Alexa and the Sony Venice have screens on the side, and its apparently not an issue. But, the PYXIS has the screen on the side and suddenly it's an issue? Come on.
Yes it is a problem. Especially on a gimbal we are not flying venices on gimbals without a focus puller Venice and Alexa’s are team lead cameras the Blackmagic is for solo shooters so yes it’s a problem
@@BRobin2023 it´s not a vlog camera. If you want to use it on a gimbal, mount a monitor on the side. Works like a charm for me.If you are a solo shooter, you shouldn't bother buying a PYXIS, since the videos you produce will either way be average looking.
I suspect BM will build a small monitor with buttons which can run off the USB-C port in the front, and then these side screen concerns will be alleviated. As is, it’s a great lightweight shoulder camera. Strap a phone or hotspot to the opposite side, tap into a BM Cloud Project, and you’ve got a fantastic show floor coverage system with a remote editor. Or stream live if you like. That sort of thing you can’t do out of the box with an FX6. And that’s the thing. BM always leads with their broadcast background to build cameras which lean in a different direction than many other cine brands, and though for $3k you don’t get internal ND options or continuous autofocus, you do get a lot of rock solid OS value not found in other cameras. I suppose that’s another thing to keep in mind. They are driven by live-production reliability where there’s no time to fiddle around. When the feed goes to your camera, it had better be working or the broadcast booth isn’t going to be happy.
This thing is a killer camera old tech meets new tech, full frame, open gate, SDI,streams and starts at $3000 everyone has to have this camera it’s 6k too. This is a camera you can start with on grow with for years to come.
You can grow with it of your happy with a crap screen, poor battery option, no AF, no IBIS, no full size XLR Input. And no ND filters!!!!!! Call that a cine camera????? No thanks, I'll pass.
"13 stops of dynamic range is not impressive whatsoever." The Arri Alexa Plus had 13.8 stops of dynamic range and is credited with tons of major theatrical releases. I own two Ursa Mini Pro's and a Sony FX9. I ONLY reach for the Sony when my corporate clients specifically ask for it. Besides that, I ALWAYS prefer the look, menu's and operation of my Blackmagic cameras over my Sony any day.
Most cameras these days have the same dynamic range. The manufacturers advertise way above what the cameras can actually see. ARRI and BM are just honest with their marketing
Brother, with 8 full length feature films under my belt, I can SAFELY assure you, this camera was made strictly for movie DPs. Nothing else. Everything about it screams real cinema camera. If you are not making movies, this camera is definitely not for you. One luv!
@@dareckmaurice4295 It's perfect for a one man band that's shooting movies or high end music videos because he or she will be in a controlled environment. It is NOT for run and gun shooting or wedding type shooting. That's what I meant and what people are not understanding. People want it to be a run and gun camera, which it is NOT.
@@guguemichaelsabsolutely correct! I think because of systems like LiDAR which can create this cinema glass- auto focus type space, people are mentally “tampering” with the original purpose of a “cinema camera/glass” and trying to “make” a cinema camera a run n gun dslr
@@guguemichaelsthanks for the info, I'm looking for a run and gun camera and am heavily leaning toward the FX3, hopefully I'm not making an expensive mistake when there is something better.....I'm looking to shoot a decent amount at night too (cars, motorcycles).
Consumers: I don’t a camera that needs NO rigging at all.. give me a box camera that I can rig to the max! BM: here you go. Consumer: there’s no screen, I want to just grab a camera and go! BM: wut
For real! The comments I've seen in the community are absolutely mind-boggling. Guess people will always complain regardless. Blackmagic has basically covered most ground right now with their line ups to accommodate for most shooting styles and at a very affordable price compared to the competition. Let's not forget the image quality they produce as well. I find it funny how people complain about dynamic range being 13 stops when neither fx6 nor komodo has any more than that. Dont get me wrong, having 15 stops on the ursas is amazing but the 13 stops are amazing. Only a few years back people were using 8bit footage with less than 10 stops of DR and praising the image
The amount of RUclipsrs who are mad this isn’t a vlog camera is blowing my mind, there’s no way all these people supposedly in the same profession have completely different definitions of a cinema camera
The controversy is specifically between Indy solo shooters vs. production team shooters. The Pyxis is NOT meant to be a handycam with a little flip-out screen you take on your family vacation! A 4" screen is too hard to pull focus with. You need an external monitor.
3:26 I asked them at the booth yesterday about built in NDs. They said it couldn’t happen on the camera due to the sensor, size of the body and mounts. It is a shame as that would’ve been amazing. But the value for this is incredible.
For the clicks. Most of these videos are sorta dumb with their complaining. Is the side monitor as optimal as having an external monitor? Nope, but you could be shooting 6K open gate without any extras right out of the box. Nobody says that.
Let's compare it to the S5iix that cost 2k, the blackmagic has a 4 year old sensor, no AF and no ibis and no prores and a very poor screen choice, poor battery choice. Producing a box format cine style camera with no ND filters is unforgivable in this day and age.
@@50450720 The S5iix is not a box camera and doesn't have ND filters, right? Looking at B&H, I can see the Panasonic BS1H, Red Komodo 6K and ZCam E2-F6 are box cameras without IBIS or ND filters. The Sony FX6 at double the price does have IBIS and ND filters, but oh no! It has the forbidden battery. Whine, whine, whine! Go buy a whatever floats your boat and be happy. The idea that camera manufacturers exist to add every feature you want the way you want is ludicrous. There's compromises to every choice. But there are lots of choices.
@@50450720 I think these odd choices are driven by BM not wanting the Pyxis to directly compete against the Pocket 6k Pro. Meaning if this camera had a better form factor and the same features or even better features at the same price why would anyone buy the Pocket 6k Pro. Thus no internal ND, ProRes, and Flip out screen.
I think they're targeting RUclipsrs. I have absolutely no need for one (shooting all my stuff on Sony a7 IV, which is perfectly adequate) however, I'm also a gearhead and I'd absolutely love to own it, together with a Nisi Athena 25 and DJI Lidar Pro? Sign me in. Because I'm weak that way, and I imagine I'm not the only one :)
Open gate is crazy. I love that it does 3:2. What I love about our Reds is the magnesium body. It feels big time. It’s durable & tough. I was about to grab an Fx6 but went for Fx3 because it’s so tiny but amazing. Pyxis will be a solid C camera. I’m definitely grabbing it
nothing it wrong with mini XLR. full size XLR is just more common. Means you'll always get adapters for products that are design for full size XLR. not a big deal, just another thing that needs to be thought about
I love the fact that your opinions are fair and like a real pro you respect your tool and find it serve your purpose. I believe that the Pyxis is more about introduction and adaptation. It is not perfect, but hey imperfections are room for improvements. Have a gud one mate
Regarding V-mount. Even a mini V-mount would cover all your ports on the back, so instead of straight cable runs to the rear, you end up with cables sticking out in all directions. Instead they’ve settled for a narrower battery option and given us a 2-pin lemo style connector for external power. I have no complaints about that design decision.
One upside about BP-U is that it serves as an redundant power source that allows you to hot swap external power source if needed, whether that is AC power, V mount, or gold mount, as long as you have a lemo cable to plug into the camera.
Sorry sony users no AF here. You started off by saying not specific and then contradicted yourself by saying why it didn't have specific things. Ie, You cant put a camera with a V mount on a gimble quickly where as BP battery can be converted to V mount with ease. Perfect compromise. Having A locking EF mount is next level and far more professional than the photo based mount.
But isn’t it better to have the option to choose between lighter batteries or vmount? If the camera came with the vmount plate built in, then you would be stucked with that
@@diegocasares6968 yes. I think you’re right. The red Komodo x locks you into a vmount or gold mount. This is similar to the fx6 which gives you the option to stick to bpu or vmount aftermarket
Pretty good analysis of the Pyxis. The only point you made that was incorrect was the 14 stops of dynamic range. 99% of camera manufacturers will lie/embellish their camera dynamic range through various methods, cheeky I know but who will check! Blackmagic and Arri are the only manufacturers that post the "actual" real life dynamic ranges of their chips, not a boosted ideal condition lab-test results. So when Blackmagic say 13.7 (14) stops you can bet its much more than the FX6 or any other camera that's stating 15-16 stops.
the 14stops of dynamic range is "claimed" stops by BlackMagic. The information is not incorrect rather not transferrable to real world as we have seen with every camera manufacturer.
For me, only thing i would have love is the internal ND, others flaws I can work with. this camera will rock in control environment, i.e interview, I will hang with Lumix S5mk2X as my choice and see if this will come with features cant be ignore for upgrade. for now ill pass on this one.
Agreed, Would have paid extra for internal ND's (and maybe just a flip screen? What??) . Has the form factor but disappointed that they didn't include internal ND's and flip screen. Been an URSA owner in the past, and the image quality was phenomenal and really appreciated the internal ND's. The fact they've repackaged the 6K Pocket and failed to include internal ND's whilst in a 'run and gun' form factor genuinely surprises me. Seems like they almost get there yet miss the mark over and over. Don't get me wrong, they'll no doubt sell many at this price point either wat and Blackmagic are a phenomenal company with incredible products and of course colour science, to me they just missed the mark by a smidge on this, and even if slightly more expensive, I reckon they would have sold a bucket load more if this camera. If it had the Canon C400 feature set, and even was similar in price, I'd be in. Right now, C400 is what I'm looking at next though, especially with the 24-105 f.28 lens. (Another brand shift for me from Sony! Oh dear! lol!) PS Expensive hobby this GAS problem. Still though, that image quality from Blackmagic is so Arri like at a fraction of the cost. Hats off to Blackmagic for bringing filmic image quality on a budget yet again, just disappointed it was not enough for me to pull the trigger. (Disclaimer: My thoughts are my thoughts only and in no way are definitive or correct. Every one will have different opinions. These are just mine)
So you basically want a 15000$ camera at a price of 3000$😅? It's just a box design Blackmagic 6k FF and it's for my part all that I wanted. And for the batteries used, I think it's a good decision, because it makes it much more modular (gimbal > fully rigged). About the screen, it doesn't bother me at all, because I always use an external monitor anyway. And when you talk about the 13 stops, it's basically the same as the Blackmagic 6k FF, and I'm always impressed by the image coming from this camera. It's even better than a FX3/FX6 when we talk about highlight rolloff (not as good in the shadows area tho). But yes if you really want to complain, sure it's not the perfect camera, but did you really hope having the perfect camera for that cheap?
tons of these so-called 'cinematographer' youtubers are just overhyping on this camera. basically it's just a 'rehoused' 6k full-frame cinema pocket with SDI port. that's it nothing more special. i can bet, they'll come out with 'pro' version with internal NDs, just like what they did with their 'Pro' cinema pocket. so why bother with this version when you know after a year or so, the 'Pro' version will come out.
Exactly. Im just mindblown at how this video hypes up the price as if its groundbreaking. And comparing it to RED box cameras that'd all cost 3x more due to the sensor, not just the form factor, is confusing. Do people really value a box form that much? Is it supposed to be 1,000+ dollars simply to make a camera in a box with SDI? Its so bizarre given most people interested have absolutely 0 neccessity for it.
They've made a great entry with this form-factor. Everyone's been clamoring for it for years. I read that they probably won't be able to get internal NDs in because of the sensor size but damn wouldn't it be nice? Side screen doesn't bother me. This cam is built for making movies and your 1AC should be pulling focus on a hi-res external anyway. Either way, whatever else Blackmagic brings to the table in the next version, they'll still be knocking the competition's dix in at their ridiculously tasty price point.
3:42 that was also a big deal regarding the battery yesterday when I spoke with them at the booth. All their cameras have been horrible at battery life without a V or Gold Mount. But they said you can get three hours with just one battery that’s amazing.
@JasonMorrisphotocinema is a nice guy and quite objective but true, he is just too much into mirrorless and video cameras (specially Sony), and coming from Australia I don't get that he is not fan of Blackmagic. If I were Grant Petty I should send him a Pyxis for free so he will be able to try it and discover by himself the magic of that FF sensor in Braw recording and the BM color science.
9:48 One of the Blackmagic folks told me yesterday that many were asking for a pocket Cinema camera in a box style body with SDI and they did that for $2999.00. It is pretty sweet. As for the EVF. I was extremely impressed that for $1695. You can have an EVF that I can say competes with the likes of the best of them. It was excellent to see it on this camera as well as the Ursa Cine with a locking usbc connection
Damn, seems like after all these years the FX3 and FX6 are still the best bang for the buck, while the FX6 is slightly better for news and generally fast pace stuff and the FX3 being slightly better for more cinema or commercial kind of stuff, while both easily can do the other ones job. Sonys color science just isnt all the best. But if you are new to the market, even with all their downsides and upsides - Sonys FX3 and FX6 are probably the best choices. I dont mention the FX9 here - because its honestly a very neiche choice since its the only one in the FX3, FX6 and FX9 lineup that supports interlaced scanning, which definitely only matters if you are broadcasting live. Its perfectly fine to record in progressive for TV purposes. Recording in interlaced is really only a feature worth mentioning when broadcasting live on TV, depending on what devices you are using to do that production. You could argue that the FX9 has a couple more buttons than the FX6 and more funtional weight, but those can be also added in a rig. Also, a FX9 cannot be used on a typical gimbal. The FX6 can kinda do it, but you wont have audio, the FX3 has no compromises on a gimbal, which is why I'd prefer it unless you exactly know what feature you 100% need from the FX6, such as the integrated non polarizing variable ND-filters (these screw on Vario-NDs are funny toys but definitely not viable for serious work because they unwillingly change your reflections. Whenever you use a polarizing filter in a serious manner - it cannot be more than one at a time. If your rig has 2 or more polarizing filters anywhere infront of your cameras sensor or film, its a toy in 99.9999999% of use cases). If you have time on your hands, the FX3 is the best bang for the buck camera. Fun fact, the FX3 also has the highest resolution recording capabilities. While the FX6 and FX9 offer 4K DCI (4096x2160, 17:9) at 60p 16 bit RAW over SDI, the FX3 offers a slightly higher res 4.2K DCI (4264x2408, 17:9) at 60p and also has quicker slomo capabilities. So if your shoots offer you time to fiddle with ND-filters (there are also magnetic ones these days), the FX3 is the best bang for the buck on the Sony side. Its really a bummer, Blackmagic didnt give us any integrated ND filters at all. Thats a deal breaker. The FX3 may also not have ones, but therefore it offers a MUCH smaller form factor for example. And this camera is already like 3 years old.
So hilariously, the dynamic range of 14 stops that ARRI claimed on Alexa mini just destroyed the 15 +stops on fX3. Hope the DR of this 13stops is as conservative as ARRI.
There seems to be so much confusion around DR. I own an F55, you’ve seen that as A cam on Insidious 3, Deliver is from evil, and the ENTIRE series of the Blacklist. Sony rates the F55 at 14 stops, its actual is about 11. So tell me what you think you need 15+ stops for? I’d love to hear it as the F55 that I shoot with has been proven, time and time again.
@@kamikaze1213 you’re right. Dynamic range doesn’t mean squat when there is story involved. It does almost nothing to enhance a story. When lit correctly dynamic range is nullified due to more even range
It's literally the same sensor as the FF so dynamic range is the same. Which btw is insanely good for $3K. Don't agree with his not impressive DR comment all - if someone can't get a great looking shot with a recent BM camera the problem is not the camera lol.
@@hivetech4903 Its ok, but its not "insanely good" dynamic range when 1,900 dollar hybrid cameras have better DR. S5ii has around half a stop or more on it, and Sony at 2,500 does as well. It's objectively below average DR for 3,000 dollars, while the box cam form is where the value is. It almost couldnt be LOWER of a DR and still be sellable. I think some Canon cameras with log limitations and the Sigma FP might be the only 2 full frame modern cameras with worse DR.
Look at the Arri Alexa SXT Plus specs and the specs of this 6K FF sensor. I was going to buy a used Alexa SXT that is 8 years old with similar options like 6:5 anamorphic, open gate 3:2. Etc etc. Priced at 11,900 euros exc VAT, then I see this bargain at $5400 AU body only. EVF not included. Now I can afford something decent and fly it on gimbals,steadicam without taking out a huge loan 💸
I've wanted an Fx6 for a year now but the price has been hindering the process. This Pyxis has me ticking....I think filmmaking has gotten lazier & everyone wants to get their hands on 15+ stops, internal ND's yada yada. Although it enhances the process it shouldn't change it..You still have to understand your lighting & put a ton of thought into your setup and the outcome it conveys to your story. For the price, this camera will benefit amateurs exponentially. For people wanting to compete in terms of imagery & price point, this takes the cake. For bigger players I could see this being used as a B cam to the Arri or Komodo & overall I like that BM moved to the Box design. I shoot on the S5 and the L mount option would be a massive help to my existing lineup. Would love to see a comparison of the Fx6 and Pyxis when you get your hands on it, Jason. Thanks for this video!
I would go with "hands on experience" in front with black magic cameras, before buying them. Low price shouldnt be only reason to buy it, because usability comes as challenge when you got the camera. I got bmc 6k G2, which was partly error bought by me, because Im more into run and gun cameras with weather sealing etc., so this camera was bit of disappointment for me because of some flaws in design and lack of continuous autofocus. Also with this model, there is air intake holes bottom of camera, which is problem for me if I take videos in nature (dirt, insects etc. might enter camera) If you need camera only for studio like environments and have money to buy more gear to rig it, then black magic cameras might be for you (But still I say, get hands on experience with usability to know cons/challenges and know that BRAW gonna take lot of hard drive space depending on data ratio). If I would buy camera costing under 3k now, I would likely go with Sony, possibly panasonic for more "hybrid situations" as solo shooter, simply to have my gear to be lighter, easier to pack and have IBIS and continuos autofocus for certain scenarios.
As a dedicated Blackmagic camera user for years (I own the original 1080p Pocket, 4k Pocket, Ursa Mini Pro 4.6k G1, Ursa Mini Pro 4.6 G2) I have never experienced any of your problems. My Ursa's have been subjected to harsh conditions and handled it like a champ. BRAW is one of the most data friendly RAW formats out there. Especially when the menu gives you compression options. NOBODY buys ANY Blackmagic camera for autofocus. But most importantly, why would anyone take advice from someone that "accidentally" buys a camera?
Well presented vid Jason. My thoughts: A Canon R5C isn't that much more expensive than this camera and it can do a lot of stuff the PYXIS won't. I think BM kinda phoned this one in.
I think evf is not useful for documentaries... If you film on gimbal or need to be film run and gun style that's not possible... I think their screen position is a nonsens... It kills this amazing camera.. Mini xlr... Dynamic range is short.... Actually I have the feeling they did all these to encourage people to buy her new big sister which is 15000 usd
Real-world DR will most certainly not be "short", BM is just conservative/accurate when they publish DR figures. This camera uses the same sensor as the 6KCC, S5ii and many other cameras. It has great DR.
@@simplyheen1150 yeah. I have one and I think it is very underrated like Fx3. You can have outstanding videos with it. Actually I saw a lot comparaison with Red Komodo and the video quality and color presented never match what I get with mine. Further more people always forget that the alpha 7 IV 4k is a downsampled 7K which is much more than 6k...and when people say that's useless cause many TV still broadcast in HD that's wrong... An image filmed in 4k converted into HD will still be much more detailed than a video shoot in HD...
In my opinion, the new black magic camera has a lot of good features for the price. But ZCAM is a better price for features camera.. I can spend $3000 and get a 6K full frame camera from them as well. And I shoot with a couple different types of ZCAM and these suckers are bulletproof from my experience. I do appreciate what black magic does for everything and what they’re doing with the 12 K camera more than this one.
How do y’all manage storage with these cameras? To record a hour of footage in the highest raw codec, it will be around a terabyte. Do you only use external drives and plug via a USB-C?
I'm going External monitor and call it a day, the Internal ND filters is coming 6 months to a year later, that's ALL Camera companies' philosophy, give the Customer SOME of the features but not ALL OF THE FEATURES in one swoop, everything will be delivered over time, they don't mind a customer's frustration.
While the price is the main draw, what its missing is glaring. Those hyping it up without experiencing it on a paid shoot may find themselves regrettably coming back down to Earth. I believe DM will take the tempeture of this offering and use the feedback to create the future Pyxes Pro that should have build in ND, shoot in ProRes, 14 stop range, 4K at 60 or even 120fps and 14 and maybe even 16 bit internal recording. With those upgrades, those hyping up the price of the Pyxis will also hype up a $4K to $5K price.
I really don't get why people keep mentioning the screen. Everybody wanted a box style camera so they can build a cinema rig. If you want the screen on the back stick with a mirrorless body.
How much does rolling shutter affect anamorphic footage? I know the BM Cinema FF 6k camera released last year has 25 mil seconds of rolling shutter at open gate 6k... Not the greatest for run and gun, so l'm just curious if that will make 2x anamorphic footage usable on this camera since it shares the same sensor technology. What do you think?
I don't understand why they make a screen on the side instead of making a flip screen. Black magic always problems with something battery, screen, etc…
Nice job Blackmagic on the side glued screen that the operator can't see. Wow! now I can finally shoot 120fps in FULL HD. What an upgrade for 2024! Who needs 4k 120 FPS? No one. And that 13 Stops Dynamic Range is why evryone should buy this. Who needs 14 stops? No one.
Getting pretty tired of the amount of misinformation and contrarian complaints coming out about this camera. The camera doesn’t haven’t a low amount of DR, it’s a competitive amount. BM markets 13 stops as that’s the clean number of stops, Sony markets “15” but that’s the total number of stops not the clean stops which when tested is about 13 stop or just shy of it. You don’t need to wait until the Pyxis comes out to see this, just look at footage from the BMCC6k… it’s the same sensor. What’s with all this complaining about the side screen??? Box style cameras traditionally don’t come with a screen at all, the FX6 doesn’t have a screen on the body at all, RED until very recently didn’t have screens at all and the ones they added are pretty much meant for quick adjustments and settings… just like the Pyxis. Everyone was going to run a monitor on top anyway, let’s not pretend we weren’t and it’s better that screen is on there than not at all. The Sony battery, just like the fx6, is there so you can build the camera up and down for gimbal use. You will be able to get a mount attachment just like the fx6 for when you’re running handheld or on sticks. It gives you flexibility in the size of the camera. The 2 complaints I do agree with that is fair is the lack of internal NDs. Not a big deal but would have been nice to have. And the rolling shutter performance is definitely a fair concern which is just a result of where we are in the industry at this point. However, it’s all a bit nullified by the price point, there is no other camera at this price offering internal compressed raw in a box style camera. So while the fx6, Komodo or c70 have advantages, they all cost double or more than double. You can’t have everything at half the cost 🤷♂️
That’s with any camera. You have to buy rigging equipment, external monitor, etc, for most cameras. What camera offers more or as much as this for $3k?
@@Eyeofkamau it's the same camera as the pocket 6k, with less feature, even took out pro res, but cost more for it's boxy form. fx30 : built in mic, auto focus, better ISO.. think it's about 1600 buying the EVA that they are showcasing on the camera is like 1700.. so trying to use the camera as is, you a least to buy a len, if don't already have one. need memory, batteries, a mic, and monitor, if u don't mind looking sideways view the recording. 3k just turned to 4k - 6k
@@jmac2050 it’s FF, so it’s the same camera as the BMCC6k, not the pocket6k. The cameras you listed aren’t coming close to this for proper production work. No one is using a built-in mic for audio, AF is rarelyever used in production, and better ISO? What does that mean? The systems use two different ISO scales. If you’re talking about lowlight, that is irrelevant given you’re in control of lighting. You’re talking about buying memory, a mic, lens, batteries and a monitor? Again, that’s with any camera lol. There is not a single camera on the market you can buy without having to spend 100s to 1000s more to built it out - unless you purchase it with a kit.
I think the design is way too bloated because of the screen. It's way too big for having essentially the guts of a BMPCC 6k. They should have ditched the inbuild screen to make it way smaller and shipped it with a stripped down Video Assist that could navigate the menus when connected (could use that front USB-C port). With all the box camera options out there now that are much more compact, with autofocus, I'm not sure the slight color science and codec advantage is enough to overlook the poor ergonomics. If I were doing gimbal work, I would take a Panasonic Lumix BS1H and a video assist any day over the Pyxis, and I would still get my Blackmagic Raw, and that camera has been out for several years now. Maybe for shoulder rigging the pyxis would be good, but I feel like they really missed the ball on this one. Their new Cine 12K however, now that is indeed ground breaking and incredible
@@JasonMorrisphotocinema same as the pocket 6k and offers no real new features to switch systems for. If you own the fx3 or fx6 keep them and invest your money instead of getting in the trap of new gear. Not saying you do this Josh but a lot of youtubers these days are just sales reps like that kofi guy switching systems every 6 months
Blackmagic PYXIS 6k is the most deceiving-looking camera of all time. it looks so professional and sturdy with all mounting points but it doesn't even have the basic features that professionals need. This camera is for amateurs and enthusiasts.
Sorry mate you cannot fault a 2999 value camera to have all the stuff you are complaining is missing! Just be grateful that Blackmagic made your FX6 obsolete, maybe you can upgrade to the 12k model instead.
@@305kubrick brother if you lined up 6 4k cameras and BM was in the pack you're not pointing out the BM image. You can choose the best from your eye test and BM wouldn't be the one you chose I bet. There's a reason they sell cheap
@@henrywatts6533 you mean the company that owns and develops the worlds best color grading software doesn’t know how to translate that color technology into their own cameras? Ok. 👍🏻
@@305kubrick DaVinci resolve is great, yes and there are a tons of ppl who you Adobe and Final Cut, and Hollywod loves Avid. Again, you place any Blackmagic camera on a table with any Arri, any Dragon, any Venice and the Blackmagic 12k will be sitting there. There is a reason the 12k started out $10k already cheap and now you can get it for $4k. Where are you going to find an 8k RED for $4k? The Epic Mx are still out there for $4k.
This camera is for everyone and no one. Just make it a bit bulkier to make the screen flip and put some ND and sell it for under 3500. I mean, when you reach the 3k price tag your target market can alllow itself to put 400 bucks more for a true new camera. Pussy move.
So you put your eye into the viewfinder and you smash the one side of your face into the side monitor. The oils of your face smearing the monitor. Oh brother !
Alexa and the Sony Venice have screens on the side, and its apparently not an issue. But, the PYXIS has the screen on the side and suddenly it's an issue? Come on.
Yes it is a problem. Especially on a gimbal we are not flying venices on gimbals without a focus puller Venice and Alexa’s are team lead cameras the Blackmagic is for solo shooters so yes it’s a problem
@@BRobin2023 it´s not a vlog camera. If you want to use it on a gimbal, mount a monitor on the side. Works like a charm for me.If you are a solo shooter, you shouldn't bother buying a PYXIS, since the videos you produce will either way be average looking.
@@BRobin2023 use a monitor
They nit picking
ofcourse. We can't compare it to cameras that are 100% designed for cinema purposes and require a 1st AC
I suspect BM will build a small monitor with buttons which can run off the USB-C port in the front, and then these side screen concerns will be alleviated. As is, it’s a great lightweight shoulder camera. Strap a phone or hotspot to the opposite side, tap into a BM Cloud Project, and you’ve got a fantastic show floor coverage system with a remote editor. Or stream live if you like. That sort of thing you can’t do out of the box with an FX6. And that’s the thing. BM always leads with their broadcast background to build cameras which lean in a different direction than many other cine brands, and though for $3k you don’t get internal ND options or continuous autofocus, you do get a lot of rock solid OS value not found in other cameras. I suppose that’s another thing to keep in mind. They are driven by live-production reliability where there’s no time to fiddle around. When the feed goes to your camera, it had better be working or the broadcast booth isn’t going to be happy.
yeah you're right. the value on this thing already is pretty insane
Yup, announced recently. Good guess!
This thing is a killer camera old tech meets new tech, full frame, open gate, SDI,streams and starts at $3000 everyone has to have this camera it’s 6k too. This is a camera you can start with on grow with for years to come.
what about the New Pocket Cinema 6k full frame?
The battery choice in that just kills it. That V mount modification could make it a winner.😊
You can grow with it of your happy with a crap screen, poor battery option, no AF, no IBIS, no full size XLR Input. And no ND filters!!!!!!
Call that a cine camera?????
No thanks, I'll pass.
@@50450720 to be fair though, a lot of the audio is recorded separately anyway. I'm not sure how much of a deal breaker the XLR input would be.
@@50450720same. Just the fact it has one mini XLR input is a joke. It’s not made for anything other than hype.
"13 stops of dynamic range is not impressive whatsoever." The Arri Alexa Plus had 13.8 stops of dynamic range and is credited with tons of major theatrical releases. I own two Ursa Mini Pro's and a Sony FX9. I ONLY reach for the Sony when my corporate clients specifically ask for it. Besides that, I ALWAYS prefer the look, menu's and operation of my Blackmagic cameras over my Sony any day.
Most cameras these days have the same dynamic range. The manufacturers advertise way above what the cameras can actually see. ARRI and BM are just honest with their marketing
Brother, with 8 full length feature films under my belt, I can SAFELY assure you, this camera was made strictly for movie DPs. Nothing else. Everything about it screams real cinema camera. If you are not making movies, this camera is definitely not for you. One luv!
so your saying for "One Man Bands" this is not the ideal camera?
@@dareckmaurice4295 It's perfect for a one man band that's shooting movies or high end music videos because he or she will be in a controlled environment. It is NOT for run and gun shooting or wedding type shooting. That's what I meant and what people are not understanding. People want it to be a run and gun camera, which it is NOT.
@@guguemichaelsabsolutely correct! I think because of systems like LiDAR which can create this cinema glass- auto focus type space, people are mentally “tampering” with the original purpose of a “cinema camera/glass” and trying to “make” a cinema camera a run n gun dslr
@@guguemichaelsthanks for the info, I'm looking for a run and gun camera and am heavily leaning toward the FX3, hopefully I'm not making an expensive mistake when there is something better.....I'm looking to shoot a decent amount at night too (cars, motorcycles).
@@theunrealworldpodcast The FX3 would be amazing for your use case and nobody is getting rid of them anytime soon.
Consumers: I don’t a camera that needs NO rigging at all.. give me a box camera that I can rig to the max!
BM: here you go.
Consumer: there’s no screen, I want to just grab a camera and go!
BM: wut
For real!
The comments I've seen in the community are absolutely mind-boggling. Guess people will always complain regardless.
Blackmagic has basically covered most ground right now with their line ups to accommodate for most shooting styles and at a very affordable price compared to the competition. Let's not forget the image quality they produce as well.
I find it funny how people complain about dynamic range being 13 stops when neither fx6 nor komodo has any more than that. Dont get me wrong, having 15 stops on the ursas is amazing but the 13 stops are amazing. Only a few years back people were using 8bit footage with less than 10 stops of DR and praising the image
@hhankx literally every thing ever.
The amount of RUclipsrs who are mad this isn’t a vlog camera is blowing my mind, there’s no way all these people supposedly in the same profession have completely different definitions of a cinema camera
The controversy is specifically between Indy solo shooters vs. production team shooters. The Pyxis is NOT meant to be a handycam with a little flip-out screen you take on your family vacation! A 4" screen is too hard to pull focus with. You need an external monitor.
3:26 I asked them at the booth yesterday about built in NDs. They said it couldn’t happen on the camera due to the sensor, size of the body and mounts. It is a shame as that would’ve been amazing. But the value for this is incredible.
They told me the same thing at NAB
Why is everyone comparing this camera to cameras that cost 2 or 3x more?
For the clicks. Most of these videos are sorta dumb with their complaining. Is the side monitor as optimal as having an external monitor? Nope, but you could be shooting 6K open gate without any extras right out of the box. Nobody says that.
Let's compare it to the S5iix that cost 2k, the blackmagic has a 4 year old sensor, no AF and no ibis and no prores and a very poor screen choice, poor battery choice.
Producing a box format cine style camera with no ND filters is unforgivable in this day and age.
@@50450720 The S5iix is not a box camera and doesn't have ND filters, right? Looking at B&H, I can see the Panasonic BS1H, Red Komodo 6K and ZCam E2-F6 are box cameras without IBIS or ND filters. The Sony FX6 at double the price does have IBIS and ND filters, but oh no! It has the forbidden battery. Whine, whine, whine! Go buy a whatever floats your boat and be happy. The idea that camera manufacturers exist to add every feature you want the way you want is ludicrous. There's compromises to every choice. But there are lots of choices.
@@50450720 What do you mean by 4 year old sensor? Here I thought Sensors were more or less the same but a different size.
@@50450720 I think these odd choices are driven by BM not wanting the Pyxis to directly compete against the Pocket 6k Pro. Meaning if this camera had a better form factor and the same features or even better features at the same price why would anyone buy the Pocket 6k Pro. Thus no internal ND, ProRes, and Flip out screen.
Hope they bring out a pro version with Internal NDs.
Spoke with the developer at NAB. I wouldn't count on it for quite a while.
I think they're targeting RUclipsrs. I have absolutely no need for one (shooting all my stuff on Sony a7 IV, which is perfectly adequate) however, I'm also a gearhead and I'd absolutely love to own it, together with a Nisi Athena 25 and DJI Lidar Pro? Sign me in. Because I'm weak that way, and I imagine I'm not the only one :)
hahahaha it certainly has crossed my thoughts thats for sure
Why do you think that? why RUclipsrs?
I am glad you put it into perspective. Not needed but as a gear head you would want it
Open gate is crazy. I love that it does 3:2.
What I love about our Reds is the magnesium body. It feels big time. It’s durable & tough.
I was about to grab an Fx6 but went for Fx3 because it’s so tiny but amazing.
Pyxis will be a solid C camera. I’m definitely grabbing it
What is it all the people have with miniXLR - they are great inputs, just get 2 short XLR to miniXLR cables - easy as!
Agreed! They have always worked perfectly fine on the pocket cinema 4k’s.
nothing it wrong with mini XLR. full size XLR is just more common. Means you'll always get adapters for products that are design for full size XLR. not a big deal, just another thing that needs to be thought about
@@JasonMorrisphotocinema Dude, you have a komodo X, did you say this about it?
@@bmefilms6879 absolutely I did. Komodo x is far from perfect and quite annoying at times with its work arounds
16 bit redcode raw is repackaged 12bit. And anyone can judge the footage from the pyxis because its the same exact sensor as the 6K Full Frame camera.
I love the fact that your opinions are fair and like a real pro you respect your tool and find it serve your purpose. I believe that the Pyxis is more about introduction and adaptation.
It is not perfect, but hey imperfections are room for improvements.
Have a gud one mate
Regarding V-mount. Even a mini V-mount would cover all your ports on the back, so instead of straight cable runs to the rear, you end up with cables sticking out in all directions. Instead they’ve settled for a narrower battery option and given us a 2-pin lemo style connector for external power. I have no complaints about that design decision.
One upside about BP-U is that it serves as an redundant power source that allows you to hot swap external power source if needed, whether that is AC power, V mount, or gold mount, as long as you have a lemo cable to plug into the camera.
@@frankfeng2701 Absolutely.
yeah i agree actually.
Sorry sony users no AF here. You started off by saying not specific and then contradicted yourself by saying why it didn't have specific things. Ie, You cant put a camera with a V mount on a gimble quickly where as BP battery can be converted to V mount with ease. Perfect compromise. Having A locking EF mount is next level and far more professional than the photo based mount.
depends on the camera. i have mounted my red komodo x and fx6 on gimbals with v-mount battery
totally agree!
But isn’t it better to have the option to choose between lighter batteries or vmount?
If the camera came with the vmount plate built in, then you would be stucked with that
@@diegocasares6968 yes. I think you’re right. The red Komodo x locks you into a vmount or gold mount. This is similar to the fx6 which gives you the option to stick to bpu or vmount aftermarket
@@diegocasares6968 100%
For what it is. It packs a lot of great features for the camera being in the 3K price range. Besides B-RAW is an incredible codec
yooo im first, love ur videos
You rock! thanks
Pretty good analysis of the Pyxis. The only point you made that was incorrect was the 14 stops of dynamic range. 99% of camera manufacturers will lie/embellish their camera dynamic range through various methods, cheeky I know but who will check!
Blackmagic and Arri are the only manufacturers that post the "actual" real life dynamic ranges of their chips, not a boosted ideal condition lab-test results. So when Blackmagic say 13.7 (14) stops you can bet its much more than the FX6 or any other camera that's stating 15-16 stops.
the 14stops of dynamic range is "claimed" stops by BlackMagic. The information is not incorrect rather not transferrable to real world as we have seen with every camera manufacturer.
great video. next I recommend a chiller audio backdrop, was pretty distracting to have these epic/dramatic trumpets
Si glad they listened to the box mods. Not a fan of the sensors but a great step forward other than no ND
massive step forwards
For me, only thing i would have love is the internal ND, others flaws I can work with. this camera will rock in control environment, i.e interview, I will hang with Lumix S5mk2X as my choice and see if this will come with features cant be ignore for upgrade. for now ill pass on this one.
Agreed, Would have paid extra for internal ND's (and maybe just a flip screen? What??) . Has the form factor but disappointed that they didn't include internal ND's and flip screen. Been an URSA owner in the past, and the image quality was phenomenal and really appreciated the internal ND's. The fact they've repackaged the 6K Pocket and failed to include internal ND's whilst in a 'run and gun' form factor genuinely surprises me. Seems like they almost get there yet miss the mark over and over. Don't get me wrong, they'll no doubt sell many at this price point either wat and Blackmagic are a phenomenal company with incredible products and of course colour science, to me they just missed the mark by a smidge on this, and even if slightly more expensive, I reckon they would have sold a bucket load more if this camera. If it had the Canon C400 feature set, and even was similar in price, I'd be in. Right now, C400 is what I'm looking at next though, especially with the 24-105 f.28 lens. (Another brand shift for me from Sony! Oh dear! lol!) PS Expensive hobby this GAS problem. Still though, that image quality from Blackmagic is so Arri like at a fraction of the cost. Hats off to Blackmagic for bringing filmic image quality on a budget yet again, just disappointed it was not enough for me to pull the trigger. (Disclaimer: My thoughts are my thoughts only and in no way are definitive or correct. Every one will have different opinions. These are just mine)
Definitely was hoping for AF and a flip out screen
Makes run and gun more easier.
Otherwise really nailed it overall.
Since this camera uses the same sensor as the BMPCC CINE, you can derive the image quality from it. So only the form factor is new.
The best new film box! I will switch to it now.
So you basically want a 15000$ camera at a price of 3000$😅? It's just a box design Blackmagic 6k FF and it's for my part all that I wanted. And for the batteries used, I think it's a good decision, because it makes it much more modular (gimbal > fully rigged). About the screen, it doesn't bother me at all, because I always use an external monitor anyway. And when you talk about the 13 stops, it's basically the same as the Blackmagic 6k FF, and I'm always impressed by the image coming from this camera. It's even better than a FX3/FX6 when we talk about highlight rolloff (not as good in the shadows area tho). But yes if you really want to complain, sure it's not the perfect camera, but did you really hope having the perfect camera for that cheap?
tons of these so-called 'cinematographer' youtubers are just overhyping on this camera. basically it's just a 'rehoused' 6k full-frame cinema pocket with SDI port. that's it nothing more special. i can bet, they'll come out with 'pro' version with internal NDs, just like what they did with their 'Pro' cinema pocket. so why bother with this version when you know after a year or so, the 'Pro' version will come out.
Exactly. Im just mindblown at how this video hypes up the price as if its groundbreaking. And comparing it to RED box cameras that'd all cost 3x more due to the sensor, not just the form factor, is confusing. Do people really value a box form that much? Is it supposed to be 1,000+ dollars simply to make a camera in a box with SDI? Its so bizarre given most people interested have absolutely 0 neccessity for it.
They've made a great entry with this form-factor. Everyone's been clamoring for it for years. I read that they probably won't be able to get internal NDs in because of the sensor size but damn wouldn't it be nice? Side screen doesn't bother me. This cam is built for making movies and your 1AC should be pulling focus on a hi-res external anyway. Either way, whatever else Blackmagic brings to the table in the next version, they'll still be knocking the competition's dix in at their ridiculously tasty price point.
3:42 that was also a big deal regarding the battery yesterday when I spoke with them at the booth. All their cameras have been horrible at battery life without a V or Gold Mount. But they said you can get three hours with just one battery that’s amazing.
That is 3 hours with the very largest battery... that sucker would stick way out of the back.
Another Sony baby🤣🤣 The RUclips is full with you guys at the moment!
@@hanna_m_issa is that OK? Or did it upset you too much?
@@wayneberry3453 what do you think?
@JasonMorrisphotocinema is a nice guy and quite objective but true, he is just too much into mirrorless and video cameras (specially Sony), and coming from Australia I don't get that he is not fan of Blackmagic. If I were Grant Petty I should send him a Pyxis for free so he will be able to try it and discover by himself the magic of that FF sensor in Braw recording and the BM color science.
I want one like but in honesty i don’t have the use case haha
For that price on a cinema camera is dope 🔥🔥🔥🔥
It looks pretty good to me! Especially the price.
9:48 One of the Blackmagic folks told me yesterday that many were asking for a pocket Cinema camera in a box style body with SDI and they did that for $2999.00. It is pretty sweet.
As for the EVF. I was extremely impressed that for $1695. You can have an EVF that I can say competes with the likes of the best of them. It was excellent to see it on this camera as well as the Ursa Cine with a locking usbc connection
Damn, seems like after all these years the FX3 and FX6 are still the best bang for the buck, while the FX6 is slightly better for news and generally fast pace stuff and the FX3 being slightly better for more cinema or commercial kind of stuff, while both easily can do the other ones job. Sonys color science just isnt all the best. But if you are new to the market, even with all their downsides and upsides - Sonys FX3 and FX6 are probably the best choices. I dont mention the FX9 here - because its honestly a very neiche choice since its the only one in the FX3, FX6 and FX9 lineup that supports interlaced scanning, which definitely only matters if you are broadcasting live. Its perfectly fine to record in progressive for TV purposes. Recording in interlaced is really only a feature worth mentioning when broadcasting live on TV, depending on what devices you are using to do that production. You could argue that the FX9 has a couple more buttons than the FX6 and more funtional weight, but those can be also added in a rig. Also, a FX9 cannot be used on a typical gimbal. The FX6 can kinda do it, but you wont have audio, the FX3 has no compromises on a gimbal, which is why I'd prefer it unless you exactly know what feature you 100% need from the FX6, such as the integrated non polarizing variable ND-filters (these screw on Vario-NDs are funny toys but definitely not viable for serious work because they unwillingly change your reflections. Whenever you use a polarizing filter in a serious manner - it cannot be more than one at a time. If your rig has 2 or more polarizing filters anywhere infront of your cameras sensor or film, its a toy in 99.9999999% of use cases). If you have time on your hands, the FX3 is the best bang for the buck camera. Fun fact, the FX3 also has the highest resolution recording capabilities. While the FX6 and FX9 offer 4K DCI (4096x2160, 17:9) at 60p 16 bit RAW over SDI, the FX3 offers a slightly higher res 4.2K DCI (4264x2408, 17:9) at 60p and also has quicker slomo capabilities. So if your shoots offer you time to fiddle with ND-filters (there are also magnetic ones these days), the FX3 is the best bang for the buck on the Sony side.
Its really a bummer, Blackmagic didnt give us any integrated ND filters at all. Thats a deal breaker. The FX3 may also not have ones, but therefore it offers a MUCH smaller form factor for example. And this camera is already like 3 years old.
So hilariously, the dynamic range of 14 stops that ARRI claimed on Alexa mini just destroyed the 15 +stops on fX3.
Hope the DR of this 13stops is as conservative as ARRI.
when we see the lab tests is won't be great. it certainly is a work around
There seems to be so much confusion around DR. I own an F55, you’ve seen that as A cam on Insidious 3, Deliver is from evil, and the ENTIRE series of the Blacklist. Sony rates the F55 at 14 stops, its actual is about 11. So tell me what you think you need 15+ stops for? I’d love to hear it as the F55 that I shoot with has been proven, time and time again.
@@kamikaze1213 you’re right. Dynamic range doesn’t mean squat when there is story involved. It does almost nothing to enhance a story. When lit correctly dynamic range is nullified due to more even range
Can’t wait to see what the actual effective dynamic range is, they advertise 13 stops so… maybe 11.5?
Its the same as the BMCC 6k FF…
@@JS_Leger so 11.6 effective stops.
I was not far off ahah
It's literally the same sensor as the FF so dynamic range is the same. Which btw is insanely good for $3K.
Don't agree with his not impressive DR comment all - if someone can't get a great looking shot with a recent BM camera the problem is not the camera lol.
@@hivetech4903 Its ok, but its not "insanely good" dynamic range when 1,900 dollar hybrid cameras have better DR. S5ii has around half a stop or more on it, and Sony at 2,500 does as well. It's objectively below average DR for 3,000 dollars, while the box cam form is where the value is. It almost couldnt be LOWER of a DR and still be sellable. I think some Canon cameras with log limitations and the Sigma FP might be the only 2 full frame modern cameras with worse DR.
Look at the Arri Alexa SXT Plus specs and the specs of this 6K FF sensor. I was going to buy a used Alexa SXT that is 8 years old with similar options like 6:5 anamorphic, open gate 3:2. Etc etc. Priced at 11,900 euros exc VAT, then I see this bargain at $5400 AU body only. EVF not included. Now I can afford something decent and fly it on gimbals,steadicam without taking out a huge loan 💸
I've wanted an Fx6 for a year now but the price has been hindering the process. This Pyxis has me ticking....I think filmmaking has gotten lazier & everyone wants to get their hands on 15+ stops, internal ND's yada yada. Although it enhances the process it shouldn't change it..You still have to understand your lighting & put a ton of thought into your setup and the outcome it conveys to your story. For the price, this camera will benefit amateurs exponentially. For people wanting to compete in terms of imagery & price point, this takes the cake. For bigger players I could see this being used as a B cam to the Arri or Komodo & overall I like that BM moved to the Box design. I shoot on the S5 and the L mount option would be a massive help to my existing lineup. Would love to see a comparison of the Fx6 and Pyxis when you get your hands on it, Jason. Thanks for this video!
I would go with "hands on experience" in front with black magic cameras, before buying them. Low price shouldnt be only reason to buy it, because usability comes as challenge when you got the camera.
I got bmc 6k G2, which was partly error bought by me, because Im more into run and gun cameras with weather sealing etc., so this camera was bit of disappointment for me because of some flaws in design and lack of continuous autofocus. Also with this model, there is air intake holes bottom of camera, which is problem for me if I take videos in nature (dirt, insects etc. might enter camera)
If you need camera only for studio like environments and have money to buy more gear to rig it, then black magic cameras might be for you (But still I say, get hands on experience with usability to know cons/challenges and know that BRAW gonna take lot of hard drive space depending on data ratio).
If I would buy camera costing under 3k now, I would likely go with Sony, possibly panasonic for more "hybrid situations" as solo shooter, simply to have my gear to be lighter, easier to pack and have IBIS and continuos autofocus for certain scenarios.
As a dedicated Blackmagic camera user for years (I own the original 1080p Pocket, 4k Pocket, Ursa Mini Pro 4.6k G1, Ursa Mini Pro 4.6 G2) I have never experienced any of your problems. My Ursa's have been subjected to harsh conditions and handled it like a champ. BRAW is one of the most data friendly RAW formats out there. Especially when the menu gives you compression options. NOBODY buys ANY Blackmagic camera for autofocus. But most importantly, why would anyone take advice from someone that "accidentally" buys a camera?
@@305kubrick did you read with tough and out from your experience what I described in my message?
Well presented vid Jason. My thoughts: A Canon R5C isn't that much more expensive than this camera and it can do a lot of stuff the PYXIS won't. I think BM kinda phoned this one in.
Other than photo/af what can it do?
@@InventiveImagery it can mind its own fvcking business. That's what!
difference is that the R5C has a more 'video' look and BM 6K FF has a more 'filmic' look, much more depth to the image with the BM
If it comes with a gopro mount and a selfie stick I am in!
This version very nice
I think evf is not useful for documentaries... If you film on gimbal or need to be film run and gun style that's not possible... I think their screen position is a nonsens... It kills this amazing camera.. Mini xlr... Dynamic range is short.... Actually I have the feeling they did all these to encourage people to buy her new big sister which is 15000 usd
Real-world DR will most certainly not be "short", BM is just conservative/accurate when they publish DR figures. This camera uses the same sensor as the 6KCC, S5ii and many other cameras. It has great DR.
@@colinthomas2525the A7IV has surprisingly high DR lol
the URSA cine is very interesting but like you said 15000USD. That's certainly not pocket change like the Pyxis
@@simplyheen1150 yeah. I have one and I think it is very underrated like Fx3. You can have outstanding videos with it. Actually I saw a lot comparaison with Red Komodo and the video quality and color presented never match what I get with mine. Further more people always forget that the alpha 7 IV 4k is a downsampled 7K which is much more than 6k...and when people say that's useless cause many TV still broadcast in HD that's wrong... An image filmed in 4k converted into HD will still be much more detailed than a video shoot in HD...
@@nathanaelselig8595 Not sure whether I heard of the FX3 being underrated, but yeah the A7IV is rather impressive.
In my opinion, the new black magic camera has a lot of good features for the price. But ZCAM is a better price for features camera.. I can spend $3000 and get a 6K full frame camera from them as well. And I shoot with a couple different types of ZCAM and these suckers are bulletproof from my experience. I do appreciate what black magic does for everything and what they’re doing with the 12 K camera more than this one.
To answer all your questions it’s all about cost $3000 for the quality there’s gotta be sacrifices
How do y’all manage storage with these cameras? To record a hour of footage in the highest raw codec, it will be around a terabyte. Do you only use external drives and plug via a USB-C?
I'm going External monitor and call it a day, the Internal ND filters is coming 6 months to a year later, that's ALL Camera companies' philosophy, give the Customer SOME of the features but not ALL OF THE FEATURES in one swoop, everything will be delivered over time, they don't mind a customer's frustration.
While the price is the main draw, what its missing is glaring. Those hyping it up without experiencing it on a paid shoot may find themselves regrettably coming back down to Earth. I believe DM will take the tempeture of this offering and use the feedback to create the future Pyxes Pro that should have build in ND, shoot in ProRes, 14 stop range, 4K at 60 or even 120fps and 14 and maybe even 16 bit internal recording. With those upgrades, those hyping up the price of the Pyxis will also hype up a $4K to $5K price.
Realistic 15 stops DR is Alexa35 equivalent. And the PYXIS already shoots at 6K120 so I ain't too sure what you're heading about.
@@colinthomas2525 ah shit I was looking at the Ursa Cine page, my bad.
I really don't get why people keep mentioning the screen. Everybody wanted a box style camera so they can build a cinema rig. If you want the screen on the back stick with a mirrorless body.
How much does rolling shutter affect anamorphic footage? I know the BM Cinema FF
6k camera released last year has 25 mil seconds of rolling shutter at open gate 6k... Not the greatest for run and gun, so l'm just curious if that will make 2x anamorphic footage usable on this camera since it shares the same sensor technology. What do you think?
rolling shutter is pretty bad for anamorphic lenses but that is only in those specific situations with fast pace moving subjects
Yall ask for alot!! And this is actually a great camera for a very affordable price... ull cry bout monitors etc....
I don't understand why they make a screen on the side instead of making a flip screen. Black magic always problems with something battery, screen, etc…
Head-scratcher… no internal ND / Not global shutter / weird choices.. also v-mount is popular only in europe us tends to use gold mount
sony needs to make the mark 2 fx6 now
Is there a way to use Sony lenses on this camera and still be able to have AF?
no. Can only get the L or EF version for auto focus
Nice job Blackmagic on the side glued screen that the operator can't see. Wow! now I can finally shoot 120fps in FULL HD. What an upgrade for 2024! Who needs 4k 120 FPS? No one. And that 13 Stops Dynamic Range is why evryone should buy this. Who needs 14 stops? No one.
You can tell who is a cinematographer vs a videographer by how they describe this camera.
this is a cinema cam not a videography thats why my friend. in cinema you always rig your camera. this cam is perfect for us.
Yeah cause you’re definitely making “cInEmA.”
Getting pretty tired of the amount of misinformation and contrarian complaints coming out about this camera. The camera doesn’t haven’t a low amount of DR, it’s a competitive amount. BM markets 13 stops as that’s the clean number of stops, Sony markets “15” but that’s the total number of stops not the clean stops which when tested is about 13 stop or just shy of it. You don’t need to wait until the Pyxis comes out to see this, just look at footage from the BMCC6k… it’s the same sensor.
What’s with all this complaining about the side screen??? Box style cameras traditionally don’t come with a screen at all, the FX6 doesn’t have a screen on the body at all, RED until very recently didn’t have screens at all and the ones they added are pretty much meant for quick adjustments and settings… just like the Pyxis. Everyone was going to run a monitor on top anyway, let’s not pretend we weren’t and it’s better that screen is on there than not at all.
The Sony battery, just like the fx6, is there so you can build the camera up and down for gimbal use. You will be able to get a mount attachment just like the fx6 for when you’re running handheld or on sticks. It gives you flexibility in the size of the camera.
The 2 complaints I do agree with that is fair is the lack of internal NDs. Not a big deal but would have been nice to have. And the rolling shutter performance is definitely a fair concern which is just a result of where we are in the industry at this point.
However, it’s all a bit nullified by the price point, there is no other camera at this price offering internal compressed raw in a box style camera. So while the fx6, Komodo or c70 have advantages, they all cost double or more than double. You can’t have everything at half the cost 🤷♂️
I feel like the BM pyx is better than the burano. Autofocus is the only place the burano wins.
for 3k you do Not get a lot, you get an expensive starting point.
That’s with any camera. You have to buy rigging equipment, external monitor, etc, for most cameras.
What camera offers more or as much as this for $3k?
@@Eyeofkamau fx 30, pocket 6k,lumix , ect...
@@Eyeofkamau it's the same camera as the pocket 6k, with less feature, even took out pro res, but cost more for it's boxy form.
fx30 : built in mic, auto focus, better ISO..
think it's about 1600
buying the EVA that they are showcasing on the camera is like 1700..
so trying to use the camera as is, you a least to buy a len, if don't already have one.
need memory, batteries, a mic, and monitor, if u don't mind looking sideways view the recording.
3k just turned to 4k - 6k
@@jmac2050 it’s FF, so it’s the same camera as the BMCC6k, not the pocket6k.
The cameras you listed aren’t coming close to this for proper production work.
No one is using a built-in mic for audio, AF is rarelyever used in production, and better ISO? What does that mean? The systems use two different ISO scales. If you’re talking about lowlight, that is irrelevant given you’re in control of lighting.
You’re talking about buying memory, a mic, lens, batteries and a monitor? Again, that’s with any camera lol.
There is not a single camera on the market you can buy without having to spend 100s to 1000s more to built it out - unless you purchase it with a kit.
@@Eyeofkamau go for it
& why does the camera only shoot raw?
How’s the autofocus?
I think the design is way too bloated because of the screen. It's way too big for having essentially the guts of a BMPCC 6k. They should have ditched the inbuild screen to make it way smaller and shipped it with a stripped down Video Assist that could navigate the menus when connected (could use that front USB-C port). With all the box camera options out there now that are much more compact, with autofocus, I'm not sure the slight color science and codec advantage is enough to overlook the poor ergonomics. If I were doing gimbal work, I would take a Panasonic Lumix BS1H and a video assist any day over the Pyxis, and I would still get my Blackmagic Raw, and that camera has been out for several years now. Maybe for shoulder rigging the pyxis would be good, but I feel like they really missed the ball on this one. Their new Cine 12K however, now that is indeed ground breaking and incredible
Can u use this with DJI RS3 thx
ita 12 bit raw, the fx6 isnt!! the image quality will be drastically different.
Anyone know anything about this cameras Auto focus? Thanks in advance!
I'm sure v2 will have a flip out screen
go for 12k pro new one solve all problems
no internal ND looks like FX6 for me
What is camera name i don't know
@@AliezA_0 pyxis
the camera is a bit average tbh
It’s also $2995…
why you say that? curious
@@JasonMorrisphotocinema same as the pocket 6k and offers no real new features to switch systems for. If you own the fx3 or fx6 keep them and invest your money instead of getting in the trap of new gear. Not saying you do this Josh but a lot of youtubers these days are just sales reps like that kofi guy switching systems every 6 months
Does it have internal ND/s?
Don't worry a PRO version is on the way!!
Blackmagic PYXIS 6k is the most deceiving-looking camera of all time. it looks so professional and sturdy with all mounting points but it doesn't even have the basic features that professionals need. This camera is for amateurs and enthusiasts.
If they put all these stuff you are saying in the camera it would become a Ursa Mini.
I think there's some people, you included, who should stick to filming things instead of making videos like this.
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Sorry mate you cannot fault a 2999 value camera to have all the stuff you are complaining is missing! Just be grateful that Blackmagic made your FX6 obsolete, maybe you can upgrade to the 12k model instead.
Global shutter and its a wrap. Sony and RED still wins. The image still doesn't stand out from the pack
it is a step in the right direction i believe at aleast
What are you talking about??? The images out of any Blackmagic camera in recent years are fantastic!
@@305kubrick brother if you lined up 6 4k cameras and BM was in the pack you're not pointing out the BM image. You can choose the best from your eye test and BM wouldn't be the one you chose I bet. There's a reason they sell cheap
@@henrywatts6533 you mean the company that owns and develops the worlds best color grading software doesn’t know how to translate that color technology into their own cameras? Ok. 👍🏻
@@305kubrick DaVinci resolve is great, yes and there are a tons of ppl who you Adobe and Final Cut, and Hollywod loves Avid. Again, you place any Blackmagic camera on a table with any Arri, any Dragon, any Venice and the Blackmagic 12k will be sitting there. There is a reason the 12k started out $10k already cheap and now you can get it for $4k. Where are you going to find an 8k RED for $4k? The Epic Mx are still out there for $4k.
Whoever designed this needs to be fired. They designed it to not have a vmount battery? Like what lol.
This camera is for everyone and no one. Just make it a bit bulkier to make the screen flip and put some ND and sell it for under 3500. I mean, when you reach the 3k price tag your target market can alllow itself to put 400 bucks more for a true new camera. Pussy move.
Be careful Komodo is 16bit RAW this is only 12bit.
yes correct
Not a noticeable difference visually and for post.
@@305kubrick also correct. I did a side by side with my Komodo x and FX6 and both graded super similar
NOT SELLING MY FX6
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no built in ND filters 👎
So you put your eye into the viewfinder and you smash the one side of your face into the side monitor. The oils of your face smearing the monitor. Oh brother !
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