@@nehemiahpouncey3607 it feels like a 3D version of wrestlefest with some quick time events added because that was the thing during that era of gaming. You have 3 stages of moves like wrestlefest, can't hit a finisher until you fill stage 3. It's exactly what they were going for and it went over everyone's heads.
I was thinking this too but they add dozens of legends in the form of DLC. It would be cool if it was a straight up legends/retro style game and less simulation based.
The one of the main things I liked about Legends of Wrestlemania was being able to import the SVR 09 roster. Granted it was at the expense of legends being playable in SVR 09.
It honestly wouldn’t shock me if they made the controls so simple to try and appeal to the older demographic of who are more familiar with the people in the game
The biggest issue with the game was weird roster inclusions and omissions (Michael Hayes is in and had nothing to do with Wrestlemania but the 09 DLC legends are missing) and a massive lack of move animations. You literally can't have Macho Man's elbow drop as a finisher.
Michael Hayes did actually appear at Wrestlemania Seventeen in the Gimmick Battle Royal. It was his only appearance at a Wrestlemania,but it still counts.
I forgot Hayes was in this until I saw him in this video. Not saying he isn't a legend in his own right, but I don't think of him when I think of WWF legends
I really wish they would remake this game. The game had great character models. Take 2k and add all these legends (but also add more attires). Add in way more legends. Add AWA, NWA/WCW, WCCW, ECW. The would have to change the name. But remake the relive, rewrite, redefine concept. Make it if single matches or a season style as if you change history it changes futures matches as well. Add in more areanas as every ppvs in the history of all the feds i have listed. Also in creation suit make all caws have 4 attires and 500 caw slots. I know i am just dreaming.
Royal Rumble bugged me in particular due to how limited the entrance animations were. Wrestlers either ran into the ring with their necks stretched out like giraffes or grabbed their wrists as they walked to the ring as if it was a trip to human resources. And then the mechanics of the match were somehow even more dumbed down from what was used at the time of SmackDown vs. RAW, which was getting a guy to the ropes and spamming buttons to toss him out, but instead you did a quick minigame to knock them out of the ring.
What I hated the most about this game, is the fact that it existed. What I mean by that, is we always had legends in previous games ( '08 for example had Austin, Rock, Rude, and Piper. '07 had even more, with Bam Bam, Dusty, the 3 faces of Foley, Eddie, Perfect... ) . But in '09 however, they had removed all the legends on purpose, just to sale us Legends Of WrestleMania. It felt like a disgusting commercial tactic to me back then, and still does. They knew people would be so disappointed to not have Legends, that they were gonna buy this one to have them back. The fact we could import the SvR '09 characters into Legends Of WM made it even worse, for me, as it was basically sending the message " You can either buy just '09 and have only the current stars, or buy only Legends Of WM and have only legends. If you want the full roster, current stars and legends all combined into one game like it always had been before, you must buy 2 games instead of 1 and import the SvR '09 roster into Legends Of WM. " . They were making clear why they had removed all the legends for SvR '09, it was to split what was supposed to be the SvR '09 roster, in 2 games. The problem with doing this import, is that we had to endure the gameplay of Legends Of WM to be able to play with the " full " roster, when it would've been a lot better to get all these legends into SvR '09 instead, since the gameplay was way better. I hope there will never be another Legends Of WM, 'cause I want to be able to keep the current stars and legends all together into one game. Don't want no separate stuff. What I would like however, is a non-WWE game about legends ( kinda like the good ol' days of Legends Of Wrestling ) so that we can have a game where the devs don't have to deal with either or not these guys are under a WWE legends contract. With a roster of like 100 guys ( or more if possible ) from the 1950s to the 2000s, regardless of which companies they were in. Now that would be awesome. Well, of course, the gameplay would need to be good too, but I'm just talking from a roster perspective here. About Legends of WM itself now, yeah the gameplay wasn't good, too minimalist. That being said, it has been the case of every WWE games released since the X360 era. Games outside of the main series, had very minimalist gameplay ( Legends of WM, WWE All Stars, and 2K Battlegrounds ) , that's why I didn't like any of these games. People keep asking for the return of the SD HCTP and SD SYM gameplay to return, but nope, they keep going with either the current gameplay, or when they do something else, it's a very minimalist gameplay like those 3 games. It's like they're avoiding what people are asking for, on purpose, at this point. The crazy part is that, the Relive mode of Legends of WM is still present in current games. It's exactly what Showcase mode is... The negatives pointed out about Relive in Legends Of WM in the video, is exactly why I've always hated the concept of Showcase. Very restrictive/scripted mode to only be played once to unlock the characters and arenas and stuff, and that's it, never touch it again. What a waste of time for the dev on a mode as uninteresting ( due to its restrictive nature ) as this. This time and effort could be put into Universe and GM modes instead, who desperately need a lot more love, because it's these 2 modes that keeps us coming back to the game the whole year. 2K had removed Showcase with 2K17 which was great news as they would finally focus on other modes instead of wasting a lot of time and effort into this mode. But people whined about it and wanted it back, so they brought it back, and people celebrated it. And now, people have been complaining about how restrictive and uninteresting this mode is, for a year or 2. Well yeah, duh, it's been the concept of this mode since day one... Another mode who is highly restrictive/scripted, and therefore uninteresting, and that I hope will never come back, is Road To WM. Yet people keep asking for it to be back... If 2K does bring it back at some point, watch those same people complain about this mode being too restrictive and scripted, when it had been the concept of this mode since day one... Relive/Showcase and Road To WM is literally the same thing, the only difference is that the first one is based on real WWE history, and RTWM is a fictional story. But when it comes to how those modes works, they are literally the exact same.
i apricate people talking about non 2k wrestling games but there's really not enough here for 10 minutes, the critique becomes redundant and repetitive much like the game about four minutes in, and i don't know anything more about how it was made then i did before
Why would WWE want to release a Legends game and make it a copy and paste of SvR 2009 that makes zero sense Tony also WWE All Stars was very bareboned with not alot of game modes for you to play
Me and my friends played this alot I love arcade style over the boring simulation style plus we could import characters from svr 2009 so cool Andre and Big Show tag team champions if you have a great creative mindset you will enjoy it
I disagree when you say it wasn't a terrible game It was and all your cons are correct. Yes it was a good concept but a good concept doesn't make a game good, or save it from being terrible if it is, and this one is
I had such high hopes for this game, but when they started talking about simplified controls and smaller move sets, I became concerned. I still figured it would turn out fine, so I bought it. I did have fun with it for a while, but it's limitations compared to SvR kept me from coming back to it more than a few times. Thankfully, WWE 2k14 ended up becoming the game that Legends of WrestleMania should have been.
I still don’t get why Michael Hayes was in this game even though he’s never wrestled at WrestleMania I know he’s like a producer at this point in WWE, but it still doesn’t make sense to include him
I just realized that mankind wasn't this game despite having the ability to recreate the taker vs mankind hell in a cell match
I believe he was in TNA at the time
@@Superbox647-o5q not to mention Randy savage last time endorsing a game.
@@Superbox647-o5q apparently they didn't wanna start from scratch they just used the SVR 2009 engine and said done.
That was WWE ALL Stars on 2011. Macho Man is not in this game sadly.@nehemiahpouncey3607
Macho man never did a cell match so why would he @@83jdc1
The main issue I had was the wacky controls
Same
@@Wicallz420 they were endorsing the
Hell out of this.😂
Even getting Legends (who were alive
At the time)to go with it.
The controls weren't wacky. It has arcade controls and I enjoyed it more than SVR 09 & 10. It's one of the few WWE games I go back to on my PS3.
@@michaelsoto8490 guessing they wanted to get that arcadey feel.
@@nehemiahpouncey3607 it feels like a 3D version of wrestlefest with some quick time events added because that was the thing during that era of gaming. You have 3 stages of moves like wrestlefest, can't hit a finisher until you fill stage 3. It's exactly what they were going for and it went over everyone's heads.
I actually loved the controls. It was awesome having wrestling sequences that simulated actual chain wrestling.
I'm honestly shocked that 2K games hasn't made a proper Legends of WrestleMania game
We already have dlc And showcase plus you guys complain
Bro you're everywhere Jesus 💀@@nevermindgaming6848
I was thinking this too but they add dozens of legends in the form of DLC. It would be cool if it was a straight up legends/retro style game and less simulation based.
we need more games not dlcs
There's no point given how the original flopped and we can just play as legends in legendary arenas in 2K24 anyway
At this point with all these legends contract. 2K needs to start adding more legends like they do with the NBA games
The one of the main things I liked about Legends of Wrestlemania was being able to import the SVR 09 roster. Granted it was at the expense of legends being playable in SVR 09.
You should bring back “Frag out” in your outro. Loving the classic game content, nice to see you back making content regularly!
It honestly wouldn’t shock me if they made the controls so simple to try and appeal to the older demographic of who are more familiar with the people in the game
Yeah that's what I was thinking too. And that makes sense. The controls were the least of the problems with this game.
Never played a 2k or thq wrestling game before playing this. And as a 80s baby, i absolutely LOVED this game 😎
The biggest issue with the game was weird roster inclusions and omissions (Michael Hayes is in and had nothing to do with Wrestlemania but the 09 DLC legends are missing) and a massive lack of move animations. You literally can't have Macho Man's elbow drop as a finisher.
Michael Hayes did actually appear at Wrestlemania Seventeen in the Gimmick Battle Royal. It was his only appearance at a Wrestlemania,but it still counts.
No other Freebirds in this game?
No Von Erichs?
@@syahminorizan8064 Just Michael Hayes and with a cheap cover theme and not the real Badstreet USA.
I forgot Hayes was in this until I saw him in this video. Not saying he isn't a legend in his own right, but I don't think of him when I think of WWF legends
Legends of Wrestlemania was cool, but it was no Legends of Wrestling
I really wish they would remake this game. The game had great character models. Take 2k and add all these legends (but also add more attires). Add in way more legends. Add AWA, NWA/WCW, WCCW, ECW. The would have to change the name. But remake the relive, rewrite, redefine concept. Make it if single matches or a season style as if you change history it changes futures matches as well. Add in more areanas as every ppvs in the history of all the feds i have listed. Also in creation suit make all caws have 4 attires and 500 caw slots. I know i am just dreaming.
Royal Rumble bugged me in particular due to how limited the entrance animations were. Wrestlers either ran into the ring with their necks stretched out like giraffes or grabbed their wrists as they walked to the ring as if it was a trip to human resources. And then the mechanics of the match were somehow even more dumbed down from what was used at the time of SmackDown vs. RAW, which was getting a guy to the ropes and spamming buttons to toss him out, but instead you did a quick minigame to knock them out of the ring.
I was 11/12 when this came out and loved it for some reason.
Honestly it would’ve worked if it had the same gameplay as the SVR series
What I hated the most about this game, is the fact that it existed. What I mean by that, is we always had legends in previous games ( '08 for example had Austin, Rock, Rude, and Piper. '07 had even more, with Bam Bam, Dusty, the 3 faces of Foley, Eddie, Perfect... ) . But in '09 however, they had removed all the legends on purpose, just to sale us Legends Of WrestleMania. It felt like a disgusting commercial tactic to me back then, and still does. They knew people would be so disappointed to not have Legends, that they were gonna buy this one to have them back.
The fact we could import the SvR '09 characters into Legends Of WM made it even worse, for me, as it was basically sending the message " You can either buy just '09 and have only the current stars, or buy only Legends Of WM and have only legends. If you want the full roster, current stars and legends all combined into one game like it always had been before, you must buy 2 games instead of 1 and import the SvR '09 roster into Legends Of WM. " . They were making clear why they had removed all the legends for SvR '09, it was to split what was supposed to be the SvR '09 roster, in 2 games.
The problem with doing this import, is that we had to endure the gameplay of Legends Of WM to be able to play with the " full " roster, when it would've been a lot better to get all these legends into SvR '09 instead, since the gameplay was way better.
I hope there will never be another Legends Of WM, 'cause I want to be able to keep the current stars and legends all together into one game. Don't want no separate stuff. What I would like however, is a non-WWE game about legends ( kinda like the good ol' days of Legends Of Wrestling ) so that we can have a game where the devs don't have to deal with either or not these guys are under a WWE legends contract. With a roster of like 100 guys ( or more if possible ) from the 1950s to the 2000s, regardless of which companies they were in. Now that would be awesome. Well, of course, the gameplay would need to be good too, but I'm just talking from a roster perspective here.
About Legends of WM itself now, yeah the gameplay wasn't good, too minimalist. That being said, it has been the case of every WWE games released since the X360 era. Games outside of the main series, had very minimalist gameplay ( Legends of WM, WWE All Stars, and 2K Battlegrounds ) , that's why I didn't like any of these games. People keep asking for the return of the SD HCTP and SD SYM gameplay to return, but nope, they keep going with either the current gameplay, or when they do something else, it's a very minimalist gameplay like those 3 games. It's like they're avoiding what people are asking for, on purpose, at this point.
The crazy part is that, the Relive mode of Legends of WM is still present in current games. It's exactly what Showcase mode is... The negatives pointed out about Relive in Legends Of WM in the video, is exactly why I've always hated the concept of Showcase. Very restrictive/scripted mode to only be played once to unlock the characters and arenas and stuff, and that's it, never touch it again. What a waste of time for the dev on a mode as uninteresting ( due to its restrictive nature ) as this. This time and effort could be put into Universe and GM modes instead, who desperately need a lot more love, because it's these 2 modes that keeps us coming back to the game the whole year. 2K had removed Showcase with 2K17 which was great news as they would finally focus on other modes instead of wasting a lot of time and effort into this mode. But people whined about it and wanted it back, so they brought it back, and people celebrated it. And now, people have been complaining about how restrictive and uninteresting this mode is, for a year or 2. Well yeah, duh, it's been the concept of this mode since day one...
Another mode who is highly restrictive/scripted, and therefore uninteresting, and that I hope will never come back, is Road To WM. Yet people keep asking for it to be back... If 2K does bring it back at some point, watch those same people complain about this mode being too restrictive and scripted, when it had been the concept of this mode since day one... Relive/Showcase and Road To WM is literally the same thing, the only difference is that the first one is based on real WWE history, and RTWM is a fictional story. But when it comes to how those modes works, they are literally the exact same.
i apricate people talking about non 2k wrestling games but there's really not enough here for 10 minutes, the critique becomes redundant and repetitive much like the game about four minutes in, and i don't know anything more about how it was made then i did before
Why would WWE want to release a Legends game and make it a copy and paste of SvR 2009 that makes zero sense Tony also WWE All Stars was very bareboned with not alot of game modes for you to play
Bro I think you just like Smackdown versus Raw better
They even got the was then surviving
Legends to endorse this.
WTF.
I remember loving this game
I honestly wish they came back with this idea with the massive legends roster they have......combinable roster BOTH ways though.
Tony is cooking [on his channel, lately]
All they had to do was cut and paste the current SvR game at the time and just swap in a legends roster.
legends got it with graphics capturing the wwf of old looked amazing, but that gameplay mechanics was way off..
Me and my friends played this alot I love arcade style over the boring simulation style plus we could import characters from svr 2009 so cool Andre and Big Show tag team champions if you have a great creative mindset you will enjoy it
I was dedicated to beating the storyline time line career mode that was gas
I disagree when you say it wasn't a terrible game
It was and all your cons are correct. Yes it was a good concept but a good concept doesn't make a game good, or save it from being terrible if it is, and this one is
wwe need to remastered wwe legends of wrestlemania for the xbox one and ps4 and xbox series x and ps5
I had such high hopes for this game, but when they started talking about simplified controls and smaller move sets, I became concerned. I still figured it would turn out fine, so I bought it. I did have fun with it for a while, but it's limitations compared to SvR kept me from coming back to it more than a few times. Thankfully, WWE 2k14 ended up becoming the game that Legends of WrestleMania should have been.
Great idea for it's time but not well executed
SvR 2009 roster is pretty bad I don't mind
WWE 12 roster is where revolution
The controls was horrible
I still don’t get why Michael Hayes was in this game even though he’s never wrestled at WrestleMania
I know he’s like a producer at this point in WWE, but it still doesn’t make sense to include him
I mean technically he competed at one Mania. Just not within the first 15
@@nickonitethey had him in the gimmick Battle Royale. You're right.
6:20 2k24 😒😒😒😒
the game was ok i didn't Relly enjoy it
THQ and yukes failed us on this one.
But more yukes tho.
THQ is the publisher. So, it's on Yukes.
@@PontFlair right and now them guy's just did double dragon revive.
Tony you made a minor error. You didn’t have the ability to create your own storylines in SVR 2009. That was a feature introduced in SVR 2010.