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We understand that we aren’t resetting our main character we are saying we want to play the season and story with our main character we don’t want to be forced to use seasonal characters to play the story we worked hard on our current characters and we want to use them that’s it
Starting over completely is not the issue. Massive has never said you will lose your main characeters and have to start over completely from scratch. The issue is that you cannot leverage your main in seasonal content. You can do the other activities with you main, but you cannot use your main in the seasonal content and the gear and XP from the seasnonal content is inaccesible to your main until the season is over. Not including the climax and master missions. In the context of seasons you are reset to 0 each season as you must start a new seasonal character each season.
The ones blindly defending it are completely ignoring this point. I've not seen anyone say they think their main is getting deleted? People want to work through seasonal content with their main agent, that's it, that's the gripe
Yeah, but you going to have to play the seasonal content as a beginner. I want to use all that I’ve earned since day 1 to do the new season. Descent failed because not too many people want to start from the beginning with any content
I left the previous comment to reiterate why people are concerned and/or upset. Your past effort in the form of SHD levels, expertise, and gear is irrelevant to seasonal content until the intermission period at the end of the seaons. Likewise, seasons are the new content and what will drive continued interest in the game so not havig access to these things in the seasonal content is not a trivial matter. People have every right to like or not like that.
So what I just read, was let's take away all the extra damage that we've given you over the years and we're going to start you fresh brand new with no bonuses. The watch and expertise give you damage and survivability bonuses.
@@dw4897 there may be an impact to pvp. That needs to be clarified. If new gear is tied to the season track then I am not sure how it can be accessed in PVP. You may need to use your seasonal character or gear granted on the season path is not accessible in PVP until the season is over.
Its a regrind instead of new content its an attempt to recycle old content in some other wording or “mechanic” Gcrock sounds like a shill saying otherwise.
The part I really don't like the idea of is introducing seasonal characters and tying them to the story progression. A large part of the playerbase's investment into the game comes from our main character's place in the continuing story. Forcing us to progress the story with a different character just invalidates our emotional investment and means that our main character's place in the story just stops abruptly.
I do feel you with this. Hopefully the real life entertainment and value you get from it is worth more than the attachment people have to their characters.
@@GCROCK “hopefully the mindless gun blazing and pew pews will serve you better than story telling and immersion” Yea no not everyone is playing with 2 brain cells😭
You literally read verbatim the same web page that everyone of us have read. Then you talk in circles punctuating the known information with "We're not sure". There is no mystery here. No one is believing that this is about thinking they are losing their main character. It's about being forced into a position in which one has to create a new reverted and neutered character in order to engage with seasonal content. And that is what they are doing. Telling people they now need to create level 1 characters in order to experience the seasonal activity , is in fact, telling them they are starting over. This tells everyone that they simply are boxed in now and unable to create any new experience that creates character progression for current character levels. This is like a straw man argument. This is specifically about having to create start over characters for the new seasonal content. And the way they are trying to make it seem like it's an exciting new experience. Let's be honest. The painful process of this game, and the way it has been put on life support. Tells everyone just what to expect. Nothing will be new, nothing is different. You'll be in the same locations, using the same roster of mechanics, same resources. The only thing that will be different will be the fact that they made you start over. It's a dead end. Might as well just start the whole game over with a new character and replay everything you've already done. Because that is basically what the seasonal characters are, a new way to run around in circles.
@@GCROCK Why is it that you seem to need to try to condescend and belittle by trying to label people as whiners and babies. I used no such descriptives with you. I simply held up the case that you were making yourself. You state in your video that you're going to explain everything to everyone because you believe they are not understanding what is going on. Then you read readily available information that many have already consumed and understood for themselves. You even say your self, basically you dont know for sure. I didnt state that you know nothing . I stated youre telling us, or many of us, what we already know. Because we read it for ourselves. I get that you want to dismiss me. So thank you for giving me such high marks for efforts and comical success. But to many the confusion, wether its deliberate on your part or not. Is the belief that many are thinking they will lose their main characters. The reality is many are not enticed or excited about having to restart new characters for seasonal activity engagement. And the reality is that this new game plan from the developers does require you to start over with new characters to engage with this seasonal revamp of activity. The fact that you refer to anyone that you see as not understanding, as being apart of some whining band wagon. Tells me , maybe the simple fact is, that you have a vested interest in towing the line. In trying to undersell what is actually being put forth by the developers. I have to assume you are referring to many of us as crying like babies, while telling us in the same sentence that we dont understand or have no idea what is going to come. Even though we have years of watching their choices and decisions and executions within the life span of this property. Dont believe your lying eyes as it were.
@@mrBaronvongunn okay after reading back your comment I do apologise, you were far more adult that the hundreds of others that are just whining for the sake of it. You are not in this boat so my bad on that. Please forgive me. You do miss my point of the video though. And you are just basing assumptions on what you think. As you said, I clearly say I know nothing as nobody does. The way they are doing it is bringing the game in with the times. Many games do this now to great success and they have the data and knowhow to make this work. Its not like they are doing this blind. Who is to say this new seasonal character will just be a weekly activity that they want you to do that beats what we currently have. And by doing it like this they are able to create so much more fun with it. People are getting unhinged on the none fact that they have to start over. This is not the case, it is clear to see in the communication. A few hours a week on your seasonal character followed by going back to your main to focus on whatever else you still play the game for. This will all be confirmed at a later date. Until then we know nothing. My video was for the people that have got lost in all this nonsense and have no idea what is going on. Some people think their mains are getting deleted. I just offered reassurance by going over what they said and explaining it which is what the title suggests.
@@GCROCKmaybe you should fall back on towing the line for Div 2 if you wanna give your channel a chance. Not a good look to be name calling when someone approaches you with a solid respectful debate.
I apologised. In my defense I have been bombarded with attacks because I have an opinion. I then snap. It happens. When I read the message back I apologised.
I’m with you on this one. Bringing back Keener and Parnell is a lazy and implausible retcon. It’s really kind of a middle finger to the community. Watching certain TD2 sign off on this without as much as raising an eyebrow is telling.
It’s classic Ubisoft move, don’t bother with new character writing or new assets - just recycle old assets and pretend I didn’t shoot 3000 bullets into his chest! Makes sense if you’re a lazy copout company that just wants to keep pushing an old title for profit
The issue for me other than the attachment to the character I've had since day one is that i only have a very limited amount of time i can play the game. its not like i can dedicate time to a new character in seasons and then go back to my main character and play the other modes, because of that i mostly only play the pve seasonal content. Also, the idea of building a new character from the ground up after a long day of work and only a limited amount of time to play just sounds daunting to me. Also, story wise it doesn't really make sense to me. It's our main character that Keener should be interested in recruiting, not some random agent we haven't met story wise.
"Maybe in the worst case scenario all this content will go to seasonal characters" Really? You've just read that the official statement says exactly that. It's not like we've misunderstood something, it's a really bad decision from the devs, that's it!
Nothing has said we still won't have leagues and global events as part of our main characters. You are all assuming. These could stay because why the hell not? They wont be seasonal no more just standard events on rotation maybe. So yes, worse case scenario is these are no more. But I see no reason why these cant stay if they are reinventing the seasons on a seasonal character. They emphasised on the story content and waiting 4 weeks, and that this would now be weekly. Again, we know nothing. Everyone is assuming. They will provide more information in August before season 2. And on another note, with some of their other decision making by making things all inclusive. It would be one hell of a move to rotate all global events and leagues giving new and returning players a chance to get some past apparel rewards.
I quit Diablo 4 to avoid seasonal mechanics because starting over was too annoying for the 4th time. Now Division 2 is forcing seasons on me here too... If they force me to start over from scratch to farm the season like Diablo that will be enough to make me quit the game for good. I like to hop in using my already made builds to farm the content. I DO NOT want to farm new builds from scratch; taking me hours/days/weeks, just to regain the same level of power that I already have.
Then don't try to min/max the Seasonal character. Y'all make it sound like it's such a hardship. "Time" so you're happy with running the same content with your already min/maxxed gear? For the 4,000th hour?
@@inhumANthropoidyes I do because I don't have nowhere near the time to invest like a lot of no-lifers do where all they do is play video games especially when there's other things to play I like to hop in every so often to do the seasons and league content and some countdown and then I'm done
New characters should have been made to be your bot team member to rum with you in missions. Have the character learn how you play and later have it as a backup team member running with you.
@AZ-dj1ni I think it was Forza that would have your cars racing other players when you weren't online. It would mimic your driving style. It could be done, but you're right. They've had issues gone unfixed for a while now. Something else they could do is offer the raid and incursion maps as solo player missions. Doesn't have to drop the exclusive exotics, but just use the maps for ne2 missions.
If im reading this correctly, thats how seasons 2.0 is going to end up as. You will have to recreate a new character every season and level it to 40 so that you can partake in the storyline/manhunt/global events. it makes absolutely no sense to create a character every season as you are allotted 4 total characters plus inventory space is going to be a major issue.I dont see this going well for Division 2. If the SHD levels dont transfer over and the gear from the stash space doesnt follow the seasonal character, then the game is officially going to die. No one is going to want to level a new toon specifically for a season and you not having the ability to get your gear from the stash. Again, It makes absolutely 0 sense to make a seasonal character when your main character has been doing everything for the last 5 years. If This is the case that you HAVE TO create a character every season, then Ubisoft just made sure that this game just ended its life cycle very quickly because of Seasons 2.0. lets see how this plays out day one of Seasons 2.0 shall we? I say this because they taking a page out of Blizzard's book.....Diablo 4 has a main toon in the eternal realm and a seasonal character has to be created so that you can participate in the seasonal events.
You will as of next season need to use a new character for the manhunt. That should be optional and I guarantee you 90% of people would use their existing! Numbers are speaking bud, this season hasn’t landed! Get all over The first descendant bro, it will be the way forward
Nah, just the whiners. Season 2 will come and 90% of people will try it. The only question is if what they do will be worth it. Seen this all before, update after update, year after year. We dont even know how it will work yet 🤣 And to think 90% of the playerbase want to keep doing the same old manhunt system is mind boggling.
@@GCROCK to be honest mate, kinda feels like they’re flogging a dead horse. I tapped out 2 seasons ago. Enjoyed the Incursion and would come back to get the gear but I even feel that extremely poor now. This is the first time I’ve had zero desire to play a season and that tells me everything. Good luck to you man, you make good videos and have CC responsibilities + plus you ain’t as meant as DOD 😂
So the summary of what the devs you and other content creaters are saying is that we will be playing the same content after 6 years. Not that impressive.
instructions unclear. I'm standing here with my pénizé in the toaster. 😃thx for this explanation. I was sharpening my pitchfork but I'm putting it back in its case.
Soooo basically Diablo 3 / 4 seasonal content. Make a new character, do the wacky content and level up there, and progress goes into the main game once the season ends. EDIT: Also, if this is anything like those games, then mains will be irrelevant since they cannot experience the new content brought in via seasons
How I think the seasonal character(s) works is like how diablo 3 works. If u don't know how it works, this is how it works: u got non season characters, season characters, hardcore non season characters, and hardcore season characters (all of them have separate loot and XP). When the season ends, all the loot u get gets transferred to the non seasonal characters and the season character's level goes to the non seasonal character's paragon level (if u are at paragon levels). Hardcore seasonal goes to hardcore non seasonal, softcore seasonal goes to softcore non seasonal.
@@GCROCK that's why I mentioned diablo 3 not 4. I was one of the people that hated diablo 4. I will admit that I played diablo 3 way after release (like in season 20+).
SO you do have to start over with a new character to play seasons ? I don't get what the whole point is it seems they just want to change things around because they cant think of any decent content to add to the game. Its a shame really seen so many people say they are uninstalling.
People saying they are uninstalling and not happy is nothing new 🤣 Self entitled people can be quite loud and I have seen these cimments since I started The Division 1. I think statistics speak louder though. The buzz around the game right now is great to see. I think I speak on behalf of a lot of people that just get on with their day, we are very excited to see so much effort going into the game we love and can't wait to see what the DLC brings. I think its great to see them focus on some fundamentals on a game that is five years old before just unloading content onto us. We also assume a lot of the stuff they do now will be in prep for Division 3 so that they can test the waters with ideas.
The official statement says that you'll have to create a seasonal character to play the season, if you don't want to play the lore, or just don't care, then you don't need to create one.
@@GCROCKthe buzz around the game is great to see? Wth are you talking about?! This is not good buzz my dude. This is game killing buzz. Can you not read the room? 🤦♂️ Bro we all want change to the seasons but this ain't it. They need to rethink this or they're will lose what seems like alot of the players
I think Ubisoft should have kept quiet about seasonal characters until they were prepared to fully explain it. Ubisoft forward was very obviously not the place or time to talk about it.
OK with no disrespect I’ve been playing Diablo four since it came out in no matter what when you start a new seasonal character, your original character gets left behind and no matter how you spin it. That’s exactly what is happening.
So basically what I get from this is the developers are lazy and don’t want you to have all the loot that you’re grounded for for the last five years or so and start fresh to play the way they want you to play not the way you want to play which is kind of a really stupid model in my
"At the end of the each season your main character will recieve all XP and rewards while your seasonal character will get added to your roster" Dont see how this is going to be identical to Diablo 4 but the fact you have played Diablo 4 since launch shows that system is working for them? Div is not Diablo. They were very clear with their intentions of doing what they are doing. No character is going to be left behind.
I did not say identical, I said like and it is annoying because it’s forcing me to start all over at one to do the seasonal contact. I haven’t touched my firstly round character because they force me to do a new character and then I take that one play the story because that’s all there is to do for the season they don’t have read that’s why I said it was like not to see you’re still making the character redundant by doing this crap, so no no matter how much you show for them and protect them and say this is a good thing it’s not.
@@GCROCKthey havent been clear at all bro, lol, that's why you're attempting to help them be clear with this video. Also Diablo has been doing Ladder/Seasons for 20+ years. I dont know about Diablo1 but Diablo2 had Ladder and you had to remake characters every new Ladder.
If we can't play the GEs with our main charecters then it's dumb. Hey all the fun GEs in game you can't play with your main! You know the fun stuff! 😂 That just sounds like a horrible idea. For the manhunt it makes sense. But turning the season into Descent, NO ThANKS
How many times do you have to explain that you will only be able to participate in seasonal activities with your main during the last 2 weeks of a 4 month season?
I didnt explain this once in this take as it was before they released that information. But I do think that is great news if people are that against creating a seasonal character 👍
Seasonal resets will fail Div2 wasn’t designed or have the foundation for it. All division agents are the same unlike say in Diablo for example you can pick a different class.
I bought ultimate edition today then i see the patch that level caps unlocked for everyone and endgame content too. So i did good deal or wasted $ ? What is difference between game +dlc and ultimate edition ?
no they said we have to level these new characters from lvl 1 to lvl 40 each new season. and guarentee the WONY lvl 30 booster wont be usable on seasonal characters.
I haven't played since completing the first raid. I feel like jumping back in but I get thevl feeling I'll bebso overwhelmed and not knowing what to do in a kind of release order (free content). Can anyone help 9n explaining in anyway in guiding me?
I feel that this is slightly misleading as we don’t know what season 2.0 is going to look like. It’s going to be weekly stuff. So we can’t look at what we have as a factor of what we will have. It’s like being blind folded, and by touch only telling me the difference between a granny Smith apple and a Fuji apple. If there model is after Diablo 3 - 4 then session and non session don’t mix. So if you want the session experience you have to be a session creator. There is no stash sharing between the two. Cinda like how hardcore is currently in the game. Thinking about it that’s how this could all work there is a sessional server and if you want sessional stuff you have to play on the server.
I go over everything we know from what they have said. They covered alot of what you mentioned in their announcement and post announcement article. In terms of the stash/gear, they have said that all rewards and XP will move to your main character at the end of the season and your seasonal character will be added to your roster. This means everything you get, you keep and you will be able to use it on your main later.
@@GCROCK I’m not saying you were wrong on many of your points. And think people just need to chill at this point. As we don’t know. And that’s what I thought was miss leading is comparing what we have VS the unknown of what we will have.
This is a false narrative. Nobody thinks their main character is going to be erased. This is ridiculous. Ongoing enjoyment of the game, all future seasonal content, story, events, priority targets, rewards and whatever else gets included in a season will all be locked behind starting a new level one character. This is starting over!
Great overview that answers a lot of questions. Looking forward to the August event to get more details. I for one am happy for a shakeup: friends that have stopped playing the division are actually thinking of coming back. This the ultimate goal: creating a level playing field to entice more people to play without affecting the end game for die hard fans.
correct me if i am wrong but doesnt the whole shd level thing only works in dz i dont play a lot of dz infact never played it for more than 15 min because every single time i get killed by hackers. but the difference in shd level only matter in dz as higher shd level gives us more of everythign
Great video and explanation. I am still not convinced about not playing with my main character and mostly I am really annoyed that YOU have to explain it and not Ubi. But that’s typical Ubi I guess….
No worries. This is just my take, I could be very wrong also. I think the good news is they know the whole deal, they can see all the feedback and they will let us know a lot more before the change happens. Until then I wouldn't worry and we will find out exactly how it will work in August at their "summer event"
What do I when I play Division 2? I raise my SHD Level and max my gear straight for future story content. So yeah... God job Ubisoft. This really upsets my immersion into this game both for lore and fun factor. This is just another way to get you to grind shit over again without trying to piss people off. I have my own goals now. Max expertise and hit 3000-3800 SHD and I will be satisfied. They are going out of their way to make this game unenjoyable. Its obvious when they want you to play certain content. Now they are making story mode decisions with prerequisites? Might have to eventually watch Division 3 playthrough on youtube if this keeps up.
@@GCROCK But it's not optional if you want to play through the story as you have before. Make it optional, give people who do the seasonal character something extra at the end of the season and the problem's solved.
You should not make promises like you have here. In seasonal games there is typically only a couple of weeks, sometimes days between seasons so if that is the case here, WHEN exactly do you promise these people their main character will be the thing to play? Sorry man but unless you have information the rest of us don't you're just not correct here and are doing the same things you are telling other people not to do.
Because it's so obvious. There are stages to this game and seasons 2.0 will enhance the game at the later stages. For anyone still working on the earlier stages, you will still want to do this and will still be able to.
My fear was having to delete one of my 4 characters, but it seems there will be an extra slot for the seasonal character, so I'm cool with that. One thing I don't like with the seasonal character is it will be like an extended tutorial from what I'm hearing, that's great for new players, but veterans probably won't like that, though I'll wait and see how it is, no need to worry about it now.
Guess for now this latest season right now will be last season that i will play on division 2 untill that new features come out in august..then gonna retire while waiting TD3 and playing other games..lazy already to farm over again same stuff for new seasonal event in august..
Did I ever tell you what the definition of insanity is? Insanity is doing the exact same fucking thing over and over again expecting sht to change. That. Is. Crazy.
Wow! This video has provided the best explanation of the new season's content and what to expect going forward. Your 18-hour stream yesterday was epic, and you are such a value to the Division community!
It seems to me, i could be wrong but, if they want to shake things up this much it would make more sense to just make a Div 3. I mean i get what they are doing but i dont get why. Why drastically change a game that has been around for so long. Ubisoft needs to stop being cheap and give us Div 3. IMO
@@GCROCK then they should be saving this radical of a change to the game for Division 3 and keep it out of Div 2. or if they wanted to approach this, shouldve polled the community first to see if its something wed support but hey we all know the answer to that poll, they wouldve had a overwhelming NO!
@@TheFallinhalo its definitley mixed opinions, plus they have nothing to poll anybody on right now because the full details are still unknown. Statistics speak more than anything. They will have these next season and beyond.
4.54: You're hitting the nail on the head. Thus far the information provided about Season 2.0 is vague. We've been informed in general terms about a subject that is, to put it mildly, rather sensitive to the community. Ubisoft could have done a better job here to prevent a lot of speculation and misunderstanding. To me it seems (please note: this is only my interpretation!) the Division 2 will become a hybrid game: you can continu all the current missions with the characters you already have. In addition, starting with Season 2.0, there will be a new game mode: the seasonal challenge that you start from scratch. This seems like an upgraded version of Descent but taking place in the usual Div 2-environment of Washington and NY. And that has about the same building up of gear and skills that we had when we were leveling up to level 40. The devs have said something like: "In the current context of the game we have run out of opportunities to bring the fans exciting new content and gear." The new exotics and gearsets we got for this seasons proves their point. And I don't blame them for it: hell, the Div 2 is been running for years. It's time for a big change. The Div 2-team has taken a bold step to innovate, probably also with Div 3 in mind. I hope they can pull it of to refresh the game and I am looking forward to the new season. Of course, there remain a lot of questions, for example: some of us have 4 characters already, what happens when the seasonal character is added to the roster? The future will learn.
I just thought of the last five years we've had this character now we have new gameplay that's only tied to the story, not the character we have ran the last 5 years with. This is the problem. Any of those seasonal character is only game play for a story 5 years old. We are attached to the last 5 years, and up rooting the story, to bring people back, that will leave again. They play other games. Few select of us play daily. That's our choice. And the devs want you to play no other game. Look at how they are bringing you back. Old map with new directives, cuz we are not getting Brooklyn's new map for over another 7 months.
Given how vague the initial announcement was, I think that providing answers is a misstep given how many people didn't understand it in the first place.
oh well First Descendant is right over the corner, I'm not interested in this seasonal character bullshit, I want to play my main like now so if this changes then I'll just move on from D2 :)
Check this out Division 2 year 6 is all about $$$. Deleting world tiers and an entire gear platform (gear score 100-500) cuts maintenance, server space, and even number of "fixes" required when there is a problem. New manhunts equal significant increase in players which equals server space. Seasonal characters with no stash or backpack will prevent the need for this server space when more players log in. Div 2 is going into auto pilot and they are cutting back on resources not changing the game for player enjoyment. Last manhunt did not
My take on the seasonal character is a pick from either a support, assault or heavy. Run through the season with that character but certain gear set will only be applicable to those characters. If this is the case I'm up for it.
So am i have to regrind rolls and talents on new gear when my main already has what i want. That's my problem here not a new character just getting low rolls maxed.
@@grumpyoldman6503 there will most likely be, also at 40. I do not see us having two different seasons levels. Especially when I watch is at a thousand.
Interesting video but at about 5:30 into the video I have to say I don't care about the global events or the leagues so if they moved those to the seasonal character that would be perfectly ok but if they moved the manhunt story over to the seasonal character then that would make the game unplayable for those who can't exactly grind out hours for a new character
The manhunt/story is moving over. They have confirmed this. However don't think of it like you need to spend 100 hours to get to end game and get all of your builds. Think of it like you will log into it once per week to do much more engaging activities that will level you up faster. Once you are done for the week, back to your main. I imagine there may be a way to get to level 40 quick on the seasonal character but it wont be needed. You could just log in each week, do the activities and by the end of the season you will be more than ready to take on the climax mission. Now, for those that want a real challenge, take on the master climax mission afterwards and this will require a bit more effort. Or you can just let the season finish and take on the Master Climax mission on your main once the season is over. They will not require a ton of time from you. I assure you. I think it will be a lot clearer once they deep dive into it before season 2
@@GCROCK "They will not require a ton of time from you. I assure you. " Respectfully you have no way of knowing that. It is entirely possible that Massive will botch the balancing and it'll take 20 hours a week over the course of a season just to grind back to Level 40. I work a busy job and get to relax maybe two hours a week playing some Division 2, so if they're locking all the new content behind a seasonal character where all the loot and hard work I've put in for five years is inaccessible, then I'll find another bloody game to play instead.
But why in the heck would i want to start at level 1 with none of my gear and stuff that I have spent countless hours getting right and building? Seriously this AARPG approach so far sounds pretty lame. HOPEFULLY I am wrong
I am really really sick of all these games companies telling us how to play the game in a game where you are to find the loop build a build play with the build if you want to play with something different you have that option but now with the way you describe it, we are being forced to play The Way massive wants you to play and that is wrong. If I would choose not to play strikers and play hunters, fury that’s my choice by th forcing to pick Hunter’s fury over striker is wrong.
With the seasonal characters im ok still some unknowns but with them removing world tier for this im wondering how the other aspects are going to be with the way there going its for new and returning players getting the exp and items from the seasonal characters to the main
Now Im not gonna get all doom and gloom until it comes out. But i really hope that they go all the way, like the main character is, well the main character whereas seasonal characters are seperate from that story. For example maybe we could be a rogue agent working for natalya, or an agent being tested by calvin to become a hunter. This would give us a wider perspective on characters. It could also change how the game is played during these manhunts as we could get locked out of certain areas like haven or the whitehouse as well as changing up who we fight against. But I dont know if theyd go that far. Lets just wait and see for Y6S2 before we start going all Aaron Keener.
Love the idea of the new seasonal characters being rogue!! And I am with you, as I said in the video too. We need to wait and see how these are actually going to work before we judge.
They’re not changing the game. The missions are going to be the same. So being a rogue wouldn’t make sense. They’re going to have accelerated levelling and game play modifiers. The campaign is going to be exactly the same.
Me too. It needs to be fun. Looking forward ro August where I guess we will have a proper Deep dive into it. Then we can really start talking about what we think
Well from a person that was expecting/hoping for heartlands to be integrated. You seem to be hyping a bad idea they came up with a lot. Still alot of ifs and buts on what they actually doing i have loads of questions but will havecto wait till it drops
@GCROCK.... Ive went through about all the comments and noticed you only reply nicely to people that agree with you and anyone that has an opinion opposite you, youve called them whiners and self entitled among other things that i didnt see cause you deleted them. Before i typed 1 comment this channel asked me to abide by the rules. I dont think you have Rock. You should try to do better. I know what youve done for the Division community and thats great but this video has a lot of misinformation and your comments are most likely against your own rules. Check yourself my guy, people are allowed to have opinions just like you without the name calling.
I have replied to many comments respectfully where they havn't aligned with my opinion. There was one I mis read and I apologised, retracted my comment. You are now just making stuff up
No long term playing is thinking our mains are getting deleted or we are starting again we all understand what season 2.0 revamp is we just don't want it, to be only able to play the last two weeks of a season with a char i have spent thousands of hours playing and maintaining while keeping the game alive is a kick in my teeth to the hours I've dedicated to the game. It should be an option you opt in or out of, that way new players can play it and any other player that wants to try it with a seasonal char can by using the opt in. It's wrong and the backlash is going to be massive and it will not end well and trust me they will reverse it. For the record i would also opt in and try it with a fresh seasonal char but only after i had cleared the content on my main.
G, I absolutely hate this idea. I don’t want a new character. I have 6k+ hours on this game, I love my builds, I want to play my way. I’m so disappointed the direction this game is going. I’ve said it from the start, these devs DON’T PLAY THE GAME. They have no clue. So now instead of giving us new raids or incursions, they’re making us start with new characters because they’re too lazy or clueless as to how to progress the story. I’m sorry to say it, but I will be playing Destiny more. They really know how to make a game.
Let’s be real this is a time Gate to content, this is an another loop for player engagement. Most people don’t have the time and the attention to do this releveling a character each season. You say it’s easier to level up which is not true they have nerfed xp gains, if they want to penalize players in this way to push them into this new seasonal content that’s bad game design. I understand this is perfect content for and your channel but the content is not worth it for regular players faux season long global events and sub par gear isn’t worth it.
@@GCROCK to your point you trust them to make leveling easier that’s fair, but ask yourself how are they going to do this? this just shows the devs are reverting the changes they made to xp gains in previous seasons and updates then, and that’s a spit in the face. As I said this will be content for channel but most players don’t like this.
@@_Smile_Today Im sure the XP is just bugged. There was no mention of this in patch notes. And the "Content for your channel" contradicts the point you make about most people not liking this. I only get views if people like the content. We have no idea how any of this will work yet. Yet people are making up their minds already. None of this makes any sense at all to me.
@@GCROCK please stop being disingenuous, you played Diablo 4 a year ago you know what the concept of seasonal gameplay in a looter is, it’s not going to change for the division 2 either and to quote a Ubisoft character “did I ever tell you what the definition of insanity is? Insanity is doing the exact same thing over and over again, and expecting shit to change” that’s what players are complaining about, no one wants releveling a character over and over as content that’s a waste of time, and then you’re doing the same missions over again and again. Since you think I’m contradicting what I’m saying in “the content for your channel” and people not liking it, so let me clarify people not liking the content of the games update, but both can be true, people can not like the content of the game play and still watch your stream or your videos, people come to watch you and be apart of your community.
@@_Smile_Today Diablo 4 is seen as being in a great place with its seasonal characters once they balanced it correctly. If done right it works. We dont even know how this will work yet. You are judging something that you have no clue about, just assumptions.
If the new seasonal content and gear isn't accessible to my main then there's no reason for me to continue to play the game. So, your main is stagnant until the season ends? Which could be 3 months or 6 months if something goes wrong? No thanks. If I wanted the feel of starting a new game with a new character for new gear, I wouldn't do it on an old broken game like the division.
Hi and ty for info. Watched the livestream on and off yesterday and it was a period with lots of talking about watch mules etc. Even I got cofused at a short time. :) Ty for streams Mr G and keep it up! :)
I don't like the idea but we'll see what happens. However locking you out your main character out of new content is just dumb. I also feel the game is way easier after this update. I've always played on the highest world tier and on heroic since it released and I'm blowing through missions/check points in minutes. Doesn't feel challenging anymore
Man I hate that I could never get into these games earlier I owned them both since they released I just could never get into because I had no friends that liked the game now I gotta watch RUclips videos to catch up but it’s honestly all over the place
The majority of the content is designed to boost interest in the game, gain new players or pull back in returning players, they are trying new seasonal structures to be more inline with current and up to date live service games, I understand a lot of people’s frustrations and seasonal characters feels like such a drop of the ball, however, I will hold my breath as I believe the team behind the game have not only interest in driving future sales of the game and Division 3 but they want to bring new content and ways to play for Veteran and Hardcore players. Not everything is going to work.
Seasonal content is amongst the only stuff i can really do on characters. If this is all true and i cant max a character in 4 hours im gonna have to drop the game here. Just too much to be able to redo all that on top of gear.
I started playing this game a couple days ago and im super lost i cant even get the seasonpass it re directs me to mainpage of steam 😅 im so lost on how this all works
This just copies a functionality of Diablo 4. Players have to start from scratch with a new character in a season and gear (that blizzard deems ok to transfer) at the end of that characters season can transfer to your main non seasonal character. It sucks. It comes across as them padding “time people spent playing” the game. If people want to use their already high level geared character, let them. If they want to create a new character let them. Give players a choice. Bleh. Their player count will drop and they’ll either revert it back or use it as an excuse to turn their servers off. I’ll move on. Oh well.
Sounds like the community wants the Division to not become Diablo. Division 2 is now a sandbox for Division 3. There will be changes that may be either positive and negative. We shall all see. Regardless, feedback is important.
I think people are tunnel visioned on the Diablo concept. I don't see this being anywhere near what Diablo does. What diablo does works for Diablo and we can hope what Massive do with a seasonal character system for The Division, works for The Division. Like you said, time will tell. I am sure if it flops completely then they will have to take another look at it.
Well explained. I dont know what the hate is about. I had wished for a seasonal format after I level my 2nd agent as a mule. I also happen to delete one of my agent by accident, and it was actually very refreshing to be able to loot and get excited for god rolls again :D. D2 has such vast open world and storytelling that I found myself want to do over once every 3~4 months. Its kinda like watching/reading your favorite movie/book again.
With you on this. People just love to hate even when they don't even know what they are hating on. We don't even know how they will add their spin on this yet. I make a video to answer the confusion that I saw in my stream yesterday and the haters still gotta come and shit on it. So glad I was brought up with some class. This new generation of self entitled keyboard warriors is embarrasing to say the least
@@GCROCKand you're hating on everyone's opinions which makes you a hater, dont be a hypocrite...and you yourself are a key board warrior. Called everyone names, gtfoh dude. You know nothing like the rest of us, stop acting like you know more.
The point of season is to start over... If you want to play your old character then just play it, why does it have to do these particular stories that are specifically there for SEASONS. Without those, the seasons wouldn't have as much appeal. Starting over is fun, try something new, your character isnt going anywhere. Or just dont do seasons... Your main will get the seasonal gear when the next one starts, otherwise whats the point?! That would just be "added content" instead of a true "seasonal"
I would say its more jumping to conclusions. The communication is there but people tunnel vision and then jump on the hate train. Obviously we can all always do better. But they were clear this was a season 2 thing, they were clear more information will be coming. We should learn a lot more in August. I see a lot of confused people from the lack of more information and then the fall out over social media.
That kind of sounds annoying I can’t use my primary character for the season the character that I spent ages to get the builds for or better yet the characters that I’ve “just” got the build for that I’m gonna want to use for awhile The build that I may have just struck genius over that’s gonna be complete torture what’s this new season out? Oh that’s right I can’t use my new build that sounds so annoying even if they are new character
Hi, I do think Ubisoft should have shown everyone what this was all about they need to engage with the players more and not just put out statements this would have helped. As Ubisoft is freezing moneys on games until later next year for funding advertising and dlc of the new Star Wars game coming out soon. I’m hoping The Division 3 will come soon I think it has great potential to be an amazing game but I have little faith in Ubisoft D2 countless glitches bugs and on going problems that they will not fix and yes some are out of their control.due to old consoles that the game was made for A new version of D2 game for the new consoles should have been started 3 years ago but hey.
@@GCROCK It felt pretty self explanatory. They are doing away with expertise bonuses and SHD lvl bonuses by forcing you to make a seasonal character that resets every season. The problem is everyone’s main character has been heavily invested into builds,resources,time… if you can’t use your main for any “new” content what’s the point.
@@MattW6314 Where do they say they are doing away with that? Maybe on seasonal character yes but is this not something to work on for your main still? This change is just seasonal content. Not any other fresh content. So think DLC and new Brooklyn map, think new incursions, potential new modes, new raids if they go back in that direction, new legendary missions. All this will be for our main powerful characters that we have been working on. Seasonal characters will also work towards our main as everything gets transfered. I am not trying to say you are wrong but I am struggling to see how our mains will be redundant. I also think it is self explanatory and this is how I am seeing it. What we need to so is wait for the full reveal I guess.
@@GCROCK When I say they are doing away with the SHD and Expertise I mean for the seasonal content. The season is like 4 months long so the guy that I’ve been working on for the past 5 years that has the SHD maxed the Expertise maxed and my build built to my play style I CANT use on seasonal stuff because they want to reset everyone to 0. There should be an option if you like seasonal characters more power to you. The vibe seems like 90% of the veteran community understands what they’re doing and doesn’t agree especially after how loyal we’ve been through the repetitive sub par content we’ve gotten.
@@MattW6314I know what you are saying. But what I am saying is how much of that 4 months do you spend on the season now? I think for most vets that you mention we spend a day or a few days on the season track, we spend 30 mins on each manhunt if we can be bothered, we spend some time on the leagues if we can be bothered. And then there are the global events which are hit and miss. You then have apparel events which can again be done quick. Its safe to assume a lot of people have left because of this model. Most vets still playing are working on watch levels and expertise for the most part. Given that most of the playerbase right now is new and returning players, they still have a lot to do on this part. If anything, the new seasonal characters will give vets more reason to stick around and enjoy the game each season with staggered and more meaningful content. As far as I can tell, seasonal characters work very well on other games. Keeping things fresh, keeping players entertained without doing the same old thing every season. Im excited for this change personally and have spoke to a lot of others who are. I surround myseld with positive people though and don't read too much into a hate train on something where lets be honest, we have no idea how it is going to work yet. One example I have is my best mate. I have been trying to make him stick on this game for years but he hates the seasonal model. He jumps on with me if I need him but he calls me yesterday and says they are finally doing something with seasons.. This might be what makes me play the game if they do it well. If we just look at social media comments then yeah, looks like a lot of angry people. If we include the people that are not playing the game no more, and the more positive people, basically the ones that wont be sharing their opinions, you will also see a lot of people excited to see where this goes. I think everyone in this divide just needs to agree to disagree, accept we have different opinions and see what happens. I think if it flops as hard as a lot of people think then they would reavaluate it for sure.
its about not using your main character it becomes useless,for the seasons, after spending 3389 hours season characters is stupid for a looter shooter.. diablo or path of exile' makes sense the time invested to get max expertise level upgraded the gear to max expertise is for nothing we have to make a new character to play the new seasons .that is just a joke the devs have no idea what the players want like more incursions/locations .bigger darkzone like in div1
Personaly dont see any issue using a new character to make seasons more fun. I will still be working on my main to do all the endgame content and the new content coming. I feel for people at the end of their main character progression this will be a nice way to enjoy the seasons more. More content is coming and this content will be for your main so its still worth reaching that pinnacle with it.
@@PeopleRTheProblem 😂 Okay. Well this is obvs one of them. Thats why your here commenting on a div video. And if you dont try something out how can you even judge? Genuine question.
@@GCROCK is there nothing in your life you can say you don’t like even though you’ve not tried it? And this was one of them. Cutting everyone off from seasonal content isn’t something I’m a fan of
I just dont see how they are cutting anyone or anything off. This confuses me no end. So you can 1) stay the same, sign in every three weeks to play 20 minutes of rushed manhunt because its the same old control points and bounties it has been for years now. Only plus is having a few days grind of a season pass every 4 months. 2) Switch things up. They have decided on seasonal characters where you will have weekly content to do rather than three weekly and as its a new server they are going to introduce seasonal modifiers which nobody knows what they are yet. Allowing each season to be different because of said modifiers. The one downside, waiting for season track rewards if you dont want to do it. Climax mission has to be the best thing about this and is available to main also. The climax miasion now asnit is, is the only good thing about the seasonal content bar the season pass. Plus they are adding a master difficulty intended for 4 players on these which will suit those that like incursion style content. How can anyone can judge this before they try as we have no clue as to what they plans are with the modifiers etc. And master mission. But yes, you are free to judge before you try for sure. But going back to your original message. People that continue to play will still use their mains. This isn't Diablo.
Drinking game: Every time someone said the words "start over" in G's stream chat yesterday, take a shot. You will get annihilated in the first couple hours.
I’m all for the seasonal characters but I think it would be awesome to after the seasonal grind and all we earned from it we take that xp and loot to our mains and then get to experience a new pinnacle experience made to challenge our main characters to their limits at the end of the seasonal grind. Engaging and interacting with the seasonal grind would give us the tools to be able to tackle each season’s hardest challenge specifically designed for our main characters. Would give seasonal characters a solid complement to our mains. That pinnacle activity could reward us with seasonal apparel to show we completed the season.
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Do you need to have warlords of new york to get keeners watch at level 40 or can you get a watch without dlc ?
@@lukehegarty1915 You now get it without DLC
We understand that we aren’t resetting our main character we are saying we want to play the season and story with our main character we don’t want to be forced to use seasonal characters to play the story we worked hard on our current characters and we want to use them that’s it
Starting over completely is not the issue. Massive has never said you will lose your main characeters and have to start over completely from scratch. The issue is that you cannot leverage your main in seasonal content. You can do the other activities with you main, but you cannot use your main in the seasonal content and the gear and XP from the seasnonal content is inaccesible to your main until the season is over. Not including the climax and master missions. In the context of seasons you are reset to 0 each season as you must start a new seasonal character each season.
The ones blindly defending it are completely ignoring this point. I've not seen anyone say they think their main is getting deleted? People want to work through seasonal content with their main agent, that's it, that's the gripe
In my stream where 18,000 people tuned in yesterday, a lot of people thought their characters were going to be redundant. So yes, people think this
Yeah, but you going to have to play the seasonal content as a beginner. I want to use all that I’ve earned since day 1 to do the new season. Descent failed because not too many people want to start from the beginning with any content
@@GCROCK they are going to be redundant. there will be almost no reason to play a non season character during the season.
@@thanhtong2281Descent fail
Bugisoft: we gonna make it in open world
Did someone ask for it? No, but I do what I can get out of the bugs
I left the previous comment to reiterate why people are concerned and/or upset. Your past effort in the form of SHD levels, expertise, and gear is irrelevant to seasonal content until the intermission period at the end of the seaons. Likewise, seasons are the new content and what will drive continued interest in the game so not havig access to these things in the seasonal content is not a trivial matter. People have every right to like or not like that.
So what I just read, was let's take away all the extra damage that we've given you over the years and we're going to start you fresh brand new with no bonuses.
The watch and expertise give you damage and survivability bonuses.
Oh yes this is also on a PVE side right not the PVP side correct? So not other person is going to shoot at you, like in the dz.
None of this is confirmed apart from season toons being able to part take in the seasonal event.
@@dw4897 there may be an impact to pvp. That needs to be clarified. If new gear is tied to the season track then I am not sure how it can be accessed in PVP. You may need to use your seasonal character or gear granted on the season path is not accessible in PVP until the season is over.
Its a regrind instead of new content its an attempt to recycle old content in some other wording or “mechanic”
Gcrock sounds like a shill saying otherwise.
The part I really don't like the idea of is introducing seasonal characters and tying them to the story progression. A large part of the playerbase's investment into the game comes from our main character's place in the continuing story. Forcing us to progress the story with a different character just invalidates our emotional investment and means that our main character's place in the story just stops abruptly.
I do feel you with this. Hopefully the real life entertainment and value you get from it is worth more than the attachment people have to their characters.
My main is the one the story of the game is all about, and not being able to do the story anymore breaks the immersion for me.
How long will it take to get the rolls and talents we what on gear instead of play the season?
@@GCROCK “hopefully the mindless gun blazing and pew pews will serve you better than story telling and immersion”
Yea no not everyone is playing with 2 brain cells😭
You literally read verbatim the same web page that everyone of us have read. Then you talk in circles punctuating the known information with "We're not sure". There is no mystery here. No one is believing that this is about thinking they are losing their main character. It's about being forced into a position in which one has to create a new reverted and neutered character in order to engage with seasonal content. And that is what they are doing. Telling people they now need to create level 1 characters in order to experience the seasonal activity , is in fact, telling them they are starting over. This tells everyone that they simply are boxed in now and unable to create any new experience that creates character progression for current character levels. This is like a straw man argument. This is specifically about having to create start over characters for the new seasonal content. And the way they are trying to make it seem like it's an exciting new experience. Let's be honest. The painful process of this game, and the way it has been put on life support. Tells everyone just what to expect. Nothing will be new, nothing is different. You'll be in the same locations, using the same roster of mechanics, same resources. The only thing that will be different will be the fact that they made you start over. It's a dead end. Might as well just start the whole game over with a new character and replay everything you've already done. Because that is basically what the seasonal characters are, a new way to run around in circles.
@@GCROCK Why is it that you seem to need to try to condescend and belittle by trying to label people as whiners and babies.
I used no such descriptives with you. I simply held up the case that you were making yourself.
You state in your video that you're going to explain everything to everyone because you believe they are not understanding what is going on.
Then you read readily available information that many have already consumed and understood for themselves.
You even say your self, basically you dont know for sure.
I didnt state that you know nothing . I stated youre telling us, or many of us, what we already know. Because we read it for ourselves.
I get that you want to dismiss me. So thank you for giving me such high marks for efforts and comical success.
But to many the confusion, wether its deliberate on your part or not. Is the belief that many are thinking they will lose their main characters.
The reality is many are not enticed or excited about having to restart new characters for seasonal activity engagement.
And the reality is that this new game plan from the developers does require you to start over with new characters to engage with this seasonal revamp of activity.
The fact that you refer to anyone that you see as not understanding, as being apart of some whining band wagon. Tells me , maybe the simple fact is, that you have a vested interest in towing the line. In trying to undersell what is actually being put forth by the developers.
I have to assume you are referring to many of us as crying like babies, while telling us in the same sentence that we dont understand or have no idea what is going to come.
Even though we have years of watching their choices and decisions and executions within the life span of this property.
Dont believe your lying eyes as it were.
@@mrBaronvongunn okay after reading back your comment I do apologise, you were far more adult that the hundreds of others that are just whining for the sake of it.
You are not in this boat so my bad on that. Please forgive me.
You do miss my point of the video though. And you are just basing assumptions on what you think.
As you said, I clearly say I know nothing as nobody does. The way they are doing it is bringing the game in with the times. Many games do this now to great success and they have the data and knowhow to make this work. Its not like they are doing this blind.
Who is to say this new seasonal character will just be a weekly activity that they want you to do that beats what we currently have. And by doing it like this they are able to create so much more fun with it. People are getting unhinged on the none fact that they have to start over. This is not the case, it is clear to see in the communication. A few hours a week on your seasonal character followed by going back to your main to focus on whatever else you still play the game for.
This will all be confirmed at a later date. Until then we know nothing. My video was for the people that have got lost in all this nonsense and have no idea what is going on. Some people think their mains are getting deleted. I just offered reassurance by going over what they said and explaining it which is what the title suggests.
@@GCROCKmaybe you should fall back on towing the line for Div 2 if you wanna give your channel a chance. Not a good look to be name calling when someone approaches you with a solid respectful debate.
I apologised. In my defense I have been bombarded with attacks because I have an opinion. I then snap. It happens. When I read the message back I apologised.
@@supremevato5297 even deleted his comment. OP is spitting straight fax
When someone thinks the Keener “No guys he didn’t die after all” switcheroo was “brilliant”, I wouldn’t say they have the best taste for narratives…
I always said they killed off keener too early. They should’ve just had him escape during the final battle in WoNY.
I’m with you on this one. Bringing back Keener and Parnell is a lazy and implausible retcon. It’s really kind of a middle finger to the community. Watching certain TD2 sign off on this without as much as raising an eyebrow is telling.
It’s classic Ubisoft move, don’t bother with new character writing or new assets - just recycle old assets and pretend I didn’t shoot 3000 bullets into his chest! Makes sense if you’re a lazy copout company that just wants to keep pushing an old title for profit
The issue for me other than the attachment to the character I've had since day one is that i only have a very limited amount of time i can play the game. its not like i can dedicate time to a new character in seasons and then go back to my main character and play the other modes, because of that i mostly only play the pve seasonal content. Also, the idea of building a new character from the ground up after a long day of work and only a limited amount of time to play just sounds daunting to me. Also, story wise it doesn't really make sense to me. It's our main character that Keener should be interested in recruiting, not some random agent we haven't met story wise.
Biggest problems going to be rerolling low rolls.
That's the biggest thing I'm concerned with... is how the story is going to work. Like is there a 3rd wave of Division agents?
Yep they pretty much killed the casual player who can only play a few hours week.
@@jasonb193 you're going to have to choose between running the story or doing targeted loot to get good gear to kill things.
"What we have here.....is a failure to communicate".
"Maybe in the worst case scenario all this content will go to seasonal characters" Really? You've just read that the official statement says exactly that. It's not like we've misunderstood something, it's a really bad decision from the devs, that's it!
Nothing has said we still won't have leagues and global events as part of our main characters. You are all assuming. These could stay because why the hell not? They wont be seasonal no more just standard events on rotation maybe.
So yes, worse case scenario is these are no more. But I see no reason why these cant stay if they are reinventing the seasons on a seasonal character. They emphasised on the story content and waiting 4 weeks, and that this would now be weekly.
Again, we know nothing. Everyone is assuming. They will provide more information in August before season 2.
And on another note, with some of their other decision making by making things all inclusive. It would be one hell of a move to rotate all global events and leagues giving new and returning players a chance to get some past apparel rewards.
I quit Diablo 4 to avoid seasonal mechanics because starting over was too annoying for the 4th time. Now Division 2 is forcing seasons on me here too... If they force me to start over from scratch to farm the season like Diablo that will be enough to make me quit the game for good. I like to hop in using my already made builds to farm the content. I DO NOT want to farm new builds from scratch; taking me hours/days/weeks, just to regain the same level of power that I already have.
They're not forcing you you can choose not to play the season.
Biggest problem is not having the gear with the good roles that we're going to want.
Then don't try to min/max the Seasonal character. Y'all make it sound like it's such a hardship. "Time" so you're happy with running the same content with your already min/maxxed gear? For the 4,000th hour?
@@inhumANthropoidyes I do because I don't have nowhere near the time to invest like a lot of no-lifers do where all they do is play video games especially when there's other things to play I like to hop in every so often to do the seasons and league content and some countdown and then I'm done
@@Nick-oh6ms 👏
Now that they learned to add more character slots, add more slots for non-seasonal characters and more space in the stash
New characters should have been made to be your bot team member to rum with you in missions. Have the character learn how you play and later have it as a backup team member running with you.
They even cant fix bug and you want something so complex? That's too much for their capabilities.
@AZ-dj1ni I think it was Forza that would have your cars racing other players when you weren't online. It would mimic your driving style. It could be done, but you're right. They've had issues gone unfixed for a while now. Something else they could do is offer the raid and incursion maps as solo player missions. Doesn't have to drop the exclusive exotics, but just use the maps for ne2 missions.
If im reading this correctly, thats how seasons 2.0 is going to end up as. You will have to recreate a new character every season and level it to 40 so that you can partake in the storyline/manhunt/global events. it makes absolutely no sense to create a character every season as you are allotted 4 total characters plus inventory space is going to be a major issue.I dont see this going well for Division 2. If the SHD levels dont transfer over and the gear from the stash space doesnt follow the seasonal character, then the game is officially going to die. No one is going to want to level a new toon specifically for a season and you not having the ability to get your gear from the stash. Again, It makes absolutely 0 sense to make a seasonal character when your main character has been doing everything for the last 5 years. If This is the case that you HAVE TO create a character every season, then Ubisoft just made sure that this game just ended its life cycle very quickly because of Seasons 2.0. lets see how this plays out day one of Seasons 2.0 shall we? I say this because they taking a page out of Blizzard's book.....Diablo 4 has a main toon in the eternal realm and a seasonal character has to be created so that you can participate in the seasonal events.
You will as of next season need to use a new character for the manhunt. That should be optional and I guarantee you 90% of people would use their existing!
Numbers are speaking bud, this season hasn’t landed! Get all over The first descendant bro, it will be the way forward
Nah, just the whiners. Season 2 will come and 90% of people will try it. The only question is if what they do will be worth it. Seen this all before, update after update, year after year.
We dont even know how it will work yet 🤣 And to think 90% of the playerbase want to keep doing the same old manhunt system is mind boggling.
@@GCROCK to be honest mate, kinda feels like they’re flogging a dead horse. I tapped out 2 seasons ago. Enjoyed the Incursion and would come back to get the gear but I even feel that extremely poor now. This is the first time I’ve had zero desire to play a season and that tells me everything. Good luck to you man, you make good videos and have CC responsibilities + plus you ain’t as meant as DOD 😂
@@GCROCK actually the manhunt had an updated from the original way it was look it up.
@@freshcity They simplyfied it. They gave you less to do as it was tedious. I dont call that an "update"
@@GCROCK any change to a game that was not there originally is an update.
So the summary of what the devs you and other content creaters are saying is that we will be playing the same content after 6 years. Not that impressive.
The devs keep creating more gear/weapons but need to give us more inventory space. At least raise stash space to 4-500. And the DLC is long overdue.
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😃thx for this explanation. I was sharpening my pitchfork but I'm putting it back in its case.
Soooo basically Diablo 3 / 4 seasonal content.
Make a new character, do the wacky content and level up there, and progress goes into the main game once the season ends.
EDIT: Also, if this is anything like those games, then mains will be irrelevant since they cannot experience the new content brought in via seasons
Dude thank you this is the best explanation I've seen so far
How I think the seasonal character(s) works is like how diablo 3 works. If u don't know how it works, this is how it works: u got non season characters, season characters, hardcore non season characters, and hardcore season characters (all of them have separate loot and XP). When the season ends, all the loot u get gets transferred to the non seasonal characters and the season character's level goes to the non seasonal character's paragon level (if u are at paragon levels). Hardcore seasonal goes to hardcore non seasonal, softcore seasonal goes to softcore non seasonal.
I know Diablo had a huge backlash and had to shape things up in Diablo 4.
@@GCROCK that's why I mentioned diablo 3 not 4. I was one of the people that hated diablo 4. I will admit that I played diablo 3 way after release (like in season 20+).
SO you do have to start over with a new character to play seasons ? I don't get what the whole point is it seems they just want to change things around because they cant think of any decent content to add to the game. Its a shame really seen so many people say they are uninstalling.
People saying they are uninstalling and not happy is nothing new 🤣 Self entitled people can be quite loud and I have seen these cimments since I started The Division 1. I think statistics speak louder though. The buzz around the game right now is great to see. I think I speak on behalf of a lot of people that just get on with their day, we are very excited to see so much effort going into the game we love and can't wait to see what the DLC brings. I think its great to see them focus on some fundamentals on a game that is five years old before just unloading content onto us.
We also assume a lot of the stuff they do now will be in prep for Division 3 so that they can test the waters with ideas.
The official statement says that you'll have to create a seasonal character to play the season, if you don't want to play the lore, or just don't care, then you don't need to create one.
@@GCROCKthe buzz around the game is great to see? Wth are you talking about?! This is not good buzz my dude. This is game killing buzz. Can you not read the room? 🤦♂️
Bro we all want change to the seasons but this ain't it. They need to rethink this or they're will lose what seems like alot of the players
I think Ubisoft should have kept quiet about seasonal characters until they were prepared to fully explain it. Ubisoft forward was very obviously not the place or time to talk about it.
OK with no disrespect I’ve been playing Diablo four since it came out in no matter what when you start a new seasonal character, your original character gets left behind and no matter how you spin it. That’s exactly what is happening.
So basically what I get from this is the developers are lazy and don’t want you to have all the loot that you’re grounded for for the last five years or so and start fresh to play the way they want you to play not the way you want to play which is kind of a really stupid model in my
"At the end of the each season your main character will recieve all XP and rewards while your seasonal character will get added to your roster"
Dont see how this is going to be identical to Diablo 4 but the fact you have played Diablo 4 since launch shows that system is working for them?
Div is not Diablo. They were very clear with their intentions of doing what they are doing. No character is going to be left behind.
I did not say identical, I said like and it is annoying because it’s forcing me to start all over at one to do the seasonal contact. I haven’t touched my firstly round character because they force me to do a new character and then I take that one play the story because that’s all there is to do for the season they don’t have read that’s why I said it was like not to see you’re still making the character redundant by doing this crap, so no no matter how much you show for them and protect them and say this is a good thing it’s not.
@@GCROCKthey havent been clear at all bro, lol, that's why you're attempting to help them be clear with this video. Also Diablo has been doing Ladder/Seasons for 20+ years. I dont know about Diablo1 but Diablo2 had Ladder and you had to remake characters every new Ladder.
@@GCROCKI just pray are main character somehow gets brung back into the fold in a later season honestly all we can do is sit and wait
The devs needs a actual breakdown chart. This is utter confusion
If we can't play the GEs with our main charecters then it's dumb. Hey all the fun GEs in game you can't play with your main! You know the fun stuff! 😂 That just sounds like a horrible idea. For the manhunt it makes sense. But turning the season into Descent, NO ThANKS
How many times do you have to explain that you will only be able to participate in seasonal activities with your main during the last 2 weeks of a 4 month season?
I didnt explain this once in this take as it was before they released that information. But I do think that is great news if people are that against creating a seasonal character 👍
Where did you that backpack skin from with the hunter mask on it
Seasonal resets will fail Div2 wasn’t designed or have the foundation for it. All division agents are the same unlike say in Diablo for example you can pick a different class.
I bought ultimate edition today then i see the patch that level caps unlocked for everyone and endgame content too. So i did good deal or wasted $ ? What is difference between game +dlc and ultimate edition ?
The difference now is just the New York map. If people don't own the expansion they wont have access to this map and story.
So all our characters are at level 40 now or do we level from 30-40 I haven’t played in awhile and I’m getting back into it
no they said we have to level these new characters from lvl 1 to lvl 40 each new season.
and guarentee the WONY lvl 30 booster wont be usable on seasonal characters.
I haven't played since completing the first raid. I feel like jumping back in but I get thevl feeling I'll bebso overwhelmed and not knowing what to do in a kind of release order (free content). Can anyone help 9n explaining in anyway in guiding me?
do i have to farm SHD points for skills again?
I feel that this is slightly misleading as we don’t know what season 2.0 is going to look like. It’s going to be weekly stuff. So we can’t look at what we have as a factor of what we will have. It’s like being blind folded, and by touch only telling me the difference between a granny Smith apple and a Fuji apple. If there model is after Diablo 3 - 4 then session and non session don’t mix. So if you want the session experience you have to be a session creator. There is no stash sharing between the two. Cinda like how hardcore is currently in the game. Thinking about it that’s how this could all work there is a sessional server and if you want sessional stuff you have to play on the server.
I go over everything we know from what they have said. They covered alot of what you mentioned in their announcement and post announcement article. In terms of the stash/gear, they have said that all rewards and XP will move to your main character at the end of the season and your seasonal character will be added to your roster. This means everything you get, you keep and you will be able to use it on your main later.
@@GCROCK I’m not saying you were wrong on many of your points. And think people just need to chill at this point. As we don’t know. And that’s what I thought was miss leading is comparing what we have VS the unknown of what we will have.
This is a false narrative. Nobody thinks their main character is going to be erased. This is ridiculous.
Ongoing enjoyment of the game, all future seasonal content, story, events, priority targets, rewards and whatever else gets included in a season will all be locked behind starting a new level one character.
This is starting over!
Great overview that answers a lot of questions. Looking forward to the August event to get more details.
I for one am happy for a shakeup: friends that have stopped playing the division are actually thinking of coming back. This the ultimate goal: creating a level playing field to entice more people to play without affecting the end game for die hard fans.
100%
correct me if i am wrong but doesnt the whole shd level thing only works in dz i dont play a lot of dz infact never played it for more than 15 min because every single time i get killed by hackers. but the difference in shd level only matter in dz as higher shd level gives us more of everythign
Great video and explanation. I am still not convinced about not playing with my main character and mostly I am really annoyed that YOU have to explain it and not Ubi. But that’s typical Ubi I guess….
No worries. This is just my take, I could be very wrong also. I think the good news is they know the whole deal, they can see all the feedback and they will let us know a lot more before the change happens.
Until then I wouldn't worry and we will find out exactly how it will work in August at their "summer event"
Not a great explanation
What do I when I play Division 2? I raise my SHD Level and max my gear straight for future story content. So yeah... God job Ubisoft. This really upsets my immersion into this game both for lore and fun factor. This is just another way to get you to grind shit over again without trying to piss people off. I have my own goals now. Max expertise and hit 3000-3800 SHD and I will be satisfied. They are going out of their way to make this game unenjoyable. Its obvious when they want you to play certain content. Now they are making story mode decisions with prerequisites? Might have to eventually watch Division 3 playthrough on youtube if this keeps up.
They should make it optional
It is optional. Dont wanna do it then dont. Just wait until it all gets unlocked at the end of the season. Play the game exactly how you do now
@@GCROCK But it's not optional if you want to play through the story as you have before. Make it optional, give people who do the seasonal character something extra at the end of the season and the problem's solved.
You should not make promises like you have here. In seasonal games there is typically only a couple of weeks, sometimes days between seasons so if that is the case here, WHEN exactly do you promise these people their main character will be the thing to play? Sorry man but unless you have information the rest of us don't you're just not correct here and are doing the same things you are telling other people not to do.
Because it's so obvious. There are stages to this game and seasons 2.0 will enhance the game at the later stages. For anyone still working on the earlier stages, you will still want to do this and will still be able to.
My fear was having to delete one of my 4 characters, but it seems there will be an extra slot for the seasonal character, so I'm cool with that.
One thing I don't like with the seasonal character is it will be like an extended tutorial from what I'm hearing, that's great for new players, but veterans probably won't like that, though I'll wait and see how it is, no need to worry about it now.
If you wanna keep that seasonal character after the season is over then you will have to delete one of your 4 main characters.
Guess for now this latest season right now will be last season that i will play on division 2 untill that new features come out in august..then gonna retire while waiting TD3 and playing other games..lazy already to farm over again same stuff for new seasonal event in august..
Did I ever tell you what the definition of insanity is? Insanity is doing the exact same fucking thing over and over again expecting sht to change. That. Is. Crazy.
Wow! This video has provided the best explanation of the new season's content and what to expect going forward. Your 18-hour stream yesterday was epic, and you are such a value to the Division community!
Appreciate the comment, glad you got the video 👍
@williehutch03...sorry bro this video didnt explain anything well except what was already said by the Division 2 devs.
I like the idea of master rank quests and if this brings new interest to the game then it’s a big plus to keep the div 2 going then I’m in
When are seasonal characters out?
It seems to me, i could be wrong but, if they want to shake things up this much it would make more sense to just make a Div 3. I mean i get what they are doing but i dont get why. Why drastically change a game that has been around for so long. Ubisoft needs to stop being cheap and give us Div 3. IMO
They are making a Div 3
@@GCROCK I didnt know that was confirmed. Lol i heard rumors but i havent been keeping up in Division for months. Got kinda burnt out ya know ?
@@GCROCK then they should be saving this radical of a change to the game for Division 3 and keep it out of Div 2.
or if they wanted to approach this, shouldve polled the community first to see if its something wed support but hey we all know the answer to that poll, they wouldve had a overwhelming NO!
@@TheFallinhalo its definitley mixed opinions, plus they have nothing to poll anybody on right now because the full details are still unknown. Statistics speak more than anything. They will have these next season and beyond.
4.54: You're hitting the nail on the head. Thus far the information provided about Season 2.0 is vague. We've been informed in general terms about a subject that is, to put it mildly, rather sensitive to the community. Ubisoft could have done a better job here to prevent a lot of speculation and misunderstanding. To me it seems (please note: this is only my interpretation!) the Division 2 will become a hybrid game: you can continu all the current missions with the characters you already have. In addition, starting with Season 2.0, there will be a new game mode: the seasonal challenge that you start from scratch. This seems like an upgraded version of Descent but taking place in the usual Div 2-environment of Washington and NY. And that has about the same building up of gear and skills that we had when we were leveling up to level 40. The devs have said something like: "In the current context of the game we have run out of opportunities to bring the fans exciting new content and gear." The new exotics and gearsets we got for this seasons proves their point. And I don't blame them for it: hell, the Div 2 is been running for years. It's time for a big change. The Div 2-team has taken a bold step to innovate, probably also with Div 3 in mind. I hope they can pull it of to refresh the game and I am looking forward to the new season. Of course, there remain a lot of questions, for example: some of us have 4 characters already, what happens when the seasonal character is added to the roster? The future will learn.
I just thought of the last five years we've had this character now we have new gameplay that's only tied to the story, not the character we have ran the last 5 years with. This is the problem.
Any of those seasonal character is only game play for a story 5 years old.
We are attached to the last 5 years, and up rooting the story, to bring people back, that will leave again. They play other games. Few select of us play daily. That's our choice. And the devs want you to play no other game. Look at how they are bringing you back.
Old map with new directives, cuz we are not getting Brooklyn's new map for over another 7 months.
Given how vague the initial announcement was, I think that providing answers is a misstep given how many people didn't understand it in the first place.
oh well First Descendant is right over the corner, I'm not interested in this seasonal character bullshit, I want to play my main like now so if this changes then I'll just move on from D2 :)
Check this out Division 2 year 6 is all about $$$. Deleting world tiers and an entire gear platform (gear score 100-500) cuts maintenance, server space, and even number of "fixes" required when there is a problem. New manhunts equal significant increase in players which equals server space. Seasonal characters with no stash or backpack will prevent the need for this server space when more players log in. Div 2 is going into auto pilot and they are cutting back on resources not changing the game for player enjoyment. Last manhunt did not
My take on the seasonal character is a pick from either a support, assault or heavy. Run through the season with that character but certain gear set will only be applicable to those characters. If this is the case I'm up for it.
I like this take!
So am i have to regrind rolls and talents on new gear when my main already has what i want. That's my problem here not a new character just getting low rolls maxed.
@@grumpyoldman6503 season also go from level 100 to 40, so there's about 60 levels missing.
@@grumpyoldman6503 there will most likely be, also at 40. I do not see us having two different seasons levels. Especially when I watch is at a thousand.
What I'm waiting to know is how and where do I use my main character
Non-seasonal gameplay until the 2 week intermission period.
Great explanation.
This video cleared up a lot of my questions.
Thank you.
So, do we make a new character now? Or later?
Next season. Nothing has changed yet
I keep getting same screen I not able to play server are unavailable some than about echo-02
As long as they don’t ignore the sheriff’s existence in lore, I am fine with it. Give the sheriff a lore reason to be sidelined in seasonal missions.
Interesting video but at about 5:30 into the video I have to say I don't care about the global events or the leagues so if they moved those to the seasonal character that would be perfectly ok but if they moved the manhunt story over to the seasonal character then that would make the game unplayable for those who can't exactly grind out hours for a new character
The manhunt/story is moving over. They have confirmed this. However don't think of it like you need to spend 100 hours to get to end game and get all of your builds.
Think of it like you will log into it once per week to do much more engaging activities that will level you up faster. Once you are done for the week, back to your main. I imagine there may be a way to get to level 40 quick on the seasonal character but it wont be needed. You could just log in each week, do the activities and by the end of the season you will be more than ready to take on the climax mission.
Now, for those that want a real challenge, take on the master climax mission afterwards and this will require a bit more effort. Or you can just let the season finish and take on the Master Climax mission on your main once the season is over.
They will not require a ton of time from you. I assure you.
I think it will be a lot clearer once they deep dive into it before season 2
@@GCROCK "They will not require a ton of time from you. I assure you. "
Respectfully you have no way of knowing that. It is entirely possible that Massive will botch the balancing and it'll take 20 hours a week over the course of a season just to grind back to Level 40. I work a busy job and get to relax maybe two hours a week playing some Division 2, so if they're locking all the new content behind a seasonal character where all the loot and hard work I've put in for five years is inaccessible, then I'll find another bloody game to play instead.
Thank you for the clarification, I was confused about the seasonal character.
No problem at all. That was the aim of the video. Glad it helped
@margo....this video was not a good source of clarification. He clearly has no clue just like the rest of us what's going to happen.
@@saintanubis6177 Yes your right, but the clarification I was referring to is about they giving us a five agent.
they said that they won't add a new slot FOR the seasonal character, they said we need to delete one in order to play on a seasonal character tho..
This video is not helpful. We all know what seasonal characters are. Just look at Diablo 4, LE, etc.
But why in the heck would i want to start at level 1 with none of my gear and stuff that I have spent countless hours getting right and building? Seriously this AARPG approach so far sounds pretty lame. HOPEFULLY I am wrong
I am really really sick of all these games companies telling us how to play the game in a game where you are to find the loop build a build play with the build if you want to play with something different you have that option but now with the way you describe it, we are being forced to play The Way massive wants you to play and that is wrong. If I would choose not to play strikers and play hunters, fury that’s my choice by th forcing to pick Hunter’s fury over striker is wrong.
This was just my idea that I liked the sound of. This is not what are doing.
Nice vid & they’ve sneakily nerfed invaded missions & projects XP.
Invaded with 4 directives i used to get 880k xp now i get 360k
"I don't want to start over again" *Laughs in level 30 players*
With the seasonal characters im ok still some unknowns but with them removing world tier for this im wondering how the other aspects are going to be with the way there going its for new and returning players getting the exp and items from the seasonal characters to the main
Now Im not gonna get all doom and gloom until it comes out. But i really hope that they go all the way, like the main character is, well the main character whereas seasonal characters are seperate from that story. For example maybe we could be a rogue agent working for natalya, or an agent being tested by calvin to become a hunter. This would give us a wider perspective on characters.
It could also change how the game is played during these manhunts as we could get locked out of certain areas like haven or the whitehouse as well as changing up who we fight against.
But I dont know if theyd go that far.
Lets just wait and see for Y6S2 before we start going all Aaron Keener.
Love the idea of the new seasonal characters being rogue!! And I am with you, as I said in the video too. We need to wait and see how these are actually going to work before we judge.
They’re not changing the game. The missions are going to be the same. So being a rogue wouldn’t make sense. They’re going to have accelerated levelling and game play modifiers.
The campaign is going to be exactly the same.
@@GCROCKbut you're judging everyone who doesnt like it by calling them whiners, take your own advice
I just hope the modifiers aren't stupid
Me too. It needs to be fun. Looking forward ro August where I guess we will have a proper Deep dive into it. Then we can really start talking about what we think
Well from a person that was expecting/hoping for heartlands to be integrated. You seem to be hyping a bad idea they came up with a lot. Still alot of ifs and buts on what they actually doing i have loads of questions but will havecto wait till it drops
@GCROCK.... Ive went through about all the comments and noticed you only reply nicely to people that agree with you and anyone that has an opinion opposite you, youve called them whiners and self entitled among other things that i didnt see cause you deleted them. Before i typed 1 comment this channel asked me to abide by the rules. I dont think you have Rock. You should try to do better. I know what youve done for the Division community and thats great but this video has a lot of misinformation and your comments are most likely against your own rules. Check yourself my guy, people are allowed to have opinions just like you without the name calling.
I have replied to many comments respectfully where they havn't aligned with my opinion. There was one I mis read and I apologised, retracted my comment. You are now just making stuff up
No long term playing is thinking our mains are getting deleted or we are starting again we all understand what season 2.0 revamp is we just don't want it, to be only able to play the last two weeks of a season with a char i have spent thousands of hours playing and maintaining while keeping the game alive is a kick in my teeth to the hours I've dedicated to the game. It should be an option you opt in or out of, that way new players can play it and any other player that wants to try it with a seasonal char can by using the opt in. It's wrong and the backlash is going to be massive and it will not end well and trust me they will reverse it. For the record i would also opt in and try it with a fresh seasonal char but only after i had cleared the content on my main.
G, I absolutely hate this idea. I don’t want a new character. I have 6k+ hours on this game, I love my builds, I want to play my way. I’m so disappointed the direction this game is going. I’ve said it from the start, these devs DON’T PLAY THE GAME. They have no clue. So now instead of giving us new raids or incursions, they’re making us start with new characters because they’re too lazy or clueless as to how to progress the story. I’m sorry to say it, but I will be playing Destiny more. They really know how to make a game.
Let’s be real this is a time Gate to content, this is an another loop for player engagement. Most people don’t have the time and the attention to do this releveling a character each season. You say it’s easier to level up which is not true they have nerfed xp gains, if they want to penalize players in this way to push them into this new seasonal content that’s bad game design. I understand this is perfect content for and your channel but the content is not worth it for regular players faux season long global events and sub par gear isn’t worth it.
They say it themselves, it will be easy to level up and complete the content. I am gonna trust them who have created the system.
@@GCROCK to your point you trust them to make leveling easier that’s fair, but ask yourself how are they going to do this? this just shows the devs are reverting the changes they made to xp gains in previous seasons and updates then, and that’s a spit in the face. As I said this will be content for channel but most players don’t like this.
@@_Smile_Today Im sure the XP is just bugged. There was no mention of this in patch notes. And the "Content for your channel" contradicts the point you make about most people not liking this. I only get views if people like the content.
We have no idea how any of this will work yet. Yet people are making up their minds already. None of this makes any sense at all to me.
@@GCROCK please stop being disingenuous, you played Diablo 4 a year ago you know what the concept of seasonal gameplay in a looter is, it’s not going to change for the division 2 either and to quote a Ubisoft character “did I ever tell you what the definition of insanity is? Insanity is doing the exact same thing over and over again, and expecting shit to change” that’s what players are complaining about, no one wants releveling a character over and over as content that’s a waste of time, and then you’re doing the same missions over again and again.
Since you think I’m contradicting what I’m saying in “the content for your channel” and people not liking it, so let me clarify people not liking the content of the games update, but both can be true, people can not like the content of the game play and still watch your stream or your videos, people come to watch you and be apart of your community.
@@_Smile_Today Diablo 4 is seen as being in a great place with its seasonal characters once they balanced it correctly. If done right it works. We dont even know how this will work yet. You are judging something that you have no clue about, just assumptions.
I spoke to a teammate yesterday, he said he lost all his characters, i said how did you lose yours, when i have all mine???? 😂😂😂😂
If I cant use my main character to do the seasons then Im out, Im done with these stupid things they keep forcing on us.
If the new seasonal content and gear isn't accessible to my main then there's no reason for me to continue to play the game. So, your main is stagnant until the season ends? Which could be 3 months or 6 months if something goes wrong? No thanks. If I wanted the feel of starting a new game with a new character for new gear, I wouldn't do it on an old broken game like the division.
Hi and ty for info. Watched the livestream on and off yesterday and it was a period with lots of talking about watch mules etc. Even I got cofused at a short time. :) Ty for streams Mr G and keep it up! :)
I don't like the idea but we'll see what happens. However locking you out your main character out of new content is just dumb. I also feel the game is way easier after this update. I've always played on the highest world tier and on heroic since it released and I'm blowing through missions/check points in minutes. Doesn't feel challenging anymore
Man I hate that I could never get into these games earlier I owned them both since they released I just could never get into because I had no friends that liked the game now I gotta watch RUclips videos to catch up but it’s honestly all over the place
The majority of the content is designed to boost interest in the game, gain new players or pull back in returning players, they are trying new seasonal structures to be more inline with current and up to date live service games, I understand a lot of people’s frustrations and seasonal characters feels like such a drop of the ball, however, I will hold my breath as I believe the team behind the game have not only interest in driving future sales of the game and Division 3 but they want to bring new content and ways to play for Veteran and Hardcore players. Not everything is going to work.
Seasonal content is amongst the only stuff i can really do on characters. If this is all true and i cant max a character in 4 hours im gonna have to drop the game here. Just too much to be able to redo all that on top of gear.
So my main character is not going to be able to enjoy the new content or lore, so he went to NY for no reason?
You will be able to though
I started playing this game a couple days ago and im super lost i cant even get the seasonpass it re directs me to mainpage of steam 😅 im so lost on how this all works
You will need to get to level 40. Have you done this??
@@GCROCK no im still running through the main story line so far
This just copies a functionality of Diablo 4. Players have to start from scratch with a new character in a season and gear (that blizzard deems ok to transfer) at the end of that characters season can transfer to your main non seasonal character.
It sucks.
It comes across as them padding “time people spent playing” the game. If people want to use their already high level geared character, let them. If they want to create a new character let them. Give players a choice. Bleh. Their player count will drop and they’ll either revert it back or use it as an excuse to turn their servers off. I’ll move on. Oh well.
Sounds like the community wants the Division to not become Diablo. Division 2 is now a sandbox for Division 3. There will be changes that may be either positive and negative. We shall all see. Regardless, feedback is important.
I think people are tunnel visioned on the Diablo concept. I don't see this being anywhere near what Diablo does. What diablo does works for Diablo and we can hope what Massive do with a seasonal character system for The Division, works for The Division. Like you said, time will tell. I am sure if it flops completely then they will have to take another look at it.
Well explained. I dont know what the hate is about. I had wished for a seasonal format after I level my 2nd agent as a mule. I also happen to delete one of my agent by accident, and it was actually very refreshing to be able to loot and get excited for god rolls again :D. D2 has such vast open world and storytelling that I found myself want to do over once every 3~4 months. Its kinda like watching/reading your favorite movie/book again.
With you on this. People just love to hate even when they don't even know what they are hating on. We don't even know how they will add their spin on this yet.
I make a video to answer the confusion that I saw in my stream yesterday and the haters still gotta come and shit on it.
So glad I was brought up with some class. This new generation of self entitled keyboard warriors is embarrasing to say the least
@@GCROCKand you're hating on everyone's opinions which makes you a hater, dont be a hypocrite...and you yourself are a key board warrior. Called everyone names, gtfoh dude. You know nothing like the rest of us, stop acting like you know more.
The point of season is to start over... If you want to play your old character then just play it, why does it have to do these particular stories that are specifically there for SEASONS.
Without those, the seasons wouldn't have as much appeal. Starting over is fun, try something new, your character isnt going anywhere. Or just dont do seasons... Your main will get the seasonal gear when the next one starts, otherwise whats the point?! That would just be "added content" instead of a true "seasonal"
sounds like a case of poor communication on Ubi's behalf...
I would say its more jumping to conclusions. The communication is there but people tunnel vision and then jump on the hate train.
Obviously we can all always do better. But they were clear this was a season 2 thing, they were clear more information will be coming. We should learn a lot more in August.
I see a lot of confused people from the lack of more information and then the fall out over social media.
That kind of sounds annoying
I can’t use my primary character for the season the character that I spent ages to get the builds for or better yet the characters that I’ve “just” got the build for that I’m gonna want to use for awhile
The build that I may have just struck genius over that’s gonna be complete torture what’s this new season out? Oh that’s right I can’t use my new build that sounds so annoying even if they are new character
I thought that they were gonna add new difficulty to the missions
Hi, I do think Ubisoft should have shown everyone what this was all about they need to engage with the players more and not just put out statements this would have helped.
As Ubisoft is freezing moneys on games until later next year for funding advertising and dlc of the new Star Wars game coming out soon. I’m hoping The Division 3 will come soon
I think it has great potential to be an amazing game but I have little faith in Ubisoft D2 countless glitches bugs and on going problems that they will not fix and yes some are out of their control.due to old consoles that the game was made for
A new version of D2 game for the new consoles should have been started 3 years ago but hey.
I think you are the one confused/out of touch with what the community is upset about.
I think I get it, they are upset about an idea that hasn't been fully revealed yet. A lot of people are just confused though and this was for them.
@@GCROCK It felt pretty self explanatory. They are doing away with expertise bonuses and SHD lvl bonuses by forcing you to make a seasonal character that resets every season. The problem is everyone’s main character has been heavily invested into builds,resources,time… if you can’t use your main for any “new” content what’s the point.
@@MattW6314 Where do they say they are doing away with that? Maybe on seasonal character yes but is this not something to work on for your main still?
This change is just seasonal content. Not any other fresh content. So think DLC and new Brooklyn map, think new incursions, potential new modes, new raids if they go back in that direction, new legendary missions. All this will be for our main powerful characters that we have been working on.
Seasonal characters will also work towards our main as everything gets transfered.
I am not trying to say you are wrong but I am struggling to see how our mains will be redundant.
I also think it is self explanatory and this is how I am seeing it. What we need to so is wait for the full reveal I guess.
@@GCROCK When I say they are doing away with the SHD and Expertise I mean for the seasonal content. The season is like 4 months long so the guy that I’ve been working on for the past 5 years that has the SHD maxed the Expertise maxed and my build built to my play style I CANT use on seasonal stuff because they want to reset everyone to 0. There should be an option if you like seasonal characters more power to you. The vibe seems like 90% of the veteran community understands what they’re doing and doesn’t agree especially after how loyal we’ve been through the repetitive sub par content we’ve gotten.
@@MattW6314I know what you are saying. But what I am saying is how much of that 4 months do you spend on the season now?
I think for most vets that you mention we spend a day or a few days on the season track, we spend 30 mins on each manhunt if we can be bothered, we spend some time on the leagues if we can be bothered. And then there are the global events which are hit and miss. You then have apparel events which can again be done quick. Its safe to assume a lot of people have left because of this model. Most vets still playing are working on watch levels and expertise for the most part.
Given that most of the playerbase right now is new and returning players, they still have a lot to do on this part.
If anything, the new seasonal characters will give vets more reason to stick around and enjoy the game each season with staggered and more meaningful content.
As far as I can tell, seasonal characters work very well on other games. Keeping things fresh, keeping players entertained without doing the same old thing every season.
Im excited for this change personally and have spoke to a lot of others who are. I surround myseld with positive people though and don't read too much into a hate train on something where lets be honest, we have no idea how it is going to work yet.
One example I have is my best mate. I have been trying to make him stick on this game for years but he hates the seasonal model. He jumps on with me if I need him but he calls me yesterday and says they are finally doing something with seasons.. This might be what makes me play the game if they do it well.
If we just look at social media comments then yeah, looks like a lot of angry people. If we include the people that are not playing the game no more, and the more positive people, basically the ones that wont be sharing their opinions, you will also see a lot of people excited to see where this goes.
I think everyone in this divide just needs to agree to disagree, accept we have different opinions and see what happens. I think if it flops as hard as a lot of people think then they would reavaluate it for sure.
its about not using your main character it becomes useless,for the seasons, after spending 3389 hours season characters is stupid for a looter shooter.. diablo or path of exile' makes sense the time invested to get max expertise level upgraded the gear to max expertise
is for nothing we have to make a new character to play the new seasons .that is just a joke the devs have no idea what the players want like more incursions/locations .bigger darkzone like in div1
Personaly dont see any issue using a new character to make seasons more fun. I will still be working on my main to do all the endgame content and the new content coming. I feel for people at the end of their main character progression this will be a nice way to enjoy the seasons more. More content is coming and this content will be for your main so its still worth reaching that pinnacle with it.
You don’t lose your mains, but you’ll never use them again.
Guarentee you will use your main day one once you are done with whatever seasonal stuff they have for the first week
@@GCROCK well for that to happen I’d have to make a seasonal character. Which I won’t. Plenty of other good games out there to play.
@@PeopleRTheProblem 😂 Okay. Well this is obvs one of them. Thats why your here commenting on a div video. And if you dont try something out how can you even judge? Genuine question.
@@GCROCK is there nothing in your life you can say you don’t like even though you’ve not tried it? And this was one of them. Cutting everyone off from seasonal content isn’t something I’m a fan of
I just dont see how they are cutting anyone or anything off. This confuses me no end. So you can
1) stay the same, sign in every three weeks to play 20 minutes of rushed manhunt because its the same old control points and bounties it has been for years now. Only plus is having a few days grind of a season pass every 4 months.
2) Switch things up. They have decided on seasonal characters where you will have weekly content to do rather than three weekly and as its a new server they are going to introduce seasonal modifiers which nobody knows what they are yet. Allowing each season to be different because of said modifiers. The one downside, waiting for season track rewards if you dont want to do it.
Climax mission has to be the best thing about this and is available to main also. The climax miasion now asnit is, is the only good thing about the seasonal content bar the season pass. Plus they are adding a master difficulty intended for 4 players on these which will suit those that like incursion style content.
How can anyone can judge this before they try as we have no clue as to what they plans are with the modifiers etc. And master mission. But yes, you are free to judge before you try for sure.
But going back to your original message. People that continue to play will still use their mains. This isn't Diablo.
This video was a waste of time🤦♂️
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Here i started new agent for nothing LUL this season
😂😂 Hope you didn't delete one to be able to do that
Drinking game:
Every time someone said the words "start over" in G's stream chat yesterday, take a shot.
You will get annihilated in the first couple hours.
I’m all for the seasonal characters but I think it would be awesome to after the seasonal grind and all we earned from it we take that xp and loot to our mains and then get to experience a new pinnacle experience made to challenge our main characters to their limits at the end of the seasonal grind. Engaging and interacting with the seasonal grind would give us the tools to be able to tackle each season’s hardest challenge specifically designed for our main characters. Would give seasonal characters a solid complement to our mains. That pinnacle activity could reward us with seasonal apparel to show we completed the season.