I hope BMD's end game is to create their own 12K+ Digital IMAX Projector to pair with their 17K 65mm sensor! They’ll seriously be leaders in that entire sector.
They have accessed the Pyxis 6k announcement already and the cam mod is going ahead. You have to consider, that the Pyxis is the 6k FF variant. The mod is based on the Super 35 sensor. So it's still viable.
@@EmeraldAudiovisual Also they are making them in very limited quantity. It's more so a passion project, not some sort of business venture. So I don't think people could have really expected to buy the camera mod version in any real capacity.
@@frankfeng2701 I got mine 2nd hand for cheap ($50) so I jumped on that quickly. I still use a v-mount as well for my Ninja V and FX6 if it happens to run low on juice.
I wouldn't be too disappointed about the 13 stops of dynamic range. Most FF cinema cameras claim higher dynamic range but when put through lab tests that all cut off at 13 stops. Only Arri gets beyond 14. What you're dealing with is the S-curve in regards to highlight roll-off and where middle grey sits.
Yep, Blackmagic is very conservative in their DR rating. The stops they advertise is usually what you can ACTUALLY get. Other companies use noise-reduction and other pre-processing to advertise an extra 1-2 stops.
@@David_Schwarz_DOP this 100%. CineD has done lab tests similar to Geralds that have clocked the FX6 right around 12.6, while the 6K full frame on the same lab test has shown 12.9. DR claims are typically just a gimmick with the exception of ARRI.
They should make a monitor for the PYXIS that would connect to the viewfinder port in the front - that would solve multiple issues raised here and in the comments (expensive EVF, lack of a top screen, etc.)
Can you find out if they are moving entirely away from Prores? Obviously you can attach a video assist, but with the most recent cameras from Blackmagic, it seems there's a higher focus on braw and a complete abandonment of Prores in the cameras. Is this a licensing issue with Apple? I just want to understand why it's important for them to make you use braw for everything. I'm already cutting in DaVinci Prores or not. Thanks!
I never understood why they are going away from it either. RED, Arri and Sony are recording in ProRes. Even Kinefinity lets you record in 12 bit 4444 ProRes on thier cameras in high resolutions and frame rates 🤷♂️
Totally blown away. Stunned. I think there is no one out there who watched the stream that was expecting this much! 3 things you could ask them about: -Camera control from Video Assist (Especially important now, so you could rig a VideoAssist on top of the new box camera and use that as control monitor in certain scenarios). When Portkeys can do it, why not BMD?? -A lower end OVF for like 500€-700€. The new one seems good, but i just need a good enough solution, not a high end cinema quality one that cost nearly as much as the new Box camera. The options on the market are so bad quality/buggy, outdated and or overpriced. -Adding WIFI to future cameras, so phones can finally be used as wireless monitors.
Stop griping about the Dynamic Range. People forget Sony and RED both rate their cameras ENTIRE dynamic range based off their sensors maximum patch range, including the entire noise floor, rounded up, where as Blackmagic, a lot like ARRI , rates their Dynamic Range based off the USABLE Dynamic Range rounded up. The reason this matters is both Sony and RED are overestimating their total dynamic range to include the removal of all noise from the resulting image. That means one can't actually hit the claimed Dynamic Range of most if not all Sony or RED cameras. Sure they can claim 15 to 17 stops, but if the sensors patch range is only 14.x to 15.x stops then one can't actually achieve the claimed DR even if one some how managed to remove all the noise. AKA at this point, based off the Cine-D lab tests, NO tested RED camera can exceed 16 stops of DR period, because none have a patch range over 16 stops. Blackmagic cameras, on the other hand, have patch ranges that have gone as high as 16.6 stops (Ursa 12k), and yet they've never claimed any of their cameras to have above 15 stops for any of their cameras (prior to this years announcement). That means if one were able to recover the full image patch range from a Blackmagic URSA 12k it would exceed the patch range of anything other than an ARRI. Also it should be pointed out many of the Cine-D tests don't do apples to apples DR comparisons, because some cameras have internal NR where as Blackmagic and most other Cinema Cameras DO NOT. If one adds an equivalent amount of NR to the Blackmagic Cameras they often exceed the tested competition that have built in NR like the A7SIII. That is why it's foolish to gripe about claimed DR unless one has actually done and apples to apples comparison, and in most cases Blackmagic cameras are much better than people give them credit for.
The fixed screen on the side combined with the EVF, means that it's ideal for shoulder rig operation. Just make sure to put on a good screen protector.
Interview question: would it be theoretically possible to run a screen off the front evf usb port? ie how many watts of power does it supply and is it a normal standard of video? A one cable solution there would be sick!
I don't understand why folks are b-ing and moaning and nagging about the side screen. Arri, reds, Sony cine have screens on the side. I shoot with a monitor on komodo. this is a cine cam guys!!! no camera under $3000 packs so much features. if u don't like it, stick with the previous version or other dslrs
@@David_Schwarz_DOP I thought the same until I had one die in my R5 on a wedding day 😬 very happy I was dual recording. Would be great to be able to in the blackmagic!
this is all so wild, got my G2 delivered two weeks ago, 3 days later they dropped the huge Cinema camera update, started practicing on studio resolve 18, and now 19 is released the next week. THIS IS A WHIRLWIND LMFAO
@@ChrisParayno oh im very happy with my g2, its more that i bought it not knowing any of this big news was coming up and it all happened RIGHT after i got the camera 😂just makes everything more exciting!!
I’m REALLY hoping they don’t completely abandone MFT. I also have a lot of nice cinema glass in MFT. They’re my go-to for documentary and travel show work. Keeps the build super light with appropriate depth of field for that work.
Frame rates on a camera are often an indicator of the sensors readout speed and rolling shutter. They probably can't get higher frame rates at lower resolutions because of the amount of time it takes to read the sensor. But being able to do 100 frames a second at 12K means it still has a pretty fast readout time and should have decent rolling shutter performance.
Cropping on a sensor shorten the readout speed. Less pixel to read = less time to read the pixels. Every full frame offering s35 crop have better performance in rolling shutter in crop mode, and not by a small margin. So no rolling shutter does not limit the frame rate at lower pixel ratios. What could be a problem is if these modes are not crop but oversample. Oversampling needs to read the whole sensor
@@lucasvivante8988 sorry I should clarify that I was only referring to the s35 9k crop. Framerate and rolling shutter are still limited by how fast the sensor can dump heat and electrons before recapturing capture light. When you crop to s35 you aren't necessarily reading that area out any faster than in full frame. It's kinda like depth of field when you use the same lens on ff and s35. The depth of field doesn't change but our perception overall does due to the larger area on ff. I could be way off base, but currently my thinking is due to the pixel density when reading the whole ff or 35 area the camera cant keep up with the heat to read out any faster. When dropping to 8k ff blackmagic say with their new Bayer pattern they are pixels skipping, so you have fewer pixels to read and a larger area to dissipate heat. You are correct that cropping does increase readout speed, but there can be other factors. But the original point I was kinda trying to make is that slow framerates doesn't necessarily mean slow readout, but high frame rights do mean fast read outs.
@@lucasvivante8988 sorry I should have clarified. I'm referring to the 9k s35 crop. A sensors readout speed and in turn rolling shutter and framerates can also be effected by how fast a sensor can dump heat and electrons before recapturing light for the next frame. Your correct that cropping to s35 does increase read speed and reduce overall rolling shutter but in the same way we effect perceived depth of field when using the same lens on s35 and full frame. The camera doesn't actually read the super 35 area any faster than in full frame mode, but it can start reading the next frame sooner cause there is less to read. If you overlay the s35 capture it's effective on full frame the rolling shutter often lines up assuming no processing or data limitations. I could be way off base but my thinking here is that due to the pixel density in ff 12k and s35 9k the camera cant cool the sensor effectively enough to increase the read out and framerate. Blackmagic said that their with their new Bayer pattern on the 12k sensor they are pixel skipping. So when they reduce resolution on full frame they have a greater area for fewer pixels allowing the camera to read out more frames while still cooling effectively. What I was kinda trying to say on my original comment is that low framerates dont necessarily mean a slow readout, but fast framerates mean that the readout has to be faster meaning the rolling shutter is reduced.
As Much as the fixed screen kinda sucks. Atleast it's made in a way so that you can strap a Vmount to the camera and it doesnt completely hinders the form factor of the camera like the pockets/full frame. Sure you still gotta get a external monitor (And not a HDMI monitor so its gonna hard to get a cheapy one) But The box design and side plates is a game changer for rigging.
Grant hates subscriptions but what they should do is offer a higher level of customer support that’s paid, comes with the cloud, etc. I do buy their hardware from time to time and feel good about supporting them, but yes my dongle from Resolve version 9 is what I’m using!!! I do have a license that came with the speed editor I use for my laptop. I did buy the keycaps for $600 a few years ago to update my advanced panel to V2 (but bought that used) so not sure when I’ll be buying new BMD hardware.
Funny. I much prefer the monitor on the side rather than the top or the back. When I direct actors I’m usually standing on the side or I have the camera at the height of the actor meaning it’s hard for me to see the top of the camera. It also makes the monitor still useful if and when you buy a top external monitor
I said before that they need to release a whole new legacy camera and they did it. No refreshed pocket cams but a whole new cinema line and bam!!! The PYXIS is here!!! And for an amazing price too!!!
I use 95Wh BPUs to power Pocket 4Ks with wireless transmitters, wireless follow focus, zoom, and VND control and get 2-3 hours. Pretty solid battery choice, if you ask me.
Darn, i was hoping for that box camera to be global shutter, like komodo. I wish they would modernize the Production Camera 4K which was global shutter, and was using normal 2.5" SSD. That was genius idea. I dont get it, why there is not quick-mount for m.2 drives in their cameras. The new module they presented is kinda like that, but it looks expensive. There should be an option for just 1 fast nvme drive connected directly to the camera and no stupid USB bridges.
I’m amazed at the price of this truly professional camera. I read that rolling shutter could be a big issue on this camera, so hopefully Resolve’s rolling shutter fix can improve on that.
So far my only gripe is the location of the SDI ports in relation to the battery port - especially when wanting to mount v mount or gold mount options. Can you ask BM if there will be a solution for that? Or when you see it in person can you see how much real estate there is to fit a v mount battery/plate back there? Thanks!
This is just add perspective for the people complaining about the dynamic range of the pyxis. So here is cineD dynamic range test done to a signal to noise ration of 2. The new bmcc6k gets a score of 11.7 so the pyxis will be the same as it the same sensor. A $3000 camera can’t get much more DR. The bmpcc og had a score of 11.2 and it’s 10 years old. Sure a $25000-$80000 camera has more if your lucky a true DR of 13-15. 1 ARRI ALEXA 35 15.3 2 ARRI ALEXA Classic 13.8 3 RED V-RAPTOR 8K VV 13.7 4 ARRI ALEXA Mini LF 13.5 5 Sony VENICE 2 8K. 13.2 6 Canon EOS C500 MII 13.1 7 Sony Alpha a7 IV 12.9 8 FUJIFILM GFX100 II 12.8 9 Canon EOS C300 MIII 12.8 10 Canon EOS C70 12.8 11 RED V-RAPTOR [X] 8K VV 12.8 12 Panasonic LUMIX S1H 12.7 13 Sony Alpha a1 12.7 14 Blackmagic Design URSA Mini Pro 4.6K G2 12.6 15 Blackmagic Design URSA Mini Pro 4.6K 12.6 16 RED KOMODO 6K 12.5 17 DJI Ronin 4D 6K 12.4 18 Sony Alpha a7S III 12.4 19 Sony ZV-E1 12.4 20 Sony Alpha a7CR 12.4
Hey buddy, if the PYCIS_6K would have 13 stops of dynamic range - that would be more than great - even the URSA camerad had less than 13 stops of dynamic range (based on 2:1SNR XYLA tests) !!! Numbers on papers can't be trusted tbh !!!
For the PYXIS 6K - I know we want it to be a single user, but the side screen is for a focus puller. Everyone needs a buddy. It's great that the RHS plate dimensions are available, to make your own mounts for whatever you are doing. Please use metal CNC, and not 3D Printer plastic. Otherwise use base mount gear, which is plentiful.
Most important question: why did they ditch ProRes? I know that Brad is highly potent codec and I love using it. But for some projects I would need h.264 or ProRes and record FullHD without cropping. The small codec variety makes this camera unusable for certain projects which is a BIG PROBLEM for a small production company.
I’m both thrilled and disappointed by this release. Thrilled because the “box camera” is finally in the BM ecosphere and will be going forward into the foreseeable future. However, I’m exceptionally bummed because the frame rate is beyond laughable at this point. Come on, in 2024 anything less than 6k 120 fps is, in my opinion, unacceptable. The other two big disappointments are no swiveling/tilting onboard monitor and no internal ND. These are all (minus the frame rate) things we’ve seen them do on the BM Pocket. I know…I had one before I sold it for a Komodo. I was really hoping to sell the Komodo and go all in on Blackmagic….but there is no point here. Also, what’s the deal with EF mount over RF? Just give us an RF mounting option so we can choose which Canon glass we want to use. I know the flange distance would be tighter, but I also know it’s doable. Anyways, guess I’ll be waiting for Gen 2 of this. Still, it’s very exciting to know this camera finally, FINALLY exists. They just need to perfect it before I buy it.
I feel like the monitor on the side of the PYXIS is basically like the 1st AC monitor for the Ursa 12k because the thought was that most people are using external monitors anyways.
While the price is the main draw, what its missing is glaring. Those hyping it up without experiencing it on a paid shoot may find themselves regrettably coming back down to Earth. I believe DM will take the tempeture of this offering and use the feedback to create the Pyxes Pro that should have build in ND, 15 stop range, 4K at 60 or even 120fps and 14 and maybe even 16 bit internal recording. With those upgrades, those hyping up the price of the Pyxis will also hype up a $4K to $5K price.
And I thought Blackmagic only made those ugly little plasticky portable v-cameras…not a video guy myself, but the latest tech interests me. Also, I thought Blackmagic were a small company…where did they get the R&D budget for this myriad of products? 🤷♂️
I miss the Global Shutter from Blackmagic. I like that they did the box camera, weird that the screen on the side, should have been on the top, but I wanted a Global Shutter in it. I basically want a cheaper Red Komodo from BM.
Internal ND's and lack of full sized XLR input is a let down for me, as well as no RF Mount. I shoot mainly canon and also shoot photos with the R3 and going to get the R1 when it drops. I left the EF mount a long time ago. I really want to like this camera, but it's just not for me. Waiting for the next C300 and hopefully it's a refresh/bigger update with the intro to the RF lineup.
The Pyxis is a STEAL at $2995. I can see Panasonic having to cut the price of their competing BGH-1 box camera to get them to move off the shelves once the Pyxis is available for sale.
Here my question. 1. Could we see an update where we can record higher fps at open gate via sdi recording on video assist 12G? 2. Would it be possible to run usbc to video assist 12G for image and power if we don’t want the EVF? 3. Any potential of making a dedicated monitors? Say take the video assist 12gs and take away the external recording components. In order to make just a monitor that also has USB-C for image signal and camera controls without having to use the side screen. 3. Can the screen be set to auto off and tap to wake like a phone? To save battery when not using it until we need to?
I don’t really understand why they chose to slap big monitors on the sides of the new ursa. When using a cinema camera setup you need the side of the camera for transmitter, AC gear etc. Now you can’t because there is a big screen there without mounting options. So for proper narrative work I’m afraid this new 12K is difficult to work with. The Pyxis is fine with a fixed screen but again, I wished it was smaller for just menus and quick viewing and leave more room for mounting. And just like the cinema 6k it will have pretty heavy cmos smearing and rolling shutter on FF. As a s35 cam it is great though as long as you can light your scenes decently.
Don't know why People are so excited. Weird shape, unnessesary huge screen and the same sensor with bad rolling shutter. It's not even have ND. An old fx6 smokes this camera right away.
I've always just gawked at cinema cameras because they're just so beautiful. I never felt like buying a BMPCC or similar because I only shoot stills. However... $3k for a 6K box format camera makes my heart flutter. I want one to play with. I want one.
Resolve 19 was the most exciting lol 😂, just not sure why blackmagic cameras have never popped up on any of the NETFLIX approved cameras with all the features they pack into their bodies like an insane 12k or 17 freaking K
A box camera is amazing don’t get me wrong, but I really don’t get the hype about a box camera. Like yes maybe it’s easier to mount on a gimbal etc, but you lose a lot of quality of life features - the ability to just go out, be creative, and be nimble with a point and shoot system. I understand it’s a separate camera, I just hope they don’t discontinue the pocket series.
It would be good if the guy stuck to the review - instead of talking how he feels - might as well keep saying 'whoop', awesome, just saying, OMG' and all that other verbal diarrhoea. Gone to find a more sensible review - two minutes of this shit was enough
@initialfocus Can you please ask BMD when they will produce a high quality colorist’s monitor? Hopefully something affordable that can replace these super expensive monitors like those from Flanders Scientific, et al.
And that box is so utterly stupid. Monitor on the side. Nothing better over the og pocket 6k pro other than open gate. So I can not have a side handle if I want tobias the Monitor? LOL People argue about the format of the pocket .. but the monitor is such an advantage, I own the Komodo x too, but boy do I love the monitor of the 6k pro. Still the same idiotic dc port 🤪
Atomos is doing a decent job at making older gear better or cheaper too. They gave the 2018 Ninja V a paid firmware update that gives it all the modern OS features of their latest monitors.
Really great upgrades! The only thing I miss with new 6k are ingrated ND filters. This would make it stunning. But what do you think of the new Micro Panel? I really think about selling my BM Mini Panel for the new Micro Panel, because it has much more buttons and functions and is portable like no other.
didn't see any info on the bit depth of the new camera. please tell me its not 10 or 12 bit...Braw is 12.. so i'm hoping there's something else going on inside the box... If it's not 16 bit, then its of limited value as compared to the arri or sony
Black magic boxcam 😂😂😂 too little too late RED even sold because in a few years they cant legally still bogard Raw codec 😂😂😂 Sony raw will make Black magic look over saturated and will lean more to true alexa colors
This wil be great for Zoom calls with my friends.
the PYXIS will sell like the 4k. An inexpensive run stop handle and a touch control monitor and boom!!
The side screen is just for menus but gives you video playback as a bonus if you need to check something fast without a proper monitor attached.
I hope BMD's end game is to create their own 12K+ Digital IMAX Projector to pair with their 17K 65mm sensor! They’ll seriously be leaders in that entire sector.
Canon in late May with the launch of the R5II and R1 will be like “hold my beer 🍺 “ 😂
I can not wait to hook up my panasonic 20 60 f3.5-5.6 kit lens to the 17k 😂
You think they’re looking at people using their phones as monitors?
It’s Christmas for us Blackmagic Fan boys 🎉
Christmas came... late? or Early? Who cares Blackmagic rules!
@@ConstructionKroniesa bit later, but finally haha.
Fanboys, fangirls and fanNBs 😂
I just wished they brought this out at the end of the company tax year not the start xD
they did the side monitor just to prove to all those box people all these years why the pocket design had to be wide for a reason XD
Haha! 🙂
Internal ND would've been the icing on the cake. Still getting it as soon as I can tho lol
The people working on that box cam mod for the Pocket 6k must be having a bad day....
He actually made a video and was very excited
@@jaysnappsmediallc Cool! Hopefully he didn't invest too much into his own project. I imagine this kills it.
Was thinking the same thing
They have accessed the Pyxis 6k announcement already and the cam mod is going ahead. You have to consider, that the Pyxis is the 6k FF variant. The mod is based on the Super 35 sensor. So it's still viable.
@@EmeraldAudiovisual Also they are making them in very limited quantity. It's more so a passion project, not some sort of business venture. So I don't think people could have really expected to buy the camera mod version in any real capacity.
I love that the usb-c ports are locking ports.
I hate this USB c shit
@@whoiam3410make a better open standard. I'm waiting
@@whoiam3410 usb c is for cloud stuff
(the bigger) BP-U batteries can power the FX6 for ~3+ hours - they are no joke. Much nicer than a massive battery hanging off the back of the camera
BP-U batteries are pretty affordable these days, plus they can act as a redundant power when a V-mount is plugged in at the same time.
they can protrude a lot though, my U98 extends like 5 cm outside the body.
@@KPOPPERjp You can use a smaller one and still mount a V mount at the back via 15mm rail.
@@frankfeng2701 I got mine 2nd hand for cheap ($50) so I jumped on that quickly. I still use a v-mount as well for my Ninja V and FX6 if it happens to run low on juice.
I'm quite sure the fx6 is a much lower power camera. But even if we get ~100 mins that would be great
The URSA Cine 17K camera blew my mind. Now we have three digital cameras that comes close to true IMAX
Yep, with fast lenses and this much dynamic range… it’ll be easy to come close to that IMAX “wide-yet-shallow” looking image.
I wouldn't be too disappointed about the 13 stops of dynamic range. Most FF cinema cameras claim higher dynamic range but when put through lab tests that all cut off at 13 stops. Only Arri gets beyond 14. What you're dealing with is the S-curve in regards to highlight roll-off and where middle grey sits.
Even the beloved FX3 has only 12.7 (gerald undone Video) even though they claim it's 15.. So 13 is just fine. :)
Yep, Blackmagic is very conservative in their DR rating. The stops they advertise is usually what you can ACTUALLY get. Other companies use noise-reduction and other pre-processing to advertise an extra 1-2 stops.
@@David_Schwarz_DOP this 100%. CineD has done lab tests similar to Geralds that have clocked the FX6 right around 12.6, while the 6K full frame on the same lab test has shown 12.9. DR claims are typically just a gimmick with the exception of ARRI.
Dude.. my 16 steps dr Komodo x‘s dynamic range is a true killer of the 13
@@d_FLDE I’ve used many Reds including Komodo… and even the Pocket 6K was about the same. Red is notorious for overrating DR by 2-3 stops.
They should make a monitor for the PYXIS that would connect to the viewfinder port in the front - that would solve multiple issues raised here and in the comments (expensive EVF, lack of a top screen, etc.)
Cry out loud Sony shooters! Haters gonna hate now 🎥😎 BM taking over the market!
Can you find out if they are moving entirely away from Prores? Obviously you can attach a video assist, but with the most recent cameras from Blackmagic, it seems there's a higher focus on braw and a complete abandonment of Prores in the cameras. Is this a licensing issue with Apple? I just want to understand why it's important for them to make you use braw for everything. I'm already cutting in DaVinci Prores or not. Thanks!
Maybe is a matter of space, the higher they go on resolution and fps, the less an internal ProRes became usable/sufficient.
I never understood why they are going away from it either. RED, Arri and Sony are recording in ProRes. Even Kinefinity lets you record in 12 bit 4444 ProRes on thier cameras in high resolutions and frame rates 🤷♂️
Totally blown away. Stunned. I think there is no one out there who watched the stream that was expecting this much!
3 things you could ask them about:
-Camera control from Video Assist (Especially important now, so you could rig a VideoAssist on top of the new box camera and use that as control monitor in certain scenarios).
When Portkeys can do it, why not BMD??
-A lower end OVF for like 500€-700€. The new one seems good, but i just need a good enough solution, not a high end cinema quality one that cost nearly as much as the new Box camera. The options on the market are so bad quality/buggy, outdated and or overpriced.
-Adding WIFI to future cameras, so phones can finally be used as wireless monitors.
Stop griping about the Dynamic Range. People forget Sony and RED both rate their cameras ENTIRE dynamic range based off their sensors maximum patch range, including the entire noise floor, rounded up, where as Blackmagic, a lot like ARRI , rates their Dynamic Range based off the USABLE Dynamic Range rounded up. The reason this matters is both Sony and RED are overestimating their total dynamic range to include the removal of all noise from the resulting image. That means one can't actually hit the claimed Dynamic Range of most if not all Sony or RED cameras. Sure they can claim 15 to 17 stops, but if the sensors patch range is only 14.x to 15.x stops then one can't actually achieve the claimed DR even if one some how managed to remove all the noise. AKA at this point, based off the Cine-D lab tests, NO tested RED camera can exceed 16 stops of DR period, because none have a patch range over 16 stops. Blackmagic cameras, on the other hand, have patch ranges that have gone as high as 16.6 stops (Ursa 12k), and yet they've never claimed any of their cameras to have above 15 stops for any of their cameras (prior to this years announcement). That means if one were able to recover the full image patch range from a Blackmagic URSA 12k it would exceed the patch range of anything other than an ARRI. Also it should be pointed out many of the Cine-D tests don't do apples to apples DR comparisons, because some cameras have internal NR where as Blackmagic and most other Cinema Cameras DO NOT. If one adds an equivalent amount of NR to the Blackmagic Cameras they often exceed the tested competition that have built in NR like the A7SIII. That is why it's foolish to gripe about claimed DR unless one has actually done and apples to apples comparison, and in most cases Blackmagic cameras are much better than people give them credit for.
The fixed screen on the side combined with the EVF, means that it's ideal for shoulder rig operation. Just make sure to put on a good screen protector.
Seriously especially if it’s in a bag with other accessories that can bump it or run up against it!
Interview question: would it be theoretically possible to run a screen off the front evf usb port? ie how many watts of power does it supply and is it a normal standard of video? A one cable solution there would be sick!
INTERVIEW QUESTION
Does the Pyxis have Gyro data like the 6K and 6K pro line????
gyro stab almost completely eliminated the RS on my 6kpro. I was blown away and discovered it quite by accident
This was my first thought as well!!
Their website says so 🙌
It's the same hardware as the FF 6k, so you can pretty much be sure, it does. I mean, even the Micro Studio 4k G2 got gyro !!
Take my money lol
I have been bitching about the ergonomics of the BMPcamera line, and they shut me up, tied up and strapped me down today. DAMN!!!!!
All the modern RED cameras have a screen. Also the BMD Camera OS is based around touchscreen functionality. I love the larger screen on it.
I don't understand why folks are b-ing and moaning and nagging about the side screen. Arri, reds, Sony cine have screens on the side. I shoot with a monitor on komodo. this is a cine cam guys!!!
no camera under $3000 packs so much features. if u don't like it, stick with the previous version or other dslrs
They sure killed it with this launch! 🔥🎥
This camera has been designed to work directly on film sets and is not suitable for filming vacations
Got to say subscription marketing must die. Value is in the early buy in and value. Be smart people.
"This is a thicc BOY" made me laugh haha. I'd love to know if you can simultaneously record to both of the CF cards on the PYXIS
I think these cards are so reliable that you wouldn't have to. But I'm pretty sure you can.
@@David_Schwarz_DOP I thought the same until I had one die in my R5 on a wedding day 😬 very happy I was dual recording. Would be great to be able to in the blackmagic!
this is all so wild, got my G2 delivered two weeks ago, 3 days later they dropped the huge Cinema camera update, started practicing on studio resolve 18, and now 19 is released the next week. THIS IS A WHIRLWIND LMFAO
You're not missing much except unless you want the full frame.
@@ChrisParayno oh im very happy with my g2, its more that i bought it not knowing any of this big news was coming up and it all happened RIGHT after i got the camera 😂just makes everything more exciting!!
PYXIS I Wish they had a MFT ...All my Anamorphic are MTF, but i will be buying something and i think its the color deck
I’m REALLY hoping they don’t completely abandone MFT. I also have a lot of nice cinema glass in MFT. They’re my go-to for documentary and travel show work. Keeps the build super light with appropriate depth of field for that work.
MKII of the box camera is going to be something all camera companies are going to have to watch out for!
They want you to buy one of their monitors that they just reduced in price. That's why the screen is on the side. Also for focus pullers.
You make everything so long. Like a chicken, you keep talking outside of the object.
@@bastelwigames i did.
Frame rates on a camera are often an indicator of the sensors readout speed and rolling shutter. They probably can't get higher frame rates at lower resolutions because of the amount of time it takes to read the sensor. But being able to do 100 frames a second at 12K means it still has a pretty fast readout time and should have decent rolling shutter performance.
IMX410 is one of, if not the most, legendary sensors ever made for the world of prosumer imaging.
Cropping on a sensor shorten the readout speed. Less pixel to read = less time to read the pixels.
Every full frame offering s35 crop have better performance in rolling shutter in crop mode, and not by a small margin. So no rolling shutter does not limit the frame rate at lower pixel ratios.
What could be a problem is if these modes are not crop but oversample. Oversampling needs to read the whole sensor
@@lucasvivante8988 sorry I should clarify that I was only referring to the s35 9k crop. Framerate and rolling shutter are still limited by how fast the sensor can dump heat and electrons before recapturing capture light. When you crop to s35 you aren't necessarily reading that area out any faster than in full frame.
It's kinda like depth of field when you use the same lens on ff and s35. The depth of field doesn't change but our perception overall does due to the larger area on ff.
I could be way off base, but currently my thinking is due to the pixel density when reading the whole ff or 35 area the camera cant keep up with the heat to read out any faster.
When dropping to 8k ff blackmagic say with their new Bayer pattern they are pixels skipping, so you have fewer pixels to read and a larger area to dissipate heat.
You are correct that cropping does increase readout speed, but there can be other factors.
But the original point I was kinda trying to make is that slow framerates doesn't necessarily mean slow readout, but high frame rights do mean fast read outs.
@@lucasvivante8988 sorry I should have clarified. I'm referring to the 9k s35 crop.
A sensors readout speed and in turn rolling shutter and framerates can also be effected by how fast a sensor can dump heat and electrons before recapturing light for the next frame.
Your correct that cropping to s35 does increase read speed and reduce overall rolling shutter but in the same way we effect perceived depth of field when using the same lens on s35 and full frame. The camera doesn't actually read the super 35 area any faster than in full frame mode, but it can start reading the next frame sooner cause there is less to read. If you overlay the s35 capture it's effective on full frame the rolling shutter often lines up assuming no processing or data limitations.
I could be way off base but my thinking here is that due to the pixel density in ff 12k and s35 9k the camera cant cool the sensor effectively enough to increase the read out and framerate. Blackmagic said that their with their new Bayer pattern on the 12k sensor they are pixel skipping. So when they reduce resolution on full frame they have a greater area for fewer pixels allowing the camera to read out more frames while still cooling effectively.
What I was kinda trying to say on my original comment is that low framerates dont necessarily mean a slow readout, but fast framerates mean that the readout has to be faster meaning the rolling shutter is reduced.
As Much as the fixed screen kinda sucks. Atleast it's made in a way so that you can strap a Vmount to the camera and it doesnt completely hinders the form factor of the camera like the pockets/full frame. Sure you still gotta get a external monitor (And not a HDMI monitor so its gonna hard to get a cheapy one) But The box design and side plates is a game changer for rigging.
I'm most excited about the micro color panel
i want a subscription model, im tired of not giving them money for using my davinci since ages ago.
Grant hates subscriptions but what they should do is offer a higher level of customer support that’s paid, comes with the cloud, etc. I do buy their hardware from time to time and feel good about supporting them, but yes my dongle from Resolve version 9 is what I’m using!!! I do have a license that came with the speed editor I use for my laptop. I did buy the keycaps for $600 a few years ago to update my advanced panel to V2 (but bought that used) so not sure when I’ll be buying new BMD hardware.
I think the side screen is good, I’d rather have the top free for mounting
Funny. I much prefer the monitor on the side rather than the top or the back. When I direct actors I’m usually standing on the side or I have the camera at the height of the actor meaning it’s hard for me to see the top of the camera. It also makes the monitor still useful if and when you buy a top external monitor
I said before that they need to release a whole new legacy camera and they did it. No refreshed pocket cams but a whole new cinema line and bam!!! The PYXIS is here!!! And for an amazing price too!!!
100% agreed! Can’t wait to try it out!
I use those batteries powering both my Pocket 6k and monitor and easily get an hour.
I use 95Wh BPUs to power Pocket 4Ks with wireless transmitters, wireless follow focus, zoom, and VND control and get 2-3 hours. Pretty solid battery choice, if you ask me.
Holy fucking shit
I don't need a new camera...I don't need a new camera....I don't need a new camera....
At least it doesn’t come out until like June….so we got some time 😅
This is probably the best modern camera for vlogs
Hahahahaha u want a tilting monitor !!!! Hahaha and it’s rectangular not perfect box ? Hahahaha
They should do a detachable screen which attached with magnets and connects via usb-c while detached,
No more density plugins
Resolve got it all
Im more excited for the audio sync. The mix audio etc
Darn, i was hoping for that box camera to be global shutter, like komodo. I wish they would modernize the Production Camera 4K which was global shutter, and was using normal 2.5" SSD. That was genius idea. I dont get it, why there is not quick-mount for m.2 drives in their cameras. The new module they presented is kinda like that, but it looks expensive. There should be an option for just 1 fast nvme drive connected directly to the camera and no stupid USB bridges.
They went all out, I’m definitely getting the Pyxis
Black magic pyxis 13 stops dynamic range is the main issue I have with this camera. Also no H.265
Basically it’s the Pocket 6K in a box format.
Does the Pyxis have global shutter?
Haha so true about the Blackmagic RUclips titles. Hopefully a sign of smaller name cameras in the future!
No NDs, EVF is 1700, only 13 stops, limited BP batteries. Used Komodo a better move.
I’m amazed at the price of this truly professional camera. I read that rolling shutter could be a big issue on this camera, so hopefully Resolve’s rolling shutter fix can improve on that.
If that car shot at 8:18 is from their demo, who ever masked the car isn’t doing their new tracking any favours! Gross haha
Sony np f batts
Anyone know anything about this cameras Auto focus? Thanks in advance!
So far my only gripe is the location of the SDI ports in relation to the battery port - especially when wanting to mount v mount or gold mount options. Can you ask BM if there will be a solution for that? Or when you see it in person can you see how much real estate there is to fit a v mount battery/plate back there? Thanks!
tilta, smallrig and everybody will make and adapter for vmount batteries. That certainly will extend beyond the sdi port
You can also have a right angle mount for sdi
@@nicolacornolti so true! Thanks for that insight!
This is just add perspective for the people complaining about the dynamic range of the pyxis.
So here is cineD dynamic range test done to a signal to noise ration of 2. The new bmcc6k gets a score of 11.7 so the pyxis will be the same as it the same sensor. A $3000 camera can’t get much more DR. The bmpcc og had a score of 11.2 and it’s 10 years old. Sure a $25000-$80000 camera has more if your lucky a true DR of 13-15.
1 ARRI ALEXA 35 15.3
2 ARRI ALEXA Classic 13.8
3 RED V-RAPTOR 8K VV 13.7
4 ARRI ALEXA Mini LF 13.5
5 Sony VENICE 2 8K. 13.2
6 Canon EOS C500 MII 13.1
7 Sony Alpha a7 IV 12.9
8 FUJIFILM GFX100 II 12.8
9 Canon EOS C300 MIII 12.8
10 Canon EOS C70 12.8
11 RED V-RAPTOR [X] 8K VV 12.8
12 Panasonic LUMIX S1H 12.7
13 Sony Alpha a1 12.7
14 Blackmagic Design URSA Mini Pro 4.6K G2 12.6
15 Blackmagic Design URSA Mini Pro 4.6K 12.6
16 RED KOMODO 6K 12.5
17 DJI Ronin 4D 6K 12.4
18 Sony Alpha a7S III 12.4
19 Sony ZV-E1 12.4
20 Sony Alpha a7CR 12.4
Hey buddy, if the PYCIS_6K would have 13 stops of dynamic range - that would be more than great - even the URSA camerad had less than 13 stops of dynamic range (based on 2:1SNR XYLA tests) !!! Numbers on papers can't be trusted tbh !!!
The side monitor is excellent, it’s just not meant to be for the operator; it’s for the AC.
For the PYXIS 6K - I know we want it to be a single user, but the side screen is for a focus puller. Everyone needs a buddy. It's great that the RHS plate dimensions are available, to make your own mounts for whatever you are doing. Please use metal CNC, and not 3D Printer plastic. Otherwise use base mount gear, which is plentiful.
Most important question: why did they ditch ProRes? I know that Brad is highly potent codec and I love using it. But for some projects I would need h.264 or ProRes and record FullHD without cropping. The small codec variety makes this camera unusable for certain projects which is a BIG PROBLEM for a small production company.
17K... Mouth watering
I’m both thrilled and disappointed by this release. Thrilled because the “box camera” is finally in the BM ecosphere and will be going forward into the foreseeable future. However, I’m exceptionally bummed because the frame rate is beyond laughable at this point. Come on, in 2024 anything less than 6k 120 fps is, in my opinion, unacceptable. The other two big disappointments are no swiveling/tilting onboard monitor and no internal ND. These are all (minus the frame rate) things we’ve seen them do on the BM Pocket. I know…I had one before I sold it for a Komodo. I was really hoping to sell the Komodo and go all in on Blackmagic….but there is no point here. Also, what’s the deal with EF mount over RF? Just give us an RF mounting option so we can choose which Canon glass we want to use. I know the flange distance would be tighter, but I also know it’s doable. Anyways, guess I’ll be waiting for Gen 2 of this. Still, it’s very exciting to know this camera finally, FINALLY exists. They just need to perfect it before I buy it.
I feel like the monitor on the side of the PYXIS is basically like the 1st AC monitor for the Ursa 12k because the thought was that most people are using external monitors anyways.
While the price is the main draw, what its missing is glaring. Those hyping it up without experiencing it on a paid shoot may find themselves regrettably coming back down to Earth. I believe DM will take the tempeture of this offering and use the feedback to create the Pyxes Pro that should have build in ND, 15 stop range, 4K at 60 or even 120fps and 14 and maybe even 16 bit internal recording. With those upgrades, those hyping up the price of the Pyxis will also hype up a $4K to $5K price.
Hi do u work for Black Magic I use Adobe Premier the older version I am slowy buying parts for 4K h.265 30 fps 60 fps for blogging
And I thought Blackmagic only made those ugly little plasticky portable v-cameras…not a video guy myself, but the latest tech interests me. Also, I thought Blackmagic were a small company…where did they get the R&D budget for this myriad of products? 🤷♂️
I miss the Global Shutter from Blackmagic. I like that they did the box camera, weird that the screen on the side, should have been on the top, but I wanted a Global Shutter in it. I basically want a cheaper Red Komodo from BM.
Internal ND's and lack of full sized XLR input is a let down for me, as well as no RF Mount. I shoot mainly canon and also shoot photos with the R3 and going to get the R1 when it drops. I left the EF mount a long time ago. I really want to like this camera, but it's just not for me. Waiting for the next C300 and hopefully it's a refresh/bigger update with the intro to the RF lineup.
The Pyxis is a STEAL at $2995. I can see Panasonic having to cut the price of their competing BGH-1 box camera to get them to move off the shelves once the Pyxis is available for sale.
Here my question.
1. Could we see an update where we can record higher fps at open gate via sdi recording on video assist 12G?
2. Would it be possible to run usbc to video assist 12G for image and power if we don’t want the EVF?
3. Any potential of making a dedicated monitors? Say take the video assist 12gs and take away the external recording components. In order to make just a monitor that also has USB-C for image signal and camera controls without having to use the side screen.
3. Can the screen be set to auto off and tap to wake like a phone? To save battery when not using it until we need to?
I don’t really understand why they chose to slap big monitors on the sides of the new ursa. When using a cinema camera setup you need the side of the camera for transmitter, AC gear etc. Now you can’t because there is a big screen there without mounting options. So for proper narrative work I’m afraid this new 12K is difficult to work with. The Pyxis is fine with a fixed screen but again, I wished it was smaller for just menus and quick viewing and leave more room for mounting. And just like the cinema 6k it will have pretty heavy cmos smearing and rolling shutter on FF. As a s35 cam it is great though as long as you can light your scenes decently.
sell komodo for 5K, buy this, and spend 2K on whatever monitor of your liking. I suggest Apple Studio Display.
since BM has so much machine learning is time to make the mission video autofocus for BM cameras
You don't get ridiculous framerates in 4k because it's downsampling, so it's always processing a huge amount of data
Don't know why People are so excited. Weird shape, unnessesary huge screen and the same sensor with bad rolling shutter. It's not even have ND. An old fx6 smokes this camera right away.
I've always just gawked at cinema cameras because they're just so beautiful. I never felt like buying a BMPCC or similar because I only shoot stills. However... $3k for a 6K box format camera makes my heart flutter. I want one to play with. I want one.
Resolve 19 was the most exciting lol 😂, just not sure why blackmagic cameras have never popped up on any of the NETFLIX approved cameras with all the features they pack into their bodies like an insane 12k or 17 freaking K
A box camera is amazing don’t get me wrong, but I really don’t get the hype about a box camera. Like yes maybe it’s easier to mount on a gimbal etc, but you lose a lot of quality of life features - the ability to just go out, be creative, and be nimble with a point and shoot system. I understand it’s a separate camera, I just hope they don’t discontinue the pocket series.
It would be good if the guy stuck to the review - instead of talking how he feels - might as well keep saying 'whoop', awesome, just saying, OMG' and all that other verbal diarrhoea. Gone to find a more sensible review - two minutes of this shit was enough
@initialfocus Can you please ask BMD when they will produce a high quality colorist’s monitor? Hopefully something affordable that can replace these super expensive monitors like those from Flanders Scientific, et al.
And that box is so utterly stupid. Monitor on the side. Nothing better over the og pocket 6k pro other than open gate. So I can not have a side handle if I want tobias the Monitor? LOL
People argue about the format of the pocket .. but the monitor is such an advantage, I own the Komodo x too, but boy do I love the monitor of the 6k pro.
Still the same idiotic dc port 🤪
Atomos is doing a decent job at making older gear better or cheaper too. They gave the 2018 Ninja V a paid firmware update that gives it all the modern OS features of their latest monitors.
Really great upgrades! The only thing I miss with new 6k are ingrated ND filters. This would make it stunning. But what do you think of the new Micro Panel? I really think about selling my BM Mini Panel for the new Micro Panel, because it has much more buttons and functions and is portable like no other.
didn't see any info on the bit depth of the new camera. please tell me its not 10 or 12 bit...Braw is 12.. so i'm hoping there's something else going on inside the box... If it's not 16 bit, then its of limited value as compared to the arri or sony
Can you ask if they weren't able to add NDs because of the size?
Grant said the biggest battery will give 3 hours. Pretty much same as the canon c70, Micheal.
so bummed the pixie dust has no nd's
It's a beauty! Sadly no flipping screen and no built in ND's (as far as I can see). So I'll have to wait for the 'pro' version, I'm afraid.
When he said the price of the 12k was much more expensive and dropped the price of a c300 is died laughing
Buzzing about the 6K box design! Waited so long for it! Just gutted there’s no internal ND’s. Hopefully they bring a pro version out
U can't afford the 17k I gaurenteed it sponsored or not...box csmera he'll ya
17K Sensor I’m trying to figure out what the size of a 10 min shot would be…
They’ve always had problems with there monitors ironically given it’s a big part of what they do.
The side monitor just greases the space between your checkbook and the new sick AF EVF !
Black magic boxcam 😂😂😂 too little too late RED even sold because in a few years they cant legally still bogard Raw codec 😂😂😂 Sony raw will make Black magic look over saturated and will lean more to true alexa colors
Pyxis: add ND filters, increase stops of dynamic range...a 6k Pro Pyxis version is what we need.