Blackmagic Design HyperDeck Studio Mini (2017 Model) - Review, Overview, Tips, Tricks (2019 Update)
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- Опубликовано: 11 июл 2019
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This was so incredibly helpful, thank you so much for creating this type of content. Your channel has been an incredible resource for us as we have been trying to get more and more into live streaming. You are a rockstar! I really can't thank you enough!
This video was excellent. Thanks so much for going in-depth. I wouldn’t complain if you did one on the Video Assist 4K like this. Thanks so much!
Really appreciate your videos. I've learned alot from your channel. Many thanks Doug
Hi Doug. Many thanks for these explanations. The best i found yet on the product ! I remember the time i bought some manual DVD's from you on how worked the Sony EX-1 ! :-)
Thanks again and take care. Patrick
Love these videos man!
I had no idea of the AUTOPLAY! Thank you!
Hi Doug, thanks for the great videos! I have a question? What do you use for audio sync issues with Atem and different cameras, would be nice for you to do a video about it. All the best and keep this good content.
You're the second person to ask for this this week. I currently don't have any video about this, but it's on my list.
I purchased one today thanks to your review..
Can you control the Hyperdeck Mini with the Elgato Stream deck to play specific clips? I'm specifically thinking of clips not loaded into the front panel player as commentary or quips in a talking head sequence.
Hi Doug. Thanks for the great video. I am trying to figure out how to see the name of the file being recorded so that I can log shots. Is there any way to display the number of the file being recorded? Thank you.
Great video. Im looking for something to pair with my ATEM Mini Pro to allow recording of the video (for additional editing post) and live streaming from the mini pro at the same time. Will the hyperdeck mini free up the USB out on the mini pro? Would the hyperdeck shuttle be a cheaper alternative?
This version of the HyperDeck only has an SDI input so you'd need an HDMI-to-SDI converter to connect it to an ATEM Mini. This model has also been replaced by newer versions, the HyperDeck Studio HD Plus ( djp.li/hdsplus ) which does have an HDMI input, and HyperDeck Studio HD Mini ( djp.li/hdstudiohd ) which does not have HDMI.
Hi Doug. I’m just learning how to use my equipment and I love it but can you tell me what’s the best setting to use for recording. I use the PNY 256GB Elite Performance Class...SD card to record on but I saw in your video that you use a different kind of SD card.
Different cards have different levels of performance, and slower cards can restrict your ability to record in the higher quality formats. I've compiled a list of a few more popular cards and their real-world performance capabilities on my website at djp.li/cardperf. For recording, the number you should care about is the Write speed.
There isn't a hard and fast rule that will determine which recording formats you can use with a given card. There are a lot of factors that will affect the actual data rate. Higher resolution and more frames per second obviously will require more data than the alternatives, but the amount of motion in a shot, or the amount of fine detail, can dramatically affect the data rate as well. And, obviously the video codec you select makes a huge difference too -- ProRes and DNxHD/HR use much higher data rates than MPEG-4. So to make sure you're able to handle the worst case scenario, it's a good idea to buy the fastest cards you can afford, based on the video formats/resolutions/frame rates that you might want to use. I personally use Lexar 1667X cards, which are capable of writing more than 120 MB/seconds continuously, and are able to handle all of the scenarios that I encounter in ProRes 4:2:2 in 4K at up to 30 frames per second. But if I wanted to move up to ProRes HQ, I'd have to invest in even faster cards.
Hi Doug thanks for the video. I need to use this with vmix , and use the two sdi output ,but gives me error when i try to setup to start the for two monitors.
Can you tell me if i need to change any configuration on the device ??
Thanks for the video. I was wondering what quality do you record your videos on? I started with 250 gb p/h, but it was way too much for the quality of the cameras. I’d like HD 25/50 fps and use cameras like yours. ProRes 1080 8 bit?
I just use the regular "ProRes" setting for most events, which I believe is 10-bit, 4:2:2. The actual bitrate varies depending on resolution, frame rate, and the content itself.
Thanks for the video. Do you know if you can record simultaneously to both SD cards? Thanks
You cannot. It will switch to the second card when the first fills up, but it does not offer synchronized (parallel) recording.
This was a great video, thank you! You mention there is no loop out. Does that mean I couldn't use the HDMI output for something like a live stream, while I'm recording?
You can use the HDMI and it will show whatever is recording, but during playback you'll only get the playback video, not a looping output of the input source.
Hey Doug,
Thanks for another great video. ESPECIALLY thanks for testing and recommending the Lexar cards. I’m putting together a flypack for shooting a specific type of repeating business live-event for a specific client. These events go on literally all day, in 60 to 90 minute sessions, to be shot with multiple PTZ cameras all ISO’d to Hyperdeck Minis (in 1080p 29.97 H.264 which is all the client needs). Wanted to use 256GB cards, and your real-world recommendation was very important since BMD is so far behind on recommending media.
Three hopefully-quick questions which may also be useful to others.
(1) You mentioned no loop output from the Mini. I did a test run when renting and did E-E through the Mini’s output to the switcher, which appeared to work fine. I realize if the deck powered off or went into playback mode, that would take over but other than that is there any reason it’s a problem? I’m gonna end up with NINE of those decks, so having to DA every camera output would be a massive PITA.
(2) On a related topic, for the Television Studio HD, where four of the eight inputs are HDMI, any reason we can’t go SDI into the Mini from the camera to ISO record, then out of the deck’s HDMI to the switcher? Or does it overlay status, TC and VU meter displays on the HDMI output? (In which case we need to add a couple of SDI->HDMI microconverters).
(3) Since there’s no easy way to inject timecode on anything, or audio on the ISO decks (even ambient sound, since PTZOptics cameras do NOT send audio via SDI) it would be huge if there was some way to start/stop the machines simultaneously (+/- a frame or so) in case we had to do a multi cam re-edit. Any network app you know of that would do that?
Thanks again for the terrific series of videos. BMD should be subsidizing you!
Thanks for the positive feedback!
1. A loop out would pass the input source all the time -- even when playing back video. It would be really handy for ISOs. -- being sure that the camera source is always being passed through to a connected switcher, no matter what the recorder is doing. The full-size HyperDecks do have the loop output.
2. You could use the HDSM to convert an SDI source to HDMI. But keep in mind that when you aren't in record or preview mode that your input video won't be passed through to HDMI. It'd be easy to forget to put them in preview mode and wonder why you don't have video, or are getting something unexpected, like the first frame of the first clip on the SD card.
3. The unit will record any time code embedded into the SDI signal, so if you had a common time code source going to all of your cameras, syncing in post shouldn't be too hard. Synchronized start/stop record would require a piece of software to control all units simultaneously. There's likely something out there, but I'm not familiar with a tool for that. I do plan to complete my own someday, but I don't know when that will be.
Great Video. Thanks a lot‼️
I connect 4 of them to an old sony edit controller via RS422/232 works great for deck control, that also gives me a dedicated FF plus making in points
Hi, nice to know. I am looking for this kind of function, set in and out points and play loop between. Do you think it 'll work ? Does someone know a software controler to do so ?
We use a combination of Hyper Studio Pro, Hyper Studio 12 and the Studio Mini as a sports replay system. The mini is certainly no slouch, I have build quality concerns with the mini , Ethernet and SDI input 1 just stopped working.
Customer service at BM is great and back the product 100%
12:10 about it continuing to record is actually a good idea IMO! E.g. if an Atomos recorder looses signal it creates a new file instead of going black/dropping the frame... But that means if a cable is disturbed it keeps starting and stopping creating 100s of files all seconds long until you resolve it...
hi there ... I have an old 2/3 inch ENG camera ... records SD(PAL 625i50 ... would you happen to know it can connected to a ATEM studio HD for a multi-cam set up? Hoping to utilise the par-focal lens?? Appreciate any advice you may give. Keep up the greta work with your informative videos.
If the camera has SDI it will work. Otherwise you'll need an analog-to-SDI converter.
Hello Doug, I was wondering: If I had 2 of these units and connect them via the REF In / Out and then press RECORD on one of them, does the other one start recording too? So basically: Can you build up a multi-track-recorder that records several sources simultaneously (on different cards though of course)?
No. The Reference signals only tell them when to start outputting the start of each frame of video. No control commands are sent over that connection.
To do what you are asking you’d need units that have Remote in and out in addition to Ref in and out. You’d probably also want timecode in and out as well. Three of the four new HyperDeck models introduced this week will be able to do that.
Hi Doug! Thank you for your great information, I have one question that May help me on my setups. Is there a way to use the atem mini with hyper deck to do replays of the program? Like in sports, we see a move and then we show the replay.
Thank you!
They can be used, but they aren't ideal for that because they can't play and record at the same time. And there, as far as I know, isn't any software designed to make it easy to use them this way.
Doug Johnson Productions thank you! I appreciate your response 👍🏼👍🏼
Hi! Great video. If I use the Blackmagic URSA mini pros for my cameras, over SDI, can I start and stop record on the cameras as well? I like the idea of recording to the HyperDeck and each camera simultaneously. Cheers!
I'm not aware of a remote way to start and stop recording in the cameras, but the HyperDeck Studio recorders have a feature to automatically start and stop remotely when the appropriate command is received over SDI. You may need to adjust the configuration of the cameras to tell them to send the start/stop signals over SDI.
Doug Johnson Productions Thank you! That’s good info. Cheers, D
Good day! Regarding the PoE+ switcher to power the Hyperdeck: would the switcher damage non-PoE+ device when you plug it in a PoE+ port? Thank you.
No. You can freely mix and match PoE and non-PoE equipment on PoE+ capable network switches.
TL;DR: In practice, the HyperDeck Studio Mini is useful mainly as a backup video recorder (in addition to your primary videocamera) that can be remotely triggered from an ATEM switcher via network control. Since it cannot make dual recordings to both internal SD cards simultaneously, it is risky to rely on it as your sole recorder at a live event. This risk is compounded by the hazard of the HyperDeck abruptly terminating a recording whenever input video sync is interrupted, however briefly.
The HyperDeck's playback functions are convenient for review of a freshly recorded track, but of only limited use for live performances. Its four-second delay in switching from record to playback mode makes it impractical for instant replay of live sporting events. The absence of even a rudimentary random access file system makes it cumbersome to use as an animation server. The inability to access its SD card storage over a network by any means other than IP addressing via an FTP utility makes it inaccessible to anyone unfamiliar with network administration. In practice, it would be easier to simply copy prepared animation files to a pair of SD cards for use during an event, presumably complying with Blackmagic's undocumented file naming conventions. This would be adequate for performances requiring nothing more than sequential playback of overlays from a predetermined cue list.
@DougJohnsonProductions, new subscriber. If you could afford to spend more on your hyperdeck…which model would you pick that has the HDMI input and can play 4K media at 60FPS?
If you need 4K60, only the Studio 4K Pro will do that.
Hi Doug. Hope to helpe me Whay I can't playback on the computer.. it always be shorter time , I sit Hd high = 8 hours in 128 Gb card 170 MB/s
Nice video!
Hey Doug, does your unit stop recording randomly? On the Blackmagic Forum some users are having problem with the recording.
Back when I first got it, I had trouble with this if the video source wasn't stable, or if I was trying to use cards that are too slow. Firmware released since then seems to handle unstable sources better, and switching to faster cards took care of the other. It has probably been more than 2 years since I've had one stop unexpectedly.
Great Video. Question on an issue, I am experiencing a slight delay in video audio sync when playing back the footage from my recorder. Anyway to fix that?
Can you verify that the source files play fine on a computer?
Yea. Everything looks in sync for everything else. It’s when we take the SD card out of the recorder to review it’s a hair off, like 1-2 frames
The time and date stamp is missing on all recorded media. We just bought 3 of these minis , and right out of the box we put them to use. They record fine.
But no way to set the time and date which is crucial metadata when recording onto cards. Any suggestions?
These units only set their internal clocks when connected to the setup software on a computer. Off the top of my head I don’t remember if it has to be a USB connection or if the network connection is sufficient, but it does require a connection to a computer. And their accuracy isn’t great. I wouldn’t put much faith in the time stamp if the files.
Thanks for all the great videos! I know you said the HyperDeck Studio Mini can't play back H.264 files recorded elsewhere but what about those recorded with the ATEM Mini Pro?
I'm not sure, and I don't have an ATEM Mini Pro to test with. Perhaps someone in the community can weigh in?
@@djp_video Thanks for the reply. just got a Hyperdeck Mini in and tried it. It doesn't work. As a matter of fact there was garbage on the screen when I tried to play the h.264 file recorded on the ATEM Mini Pro and then it locked the Hyperdeck Mini up so I had to power it off and back on.
I'm currently researching this product, and was wondering with a Atem Pro deck, if you can add simple fade in and outs, and also be able to add it to a file and save it in a desired format
These decks don't allow any editing of recorded material. If you were to play a recording through a switcher, add your fades, and then record on another deck you could achieve what you want.
Can a analog NTSC signal be captured with the HyperDeck Studio Mini ? Thanks great review.
It would have to be converted to SDI first, with a device like the Analog-to-SDI Mini Converter from Blackmagic Design.
We have been using 128 SanDisk 90mb pro cards and it's always been a bit and a miss. Sometimes even the recording just stopping recording which is super annoying. Will try these Lexar cards
The older SanDisk cards are better than the newer ones. That said, any card which has ever misbehaved is probably best excluded when doing critical work for a client.
I received a video editing project with footage 59.94fps to sync with audio recorded on hyperdeck. There is audio drift during long recordings. Does hyperdeck record audio at 59.94fps? Drop frame or Non-dropframe?
It records the audio exactly as it is embedded in the SDI signal. So there's no drift. And, yes, it does support 59.94fps.
Hi Doug,
So when there is a video signal on the SDI in, is there No ouput on the SDI out? Wheither the unit is idle or recording?
Output is only for playback?
It has two primary modes: Record, and Playback. And within each of these it can be actively recording or playing, or be in standby. While in Record mode it will output the input signal whether it is actually recording or not. While in Playback mode it outputs video from the selected video clip. Switching between modes is done by pressing the Record or Play button while in the other mode.
My comment that there is no Loop Out means that there isn’t a dedicated output that always outputs the input signal regardless of whether it is playing video or not.
@@djp_videoAh, ok thanks. I thought you might have meant there was no output signal (to monitor or pass on to another device) while the unit was recording or idle.
Thanks for the clarification.
Doug, I have been following your stuff for some time and I appreciate the great content however this is my first comment/question to you but I have 100+ :) In the cons, you mentioned that it does not have a loop through. I found that I can record my program and loop to my Blackmagic web presenter through A out. Is there something that I may not be understanding with Loop. I have had my 2 decks for a couple years now they are solid. But I was just checking in to see if I can learn some new things. I had no Clue about the Alpha channel playback and am super interested to learn more about that down the road. Do you have a video covering that?
A true loop out would always output whatever is coming in the Input, no matter whether the deck is playing or recording. That's kind of important if you're using the HDSM to record isolated camera feeds.
I have a video on using the HDSM for alpha channels: ruclips.net/video/64RZOAy9j3s/видео.html
@@djp_video Thanks! This is helpful and will start to use a Mini Converter SDI Distribution. (updated) and totally understand how this could be helpful if your doing playback too on the deck and need it to loop through.
At 8:50 Doug is saying one needs to do some tweaking to get ProRes & DNxHD created on the machine to play on the deck. I can't get that to work. How does one tweak to get the files playing on the deck?
I've had the best luck with ProRes, but I don't have the settings I used, unfortunately.
At the 10:20 Mark your ATEM Software comes up....what switcher is that for?
2 M/E Production Studio 4K
Thanks for the update. I tried to buy sdxc cards using your affiliate links, but I believe the links are already dated and need to be updated to the latest Lexar cards. I’m definitely needing maximum capacity after running into media capacity problems while recording two back-to-back 8 hour days of an online seminar.
Thanks for the heads-up. I'll take a look.
Hey Doug, I recently ran into an issue with the hyperdeck mini. When I disconnected it from my ATEM switcher and connected it back via sdi, it now says no signal and is not able to record but can play previous recorded filed from the sd card. I also realized that the time code is not running like it did in the past on the hyperdeck mini screen. How do I resolve this issue?
Have you tried multiple versions of the firmware?
Hey Doug, if I use 2x512 cards, how much record time at 720p do you think I can get out of this deck?
That depends on which recording format you use. If you shoot standard ProRes 4:2:2 of 720p60, you'd be about 30-35 hours. If you were to shoot in MP4, it would be a lot more than that.
Do you have a link to the SD card chart that you posted. Can't seem to find it. Cheers
djp.li/cardperf
Does your Poe+ turn on the unit? When I use Poe+ in my rack the unit won't turn on until I plug in AC power but it will stay powered if I disconnect the AC power
Yes. I never have to connect AC power.
Doug, is there a way to reset the timecode on the display before starting a recording? I like to start at 00:00:00 and the display seems to be cumulative.
The timecode isn't being generated by the recorder. It's displaying and recording timecode from whatever video source is connected to the SDI input.
@@djp_video Same question here. As in others audiovisual devices, there may be a way to set the timecode to zero in order to start a new recording from the begining.
Another helpful video, Doug. Thank you!
Would you consider making a video of your instant replay solution?
BTW, not able to get the link to the Mini in your description working?
When it's done I will.
Odd. It's working from here. What kind of error message are you getting?
@@djp_video The link works to get me to your page where the AMAZON button is, but the AMAZON button script not firing. Maybe a Safari safety feature that's not permitting it? Anyway, got it working on Fire Fox.
can you record both SD at the same time? with 2022 firmware
It only records to one card at a time
Great explanation. I also would like to record in a external hard drive but it does not have that option.
The new models just introduced a few weeks ago can record to USB-C SSDs.
I’ve been able to play h264 .mp4 files, they just have to match the hyperdeck’s input frame rate or all videos on the SD card have to be the same frame rate, I can’t remember which one it is
I don’t doubt that there are settings that are compatible. The tricky part is that h.264 has so many variants that it would be very time consuming to try to figure out which ones work. So it’s much easier to just say that it isn’t really supported, which is exactly the official position of Blackmagic Design.
Does the HDMI port pass thru the signal thats been recording so I could feed it to an OBS computer?
The HDMI output mirrors the SDI output. They both show whatever is currently recording or playing.
hi i have a canon 80d, and a c100 i bought the black magic box but i cannot seem to figure out how to hook up, can you help me at all? i am on a imac. i am struggling how to hook it up. i cant find anything that explains it, i feel like im missing something and i have sat here trtying to figure out for hours lol, im older and have learning curve on this
The Canon 80D, and it looks like the C100 as well, only has an HDMI output, but the HyperDeck Studio Mini doesn't have an HDMI input. So you have to convert the HDMI to SDI first. Here are two that I own and like: djp.li/bmdh2s6 and djp.li/bmdmh2s
Hello Douglas. You have extensive experience of those so is there any way to playback non recorded file on Hdeck? Thanks in advance.
The HyperDeck Studio Mini and the latest Pro/Plus models can play ProRes and DNXHD files created on a computer.
Compatibility with MP4 is limited to the HyperDeck models introduced a few months ago and even then there are no guarantees. MP4 files have a lot of sub-formats and not all are going to be supported.
@@djp_video Thank you Doug. I stumbled on Video playback part 1 which was very interesting video of yours. Thank you, it is good to see such a pioneers as you are who are sharing info to others.
Hi Doug, I'm looking for at solution to record from a URSA Mini 4K and two Micro Studio 4K cameras (studio setup) into three HyperDeck Studio Minis. Will ref-in take the timecode from the URSA, and sync to the other HyperDecks via ref-in//out? Thank you for some great informative videos!!
The Ref In/Out signal is only for synchronization; it doesn't contain timecode information. Timecode is, however, carried as part of the SDI video signal, and the HyperDeck recorders will use this if it is present.
Doug Johnson Productions So as my Micro Studio 4K cams do not carry any TC how would you make sure the three recordings was in TC sync? Can I somehow copy the TC from one to the other or would the regular Hyperdeck with SSDs be the way to go?
@@FlemmingEiberg Since the Micro Studio cameras were designed for live use, they don't support timecode; they have no input for it. The Ursas don't have a timecode input either. So you'd need to find a product to inject the timecode data into the SDI video stream. I haven't looked, but I'm not personally aware of any such products. As an alternative, you could use something like the Tentacle Sync to record timecode into one of the audio channels, but then you'd have to figure out a way to decode that from the recorded files.
The HyperDecks don't have timecode inputs either. They'll use timecode if it exists in the SDI video, but you're on your own if it doesn't.
@@FlemmingEiberg Tentacle Sync...they have software to decode the files and export.
Doug, Can you tell me what the normal operating function of a HyperDeck controlled by a ATEM Mini is. I am testing a Playback Bee, and when I cut to the input that has the "PlaybackBee" it plays the clip just like a HyperDeck. But when I cut to the next camera, the "PlayoutBee" continues to play the previous clip, in my case it is input 7 and I see it still running in the multi view window. I am wondering if this is how an actual HyperDeck functions. I thought it would stop playing once It is no longer on program. In addition, if I reselect the "PlayoutBee", it does not start from the beginning, it keeps playing from wherever it was, which could be the last few frames, then it stops and holds on the last frame. I know this can be managed manually, but thought I would ask what your experience is since you use them a lot.
The HyperDeck does the same thing. That's the way that the ATEM integration works.
@@djp_video Thank you!!!
Hey Doug....I noticed that I have to switch my audio setting form 5 or 7.1 to stereo to hear some of the audio on your videos...don't know why...just letting you know.
That's strange. I'm uploading them as monaural files.
@@djp_video even this video...I had to switch in order to hear the audio...but don't worry, I still watch them nonetheless.
I just purchased a Studio Mini and I haven't figured out how to get it to only play one file.
Whenever I hit the play button, it plays all the way to the end of the card.
Any tips?
Thanks...
JJ
There isn't a way to do it from the front panel.
If you use an ATEM switcher and connect it to a HyperDeck from within ATEM Software Control, by default when you select a video clip from that interface it only plays one file at a time.
thanks a lot!
What is the recording limit of a clip, before it swaps over to card B, and back again? I think the shuttle 2 is 1 hr 46 min then it starts another clip.
I'm not aware of a time limit.
@@djp_video thx for the quick reply.. Also, how is the h.264 quality is there a significant quality degradation.. How much percent would you say there is from pro res compared to h.264 is there in quality loss?
That really depends on what you're shooting. If you've got fast action, a lot of camera movement, or a noisy/grainy image, the quality loss will be a lot worse than a static shot like these videos here on my channel.
am i able to do instant replay with the hyperdeck studio mini and the atem mini ?
any advice ? thanks!
I wouldn't recommend it. The HyperDecks can either play or record, not do both. For effective replay, you usually need to continue recording while you're playing back recorded video.
@@djp_video Thanks Doug! any option to make instant replays for college sports ?
@@djmarzek The most budget friendly solution I've found is vMix on a Windows PC with a DeckLink capture card.
Very comprehensive information. Can you attach an SSD drive to the USB-C?
Not with the HyperDeck Studio Mini. The 12G versions of the Video Assist monitors and HyperDeck Extreme can, though.
@@djp_video Thanks for that info Doug. A shame, I just bought three and had to spend a fortune on SD cards!
Oxford Blue might you want to sell one?
Hey Doug have you used the app that sopposed to work with this? It’s called the HyperRemote and cosr 4.99 in the apple store I believe.
I'm a Windows user, so I haven't tried that one. I plan to create my own.
I actually tried it. It does work. It’s an extremely old iOS app. I think there is a free version which is what I tried because I don’t remember paying and I wouldn’t pay for this app because I have no need for it.
Satinder Dhindsa okay thanks there was only one review on it and it was 2 years old and said it had not been updated but I got the strata pro app for iPad to control the 1me I was told you can start and stop the hyderdeck on it too have you tried it? All our stuff I going to be software based so we’re looking into different options between windows and apple softwares
Kasey Tanner I have all of the Strata apps but I don’t recall that you can have any control of the hyperdeck. Maybe if you setup a macro and triggered a macro to record. But I don’t think there’s any direct hyperdeck control on the app
Hi Doug. I recently got the ATEM mini and the hyperdeck studio. I have been rattling my brain at how to get the ATEM Software Control to detect the hyperdeck mini.
The Hyperdeck mini is connected both through USB amd Ethernet through my home network. I can transfer files to the hyperdeck through Filezilla (although I can't get the files to play a whole other issue) but no matter how many times I put in the IP address, the ATEM Software won't recognize the hyperdeck.
I have the latest firmware of the ATEM Software and the desktop video software. I don't know what else to do.
Any advise?
Not really. I haven’t seen that behavior. Try contacting BMD support. They’re usually pretty good.
James, if you haven't solved that problem yet, be sure you double and triple check your ip address settings.
The Hyperdeck must have a unique address. One way to test is to power off the Hyperdeck then ping that ip address. There should be no response from anything. If there is a reply, then there is something else on the network with the same address.
This can easily happen if your router dhcp range includes the addresses you want for the bmd equipment.
It can also happen if you enter the wrong address by mistake. That is what happened to me. I was sure that my Hyperdeck had one address, I had written it down and even put it on a label. When I checked I found that I set it wrong and wrote down the wrong numbers.
ExecTech hey i enter the up address that appears but it wasn’t responding. I had to keep putting in different addresses until I found one.
So that problem solved the main problem now is I cannot playback videos I transferred from the computer
@@JamesJacksonFilmz One problem solved opens up others! In other videos, though, Doug mentions that the Hyperdeck can play back it's own videos no problem, but can't seem to play back videos recorded somewhere else.
also, if you have access to the router settings, you can program in the "dhcp range". On my own systems I usually do that. for example dhcp can use 192.168.1.100 to 1.200, then I put all set static addresses between 1.1 and 1.99, but I also try to keep a record of what is what to help avoid conflict. Sometimes I even remember to check my lists.
what kind of network switch do you use in your rack?
I have a whole pile of them. These are the main ones:
Main trailer switch: TP Link T2600G-52TS (No PoE) - amzn.to/2YgngzQ
Breakout box: TP Link T1600G-28PS (with PoE) - amzn.to/2Yc8pqb
Main switcher rack: Linksys LGS116P (with PoE) - amzn.to/2JUkZ4u
Small switcher rack: TP-Link TL-SG1016PE (with PoE) - amzn.to/2JLgbOC
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Thanks for creating this video. I am a smaller RUclips channel and have been look to add this to my ATEM Mini. The software I use to record my videos records in .MOV. My cameras record to a .MP4 file. I have gone through the manual for the HyperDeck Studio Mini and can see what file formats it will play. I talks about codecs but I dont think in those terms. Can you shed any light on this? Thanks
The HyperDeck Studio Mini is very picky about what video formats it will play. Of course it will play anything that it records, but it is really difficult to make it work with other files, no matter where they come from. I think I can safely tell you that it isn't going to be able to play files recorded by your camera directly.
There's also a bit of confusion out there about file formats vs video codecs. A video codec (actually CoDec for coder/decoder) refers to the way the contents of the file are compressed. h.264, MPEG-2, etc. are codecs. Each of these different video formats can be stored in different file types. Normally a .mp4 file uses the h.264 codec, but it doesn't have to. Likewise, an MOV extension doesn't really tell you anything about what video code is used inside the file for the video. So an MOV file might use .mp4, or Apple ProRes, or any other number of video codecs. (And beyond the codec, there are various flavors and settings within a codec that can make it incompatible with a particular piece of gear.) Whatever devices or software you use have to support both the file format, the codec, and the specific version of the both. In the case of the HyperDeck Studio Mini, it supports .mov files with very specific implementations of ProRes, DNxHD/HR, or h.264. But, again, it is very, very picky about the files that it will accept and play. So even if you do save a ProRes video into an MOV file, the chance of the HDSM being able to play it is still very, very low.
@@djp_video Thanks for your explanation. BlackMagic could take some lessons from you. I explained to them that I was a small RUclipsr but they wouldnt even try to meet me halfway.
Obviously I need to increase my knowledge about codecs vs file formats. Your message was a great explanation of the differences. BlackMagic could have done this very easily.
As a short term solution, I may shoot the video with the camera and then play it back to the HyperDeck Mini and let it record it. Granted a crude solution but it might get me by until I can figure out a transcoding solution.
@@TechBytesRN Hi, if you're in the Adobe world, I had good experiences with simply converting my files with Adobe Media Encoder, using the "Adobe Stock HD with Audio" Preset. This rendered playable B-Roll from virtually any source file I fed to it. I haven't checked out the 4k options yet, but for Full HD this preset definitely worked for me.
@@davidfox6501 Thanks for the suggestion. Will take a look at it. Havent been a fan of the monthly subscription plan they want everyoen to go to. Will see if I can get Adobe Media Encoder separately. I have order a Blackmagic HDMI to SDI converter and will try sending the video from the camera to the HyperDeck Studio Mini to see if that might be an option.
@@davidfox6501 THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS EXPLANATION!!!!!!!!!!!
Got my hands on one recently...SDI loop out works...maybe this was fixed in a firmware update?
Kerro876 The Mini doesn’t have a Loop output. It has two outputs, but in playback mode they’ll output the playing video rather than than the input signal
@@djp_video well considering it doesnt do playback and record at the same time im not surprised...but for my purposes...bringing in a camera feed into the sdi in...recording it...while also sending the same signal out to my ATEM...this works perfectly...which is essentially "loop out" in a sense is it not?
Can I record from my regular ATEM mini to the hyper deck
With an HDMI to SD converter you could.
Can you playback and record at the same time?
No. It's one or the other, but not both at the same time.
Great video,
these recorders are really good but I would like 12G version.
Very informative. One thing I don't know why it's happening is that it doesn't power on when over Poe. I have to put power chord to power on and post that if I remove the power chord than only it takes power on over POE.
Many of us would.
This would also be interesting if it could A) have an HDMI input (as stated.) In an effort to B) record sources straight to a digital, web-ready format.
With HD sources, the HDSM will record to h.264, which is quite web-ready.
I been having trouble find out my version nums on my blackmagic, hyper deck studio mini & My smart scope duo, smart view duo. Yes i try BM techs there so rude!
The most sure way is to install the software from the Blackmagic Design website, connect the device over USB, and then the software will tell you what version you have. It will also give you the option to update if newer software is available.
Does anyone know how to do ganged playback on the HyperDeck Studio Mini? I'm using Video SDI out on two HyperDeck Studio Mini, and a SDI cable to connect the first unit's ref out to the second unit's ref in. However, I have no idea, how to sync playback.
I assume when you press play on the primary the secondary should start playback as well, but so far nothing is happening on the secondary unit. I've been unable to find instructions for ganged playback on the Blackmagic website, or any website for that matter.
Blackmagic originally promised this feature when they announced the product, but it hasn't ever materialized. I don't think there is a supported way to trigger playback on one unit from another.
You could likely rig up something to work. If multiple players are connected to the same reference source (tri-level sync), and you had some way to cue up the first frame of the clip, wait for all to indicate that that command had been executed, then send the Play command to all of them simultaneously, they should stay in sync for the duration of that clip (since they are synced to the same source). The TCP/IP command interface should be sufficient to trigger playback at the same time on multiple decks, as long as those commands are sent at the same time.
Update... I just checked the Ref Out on the HDS Mini and it does indeed provide its own tri-level sync signal. So if you were to connect this to a second unit, those two units would output video frames in sync with one another. You'd still need a way to cue and trigger playback simultaneously, but they should stay in sync once you do.
@@djp_video Thanks, I've raised a support ticket with BMD. So hopefully they have a simple solution. If not I'll have to work something out in C#, to trigger play back.
You are right, third party controllers are required to do gang playback
Hi, Am from Chennai, India. My Questions:
1. How long can we record in 1080p 50fps mode as well 2160p in 128gb SD Card???
2. What would happen if the power supply suddenly lost while recording... either will get clip of the last few seconds before issue or have to lost the whole clip of last or whole SD Card footage??
I mean is there any auto breakup session inbuilt recording (Backup possibility)??
Recording time depends on which codec you select. Roughly speaking a 128 GB card is good for between 20 and 240 minutes.
If power is lost, you'll lose a few seconds of recording, but most of it will still be intact.
@@djp_video Thank you for ur valuable reply... Also is there any glitch or jump inbetween the recording while doing a long day recordings???
Also i'm little confused with choosing Hyperdeck Studio mini or video assist 12g recorder.... My usage will be like a full day recording(9am -9pm) conferences... Could you suggest me the best on ur viewpoint... seen review like video assist getting heat issue for longer duration...is that so???
Mahendran N The transition between clips when switching between cards is seamless.
I haven’t done any all-day recording with my Video Assist. For longer duration recording I always use my HyperDeck Studio Minis because they can do h.264 (the VA monitors don’t). If I’m recording that long it’s nice to have the extra compression of h.264 compared to ProRes to keep the file sizes manageable.
Well, that sucks, I just bought this unit thinking I could loop through the SDI, and now I know I can't. So, plan B, use the Program HDMI from the ATEM to feed my encoder and use the Program SDI from the ATEM to feed my HyperDeck. I can do that right??????
Yes. That will work.
The SDI output will echo the input if you are recording or in record standby mode. If that works, you can use that.
@@djp_video So the ATEM 4K Production studio will allow the HDMI and SDI to both output the program at the same time? Just wanting to make sure I understand correctly?
Yes, both outputs work simultaneously.
can this unit record and playback at the same time for live streaming; and the playback is what I'm sending out to the live stream
No. It can play or record, but not both simultaneously.
@@djp_video what can you recommend
The least expensive solution I can think of is vMix with a capture card on a computer.
@@djp_video@ Doug Johnson Productions reason I have this is that when you do live music stream it never sounds the same as the DAW but if I record the same video and then reply to it it sounds great when it's streamed. I understand this happens due to youtube compressing the file.
If you're re-uploading after the fact any recorder will work.
I'd love to see how graphics would be used through the hyper deck. Even just for simple things like pre rendered lower thirds.
I'll add that to my list of video ideas.
So these will not support timecode in then?'
Timecode embedded in the SDI signal is supported, displayed on the LCD, and recorded.
So now SANDISK stopped making the 95 MB/s cards..Im afraid there will come a time when none of the recommended SD cards will work... Please lets talk Blackmagic Design into updating the firmware so the USB can record the video to an external SSD Hard Drive... THAT WOULD BE GREAT!!!!! Great video by the way, Thanks!!!
I can certainly mention it.
The list of certified cards hasn't really been kept up-to-date. But the more important principle is getting cards that can do sustained high-speed writing. Those aren't too hard to find. I even have a database of some on my website: djp.li/cardperf
I always use the new Sony G series SD Card with 299 mb/s writing speed! it works really great
@@djp_video THANK YOU!!!
Does this record video+audio?
Any audio embedded in the SDI signal will be recorded.
Why you need it if you can record directly in cameras? Like cinema packet 4K or 6K when you can not only record in SD but in SSD as well.
Primarily to record the program output of a video switcher... But it would also be useful to create a higher quality or backup copy of what a camera is recording. On our high profile projects we record in-camera as well as separately. And record at least two copies of the program output.
The hyperdeck I.P address has to be the same as the ATEM Studio HD?
They have to be different. But you have to tell the ATEM the address of the HyperDeck do they can talk to one another
@@djp_video thanks Doug, I have had issues with the hyperdeck mini with the studio HD - Any suggestions for useful resources? As youtube has quite a few videos but nothing showing the in depth process from atem studio HD, hyperdeck mini, Web presenter. Any chance we could get that soon? As your content is by far the best.
@@mastercheif1989 What kinds of issues? It has worked well for me
@@djp_video Basically a wiring diagram.
* Plug both devices (and a computer) into an Ethernet network. Assign unique IP addresses in the same subnet to each
* Connect SDI video output A of HyperDeck to SDI input of switcher. If you need fill/key capabilities, connect output B to a second SDI input
* If you have a video source you want to record (like the ATEM), connect it to the SDI input of the HyperDeck.
My old boss used to get so steamed when I said the words "a video production company called..." He said we should just say (ex.) "company X from (ex. Orem, UT.)" Wanted us to sound way more confident in our discussions about ourselves with clients, etc.
Considering that 75% of the views on my channel are coming from non-subscribers, some sort of introduction as to who we are makes a lot of sense.
Can you record to both SD cards at once?
No. It only records to one card at a time
@@djp_video ah that's a bummer. Would be an easy upsell to my clients to buy the straight out of my switcher footage on an SD card and still have a copy for myself.
Take a look at the BMD Duplicator 4K. www.blackmagicdesign.com/products/blackmagicduplicator4k
@@djp_video that's an option at least. Still a bit overkill and then that lacks a few features that the hyperdeck studio can do in a live streaming setting that this duplicator can't. Do you think it's a hardware limitation or could a software patch let you record to both at once?
How can I record in 2160p? I can only record in 1080p and ProRes does not record, I press it and it cuts the recording, could you help?
Is your SD card fast enough? Do you have the latest firmware?
@@djp_video yes, I have version 8.1.1 and a Samsung T7 SSD to store the recording
Which version of the HyperDeck do you have? Original Studio Mini from 2017? Newer Studio HD Mini from 2021? Or a different model?
The HyperDeck Studio Mini from 2017 will record 2160p29.97 in ProRes/DNxHR.
The newer HyperDeck Studio HD Mini does not support 2160p -- it is limited to 1080p59.94. The 2021 line only supports 2160p on the HyperDeck Studio Plus and up.
The two models look the mostly the same on the outside but are very different.
@@djp_video Perfect Doug, I understand, it really is the 2021 version. But the 2021 version has the option to record in ProRes, I already tried to factory reset the hyperdeck and nothing works, it records 7 frames and stops recording. I couldn't find an answer in any forum, do you have any idea what it is? Perhaps the error is that I am using an SSD and not an SD Card?
Have you formatted your SSD using the HyperDeck?
The T7 isn't a great SSD for use with the HyperDeck. Its sustained write speeds aren't high enough to allow you to record for long periods of time, but it shouldn't quit on you after just a few seconds. The older T5 does a better job. Or the SanDisk SSD Extreme Pro Portable line. I've heard that people have had difficulties using the T7. Personally I create my own using Sabrent USB-C enclosures with Samsung 970/980 NVMe SSDs, and those work great.
There are a bunch of different SD cards that are known to work. I've had really good luck with Lexar 1667X cards, which is what I use to record videos for this channel. But there are many other options. I have a whole video here on this channel about SD card options (ruclips.net/video/VMtAa3PKBJo/видео.html), and a website setup to help you select a card (djp.li/cardperf).
Can I use this with the intensity shuttle?
In what way?
I’d like to connect my intensity shuttle from my atem switcher to live stream and I need to record. So recording on the hyper deck and then outputting to my intensity shuttle
You could take the HDMI output of the HyperDeck and connect that to the HDMI input on your Intensity Shuttle.
how you input your audio
You'd need some device to embed the audio into the SDI video stream, such as the Blackmagic Audio-to-SDI Mini Converter
@@djp_video Does the SDI out carry audio?
@@LukeCypert Yes
Can it record to SSD??
Not the original 2017 version.
@@djp_video so the latest one can do it? The one with usb out?
Yes. A USB SSD can be used. I'd recommend going with a model with fast, consistent write speeds. This isn't a place to go cheap or you'll experience dropped frames or prematurely aborted recordings.
@@djp_video noted
Has anyone used a card bigger than 256gb?
i use 512gb cards
@@legislativeassemblyoftheno4568 which brand. Can you give us the link to the card. Thanks
I'm surprised your SD cards work they are a bit slow try the sony tough v90 they write at 300mbs
When you have to buy 30 or more of them, getting less expensive models is kind of important.
Does the usb out carry audio to the live stream or do I need to use hdmi?
The original HyperDeck Studio Mini does not output video via USB-C. The newer models introduced in 2021 all output both video and audio on USB-C.
@@djp_video will a firmware update to an older model allow video and audio over the USB?
@@charlespatt In theory it potentially could, but Blackmagic has no incentive to add new features to an older, discontinued product. And I've heard that they've pretty much maxxed out the capabilities of the hardware as it is.
@@djp_video Thanks. I picked mine up in 2020, I'll have to do a little research to see what improvements might be possible if any.