As a collector, I find this extremely disturbing. Our hobby is becoming big business as opposed to what it should be, a love of our books and an appreciation of the art, artists and writers. My collection is high end, but I cannot spend my time obsessing over spine ticks and blunted corners. I treasure my 9.8 books and would not buy a 9.9 on principle alone. Especially now.
As long as you collect for the joy of the hobby you'll never be disappointed. Just enjoy the history of the characters, story, and what those books means to you :) CGC has gone big corporate on us
So your saying a manufactured artificial scarcity grading system built on a very subjective mirage of grades on the high end is potentially somewhat scamy and can potentially provide survivor benefits to some individuals over others. I'm shocked. Inconceivable. I'm sure they will fix any concerns in due time. In fact you could even say the fix is in.
Great video. Two comments/questions. 1) Remember the amp that goes to "11'" in SPINAL TAP? Comparative grading feels like the precursor of CGC in 5 years creating a new "11" grade like an 11 volume on an amp ("Well, it's 1 louder than 10, see what I mean?" "Yeah, but why don't you just make 10 louder?" "Because we have 11."). 2) Whether or not the Wolverine submission was a collection of existing, cracked-out 9.8s or just someone's never- opened, pristine stack (of which I am sure there are many from the 1980s for similarly notable books), your points about the effects of comparative grading (a potential new business model and impact on values), are spot on, but you didn't really say anything explicit about comparative grading itself. Seems it should be expressly called out as effectively undermining 20 years of non comparative grading, and it may be more problematic than the reholder scandal. (I am now almost entirely focused on Golden Age, where CGC is less compromised. Less.)
I find these videos very thought-provoking and useful. Not the typical run-of-the-mill video. Thanks for thinking outside-the-box when creating videos. I have been very sensitive to current and forecasted census of the books I am now willing to pursue. I am now selling many of my key grails that have higher (and ever increasing) census counts. I would never invest in a 9.9 or 10 right now when prices are inflated because we know more of the same graded books are coming. Too much value risk right now.
Yes. That was an amazing way to make everyone to crack their slabs and submit them again: “You would never know… maybe the next 9.9 is closer than you think”. When everyone has 9.9s, maybe in 20 years they will do the same with 10s lol
I completely agree. They are not grading these by comparison . It's collusion bt certain auction houses or dealers and CGC. There's already precedent of HA being shady and jim halperin shill bidding . And add to that all the WATA games shenanigans. it's a scam
Just another way for cgc to make more money for people to send in their 9.8 books for resub press and grade hoping they get the 9.9 at least. I believe a lot of collectors are going to be disappointed by either getting back their books at 9.8 or lower. 😅
One day CGC will goof big enough or something better will come along and there will be another preference for collectors. Imagine if CGC books get looked at one day the way we all look and think of PGX now??? 😂😂😂😂
I honestly don't understand how they even get it with all the inconsistency of cgc graders. Your grade is in the hands of the one person looking at the books who has a totally different point of view than other people. I sent two of the exact same copy of Wolverine 1 limited. One got a 9.6 and one got a 9.8 and I swear to God looking at them they are the exact same book same condition. That proves to me that cgc is very inconsistent and it really goes with who is doing the grading at the time. How sad for us little collectors so happy about our collections and the books we aquire. Only to get shit on
So if books gwt cracked open sent in raw, would the census also be trash after awhile. I know they want the labels to be sent in with the books but if your going to gamble that big no way your sending in the old labels
It’s also a gamble to not send in the label, because you may end up getting a 9.4 or 9.6. By sending it in at least you mitigate your losses too, but at the same time you can limit yourself in getting the grade bump. It’s a tough call
I did a video, a follow up from last year, where I looked at the top 20 books that had the most 9.8s without any 9.9s, and when I checked this past weekend, still none of them had any 9.9s.
I’m an old dinosaur, but it seems to me that collectors these days are spending more time looking at prices on their phones than they do looking at actual comics. Things have changed a lot, peoples motives seem to be more based on greed and profit. But if thats what makes them happy then God bless!
I think with the cost for many of these books, unless you’re independently wealthy and money is no object, you have to also consider the value and potential future values in your purchasing decisions.
@@AutomaticComics I understand it. It makes sense to hoard those 9.8s and resubmit them if your goal is just to make a profit, but it could also be a little risky. Of course I like to see my collection increase in value, too. But I always did it more for fun. I haven’t been too active in recent years though. I got (most of) the ones I wanted. I do have the Wolverine 1 but I got it back in the 80s and its not super high grade, like those
This is turning into a joke for grading and I'm sure it's still the top people that get all these high grade books who end up having a monopoly on the market anyway. Think it's why I choose to go after more Golden Age stuff now days. Thanks for bringing out this video because I honestly will never watch a comic Tom video so I would know nothing about this lol.
He covers books I don’t tend to watch as much and what’s going on with spec and that kind of thing. So I watch his channel to keep up to date on that side of the market.
great video - another piece of evidence that CGC grades are more arbitrary than anyone wants to accept. Those were all 9.8's... now, they're 9.8's, 9.9's and 10.0. The grades are nonsense. I am not upset - and don't care if this impacts the 9.8 values since I don't buy into the greater fool scheme - and those that do are using their own money, so it's really not my business or concern.
Ah the graders "feeling" on the grade of a book video comes to mind.....pay no attention to the cgc scandals of the last six months. ....whats the saying a sucker is born every minute
Awesome Video !!! - Great Work !! - Thanks for doing that research and compiling the info. I think your conclusions are 100% accurate. Do not trust CGC
I mean... they gotta keep the scam alive somehow after the reholdering thing. If you're still buying slabs well... What can be said at this point? A fool and their money are soon parted.
It’s insane to me that people ever put so much value in the higher grades. All the folks that dropped 10x value for a subjective opinion are to blame. Might as well dip a book in snake oil and tell me it’ll cure blindness.
I personally cap out a comics potential value at a 9.8. I see you additional value for 9.9 or 10, mostly because if you crack any 9.9 or 10 and resubmit it, odds are it will come back a 9.8. CGC has very little grading consistently. Nearly any CGC book will fluctuate up or down a graded over and over again when resubmitted.
I had a feeling this might be happening at around this time after the Giant Sized X-men 9.9 mess. I’ve been telling people, when asked my opinion, that CGC is basically resetting the bar and there will be some correction to come as a result. I won’t go all doom and gloom as CGC isn’t going anywhere, and will still be the gold standard, but in the short term, I would agree it’s very concerning if you own some of these books and intend to sell/buy them anytime soon.
Reminds me of Apple. It was about market share and new customers but when they tapped out on that, it became about products that don't last as long and you can't repair them yourself so revenue was from existing customer purchases. There's a set amount of old books so looks like this is just tapping into previously graded books as a larger source of their revenue. I've never had anything graded. Isn't a % of the FMV a part of the calculation on how much it costs to grade a book? So, if a book goes from a 9.8 to a 9.9 is the grading cost exponentially higher on a book like Wolverine 1?
9.9 shouldn't be rare anyway for recent comics. Older comics have the original paper so those should be impossible to get a 9.9. When they changed the paper quality during the "deluxe " edition. It's harder to damage those books.
This is a first world issue. The major majority in this hobby can't afford 9.9s. This business model in every way supports the big dealers and auction houses which we all know already receive favoritism from cgc. Why any of you does business with this company is beyond me. But it does show your integrity definitely has a price tag.
9.8 's are the new 9.2 's. 9.9's are the new 9.6. That $100,000 10.0 will quickly become $50,000 and so on. The market will price them all accordingly within a year or so. Better make those regrades and flips quick.
and once that happens they will declare bankruptcy and reform a company that charges these idiots to break them out and put them in new "better" cases. These slab buyers are so damb can you blame them for taking advantage?
do you consider the prices of 9.8's to go down or up? If lot's of people start chasing 9.8's that will bring up demand but not sure if the 9.9's/10's will put pressure down on the 9.8's.
reason for cgc existing: earning respect and trust through reliable and consistent grading ... reality: cgc has random comparative grading that can be exploited the comic book collector community is ridiculous
Those who are trying this scheme early are the ones who will make the money. Once there are so many 9.9s and 10.0s out there, the prices will collapse.
Interesting business model. Every now and then something in comic books comes up where there is a clear hack/exploit in which someone makes bank. You have just identified several examples. No doubt, Sgt. Skeevie is sharpening his/her/their combat knife right now. All a bit reminiscent of those vidies Bry used to make about trading in the curve for MCU books. For a time $$$ were to be had fosho. But now? Curve has gone flat. No one but no one cares much about MCU. Disney + has gone - and all we get is some cheesy animation that everyone loves because they are starving for just one just one ounce of mana. No doubt same forces will apply to the 9.9 prescreen strategy that will turn it over night into the 9.6 prescreened tragedy - at least for some. Interesting as always to hear your perspective and thanks for all the fun!🎉😊❤
@@Supertomscustoms CGC wants average collectors to see all the new 9.9's and think MAYBE THEY can resubmit (more fees to CGC) and possibly get the same result now. It's a giant marketing ploy to generate more money for CGC
No idea. I’ve learned that I can’t necessarily trust their grade dates. They update them for random reasons and it makes them somewhat useless at times.
Ryan, I'm contemplating buying a bunch of secret war number eights. But I'm wondering why I need to crack them out of the slabs they could de won a 9.6 and keep the other ones at 9.8. thought it might be better just to send them a bunch of 9/8 since they are recognizing that there are some out there that could have been higher. What do you think??
Of course I think there will be more 9.9’s and 10’s hitting the census in the near future. But would there be sooo many that the 9.8 would take a big hit? If anything I think the 9.9 and 10 premiums would drop a bit and the 9.8’s would stay fairly constant. Also, I’m sure only “modern” books will see this effect in value versus silver and golden age books.
Only an idiot wouldn't realize that the next part of the scam is to start pumping out 10s. What do these people have to do to snap the buyers out of this scam mentality? You going to just keep feeding them money until 10.1s start hitting the market? At what point does it just become buyers being stupid rather than CGC running a clever scam?
I collect Timely and Atlas books from 39-59. Several of these books are VERY rare. Almost everything made after 1964 is very, very common by comparison. Buyer beware!!
I totally agree with your assessment. Golden Age books do not have this risk, as many books might have a 9.2 or 9.4 as the highest grade known. They were handled differently back then. Some copies even had ads in them to recycle for the war effort during WWII. Modern comics are preserved from the start, so it leads to a much higher population towards the highest grades. My target in collecting is Prize Comics and Frankenstein Comics by Dick Briefer. They are hard to find in nice shape.
I'm buying Turok #1!!! Come on 10s! I will be a dollar-aire!
Brilliant detective work! You're channel, BY FAR, is the most informative about the current market.
agreed!
100% agree
The house always wins.
💯 spot-on. Grading via comparison is bad news
As a collector, I find this extremely disturbing. Our hobby is becoming big business as opposed to what it should be, a love of our books and an appreciation of the art, artists and writers. My collection is high end, but I cannot spend my time obsessing over spine ticks and blunted corners. I treasure my 9.8 books and would not buy a 9.9 on principle alone. Especially now.
As long as you collect for the joy of the hobby you'll never be disappointed. Just enjoy the history of the characters, story, and what those books means to you :)
CGC has gone big corporate on us
F CGC...
So your saying a manufactured artificial scarcity grading system built on a very subjective mirage of grades on the high end is potentially somewhat scamy and can potentially provide survivor benefits to some individuals over others. I'm shocked. Inconceivable.
I'm sure they will fix any concerns in due time. In fact you could even say the fix is in.
Great video. Two comments/questions. 1) Remember the amp that goes to "11'" in SPINAL TAP? Comparative grading feels like the precursor of CGC in 5 years creating a new "11" grade like an 11 volume on an amp ("Well, it's 1 louder than 10, see what I mean?" "Yeah, but why don't you just make 10 louder?" "Because we have 11."). 2) Whether or not the Wolverine submission was a collection of existing, cracked-out 9.8s or just someone's never- opened, pristine stack (of which I am sure there are many from the 1980s for similarly notable books), your points about the effects of comparative grading (a potential new business model and impact on values), are spot on, but you didn't really say anything explicit about comparative grading itself. Seems it should be expressly called out as effectively undermining 20 years of non comparative grading, and it may be more problematic than the reholder scandal. (I am now almost entirely focused on Golden Age, where CGC is less compromised. Less.)
Anyone who pays $100,000 for a book that was recently a $600 9.8 until some minimum wage grunt decided it was higher - has more money than sense
"A strange game. The only winning move is not to play."
This is really scary. 10 in a month!!! By the end of the year they will have over 100 9.9's.
It likely won’t continue at that kind of rate. But more something to keep an eye out for in other late bronze through copper era books.
I find these videos very thought-provoking and useful. Not the typical run-of-the-mill video. Thanks for thinking outside-the-box when creating videos. I have been very sensitive to current and forecasted census of the books I am now willing to pursue. I am now selling many of my key grails that have higher (and ever increasing) census counts. I would never invest in a 9.9 or 10 right now when prices are inflated because we know more of the same graded books are coming. Too much value risk right now.
Didn’t CGC say specifically that there were lots of 9.9 and 10’s in 9.8 cases in that interview cause they weren’t looking for them.
Yes. That was an amazing way to make everyone to crack their slabs and submit them again: “You would never know… maybe the next 9.9 is closer than you think”. When everyone has 9.9s, maybe in 20 years they will do the same with 10s lol
Hmmmmm seems like comic connect and Cgc are in cahoots to me…
Big reason why I've stopped looking at copper/modern books. Youre no longer valuing the book.. and only hunting 9.8+.
Very good points! Well thought out. NEVER BUY 9.9's and 10's !
This is just pay to play scheme with auction houses. I wonder if it is possibly illegal if they actually show communication with auction houses?
I completely agree. They are not grading these by comparison . It's collusion bt certain auction houses or dealers and CGC. There's already precedent of HA being shady and jim halperin shill bidding . And add to that all the WATA games shenanigans. it's a scam
Outstanding video. Very persuasive argument of your comparative grading theory! Thanks for sharing!
You should check out the interview on Swagglehaus today with Matt Nelson. He literally says they do comparative grading.
@@AutomaticComics thanks. I didn’t know about that video. Watching now!
Just another way for cgc to make more money for people to send in their 9.8 books for resub press and grade hoping they get the 9.9 at least. I believe a lot of collectors are going to be disappointed by either getting back their books at 9.8 or lower. 😅
One day CGC will goof big enough or something better will come along and there will be another preference for collectors. Imagine if CGC books get looked at one day the way we all look and think of PGX now??? 😂😂😂😂
Awesome vid! It’s about to get crazy!
I honestly don't understand how they even get it with all the inconsistency of cgc graders. Your grade is in the hands of the one person looking at the books who has a totally different point of view than other people. I sent two of the exact same copy of Wolverine 1 limited. One got a 9.6 and one got a 9.8 and I swear to God looking at them they are the exact same book same condition. That proves to me that cgc is very inconsistent and it really goes with who is doing the grading at the time. How sad for us little collectors so happy about our collections and the books we aquire. Only to get shit on
Great work man thanks for the info!
So if books gwt cracked open sent in raw, would the census also be trash after awhile. I know they want the labels to be sent in with the books but if your going to gamble that big no way your sending in the old labels
It’s also a gamble to not send in the label, because you may end up getting a 9.4 or 9.6. By sending it in at least you mitigate your losses too, but at the same time you can limit yourself in getting the grade bump. It’s a tough call
Very important video. Thank you my man!
CGC shouldn’t be allowed to fix the market like that.I don’t understand why they allow regrading.
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As always pros and cons with cgc great video Ryan add some real food for thought I do prefer the Overstreet grading standards
I did a video, a follow up from last year, where I looked at the top 20 books that had the most 9.8s without any 9.9s, and when I checked this past weekend, still none of them had any 9.9s.
This is why we can't have nice things... 😔
💯 agree. I’d never buy a 9.8 again.
Cgc rewards the big fish who can submit 20 9.8s at a time
Plebs submitting 1 - no chance
Not actually about the condition of the books
I’m an old dinosaur, but it seems to me that collectors these days are spending more time looking at prices on their phones than they do looking at actual comics. Things have changed a lot, peoples motives seem to be more based on greed and profit. But if thats what makes them happy then God bless!
I think with the cost for many of these books, unless you’re independently wealthy and money is no object, you have to also consider the value and potential future values in your purchasing decisions.
@@AutomaticComics I understand it. It makes sense to hoard those 9.8s and resubmit them if your goal is just to make a profit, but it could also be a little risky. Of course I like to see my collection increase in value, too. But I always did it more for fun. I haven’t been too active in recent years though. I got (most of) the ones I wanted. I do have the Wolverine 1 but I got it back in the 80s and its not super high grade, like those
This is turning into a joke for grading and I'm sure it's still the top people that get all these high grade books who end up having a monopoly on the market anyway. Think it's why I choose to go after more Golden Age stuff now days. Thanks for bringing out this video because I honestly will never watch a comic Tom video so I would know nothing about this lol.
He covers books I don’t tend to watch as much and what’s going on with spec and that kind of thing. So I watch his channel to keep up to date on that side of the market.
great video - another piece of evidence that CGC grades are more arbitrary than anyone wants to accept. Those were all 9.8's... now, they're 9.8's, 9.9's and 10.0. The grades are nonsense. I am not upset - and don't care if this impacts the 9.8 values since I don't buy into the greater fool scheme - and those that do are using their own money, so it's really not my business or concern.
Ah the graders "feeling" on the grade of a book video comes to mind.....pay no attention to the cgc scandals of the last six months. ....whats the saying a sucker is born every minute
Excellent analysis.
CGC being in kahoots with the auction houses is more undeniable everyday
Happening in sports cards too. The company that owns the #1 sports card grading company, also owns the top sports card auction house. Its so shady.
Awesome Video !!! - Great Work !! - Thanks for doing that research and compiling the info. I think your conclusions are 100% accurate. Do not trust CGC
I mean... they gotta keep the scam alive somehow after the reholdering thing. If you're still buying slabs well... What can be said at this point? A fool and their money are soon parted.
I appreciate your work, Ryan.
I've got one of the largest CGC 10.0 comic collections I have seen. All big title mainstream comics.
9.9 is the new 9.8 for post 1980 comics existing in high quantities
It’s insane to me that people ever put so much value in the higher grades. All the folks that dropped 10x value for a subjective opinion are to blame. Might as well dip a book in snake oil and tell me it’ll cure blindness.
Oh my! Very interesting vid. Thanks!
I personally cap out a comics potential value at a 9.8.
I see you additional value for 9.9 or 10, mostly because if you crack any 9.9 or 10 and resubmit it, odds are it will come back a 9.8.
CGC has very little grading consistently. Nearly any CGC book will fluctuate up or down a graded over and over again when resubmitted.
I would like to know the justification in grading methods now vs 6 months ago. 9.9 percentage 6 months ago very low compared to now.
I had a feeling this might be happening at around this time after the Giant Sized X-men 9.9 mess. I’ve been telling people, when asked my opinion, that CGC is basically resetting the bar and there will be some correction to come as a result.
I won’t go all doom and gloom as CGC isn’t going anywhere, and will still be the gold standard, but in the short term, I would agree it’s very concerning if you own some of these books and intend to sell/buy them anytime soon.
This is really pulling the sheets on the slabbing scam that CGC has going on.
Great, insightful video! This is going to change the market. I think 9.8 prices will increase due to this change
9.9 and 10 were only so expensive bc they were so rare. Now that it’s changing I expect people will be less willing to pay as much.
I was talking to Spinal Tap grading and they said they go to 11 .......................... it's one more.
LOL. I made the same Spinal Tap reference but hadn't seen yours.
This isn't scary its disgusting! The most disgusting part is people will gripe yes but then they will continue sending cgc books!
This is insane. The market can't handle a huge shift like this in such a short amount of time. A lot of collectors and dealers are going to get hurt.
So who submitted all those Wolverine #1s? Maybe has connections with management at CGC
Reminds me of Apple. It was about market share and new customers but when they tapped out on that, it became about products that don't last as long and you can't repair them yourself so revenue was from existing customer purchases. There's a set amount of old books so looks like this is just tapping into previously graded books as a larger source of their revenue. I've never had anything graded. Isn't a % of the FMV a part of the calculation on how much it costs to grade a book? So, if a book goes from a 9.8 to a 9.9 is the grading cost exponentially higher on a book like Wolverine 1?
Typo above I meant they could "deem one" a 9.6 and the rest a 9.8 for comparison but you did mention that they can all come back like that.
I just procured Doom 1 Skan variant Cgc 9.9
9.9 shouldn't be rare anyway for recent comics. Older comics have the original paper so those should be impossible to get a 9.9. When they changed the paper quality during the "deluxe " edition. It's harder to damage those books.
This is a first world issue. The major majority in this hobby can't afford 9.9s. This business model in every way supports the big dealers and auction houses which we all know already receive favoritism from cgc. Why any of you does business with this company is beyond me. But it does show your integrity definitely has a price tag.
How much does the Trade Paper Back or Hard back sell for ??? 😊😊😊
9.8 's are the new 9.2 's. 9.9's are the new 9.6. That $100,000 10.0 will quickly become $50,000 and so on. The market will price them all accordingly within a year or so. Better make those regrades and flips quick.
That’s a 35% increase in an old book 9.9s.
These are obviously not new books these are 9.8s resubmitted and getting grade changes.
CGC always think of a new gimmick to make money… get out there…9.9’s is current new one. They know sooner or later most comics will be incased 🤔
and once that happens they will declare bankruptcy and reform a company that charges these idiots to break them out and put them in new "better" cases. These slab buyers are so damb can you blame them for taking advantage?
do you consider the prices of 9.8's to go down or up? If lot's of people start chasing 9.8's that will bring up demand but not sure if the 9.9's/10's will put pressure down on the 9.8's.
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reason for cgc existing: earning respect and trust through reliable and consistent grading ... reality: cgc has random comparative grading that can be exploited
the comic book collector community is ridiculous
Great, comic book pricing gonna get all wonky again
Those who are trying this scheme early are the ones who will make the money. Once there are so many 9.9s and 10.0s out there, the prices will collapse.
Do you think comparative grading will be the only way of getting 9.9/10.0?
Interesting business model. Every now and then something in comic books comes up where there is a clear hack/exploit in which someone makes bank. You have just identified several examples. No doubt, Sgt. Skeevie is sharpening his/her/their combat knife right now. All a bit reminiscent of those vidies Bry used to make about trading in the curve for MCU books. For a time $$$ were to be had fosho. But now? Curve has gone flat. No one but no one cares much about MCU. Disney + has gone - and all we get is some cheesy animation that everyone loves because they are starving for just one just one ounce of mana. No doubt same forces will apply to the 9.9 prescreen strategy that will turn it over night into the 9.6 prescreened tragedy - at least for some. Interesting as always to hear your perspective and thanks for all the fun!🎉😊❤
CGC are just paying homage to P.T. Barnum.
whoa….10 new 9.9’s in a month. that’s crazy
“This hobby’s on fire!”-Alicia keys
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SUPER SUPER FUNNY. Great job
Books in this time period can be really nice. Maybe they found an unopened box from the 80’s that had all Wolverine #1
It’s possible. I can’t say where they came from. All just speculation without the submitter saying what they did.
We really need a grading set up that is in stone with set parameters. It should never be subjective
Objective grading is bad for their business model.
Yup- cause then you can just do it yourself @@Supertomscustoms
Use AI to scan and grade them.
@@GravelRacer1 thar would be a really bad idea.
@@Supertomscustoms CGC wants average collectors to see all the new 9.9's and think MAYBE THEY can resubmit (more fees to CGC) and possibly get the same result now. It's a giant marketing ploy to generate more money for CGC
This is the beginning of CGC downfall. I already scaled back with using them for grading.
That TeamCGC9.8 youtuber is screwed. His collection will tank HARD.
Tens can’t be far off.
If there is money in it, why not "10.1"...lol.
We need Marvel to get into the slab game. That will at least give us a book from the press to a slab
Why is the grade date different on the 9.9’s and 10 (5/2/24)? The 9.8’s were all graded 4/18/24. Strange.
No idea. I’ve learned that I can’t necessarily trust their grade dates. They update them for random reasons and it makes them somewhat useless at times.
Great observation sir. Thanks
Ryan, I'm contemplating buying a bunch of secret war number eights. But I'm wondering why I need to crack them out of the slabs they could de won a 9.6 and keep the other ones at 9.8. thought it might be better just to send them a bunch of 9/8 since they are recognizing that there are some out there that could have been higher. What do you think??
the comic still has to be in 9.9/10 shape though. It's not like these book are slabbed with 2 cb ticks and creases....
I'm getting this book quad-signed right now. I wish that submission was mine :(
Thinking about changing the Automatic Comics hat logo to a 9.9?
Unpopular opinion but I think the difference between a 9.8 and a 9.9 is just how the CGC grader is feeling that day
Of course I think there will be more 9.9’s and 10’s hitting the census in the near future. But would there be sooo many that the 9.8 would take a big hit? If anything I think the 9.9 and 10 premiums would drop a bit and the 9.8’s would stay fairly constant. Also, I’m sure only “modern” books will see this effect in value versus silver and golden age books.
Only an idiot wouldn't realize that the next part of the scam is to start pumping out 10s. What do these people have to do to snap the buyers out of this scam mentality? You going to just keep feeding them money until 10.1s start hitting the market? At what point does it just become buyers being stupid rather than CGC running a clever scam?
Have saved myself a ton of cash (which I then put into other books - LOL) over the decades by not buying 9.8's. Won't be buying 9.9's or 10's either.
Who’s surprised?! Really?! We knew, the day it was announced, that this would happen.
I collect Timely and Atlas books from 39-59. Several of these books are VERY rare. Almost everything made after 1964 is very, very common by comparison. Buyer beware!!
I totally agree with your assessment. Golden Age books do not have this risk, as many books might have a 9.2 or 9.4 as the highest grade known. They were handled differently back then. Some copies even had ads in them to recycle for the war effort during WWII. Modern comics are preserved from the start, so it leads to a much higher population towards the highest grades. My target in collecting is Prize Comics and Frankenstein Comics by Dick Briefer. They are hard to find in nice shape.
We're about to see a bunch of 9.9 and 10's of ultimate fallout 4 I'm sure!
Having to do comparitive grading makes me think cgc doesn't really have a standard for what a 9.9/ 10 actually looks like
Cgc cards already have a regular 10 and a Pristine gem mint 10.
They just copied Beckett though for that.
Ryan, you should probably alter your into by changing your hat that drops down from a 9.8 to a 9.9 because that’s the wave of the future.
You’re the second person to recommend that 😂
@@AutomaticComics 🤣
BlackStone Grading strikes again!
Watch the 9.8s flood eBay in dump mode.
What did the Price of the 9.5 drop to ???
9.5 would $1mm 😂😂😂
Never bought higher than 9.4 so don't bother me but if tou paid premium for 9.8s that's gonna hurt
agree with your analysis