Washer is one of the most deceptive false teachers. Even though I was already saved, for several years I got caught up listening for hours to teachers like him, and it eventually lead to extreme anxiety and fear that I might not be saved. People like him preach “you must do enough good works or turn from certain sins, and if you don’t maybe you didn’t truly believe.” I believe the Holy Spirit led me to ministries like yours, that preach the clear gospel of grace by faith. Thank you for your videos and I pray that they will help others come to faith and also help them in their walk after they are saved.
@@williamwagoner7857 While Washer may have some or even many elements of truth in his sermons, Washer seems to focus more on the sinner and what they must do or continue to do, than the savior. Now we should do works after we are saved: to honor God, and so that others may believe (Matthew 5:16, 28:19-20, Ephesians 2:10) and I’ll admit, I often feel like I don’t have much “fruit” in my life and want to grow in that, but our fruit or behavior doesn’t save us. The only thing that saves us is trusting that Jesus paid for our sin and rose again.
And the fear and the anxiety came from looking at my life and not seeing hardly any “fruit bearing”, even though deep down I think I knew I was saved. And even if I were a missionary and doing many things to serve the Lord, Washer and his Calvinist friends will never tell you when you’ve done enough because of their “perseverance of the saints” doctrine. And frankly, it is true that no amount of works is good enough in the eyes of God. (Romans 4:4-5)
@@williamwagoner7857 How does a Calvinist "know" they re not simply experiencing "Evanescent Grace"? And that the faith they believe God has given them is not meant to last, by God's decree?
Election and Predestination is God elect some people from the rest and predestined them to be saved. It is a biblical doctrine but it is not the way Calvin understand it.. I'll show you the biblical doctrine of election and predestination in a comment under this comment...
He cannot believe that God will save any sinner that just believes. He doesn't believe in "whosoever" and "all should come to repentance." To him it's just not fair. Thank God He doesn't give us what's fair.
@TheShadow. 1, Any sinner that believes are the elect, But other sinners will not believe, therefore they cannot be saved and they are called reprobates... That's why Jesus said that few can be saved because there are more reprobates than elect.. Matthew 7:13-14..
@TheShadow. 1, WHAT is the BIBLICAL Docrtrine of ELECTION and PREDESTINA TION? Jesus revealed this doctrine of Election and Predestination in the parable of Wheat and Tares In this parable, Jesus revealed the doctrine of election and pre destination..and who are those people who are predestined to be saved, and those predestined to be burned in the lake of fire.. Jesus revealed in this parable that those who are predestined to be saved are the children of God literally.. And those who are predestined to be cast to the Lake of fire are the children of the devil literally.. Adam and his descendants are the children of God because Adam is a true son of God as revealed in Luke 3:38... Cain and his descendants are the children of the devil because Cain is the seed of the serpent(devil) as mentioned in Genesis 3:15... Cain is not the son of Adam, he is not included in the Genealogy of Adam in Genesis 5... Cain has his own Genealogy in Genesis 4.. all the descendants of Cain are very evil people like him... Jesus revealed in this parable also that there are only 2 kinds of people in the world, they are the children of God literally and the children of the devil literally The children of God are called Elect, and the children of the devil are called reprobates... Sometimes Jesus called the Elect Sheep and the Reprobate Goat.. All the Elect are predestined to be saved, and all the Reprobates are predestine to be burned in the Lake of Fire... Jesus gave His Life only for the Sheep(Elect) John 10:15 EXAMPLE of the children of the devil can be found in John 8:44 EXAMPLE of the children of God can be found in Psalm 82:6 and in Romans 8:14.. Having the knowledge of the Parable of Wheat and Tares can answer the age-old Mystery of what will happen to a newly born child who died or to the unborn fetus who died in the womb.. GOD BLESS YOU ALL WHO BELIEVES IN THIS REVELATION OF JESUS IN THE PARABLE OF WHEAT and TARES...
@@reynaldodavid2913Joyes so it’s basically whoever believes… will be saved and others won’t , But calvinists say a person cannot even believe, God has to force them .. then it’s not fair because the once that are not forced just perish.
Paul Washers teaching and the way he exposits the word, by Gods grace, has brought me out of a pietistic funk I've been in for some time now. Realizing I cannot please God and that Christ HAS already pleased God has been so freeing. Believing on this finished work is what pleases Him and inspires love and obedience and the fruit of the Spirit. This is something my mind, left to itself, would be completely unable to realize. The natural man receives not the things of God nor can he understand them.
Paul Washer's alternative to John 3:16...For God so hated the world, that He picked just a very few people to be saved, and rejoiced while watching everyone else fry for eternity.
I’ve been going through a similar struggle because I don’t get what Romans means when it says “God hated Esau”. It makes me think God must hate me or I’m destined for Hell no matter what, but watching these makes me think I’ve listened too much to Calvinism in my life
What is the proof of my salvation? 1 John 5:13 "These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God." That's the best proof I know of.
Don't be fooled. That's not proof at all. God wrote Matt 7:15-16 for a reason. It's a parable, but the lesson is clear. Those people in the parable "believed", and what was their outcome? The only assurance we can have is an ongoing desire to be obedient to the Word of God. We should find ourselves growing in the Lord more this year, than last year, and so on. That we hold the Bible as the Word of God and know when we read it, that's God speaking to us. That it's not a book of fairy tales and morality, but the power of God that leads to eternal life! Understand 1John 5, as all the scriptures, are written for the ones that God is planning to save, or has already saved. It's not written for the unsaved that God didn't choose. They will never see any truth in the Bible. Only, (from their vantage point) contradictions and inconsistencies. It's our Godly fearing of the truth of the Word that assures us of our personal relationship before all mighty God. The believer doesn't need proof, he already gets assurance.
@@victorcroker2765 Given a choice between a subjective assessment of my desire to be obedient to God and believing the promises of God, I'll choose God's promises.
The fact that a "man of God" should EVER have to use an analogy from anything other than just using the Word of God, should raise big Red FLAGS!!! PW had all the answers laid out for him in the Bible to tell that young man about, but what did he do? Started talking about a movie full of magic and mysticism as an analogy. You can't make this stuff up. Smh
Perhaps it was a bad day. Perhaps Washer just wanted to be alone and not bothered. I don't know...but there's no joy, light, life, or sparkle in his eyes. In my opinion (and I'm no expert), he's weighed down by the guilt, unbelief, and inability to obtain the righteousness that he so strongly preaches about.
I don't know how I feel about the whole Calvinist vs. Arminian debate, but I agree with you. He seems a little miserable. I feel bad for him & hope he is a real Christian
@dough3821 As are most false doctrines. Most of Christendom practice works based salvation doctrine!!! The gate is narrow, and few will find it. The gate is Jesus alone!!!
You cannot read the new testament and come to the conclusion that the doctrine called calvinism is not biblical. Not only that, but the doctrine of election is an entirely God glorifying view of salvation where as anything contrary reserves some miniscule amount of glory for the decision of man. Dead men cannot "make a decision" and free will is an illusion. Not only from a theistic perspective but from a scientific one as well.
It is an unpersuasive claim that people who hate God will not jump at the chance to avoid hell. The most hardened criminal, sitting in prison, understands the desirability of a full and free pardon.
Another one regarding the will of man here. God works in you to will (in addition to John 1:12-13): ”Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling; for it is God who works in you both to will and to do for His good pleasure.“ Philippians 2:12-13 NKJV
“And so we have the prophetic word confirmed, which you do well to heed as a light that shines in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts; knowing this first, that no prophecy of Scripture is of any private interpretation, for prophecy never came by the will of man, but holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Spirit.” - II Peter 1:19-21 NKJV. So, by this account, when the prophets prophesied under the influence/inspiration of the Holy Spirit, were they being robots?
I have watched Paul Washer for the last 2 years and I am convinced that he preaches straight from the Bible regarding salvation, justification, sanctification and glorification. He loves the Gospel of Christ and what he means for good, some of you are seeing as bad. Specifically, when he makes you "doubt your salvation", he isn't being mean or acting out his "Calvinism". He means that just because you prayed the sinners prayer, that doesn't mean you are saved. That prayer or any other communication you may have with God must have involved the deposit of the Holy Spirit. If that had happened, then your life would have transformed over timev to become more like Christ and life was regenerated. Paul Washer simply says that you must have evidence of the fruits of your new life in Christ that is, desire to read his Word, wanting to fellowship with His people, less and less desire of the things of this world, wanting to confess our sins and humbling ourselves, have new relationship with sin so that when we sin, we ask for forgiveness right away, and we understand that God is most offended by our sin, we want to worship more. If you consider this newness of life as works then, that is not Biblical, we love like this new life because the indwelling Holy Spirit compels us to live such lives, not because we have to or out of obligation. These are some of the fruits of our new life in Christ. Paul Washer all days this kind of life style reflects our salvation in Christ. We still have temptation and sin but generally our course of life follows Christ. Its better that we all search our assurance of salvation on this earth before we enter eternity, which is too late because there is no purgatory. Fruits or evidence in our lives confirm if we belong to Christ and not whether we say we believe or we made a decision to follow Christ.
God's promise to all who believe is the evidence of salvation. If I can't rely on His promises to confirm my salvation then how are my pitiful attempts at good works going to prove anything?
@@TheShadow.1 When you’ve truly come under grace, the new birth.. not only do you have complete forgiveness of every sin.. but when you come in to Grace, sin will not rule over you anymore.. because your not under the old covenant law.. but your under the new covenant.. One way you can find out is.. I’ll present this one verse to you, and you give me the answer.. pay attention to this, Romans 6:14 (KJV) 14 For sin shall not have dominion [rule] over you: for [because] ye are not under the law, but under grace. So, two questions… 1. what is the evidence, proof that you’re under Grace? - Sin does not rule over me… Correct! 2. Next question, what is the evidence or proof that you’re still under the law? - Sin rules over me! Absolutely right.. law is old covenant… what is the proof that a lot of people reading this or hearing this are under the old covenant? Sin rules over you… Sin rules over you. We’re not talking about sinless perfection… (1 John 1:8) nobody is sinless perfect… Christ alone is… there’s a difference, between falling hundred times a day, walking in sin… and making a mistake.. messing up… and being grieved in chastised as it says in Hebrews, being brought back to the narrow path… Beloved, Being redeemed makes you zealous of good works… in other words, you have a burning passion of fire that says, I wanna serve you, I want to obey you, I want to do good works, Oh Lord, I want to serve you… That’s the mark of the New Birth, not only absolute complete forgiveness of every sin no matter how dark. But, Redemption from a disobedient lifestyle.. Redemption from your old cultural lifestyle… sin does not rule you… So, when sin rules over you beloved, you are under the old covenant, you are under law… you have not understood grace at all…
@@rubeno.2808 Indulge me for a moment. How many sins are to many before you realize you might be lost? How many good works does a person do before he has assurance that he's saved?
@@TheShadow.1 your feelings nor your passions interpret scripture beloved. Gods Word interprets Gods Word. Throw your feelings out when it contradicts scripture
You are saved hen you believe, so when you actually believe you show your fruits. You actually see a change. Works don’t save but when someone is actually saved they show their works because they love the Lord and actually want to please him. You will become a new creation.
@@BibleLine I automatically happens because we are a new creation in Christ Jesus. “Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation. The old has passed away; behold, the new has come.” 2 Corinthians 5:17 “But you are not controlled by your sinful nature. You are controlled by the Spirit if you have the Spirit of God living in you.” Romans 8:9 “Put off your old self, which belongs to your former manner of life and is corrupt through deceitful desires, and to be renewed in the spirit of your minds, and to put on the new self, created after the likeness of God in true righteousness and holiness.” Ephesians 4:22-24 Jesus already did His part on the cross, but now we need to do our part. Romans 6:4 says: “We were buried therefore with Him by baptism into death, in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, we too might walk in newness of life.” Romans 6:4 Remember Paul’s warning in Galatians 5:1: “So Christ has truly set us free. Now make sure that you stay free, and don’t get tied up again in slavery to the law”. Galatians 5:1 “Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind” Romans 12:2
@@BibleLine when one has truly accepted Yeshua as Lord and Savior full heartedly, the fruits will gradually start becoming automatic or better yet from one’s own will because they want to please the Lord and show their love towards him. Instead of trying to attack a fellow brother in Christ I’d encourage to pray for him, Just as Jesus commanded us to do so.
We would either have to be perfect, or God is okay with occasionally sinning. If the Spirit takes over, you would be one of these two. Which is it? Or perhaps you have a fully fledged flesh nature AND a perfect new spirit nature. They war in you, but YOU choose whom ye serve. - Trent
Many times I have given the gospel to my parents and no evidence of salvation. I began to realize that it's never gonna be the amount or right gospel or evidence that will make them see. The word of God and reality of man is real. He is dead until made alive. Not by human will or force but God alone through Jesus Christ.
I struggle to know if i am saved. Am i saved when I believe regardless of anything I have done in the past? There is nothing I can do to eliminate the grace of god where I would do anything else besides believe to be saved correct?
Yes. If you have believed, Jay, you are saved. It would be foolish for you to continue in sin, but if you do; you still have salvation. You may face chastening from the Father, or you will miss out on rewards in heaven. This is the obvious result of a believer living carnally. Read 1 Cor. 3 for more clarity on this - notice the Corinthians were saved. - Trent
@@BibleLine thank you again I’m sorry again but i have heard so many people say something you do adds a requirement and I’m trying to get that out of my head I really appreciate your help though god bless you
It just makes me cringe to even watch/listen to Paul Washer!!! He is so deeply deceived! Thank you pastor Jesse, and Trent, for leading people to the truth...to what the BIBLE says, not man-made heresies!!!
Can you explain Psalms 32:1-5? It sounds like confession or acknowledgment of our sins. Is this important? I believe that Jesus died on the cross for my sins, but are we supposed to know that we're sinners and need God's grace?
The passage is a prayer from David to the Lord. The statement in the beginning is actually used in Romans 4. Do we need to understand we are sinners? Yes. Do we have to confess all the sin to God to be saved? Of course not. That’s for the already saved individual’s fellowship with the Lord. The unbeliever needs enough information to understand that they should believe in Christ. Nonetheless, we do not add to or overcomplicate things. - Trent
There is one point missing from this text in Luke that is glaring. The rich man never repented of his sin, neither did he demonstrate or even claim that he would seek to love the Lord his God. All that he asked fkr was physical relief from his torment, finger tip of water v24. And mental relief that his brothers would not enter into that torment v28. There is no sign of remorse over his life nor any demonstration of a changed heart towards God. Its just not in the text.
How do you explain John 6:44 in response to what you said in 11:53? “No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws them, and I will raise them up at the last day."
John 12:32 explains John 6:44. Jesus draws ALL men by the cross. He draws by the cross. The Spirit convicts people of sin, righteousness and judgment - He is always leading people to the cross. He puts the individual in a place where they must choose. - Trent
Here is a legitimate question, if God does not let you choose the gift then is it a gift? No, it’s forced upon you. In other words, the love is forced and we become the robots designed for that function. It is by grace we are saved, through faith. What saves? Grace of Christ on a wretched man whose blood was poured out
@@BibleLine I know, I was posing a question to Calvinists more than you, my apologies. I was pointing out that a free gift isn’t free by the logic used
Great video! While listening to this, 2 Cor. 11:3 popped into my mind right away. "But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ." Why would God make salvation so complicated if He wants everyone to be saved (as 1 Tim. 2:4 clearly states)? How can a loving God select only a small percentage of mankind to be saved and consign the rest to eternal torment without giving them an opportunity to believe? Furthermore, how does this teaching square with the biblical truth that God is no respecter of persons (Acts 10:34)? Calvinism is one big fat contradiction, and it naturally leads to one of two outcomes. Either a person will look at their works and think they are performing well enough to prove that they are one of the elect, or they will look to their works and conclude that they are hopelessly lost. Either way, the Calvinist is looking to their works and not to the finished work of Jesus Christ on the cross.
@dough, Indeed God wants every one to be saved, Jesus Himself said that few can be saved.. Matthew 7:13-14.. Because most will not believe and they are called reprobates.. Those who believe are called the elect...
@dough, WHAT is the BIBLICAL Docrtrine of ELECTION and PREDESTINA TION? Jesus revealed this doctrine of Election and Predestination in the parable of Wheat and Tares In this parable, Jesus revealed the doctrine of election and pre destination..and who are those people who are predestined to be saved, and those predestined to be burned in the lake of fire.. Jesus revealed in this parable that those who are predestined to be saved are the children of God literally.. And those who are predestined to be cast to the Lake of fire are the children of the devil literally.. Adam and his descendants are the children of God because Adam is a true son of God as revealed in Luke 3:38... Cain and his descendants are the children of the devil because Cain is the seed of the serpent(devil) as mentioned in Genesis 3:15... Cain is not the son of Adam, he is not included in the Genealogy of Adam in Genesis 5... Cain has his own Genealogy in Genesis 4.. all the descendants of Cain are very evil people like him... Jesus revealed in this parable also that there are only 2 kinds of people in the world, they are the children of God literally and the children of the devil literally The children of God are called Elect, and the children of the devil are called reprobates... Sometimes Jesus called the Elect Sheep and the Reprobate Goat.. All the Elect are predestined to be saved, and all the Reprobates are predestine to be burned in the Lake of Fire... Jesus gave His Life only for the Sheep(Elect) John 10:15 EXAMPLE of the children of the devil can be found in John 8:44 EXAMPLE of the children of God can be found in Psalm 82:6 and in Romans 8:14.. Having the knowledge of the Parable of Wheat and Tares can answer the age-old Mystery of what will happen to a newly born child who died or to the unborn fetus who died in the womb.. GOD BLESS YOU ALL WHO BELIEVES IN THIS REVELATION OF JESUS IN THE PARABLE OF WHEAT and TARES...
@@williamwagoner7857 Name a work that people can see that a lost person can't do. If a lost person can do works, then how can it be proof of salvation?
@@TheShadow.1 “Yea, a man may say, thou hast faith, and I have works: show me thy faith WITHOUT thy works, AND I WILL SHOW THEE MY FAITH BY MY WORKS” (James 2:18) You can be lost and still do works. But if you were a selfish person before Christ who now has a desire to be selfless for Christ. That is evidence of salvation. It would depend upon the person though. I know plenty of generous lost people.
These people really make Salvation burdensome and it's not. Jesus even said my yolk is easy and my burden is light. Come unto me all you who are weary and heavy laden and I'll give you rest. Mankind has the ability to choose or reject God. Adam and Eve chose to disobey God in the garden. Satan chose to rebel against God. It has always been a matter of choice. Choose you this day who you will serve. It's not a matter of God choosing some and rejecting others. When the Gospel message goes forth, a person chooses whether or not they will accept it or reject it. The same offer is given to all of humanity. Jesus paid the price for our sin. Will we accept that and believe and trust in Him alone for Salvation or reject it. It's just really that simple
I see Washer’s focus on all this total depravity stuff as a kind of false humility. He sees himself as a greater Christian because he’s so aware of what a horrible human he was born as. Humility is a Christ like character. Anything false is not.
Most of Calvanism is bunk. However, even a broken clock is right twice a day. I think the best way to explain "chosen" is that God, as an eternal being, has seen our lives play out. He knows whose are His. He therefore has chosen us to mold as clay, to refine as gold. He knows us before we are born because He is an eternal being. It is written that no one can claim that Jesus is Lord except that he is called by the Holy Spirit to do that. Chosen. So, yes, we all get to choose God/Jesus or not. However, God compels us, calls us, to Himself because He knows us and chose us. ✝️🕊️💗
Wow, “Eragon” and “Orcs”. AraGORN and Uruk-Hai. Also, he totally misses the point of LoTR. Men are the reason why the world is falling apart. Yet, they unit and push the forces of darkness back to Mordor. But the unlikely of heroes, Frodo takes the burden of the One Ring and destroys it for the greater good.
You forgot the mention the second half of John 1:12. Let’s complete it for you: ”But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name: who were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.“ John 1:12-13 NKJV Aka, they were not born of the will of man but of God.
Man can’t come to God unless there is a work of God in them to. Think about this, could Israel have accepted Jesus? No they couldn’t have because the prophecy wouldn’t have been fulfilled. God is in control not men’s choices.
Washer is right. All men reject God until He makes them alive. The whosoever are those who have eyes to see and ears to hear which is also given to men by God's free will. Amen.
You know I've asked many ppl who believe in irresistible grace as your describing,and ever one of those ppl all think God wants their family and children saved. But if what you say is true, most of those family members and children are Not chosen to salvation. And my question is, does that bother you? And if it's your child, would it bother you?
Lets get a couple of things straight. First the story of the rich man and Lazarus is simply a story and NOT a parable. This story was directed at a certain group of people, the Priest more specifically the High Priest who happened to have five brothers. Second, no one is in or going to Heaven. You will not find that anywhere in the Bible. It does say where Christ is we will be with him but that's not until the first resurrection. Third, no one is in Hell or the lake of fire. The great white throne of judgement hasn't happened so everyone is still in their grave from Adam to King David to Peter and anyone else that has ever died.
@@TheShadow.1, Did you not say, I think the wills are outnumbered? I don't really understand what you say because your sentence is incomplete, but I presumed that you mean, those who will to be saved are more than those who don't will to be saved.. becuse I already sent that few will be saved.. I should be the one to ask you what is your point because your sentence was not understandable...
Brother I think you and brother Washer agree on so much and what you disagree on is a matter of perspective and arguments could be made for both. I’m sure you would agree that salvation isn’t about you choosing Jesus but Jesus choosing you. It’s why things like the sinners prayer doesn’t work. It CAN work but not everyone who says it is truly saved. Why attack others who preach the same gospel as you but whom you might have slight differences?
Regeneration does happen upon belief. You receive the Holy Spirit, and he regenerates your dead spirit to life. You now have a regenerated spirit that cannot sin. It is that your flesh still sins (ie the body you see - the spirit is not seen). Sanctification is taught 3 fold: 1) Positional Sanctification - we are immediately set apart in Christ the moment we believe (1 Cor. 6, Eph 1) 2) Practical Sanctification - we set ourselves apart daily by walking in the Spirit - this changes all the time (Gal. 5:16-23) 3) Permanent Sanctification - we are set apart in eternal life as perfect as Christ upon death or rapture (1 John 3:1-3) Thanks - Trent
@@BibleLine Well Trent, yes regeneration does happen when we believe. But the thing is a person places their faith in Christ through the Spirit’s conviction or the convincing of sin and judgment. It is the Spirit of God that grants repentance towards God and faith towards Jesus Christ. It’s the Spirit that gives life. This is a spiritual birth isn’t it? Just by having so called head knowledge without the Spirit giving life sounds like a spiritual stillborn, not a true spiritual birth. There must be heart felt contrition and heart felt repentance towards God. This is a work of the Spirit. Only the Spirit of God can change the heart of a sinner. A heart that loves sin is a heart that isn’t prepared for Heaven. Free Grace preachers typically change the meaning of repentance and encourage belief from the head, while the heart still loves sin… That sounds like a heart that is very far from God.
I like Washer but I do think Calvanism's issue is that it sits on one half of a paradox. It's not that he is wrong, but that he is half right to me in a lot of these points.
@@brian970 I think I am just slower to draw the line between error and False prophet. I think Washer would agree nobody is saved in anything but faith alone, he just puts the order of sanctification and faith on the eternal side of the paradox rather then the earthly one we live in. Ya know?
yea,,butt think of all the souls lost from him not understanding and not preaching The clear Gospel,,God didn't make the Gospel to be confusing..John3;16 Eph.2;8,9 God bless.
@jeht4J, WHAT is the BIBLICAL Docrtrine of ELECTION and PREDESTINA TION? Jesus revealed this doctrine of Election and Predestination in the parable of Wheat and Tares In this parable, Jesus revealed the doctrine of election and pre destination..and who are those people who are predestined to be saved, and those predestined to be burned in the lake of fire.. Jesus revealed in this parable that those who are predestined to be saved are the children of God literally.. And those who are predestined to be cast to the Lake of fire are the children of the devil literally.. Adam and his descendants are the children of God because Adam is a true son of God as revealed in Luke 3:38... Cain and his descendants are the children of the devil because Cain is the seed of the serpent(devil) as mentioned in Genesis 3:15... Cain is not the son of Adam, he is not included in the Genealogy of Adam in Genesis 5... Cain has his own Genealogy in Genesis 4.. all the descendants of Cain are very evil people like him... Jesus revealed in this parable also that there are only 2 kinds of people in the world, they are the children of God literally and the children of the devil literally The children of God are called Elect, and the children of the devil are called reprobates... Sometimes Jesus called the Elect Sheep and the Reprobate Goat.. All the Elect are predestined to be saved, and all the Reprobates are predestine to be burned in the Lake of Fire... Jesus gave His Life only for the Sheep(Elect) John 10:15 EXAMPLE of the children of the devil can be found in John 8:44 EXAMPLE of the children of God can be found in Psalm 82:6 and in Romans 8:14.. Having the knowledge of the Parable of Wheat and Tares can answer the age-old Mystery of what will happen to a newly born child who died or to the unborn fetus who died in the womb.. GOD BLESS YOU ALL WHO BELIEVES IN THIS REVELATION OF JESUS IN THE PARABLE OF WHEAT and TARES...
My understanding of choice in it's purity means go this way OR that way, he is not using the true meaning of the ability to do this, if Man will not or can not choose (a given) than you cannot use the word choice? it senseless....
I honestly don’t see how you all see Paul washer as a bad preacher 🤷🏽♂️ he speaks the Truth straight from the Bible along with John McArthur, Voddie Baucham Steven Lawson ect. unlike most pastors who preach heresy…I’m curious to who you all listen to. Because I who have been listening to washer & many others I don’t see any issues at all.
@OneMoment, WHAT is the BIBLICAL Docrtrine of ELECTION and PREDESTINA TION? Jesus revealed this doctrine of Election and Predestination in the parable of Wheat and Tares In this parable, Jesus revealed the doctrine of election and pre destination..and who are those people who are predestined to be saved, and those predestined to be burned in the lake of fire.. Jesus revealed in this parable that those who are predestined to be saved are the children of God literally.. And those who are predestined to be cast to the Lake of fire are the children of the devil literally.. Adam and his descendants are the children of God because Adam is a true son of God as revealed in Luke 3:38... Cain and his descendants are the children of the devil because Cain is the seed of the serpent(devil) as mentioned in Genesis 3:15... Cain is not the son of Adam, he is not included in the Genealogy of Adam in Genesis 5... Cain has his own Genealogy in Genesis 4.. all the descendants of Cain are very evil people like him... Jesus revealed in this parable also that there are only 2 kinds of people in the world, they are the children of God literally and the children of the devil literally The children of God are called Elect, and the children of the devil are called reprobates... Sometimes Jesus called the Elect Sheep and the Reprobate Goat.. All the Elect are predestined to be saved, and all the Reprobates are predestine to be burned in the Lake of Fire... Jesus gave His Life only for the Sheep(Elect) John 10:15 EXAMPLE of the children of the devil can be found in John 8:44 EXAMPLE of the children of God can be found in Psalm 82:6 and in Romans 8:14.. Having the knowledge of the Parable of Wheat and Tares can answer the age-old Mystery of what will happen to a newly born child who died or to the unborn fetus who died in the womb.. GOD BLESS YOU ALL WHO BELIEVES IN THIS REVELATION OF JESUS IN THE PARABLE OF WHEAT and TARES...
Sorry you've become convinced of that. For all his Christian bravado... this poor man doesn't even have assurance that he is saved because Calvinism doesn't afford it. Even R. C. Sproul affirmed that. The problem the Calvinist has is this; Since Calvinism contends no one can believe and respond positively to God apart from God's effectual act upon them against their will, (Sproul reluctantly agreed it is akin to 'spiritual rape' because the reprobate literally has no say in the matter), This is also true of anyone who leaves the faith or rejects Calvinism. I’d say one would be hard pressed to suggest these prominent former Calvinists didn’t ‘understand’ TULIP. Here are a few recent well known and respected de-converts: Tyler Vela, long-time popular Calvinist apologist, now denies Christ Paul Maxwell, a former long-time associate of John Piper/ Desiring God writer and the author of the book The Trauma of Doctrine, has announced he is no longer a Christian. Derek Webb, artistic apologist for Reformed theology for 10yrs in his work with Caedmon's and then in his solo albums, now denies Christ. Joshua Harris, leading Calvinist pastor and author, fonder of Sovereign Grace Ministries, associate of Louis Giglio/’Passion movement’, left ministry and the faith altogether. ALL of these people affirmed Christianity and Calvinism for many years... which they also affirmed was by God's decree, just as any Calvinist does. "Unconditional Election" is the Calvinist fundamental premise. However, now they have all abandoned their belief in Christ. And a Calvinist must affirm this is also only by God's decree. This means their entire Christian experience and testimony was only an episode of Evanescent Grace... their faith was fake.. by God' decree, and they had no idea. John Calvin devised his theory of temporary/ ‘Evanescent Grace’ which teaches that God grants 'temporary/fake "faith" some which causes them to live convincingly 'as-if' they are saved. BUT God withdraws it later because he was just messing with their mind for his own amusement and never really loved them anyway. THAT is what Calvin taught and IT IS THE ONLY way to explain those who abandon their profession of faith within the parameters allowed by Calvinism. No man can profess Christ apart from God's decree and the same is true for those who later deny Christ.... As they like to say, "It's all God".🤷🏻♂ But you can never know if the faith you think you have is actually 'genuine' or not. This means Calvinists are encouraged to worship a God who, in the end, cannot be trusted to love any one individual…personally, certainly not themselves. If he did it to these studied, prominent, trusted, and respected Calvinists, you have no assurance God does not already have plans to do it to you. 🤔 The Calvinist can have no assurance of their election to salvation because Calvinism does not afford it. All one can do is search for 'evidence' of Christian activity (works) and cling to them like a broken plank form a sinking ship and "hope for the best" because that's all they have. As for those who come out from under the fog of Calvinism and retain their faith in Christ, the single most common comment is along the lines of “I can’t believe I ever fell for it” Once you accept the false premise of Calvinism, all scripture must be first ‘filtered’ through TULIP and that which doesn’t ‘fit’ must be ‘massaged’ until it does, and that which cannot be made to fit is explained away or sacrificed on the alter or “mystery”. All this is done that the doctrine of TULIP may survive.
@Merkdawgm16, I admire Paul Washer, for he knows many thing and very serious in his preaching, But Calvin's election and predestinstion which he believes is wrong...
@Merkdawgm16, WHAT is the BIBLICAL Docrtrine of ELECTION and PREDESTINA TION? Jesus revealed this doctrine of Election and Predestination in the parable of Wheat and Tares In this parable, Jesus revealed the doctrine of election and pre destination..and who are those people who are predestined to be saved, and those predestined to be burned in the lake of fire.. Jesus revealed in this parable that those who are predestined to be saved are the children of God literally.. And those who are predestined to be cast to the Lake of fire are the children of the devil literally.. Adam and his descendants are the children of God because Adam is a true son of God as revealed in Luke 3:38... Cain and his descendants are the children of the devil because Cain is the seed of the serpent(devil) as mentioned in Genesis 3:15... Cain is not the son of Adam, he is not included in the Genealogy of Adam in Genesis 5... Cain has his own Genealogy in Genesis 4.. all the descendants of Cain are very evil people like him... Jesus revealed in this parable also that there are only 2 kinds of people in the world, they are the children of God literally and the children of the devil literally The children of God are called Elect, and the children of the devil are called reprobates... Sometimes Jesus called the Elect Sheep and the Reprobate Goat.. All the Elect are predestined to be saved, and all the Reprobates are predestine to be burned in the Lake of Fire... Jesus gave His Life only for the Sheep(Elect) John 10:15 EXAMPLE of the children of the devil can be found in John 8:44 EXAMPLE of the children of God can be found in Psalm 82:6 and in Romans 8:14.. Having the knowledge of the Parable of Wheat and Tares can answer the age-old Mystery of what will happen to a newly born child who died or to the unborn fetus who died in the womb.. GOD BLESS YOU ALL WHO BELIEVES IN THIS REVELATION OF JESUS IN THE PARABLE OF WHEAT and TARES...
8:30 I dont know who either of you are, I am a Diciple apart from the temple systems, homeless and with no head but my own headlessness. This other guy isnt totally wrong. He is just prideful so he isnt allowing himself to see his mistakes. Maybe, it seems. But, you know? He is the truth of that statement, the painfully hard to understand truth; "The Lord, by his nature. Knows at the moment of creation who will rise and who will fall because by his nature he is also at the end. The Lord, by his nature. Had to begin, knowing personally. Who and how many, and why. So, by the nature and law of things. God, is in mourning for what he has done. Knowing, ultimately it is a must-be-done as it is also inevitable and the only self-completed solution is completions by prophesy". Aint it wierd how even After Jesus, the Father is like, "Im still claiming the Jews. Try and stop me, I declare against my own oaths, I will, claim my tribes despite all wisdom". Almost like, we are using loopholes alot here in the final ages. So, I wonder. What is, "Eternal Suffering in a Super Massive Blackhole". Is Hell and eternal suffering, _Actually_ eternal. Or is eternal damnation just slightly less eternally eternal than God's more perfect eternal love!?" Hey, I got hypothetical and philosophical at the end. My bad. My point is, yeah- Pappy Daddy, Creator God-King Prime.. kinda did this to us, in a very loose sense, but more directly yeah. We do this to ourselves. All he asked us to do was love, be loved, and recognize where loves flow-ebb-reside enter-in-froms. Above. Within. Without. Now, Even Below. ✝️ Selfishly. Undead. We, as a species, as a rule. Make that hard. I am pretty confident the bible is only 10% Complete. I like the metaphor; B.asic I.nstructions B.fore L.eaving E.arth is like, Boy Scouts Level Basic. But like, we baby children so that tracks. 😂❤ I can sub, thats cool. Praise Jesus! Know, he traditionally keeps me on, "Some Other Sh*t". Over here on the fringes of what we should even consider to be "Safe for General Audiences". Beacuse brilliance is Akin to lunacy is how it is received and function and I believe I managed to lucky into a minutia of Solomon's Blood. I know what I said! But I actually said something very different as well. I am not being confusing; I am being extremely candid in my opening gambit to run a monopoly on Christian Mystery Sciences or, whatever we call guesswork-through-faith. I really only do that to immediately seperate myself wholistically from the identity, "Christians Churches". Because I am neither a Christian, Nor a Church. I am a Disciple and of the Body, who generally speaking, I's is kept apart and on the fringes of what is considered safe for knoweldge. As a tool bag. 🤓 WHY?! Do I play such a bold and mightily strange gambit? Marrying what is clearly a wisdom unbelievable with a reasoning unfathomable!? I liken it to Wizardry, which is not Sorcery but a Spirit Science like Math, but it is actually Litterally Called Kabalaa and I never studied that; I basically never studied, anything. Except General Knowledge, Bible, and Culinary Arts and Bushcraft. I was already NUTS at a very young age so I jusy flat-out begged for _all_ the gifts and responsibilities. I also begged to be like specific individuals, Namely Importantly? Solomon, Isiah, Jeremiah, Sampson, Barnabus, and Timmy. I also now ask for Peter's Seat, to what actually might be an annoying degree, though is is largely teasing. The Reason it has to be as it is is so that by the end, the pastor and I can nod as Equal-but-not-evenly-Yolked Though, evenly distributed Collueges and Brothers. It throws of everything below Prophet and The Minister Specifically so, i never really ever end up saying anything to the wrong people. By now the general population has discredited me and moved on. I basically asked them, too. But, I also pose an immediate threat to the general well being of any congregation, by meritorious conquest for true-truth and the Hidden. It is _Literally_ more advantageous to outmyslef in glourious self defamation of a none specified calibur now, and explain it. This way I can quip and be a basic nobody later, generally just hanging and adding feedback, as I do. Comment junky. But, this way, you and I know. "The Lord Sent a Gnome". But, also. The Lord Can't _Truely_ Send A Gnome. By virtue we wanderaimless no holme for our gnomey dumb-dome. I am saying, i just established the ranks. For the sake of brevity. Now I am saying, but it is a formality; There is One King and he Choses Wierd-do's with Wierd Identification Papers and Career Paths and No Swagger-butt-Fore the Flow of Spirit. Seriously, "All is Folly and Vexation of Spirit". I know things no mortal man actually should, and it is because I am quite literally insane. Humble? Usually. I am also Self-Realized through Grace. I have a justifiable ego. Which, again. Is all intentionally said long to ensure, "All is Folly and Vexhation of Spirit". I claim to be a Gnomish Wizard Dragon. And, I say some super wise and compelling shit, Please do censorship fight me. I promise, the Lord Punishes me for my hubris, 2023 was a Rebuke Frenzy and I, broke some stuff again. "Though art my Battle Axe". I modernized, "Lord. If I may be so Bold? Thermobaric Bombs are technically Cheaper if, we Buy in Bulk". Ehhh, I hit the end. I make it up as I go along until I hear a mataphysical buzzer. Take a Pray to ask, "Am I out of Line". **Breath** No, nothing heretical just; As usual my Filter is more of a Mageohone and my Confidence comes off as Arrogance and; I _really_ did not need to go to all this trouble to say; "Warning, I make Pentecostals Look like casual roleplayers!" Because they kind of are. This is what it looks like when also ritualistic and methodical in-wake in-line intention. When one, listens and restrains ones high-lunacy. Which, is let me explain. Brilliance. I am A Gnome, a Neeerd. Gamer. Loser gambler and number addict. Intelligence is a Metric of Logic Wisdom is a Metric of Reason Charisma is a Metric of Faith Protestantism; Orthodoxy; Pentecosts. "I came to bring Balance to the force, not tear it all down. We are all tribes of one nation, as it should be. Not enemies who vie for dominance!" We~ have however forgetten the importance of a balanced mind. I will say, "I am done, halfway back". Because, "all is Vexation and folly" and "i am a bored nerd comment junky loner" and "on paper quite justifiably very sketchy" while also, "claiming some pretty bold things". Yeah. 👋🙈🖐🥸😰🤓🙏🙉🙏🧐😎😇🥰👌🙊🤌 I swear on my immortal soul which is a losers gamble for all when one knows the _true_ value of an immerusable value. I have no agenda. I just know how this goes. Everything copacetic for a month, then bam. I said a fo-paúľ and my head pops off, there is a huge dispute and then the rebuking. I actually _practically_ hate, in that part. So I avoid it. I also have no desire to mislead anyone by my sudden and seemingly poingiant appearance. I really do, have absolutely no idea why I do a majority of the things I do, or why I chose the words I do. My Build is Primarily Charisma, and Wisdom from Levelups, but I skill-dump into intellectual persuits. My Classes are "Disciple 7, Wizard 13, Loremaster 22" My Profession is "Church Breaker-Reformer" and my Allegiance is to the crown. Okay, now if I did everything just right and did nothing at all. Listening to The Spirit and, hold on. **Looking Up To The LIving Christ** Yeah, no one should have any idea what just happened but, i should also have achieved maximum control going forward. To reiterate, this is a legal document so I can be an Irreverant Clown and Quip around and generally just blurt things out in small leisure ocassionally bordering on hectical. Because I am a Fool for the Glory, I am A Jester and I clowning the Local Pasteur. For the sake of future brevity and understanding. Look away peasants, for I am Royalty Un-Crowned speaking to You-Who-Arsed-Better. I simply, probably, won't survive a repeat of 2023 and what I do is. Really so mild.
Jesus calls some goats & some sheep & he laid His life down for His sheep. There are those who were given to Him by His Father before the foundation of the world & they come by the empowerment of the Holy Spirit (not by debt but by God’s Grace - He is free to love the entire creation, and love His people in it enough to actually, effectively call and save them. The others He still owes no Grace & can leave them in their fallen state, according to His pleasure - not worldly wicked unsaved people who feel they are entitled. This is simple stuff - if you abandon all notions of God owing several people salvation simply because He elected to ensure at least one person gets saved without fail. Jesus didn’t love His people enough to provide a “possible” way - He did EVERYTHING to guarantee His Sheep actually ARE fully and completely saved. He loved the World of His sheep & of those, because of Him - not the sheep, He will lose NONE.
This is a bible fact that no one can come to Jesus to be saved unless he is drawn by the Father to Jesus, salvation is not our own doing but 100% all God's doing.. John 3:16 which says: For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. Note: Those who believe in Jesus are the same people drawn to Jesus by the Father... Not their own ability to come to Jesus...
Jesus revealed in the parable of Wheat and Tares that there are only 2 kinds of people in the world, the children of God literally and the children of the devil literally.. all the children of God will be saved, and all the children of the devil will be burned in fire.. Example of the children of the devil can be found in John 8:44.. Example of the children of God can be found in Romans 8:14...
@@BibleLine , John 12:32 says: "And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me." Note this is not drawing unto salvation, and it is the lifting up of the cross that draws all people to Jesus.. Whereas in John 6:44 , the drawing is for salvation and the Father is the one who draws them to Jesus to be saved.. If you remember while Jesus hang on the cross, all kinds of people were drawn to the cross.. Some crying and mourn while others come to insult him and to ridicule him.. John 6:44, No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.
He doesn’t say “I will draw all KINDS of people.” He says “I will draw all men unto me.” This is very much in line with John 6:44. You take the Calvinist doctrine of Limited Atonement, and you force it upon all the alls, worlds, and everys in the Bible. Of course universalism is false, but all people have opportunity to believe in his death for their sin (which was done on the cross). - Trent
@@BibleLineIt doesn't matter,, all kinds of peope and all men are the same which means all people.. My point is that the drawing is not for salvation and it is not the Father that draws them to Jesus, but the lifting up of the cross will draw them to Jesus, How can it be the same as John 6:44 when John 6:44 says: "No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day." Can't you understan what it means "I will raise him up at the last day" ? It means Jesus will save him.. Can you see now the difference between John 12:32 and John 6:44?
Why do you think "sealing with the Holy Spirit" is the same thing as being "born again"? It is not. See Galatians 4:5-7. Also you conveniently left out verse 11 "In him we have obtained an inheritance having been predestined according to him who works all things according to the counsel of his will."
2 Peter 3:9 God desires that none should perish but that ALL would come to repentance...John 12:32 and Jesus says ...If I be lifted up I will draw ALL men unto myself. Gods desire is now and has always been to redeem all of mankind, he desires that no one would perish. The tragic truth is the vast majority of humanity will perish because they're deceived and for the most part want to depend upon their own righteousness rather that call upon Jesus Christ. Washer slanders the character of the Lord with the implication that God predestines certain humans to hell. Washer is preaching and teaching a doctrine of demons.
John 3:16-19 English Standard Version For God So Loved the World 16 “For God so loved the world,[a] that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. 17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him. 18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God. 19 And this is the judgment: the light has come into the world, and people loved the darkness rather than the light because their works were evil.
Romans 1: 7 To all who are in Rome loved by God called to be saints. So that means some in Rome He did not love. It also means those He loved became saints, an effectual call. john 3:16 does not say "God loved the world so much... " This is a indicative statement and it means "this is HOW God loves the world" The end of the verse is also indicative and says " all the believing ones will be saved" These are not imperative commands so I will link a short video to explain John 3:16 properly. It is so true that all the anti calvinists just throw a couple verses out with no context or proper hermeneutics applied. ruclips.net/video/BDxRss_v78A/видео.html
@davevandervelde, WHAT is the BIBLICAL Docrtrine of ELECTION and PREDESTINA TION? Jesus revealed this doctrine of Election and Predestination in the parable of Wheat and Tares In this parable, Jesus revealed the doctrine of election and pre destination..and who are those people who are predestined to be saved, and those predestined to be burned in the lake of fire.. Jesus revealed in this parable that those who are predestined to be saved are the children of God literally.. And those who are predestined to be cast to the Lake of fire are the children of the devil literally.. Adam and his descendants are the children of God because Adam is a true son of God as revealed in Luke 3:38... Cain and his descendants are the children of the devil because Cain is the seed of the serpent(devil) as mentioned in Genesis 3:15... Cain is not the son of Adam, he is not included in the Genealogy of Adam in Genesis 5... Cain has his own Genealogy in Genesis 4.. all the descendants of Cain are very evil people like him... Jesus revealed in this parable also that there are only 2 kinds of people in the world, they are the children of God literally and the children of the devil literally The children of God are called Elect, and the children of the devil are called reprobates... Sometimes Jesus called the Elect Sheep and the Reprobate Goat.. All the Elect are predestined to be saved, and all the Reprobates are predestine to be burned in the Lake of Fire... Jesus gave His Life only for the Sheep(Elect) John 10:15 EXAMPLE of the children of the devil can be found in John 8:44 EXAMPLE of the children of God can be found in Psalm 82:6 and in Romans 8:14.. Having the knowledge of the Parable of Wheat and Tares can answer the age-old Mystery of what will happen to a newly born child who died or to the unborn fetus who died in the womb.. GOD BLESS YOU ALL WHO BELIEVES IN THIS REVELATION OF JESUS IN THE PARABLE OF WHEAT and TARES...
1st of all the one who upload this video is not fair.. When your pastor speak, it is very clear to understand what he is speaking, but when Paul washer speaks there many noises that can blur what Paul Washer is speaking, that is not Christianity...
Thank you, exposing Paul brainwasher. Calvinism always falls apart when held up to scripture. They have to ignore so many clear passages and do so much twisting, just easy to use a movie than scripture. I didn’t think a Calvinist if they were gloriously/truly saved could be carnal enough to watch lord of the rings?! Haha Got bless
@gem934, WHAT is the BIBLICAL Docrtrine of ELECTION and PREDESTINA TION? Jesus revealed this doctrine of Election and Predestination in the parable of Wheat and Tares In this parable, Jesus revealed the doctrine of election and pre destination..and who are those people who are predestined to be saved, and those predestined to be burned in the lake of fire.. Jesus revealed in this parable that those who are predestined to be saved are the children of God literally.. And those who are predestined to be cast to the Lake of fire are the children of the devil literally.. Adam and his descendants are the children of God because Adam is a true son of God as revealed in Luke 3:38... Cain and his descendants are the children of the devil because Cain is the seed of the serpent(devil) as mentioned in Genesis 3:15... Cain is not the son of Adam, he is not included in the Genealogy of Adam in Genesis 5... Cain has his own Genealogy in Genesis 4.. all the descendants of Cain are very evil people like him... Jesus revealed in this parable also that there are only 2 kinds of people in the world, they are the children of God literally and the children of the devil literally The children of God are called Elect, and the children of the devil are called reprobates... Sometimes Jesus called the Elect Sheep and the Reprobate Goat.. All the Elect are predestined to be saved, and all the Reprobates are predestine to be burned in the Lake of Fire... Jesus gave His Life only for the Sheep(Elect) John 10:15 EXAMPLE of the children of the devil can be found in John 8:44 EXAMPLE of the children of God can be found in Psalm 82:6 and in Romans 8:14.. Having the knowledge of the Parable of Wheat and Tares can answer the age-old Mystery of what will happen to a newly born child who died or to the unborn fetus who died in the womb.. GOD BLESS YOU ALL WHO BELIEVES IN THIS REVELATION OF JESUS IN THE PARABLE OF WHEAT and TARES...
Washer's unbiblical ideology is Doom and Gloom. So depressing. Thank you brother Jesse for opening the KJV Bible to refute his nonsense. Keep preaching and teaching the Truth! 🤗🙏🏻
0:15 You have not? Great Christian _Existintialism_ . Non Coninical. Yes. Obvioisly it is self-insert fan-fiction about the fallen pre antideluvian. But- it- is- fabulous. Purely, purely, purely. As entertainment and extra-textual. Thematically? It is like, a 1 to 16 recreation of the first moments of time and creation and its, wild once you see it. Not even the trilogy, specifically the Silmarillion. The man knows his mythos. I'm pretty much just dedicated to electing Tolkien Posthumously to, "Prophet, Honorary; Creative Re Imagining Department." For his work on Halflings and Orcs. The Best, and Worst of mortal beings. Tertiary Goals. Its the simple things.
@@BibleLine, Galatians 3:26, "For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus." So where did you get this faith? Why don't others don't have faith to believe? Why are you special than others?
@@BibleLine, In the parable of Wheat and Tares, Jesus revealed that there are only 2 kinds of people in the world, the children of God and the children of the devil.. Therefore you are born either the child of God or child of the devil, Jesus also revealed in this parable that all the children of God will be saved and all the children of the devil will be burned in fire.. Therefore the reason why you believe and are saved is because you are a child of God.. All the child of God have faith to believe because they inherit the character of their Father God.. This is the biblical truth.. on the other hand, the children of the devil don't have faith to believe because they inherited the character of their Father the devil.. In John 8:44 Jesus said: "Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it." Judas is a son of the devil, He don't have faith to believe and he don't know how to repent, He prefered to hang himself.. He is the descendant of Cain the seed of the serpent in Genesis 3:15...
Ephesians 2 states very clearly that the believers in Ephesus were dead in trespasses and sins, and they walked according to the “prince of the power of the air.” Everyone is born physically into this world as a child of the devil. You only become a child of God (spiritually) when you choose to believe in the Son of God who died for your sin. Hence Gal. 3:26, John 1:11-12, and John 3:1-18 This faith is for anyone to exercise. Everyone has capability to believe, but some choose not to believe. - Trent
When you know the Bible, it is easy to follow Paul Washer arguments and what he is really saying. That doesnt mean that what he is saying is not true, but it is what he belives in. Then there is also this thing in the Word of God that speaks on strife. Proverbs 20:3 It is an honor for a man to keep aloof from strife, but every fool will be quarreling. I think you should mediate on this.
We cannot base the Bible on our beliefs, but we base our beliefs on the Bible. We have nothing against Washer’s person. We did not strife with him. We deny his false doctrine. The scripture is clear. God does not pick and choose. Salvation is free to all. - Trent
@@BibleLine it is interesting that we humans dictate what God choses to do and not. Salvation is free to all, no doubt. Isaiah 55:8-11 [8]"For My thoughts are not your thoughts, Nor are your ways My ways," declares the Lord. [9]"For as the heavens are higher than the earth, So are My ways higher than your ways And My thoughts than your thoughts. [10]"For as the rain and the snow come down from heaven, And do not return there without watering the earth And making it bear and sprout, And furnishing seed to the sower and bread to the eater; [11]So will My word be which goes forth from My mouth; It will not return to Me empty, Without accomplishing what I desire, And without succeeding in the matter for which I sent it.
@@BibleLine The Bible clearly states all throughout it that God picks and chooses his people. You may think it’s your choice but if you’re seeking God it’s because he’s drawing you to Him.
Hey man good presentation. I do understand Paul washers position and I think you're kind of talking passed each other he meant to say that men on their own without the aid of the Holy Spirit don't come to Christ. And that's true the scripture says our flesh is at enmity with God and cannot be made conformable to God's ways. In that quote of the interview that was shot with somebody's phone or whatnot he just wasn't saying what he said and many other places. To be careful not to judge people in off the cuff comments that are either taken out of context or not the complete teaching that they represent I've watched enough of Paul to know that that's what he has said in other places in would say if you were to question him directly. I don't think what he says the position he holds is opposite of what you said about god-loving the whole world but God loving the whole world does not mean that the world loves him back reciprocally. So we have it both and not in either or am I pray that we would all be showing the world a loving side of Christ by not condemning without Mercy or showing Mercy in an unbiblical way where God ends up being the excuse of those who are unrepentantly guilty. I'm not saying you're doing that Brother but that we need to be lovingly accurate about what the other one is saying. I've kind of gotten beyond the whole calvinist Arminian debate. I truly believe that both positions are right in what they affirm & wrong in what they deny. Have you considered that possibility ?
Arminians believe you must maintain works, or salvation can be lost. We love the people who believe this, but we reject such teaching. Calvinists believe God forces His hand by picking some to go to hell and some to go to heaven. They also believe works are evidence of salvation. Again, we love these people, but we reject that position. Washer said exactly what he believes. We love him as a person for whom Christ died, but we fully reject that position. Paul said to let those who preach a false gospel be “accursed.” Gal. 1:8-9 - Trent
Seems you're agreeing with Paul Washer, but sticking to it's all man's choice. It's very hard to comprehend, because i too struggle a lot with it. But as you said and wholly agree, is that without the Holy Spirit (1/3 of the triune God) acting in your life you can't come to God. And that's why dead men can't save themselves and we are dead in our sin until God works in our lives through the Holy Spirit. So, it seems you're arguing against Paul, but stating many of his points. I, like you, believe men have that choice.... But without God first acting and drawing us through the Holy Spirit, we stand against Him and are pure evil. (Paul's point) So you're arguing point 2 in the process while Paul is talking about point 1. And to all my brothers calling Paul Washer a false teacher, please watch your hearts. It's what comes out of a man that defiles him (Matt 15:11)..... they honor me with their lips, but their heart is far from me (Matt 15:8) Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name? (Matt 7:22) do not be against the work of the Lord as you yourselves are creating division in the body of Christ. Mark 9:38-40... Do not stop him, for no one who does a mighty work in my name will be able to soon afterward to speak evil of me And as Paul (the apostle) wrote in 1 Cor 3:4-9 regarding i follow Paul, i follow Apollos.... You follow neither, you follow Christ, they are the servants through whom you believed. Stop picking fights with Christians who believe the true gospel and preach Repentance, and seek with all discernment the wolves in sheeps clothing, trying to destroy them bride of Christ, and that is NOT Paul Washer, definitely not in the clip used. Stay the course, and run the race with perseverence seeking the souls that are lost without the gospel.
Faith is not a work. Everyone can believe or not believe, and if one chooses to believe; it does not mean they worked for their salvation… God desires all men to be saved, wants all to come to repentance, and he draws all men by the cross. God does the saving when a man believes. God justifies when a man believes. God gives eternal life when a man believes. Jesus did the work, and all a man has to do is believe in Him. - Trent
Pastor, Election and Predestination is God electing some people from the rest and predestined them to be saved. It is a biblical doctrine but the Calvinist did not understand it correctly.. I will send you the correct and bilical doctrine in my next comment under this comment...
WHAT is the BIBLICAL Docrtrine of ELECTION and PREDESTINA TION? Jesus revealed this doctrine of Election and Predestination in the parable of Wheat and Tares In this parable, Jesus revealed the doctrine of election and pre destination..and who are those people who are predestined to be saved, and those predestined to be burned in the lake of fire.. Jesus revealed in this parable that those who are predestined to be saved are the children of God literally.. And those who are predestined to be cast to the Lake of fire are the children of the devil literally.. Adam and his descendants are the children of God because Adam is a true son of God as revealed in Luke 3:38... Cain and his descendants are the children of the devil because Cain is the seed of the serpent(devil) as mentioned in Genesis 3:15... Cain is not the son of Adam, he is not included in the Genealogy of Adam in Genesis 5... Cain has his own Genealogy in Genesis 4.. all the descendants of Cain are very evil people like him... Jesus revealed in this parable also that there are only 2 kinds of people in the world, they are the children of God literally and the children of the devil literally The children of God are called Elect, and the children of the devil are called reprobates... Sometimes Jesus called the Elect Sheep and the Reprobate Goat.. All the Elect are predestined to be saved, and all the Reprobates are predestine to be burned in the Lake of Fire... Jesus gave His Life only for the Sheep(Elect) John 10:15 EXAMPLE of the children of the devil can be found in John 8:44 EXAMPLE of the children of God can be found in Psalm 82:6 and in Romans 8:14.. Having the knowledge of the Parable of Wheat and Tares can answer the age-old Mystery of what will happen to a newly born child who died or to the unborn fetus who died in the womb.. GOD BLESS YOU ALL WHO BELIEVES IN THIS REVELATION OF JESUS IN THE PARABLE OF WHEAT and TARES...
Brother, tares are tares because they do not believe. Wheat is wheat because they do believe. John 3:18 is very clear. The choice is free to all. 1 John 2:2 is also clear that ALL sin of ALL people of ALL time was paid, but not all believe. See also Romans 3:22 - "unto all and upon all them that believe." - Trent
It’s dishonest and sinful to take a clip and spin it to say something the other person isn’t saying. Be honest and show what Washer actually teaches. Your credibility is shot. And you use the parable to give meaning that it doesn’t mean. You miss the entire point.
We didn’t spin his words lol. I literally listened and listened, and I put subtitles there. Washer says it very clearly, and we responded. That’s not dishonest. Did you watch both parts?? He’s believed God picks and chooses who is saved, and who is not. - Trent
Yes, but God did NOT love every human being with a "redemptive" love. If he did love everyone that way, then everyone would go to heaven. "...thou shall call his name Jesus, for he shall save HIS people from there sins" Matt 1:21. Not Everyone! So the verses that you quote, though they are absolutely true, are ONLY referring to the ones that GOD has saved from the foundation of the world. Redemptively, it does NOT apply to the rest Listen very carefully to Christ's prayer to the Father in Rev 17, before his crucifixion. He says, he prays" NOT for the world, but for them that God has given to him." Read it! And know the God means business when he says it! Listen to God when he describes OUR hearts as, "deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked." Jer 17:9 . Listen also, how God describes us before conversion, and read Mark 7:21-23. So we are, by nature wicked people not because Washer said it, but because God says it! Still don't believe it? Then you have NO intention in listening to God and I feel sorry for you.
Yes, He shall “save his people.” Unsaved people aren’t saved. The reason they aren’t saved isn’t because God didn’t love them. He does - John 3:16. He didn’t come to condemn them - John 3:17 - but he came to save them too. It’s just that they will go to hell for one reason - they didn’t believe in Him - John 3:18. - Trent
@BibleLine @BibleLine People will come under the wrath of God because they were not elected by God, not because they didn't believe or accept. The bible is clear that there is none that seeketh him, there is none righteous, no not one. An unsaved person is DEAD in trespasses and sins, and he could never know God in a way that's pleasing to God. The reason Christ didn't come to condemn is because the entire human race is already condemned. If God's will was to save everyone, then everyone would be saved. Salvation is independent of your will. We are condemned at the moment of conception. That's why an infant with no knowledge of salvation is still in trouble with God and needs to be saved of God. After all, they could die as an infant and would need their sins paid for as well. Right there should show you that it's NOT our desire for salvation that saves us. But if you believe in man's free will, as many do, you would never hear this message.
@@BibleLineSo the only reason anyone goes to hell is because they don’t believe the gospel correct? Nothing you have done in past, present, or future will send you there expect not believing?
Jay that is correct. You notice the individual above completely denies the truth of John 3, especially verse 18, in order to fit a Calvinistic view. Choosing has nothing to do with going to heaven or hell. I know I’m saved because I chose to believe in the Savior. - Trent
We aren’t bashing the man, but we deny his message. We really do pray for and try to reach the men in these videos. Salvation is not dependent upon my actions, so you would be correct if the opposite were true. Salvation is free according to the scriptures. Please feel free to email us questions@biblelineministries.org. We are open to discussion of any kind. Have you noticed, I (Trent the editor) prefer to respond to the comments that usually refute us? - Trent
Pastor, you are ridiculing Paul Washer to say that he is wrong and boasting that you are right and laughing as if you have got some special revelation from God. Do you think that Paul washer is less intelligent or less holy or less serious than you? Then how do you know that he is wrong? He uses the same bible you use. So it is very clear that your position is very weak and funny.
We didn’t ridicule him, nor did we attack his character and intelligence. He is a very smart man. We would be first to admit his amount of knowledge (correct or not) is much greater than ours… We do not boast in ourselves. I’m unsure why you think this. Does he use the KJV? I’m curious, I’ll research that. You seem like you’re always out to attack our character… I suppose the fruit inspecting position must do that. - Trent
@BibleLine "Turn your attention upon yourself and beware of judging the Deeds of other men, for in judging others a man Labor's vainly, often makes mistakes and easily sins, whereas, in judging and taking stock of himself he does something that is always profitable. If we frequently judge that things are as we wish them to be, for through personal feeling true perspective is easily lost . If God were the sole object of our desire, we should not be disturbed so easily by opposition to our opinions. But often something lurks within or happens from without to draw us along with it" Thomas a` Kempis
Blessed is the man WHOM YOU CHOOSE, AND CAUSES TO APPROACH UNTO YOU, THAT HE MAY DWELL IN YOUR COURTS: WE SHALL BE SATISFIED WITH THE GOODNESS OF YOUR HOUSE (O YEHOVAH YESHUA), EVEN OF YOUR HOLY TEMPLE. BY TERRIBLE THINGS IN RIGHTEOUSNESS WILL YOU SAVE US, O GOD OF OUR SALVATION; WHO ARE THE CONFIDENCE OF ALL THE ENDS OF THE EARTH, AND OF THEM THAT AFAR OFF UPON THE SEA (S-E-E, THE VATICAN AND LUCIFER. SEE "LUCIFER'S TEMPLE UNDER THE VATICAN"). Exodus 6:2-3, Psalm 132:11, Isaiah 9:6, Jeremiah 49:19 & 50:44, Malachi 3:1, Matthew 1:21 (Joel 3:6) Yeshua (FOR YeHoVaH WILL SAVE, John 4:25-26 THE MESSIAH, 10:22-38 THE FATHER, 14:6-11 THE FATHER, 1Corinthians 15:47 YESHUA IS YEHOVAH FROM HEAVEN, 2Corinthians 5:19 TO WIT, THAT YEHOVAH WAS IN THE BODY OF YESHUA RECONCILING THE WORLD/ADAMKIND UNTO HIMSELF, Hebrews 9:12 BY HIS OWN BLOOD OBTAINED OUR ETERNAL REDEMPTION FOR US!, The REVELATION 1:8 YESHUA IS YEHOVAH, THE MIGHTY GOD, ETERNAL FATHER!!, WHO HAS BECOME OUR SALVATION! Psalm 118:14, Isaiah 12:2 "BEHOLD, GOD IS MY SALVATION: I will trust, and not be afraid: for the LORD, YEHOVAH, is my STRENGTH AND MY SONG; HE IS ALSO BECOME MY SALVATION. ITS TIME TO STOP BEING DECEIVED!!! Joel 3:6, Isaiah 66:, Jeremiah 51:, Isaiah 13:, Revelation 17:4-6 & 18:4-6.
John 3:16 and Acts 16:31 provide that salvation is available to all who believe. Matthew 7:13 is about the single, narrow way of salvation-belief in Christ alone. All other false gospels, and works-based religions that rely on human effort to be saved, are the broad way that leads to destruction.
Washer is one of the most deceptive false teachers. Even though I was already saved, for several years I got caught up listening for hours to teachers like him, and it eventually lead to extreme anxiety and fear that I might not be saved. People like him preach “you must do enough good works or turn from certain sins, and if you don’t maybe you didn’t truly believe.” I believe the Holy Spirit led me to ministries like yours, that preach the clear gospel of grace by faith. Thank you for your videos and I pray that they will help others come to faith and also help them in their walk after they are saved.
How did it lead to fear and anxiety? He gives me great assurance. For I know how I was before being born again and know how I am now.
@@williamwagoner7857 While Washer may have some or even many elements of truth in his sermons, Washer seems to focus more on the sinner and what they must do or continue to do, than the savior. Now we should do works after we are saved: to honor God, and so that others may believe (Matthew 5:16, 28:19-20, Ephesians 2:10) and I’ll admit, I often feel like I don’t have much “fruit” in my life and want to grow in that, but our fruit or behavior doesn’t save us. The only thing that saves us is trusting that Jesus paid for our sin and rose again.
And the fear and the anxiety came from looking at my life and not seeing hardly any “fruit bearing”, even though deep down I think I knew I was saved. And even if I were a missionary and doing many things to serve the Lord, Washer and his Calvinist friends will never tell you when you’ve done enough because of their “perseverance of the saints” doctrine. And frankly, it is true that no amount of works is good enough in the eyes of God. (Romans 4:4-5)
@@williamwagoner7857 How does a Calvinist "know" they re not simply experiencing "Evanescent Grace"? And that the faith they believe God has given them is not meant to last, by God's decree?
@@R.L.KRANESCHRADTT Only time can truly tell if someone has truly believed or not.
Don't you love it when the truth is taught? Pastor Jesse is committed to teaching the truth of God's Word no matter what the cost. Praise God!
amen.
Election and Predestination is God elect some people from the rest and predestined them to be saved. It is a biblical doctrine but it is not the way Calvin understand it.. I'll show you the biblical doctrine of election and predestination in a comment under this comment...
He cannot believe that God will save any sinner that just believes. He doesn't believe in "whosoever" and "all should come to repentance." To him it's just not fair. Thank God He doesn't give us what's fair.
@TheShadow. 1,
Any sinner that believes are the elect, But other sinners will not believe, therefore they cannot be saved and they are called reprobates...
That's why Jesus said that few can be saved because there are more reprobates than elect..
Matthew 7:13-14..
@TheShadow. 1,
WHAT is the BIBLICAL Docrtrine
of ELECTION and PREDESTINA
TION?
Jesus revealed this doctrine of
Election and Predestination in
the parable of Wheat and Tares
In this parable, Jesus revealed
the doctrine of election and pre
destination..and who are those
people who are predestined to
be saved, and those predestined
to be burned in the lake of fire..
Jesus revealed in this parable
that those who are predestined
to be saved are the children of
God literally..
And those who are predestined
to be cast to the Lake of fire
are the children of the devil
literally..
Adam and his descendants are
the children of God because
Adam is a true son of God as
revealed in Luke 3:38...
Cain and his descendants are
the children of the devil
because Cain is the seed of the
serpent(devil) as mentioned in
Genesis 3:15...
Cain is not the son of Adam, he
is not included in the Genealogy
of Adam in Genesis 5...
Cain has his own Genealogy in
Genesis 4.. all the descendants
of Cain are very evil people like
him...
Jesus revealed in this parable
also that there are only 2 kinds
of people in the world, they are
the children of God literally and
the children of the devil literally
The children of God are called
Elect, and the children of the
devil are called reprobates...
Sometimes Jesus called the
Elect Sheep and the Reprobate
Goat.. All the Elect are
predestined to be saved, and
all the Reprobates are
predestine to be burned in the
Lake of Fire...
Jesus gave His Life only for the
Sheep(Elect) John 10:15
EXAMPLE of the children of the
devil can be found in John 8:44
EXAMPLE of the children of God
can be found in Psalm 82:6 and
in Romans 8:14..
Having the knowledge of the
Parable of Wheat and Tares
can answer the age-old
Mystery of what will happen
to a newly born child who
died or to the unborn fetus
who died in the womb..
GOD BLESS YOU ALL WHO
BELIEVES IN THIS REVELATION
OF JESUS IN THE PARABLE
OF WHEAT and TARES...
God will save any sinner who believes. But any sinner who believes has been chosen by God.
So only those who God chooses can believe? @@williamwagoner7857
@@reynaldodavid2913Joyes so it’s basically whoever believes… will be saved and others won’t ,
But calvinists say a person cannot even believe, God has to force them .. then it’s not fair because the once that are not forced just perish.
Paul Washers teaching and the way he exposits the word, by Gods grace, has brought me out of a pietistic funk I've been in for some time now. Realizing I cannot please God and that Christ HAS already pleased God has been so freeing. Believing on this finished work is what pleases Him and inspires love and obedience and the fruit of the Spirit. This is something my mind, left to itself, would be completely unable to realize. The natural man receives not the things of God nor can he understand them.
How old was paul then 20 25
Paul Washer's alternative to John 3:16...For God so hated the world, that He picked just a very few people to be saved, and rejoiced while watching everyone else fry for eternity.
I’ve been going through a similar struggle because I don’t get what Romans means when it says “God hated Esau”. It makes me think God must hate me or I’m destined for Hell no matter what, but watching these makes me think I’ve listened too much to Calvinism in my life
What is the proof of my salvation? 1 John 5:13 "These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God." That's the best proof I know of.
Don't be fooled. That's not proof at all. God wrote Matt 7:15-16 for a reason. It's a parable, but the lesson is clear. Those people in the parable "believed", and what was their outcome? The only assurance we can have is an ongoing desire to be obedient to the Word of God. We should find ourselves growing in the Lord more this year, than last year, and so on. That we hold the Bible as the Word of God and know when we read it, that's God speaking to us. That it's not a book of fairy tales and morality, but the power of God that leads to eternal life! Understand 1John 5, as all the scriptures, are written for the ones that God is planning to save, or has already saved. It's not written for the unsaved that God didn't choose. They will never see any truth in the Bible. Only, (from their vantage point) contradictions and inconsistencies. It's our Godly fearing of the truth of the Word that assures us of our personal relationship before all mighty God. The believer doesn't need proof, he already gets assurance.
@@victorcroker2765 Given a choice between a subjective assessment of my desire to be obedient to God and believing the promises of God, I'll choose God's promises.
Thank you guys for always making the Gospel clear. Also love the interviews!
The fact that a "man of God" should EVER have to use an analogy from anything other than just using the Word of God, should raise big Red FLAGS!!!
PW had all the answers laid out for him in the Bible to tell that young man about, but what did he do? Started talking about a movie full of magic and mysticism as an analogy. You can't make this stuff up. Smh
“ neither will they be persuaded though one rose from the dead.”
Perhaps it was a bad day. Perhaps Washer just wanted to be alone and not bothered.
I don't know...but there's no joy, light, life, or sparkle in his eyes.
In my opinion (and I'm no expert), he's weighed down by the guilt, unbelief, and inability to obtain the righteousness that he so strongly preaches about.
He goes about to establish his own righteousness because he doesn't understand the righteousness of God!!!
agree. Great explanation..
yes sir..@gregorylatta8159
I don't know how I feel about the whole Calvinist vs. Arminian debate, but I agree with you. He seems a little miserable. I feel bad for him & hope he is a real Christian
Calvinism is one of the most dangerous doctrines of our day!!!
Very true, and the teaching is everywhere!
@dough3821 As are most false doctrines. Most of Christendom practice works based salvation doctrine!!! The gate is narrow, and few will find it. The gate is Jesus alone!!!
@@gregorylatta8159Amen
you just quoted calvinism.@@gregorylatta8159
You cannot read the new testament and come to the conclusion that the doctrine called calvinism is not biblical.
Not only that, but the doctrine of election is an entirely God glorifying view of salvation where as anything contrary reserves some miniscule amount of glory for the decision of man. Dead men cannot "make a decision" and free will is an illusion. Not only from a theistic perspective but from a scientific one as well.
Thank you for this channel and all that you do god bless
Maybe also do a play list of some good preachers and teachers and reactions..
It’s an idea I’ve pondered! Part of that is the interviews we do.
- Trent
Wow 😲 washer just made my stomache turn. I feel bad for who was listening to him! He is building their foundation on sand.
Listening to Paul, one must really ask himself whether Paul knows the Bible, whether he knows the Gospels!?
07:48 The Spirit does not draw, He convicts (John 16:8). The Father draws (John 6:44) and the Son draws (John 12:32).
It is an unpersuasive claim that people who hate God will not jump at the chance to avoid hell.
The most hardened criminal, sitting in prison, understands the desirability of a full and free pardon.
Great vid! Do you have any vids where you talk about predestination or believers being referred to as the elect?
Another one regarding the will of man here. God works in you to will (in addition to John 1:12-13):
”Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling; for it is God who works in you both to will and to do for His good pleasure.“
Philippians 2:12-13 NKJV
“And so we have the prophetic word confirmed, which you do well to heed as a light that shines in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts; knowing this first, that no prophecy of Scripture is of any private interpretation, for prophecy never came by the will of man, but holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Spirit.” - II Peter 1:19-21 NKJV. So, by this account, when the prophets prophesied under the influence/inspiration of the Holy Spirit, were they being robots?
I have watched Paul Washer for the last 2 years and I am convinced that he preaches straight from the Bible regarding salvation, justification, sanctification and glorification. He loves the Gospel of Christ and what he means for good, some of you are seeing as bad. Specifically, when he makes you "doubt your salvation", he isn't being mean or acting out his "Calvinism". He means that just because you prayed the sinners prayer, that doesn't mean you are saved. That prayer or any other communication you may have with God must have involved the deposit of the Holy Spirit. If that had happened, then your life would have transformed over timev to become more like Christ and life was regenerated. Paul Washer simply says that you must have evidence of the fruits of your new life in Christ that is, desire to read his Word, wanting to fellowship with His people, less and less desire of the things of this world, wanting to confess our sins and humbling ourselves, have new relationship with sin so that when we sin, we ask for forgiveness right away, and we understand that God is most offended by our sin, we want to worship more. If you consider this newness of life as works then, that is not Biblical, we love like this new life because the indwelling Holy Spirit compels us to live such lives, not because we have to or out of obligation. These are some of the fruits of our new life in Christ. Paul Washer all days this kind of life style reflects our salvation in Christ. We still have temptation and sin but generally our course of life follows Christ. Its better that we all search our assurance of salvation on this earth before we enter eternity, which is too late because there is no purgatory. Fruits or evidence in our lives confirm if we belong to Christ and not whether we say we believe or we made a decision to follow Christ.
God's promise to all who believe is the evidence of salvation. If I can't rely on His promises to confirm my salvation then how are my pitiful attempts at good works going to prove anything?
@@TheShadow.1 When you’ve truly come under grace, the new birth.. not only do you have complete forgiveness of every sin.. but when you come in to Grace, sin will not rule over you anymore.. because your not under the old covenant law.. but your under the new covenant..
One way you can find out is.. I’ll present this one verse to you, and you give me the answer.. pay attention to this,
Romans 6:14 (KJV)
14 For sin shall not have dominion [rule] over you: for [because] ye are not under the law, but under grace.
So, two questions…
1. what is the evidence, proof that you’re under Grace?
- Sin does not rule over me… Correct!
2. Next question, what is the evidence or proof that you’re still under the law?
- Sin rules over me! Absolutely right..
law is old covenant… what is the proof that a lot of people reading this or hearing this are under the old covenant? Sin rules over you… Sin rules over you.
We’re not talking about sinless perfection… (1 John 1:8) nobody is sinless perfect… Christ alone is… there’s a difference, between falling hundred times a day, walking in sin… and making a mistake.. messing up… and being grieved in chastised as it says in Hebrews, being brought back to the narrow path…
Beloved, Being redeemed makes you zealous of good works… in other words, you have a burning passion of fire that says, I wanna serve you, I want to obey you, I want to do good works, Oh Lord, I want to serve you… That’s the mark of the New Birth, not only absolute complete forgiveness of every sin no matter how dark. But, Redemption from a disobedient lifestyle.. Redemption from your old cultural lifestyle… sin does not rule you…
So, when sin rules over you beloved, you are under the old covenant, you are under law… you have not understood grace at all…
@@rubeno.2808 Indulge me for a moment. How many sins are to many before you realize you might be lost? How many good works does a person do before he has assurance that he's saved?
@@TheShadow.1 your feelings nor your passions interpret scripture beloved. Gods Word interprets Gods Word. Throw your feelings out when it contradicts scripture
@@rubeno.2808 That was my point.
You are saved hen you believe, so when you actually believe you show your fruits. You actually see a change. Works don’t save but when someone is actually saved they show their works because they love the Lord and actually want to please him. You will become a new creation.
Therefore, if you never show fruit/works, are you still saved??
Yes.
We should work and bear fruit, but it’s not automatic.
- Trent
@@BibleLine I automatically happens because we are a new creation in Christ Jesus.
“Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation. The old has passed away; behold, the new has come.”
2 Corinthians 5:17
“But you are not controlled by your sinful nature. You are controlled by the Spirit if you have the Spirit of God living in you.”
Romans 8:9
“Put off your old self, which belongs to your former manner of life and is corrupt through deceitful desires, and to be renewed in the spirit of your minds, and to put on the new self, created after the likeness of God in true righteousness and holiness.”
Ephesians 4:22-24
Jesus already did His part on the cross, but now we need to do our part.
Romans 6:4 says:
“We were buried therefore with Him by baptism into death, in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, we too might walk in newness of life.”
Romans 6:4
Remember Paul’s warning in Galatians 5:1:
“So Christ has truly set us free. Now make sure that you stay free, and don’t get tied up again in slavery to the law”.
Galatians 5:1
“Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind”
Romans 12:2
@@BibleLine when one has truly accepted Yeshua as Lord and Savior full heartedly, the fruits will gradually start becoming automatic or better yet from one’s own will because they want to please the Lord and show their love towards him. Instead of trying to attack a fellow brother in Christ I’d encourage to pray for him, Just as Jesus commanded us to do so.
That is just plain wrong. The Bible says Faith without works is dead. Works don’t save you but if you’re saved you will have works at some point.
We would either have to be perfect, or God is okay with occasionally sinning. If the Spirit takes over, you would be one of these two. Which is it? Or perhaps you have a fully fledged flesh nature AND a perfect new spirit nature.
They war in you, but YOU choose whom ye serve.
- Trent
Many times I have given the gospel to my parents and no evidence of salvation. I began to realize that it's never gonna be the amount or right gospel or evidence that will make them see. The word of God and reality of man is real. He is dead until made alive. Not by human will or force but God alone through Jesus Christ.
They preached in St Paul's day. They heard and believed. Simple. Some went off to other gospels which aren't. Some didn't..
I struggle to know if i am saved. Am i saved when I believe regardless of anything I have done in the past? There is nothing I can do to eliminate the grace of god where I would do anything else besides believe to be saved correct?
Yes. If you have believed, Jay, you are saved.
It would be foolish for you to continue in sin, but if you do; you still have salvation. You may face chastening from the Father, or you will miss out on rewards in heaven. This is the obvious result of a believer living carnally. Read 1 Cor. 3 for more clarity on this - notice the Corinthians were saved.
- Trent
@@BibleLine thank you again I’m sorry again but i have heard so many people say something you do adds a requirement and I’m trying to get that out of my head I really appreciate your help though god bless you
It just makes me cringe to even watch/listen to Paul Washer!!! He is so deeply deceived! Thank you pastor Jesse, and Trent, for leading people to the truth...to what the BIBLE says, not man-made heresies!!!
How so? You please explain. I’m sure Paul washer is a sound doctrine preacher.
Man made heresy is choosing to take John 3:16 out of context of the rest of the Bible. Faith is a gift from God.
Amen! Amen! Amen!
Can you explain Psalms 32:1-5? It sounds like confession or acknowledgment of our sins. Is this important? I believe that Jesus died on the cross for my sins, but are we supposed to know that we're sinners and need God's grace?
The passage is a prayer from David to the Lord. The statement in the beginning is actually used in Romans 4. Do we need to understand we are sinners? Yes. Do we have to confess all the sin to God to be saved? Of course not. That’s for the already saved individual’s fellowship with the Lord.
The unbeliever needs enough information to understand that they should believe in Christ. Nonetheless, we do not add to or overcomplicate things.
- Trent
There is one point missing from this text in Luke that is glaring. The rich man never repented of his sin, neither did he demonstrate or even claim that he would seek to love the Lord his God. All that he asked fkr was physical relief from his torment, finger tip of water v24. And mental relief that his brothers would not enter into that torment v28. There is no sign of remorse over his life nor any demonstration of a changed heart towards God. Its just not in the text.
How do you explain John 6:44 in response to what you said in 11:53? “No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws them, and I will raise them up at the last day."
John 12:32 explains John 6:44. Jesus draws ALL men by the cross. He draws by the cross. The Spirit convicts people of sin, righteousness and judgment - He is always leading people to the cross. He puts the individual in a place where they must choose.
- Trent
Here is a legitimate question, if God does not let you choose the gift then is it a gift? No, it’s forced upon you. In other words, the love is forced and we become the robots designed for that function. It is by grace we are saved, through faith. What saves? Grace of Christ on a wretched man whose blood was poured out
You choose whether or not to accept the gift. Every person chooses either to believe in Christ or to reject Christ. That isn’t robotic.
- Trent
@@BibleLine I know, I was posing a question to Calvinists more than you, my apologies. I was pointing out that a free gift isn’t free by the logic used
My dad was blind and could read braille... Washer what the heck!
😆
Great video! While listening to this, 2 Cor. 11:3 popped into my mind right away. "But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ." Why would God make salvation so complicated if He wants everyone to be saved (as 1 Tim. 2:4 clearly states)? How can a loving God select only a small percentage of mankind to be saved and consign the rest to eternal torment without giving them an opportunity to believe? Furthermore, how does this teaching square with the biblical truth that God is no respecter of persons (Acts 10:34)?
Calvinism is one big fat contradiction, and it naturally leads to one of two outcomes. Either a person will look at their works and think they are performing well enough to prove that they are one of the elect, or they will look to their works and conclude that they are hopelessly lost. Either way, the Calvinist is looking to their works and not to the finished work of Jesus Christ on the cross.
@dough, Indeed God wants every one to be saved, Jesus Himself said that few can be saved..
Matthew 7:13-14..
Because most will not believe and they are called reprobates.. Those who believe are called the elect...
@dough,
WHAT is the BIBLICAL Docrtrine
of ELECTION and PREDESTINA
TION?
Jesus revealed this doctrine of
Election and Predestination in
the parable of Wheat and Tares
In this parable, Jesus revealed
the doctrine of election and pre
destination..and who are those
people who are predestined to
be saved, and those predestined
to be burned in the lake of fire..
Jesus revealed in this parable
that those who are predestined
to be saved are the children of
God literally..
And those who are predestined
to be cast to the Lake of fire
are the children of the devil
literally..
Adam and his descendants are
the children of God because
Adam is a true son of God as
revealed in Luke 3:38...
Cain and his descendants are
the children of the devil
because Cain is the seed of the
serpent(devil) as mentioned in
Genesis 3:15...
Cain is not the son of Adam, he
is not included in the Genealogy
of Adam in Genesis 5...
Cain has his own Genealogy in
Genesis 4.. all the descendants
of Cain are very evil people like
him...
Jesus revealed in this parable
also that there are only 2 kinds
of people in the world, they are
the children of God literally and
the children of the devil literally
The children of God are called
Elect, and the children of the
devil are called reprobates...
Sometimes Jesus called the
Elect Sheep and the Reprobate
Goat.. All the Elect are
predestined to be saved, and
all the Reprobates are
predestine to be burned in the
Lake of Fire...
Jesus gave His Life only for the
Sheep(Elect) John 10:15
EXAMPLE of the children of the
devil can be found in John 8:44
EXAMPLE of the children of God
can be found in Psalm 82:6 and
in Romans 8:14..
Having the knowledge of the
Parable of Wheat and Tares
can answer the age-old
Mystery of what will happen
to a newly born child who
died or to the unborn fetus
who died in the womb..
GOD BLESS YOU ALL WHO
BELIEVES IN THIS REVELATION
OF JESUS IN THE PARABLE
OF WHEAT and TARES...
Because true faith leads to works. Not that works save you but true salvation has works. Faith without works is dead.
@@williamwagoner7857 Name a work that people can see that a lost person can't do. If a lost person can do works, then how can it be proof of salvation?
@@TheShadow.1 “Yea, a man may say, thou hast faith, and I have works: show me thy faith WITHOUT thy works, AND I WILL SHOW THEE MY FAITH BY MY WORKS” (James 2:18)
You can be lost and still do works. But if you were a selfish person before Christ who now has a desire to be selfless for Christ. That is evidence of salvation. It would depend upon the person though. I know plenty of generous lost people.
These people really make Salvation burdensome and it's not. Jesus even said my yolk is easy and my burden is light. Come unto me all you who are weary and heavy laden and I'll give you rest. Mankind has the ability to choose or reject God. Adam and Eve chose to disobey God in the garden. Satan chose to rebel against God. It has always been a matter of choice. Choose you this day who you will serve. It's not a matter of God choosing some and rejecting others. When the Gospel message goes forth, a person chooses whether or not they will accept it or reject it. The same offer is given to all of humanity. Jesus paid the price for our sin. Will we accept that and believe and trust in Him alone for Salvation or reject it. It's just really that simple
Yes! Well stated.
- Trent
I see Washer’s focus on all this total depravity stuff as a kind of false humility. He sees himself as a greater Christian because he’s so aware of what a horrible human he was born as. Humility is a Christ like character. Anything false is not.
Jesus raising Lazarus from the dead is not an example of predestined election. That's not what that whole biblical account was about.
Most of Calvanism is bunk. However, even a broken clock is right twice a day. I think the best way to explain "chosen" is that God, as an eternal being, has seen our lives play out. He knows whose are His. He therefore has chosen us to mold as clay, to refine as gold. He knows us before we are born because He is an eternal being. It is written that no one can claim that Jesus is Lord except that he is called by the Holy Spirit to do that. Chosen. So, yes, we all get to choose God/Jesus or not. However, God compels us, calls us, to Himself because He knows us and chose us. ✝️🕊️💗
Wow, “Eragon” and “Orcs”.
AraGORN and Uruk-Hai.
Also, he totally misses the point of LoTR. Men are the reason why the world is falling apart. Yet, they unit and push the forces of darkness back to Mordor. But the unlikely of heroes, Frodo takes the burden of the One Ring and destroys it for the greater good.
You forgot the mention the second half of John 1:12. Let’s complete it for you:
”But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name: who were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.“
John 1:12-13 NKJV
Aka, they were not born of the will of man but of God.
Man can’t come to God unless there is a work of God in them to. Think about this, could Israel have accepted Jesus? No they couldn’t have because the prophecy wouldn’t have been fulfilled. God is in control not men’s choices.
Washer is right. All men reject God until He makes them alive. The whosoever are those who have eyes to see and ears to hear which is also given to men by God's free will. Amen.
You know I've asked many ppl who believe in irresistible grace as your describing,and ever one of those ppl all think God wants their family and children saved. But if what you say is true, most of those family members and children are Not chosen to salvation. And my question is, does that bother you? And if it's your child, would it bother you?
sometimes i feel like the rich man in Hell, when I say to GOD "please send someone to tell them LORD (Just not me of course...)"
Lets get a couple of things straight. First the story of the rich man and Lazarus is simply a story and NOT a parable. This story was directed at a certain group of people, the Priest more specifically the High Priest who happened to have five brothers.
Second, no one is in or going to Heaven. You will not find that anywhere in the Bible. It does say where Christ is we will be with him but that's not until the first resurrection.
Third, no one is in Hell or the lake of fire. The great white throne of judgement hasn't happened so everyone is still in their grave from Adam to King David to Peter and anyone else that has ever died.
Do you mean that their bodies are in the grave but their spirits are with the lord ?
The Bible does mention that it might be possible for even the( elect )to be decieved ? Something to that effect .
Indeed. This is often overlooked.
- Trent
If all people can be saved? Why did Jesus said that only few can be saved? Matthew 7:13-14..
You have the whosoever wills and the whosoever won'ts. Regrettably, I think the wills are outnumbered.
@@TheShadow.1 ,
Please read
Matthew 7:13-14
@@reynaldodavid2913Jo I read it. What is your point?
@@TheShadow.1, Did you not say, I think the wills are outnumbered? I don't really understand what you say because your sentence is incomplete, but I presumed that you mean, those who will to be saved are more than those who don't will to be saved.. becuse I already sent that few will be saved.. I should be the one to ask you what is your point because your sentence was not understandable...
@@reynaldodavid2913Jo Jesus said more people will be lost than saved. I was agreeing with him.
Brother I think you and brother Washer agree on so much and what you disagree on is a matter of perspective and arguments could be made for both. I’m sure you would agree that salvation isn’t about you choosing Jesus but Jesus choosing you. It’s why things like the sinners prayer doesn’t work. It CAN work but not everyone who says it is truly saved. Why attack others who preach the same gospel as you but whom you might have slight differences?
I don’t agree with Calvinism but Paul Washer is my favorite Calvinist. He preaches regeneration and sanctification. Which free grace doesn’t. 😗
Regeneration does happen upon belief. You receive the Holy Spirit, and he regenerates your dead spirit to life. You now have a regenerated spirit that cannot sin. It is that your flesh still sins (ie the body you see - the spirit is not seen). Sanctification is taught 3 fold:
1) Positional Sanctification - we are immediately set apart in Christ the moment we believe (1 Cor. 6, Eph 1)
2) Practical Sanctification - we set ourselves apart daily by walking in the Spirit - this changes all the time (Gal. 5:16-23)
3) Permanent Sanctification - we are set apart in eternal life as perfect as Christ upon death or rapture (1 John 3:1-3)
Thanks
- Trent
@@BibleLine Well Trent, yes regeneration does happen when we believe. But the thing is a person places their faith in Christ through the Spirit’s conviction or the convincing of sin and judgment. It is the Spirit of God that grants repentance towards God and faith towards Jesus Christ. It’s the Spirit that gives life. This is a spiritual birth isn’t it? Just by having so called head knowledge without the Spirit giving life sounds like a spiritual stillborn, not a true spiritual birth. There must be heart felt contrition and heart felt repentance towards God. This is a work of the Spirit. Only the Spirit of God can change the heart of a sinner. A heart that loves sin is a heart that isn’t prepared for Heaven. Free Grace preachers typically change the meaning of repentance and encourage belief from the head, while the heart still loves sin… That sounds like a heart that is very far from God.
@@PurpleGiraffe9533I haven’t had true repentance yet. I guess God never cared about me
@@AmberDennis001 Why would you say that?
I like Washer but I do think Calvanism's issue is that it sits on one half of a paradox. It's not that he is wrong, but that he is half right to me in a lot of these points.
I realize I may need to elaborate on some of the thought I just made but yea...
The devil was partially right when he tempted Eve. A half truth is still a lie, all be it a subtle one, so there is no need for you to elaborate.
@@brian970 I think I am just slower to draw the line between error and False prophet. I think Washer would agree nobody is saved in anything but faith alone, he just puts the order of sanctification and faith on the eternal side of the paradox rather then the earthly one we live in. Ya know?
yea,,butt think of all the souls lost from him not understanding and not preaching The clear Gospel,,God didn't make the Gospel to be confusing..John3;16 Eph.2;8,9 God bless.
@jeht4J,
WHAT is the BIBLICAL Docrtrine
of ELECTION and PREDESTINA
TION?
Jesus revealed this doctrine of
Election and Predestination in
the parable of Wheat and Tares
In this parable, Jesus revealed
the doctrine of election and pre
destination..and who are those
people who are predestined to
be saved, and those predestined
to be burned in the lake of fire..
Jesus revealed in this parable
that those who are predestined
to be saved are the children of
God literally..
And those who are predestined
to be cast to the Lake of fire
are the children of the devil
literally..
Adam and his descendants are
the children of God because
Adam is a true son of God as
revealed in Luke 3:38...
Cain and his descendants are
the children of the devil
because Cain is the seed of the
serpent(devil) as mentioned in
Genesis 3:15...
Cain is not the son of Adam, he
is not included in the Genealogy
of Adam in Genesis 5...
Cain has his own Genealogy in
Genesis 4.. all the descendants
of Cain are very evil people like
him...
Jesus revealed in this parable
also that there are only 2 kinds
of people in the world, they are
the children of God literally and
the children of the devil literally
The children of God are called
Elect, and the children of the
devil are called reprobates...
Sometimes Jesus called the
Elect Sheep and the Reprobate
Goat.. All the Elect are
predestined to be saved, and
all the Reprobates are
predestine to be burned in the
Lake of Fire...
Jesus gave His Life only for the
Sheep(Elect) John 10:15
EXAMPLE of the children of the
devil can be found in John 8:44
EXAMPLE of the children of God
can be found in Psalm 82:6 and
in Romans 8:14..
Having the knowledge of the
Parable of Wheat and Tares
can answer the age-old
Mystery of what will happen
to a newly born child who
died or to the unborn fetus
who died in the womb..
GOD BLESS YOU ALL WHO
BELIEVES IN THIS REVELATION
OF JESUS IN THE PARABLE
OF WHEAT and TARES...
My understanding of choice in it's purity means go this way OR that way, he is not using the true meaning of the ability to do this, if Man will not or can not choose (a given) than you cannot use the word choice? it senseless....
I honestly don’t see how you all see Paul washer as a bad preacher 🤷🏽♂️ he speaks the Truth straight from the Bible along with John McArthur, Voddie Baucham Steven Lawson ect. unlike most pastors who preach heresy…I’m curious to who you all listen to. Because I who have been listening to washer & many others I don’t see any issues at all.
@OneMoment,
WHAT is the BIBLICAL Docrtrine
of ELECTION and PREDESTINA
TION?
Jesus revealed this doctrine of
Election and Predestination in
the parable of Wheat and Tares
In this parable, Jesus revealed
the doctrine of election and pre
destination..and who are those
people who are predestined to
be saved, and those predestined
to be burned in the lake of fire..
Jesus revealed in this parable
that those who are predestined
to be saved are the children of
God literally..
And those who are predestined
to be cast to the Lake of fire
are the children of the devil
literally..
Adam and his descendants are
the children of God because
Adam is a true son of God as
revealed in Luke 3:38...
Cain and his descendants are
the children of the devil
because Cain is the seed of the
serpent(devil) as mentioned in
Genesis 3:15...
Cain is not the son of Adam, he
is not included in the Genealogy
of Adam in Genesis 5...
Cain has his own Genealogy in
Genesis 4.. all the descendants
of Cain are very evil people like
him...
Jesus revealed in this parable
also that there are only 2 kinds
of people in the world, they are
the children of God literally and
the children of the devil literally
The children of God are called
Elect, and the children of the
devil are called reprobates...
Sometimes Jesus called the
Elect Sheep and the Reprobate
Goat.. All the Elect are
predestined to be saved, and
all the Reprobates are
predestine to be burned in the
Lake of Fire...
Jesus gave His Life only for the
Sheep(Elect) John 10:15
EXAMPLE of the children of the
devil can be found in John 8:44
EXAMPLE of the children of God
can be found in Psalm 82:6 and
in Romans 8:14..
Having the knowledge of the
Parable of Wheat and Tares
can answer the age-old
Mystery of what will happen
to a newly born child who
died or to the unborn fetus
who died in the womb..
GOD BLESS YOU ALL WHO
BELIEVES IN THIS REVELATION
OF JESUS IN THE PARABLE
OF WHEAT and TARES...
Psalm 5:5 and 7:11
Election is true even if you don’t believe
Paul washer is biblical and a sound pastor. Probably one of the most profound and accurate teachers to this day.
Sorry you've become convinced of that. For all his Christian bravado... this poor man doesn't even have assurance that he is saved because Calvinism doesn't afford it. Even R. C. Sproul affirmed that. The problem the Calvinist has is this; Since Calvinism contends no one can believe and respond positively to God apart from God's effectual act upon them against their will, (Sproul reluctantly agreed it is akin to 'spiritual rape' because the reprobate literally has no say in the matter), This is also true of anyone who leaves the faith or rejects Calvinism.
I’d say one would be hard pressed to suggest these prominent former Calvinists didn’t ‘understand’ TULIP. Here are a few recent well known and respected de-converts:
Tyler Vela, long-time popular Calvinist apologist, now denies Christ
Paul Maxwell, a former long-time associate of John Piper/ Desiring God writer and the author of the book The Trauma of Doctrine, has announced he is no longer a Christian.
Derek Webb, artistic apologist for Reformed theology for 10yrs in his work with Caedmon's and then in his solo albums, now denies Christ.
Joshua Harris, leading Calvinist pastor and author, fonder of Sovereign Grace Ministries, associate of Louis Giglio/’Passion movement’, left ministry and the faith altogether.
ALL of these people affirmed Christianity and Calvinism for many years... which they also affirmed was by God's decree, just as any Calvinist does. "Unconditional Election" is the Calvinist fundamental premise. However, now they have all abandoned their belief in Christ. And a Calvinist must affirm this is also only by God's decree. This means their entire Christian experience and testimony was only an episode of Evanescent Grace... their faith was fake.. by God' decree, and they had no idea.
John Calvin devised his theory of temporary/ ‘Evanescent Grace’ which teaches that God grants 'temporary/fake "faith" some which causes them to live convincingly 'as-if' they are saved. BUT God withdraws it later because he was just messing with their mind for his own amusement and never really loved them anyway. THAT is what Calvin taught and IT IS THE ONLY way to explain those who abandon their profession of faith within the parameters allowed by Calvinism. No man can profess Christ apart from God's decree and the same is true for those who later deny Christ.... As they like to say, "It's all God".🤷🏻♂ But you can never know if the faith you think you have is actually 'genuine' or not. This means Calvinists are encouraged to worship a God who, in the end, cannot be trusted to love any one individual…personally, certainly not themselves. If he did it to these studied, prominent, trusted, and respected Calvinists, you have no assurance God does not already have plans to do it to you. 🤔
The Calvinist can have no assurance of their election to salvation because Calvinism does not afford it. All one can do is search for 'evidence' of Christian activity (works) and cling to them like a broken plank form a sinking ship and "hope for the best" because that's all they have.
As for those who come out from under the fog of Calvinism and retain their faith in Christ, the single most common comment is along the lines of “I can’t believe I ever fell for it” Once you accept the false premise of Calvinism, all scripture must be first ‘filtered’ through TULIP and that which doesn’t ‘fit’ must be ‘massaged’ until it does, and that which cannot be made to fit is explained away or sacrificed on the alter or “mystery”. All this is done that the doctrine of TULIP may survive.
@Merkdawgm16,
I admire Paul Washer, for he knows many thing and very serious in his preaching,
But Calvin's election and predestinstion which he believes is wrong...
@Merkdawgm16,
WHAT is the BIBLICAL Docrtrine
of ELECTION and PREDESTINA
TION?
Jesus revealed this doctrine of
Election and Predestination in
the parable of Wheat and Tares
In this parable, Jesus revealed
the doctrine of election and pre
destination..and who are those
people who are predestined to
be saved, and those predestined
to be burned in the lake of fire..
Jesus revealed in this parable
that those who are predestined
to be saved are the children of
God literally..
And those who are predestined
to be cast to the Lake of fire
are the children of the devil
literally..
Adam and his descendants are
the children of God because
Adam is a true son of God as
revealed in Luke 3:38...
Cain and his descendants are
the children of the devil
because Cain is the seed of the
serpent(devil) as mentioned in
Genesis 3:15...
Cain is not the son of Adam, he
is not included in the Genealogy
of Adam in Genesis 5...
Cain has his own Genealogy in
Genesis 4.. all the descendants
of Cain are very evil people like
him...
Jesus revealed in this parable
also that there are only 2 kinds
of people in the world, they are
the children of God literally and
the children of the devil literally
The children of God are called
Elect, and the children of the
devil are called reprobates...
Sometimes Jesus called the
Elect Sheep and the Reprobate
Goat.. All the Elect are
predestined to be saved, and
all the Reprobates are
predestine to be burned in the
Lake of Fire...
Jesus gave His Life only for the
Sheep(Elect) John 10:15
EXAMPLE of the children of the
devil can be found in John 8:44
EXAMPLE of the children of God
can be found in Psalm 82:6 and
in Romans 8:14..
Having the knowledge of the
Parable of Wheat and Tares
can answer the age-old
Mystery of what will happen
to a newly born child who
died or to the unborn fetus
who died in the womb..
GOD BLESS YOU ALL WHO
BELIEVES IN THIS REVELATION
OF JESUS IN THE PARABLE
OF WHEAT and TARES...
@@reynaldodavid2913Jo how so? There is election. It’s clear in scripture how he has chosen his elect.
@reynaldodavid2913 which of the 5 points are wrong?
You might impress people who don't read their Bibles sir but you don't impress people who do. You are slow to hear, quick to speak and quick to anger.
8:30 I dont know who either of you are, I am a Diciple apart from the temple systems, homeless and with no head but my own headlessness.
This other guy isnt totally wrong.
He is just prideful so he isnt allowing himself to see his mistakes. Maybe, it seems.
But, you know? He is the truth of that statement, the painfully hard to understand truth;
"The Lord, by his nature. Knows at the moment of creation who will rise and who will fall because by his nature he is also at the end.
The Lord, by his nature. Had to begin, knowing personally. Who and how many, and why. So, by the nature and law of things. God, is in mourning for what he has done.
Knowing, ultimately it is a must-be-done as it is also inevitable and the only self-completed solution is completions by prophesy".
Aint it wierd how even After Jesus, the Father is like, "Im still claiming the Jews. Try and stop me, I declare against my own oaths, I will, claim my tribes despite all wisdom". Almost like, we are using loopholes alot here in the final ages. So, I wonder. What is, "Eternal Suffering in a Super Massive Blackhole". Is Hell and eternal suffering, _Actually_ eternal.
Or is eternal damnation just slightly less eternally eternal than God's more perfect eternal love!?"
Hey, I got hypothetical and philosophical at the end. My bad.
My point is, yeah- Pappy Daddy, Creator God-King Prime.. kinda did this to us, in a very loose sense, but more directly yeah. We do this to ourselves.
All he asked us to do was love, be loved, and recognize where loves flow-ebb-reside enter-in-froms. Above. Within. Without.
Now, Even Below. ✝️ Selfishly. Undead.
We, as a species, as a rule. Make that hard.
I am pretty confident the bible is only 10% Complete. I like the metaphor;
B.asic I.nstructions B.fore L.eaving E.arth is like, Boy Scouts Level Basic.
But like, we baby children so that tracks. 😂❤
I can sub, thats cool. Praise Jesus!
Know, he traditionally keeps me on, "Some Other Sh*t". Over here on the fringes of what we should even consider to be "Safe for General Audiences".
Beacuse brilliance is Akin to lunacy is how it is received and function and I believe I managed to lucky into a minutia of Solomon's Blood.
I know what I said! But I actually said something very different as well. I am not being confusing;
I am being extremely candid in my opening gambit to run a monopoly on Christian Mystery Sciences or, whatever we call guesswork-through-faith.
I really only do that to immediately seperate myself wholistically from the identity,
"Christians Churches".
Because I am neither a Christian, Nor a Church. I am a Disciple and of the Body, who generally speaking,
I's is kept apart and on the fringes of what is considered safe for knoweldge. As a tool bag. 🤓
WHY?! Do I play such a bold and mightily strange gambit? Marrying what is clearly a wisdom unbelievable with a reasoning unfathomable!?
I liken it to Wizardry, which is not Sorcery but a Spirit Science like Math, but it is actually Litterally Called Kabalaa and I never studied that;
I basically never studied, anything. Except General Knowledge, Bible, and Culinary Arts and Bushcraft.
I was already NUTS at a very young age so I jusy flat-out begged for _all_ the gifts and responsibilities.
I also begged to be like specific individuals, Namely Importantly?
Solomon, Isiah, Jeremiah, Sampson, Barnabus, and Timmy.
I also now ask for Peter's Seat, to what actually might be an annoying degree, though is is largely teasing.
The Reason it has to be as it is is so that by the end, the pastor and I can nod as Equal-but-not-evenly-Yolked Though, evenly distributed Collueges and Brothers.
It throws of everything below Prophet and The Minister Specifically so, i never really ever end up saying anything to the wrong people.
By now the general population has discredited me and moved on.
I basically asked them, too.
But, I also pose an immediate threat to the general well being of any congregation, by meritorious conquest for true-truth and the Hidden.
It is _Literally_ more advantageous to outmyslef in glourious self defamation of a none specified calibur now, and explain it.
This way I can quip and be a basic nobody later, generally just hanging and adding feedback, as I do.
Comment junky.
But, this way, you and I know.
"The Lord Sent a Gnome".
But, also.
The Lord Can't _Truely_ Send A Gnome.
By virtue we wanderaimless no holme for our gnomey dumb-dome.
I am saying, i just established the ranks. For the sake of brevity.
Now I am saying, but it is a formality;
There is One King and he Choses Wierd-do's with Wierd Identification Papers and Career Paths and No Swagger-butt-Fore the Flow of Spirit.
Seriously, "All is Folly and Vexation of Spirit". I know things no mortal man actually should, and it is because I am quite literally insane.
Humble? Usually. I am also Self-Realized through Grace.
I have a justifiable ego.
Which, again. Is all intentionally said long to ensure, "All is Folly and Vexhation of Spirit". I claim to be a Gnomish Wizard Dragon. And,
I say some super wise and compelling shit,
Please do censorship fight me.
I promise, the Lord Punishes me for my hubris, 2023 was a Rebuke Frenzy and I, broke some stuff again. "Though art my Battle Axe".
I modernized, "Lord. If I may be so Bold? Thermobaric Bombs are technically Cheaper if, we Buy in Bulk".
Ehhh, I hit the end. I make it up as I go along until I hear a mataphysical buzzer.
Take a Pray to ask, "Am I out of Line". **Breath**
No, nothing heretical just;
As usual my Filter is more of a Mageohone and my Confidence comes off as Arrogance and;
I _really_ did not need to go to all this trouble to say;
"Warning, I make Pentecostals Look like casual roleplayers!"
Because they kind of are.
This is what it looks like when also ritualistic and methodical in-wake in-line intention. When one, listens and restrains ones high-lunacy.
Which, is let me explain. Brilliance.
I am A Gnome, a Neeerd. Gamer. Loser gambler and number addict.
Intelligence is a Metric of Logic
Wisdom is a Metric of Reason
Charisma is a Metric of Faith
Protestantism;
Orthodoxy;
Pentecosts.
"I came to bring Balance to the force, not tear it all down. We are all tribes of one nation, as it should be. Not enemies who vie for dominance!"
We~ have however forgetten the importance of a balanced mind.
I will say, "I am done, halfway back". Because, "all is Vexation and folly" and "i am a bored nerd comment junky loner" and "on paper quite justifiably very sketchy" while also, "claiming some pretty bold things".
Yeah.
👋🙈🖐🥸😰🤓🙏🙉🙏🧐😎😇🥰👌🙊🤌
I swear on my immortal soul which is a losers gamble for all when one knows the _true_ value of an immerusable value.
I have no agenda.
I just know how this goes.
Everything copacetic for a month, then bam. I said a fo-paúľ and my head pops off, there is a huge dispute and then the rebuking.
I actually _practically_ hate, in that part. So I avoid it. I also have no desire to mislead anyone by my sudden and seemingly poingiant appearance.
I really do, have absolutely no idea why I do a majority of the things I do, or why I chose the words I do.
My Build is Primarily Charisma, and Wisdom from Levelups, but I skill-dump into intellectual persuits.
My Classes are "Disciple 7, Wizard 13, Loremaster 22" My Profession is "Church Breaker-Reformer" and my Allegiance is to the crown.
Okay, now if I did everything just right and did nothing at all. Listening to The Spirit and, hold on.
**Looking Up To The LIving Christ**
Yeah, no one should have any idea what just happened but, i should also have achieved maximum control going forward.
To reiterate, this is a legal document so I can be an Irreverant Clown and Quip around and generally just blurt things out in small leisure ocassionally bordering on hectical.
Because I am a Fool for the Glory,
I am A Jester and I clowning the Local Pasteur. For the sake of future brevity and understanding.
Look away peasants, for I am Royalty Un-Crowned speaking to You-Who-Arsed-Better.
I simply, probably, won't survive a repeat of 2023 and what I do is.
Really so mild.
The Lord rebuke you
Jesus calls some goats & some sheep & he laid His life down for His sheep. There are those who were given to Him by His Father before the foundation of the world & they come by the empowerment of the Holy Spirit (not by debt but by God’s Grace - He is free to love the entire creation, and love His people in it enough to actually, effectively call and save them. The others He still owes no Grace & can leave them in their fallen state, according to His pleasure - not worldly wicked unsaved people who feel they are entitled. This is simple stuff - if you abandon all notions of God owing several people salvation simply because He elected to ensure at least one person gets saved without fail.
Jesus didn’t love His people enough to provide a “possible” way - He did EVERYTHING to guarantee His Sheep actually ARE fully and completely saved. He loved the World of His sheep & of those, because of Him - not the sheep, He will lose NONE.
This is a bible fact that no one can come to Jesus to be saved unless he is drawn by the Father to Jesus, salvation is not our own doing but 100% all God's doing..
John 3:16 which says: For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Note: Those who believe in Jesus are the same people drawn to Jesus by the Father... Not their own ability to come to Jesus...
Jesus revealed in the parable of Wheat and Tares that there are only 2 kinds of people in the world, the children of God literally and the children of the devil literally.. all the children of God will be saved, and all the children of the devil will be burned in fire..
Example of the children of the devil can be found in John 8:44.. Example of the children of God can be found in Romans 8:14...
He draws all men - John 12:32. He does this by the cross. All will have a chance to believe, but not all will. John 3:18 - it’s a choice.
- Trent
@@BibleLine ,
John 12:32 says:
"And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me."
Note this is not drawing unto salvation, and it is the lifting up of the cross that draws all people to Jesus..
Whereas in John 6:44 , the drawing is for salvation and the Father is the one who draws them to Jesus to be saved.. If you remember while Jesus hang on the cross, all kinds of people were drawn to the cross.. Some crying and mourn while others come to insult him and to ridicule him..
John 6:44, No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.
He doesn’t say “I will draw all KINDS of people.” He says “I will draw all men unto me.”
This is very much in line with John 6:44. You take the Calvinist doctrine of Limited Atonement, and you force it upon all the alls, worlds, and everys in the Bible.
Of course universalism is false, but all people have opportunity to believe in his death for their sin (which was done on the cross).
- Trent
@@BibleLineIt doesn't matter,, all kinds of peope and all men are the same which means all people.. My point is that the drawing is not for salvation and it is not the Father that draws them to Jesus, but the lifting up of the cross will draw them to Jesus,
How can it be the same as John 6:44 when John 6:44 says:
"No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day." Can't you understan what it means "I will raise him up at the last day" ? It means Jesus will save him.. Can you see now the difference between John 12:32 and John 6:44?
Why do you think "sealing with the Holy Spirit" is the same thing as being "born again"? It is not. See Galatians 4:5-7. Also you conveniently left out verse 11 "In him we have obtained an inheritance having been predestined according to him who works all things according to the counsel of his will."
2 Peter 3:9 God desires that none should perish but that ALL would come to repentance...John 12:32 and Jesus says ...If I be lifted up I will draw ALL men unto myself.
Gods desire is now and has always been to redeem all of mankind, he desires that no one would perish. The tragic truth is the vast majority of humanity will perish because they're deceived and for the most part want to depend upon their own righteousness rather that call upon Jesus Christ.
Washer slanders the character of the Lord with the implication that God predestines certain humans to hell.
Washer is preaching and teaching a doctrine of demons.
John 3:16-19
English Standard Version
For God So Loved the World
16 “For God so loved the world,[a] that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. 17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him. 18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God. 19 And this is the judgment: the light has come into the world, and people loved the darkness rather than the light because their works were evil.
Romans 1: 7 To all who are in Rome loved by God called to be saints.
So that means some in Rome He did not love. It also means those He loved became saints, an effectual call.
john 3:16 does not say "God loved the world so much... " This is a indicative statement and it means "this is HOW God loves the world"
The end of the verse is also indicative and says " all the believing ones will be saved"
These are not imperative commands so I will link a short video to explain John 3:16 properly. It is so true that all the anti calvinists just throw a couple verses out with no context or proper hermeneutics applied.
ruclips.net/video/BDxRss_v78A/видео.html
@davevandervelde,
WHAT is the BIBLICAL Docrtrine
of ELECTION and PREDESTINA
TION?
Jesus revealed this doctrine of
Election and Predestination in
the parable of Wheat and Tares
In this parable, Jesus revealed
the doctrine of election and pre
destination..and who are those
people who are predestined to
be saved, and those predestined
to be burned in the lake of fire..
Jesus revealed in this parable
that those who are predestined
to be saved are the children of
God literally..
And those who are predestined
to be cast to the Lake of fire
are the children of the devil
literally..
Adam and his descendants are
the children of God because
Adam is a true son of God as
revealed in Luke 3:38...
Cain and his descendants are
the children of the devil
because Cain is the seed of the
serpent(devil) as mentioned in
Genesis 3:15...
Cain is not the son of Adam, he
is not included in the Genealogy
of Adam in Genesis 5...
Cain has his own Genealogy in
Genesis 4.. all the descendants
of Cain are very evil people like
him...
Jesus revealed in this parable
also that there are only 2 kinds
of people in the world, they are
the children of God literally and
the children of the devil literally
The children of God are called
Elect, and the children of the
devil are called reprobates...
Sometimes Jesus called the
Elect Sheep and the Reprobate
Goat.. All the Elect are
predestined to be saved, and
all the Reprobates are
predestine to be burned in the
Lake of Fire...
Jesus gave His Life only for the
Sheep(Elect) John 10:15
EXAMPLE of the children of the
devil can be found in John 8:44
EXAMPLE of the children of God
can be found in Psalm 82:6 and
in Romans 8:14..
Having the knowledge of the
Parable of Wheat and Tares
can answer the age-old
Mystery of what will happen
to a newly born child who
died or to the unborn fetus
who died in the womb..
GOD BLESS YOU ALL WHO
BELIEVES IN THIS REVELATION
OF JESUS IN THE PARABLE
OF WHEAT and TARES...
You can choose to believe and it not be a saving belief. A saving faith is a gift of God.
1st of all the one who upload this video is not fair.. When your pastor speak, it is very clear to understand what he is speaking, but when Paul washer speaks there many noises that can blur what Paul Washer is speaking, that is not Christianity...
I put subtitles. Tried my best lol
- Trent
Thank you, exposing Paul brainwasher.
Calvinism always falls apart when held up to scripture. They have to ignore so many clear passages and do so much twisting, just easy to use a movie than scripture.
I didn’t think a Calvinist if they were gloriously/truly saved could be carnal enough to watch lord of the rings?! Haha
Got bless
@gem934,
WHAT is the BIBLICAL Docrtrine
of ELECTION and PREDESTINA
TION?
Jesus revealed this doctrine of
Election and Predestination in
the parable of Wheat and Tares
In this parable, Jesus revealed
the doctrine of election and pre
destination..and who are those
people who are predestined to
be saved, and those predestined
to be burned in the lake of fire..
Jesus revealed in this parable
that those who are predestined
to be saved are the children of
God literally..
And those who are predestined
to be cast to the Lake of fire
are the children of the devil
literally..
Adam and his descendants are
the children of God because
Adam is a true son of God as
revealed in Luke 3:38...
Cain and his descendants are
the children of the devil
because Cain is the seed of the
serpent(devil) as mentioned in
Genesis 3:15...
Cain is not the son of Adam, he
is not included in the Genealogy
of Adam in Genesis 5...
Cain has his own Genealogy in
Genesis 4.. all the descendants
of Cain are very evil people like
him...
Jesus revealed in this parable
also that there are only 2 kinds
of people in the world, they are
the children of God literally and
the children of the devil literally
The children of God are called
Elect, and the children of the
devil are called reprobates...
Sometimes Jesus called the
Elect Sheep and the Reprobate
Goat.. All the Elect are
predestined to be saved, and
all the Reprobates are
predestine to be burned in the
Lake of Fire...
Jesus gave His Life only for the
Sheep(Elect) John 10:15
EXAMPLE of the children of the
devil can be found in John 8:44
EXAMPLE of the children of God
can be found in Psalm 82:6 and
in Romans 8:14..
Having the knowledge of the
Parable of Wheat and Tares
can answer the age-old
Mystery of what will happen
to a newly born child who
died or to the unborn fetus
who died in the womb..
GOD BLESS YOU ALL WHO
BELIEVES IN THIS REVELATION
OF JESUS IN THE PARABLE
OF WHEAT and TARES...
Washer's unbiblical ideology is Doom and Gloom. So depressing.
Thank you brother Jesse for opening the KJV Bible to refute his nonsense.
Keep preaching and teaching the Truth! 🤗🙏🏻
0:15 You have not? Great Christian _Existintialism_ . Non Coninical. Yes. Obvioisly it is self-insert fan-fiction about the fallen pre antideluvian. But- it- is- fabulous.
Purely, purely, purely. As entertainment and extra-textual.
Thematically? It is like, a 1 to 16 recreation of the first moments of time and creation and its, wild once you see it.
Not even the trilogy, specifically the Silmarillion. The man knows his mythos.
I'm pretty much just dedicated to electing Tolkien Posthumously to, "Prophet, Honorary; Creative Re Imagining Department." For his work on Halflings and Orcs.
The Best, and Worst of mortal beings.
Tertiary Goals. Its the simple things.
Nice word salad
Pastor Jesse, You did not become a son of God because you believe and were saved, but you believe and are saved because you are a son of God..
Galatians 3:26 refutes this. Stop putting doctrine over scripture.
- Trent
@@BibleLine,
Galatians 3:26,
"For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus."
So where did you get this faith? Why don't others don't have faith to believe? Why are you special than others?
@@BibleLine Why did you stop answering about Cain?
Did you run out of alibi that Cain is indeed not a son of Adam?
@@BibleLine, In the parable of Wheat and Tares, Jesus revealed that there are only 2 kinds of people in the world, the children of God and the children of the devil.. Therefore you are born either the child of God or child of the devil, Jesus also revealed in this parable that all the children of God will be saved and all the children of the devil will be burned in fire..
Therefore the reason why you believe and are saved is because you are a child of God.. All the child of God have faith to believe because they inherit the character of their Father God..
This is the biblical truth.. on the other hand, the children of the devil don't have faith to believe because they inherited the character of their Father the devil..
In John 8:44 Jesus said: "Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it."
Judas is a son of the devil, He don't have faith to believe and he don't know how to repent, He prefered to hang himself.. He is the descendant of Cain the seed of the serpent in Genesis 3:15...
Ephesians 2 states very clearly that the believers in Ephesus were dead in trespasses and sins, and they walked according to the “prince of the power of the air.” Everyone is born physically into this world as a child of the devil. You only become a child of God (spiritually) when you choose to believe in the Son of God who died for your sin. Hence Gal. 3:26, John 1:11-12, and John 3:1-18
This faith is for anyone to exercise. Everyone has capability to believe, but some choose not to believe.
- Trent
When you know the Bible, it is easy to follow Paul Washer arguments and what he is really saying. That doesnt mean that what he is saying is not true, but it is what he belives in. Then there is also this thing in the Word of God that speaks on strife.
Proverbs 20:3
It is an honor for a man to keep aloof from strife, but every fool will be quarreling.
I think you should mediate on this.
We cannot base the Bible on our beliefs, but we base our beliefs on the Bible. We have nothing against Washer’s person. We did not strife with him. We deny his false doctrine. The scripture is clear. God does not pick and choose. Salvation is free to all.
- Trent
@@BibleLine it is interesting that we humans dictate what God choses to do and not.
Salvation is free to all, no doubt.
Isaiah 55:8-11
[8]"For My thoughts are not your thoughts, Nor are your ways My ways," declares the Lord.
[9]"For as the heavens are higher than the earth, So are My ways higher than your ways And My thoughts than your thoughts.
[10]"For as the rain and the snow come down from heaven, And do not return there without watering the earth And making it bear and sprout, And furnishing seed to the sower and bread to the eater;
[11]So will My word be which goes forth from My mouth; It will not return to Me empty, Without accomplishing what I desire, And without succeeding in the matter for which I sent it.
@@BibleLine The Bible clearly states all throughout it that God picks and chooses his people. You may think it’s your choice but if you’re seeking God it’s because he’s drawing you to Him.
Hey man good presentation. I do understand Paul washers position and I think you're kind of talking passed each other he meant to say that men on their own without the aid of the Holy Spirit don't come to Christ.
And that's true the scripture says our flesh is at enmity with God and cannot be made conformable to God's ways.
In that quote of the interview that was shot with somebody's phone or whatnot he just wasn't saying what he said and many other places.
To be careful not to judge people in off the cuff comments that are either taken out of context or not the complete teaching that they represent I've watched enough of Paul to know that that's what he has said in other places in would say if you were to question him directly.
I don't think what he says the position he holds is opposite of what you said about god-loving the whole world but God loving the whole world does not mean that the world loves him back reciprocally.
So we have it both and not in either or am I pray that we would all be showing the world a loving side of Christ by not condemning without Mercy or showing Mercy in an unbiblical way where God ends up being the excuse of those who are unrepentantly guilty.
I'm not saying you're doing that Brother but that we need to be lovingly accurate about what the other one is saying.
I've kind of gotten beyond the whole calvinist Arminian debate.
I truly believe that both positions are right in what they affirm & wrong in what they deny.
Have you considered that possibility ?
Arminians believe you must maintain works, or salvation can be lost. We love the people who believe this, but we reject such teaching.
Calvinists believe God forces His hand by picking some to go to hell and some to go to heaven. They also believe works are evidence of salvation. Again, we love these people, but we reject that position.
Washer said exactly what he believes. We love him as a person for whom Christ died, but we fully reject that position. Paul said to let those who preach a false gospel be “accursed.” Gal. 1:8-9
- Trent
@@BibleLine
So in the end you're labeling him a false teacher who's accursed ?
Hmmm....
Seems you're agreeing with Paul Washer, but sticking to it's all man's choice. It's very hard to comprehend, because i too struggle a lot with it.
But as you said and wholly agree, is that without the Holy Spirit (1/3 of the triune God) acting in your life you can't come to God. And that's why dead men can't save themselves and we are dead in our sin until God works in our lives through the Holy Spirit.
So, it seems you're arguing against Paul, but stating many of his points.
I, like you, believe men have that choice.... But without God first acting and drawing us through the Holy Spirit, we stand against Him and are pure evil. (Paul's point)
So you're arguing point 2 in the process while Paul is talking about point 1.
And to all my brothers calling Paul Washer a false teacher, please watch your hearts. It's what comes out of a man that defiles him (Matt 15:11)..... they honor me with their lips, but their heart is far from me (Matt 15:8)
Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name? (Matt 7:22) do not be against the work of the Lord as you yourselves are creating division in the body of Christ.
Mark 9:38-40... Do not stop him, for no one who does a mighty work in my name will be able to soon afterward to speak evil of me
And as Paul (the apostle) wrote in 1 Cor 3:4-9 regarding i follow Paul, i follow Apollos.... You follow neither, you follow Christ, they are the servants through whom you believed.
Stop picking fights with Christians who believe the true gospel and preach Repentance, and seek with all discernment the wolves in sheeps clothing, trying to destroy them bride of Christ, and that is NOT Paul Washer, definitely not in the clip used.
Stay the course, and run the race with perseverence seeking the souls that are lost without the gospel.
Amen, seeing so called brothers and sisters in Christ using social media to destroy the bride of Christ, it's sad .
"Holy Spirit - 1/ of the triune God"?? This is nothing but a serious heresy
Notice the rich man never even acknowledged God in any way. He just wants some comfort. Not God.
Fitting to Calvinism to say this? The attitude of the rich man shows clearly that he would have chosen differently.
- Trent
@@BibleLine Not if it means choosing God.
Faith is not a work. Everyone can believe or not believe, and if one chooses to believe; it does not mean they worked for their salvation… God desires all men to be saved, wants all to come to repentance, and he draws all men by the cross. God does the saving when a man believes. God justifies when a man believes. God gives eternal life when a man believes. Jesus did the work, and all a man has to do is believe in Him.
- Trent
The opening argument is a total straw man...
Washer's? Yeah
- Trent
@BibleLine 0:50 this is a total strawman. Show some intellectual honesty.
Pastor,
Election and Predestination is God electing some people from the rest and predestined them to be saved. It is a biblical doctrine but the Calvinist did not understand it correctly..
I will send you the correct and bilical doctrine in my next comment under this comment...
WHAT is the BIBLICAL Docrtrine
of ELECTION and PREDESTINA
TION?
Jesus revealed this doctrine of
Election and Predestination in
the parable of Wheat and Tares
In this parable, Jesus revealed
the doctrine of election and pre
destination..and who are those
people who are predestined to
be saved, and those predestined
to be burned in the lake of fire..
Jesus revealed in this parable
that those who are predestined
to be saved are the children of
God literally..
And those who are predestined
to be cast to the Lake of fire
are the children of the devil
literally..
Adam and his descendants are
the children of God because
Adam is a true son of God as
revealed in Luke 3:38...
Cain and his descendants are
the children of the devil
because Cain is the seed of the
serpent(devil) as mentioned in
Genesis 3:15...
Cain is not the son of Adam, he
is not included in the Genealogy
of Adam in Genesis 5...
Cain has his own Genealogy in
Genesis 4.. all the descendants
of Cain are very evil people like
him...
Jesus revealed in this parable
also that there are only 2 kinds
of people in the world, they are
the children of God literally and
the children of the devil literally
The children of God are called
Elect, and the children of the
devil are called reprobates...
Sometimes Jesus called the
Elect Sheep and the Reprobate
Goat.. All the Elect are
predestined to be saved, and
all the Reprobates are
predestine to be burned in the
Lake of Fire...
Jesus gave His Life only for the
Sheep(Elect) John 10:15
EXAMPLE of the children of the
devil can be found in John 8:44
EXAMPLE of the children of God
can be found in Psalm 82:6 and
in Romans 8:14..
Having the knowledge of the
Parable of Wheat and Tares
can answer the age-old
Mystery of what will happen
to a newly born child who
died or to the unborn fetus
who died in the womb..
GOD BLESS YOU ALL WHO
BELIEVES IN THIS REVELATION
OF JESUS IN THE PARABLE
OF WHEAT and TARES...
Brother, tares are tares because they do not believe.
Wheat is wheat because they do believe.
John 3:18 is very clear. The choice is free to all. 1 John 2:2 is also clear that ALL sin of ALL people of ALL time was paid, but not all believe. See also Romans 3:22 - "unto all and upon all them that believe."
- Trent
It’s dishonest and sinful to take a clip and spin it to say something the other person isn’t saying. Be honest and show what Washer actually teaches. Your credibility is shot. And you use the parable to give meaning that it doesn’t mean. You miss the entire point.
We didn’t spin his words lol. I literally listened and listened, and I put subtitles there. Washer says it very clearly, and we responded. That’s not dishonest. Did you watch both parts??
He’s believed God picks and chooses who is saved, and who is not.
- Trent
Yes, but God did NOT love every human being with a "redemptive" love. If he did love everyone that way, then everyone would go to heaven. "...thou shall call his name Jesus, for he shall save HIS people from there sins" Matt 1:21. Not Everyone! So the verses that you quote, though they are absolutely true, are ONLY referring to the ones that GOD has saved from the foundation of the world. Redemptively, it does NOT apply to the rest Listen very carefully to Christ's prayer to the Father in Rev 17, before his crucifixion. He says, he prays" NOT for the world, but for them that God has given to him." Read it! And know the God means business when he says it! Listen to God when he describes OUR hearts as, "deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked." Jer 17:9 . Listen also, how God describes us before conversion, and read Mark 7:21-23. So we are, by nature wicked people not because Washer said it, but because God says it! Still don't believe it? Then you have NO intention in listening to God and I feel sorry for you.
Yes, He shall “save his people.” Unsaved people aren’t saved. The reason they aren’t saved isn’t because God didn’t love them. He does - John 3:16. He didn’t come to condemn them - John 3:17 - but he came to save them too. It’s just that they will go to hell for one reason - they didn’t believe in Him - John 3:18.
- Trent
@BibleLine @BibleLine People will come under the wrath of God because they were not elected by God, not because they didn't believe or accept. The bible is clear that there is none that seeketh him, there is none righteous, no not one. An unsaved person is DEAD in trespasses and sins, and he could never know God in a way that's pleasing to God. The reason Christ didn't come to condemn is because the entire human race is already condemned. If God's will was to save everyone, then everyone would be saved. Salvation is independent of your will. We are condemned at the moment of conception. That's why an infant with no knowledge of salvation is still in trouble with God and needs to be saved of God. After all, they could die as an infant and would need their sins paid for as well. Right there should show you that it's NOT our desire for salvation that saves us. But if you believe in man's free will, as many do, you would never hear this message.
@@BibleLineSo the only reason anyone goes to hell is because they don’t believe the gospel correct? Nothing you have done in past, present, or future will send you there expect not believing?
Jay that is correct. You notice the individual above completely denies the truth of John 3, especially verse 18, in order to fit a Calvinistic view. Choosing has nothing to do with going to heaven or hell. I know I’m saved because I chose to believe in the Savior.
- Trent
@@BibleLine thank you for your help
Paul washer is a terrible teacher
How is Paul washer a false teacher?
We explained it in the video. Thanks
- Trent
@@BibleLine
No you don’t. You do character defamation on Washer, and lie about God’s truth.
You’re going to hell if you don’t repent
Repent about what? We have already changed our minds and placed faith in Jesus Christ. Thanks.
- Trent
@@BibleLine
I find that hard to believe as much as you bash a true Christian and lie like the devil.
You’re utterly lost
We aren’t bashing the man, but we deny his message. We really do pray for and try to reach the men in these videos. Salvation is not dependent upon my actions, so you would be correct if the opposite were true. Salvation is free according to the scriptures. Please feel free to email us questions@biblelineministries.org. We are open to discussion of any kind. Have you noticed, I (Trent the editor) prefer to respond to the comments that usually refute us?
- Trent
Pastor, you are ridiculing Paul Washer to say that he is wrong and boasting that you are right and laughing as if you have got some special revelation from God. Do you think that Paul washer is less intelligent or less holy or less serious than you? Then how do you know that he is wrong? He uses the same bible you use. So it is very clear that your position is very weak and funny.
We didn’t ridicule him, nor did we attack his character and intelligence. He is a very smart man. We would be first to admit his amount of knowledge (correct or not) is much greater than ours… We do not boast in ourselves. I’m unsure why you think this. Does he use the KJV? I’m curious, I’ll research that. You seem like you’re always out to attack our character… I suppose the fruit inspecting position must do that.
- Trent
@@BibleLine You have side stepped my question. How do you know you are right and he is wrong?
@BibleLine "Turn your attention upon yourself and beware of judging the Deeds of other men, for in judging others a man Labor's vainly, often makes mistakes and easily sins, whereas, in judging and taking stock of himself he does something that is always profitable.
If we frequently judge that things are as we wish them to be, for through personal feeling true perspective is easily lost . If God were the sole object of our desire, we should not be disturbed so easily by opposition to our opinions. But often something lurks within or happens from without to draw us along with it" Thomas a` Kempis
@@into-christ Then you are admitting that there is the possibility that Paul Washer is wrong?
@@TheShadow.1 That is a different topic. Now let us stick to the question I asked. I am waiting for his answer.
Blessed is the man WHOM YOU CHOOSE, AND CAUSES TO APPROACH UNTO YOU, THAT HE MAY DWELL IN YOUR COURTS: WE SHALL BE SATISFIED WITH THE GOODNESS OF YOUR HOUSE (O YEHOVAH YESHUA), EVEN OF YOUR HOLY TEMPLE. BY TERRIBLE THINGS IN RIGHTEOUSNESS WILL YOU SAVE US, O GOD OF OUR SALVATION; WHO ARE THE CONFIDENCE OF ALL THE ENDS OF THE EARTH, AND OF THEM THAT AFAR OFF UPON THE SEA (S-E-E, THE VATICAN AND LUCIFER. SEE "LUCIFER'S TEMPLE UNDER THE VATICAN"). Exodus 6:2-3, Psalm 132:11, Isaiah 9:6, Jeremiah 49:19 & 50:44, Malachi 3:1, Matthew 1:21 (Joel 3:6) Yeshua (FOR YeHoVaH WILL SAVE, John 4:25-26 THE MESSIAH, 10:22-38 THE FATHER, 14:6-11 THE FATHER, 1Corinthians 15:47 YESHUA IS YEHOVAH FROM HEAVEN, 2Corinthians 5:19 TO WIT, THAT YEHOVAH WAS IN THE BODY OF YESHUA RECONCILING THE WORLD/ADAMKIND UNTO HIMSELF, Hebrews 9:12 BY HIS OWN BLOOD OBTAINED OUR ETERNAL REDEMPTION FOR US!, The REVELATION 1:8 YESHUA IS YEHOVAH, THE MIGHTY GOD, ETERNAL FATHER!!, WHO HAS BECOME OUR SALVATION! Psalm 118:14, Isaiah 12:2 "BEHOLD, GOD IS MY SALVATION: I will trust, and not be afraid: for the LORD, YEHOVAH, is my STRENGTH AND MY SONG; HE IS ALSO BECOME MY SALVATION. ITS TIME TO STOP BEING DECEIVED!!! Joel 3:6, Isaiah 66:, Jeremiah 51:, Isaiah 13:, Revelation 17:4-6 & 18:4-6.
If all people can be saved? Why did Jesus said that only few can be saved? Matthew 7:13-14..
John 3:16 and Acts 16:31 provide that salvation is available to all who believe.
Matthew 7:13 is about the single, narrow way of salvation-belief in Christ alone. All other false gospels, and works-based religions that rely on human effort to be saved, are the broad way that leads to destruction.