@@GuidoGautsch This is what I regularly do with my current setup. Sometimes, though, it would be nice to have a barebones option, basically a mic pair and a camera. I guess the BMCC6K is the way forward here. I actually don't mind the form factor at all.
Interested to see how the micro panel works as we are looking to upgrade from an older model ATEM tv studio hd to a constellation. Our volunteers like the physical switcher and this is way more affordable than the other panels
Am I the only person whose super excited for the IP Converter 4x12g? Now I can run all my studio cameras over one cable each for only $2000 vs buy 4 studio converters for $4000. This is amazing for podcast workflows.
@lkptlst3256 are you sure? The information on the website says they do all the same thing. The only difference seems to be the return 2 feed. But to me, 500 dollars isn't worth being able to send a feed to each cameras hdmi port.
@@nelsonpowell545and Timecode return. So you will still have to run a cable to the mic jacks or jam them prior. The studio converters are bad a$$. But I agree, if you are just looking to minimize cables this new 4x12g is awesome!
@ThisIsLeeBird i thought about that. But i always run my BMD equipment into the same network switch so the timecode is through the network for me, so i looked past that.
Was goofing around with the new audio features and they are amazing!! Also, the new color slices now make skin tone adjustments a breeze. It was almost like the development team has been standing over my shoulder for the past six months observing what I've been struggling with. Bravo Blackmagic!!
I don't understand how to use the ATEM micro panel with USB where does the USB go does it go to the switcher? Does it go to a computer on the network running the software both? I would like to be able to switch without a computer
ATEM 1 M/E Constellation HD should have had ability to scale two inputs for side by side. Also dumping a few inputs ISO'ed like the mini toys can. The minis are either all SDI or HDMI, and not mixed. I sold my ATEM TVS years ago and went OBS but keep looking to come back but the features just never line up right.
I don't see the Blackmagic Ethernet Switch 360P listed as POE++ on their website? In the video you said this switch will send power to connected devices?
Hi Alex, thanks for the new video! Instant replay, that's going to be really interesting! Did I get that right? Grand also mentioned a low-cost option at 1:18:48. This means that this instant replay feature will also be implemented in the ATEM Television HD8 ISO and the ATEM Mini Extreme ISO with a connected USB SSD through a future software update. What exactly does he mean by the problem of H264 ISO files with latency? Wouldn't it take growing files to establish a replay system on these devices? If that were to actually happen, it would definitely be a welcome upgrade for many customers. What do you think?
Thank you for the recap ! Interested in learning more about the BM 2110 IP Converter. That really something that would get me in this workflow. Somehow sad to see BM going in the opposite direction of NDI with the 2110 IP protocol, or maybe am i getting it wrong.
Nope you're not wrong at all, Blackmagic will (IMO) never adopt NDI in their products. The licensing fee they have to pay (to one of their direct competitors) would be huge.
Dear brother. Sorry to trouble you. A big question. I have this as a technical question. Are there HDMI capture cards and video encoders that allow you to scale and position video feeds on a 1920x1080 canvas, including the ability to scale the video by 67% and position it at the centre of the screen? I am looking for devices with these features that have hardware video encoders or do it within the hardware. I'm not looking for a device/ video switcher option just like the one below. So once this setup is done in the encoder it outputs it to a HDMI clean or SDI or USB/UVC for use as a webcam. Alternatively, through the software, set it up so that it outputs this custom composition HD canvas to the RTMP destination. (This means the scaled HDMI signal gets encoded into that particular way to scale and position video feeds on a 1920x1080 canvas ability to scale the video by 67% and position it at the centre of the screen. This would reformat an HD setup five streamtream that was done in HD and push it to a vertical livestream platform like Instagram, which is VERTICAL. Hence, if I were to send an HD 1920x1080, it would crop in the centre only. So I want to scale the image before it arrives on Social Media Platforms) Any help is much appreciated.
Thanks for the review. Re: the Micro Panel, I use my ATEM Mini ISO Extreme for switching and like it just find aside from the fact that it doesn't have a fader bar. Annoying. What I really want is a fader like the one here with a rotary encoder to adjust my master volume level. That with the ISO would be perfect for my needs. Perhaps, the next refresh of the ATEM mini line will get me there. Also, regarding AI, what I really need is an assistant editor that will create clips from long programs with subtitles with the ability to edit the results. Currently there are a lot of online tools like Opus Clips that gets close, but you kind of get what you get with no way of editing the results in a useful way.
2110, because you can convert 2110 copper to fibre with a simple media converter if you need the cable lengths of fibre. Then you can run 2110 for local monitoring. Eventually there will be a 2110 constellation switcher to complete the workflow for doing everything 2110 natively.
Would like to see more on the instant replay… wish it can be connected to a hyper deck instead of DaVinci…. Grant explanation was all over the place… good job Alex on all that u do.
With everything on the network you don't have to run as much cables and your whole system becomes a router. Some brands like Riedel already make solutions that are crazy expensive that do a similar thing (decentralized router) but with st2110 it can be done directly in a network from end to end. In broadcast it is a game changer but in corporate and web use it is still to be determined if the cost will get low enough to be worthwhile in those simpler configuration
Hi Alex, with the latest release of ATEM 9.5 which now includes instant replay connecting to Resolve as a cheap software based solution - can you please produce one of your excellent tutorials using this approach rather than the method using more BMD hardware? Cheers, John.
alex - we use premiere but have been considering resolve - does it really matter feature set for our 4 camera studio? we are slowly migrating cams to black magic
Switching to davinci just helps with the workflow. Transfer content through the cloud and blackmagic raw is easy edits on davinci. Blackmagic products work best with other blackmagic products basically😂
R3d covered it well. It's very much a workflow thing... You'll definitely see benefits in your workflow with the switch, but I would say initially there may be a steep learning curve to learn DaVinci in the begining, but once you've got it, you'll love it
NAB is technically still a pro broadcasters event, but so many companies leverage the exposure to launch pro/consumer products. Who knows... the weekend is far from over. But I'm with you about the Minis. BMD will hopefully have something sooner than later considering the elbows being thrown by competitors in that part of the streaming market this past year.
No 2110 switcher announced yet, but I'm sure we'll see on in the future. Lets not format as well the ATEM TVS 4K8 has 4x 10GbE ports in it...so I wouldn't be surprised if this model gets a software update in the future to allow you to bring in some 2110 inputs directly.
I LOVE the Bluetooth switcher for the rack switchers. Keeps it all in house rather than having to use companion and a stream deck. The further I can get away from using anything Elgato, the better.
Alex - superb work, as always. Q: as a live performer who often does shows with video-accompanied songs with audio tracks included, might the Presentation Converter be a genuine breakthrough for artists doing one-person shows ?
A very well timed comment, I’m currently producing a video as to why Blackmagic isn’t going to be releasing a 4K HDMI based ATEM Mini any time soon (or maybe ever). As much as we all want one 😂
@@AlexPettitt Oh wow okay! I'm curious why you think it won't happen hehe .. so for now what do I need? The Web Presenter 4K right? (If I just need one source)
@@asafblasbergvideographer one camera streaming the Web Presenter 4K is great. If you need to switch 4K then cheapest option now I believe is the 1ME constellation 4K they just brought out, and then feed that into a Web Presenter 4K :)
The Replay Editor I can see being excessively useful (can I convince my girlfriend to manage replays for me when I'm streaming I wonder, once the ATEM Mini Extreme ISO gets the workflow for it?). That ATEM Micro Panel I'm definitely interested in as well, but will wait for you to get your hands on it (perhaps they'd be able to software update it to work with a USB-C to Ethernet adapter for network control). On the subject of that though, one thing I'd love to see is an ATEM Micro Camera Control. Think the ATEM Camera Control Unit, but condensed to only control one or maybe two cameras at a time (but you can change which cameras), and following the same ethos as the ATEM Micro Control Panel.
If Blackmagic made the BOX camera with the URSA cine sensor instead of 6K sensor and priced less than $10,000 they would have taken away RED / Burano / Venice's lunch, dinner and sleep.
Compared to the price of an EVS system, this is pennies. Also, when it comes out for ATEM Mini Extreme ISO, you're basically an 8 channel replay system for free. So I'm not sure I get the expensive part of you comment, but do see what you mean about points of failure. However with all the testing ive done of it so far, it's been faultless. Hope this helps
WOW, what an update? Which ones are you most excited about?
The new micro panel and DVR19. The Pyxis would have been really exciting, but for me, working with music, only one xlr input is kind of a bummer.
Definitely one of my fav new things is that projects from ATEM Mini ISO models can be opened as a timelines now
@@matslillhannus use a mixer, like a Zoom/SoundDevices for multitrack recordings and a stereo out in to the camera
@@GuidoGautsch This is what I regularly do with my current setup. Sometimes, though, it would be nice to have a barebones option, basically a mic pair and a camera. I guess the BMCC6K is the way forward here. I actually don't mind the form factor at all.
REPLAY!
Interested to see how the micro panel works as we are looking to upgrade from an older model ATEM tv studio hd to a constellation. Our volunteers like the physical switcher and this is way more affordable than the other panels
Am I the only person whose super excited for the IP Converter 4x12g? Now I can run all my studio cameras over one cable each for only $2000 vs buy 4 studio converters for $4000. This is amazing for podcast workflows.
its not same. studio converters can do lot more
@lkptlst3256 are you sure? The information on the website says they do all the same thing. The only difference seems to be the return 2 feed. But to me, 500 dollars isn't worth being able to send a feed to each cameras hdmi port.
@@nelsonpowell545and Timecode return. So you will still have to run a cable to the mic jacks or jam them prior. The studio converters are bad a$$. But I agree, if you are just looking to minimize cables this new 4x12g is awesome!
@ThisIsLeeBird i thought about that. But i always run my BMD equipment into the same network switch so the timecode is through the network for me, so i looked past that.
I'm trying to wrap my head around why I would do that. When you could just run for SDI cables I guess it just depends on length
Alex… everything okay?
6 months and no videos, hope everything is good, looking forward to some new reviews
Almost, almost everything!! Please, make a full video of Instant Replay 🥰
Trust me, It's the thing I am planning to try first (as soon as BM releases the Hyperdeck update for it).
@@AlexPettitt been using it here a few weeks.
The Tech World Needs your Educational Energy Thank you for being the best Tech Mentor
Was goofing around with the new audio features and they are amazing!! Also, the new color slices now make skin tone adjustments a breeze. It was almost like the development team has been standing over my shoulder for the past six months observing what I've been struggling with. Bravo Blackmagic!!
Hahha maybe they have ;)
I don't understand how to use the ATEM micro panel with USB where does the USB go does it go to the switcher? Does it go to a computer on the network running the software both? I would like to be able to switch without a computer
It seems the new replay editor and the color micro panel come without the studio license. Is that being phased out for new control surfaces?
ATEM 1 M/E Constellation HD should have had ability to scale two inputs for side by side. Also dumping a few inputs ISO'ed like the mini toys can. The minis are either all SDI or HDMI, and not mixed. I sold my ATEM TVS years ago and went OBS but keep looking to come back but the features just never line up right.
I don't see the Blackmagic Ethernet Switch 360P listed as POE++ on their website? In the video you said this switch will send power to connected devices?
There are 3 versions of the Pyxis 6k: L-mount, locking EF and locking PL.
Hi Alex, thanks for the new video! Instant replay, that's going to be really interesting! Did I get that right? Grand also mentioned a low-cost option at 1:18:48. This means that this instant replay feature will also be implemented in the ATEM Television HD8 ISO and the ATEM Mini Extreme ISO with a connected USB SSD through a future software update. What exactly does he mean by the problem of H264 ISO files with latency? Wouldn't it take growing files to establish a replay system on these devices? If that were to actually happen, it would definitely be a welcome upgrade for many customers. What do you think?
Thank you for the recap !
Interested in learning more about the BM 2110 IP Converter. That really something that would get me in this workflow.
Somehow sad to see BM going in the opposite direction of NDI with the 2110 IP protocol, or maybe am i getting it wrong.
Nope you're not wrong at all, Blackmagic will (IMO) never adopt NDI in their products. The licensing fee they have to pay (to one of their direct competitors) would be huge.
@@AlexPettitt totally makes sense ✌
Interesting. The BMD Ethernet Switch is their response to NDI? :O
Dear brother. Sorry to trouble you. A big question.
I have this as a technical question. Are there HDMI capture cards and video encoders that allow you to scale and position video feeds on a 1920x1080 canvas, including the ability to scale the video by 67% and position it at the centre of the screen?
I am looking for devices with these features that have hardware video encoders or do it within the hardware. I'm not looking for a device/ video switcher option just like the one below.
So once this setup is done in the encoder it outputs it to a HDMI clean or SDI or USB/UVC for use as a webcam.
Alternatively, through the software, set it up so that it outputs this custom composition HD canvas to the RTMP destination. (This means the scaled HDMI signal gets encoded into that particular way to scale and position video feeds on a 1920x1080 canvas ability to scale the video by 67% and position it at the centre of the screen. This would reformat an HD setup five streamtream that was done in HD and push it to a vertical livestream platform like Instagram, which is VERTICAL. Hence, if I were to send an HD 1920x1080, it would crop in the centre only. So I want to scale the image before it arrives on Social Media Platforms)
Any help is much appreciated.
Thanks for the review. Re: the Micro Panel, I use my ATEM Mini ISO Extreme for switching and like it just find aside from the fact that it doesn't have a fader bar. Annoying. What I really want is a fader like the one here with a rotary encoder to adjust my master volume level. That with the ISO would be perfect for my needs. Perhaps, the next refresh of the ATEM mini line will get me there. Also, regarding AI, what I really need is an assistant editor that will create clips from long programs with subtitles with the ability to edit the results. Currently there are a lot of online tools like Opus Clips that gets close, but you kind of get what you get with no way of editing the results in a useful way.
Any news yet on your proposed tut for best workflow/real world uses for the Resolve Replay system?
@@ONtvChannels yes, it is in the works :) Hoping it should be out around mid November time :)
@@AlexPettitt Thanks Alex, Best John.
In your opinion: If you were going to make a new studio in a building, designed from the ground up, would you go 2110 or Fiber?
2110, because you can convert 2110 copper to fibre with a simple media converter if you need the cable lengths of fibre. Then you can run 2110 for local monitoring. Eventually there will be a 2110 constellation switcher to complete the workflow for doing everything 2110 natively.
I think similar to what the comment below says, I would ops for 2110 at this point
Hi Alex.
Do you have a studio tour or list of the gear you use?
I really like your lighting setup and would like to know what you are using.
Hello? This is your 3 month wellness check…..
Would like to see more on the instant replay… wish it can be connected to a hyper deck instead of DaVinci…. Grant explanation was all over the place… good job Alex on all that u do.
Got a video fully explaining the replay stuff in the works. Having now tested it, I must say it works well and I'm a fan!
So what’s the importance of 2110 again? I don’t think I’m understanding. Where in the workflow does it help?
With everything on the network you don't have to run as much cables and your whole system becomes a router.
Some brands like Riedel already make solutions that are crazy expensive that do a similar thing (decentralized router) but with st2110 it can be done directly in a network from end to end. In broadcast it is a game changer but in corporate and web use it is still to be determined if the cost will get low enough to be worthwhile in those simpler configuration
Wish they would support pts cameras
Hi Alex, with the latest release of ATEM 9.5 which now includes instant replay connecting to Resolve as a cheap software based solution - can you please produce one of your excellent tutorials using this approach rather than the method using more BMD hardware? Cheers, John.
Th micro panel looks interesting. Is it backwards compatible to older ATEMs or is it firmware or software focused? Great overview thanks.
Do you have a discord community? Does this channel have one?
alex - we use premiere but have been considering resolve - does it really matter feature set for our 4 camera studio? we are slowly migrating cams to black magic
Switching to davinci just helps with the workflow. Transfer content through the cloud and blackmagic raw is easy edits on davinci. Blackmagic products work best with other blackmagic products basically😂
R3d covered it well. It's very much a workflow thing... You'll definitely see benefits in your workflow with the switch, but I would say initially there may be a steep learning curve to learn DaVinci in the begining, but once you've got it, you'll love it
Disappointing we didnt get 4k Atem Minis
NAB is technically still a pro broadcasters event, but so many companies leverage the exposure to launch pro/consumer products. Who knows... the weekend is far from over. But I'm with you about the Minis. BMD will hopefully have something sooner than later considering the elbows being thrown by competitors in that part of the streaming market this past year.
Heat issues.
@@atcproductionsau Seriously?
@@thedeejlam The encoders on the ISO models run quite hot.
@@atcproductionsau Gotcha... better done right once than have something, well, half-baked, eh?
now all we need is a smpte 2110 switcher, unless we have that ability and I missed something...
No 2110 switcher announced yet, but I'm sure we'll see on in the future. Lets not format as well the ATEM TVS 4K8 has 4x 10GbE ports in it...so I wouldn't be surprised if this model gets a software update in the future to allow you to bring in some 2110 inputs directly.
I LOVE the Bluetooth switcher for the rack switchers. Keeps it all in house rather than having to use companion and a stream deck. The further I can get away from using anything Elgato, the better.
Alex - superb work, as always. Q: as a live performer who often does shows with video-accompanied songs with audio tracks included, might the Presentation Converter be a genuine breakthrough for artists doing one-person shows ?
Interesting take, I hadn't really thought of this use case.... I will definitely keep this is mind when getting hands on with it
WOW! If Blackmagic gets this right with instant replay - that could be the end of the EVS workflow in mobile streaming..
Can You apload some rare footage nature or lsndscape i need to say real color before i buy camera thx a lot
Great video. What they *should* have done was come out with ATEM Mini 4K at a price point of $799 or something like that. It would have sold so well.
A very well timed comment, I’m currently producing a video as to why Blackmagic isn’t going to be releasing a 4K HDMI based ATEM Mini any time soon (or maybe ever). As much as we all want one 😂
@@AlexPettitt Oh wow okay! I'm curious why you think it won't happen hehe .. so for now what do I need? The Web Presenter 4K right? (If I just need one source)
@@asafblasbergvideographer one camera streaming the Web Presenter 4K is great. If you need to switch 4K then cheapest option now I believe is the 1ME constellation 4K they just brought out, and then feed that into a Web Presenter 4K :)
@@AlexPettitt Yup that's exactly what I was thinking. Thank you Alex!
The Replay Editor I can see being excessively useful (can I convince my girlfriend to manage replays for me when I'm streaming I wonder, once the ATEM Mini Extreme ISO gets the workflow for it?). That ATEM Micro Panel I'm definitely interested in as well, but will wait for you to get your hands on it (perhaps they'd be able to software update it to work with a USB-C to Ethernet adapter for network control). On the subject of that though, one thing I'd love to see is an ATEM Micro Camera Control. Think the ATEM Camera Control Unit, but condensed to only control one or maybe two cameras at a time (but you can change which cameras), and following the same ethos as the ATEM Micro Control Panel.
Awesome & Thanks :)
If Blackmagic made the BOX camera with the URSA cine sensor instead of 6K sensor and priced less than $10,000 they would have taken away RED / Burano / Venice's lunch, dinner and sleep.
👳🏿♂️🔮4️⃣🙌🏽
Sounds like a very expensive way to replay with unnecessary points of failure.
Compared to the price of an EVS system, this is pennies. Also, when it comes out for ATEM Mini Extreme ISO, you're basically an 8 channel replay system for free. So I'm not sure I get the expensive part of you comment, but do see what you mean about points of failure. However with all the testing ive done of it so far, it's been faultless. Hope this helps
Can you explain how the extreme ISO becomes a eight channel replayer ?@@AlexPettitt
@@AlexPettitt How do you actually replay from an Atem Mini ISO?
Take my money
Blackmagic is about to have us all spending like it’s Christmas
@@AlexPettitt no timestamps???
The ATEM Micro Panel is the most overpriced dongle BMD has ever sold.