Is money down on a car deal a SCAM? How dealers turn your cash into PROFIT!

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  • Most Car dealers want you to put money down when financing is involved. Is that a scam? It could be. Here's what to look for when you are putting money down on your next car purchase.
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  • @fredkuhn165
    @fredkuhn165 5 лет назад +1137

    Too bad dealers can’t figure out that they could sell more cars and spend less on advertising if they were honest

    • @kawa1755
      @kawa1755 5 лет назад +34

      Its not about selling more cars its about profit. The sad thing is people line up to get ripped off. Every dealership is gonna fuck you there is no way around except by not participating in it. Its funny people line up to get screwed over.

    • @christopherrosas2738
      @christopherrosas2738 5 лет назад +20

      Not all dealerships are out to screw you, but you have to educate yourself so you don't get reeled in...... There's nothing wrong with walking away from a deal...... If it's not going to work for you, you have every right and responsibility to walk away from a deal...... There's no rule saying you even have to put money down on a vehicle...... I've actually done it where I've flipped the rebates to act as my down payment..... No money out of pocket and I've walked away with a vehicle...... Of course if a dealership sees you aren't paying attention, they may set out to screw you in the end because they see they can..... That's why on my latest vehicle purchase I paid attention to down payment, monthly payment, interest rate and term...... Talked myself into a payment that works for me and didn't put down any more than I could afford and now I'm actually a bit ahead of my payment schedule because when I could afford to pay more on the vehicle, I did

    • @88thebluedemon
      @88thebluedemon 5 лет назад +15

      I can't wait for the day where everyone sells cars at the same price from warehouses and no negotiating.
      And if you don't wanna pay that price at that point, you can just go fuck yourself 😍

    • @christopherrosas2738
      @christopherrosas2738 5 лет назад +4

      @Asniel Figueroa you would be correct....... There's no rule saying you can't walk away from a vehicle if the dealership isn't working with you or if they're being dishonest....... You should be the one controlling the deal instead of them

    • @coopsnz1
      @coopsnz1 5 лет назад +9

      Dealership owners mostly small business owners have huge debt , so they have to make a bigger profit when Democrats tax and regulate them more , happens in Australia with the left democratic socialist

  • @vcash1112
    @vcash1112 5 лет назад +1784

    The Manufacturer should sell straight to the consumer and skip the dealer ship.......🥊

    • @youtuber6609
      @youtuber6609 5 лет назад +46

      @ vcash holdfastThats what Tesla is trying to do, but law ban car makers from selling cars as stated by @Roscor Dogg

    • @lsimpson8307
      @lsimpson8307 5 лет назад +60

      Roscoe Dogg i have to wonder why that is, because the dealership union sent a lobby to the state legislature? It only serves to benefit the dealership industry and not the consumers, it disenfranchises them. Maybe they donate to political campaigns. There is a reason i bought my iphone from an Apple store and not my carrier store.

    • @youtuber6609
      @youtuber6609 5 лет назад +43

      @ray bee I think you missed the point or just skipped my comment altogether, Tesla Inc has been doing this already... they are their own manufacture and they sell cars directly to the average joe. If a car has a recall or needs warranty work done... you bring your car to Tesla Inc and they'll do it for you.

    • @youtuber6609
      @youtuber6609 5 лет назад +4

      ​@Gus Goose a1 comment

    • @AntilleanConfederation
      @AntilleanConfederation 5 лет назад +29

      vcash holdfast got to get rid of the fucking lobby first. Money in politics is 100% legal bribes.

  • @youtubetrollking1880
    @youtubetrollking1880 5 лет назад +1255

    Good to see Biff from back to the future turned over a new leaf and is helping folks out.

    • @youtubetrollking1880
      @youtubetrollking1880 5 лет назад +7

      @@ChevyDude good info. I'm looking to buy a new ranger when its out early next year. I feel I've done pretty well in the past when buying vehicles, but always trying to learn new tips. Thanks.

    • @taelorwatson9822
      @taelorwatson9822 5 лет назад +5

      What do you recommend for a wax? I've been using mothers I can't think of the type right now

    • @endocry
      @endocry 5 лет назад +18

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    • @youtubetrollking1880
      @youtubetrollking1880 5 лет назад +12

      @@endocry lol. That was a good pull. The obscure reference gets bonus points.

    • @Hammerdownproductions
      @Hammerdownproductions 5 лет назад +6

      Chevy Dude good come back and reference.

  • @unproven13
    @unproven13 5 лет назад +109

    NEVER TELL THEM YOU HAVE MONEY TO PUT DOWN. Settle on a price first then tell them you have money to put down

    • @douglaswegener6463
      @douglaswegener6463 Год назад +9

      Asking for money down is illegal. 15 USC 1605 knowledge is power

    • @theeconsciousman
      @theeconsciousman Год назад +1

      do you need to sign anything before saying you have money to put down, could they take that offer off the table

    • @RyansReaper
      @RyansReaper Год назад +1

      @@theeconsciousman you wait till the final itemized bill is handed over for you to review and if you agree say that and say you have money to put down.

    • @alexandreazevedo8228
      @alexandreazevedo8228 Год назад

      I can 500 or 1000 put down any car price

    • @jasminejagger3292
      @jasminejagger3292 Месяц назад +1

      If putting $ down dosen’t change the interest rate save the $ to use for payments

  • @davemount2607
    @davemount2607 3 года назад +129

    After watching a bunch of your videos I’m about to the point of just walking everywhere as opposed to going through the whole car buying ordeal new or used

    • @SegaDisneyUniverse
      @SegaDisneyUniverse 3 года назад +13

      For real, so many scams, so little money.

    • @Andy-im3kj
      @Andy-im3kj 2 года назад +7

      Exactly. It's like the only thing we can really own is our own bodies and lives.

    • @BlackTrunksPodcast
      @BlackTrunksPodcast Год назад +1

      @@Andy-im3kj 👁

  • @GaryFowler2906
    @GaryFowler2906 5 лет назад +344

    The worst car accidents happen on the showroom floor

    • @James-wx9bf
      @James-wx9bf 5 лет назад +4

      Jim Cooke Dave Ramsey!

    • @TOMVUTHEPIMP
      @TOMVUTHEPIMP 5 лет назад +12

      @@James-wx9bf Dave Ramsey is a fraud.

    • @anthonyd.jacksonjr.2139
      @anthonyd.jacksonjr.2139 5 лет назад +1

      @@TOMVUTHEPIMP Explain.

    • @TOMVUTHEPIMP
      @TOMVUTHEPIMP 5 лет назад +14

      @@anthonyd.jacksonjr.2139 He makes money in the fastlane by telling you to make money by saving pennies. Total racket. Like Suze Orman.

    • @anthonyd.jacksonjr.2139
      @anthonyd.jacksonjr.2139 5 лет назад +2

      @@TOMVUTHEPIMP Interesting...

  • @michaelhorner4011
    @michaelhorner4011 5 лет назад +48

    I once walked into a car dealership at the ripe age of 21. Looking for a used car....looked up the kelly blue book before going to look at the car. I knew they got the car for less than kelly blue book. I had them marked so low on the deal. Played with them for about 30 minutes. Was not liking the price and walked away. As I walked away, he wanted to know if I wanted a job at the dealership. I said nope I already have a job and it is not a car salesman. The buyer holds the power and the object is only worth what the buyer is willing to pay for it. Happy car shopping everyone!

  • @brianschott8162
    @brianschott8162 4 года назад +27

    Key advice. Never negotiate on the final payment, focus on all of the prices. When they come at you with final payment value, ask to see ALL of the numbers in the math. It helps if you are fully willing to walk away at anything regarding the price that makes you uncomfortable.

  • @kfstreich4787
    @kfstreich4787 5 лет назад +46

    When I had to negotiate as soon as the salesman acted like it was difficult I would tell them I'll give them time to figure it out and come back in 30 minutes, it flips the control from them to you.

  • @TeXasDadBod
    @TeXasDadBod 5 лет назад +131

    This makes me never want to buy a car again lol

    • @amb3cog
      @amb3cog 5 лет назад +6

      Why is that? He never actually said anything. At ALL!

    • @amb3cog
      @amb3cog 5 лет назад +6

      @@fredberfal1246 Yea I see your point. He is like a bitch! Out for your money, and can't be trusted. Basically worthless. However, at least a bitch actually has something to offer. Even if it's short lived. Lol

    • @1redrubberball
      @1redrubberball 4 года назад

      I try to do it as seldom as possible. That's a reason I am more conscientious with car/truck maintenance.

    • @sarahann530
      @sarahann530 4 года назад

      @@amb3cog Do you work for free ?

  • @ugladden
    @ugladden 5 лет назад +56

    Never discuss a trade in or down payment until u have the price locked in

    • @CjMk4GLi
      @CjMk4GLi 5 лет назад

      How would you get the price locked in? They always wanna know what downpayment you have or what trade in. Well at least to the ones I’ve gone to

    • @raydavies6236
      @raydavies6236 5 лет назад +21

      @@CjMk4GLi
      That has nothing to do with the price, that is how you are going to pay off that set price.
      Of course they want to know that first, so they can try to rip you off 3 different ways.

    • @arizona71189
      @arizona71189 3 года назад

      Yep!

    • @Fume1337
      @Fume1337 3 года назад

      Ray Davies 😂😂😂😂💀💀💀

    • @tommak6516
      @tommak6516 3 года назад

      Tell them you are going to finance, then at the last minute grab the contract and tear it to shreds and pay cash. They will appreciate your candor.

  • @drwisdom1
    @drwisdom1 4 года назад +75

    Mr. Dude is being quite informative here but he doesn't outright state his conclusions - that the vehicle sales business employs shady practices and leasing is a scam.

    • @drwisdom1
      @drwisdom1 3 года назад +3

      @Mr RandomTV9000 I have only discovered one reason that makes leasing a good deal. My friend's wife wrecked her car twice. When the lease was up he was more than happy to give it back.

  • @cecho9367
    @cecho9367 3 года назад +21

    I’ve been buying and leasing cars for years. I do a lot of research and calculations before even going to the dealer. I never put any money down. Not even taxes. And after making my mistakes along the way of which there were many, I’ve gotten to the point where I’m happy with the deals I get and don’t need to spend endless hours at the stealership

    • @germandelariva3754
      @germandelariva3754 Год назад +1

      How do you do that every single dealer always asks for a DP they’re money hungry

  • @AlanSmitheeman
    @AlanSmitheeman 5 лет назад +63

    Good grief! Purchasing a vehicle is so perilous I'll just use a skate board.

    • @CoIorful
      @CoIorful 5 лет назад +1

      AlanSmitheeman lol

    • @Jp-yd2ke
      @Jp-yd2ke 4 года назад +1

      Lol I got my mountain and road bike... I'm good

    • @eliziocantio1111
      @eliziocantio1111 3 года назад +1

      For if only motorcycles could keep you dry

    • @SegaDisneyUniverse
      @SegaDisneyUniverse 3 года назад +2

      @@eliziocantio1111 And carry more than 2 bags full of groceries, lol.

    • @SegaDisneyUniverse
      @SegaDisneyUniverse 3 года назад +2

      For the price of an average new car, I could just invest that money into creating a device that just teleports me to my desired locations!😂

  • @carycoller3140
    @carycoller3140 5 лет назад +19

    Your video is proof of why I don't ever trust car salesman. Every time they open their mouths they're lying.

  • @tonywong8134
    @tonywong8134 5 лет назад +13

    My dealer actually limited me to $3000 down payment. It was bs, but the interest rate was .9% so I relented. Over 3 years of my loan I'll pay about $400 in interest, but I'll pay off the car in a year.

  • @FrenchieFries
    @FrenchieFries 5 лет назад +8

    And that’s why Tesla is so nice. You order what you want online... no other bs don’t have to deal with a dealership. Wish other companies started doing this but it wouldn’t be good for the car dealership industry

    • @FrenchieFries
      @FrenchieFries 5 лет назад

      ohhh shit chevy dude with the tesla roast!!

  • @johngriffith7315
    @johngriffith7315 4 года назад +28

    Keep the dealer finance department out of the transaction. I finance with my own credit union. Saves a lot of hassles.

    • @luismendoza7739
      @luismendoza7739 3 года назад +2

      You can get more rebate if you go through their financing

    • @luismendoza7739
      @luismendoza7739 3 года назад +1

      Just make sure to have a good credit score so you can get a nice interest rate

    • @bcar1ify
      @bcar1ify 3 года назад +5

      Just finance through them to get the rebates, then within a week refinance with your own. Easy.

    • @Martell276
      @Martell276 2 года назад

      What if the dealership's finance department gives you 0% interest financing?

  • @normogaard5223
    @normogaard5223 5 лет назад +69

    Best way to play their game is go in with YOUR out the door price and if they won't do it then move to another of the 5 billion dealers.
    Make sure you do your homework on the value of the cars you want for the year you want. And never play their skiing price always always cut it and NEVER COME UP WITH A PRICE First Ask THEM WHAT THEY ARE ASKING..
    And if they won't give you a price first move to another of the 5 billion dealers. Remember you have the $$$ SO YOU HAVE ALL THE POWER!

  • @bodystomp5302
    @bodystomp5302 4 года назад +45

    The last time I bought a car it went shockingly smooth. I called up, gave them the stock number of the car I was interested in, offered 15% less than MSRP on a Honda Civic, not really expecting them to agree, but they did. I was at the dealership when they unlocked the door the following morning. No problems, no games. The whole process took 90 minutes, and this was from a local dealer who many people do not like.

    • @Andy-im3kj
      @Andy-im3kj 2 года назад +10

      Count yourself lucky because alot of dealerships love to play games and toy with people's time and lives.

    • @dadreiantennyson4489
      @dadreiantennyson4489 2 года назад +1

      @@Andy-im3kj need a tissue?

    • @Andy-im3kj
      @Andy-im3kj 2 года назад +16

      @@dadreiantennyson4489 Your mom needs one.

    • @CashLit
      @CashLit 2 года назад +1

      What about taxes? let’s say the vehicle is $30,000 MSRP and you offer 15% less and taxes is 10%. Are you adding the 10% to the 30,000 or the subtracted amount, which would be $25,500?

    • @jmilz08
      @jmilz08 Год назад

      Every squirrel finds a nut one day !! Congrats for real though lol

  • @indycustommade3568
    @indycustommade3568 5 лет назад +26

    They wonder why the are in the top 3 of the most hated people in business.

  • @billyfranco1374
    @billyfranco1374 4 года назад +5

    Simple recommendation, buy the car cash or finance through YOUR bank. Never ever ever finance through the dealership. They will scam you and will have a bank help them scam you for their cut.

  • @screamingsavage001
    @screamingsavage001 3 года назад

    Thank you for all the info you have GIVING me!!! Keep it it up man.

  • @clerissonmesquita
    @clerissonmesquita 2 года назад +1

    Thank you so much for your invaluable information, highly appreciate it, keep it up the outstanding job, have a great day.

  • @Deckdefender
    @Deckdefender 5 лет назад +61

    Short of government taxes and health care buying cars the next biggest scam you'll ever have in your life

    • @fubarexress6359
      @fubarexress6359 5 лет назад +6

      That's why I've never financed besides one time and I'll never do it again. Paying cash and not buying new and being smart witn what brands you chose to drive. If you do buy from a dealer do your research! There are honest dealerships and even honest salesmen! (Gasp)

    • @2584024
      @2584024 5 лет назад +7

      Can't take money to the grave. If you can afford it safely, why not spend a little extra to finance a nicer car that you're gonna use every day?

    • @jamesgarrison6430
      @jamesgarrison6430 5 лет назад +1

      Marriage

    • @dedalliance1
      @dedalliance1 5 лет назад +1

      Buying cars is not a scam lol. Everything is upfront as long as you do your research lol.

    • @FootballRob2010
      @FootballRob2010 5 лет назад +3

      You forgot student loans

  • @diegogonzalez9086
    @diegogonzalez9086 4 года назад +54

    I listened to the whole video and understood nothing.☹
    I was left the same before starting the video. Buying a car can get really tricky

    • @mohnjayer
      @mohnjayer 4 года назад +6

      Diego González It’s not tricky at all. Buy used cars with cash. Financed new cars and ESPECIALLY leasing are both total ripoffs. This guy wants you to believe buying a car is complicated so he can sell you a car as an “ethical” car salesman. He’s not ethical, he wants you to make huge monthly payments to him just like every other salesman.
      Cash. Used cars. Nice and simple.

    • @sarahann530
      @sarahann530 4 года назад +2

      @Amanda G Or in your case give good head and have guys drive you around

    • @donaldspring8408
      @donaldspring8408 3 года назад

      @@mohnjayer Yeah it’s awesome seeing how much that car you own depreciates by the day and a ton of fun dealing with the mounting mechanical issues over time. Leasing is far superior, efficient and just flat out the smarter move. By far.

  • @RobjJohnson-sk1wg
    @RobjJohnson-sk1wg 5 лет назад +1

    You are big help we need more people like you out here to let people know about the car game thanks

  • @shahbazkhanjs
    @shahbazkhanjs 5 лет назад

    Highly appreciated your videos lighting up on inside tricks

  • @mrklimczyk
    @mrklimczyk 5 лет назад +168

    Always talk price not payment!

    • @brandonmiller9423
      @brandonmiller9423 5 лет назад +2

      Johnathan Gonzalez it’s the 21st century, he most likely knows this but would rather not be bothered to put the comma in. People literally abbreviate everything when typing... plus no one likes a grammar nazi

    • @ericmorton6893
      @ericmorton6893 5 лет назад +9

      Johnathan Gonzalez, you forgot the period at the end of your sentence.

    • @AlanJWatkins
      @AlanJWatkins 5 лет назад

      @@brandonmiller9423 Two opposable thumbs up for grammar Nazis!

    • @David-or8oh
      @David-or8oh 5 лет назад +5

      Awesome if I can get you this car at 10,000 out the door with a 500 payment for 72 months are you ready to move forward? Since price is more important for you and your family is that correct sir?

    • @brainwashingdetergent4128
      @brainwashingdetergent4128 5 лет назад +1

      @@David-or8oh thats exactly how it works. I just picked up a new buick didnt get the rebate scam deal. With no rebates i am paying 8k less than if I got the rebates and payed piles of intrest for the prevelage of receiving a rebate 😂😂😂

  • @beaulong3270
    @beaulong3270 4 года назад +8

    90% of the time. Depends on the lender and dealer check you get depending on someone’s credit, income, vehicle and a few other things. Sometimes it takes the down payment to make any money at all and most of the time it’s just gravy on top.

  • @fx4den540
    @fx4den540 5 лет назад

    Enjoy your vids bud... keep up the priceless info !!!

  • @johnq8135
    @johnq8135 4 года назад

    Thanks Chevy dude. Nice video keep them coming

  • @chadpugh1490
    @chadpugh1490 5 лет назад +4

    I bought a new car about a month ago. I put 5K down. I started watching this video, dreading to hear Dude say that "Its a waste" or "don't do it". I've watched it all the way through and I can say that I think it was a good idea to put that much down. I bought a Nissan but THX CHEVY DUDE.

  • @GamingJGBdbz
    @GamingJGBdbz 4 года назад +10

    It really comes down to the down payment. Your going to want to put 30%, or more down. Never want an APR rate over 15%, because your going to be paying $5,000 or more in interest. Depending on the final price of the car.

    • @GoogleAccount00
      @GoogleAccount00 2 года назад

      Thanks for sharing this information.

    • @Alexi7666
      @Alexi7666 2 года назад

      Nobody is charging 15% these days. Unless it's a scumbag outfit like JD Byrider.

    • @imso1stplace
      @imso1stplace 2 года назад +1

      Not necessarily, at least 15% down payment should suffice

    • @Alexi7666
      @Alexi7666 2 года назад

      @@imso1stplace : 15% interest, not 15% downpayment.

    • @imso1stplace
      @imso1stplace Год назад +1

      @@Alexi7666 no, he said verbatim “it really comes down to the down payment, your going to want to put 30% or more” when in reality anything more than a 15% on down payment is just extra leeway on your monthly but 15% down payment is more than enough.

  • @joesilvestre5817
    @joesilvestre5817 4 года назад

    hi chevy dude, I watched your video about being prepared b4 buying a car. thanks for all the advice, my mom & I are now well prepared when we go buy the Durango she wants!! thanks!!

  • @jc209714
    @jc209714 3 года назад

    Great video thanks for explaining in good detail.

  • @graphguy
    @graphguy 5 лет назад +9

    Never put a down on something that will depreciate the minute you take the keys by more than your down payment.

    • @Alexi7666
      @Alexi7666 2 года назад +1

      If depreciation is a concern, maybe you shouldn't be buying a car. Buy what you can afford, not what will impress people.

  • @derekcomingo2197
    @derekcomingo2197 5 лет назад +25

    Why it's important to negotiate each step. And not give up all the info up front

    • @edubb2491
      @edubb2491 5 лет назад

      Aww..i scrolled across another wise man!

  • @whitewaterkayaker
    @whitewaterkayaker 4 года назад +2

    I negotiated with multiple dealers over the phone/internet. Narrowed it down to two dealers. One said we'd beat any advertised price in an email. Went to another dealer, negotiated down 3.5k to where we were about to sign the deal. I pull out that email and get them to take off another 10%, then told them I wanted to lease. I put zero down on the lease. I got a 2019 Impreza Sport with Eyesight and H/K sound system for $275/mo

  • @samuelramirez4774
    @samuelramirez4774 5 лет назад +9

    Car dealerships are so shady. That old school “strong” sales style needs to change. The car industry as a whole needs to innovate. It’s not the 1950s anymore. If dealerships don’t innovate they’re gonna be out of business soon enough. (like some taxi companies *cough* Uber)

  • @bobby5951
    @bobby5951 5 лет назад +27

    This is why I wait on lease returns and buy them used. There isnt as much to worry about. Plus I used to be a new car salesman and the managers were trying to get me to do shady things to make more profit. Needless to say i quit selling and became a mechanic in the fleet industry six months later.

    • @waltbullet1287
      @waltbullet1287 5 лет назад +5

      So damn sad a new car to buy should be enjoyable! And a great experience! Now you have to were body armor! They pulverize you! I'd. Probably like to buy again but I still sick of my last Esperiance

    • @kevinaalberts9251
      @kevinaalberts9251 5 лет назад +5

      Your a mechanic now,and still ripping people off !!! Nice touch!

    • @bobby5951
      @bobby5951 5 лет назад +1

      @@kevinaalberts9251 I work as a mechanic in the fleet industry you dumb ass. If you new about fleet then you would feel stupid right now. You should really think before you speak to keep from sounding ignorant.

    • @raydavies6236
      @raydavies6236 5 лет назад +2

      @@waltbullet1287
      Car dealers are the only stores that treat paying customers like crap. Well, airlines too.

  • @tvang464
    @tvang464 5 лет назад +14

    Don't worry about the monthly payment number. If you did your math(many calculators online) before going, you already know this number and buying in a price point within your comfort zone. Hustle your final price first. Then give them the down payment. If they can get you a better rate than your bank, take it. Yes, this gives them some more profit. It's ok. It allows them to give you a better final price because they want to make profit somewhere and you're taking some profit away from them by getting a lower price on the vehicle. Sign papers, drive home.

  • @Carl_Jr
    @Carl_Jr 5 лет назад +5

    I'm sure Mike will cover this in another video, but 2 other reasons may be 1.) The purchaser is upside-down in his/her trade. Sometimes that payoff can put the LTV higher than the bank will buy. If the dealership can't sell the loan, they can't sell the car. 2.) The buyer's Debt-To-Income ratio is high, and the down payment will drop the monthly payment (by dropping the amount financed) below the magical 42%.
    Actually, a third reason can be because the car dealership is in the car too deep and needs to unload it. If they haven't balanced the inventory then the amount they own the car for may be keeping them from making any money at the price they have to drop the car to, in order to get the buyer financed. Maybe more complicated than non-car dealers would understand but I've been in a few situations were getting even just $200 from the buyer as a down payment = $200 in profit, and that's it. People with bad credit are the ones that get the dealership into that position, more than not.

  • @slowpoke4547
    @slowpoke4547 4 года назад

    Thanks dude. Great video!!

  • @whoswho156
    @whoswho156 5 лет назад +5

    I'm more lost now than before i watched this that being said I agree with Alan Smith on being pre-approved prior to shopping for a car know your financial limits and hold fast if you've got good credit you should have no problems buying a car now if your a person who can afford to purchase a new vehicle (or a person who doesn't care that your throwing a few thousand bucks out the widow of a new car as you drive it home then go for it I myself have never bought a brand new vehicle and I never will I can't see paying that price for something that I'm not keeping past 7 years (the longest I've ever owed a car)

  • @ricwestdoesitwork
    @ricwestdoesitwork 5 лет назад +26

    I have got to point if I don't like how a dealership comes at me I get up an walk out of the dealership. Thanks for all the information you provide. Love your videos.

  • @brandonzeivel7280
    @brandonzeivel7280 3 года назад

    New subscriber and I was wondering the best time to discuss the amount you plan on putting down?
    Thank you for your time.

  • @mikeyfinance2431
    @mikeyfinance2431 5 лет назад +8

    That’s not true , because dealers will take advantage of down payment and raise interest rate and deceive customers by adding more products, I was a finance manager at a Chevy dealer and I had to quite because I couldn’t sleep at night out of guilt !! You better get a check from your bank or credit union .

    • @TheFuzzyboy1976
      @TheFuzzyboy1976 4 года назад

      Mikey Finance what’s the best option to buy a car that cost $7000 , should I finance with a down payment say $1000 and finance the rest or get a credit union loan and negotiate a cash price at the lowest price possible?

  • @micahjohnson6719
    @micahjohnson6719 4 года назад +18

    If I’m putting down $4000 down on a 2010 4runner that’s $11500 and my payment per month is $319 for 36 months, that equals $11,484 in the end, so where’s my down payment going? 🤔

    • @rogersmith2036
      @rogersmith2036 3 года назад +5

      To their pockets and interest rate with those numbers the interest is 21.2%

  • @xxZerosumxx
    @xxZerosumxx 5 лет назад +12

    1) Don't talk about your money.
    2) Talk about how low you can get price down on the vehicle. ( You may have to shop different dealers)
    3) If you have a trade in, get a price first before giving them your ss#.(If financing)
    4) Once you like the price, start talking about your money.(Down payment/Financing) Keep track of the price at all times. Take a paper and pen if need be.
    5) If at the end of the day(because it will take a whole day) something doesn't sound right. Go home,think about it and don't rush it.

    • @daniilivanov9601
      @daniilivanov9601 5 лет назад +1

      Sounds like a good way to waste a whole day 🤷‍♂️

  • @zabrinatheteacher
    @zabrinatheteacher 4 года назад

    Great info. Thank you!

  • @gerrygalvan7313
    @gerrygalvan7313 4 года назад

    Thanks for all the tips! Is it a good buy to purchase a lease return?

  • @jefftalbot8371
    @jefftalbot8371 5 лет назад +9

    All car salesmen are liars. If they told you the truth the dealership would fire them. I have been buying cars for 40 years and in that time I have purchased 1 vehicle where I feel I got a straight deal. It was December 30th and salesman needed to sell a vehicle. I bout my last new vehicle in July of 2018. I told salesman I was going to buy product x and would not be purchasing extended warranty. Got into the little room and guy just keep hammering a warranty I did not want. I finally told him if you keep pushing I am walking. Stop the extended warranty crap.

    • @timroberts917
      @timroberts917 4 года назад

      So basically fuck F&I managers they shouldn't try to do their job...

    • @WJ-cg1de
      @WJ-cg1de 4 года назад

      If you don't get a warranty and something happens to your car your fucked... You should probably get a warranty genius.

    • @cesarnyc
      @cesarnyc 4 года назад

      I also heard from someone else that buying a car at the end of the year might get you a better deal, I wonder if that is accurate.

  • @Scotty_in_Ohio
    @Scotty_in_Ohio 5 лет назад +9

    More often than not a "down payment" is a way to line the pockets of the sales consultant and finance manager. Unless you are arranging for financing outside of the dealership (always a good idea anyhow) then it's usually pretty easy to bury your cash in the deal with other discounts or rebates as Chevy Dude mentions. Don't be a "payment buyer" understand the rate, term and total cost of the vehicle - know those things before you go and never let the dealer take your credit app before you understand the terms of the deal. Remember too that these guys/gals are professionals - they do this all day long and you do it a few hours every few years - it's not an even playing field. If you think for a second that you'll know what they (truly) paid for the car/truck/suv you're kidding yourself - most of the time even the sales manager doesn't know - they just know about "how low they can go". Dealership owners many not know until all the "program money" is back in and any other factory to dealer incentives are accounted for.

    • @ARCENAULT
      @ARCENAULT 5 лет назад +1

      Absolutely...I been trying to explain to people but the non believers send me nasty ass messages on how they are right financing their vehicles and I am wrong... LMAO..oh well...good to see I am not alone in understanding the value of 💰

  • @ROMANEMPIRE69
    @ROMANEMPIRE69 4 года назад +1

    Thanks for the info Dexter Holland! When is the next Offspring music video coming out? 🤪

  • @josephc8440
    @josephc8440 3 года назад

    Man, I love this channel

  • @fretster3
    @fretster3 2 года назад +4

    Should a downpayment be deducted from the price before or after the sales taxes?

  • @choward874
    @choward874 5 лет назад +18

    I'm saving up so I can pay cash for a new truck screw financing and going in to debt.

  • @pastrana37
    @pastrana37 5 лет назад

    Thank you so much...I'm looking getting a Pre-owned...You help me out a lot...I'm gonna keep looking for more videos until I learned Little More... Thank You

    • @Bear0328
      @Bear0328 5 лет назад +1

      pastrana37 interest rate will be high if pre owned

  • @dominickirkwood
    @dominickirkwood 5 лет назад

    Very good my bro keep up and love video 💯

  • @beetleything1864
    @beetleything1864 4 года назад +60

    You didn’t really explain why a deposit is bad. 🤷‍♂️

    • @Danny-iu1fq
      @Danny-iu1fq 3 года назад +6

      It isn’t

    • @Fume1337
      @Fume1337 3 года назад +6

      Put down the minimum of 20%. If you can’t put down at least 20%, you can’t afford the car. He’s gone through this on multiple vids.

    • @allthingsconsdrble
      @allthingsconsdrble 3 года назад +4

      A lot of words. Dude doesn’t make a single insightful point.

    • @Fume1337
      @Fume1337 3 года назад

      allthingsconsdrble Then you don’t fully comprehend. Re watch the videos until you get them 👍💯

    • @jessicam522
      @jessicam522 2 года назад

      @@Fume1337 can you please explain to me a little more in regards to a down payment on an auto loan? So, my credit union financed me 30k with a 2.9% APR for 60 or 66 months (up to me to decided) and I don’t need to put a down payment. Now if I go to a dealership and they want me to put a down payment is it smart to do so? I don’t really understand this. What’s the point of the down payment if I’m comfortable with the payments I will be making on my 30k loan from my credit union. (Not that I want or am going spend 30k) just an example.

  • @mattsloop2736
    @mattsloop2736 5 лет назад +4

    How do we know if they are scooping the rebates for themselves? Is there a way to figure it out?

  • @martinritch5241
    @martinritch5241 5 лет назад

    GREAT JOB. GREAT INFORMATION . THANKS.

  • @gencfilo2203
    @gencfilo2203 3 года назад

    If I'm not mistaken you still at the same dealership or your left?Great videos and unlimited knowledge. Thankyou

  • @jsangre1515
    @jsangre1515 5 лет назад +4

    Go to your union credit ask for car loan once you r approve walk in to the dealer like you have money because you do from the bank.never tell dealer what do you want to pay monthly.

  • @tobylynn75
    @tobylynn75 5 лет назад +32

    I dont tell dealer anything other than I want lowest price. Internet sales and in person sales. I can buy a 1 way tkt to many dealerships in my State for 200 bucks and yes, I've walked away from deal over $500 bucks.

    • @UFCLodawg
      @UFCLodawg 5 лет назад

      Toby Bridges you and everyone else lol

    • @tobylynn75
      @tobylynn75 5 лет назад +9

      I'm fine with a dealership making money. I'm not fine with dealerships screwing people over.

    • @coopsnz1
      @coopsnz1 5 лет назад

      No local taxes on mrsp lefty

    • @robertguille8784
      @robertguille8784 5 лет назад

      you sound like the problom not the solution lol

    • @Ed-lz4jv
      @Ed-lz4jv 5 лет назад

      Big deal everyone does thaat

  • @thomasleasure5831
    @thomasleasure5831 3 года назад

    Hell yeah Chevy dude I gave you two thumbs up on this brother like you already have a blessed day

  • @thomassoltis5862
    @thomassoltis5862 5 лет назад

    Great video brother keep up the awesome work Happy Thanksgiving to you and your family

  • @joeybaltz582
    @joeybaltz582 5 лет назад +5

    i would assume you're making as much youtubing as you are selling cars. nothing bad about it. You run a good informational channel. Keep on the grind.

  • @xXAust1n46Xx
    @xXAust1n46Xx 5 лет назад +158

    Buy your car with cash and you don’t have to deal with any financing trickery and nonsense.
    I recently purchased my first car, a used 2013 Ford Mustang v6 with cash. I certainly could’ve walked away with a brand new 5.0 mustang GT but I’d rather buy something I can afford in full and then save up at my own leisure than go into huge debt for instant gratification now.
    Plus it’s extra satisfying to buy something after saving up for a while. Just my 2 cents from the Dave Ramsey within me 👍🏼

    • @mertz313
      @mertz313 5 лет назад +23

      Buying out right does not grow your credit which in turns hurts you

    • @xXAust1n46Xx
      @xXAust1n46Xx 5 лет назад +33

      I'm a tree Financing a car to “build credit” is an excuse you tell your wife when she wonders why you have a new car 😄... you can build credit for free by using a credit card and paying it off at the end of the month.
      99% of people that finance and lease cars do so because they simply can’t afford it. But they want instant gratification so they buy it anyways. The banks love it. Easy money for them.

    • @xXAust1n46Xx
      @xXAust1n46Xx 5 лет назад +9

      Daisy Juice Establish how much you want to pay before you even start looking. Look for used cars between 2-5 years old for the best overall value. That works best for a budget of $10,000 and up. If your budget ends up being less than that, look for reliable used cars like a Toyota Corolla or a used Honda.
      And from there if you’re not satisfied with the car you can afford, start a savings account and deposit into it every paycheck and work up to something nicer. And at any time you can use that money for other purchases if need be. Unlike financing a car where you’re on the hook for a bill every month even if your living situation changes.

    • @mariamatias5801
      @mariamatias5801 5 лет назад +12

      From where I'm from if you pay a car up front they investigate you for money laundering 🤣 everyone wants you to just be in debt it's kinda crazy

    • @Kingsec10
      @Kingsec10 5 лет назад +28

      But you bought a V6 and you won’t feel the same way about it in a few months!

  • @rickyscz28
    @rickyscz28 4 года назад

    Wow this is awesome for you to put this kinda stuff out there if I do get to buy a newish car I'll definitely come see you as your not far from me

  • @indycustommade3568
    @indycustommade3568 5 лет назад

    I do think you have great tips. I am a Real Estate Broker so I am on that list somewhere. So no hard feelings.

  • @adrianreining9533
    @adrianreining9533 4 года назад +5

    Exactly why I don't disclose monthly payment preference or down payment. Also, I go in pre-approved. I wait to see if the dealership can beat the rate I got. If not, I go with my pre-approved loan.

  • @BerserkerMaro
    @BerserkerMaro 5 лет назад +146

    Every thousand dollar you put down only takes $20 of the monthly payments

    • @scottjames5498
      @scottjames5498 5 лет назад +24

      Depending on the term of the loan

    • @briangoodie3420
      @briangoodie3420 5 лет назад +17

      I don't think it's $20 anymore, maybe more like $16. If see a car commercial pause it and read the fine print, it will tell you.

    • @guhbe385
      @guhbe385 5 лет назад +5

      @@briangoodie3420 or like do the math yourself....

    • @amb3cog
      @amb3cog 5 лет назад

      @@guhbe385 LOL God Bless you sir!

    • @kais295
      @kais295 5 лет назад +18

      Yeah.. put like 5 grand down.. rather keep that 5 grand and use that money and save it for the payments or 5 grand after you take it out and put it towards the car

  • @julykhoovlog1979
    @julykhoovlog1979 3 года назад

    Thank you for sharing here . Looking forward more in the future #ThingstoKnow

  • @Kilnor
    @Kilnor 5 лет назад

    Great video brother!

  • @TristanWeberNFL
    @TristanWeberNFL 3 года назад +5

    My finance manager when i first started in the car business told me "down IS gross (profit)" Glad you explained this.

    • @Alexi7666
      @Alexi7666 2 года назад

      Down payment is GROSS profit?? In what world? Money down is just that; part of the payment, a committment on the buyer's part.

  • @LuciensMusic
    @LuciensMusic 3 года назад +3

    We called it "pencil whip" in the service. Dealerships take pencil whipping to another level,lol.

  • @daveknott4563
    @daveknott4563 3 года назад

    Mike, I've been circling back to your videos in pursuit of buying a Pacifica. Somewhat tempted to see what you can do for me, not sure if the numbers work on both our ends like you honestly said earlier. Youve got my email if you think so. Congrats on the new wrap too for C8 with Skepple, killer!

  • @Rbhawk3rd
    @Rbhawk3rd 5 лет назад

    Thanks for the awsome video

  • @Dirtnap300
    @Dirtnap300 5 лет назад +7

    ok, interesting discussion.. for me, i only talk out 'the door price' (price with taxes, tags and their fees).. and i dont mention any trades or downpayments until we have agreed on that number... Then when i get to the finance desk i break it to that person that they are wasting their time. I never buy extended warranties or any of the dealer 'treatments' like paint sealing or undercoating... I never feel taken advantage of but who knows?

    • @noegallo552
      @noegallo552 5 лет назад

      Dirtnap300 same I do. It’s funny to see the pissed off look in their faces when they can’t take advantage of someone

    • @TheMotorGuyDirect
      @TheMotorGuyDirect 5 лет назад

      Undercoating can be worth it if it’s $500 or less. But I live in the salt belt. I use to work for an extended warranty company. If you pay less $1000 you got a good deal.

    • @raydavies6236
      @raydavies6236 5 лет назад

      @@TheMotorGuyDirect
      All modern cars are undercoated, all you are doing is blocking drain holes and making your car rust faster with those aftermarket ones now.

  • @skidawg79
    @skidawg79 2 года назад +3

    Love your videos. I don't care what my payments are, I want to see what my trade value is, what my interest rate is and everything that goes into the total. This might not be the right way to go about it, but if a car salesman asks me what i want my payments to be....I walk out.

    • @wildcard9724
      @wildcard9724 2 года назад +1

      Hey Dave, I typically wait until I get the freshly printed itemized contract to scrutinize. Plus thats usually the apex where they sell ext. warranty, undercoat, and tint....... Until my signature is on it, they ain't got diddly squat!

  • @edm9063
    @edm9063 4 года назад +1

    My local Ford dealership wouldn’t sell me a 2015-2019 f-150 after 3 times I turned to Chevy and got a 2019. I put 15% down for both and Chevy except my down payment with no trade in. I have good credit and my APR is 5.0% for 4 years. Was this a Good choice??? I’m ahead of my payments by paying more then what my monthly note is.

  • @scottsimon1575
    @scottsimon1575 3 года назад +1

    I have to say I am enjoying the videos. I hope to be buying a car before the end of the year. I don't know if I will buy new or used, it's doubtful I will buy a car more than $25,000, but I do know I will have a five-figure cash down payment so I'm trying to learn how to capitalize on that amount of cash to get the best deal for myself

  • @harley13purenrg
    @harley13purenrg 5 лет назад +3

    Great video. Very informative. Thank you for sharing. However, just curious, how much of this stuff do you as a dealer do? Or are you completely against the things you've named. I ask because finding an honest car salesman is like finding an honest politician or an honest lawyer. And I will soon be in the market for a newer car. I would definitely prefer to deal with someone who values honesty. Someone who prides himself on making an honest living by making an honest sale.

    • @thetruthyes
      @thetruthyes 5 лет назад +3

      He's not honest, he talks to much when a questions needs a simple answer. Most youtubers are that way. The only really honest youtuber is BigTruckBigRv channel. He really tells it like it is the bad and the good, he even mentions that companies tried to have him advertise their products on his channel but the companie would need to have reviewed the video and make changes if they didn't like something before it was posted. He declined.

  • @endocry
    @endocry 5 лет назад +4

    I focus on total cost and interest rate since I know my credit is good.

  • @talltom0690
    @talltom0690 5 лет назад

    Totally off point, but I don't think I've ever see a vehicle with a grab bar above the drivers window. Purpose? Thanks for all the info. Good stuff.

  • @glennmiller394
    @glennmiller394 5 лет назад +1

    In my county (PA), the sales tax on a lease is 9% of the monthly lease payment, where state tax is only 6%. What a racket.

  • @lincolnrhodes1548
    @lincolnrhodes1548 5 лет назад +97

    yep, this guy is definitely a car salesman. he talks a lot but in a totally incomprehensible way. I know less now than before watching the video.

    • @drwinlied
      @drwinlied 5 лет назад +9

      lol "Tip #2!" I was like, where tf was tip #1? This vid is essentially, 'dealerships will screw you out of money'...which everyone knew before watching the vid

    • @edubb2491
      @edubb2491 5 лет назад +6

      The Chevy dude liked ur comment too with a heart..lmao..omg!!

  • @toadguy9501
    @toadguy9501 5 лет назад +21

    As a former car dealer I'll tell you the real secret. Do NOT finance through the dealership or the manufacturer, this is the golden mistake millions of people make. Go through your credit union or financial institution. Make sure any money you put down you give to them, not the dealer!!!!

    • @ericdiekmann11
      @ericdiekmann11 5 лет назад +11

      I bought a new 2018 Silverado December 2018 and financed thru GM financial scam rip off ass clowns then refinanced a week later at a local credit union. GM was at 6.7 percent my place is 2.7 I did it to get the extra "rebate" . The dealership asked me to wait a few months before doing that lol fk that my loyalty is to my wallet not the dealership.

    • @jamesgarrison6430
      @jamesgarrison6430 5 лет назад

      Were you a dealer or a seller

  • @chasfischer2844
    @chasfischer2844 5 лет назад

    Great videos, thanks

  • @doug9066
    @doug9066 5 лет назад

    Some good inside information on car dealers.

  • @chuckleroy3992
    @chuckleroy3992 5 лет назад +4

    I hate when car dealers talk in down payments and monthly payments. It is an easy way to confuse most customers and hide the bad details of the deal. Could lease an S class for $50 bucks a month with enough money down...

    • @workingshlub8861
      @workingshlub8861 5 лет назад +1

      banks offer 10 year loans on ferraris and lamborghinis etc....i could afford that payment if i want to give up eating

  • @TEXASBOYZ-mu4yo
    @TEXASBOYZ-mu4yo 5 лет назад +68

    I never let dealerships run my credit because they send it to like 60 banks who all run your credit and bring it down bad! I always go to my personal bank and apply for a car loan so i only have one bank running my credit! Plus dealerships hate this because it kills there bonus profit that banks give them for finding them new customers!

    • @theshield1613
      @theshield1613 5 лет назад +3

      really man I should start doing that

    • @TEXASBOYZ-mu4yo
      @TEXASBOYZ-mu4yo 5 лет назад +9

      @@theshield1613 going to dealerships is hard on your credit score!

    • @williamheinsinger7390
      @williamheinsinger7390 5 лет назад +7

      @@TEXASBOYZ-mu4yo ,they are STEALERSHIPS lol

    • @TEXASBOYZ-mu4yo
      @TEXASBOYZ-mu4yo 5 лет назад +8

      @@jasenrock i did once and i recieved like 30 letters to my house telling me i was approved even though the dealership told me they only sent my application to my bank! You can't trust dealerships!

    • @brittanyjones137
      @brittanyjones137 5 лет назад +5

      @@ChevyDude that a lie. All salesman are scumsuckers.

  • @Mikael.formermilitary
    @Mikael.formermilitary 5 лет назад

    I leaned an SUV. The MSRP was 52. After the rebates it was 46 plus my 2k down. This lease seemed like a good deal since it lowered my monthly payment. Now, I'm not so sure.

  • @davidprince1923
    @davidprince1923 5 лет назад

    Thanks dude. We just purchased a new Cruze and we love it.

    • @scottjames5498
      @scottjames5498 5 лет назад +1

      they are ok for about 30k miles. junk!!

  • @donjackson1625
    @donjackson1625 5 лет назад +8

    If you can't afford to pay for the car in full, you need to buy a less expensive vehicle. Never finance a vehicle always pay cash.

    • @coopsnz1
      @coopsnz1 5 лет назад

      Or spend - 32% of your gross income on a car

    • @coopsnz1
      @coopsnz1 5 лет назад +1

      @Roscoe Dogg anti businesses asshole

    • @workingshlub8861
      @workingshlub8861 5 лет назад +3

      @@coopsnz1 ...people will spend a entire years salary on a car because the they can afford the payments over 5-7 years...i was one of those fools ..that is how you stay BROKE...if you make say 40k a year ..you should be driving a 5k at the most..

    • @KaitouKaiju
      @KaitouKaiju 5 лет назад

      If you can afford to pay in full, finance anyway and invest that cash in ETFs. If you have good credit you'll beat the interest.

    • @coopsnz1
      @coopsnz1 5 лет назад

      @@workingshlub8861 20k bro

  • @ocdtechtalk
    @ocdtechtalk 5 лет назад +193

    I appreciate your videos but you really didn't provide any information.

    • @HemiMuscle
      @HemiMuscle 5 лет назад +15

      Exactly

    • @randalgibbons8822
      @randalgibbons8822 5 лет назад +25

      And here I thought it was just my low IQ.

    • @RabbiTrogdor
      @RabbiTrogdor 5 лет назад +9

      What do you mean? He provided a ton of information.

    • @Ed-lz4jv
      @Ed-lz4jv 5 лет назад +16

      no shit, I stopped at 4 minutes in, get your loan from your bank FUCK DEALERS

    • @nobleking7609
      @nobleking7609 5 лет назад +7

      Well this man sells cars for a living... What makes u think he can't sell videos/views....????

  • @troyking4787
    @troyking4787 4 года назад +1

    Man I live in Memphis and I’m planning on buying a gently used ram in the next 5 or 6 months. I’d be willing to make the drive if I could have you and your honesty as my salesman. Can we make that happen?

  • @randallswanson5378
    @randallswanson5378 5 лет назад +1

    Do car dealers still use the term tissue....which is their invoice on what they paid for the car and can you ask to see it....and then add a percentage on top for profit? That would make the buying process so much easier