I've been with you since the beginning. what's the beginning? you don't say um anymore. it's gonna be fun watching your channel grow, and it will continue bigtime dude. intelligent fun content, thank you for sharing. i always wondered how much the break in made, but no one had the balls to actually test it. was interesting
Any possibility that you might make a video on motor break-in, water vs dry, type of batteries used, speeds used for break-in ETC ETC. A 2mph difference can make a big difference in SPEC racing
Me too! Slap a 10t 550 or a 13t 540 and she's basically brushless power, not to me too. Many touring cars can handle 3s on the stock setup like the tamiya tt-01/2 kits, good ol' tough tamiya electronics handle 3s all day long. Feels like brushless for cheap!
You might have explained what is a water broken motor and how it is done. I've watched this video and enjoyed it but I still don't know what that actually means or how it's done
Fun quick comparison…but if it shortens motor life tho as mark mentioned, I won’t bother unless I got heavy into racing..But if racing would one use brushless? Also after water break motor gets lubed so perhaps stock motor would have been faster if lubed . Fairer comparison to.
Ok dude....I wanna see the speed run of those 1/8 scales.....nitro and electric and the electric on race settings versus MAXED! See there....another good video blog idea! Keep em comin!
@@DieselBadger60 it starts off as back ground music tons MSM video and 4 moths later, it’s part of my play list. There is another song that goes “and I eh, and I eh, and I know I need it” or something like that. Both songs have legs and after a while, you are looking forward to hearing them.
My buddy Erik b following you recommended you to me I had a question by the way I love your shows my question is are you going to do a tenacity for Will Dr., Losi review cuz I’m trying to race it
Back in the day we would buy a bunch of the same motors and Dyno them because the timing and other things would be a little different between them even though they were supposedly the same. To get real world test results you would have to go through more than 2 motors say like 5 broken in and 5 not.
acceleration could be measured by camera frames/distance traveled, shortly after takeoff. stand back like 30' and have visual distance markers. sort it out in your video editing software (which i'm guessing you have access to)
Or if you have the discipline you can do it the fun easy way and just drive the car really slow for the first two pack cycles. BTW, IF you can keep heat down, you can insanely over voltage DC motors at the cost of a shorter life. The insulation on the wire windings can easily take 600V. You do have to watch the RPM due to balance, brushes, bearings and lubrication.
Would have been interesting if you would have just had one motor where you run it or just let it spin out of the water and see what the speed result was on that one. The new motor could have been broken in by just driving the car around at low speeds, or just outside the vehicle running for 20 minutes. Perhaps the speeds would match up?
If you let that new motor run through two batteries with you gradually getting to full speed and not applying the brake at all you'll break in that motor properly. Traxxas recommends gradual acceleration to full speed and letting the car coast instead of braking. I prefer the dry method as it doesn't cause so much brush wear. After the second battery or about a quarter the way through the second battery the motor will have a sudden change in acceleration and top speed. After the second run flush the commutator out with plastic safe contact cleaner and oil the bushings.
Since the 80s.. water break in has been to ARC the brushes into the comm without causing sparks that scar the brushes and leave weld spatter on the comm.. NOT for more power.. ever.. just to properly break it in.
I have a collection of vintage Nikkos. I'm looking to replace the motors in my Turbo Aero and Turbo Cosmos. I found suitable replacements. I'm wondering, should I break those 280s in for power, or just run them as they are for the sake of longevity?
New here man subbed and liked, if you know anyone looking for a like new set of super swampers 40 series on axial 8 spoke beadlocks, I'm selling them for 80 shipping included or trade for two Xmaxx tires and rims
I've been with you since the beginning. what's the beginning? you don't say um anymore. it's gonna be fun watching your channel grow, and it will continue bigtime dude. intelligent fun content, thank you for sharing. i always wondered how much the break in made, but no one had the balls to actually test it. was interesting
Mike G dang... that is the beginning... hahaha.... thanks for watching!
Mike G just got you a subscriber, Mark! haha.
this comment aged very well!
Any possibility that you might make a video on motor break-in, water vs dry, type of batteries used, speeds used for break-in ETC ETC.
A 2mph difference can make a big difference in SPEC racing
How about a motor that's been broken in with plane old running
I like brushed motors better I think. It seems to feel more scale to me. I like scale realism
Me too! Slap a 10t 550 or a 13t 540 and she's basically brushless power, not to me too. Many touring cars can handle 3s on the stock setup like the tamiya tt-01/2 kits, good ol' tough tamiya electronics handle 3s all day long. Feels like brushless for cheap!
@romper4444 nit even close to brushless power but i agree with everything else
You might have explained what is a water broken motor and how it is done. I've watched this video and enjoyed it but I still don't know what that actually means or how it's done
Thats remarkable!
Awesome assistans you have there:0)
Fun quick comparison…but if it shortens motor life tho as mark mentioned, I won’t bother unless I got heavy into racing..But if racing would one use brushless? Also after water break motor gets lubed so perhaps stock motor would have been faster if lubed . Fairer comparison to.
Nice run 👍 👍 👍 👍 👍 👍
Ok dude....I wanna see the speed run of those 1/8 scales.....nitro and electric and the electric on race settings versus MAXED! See there....another good video blog idea! Keep em comin!
uhhh... my electric race cars are always maxed! Race settings? do you limit your esc?
Mark Santa Maria well yea! My e-truggy is only set at about 80%
Titan 12t ou 570 mega est le meilleur?merci
What music is played at 6:10 mark?
Lloyd Elliott I’m so by Andrew Apple pie. Sorry it took 2 weeks
@@DieselBadger60 it starts off as back ground music tons MSM video and 4 moths later, it’s part of my play list.
There is another song that goes “and I eh, and I eh, and I know I need it” or something like that. Both songs have legs and after a while, you are looking forward to hearing them.
Thanks again
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My buddy Erik b following you recommended you to me I had a question by the way I love your shows my question is are you going to do a tenacity for Will Dr., Losi review cuz I’m trying to race it
Back in the day we would buy a bunch of the same motors and Dyno them because the timing and other things would be a little different between them even though they were supposedly the same. To get real world test results you would have to go through more than 2 motors say like 5 broken in and 5 not.
acceleration could be measured by camera frames/distance traveled, shortly after takeoff. stand back like 30' and have visual distance markers. sort it out in your video editing software (which i'm guessing you have access to)
It sounds like it tevved a little higher with the wayer broken in motor and i thought it was a myth . Top video.😁 revved not tevved lol
so the water broken in motor is approx. 9% faster. Not bad!
And in stock racing it can make a huuuuge difference.
rc guy I like rubbing a lot of stock 540s so this is good news!!
Water break in is an old trick I've used back in the 80s, its work well for me back then.👌
Or if you have the discipline you can do it the fun easy way and just drive the car really slow for the first two pack cycles. BTW, IF you can keep heat down, you can insanely over voltage DC motors at the cost of a shorter life. The insulation on the wire windings can easily take 600V. You do have to watch the RPM due to balance, brushes, bearings and lubrication.
Here that video you was looking for
Would have been interesting if you would have just had one motor where you run it or just let it spin out of the water and see what the speed result was on that one. The new motor could have been broken in by just driving the car around at low speeds, or just outside the vehicle running for 20 minutes. Perhaps the speeds would match up?
If you let that new motor run through two batteries with you gradually getting to full speed and not applying the brake at all you'll break in that motor properly. Traxxas recommends gradual acceleration to full speed and letting the car coast instead of braking.
I prefer the dry method as it doesn't cause so much brush wear. After the second battery or about a quarter the way through the second battery the motor will have a sudden change in acceleration and top speed. After the second run flush the commutator out with plastic safe contact cleaner and oil the bushings.
What do you mean by "flush"?
You got to hold the speed gun still you can't follow with it that close that's why you're getting skewed readings
Is it good for you to water break a brushed motor especially a traxxas brushed??
Since the 80s.. water break in has been to ARC the brushes into the comm without causing sparks that scar
the brushes and leave weld spatter on the comm.. NOT for more power.. ever.. just to properly break it in.
I have a collection of vintage Nikkos. I'm looking to replace the motors in my Turbo Aero and Turbo Cosmos. I found suitable replacements. I'm wondering, should I break those 280s in for power, or just run them as they are for the sake of longevity?
Breaking in helps with both power and longevity
Break in by submerging a motor running in water. Principle just like cleaning up a motor thoroughly
Why is he using a titan motor
Because he is
It’s the same motor as a brushed slash
Have you got the kids to stop moving the gun. Awsome to include families
whay brushed instead of brushless?
Because he's car came with a brushed motor?!
Yeah I don't see the point spending $25 on a motor that lasts 10 uses instead of $75 for a velineon that will last years
U mean brushless? So does brushless needs cleaning maintenance etc if run indoors or dusty environment.
Spec racing requires 12t brushed. Many many classes have this limitation.
New here man subbed and liked, if you know anyone looking for a like new set of super swampers 40 series on axial 8 spoke beadlocks, I'm selling them for 80 shipping included or trade for two Xmaxx tires and rims
We're not worried about the hair man, now that mess under your neck.... lol jk.