Ultimate Blackmagic HyperDeck Shuttle HD Review | Uncovered Secrets and Top 5 Features
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- Опубликовано: 2 июл 2024
- I’m unveiling the Top 5 Blackmagic HyperDeck Shuttle HD Features! From seamless Recording & Playback to integrated Teleprompter functionality, and more hidden features like network media support, and dynamic edit-while-ingest workflows - The Hyperdeck Shuttle HD might be Blackmagic’s cheapest Hyperdeck model available, but it’s also one of its most powerful!
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Timecodes:
00:00 Intro
00:17 Recording
04:13 Playback / Clips Player
06:47 Teleprompter
11:02 Network Recording & Playback
18:29 Growing Files / Edit While Ingest
21:54 Round Up
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Right then... Who's adding a Hyperdeck Shuttle HD to their Christmas list after watching this? ;)
Great. Another device that does not support the 4K or 6K resolution cameras?
Battle between shuttle and bigger brothers is on
I didn't add it to my Christmas wish list, I simply ordered it on the black Friday to Christmas holiday sales price. It is setting on my desk with my ATEM Extreme ISO, Razor Laptop, Speed Editor and RodeCaster Pro2. I also ordered two of the Micro 4k G2 camera's for my livestream studio.
Alex, I bought it a year ago and I thought that it had been one of my worst investments in BM, but with this information that you have just shown, I see that I have a gold mine. Thank you!!
So glad to hear this Gabriel! This was exactly one of the reasons I wanted to make this video, to help explain how packed full of features this thing really is! Glad it helped :)
Alex, you have just unlocked an amazing feature for my workflow days before a massive production. Thank you!!!
Alex, this video ROCKED! - I'm so glad I was an early adopter to this system and now I have a bunch more reasons to love it! - Kind of amazing to produce a video about a concept that was considered to be impossible.
Very interesting, Alex!
Great video as usual. Thanks
Incredible video!
Just like your performance on The Club today sir 😉
Thanks Alex!!!
Wow, excellent information! Thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks Alex, excellent video. I was reluctant to use my Hyperdeck to experiment with as a 'Replay' function with my extreme, ( I use OBS replay at the moment) but I now feel a (relatively) quick replay (Soccer) can be generated after watching your video. A great explainer video.
Wow amazing. Good stuff 👍
Awesome. Thank you for your sharing
Excellent video Alex, really cool device. I am also looking in to the HyperDeck Studio 4K Pro, if this has a teleprompter that would be cool.
Thanks so much! At the moment that model doesn’t, but the teleprompter feature has certainly proved itself as popular, so I expect to see it in more models down the line
Would love to see the hyper deck act as a instant replay device. Appears to have all the functionality maybe some macros that will grab last 20 seconds of last clip played through it cut to program.. let’s see Alex the ball is in you court… Great work as always
I love the idea of this challenge and I’m almost certain it could be done with two Hyperdeck Shuttles. One recording a growing file and the other accessing it over the network for playback. This is something I feel I’m going to have to test now ;)
@@AlexPettittthis is literally the first thing I thought of when you said it supported growing files. You should test and report back!
Google “hyper slow” someone has written software for replays. Also it’s possible to use companion to make a macro
wondering only the possibility to play the recorded footage at a different speed using only this device. Great tips anyway@@AlexPettitt
Would like to see this demonstrated as well @AlexPettitt
Thanks! Your videos have helped me immensely.
Thanks Joe, I’m really glad to hear to hear the videos have been helpful! Very much appreciate the SuperThanks too 🙌 Hope you have a fantastic 2024!
Thanks so very much for sharing and opening my/our imagination 💭 to opportunities
Thanks!
Thx great video, I need to get one.
Great work and thank you! Just found/watched your video more or less by accident. Creating a instant replay system with Hyperdecks used to be my goal. But since they just aren't getting cheaper, the used ones as well, it's a intensive invest. With an older 4K Hyperdeck Studio (SSDs), a Hyperdeck Studio Mini (SD cards), both capable of recording 1080p60, an Elgato Stream deck and Bitfocus companion, it is possible to remote control the Hyperdecks. For example, pressing one button on the Elgato Stream Deck starts recording on both Hyperdecks and another button stops recording. Since each button of a Elgato Stream Deck can be programmed to chain multiple orders with Bitfocus Companion, a third button might stop all recordings, jump to the very end of the newest recording of one Hyperdeck, rewind the last 5, 7, 10 seconds, start playing back the recording with 40% of the normal speed => meaning even slow motion playback is very possible and switching the ATEM Mini to the input the HyperDeck is connected to. Works just fine. Although, this particular setup has a downside, the Hyperdeck Studio Mini needs a little more than 1 second to switch from recording to playing back the video. Fortunately a delay can be chained to the list of orders. The 4K Hyperdeck Studio switches from recording to playback without any noticeable lag. Probably because of the SSDs. This setup was used for live streaming softball games and instant replay of pitches and plays on first base or home. @Alex, what I'd really be interested in, do you have a possiblity to test if what I just described has any lag on the HyperDeck Shuttle HD? Maybe the if lag exists, is can be reduced when recording to an external SSD?
game changer! growing files! instant edit cuts for shorts! feed em
Awesome review!! Hyper deck super powers. Can this be done with iso recording files? ie, and play out the best or bests shot of all, or create a multi angle highlights clip on the go.
Thanks
dude, thanks for all your videos.... I had to watch this again, cause I had issue setting up network storage to the BMD Cloud pod.... the Detail I missed, after selecting the folder,,, (HOLD DOWN THE SET BUTTON UNTIL IT takes.... Thanks again...
Thank you for this video. "Can I use this to record ptz camera over the network via POE port?
Great Video Alex.👌With the ability of growing file format, I think it would be cool to have a sports replay system that make use of Shuttle HD. What do you think?
I completely agree, and I have no insider knowledge but personally I wouldn’t be surprised if Blackmagic release a replay system range soon enough… I think it would make perfect sense for them.
@AlexPettitt that would fill the missing gap in their product line-up. As a casual sports streamer I really need an affordable system to perform multi-angle repalay with slow-mo and rewind capabilities. But lets wait and see what Blackmagic migt have for us.
Hi Alex. I purchased the HyperDeck Shuttle after watching your video. You say in this video to export it out as a "Progress file" 6:34 to get edited video to play. What does that mean? I cannot get edited videos to even be recognized by the Hyperdeck shuttle. In addition what Black Magic Design does not tell you is you MUST purchase specific equipment, from an approved list of equipment that is buried in their website somewhere. You'll need specific approved high speed expensive Disk and a Samsung TR7 or other approved media from their hidden list in order for it to work. Plus you need an additional monitor to incorporate it into your workflow even if you have the Black Magic 7" monitor already. So buyer BEWARE. You will need to buy hundreds of dollars of equipment just to get it to do Live record and playback... and they will tell you that the product is unstable and may or may not work at all for playing edited video. So Alex, can explain what a Progress file is and what settings are needed to get the HyperDeck Shuttle to simply play back an edited video during a Live webinar. Thanks! KEV
In one of your last videos, you showed how to save the last 30/60 seconds or so of a broadcast to a file. I've been trying to figure out a way to have 'instant replay' during a live stream. Would a combination of that video plus this hardware be a viable solution? The saved clip could always overwrite the previous one - no need to save those highlight reels. Any thoughts?
This was mind blowingly UH-MAZING!!!! Bruh...do you give classes? I need to get studied up!!!
Thanks so much! I do offer one-to-one consulting session yeah. You can arrange one at: alex.live/consulting
brilliant! so after seeing this, i tried to do some network recording from a hyperdeck HD Plus to a shared folder on a Win11 Laptop. recording works like a charme! BUT: i cannot import the growing file into Resolve or Adobe Premiere.....Resolve does not see the file in the folder, but its definitely there! also, i cant open the growing file in any App (VLC).
what could i be doing wrong or missing? would love to build a simple replay station with just de hyperdeck and a laptop.
Great content as always, i saw this update about a month ago and works well as you have mentioned. One i have noticed when using the shuttle with my atem iso with software control is that it doesnt recognise the last recorded clip unless i recorded another clip and then the previous clip comes into the playlist, which is the actaul clip u want using the atem software control, is that a bug?
YESSS!!! I noticed this too and thought I was going crazy. I’m going to report it as a possible software bug.. although saying that I’ve just seen that BM has updated the ATEM software control this week, so it may already be fixed
@AlexPettitt ahhh great, I thought I was going crazy too, I will test with new software control, just trying g to sort this great device as a replay device and program record.
Sorry to hear about your smashes teleprompter, thanks for the video
Haha thanks, I was actually so gutted when I smashed it. Going to have to order another one :)
That’s really cool! Do you know if its possible to use growing files on the Atem TV Studio HD8 ISO??? That’d be amazing.
At the moment for some reason the ATEM TVS HD8 doesn’t seem to record in a growing file format, you have to stop recording before accessing it. But I think that could be easily changed with a firmware upgrade! So hopefully that happens
That’d be a game changer for our setup. Thanks for all your content! I’ve learned a lot from you.
can you start playback of the file if still recording(growing) to SD card or SSD ?
If embedded timecode went along with the growing files, it would be a big bonus for anyone wanting to edit proxies while you're still shooting?
It does!! At least I’m 99% sure embedded HDMI timecode is recorded into the growing files 👏
Wow, if embedded timecode works, there's a massive market that doesn't realise how useful this could be !!! Thank you
Nice, thx. Are these functions also available on the other hyperdeck models?
At the moment, the only other Hyperdeck that has the network recording and growing file functions is BlackMagic’s most expensive model: Hyperdeck Extreme
@@AlexPettitt Wow, then thanks for sharing. I have the Hyperdeck Studio HD Plus and this will be a good addition and or even back up to grab files from Mac.
Can you recorder and play files from hyper deck at same time from sd card?
Hi there! Great video, it gives me hope. I explain: i livestream webinars every week over zoom with an ATEM Mini Pro ISO paired with wirecast on my Mac to have more video files going etc. when needed, then I have to also record the livestream (which I do from Zoom internal recording, at a very low quality unfortunately), but the atem mini pro does have only one usb-c port and I must use it to connect it to the Mac, instead of an ssd where I could record. So I was searching for an easy and functional way to livestream and record at the same time and I came across your video. So is that possible using the shuttle alongside the atem mini pro? Thanks again for this video, have a good one 💪🏻💪🏻
I’m also trying to eliminate wirecast from the workflow, which I use just to play secondary clips during the livestream (often it happens that I have to upload the clips from the ssd to wirecast on the fly during the live) and it seems easier with the shuttle over Ethernet. Did I got it right? 🤔
I'm re-watching this for the 4th time to remind myself some of the great points you made. I realized the hard way that relying on the Extreme ISO alone to record is a bad idea. I was recording something important yesterday and decided I wanted to use the ISO mode to give me the ability to edit it later. When I hit the stop button, it was basically frozen and needed to be powered down and I only captured the 1st 5 minutes, so I not only didn't get all the ISO files, but I didn't even get a copy of the Program. If I took your advice, I would've captured an independent Program on the Shuttle HD.
Lesson learned. Always have a backup. What drives me crazy is I've discovered this is a common problem on the Extreme ISO. Some people blame the speed of the SSD, or the high quality settings, but there's no definitive answer as to the reason, so I'd love to see you address which drives and settings are the most reliable for recording. Meanwhile I've got a NAS with a 10gb network and I forgot your advice to use it as a network recorder. I didn't even think to connect it to my Atomos Ninja V. I think I'll chain the 2nd HDMI to the Atomos, then the output from that to the input on the Shuttle... then record to all 3.
Hey Joe, I’ve had this happen to me a few times too. I’ve done extensive testing on trying to find a cause / pattern as to when it occurs. The closest thing I’ve come to right now is it seems to happen more when you’re recording at higher frame rates 50 or 60fps as opposed to 25/30. May I ask when frame rate you were recording at when this happened to you?
@@AlexPettitt Getting to the bottom of this and preventing another problem has opened up a can of worms and underscores some of the quirks in the Blackmagic ecosystem. My ATEM and my Shuttle are set to 24 fps.
The Shuttle is using ProRes HQ because it was the only combination I was able to successfully place media such as my show opening that actually showed up. Meanwhile, I shuffled my wires to push the second HDMI with the program into the Shuttle, setup some guest shares on the Synology NAS, assigned them and gave it a go.
It started recording to the SD card instead of the NAS, then made the original show clips invisible because as you know you can't mix video and audio formats on the same card (they should find a way to do this with folders at least). It's not as useful if I can't use it to play clips, but I decided to try again without the card just for curiosity sake in case I get a second Shuttle just to record. Il it does is turn red for a blink and create files with zero bytes. I've confirmed the Guest account has access to the folder and I can see it's able to access it because the (empty) files are created.
For now, I'll record my backups on the Atomos, but it would be great if the Shuttle could not only record to the network, but play clips.
When is the ATEM ISO Extreme 4k coming out?
Not for a while IMO, I think we’re still a year or so off seeing it
Hi! Do you think it is possible to livestream as a webcam and recording at the same time with the shuttle and an atem mini pro iso? If so is it possible to ditch obs or wirecast to play video files during the livestream? Thank you very much 🙏🏻
Hey Ivan, I don't think so... I think the Shuttle can only record to one source at a time, so its either USB, Card, or Network...it can't do multiple at the same time from what I can see :) Hope this helps
Fantastic video @alex. I told you I was ready to give up on my Shuttle. This gets me excited to use it again. Quick question, can you record to the Shuttle and play back fromthe Shuttle at
the same time? Use case being instant replay.
testing now and doesn't look like it.. playback options go away while recording
@@FightFlixTv Thanks for testing!
Yeah just to conform what Flight has said, you can not playback and record at the same time. But glad you've found the video helpful and it's relighted the fire for the Shuttle :)
This is my next purchase! Alex got a question and might be a good video topic. Your ATEM videos have been great, but I'm stuck on a scenario. Assume we have a live audience, but there are 2 people who couldn't travel so they will be remote. At the conference presenters in person use PowerPoint, but there is also a Teams or Zoom meeting going on at the same time. If I wanted to get a picture in picture of the remote people what is the best way to achieve this scenario? Right now I'm testing using 3 notebooks attached to the ATEM extreme. HDMI 1 - Live Presenter notebook in person, HDMI 2 using Teams PIN full screen one of the remote presenters, and HDMI 3 in Teams PIN the other remote presenter. Is this the most efficient way to handle multiple remote presenters in either Zoom or Teams software?
There are multiple ways your can tackle this scenario, but short answer is yes you’re doing it the right way “Zoom / Laptop Farm” way which many use and works well in most instances. And for teams, I’m probably what I would recommend. If you switched to Zoom, there is a great bit of Software called ZoomISO that can give you individual SDI feeds for each guest. But there is added expense in that. Hope this helps
I just highly wish it supported a 120p or 240p signal. Then this thing could work as a replay controller. The 1080p60 limit is what is really holding this back.
I know what you mean! I think in this form factor is probably hard for them to support the higher frame rates, but who knows it could come in the future maybe :)
Fantastic video Alex, oddly when I follow the steps and create the shared folder - on my Mac Studio, while it shows the Mac under Local Network, when I enter the local network it doesn't show the folder, even though the folder is created on the desktop, file sharing is on, folder is shared and access to Everyone is Read/Write - I'm running 8.3.1 on the Shuttle and while 8.3.2 is available, it doesn''t prompt me to install the firmware when I run the Hyperdeck Setup Utility.
Same! :(
I had to point it to my shared (mac created) folder and then I could see it.
What is the best codec/frame rate settings to use? I have been exploring a ton of options but have had some issues getting apple prores to work and the h.264 seems to have a clutch when looping an animated background.
I guess you mean for playback right? If so, I always go with ProRes 422 and have no issues :)
So growing file is working on mp4 format too or just pro res ? Does it works only with Nas recording or even if you record through the SSD? I mean does the hyperdeck shows the SSD as a shared mounting point too ? This is a really great feature I must say! My only complain is the following : can the hyperdeck record multichannel audio into the file ? I might need to send the output of a tricaster with 4 audio tracks, do you think that windows show the HDMI audio interface out to the hyperdeck as a multichannel audio ingestion source ? The idea is to settle one of the teicaster multiviews, using the HDMI screen as embedding audio video source back on the hyperdeck, I'm concern that the hyperdeck won't have multichannel audio ingestion through HDMI than. Great video Alex 👍
Yep the growing file works as H.264 as well as ProRes. And no, the Hyperdeck won’t show an SSD as a shared mounting point.
I think the Hyperdeck Shuttle can only do stereo audio with its HDMI input … but I’m not 100% sure about that. I’ll try find out
That is pretty impressive! Can one record to a network drive and simultaneously play back a file from an sd card? Oh, and can one connect the Hyperdeck via USB to a computer to have it show up as webcam? It says so on the BMD website, but I can't find any video showing that...
Testing now, doesn't look like you can record and playback simultaneously...
@@FightFlixTv Thanks! I also checked with BMD support and they told me the webcam part was published on their website by accident. It is not actually a feature of the device. Pity :(
Does "growing file" work with the hyperdeck playback itself? It would be nice if it did to do "instant replays"
Not really, the hyperdeck can’t be in record and playback mode at the same time unfortunately. But I’m pretty sure we’ll see a BM device that can in the near future
Hello Alex, I’ve been waiting for someone to do a good video on the HyperDeck Shuttle HD. I have several use-cases in mind for this, but one is to feature as an Instant Replay situation. But before I jump into buying one, i wanted to run my theory past you and see what you think or what suggestions may be. I know you did a video on using Vmix for instant replay a while back. I am really trying to limit the amount computer-based requirements my system has.
I want to get a 8x8 HDMI matrix switch, so that most of my cameras can be looped in and routed to the Inputs on the ATEM Extreme ISO i have. But then I can route any specific camera into my HyperDeck Shuttle HD. - I’d like to know if I can get a companion/ stream deck to start and stop clip recording, and set up additional buttons to command playback of the most previous clip, or even several clips back in real time, or a preset “¼” speed option. - I wonder if the Playback / record setting block this from being possible? I’m hoping I can just have a page or two of a stream deck
Bare in mind I have very minimal experience with a stream deck. I am hoping to have a few buttons like: 1. will just replay the most previous clip in real time, 2. Replay the most previous clip in ¼ time. 3 & 4. A clip up and down button for buttons 5 & 6 that would replay “
Selected clip” (3 & 4) and play in real time (5) or (6) at ¼ speed.
And if this is even doable, I’d probably expand more buttons to this to also playback in ⅛ speed.
My plan is to have an operator for replay at least starting / stop the clips and log them. My TD would have a companion to actually do the recall and switching of replay, I’d have my “playback” buttons (hopefully) set up to play for 15 frames then switch into my program input.
But I definitely would appreciate your thoughts and advice on this.
Personally I wouldn't look to use any Hyperdeck model as a replay unit as they all lack the ability to be able to record and playout at the same time, so you risk missing recording some action if you're busy playing out another clip. But that being said, from what I can see, companion & ATEM Macro's could most likely be combined to achieve the scenarios you've described :) I haven't tried it myself, but I see no reason why it wouldn't :)
thanks @@AlexPettitt I do see your point, maybe I'll consider two Hyper Deck Shuttle HDs for a replay system. that way I could also have potentially two angles of the same replay on bigger plays, but also wont miss key plays on my backup.
I've freelanced in Football and Basket ball for many years as a camera operator. It hasn't been very often where we use a replay that overlaps even the start of the next play for our commentators to pick up quickly as the game continues, especially on plays that really warrant a replay of the play, the teams and fans are usually celebrating longer than normal.
Alternatively, what options do you propose for a replay system that could work with a ATEM / companion control model that could fit in a minimalist mobile production model?
This is great, but I wasn't able to connect it to my QNAP NAS or a folder on my Mac.
Make sure you follow instructions to enable guest access. If you need further help getting it setup, feel free to contact me about a one-to-one session :)
See what you mean by them hiding the network recording feature. It's not in the manual. Does Blackmagic have any documentation on this feature? We're interested in using this but we have a large network with our nas on different subnet so I bet it's not going to find nas when it does a scan. Can you manually add the IP info of storage location?
I want realltime slomo. Would be game changing for small sport productions
Does growing files works with ProRes files too? Also can you record ProRes 422 HQ to a network? What happens if your NAS is slower for record? Can SD card used for buffering?
I have tested growing files with both H.264 and ProRes with both working fine for me. But no, there is no caching built in, so you need to make sure your network has no bottlenecks and plenty of headroom, otherwise I’d imagine you’ll get dropped frames
Alex, what do you mean exactly by a guest a ccount on your NAS that the hyperdeck will find? Is it a guest account with no password with write rights to a specific folder? Do all recordigs go into that folder only?
Yes exactly, similar to like how I showed on my Mac example, I was able to do the same on my QNAP NAS too, by enabled the Guest account and giving a specific folder I choose on the NAS full read and write access with that guest account :) Hope this helps
@@AlexPettitt Perfect. I am going to play with this option as it opens a whole new playing field in live production!
Couldn’t agree more! The possibilities are endless with the Networked recording and playback feature
Does the hyperdeck 4K also support teleprompter ? It also has a really nice knob on it so just wondering ?
Unfortunately not, only the Hyperdeck Extreme HD has this feature right now. Hope this helps
Are there any other hyperdeck models that can record and playback from a NAS?
The only other model I know that has this features is their Hyperdeck Extreme line
I don't need one but I WANT ONE!!!!! DAMN YOU BLACKMAGIG!!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I heard that all the Hyperdecks including the Shuttle HD are very picky about playing a variety of video files and transcoding is usually needed from initially captured footage. what has been your experience?
I render out anything I want to play on the Hyperdeck as ProRes and never have issues :)
Is there a reason why it’s so picky with file formats? I can’t seem to make a playable file in either Resolve or Premiere. Do you settings you can share?
I always export from DaVinci and Final Cut as ProRes 422 and don't have any issues with playback. Give that a go :)
This has been my problem with older Hyperdecks. Nothing I did made videos playable. The Hyperdecks would only play stuff they recorded
My only complaint is bmd hasnt released a 4k one I would buy that in this form factor but i guess they dont want to hurt their higherend products 😅
I think we might see one soon enough, a desktop 4K Shuttle with SDI connectors would be amazing!
@@AlexPettitt 4k encoding chips tend to get a tad hot but ya with the sdi models released earlier in the year I expect it at some point (would be great for rewind and BMD cloud scrubbing 😅+sdi atem minis it would also make sense for )
Can I do the video and files transfer to a windows instead Mac??
I believe so, if you're able to create an shared folder on Windows with a guest user, I don't see why it wouldnt work on there too :)
Thanks 🙏 so much my respect from Puerto Rico 🇵🇷 we follow you a lot thanks you we have all Blackmagic equipment setup 😊😊😊
Can this be connected to the Blackmagic multidock?
I see no reason why not, but I will check
Thank you!
Great video Alex but can you seriously not dial in the teleprompter scroll speed??? Read speed is critical and establishing and sticking to a specific speed is so important. Continually trying to re-establish scroll speed through the jog wheel would be very poor. Also I assume that the teleprompter script can be edited on the fly??
It’s a good point! I’m so used to just manually scrolling myself through a script I han’t really though about being able to dial in a speed control. It’s a great suggestion!
Can it control Davinci Resolve?
No, but a Blackmagic Speed Editor can :)
Looked like a great tool to add to my ATEM pro ... until I saw that it costs more.
Wow this terrible prompter functionality is insane I've been searching for good teleprompter software for years and they're all bad how do you change the color of the text? I personally prefer cyan text on the black background on an OLED screen I find that gives me the best contrast and readability from across the room. Is that possible or is it only read that you can do ?
Shut up and take my money!!!! Recording to the network is actually brilliant for rehearsing, as there is no plugging in and out to review your clip. Currently performing some music, and watch back is essential for practice.
Ahhh yes need slow motion….almost there black magic….
HOW DO YOU KNOW ALL OF THIS????? Alex are you reading the manual? You do know that's Blasphemy! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Hahah I wouldn't dare read the manual :) I just find a lot of these things whilst testing each product :)
Is there a way to get ATEM ISO Files to network like this? @AlexPettitt
Not yet, but I believe this is coming in the future. Not sure if it will be software update or require new hardware :) Hope this helps