more difficult to put out, and clearly much needs to be done to look at this. Enjoy your RUclips break Geoff - I should probably do the same !!!
I have a Mercedes E280 sport edition 2008 and A Harley FAt Boy S 2016 run on petro;l as God Intended it.
i have a soft spot for harleys.
@@GeoffBuysCars My first one and this model is the best
Just noticed. Fully charged are also saying, as of 1 day ago , were saying only 25 cars in the Dutch oven
Never heard so much BS and scare mongering in my life in these comments! Some of these comments are hilarious! Seriously I’ve owned an EV for over 3 years and over 70k miles with zero issues, I’m also a firefighter and call complete BS on this so called epidemic of EVs bursting into flames 😆😆
Good for you, but if you are unlucky and have a fire then see how much damage the intense heat can do.
The fire extinguisher in the background, priceless😂😂😂.
Geoff, we've had Lithium ion batteries for years in drills/screwdrivers, phones, cameras, laptops, torches, vapes, drones etc. Many (if not all) made in China. How safe are these? All charged in the home. If i buy one, usually off Amazon it is posted to me but if i try and post one at the local post office i am not allowed, double standards here. Maybe the subject for a future video? Enjoy your break.
And there we have it! - Investigation has found that this fire was NOT started by an EV. How embarrassing this must be 😂
Have nice break Geoff 👍