A visit to the Bay State Model RR Museum. Video includes MBTA Boeing LRV 3402, B&QT 2380, Connecticut Co. 2364 and MTA Picture Window PCC Train. 7-29-09
It's quite unusual to see accurate models of the PCCs that ran in Boston, since (to my knowledge) the Boston trolleys were the only PCC cars fitted with "street side" doors, I believe for use in the trolley subway. I would love to model a PCC train someday, once my modeling skills, and finances, are up to par with what the project would require. These cars look truly stunning, I can only say "wow!" and compliment the make/modeler responsible for them! Love your Boeing car too! There's something curiously attractive about their boxy, 'modern' 1970s design.
I chose to model one of Boston's LRVs that was originally equipped with trolley poles because my traction layout cannot handle pantographs. Currently the pantograph on the car is not operational. It needs to be modified and wired for pick up. The club layout it is running on in the video is fully equipped to run cars with either poles or pantographs. I do plan on making the modifications necessary soon. Thanks for your interest.
The way the trolley wire is hung from the span wires, makes the difference. The type of hangers vary, section breaks in the wire, and the geometry of the wire angles on curves can be different. In reality, cities like Toronto and Philadelphia's streetcars are equipped for trolley pole only. While Boston's system was converted to pantograph only. San Francisco can handle both.
Interesting, I didn't even think about the wire angles on curves. That could probably make a huge difference. By the way, do you have any tips or advice on scratchbuilding? I assume you built this LRV yourself, right? I think it'd be neat to build a Type 7 in HO scale some day.
Václav Kříž The green, articulated streetcar was a Boeing-Vertol LRV (Light Rail Vehicle) which was meant to be a new, standard streetcar for use in the United States in the 1970s, as the older PCC cars were wearing out. Only two cities used them, Boston and San Francisco. By that time, the only other cities in North America with streetcars were Newark, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Cleveland, New Orleans, and Toronto -- none of which had any interest in the LRV. They were less than successful, and soon developed many problems, partly due to the complications of the design. In Boston they had to navigate tunnels built in the 1890s, and San Francisco required them to load at both street level and high-level platforms in the Market Street subway. Technology that works for aircraft is not always suited for mass transit -- they had plug doors, for example, which were heavy and complicated and prone to failure. Many were being scrapped in the 1980s, with little over a decade in service, while rebuilding and slow delivery of replacements kept some in service into the 2000s.
Love that Boeing Vertol Light Rail Vehicle! Got one for my birthday as a kid, to run on my layout.
It's quite unusual to see accurate models of the PCCs that ran in Boston, since (to my knowledge) the Boston trolleys were the only PCC cars fitted with "street side" doors, I believe for use in the trolley subway. I would love to model a PCC train someday, once my modeling skills, and finances, are up to par with what the project would require. These cars look truly stunning, I can only say "wow!" and compliment the make/modeler responsible for them! Love your Boeing car too! There's something curiously attractive about their boxy, 'modern' 1970s design.
I chose to model one of Boston's LRVs that was originally equipped with trolley poles because my traction layout cannot handle pantographs. Currently the pantograph on the car is not operational. It needs to be modified and wired for pick up. The club layout it is running on in the video is fully equipped to run cars with either poles or pantographs. I do plan on making the modifications necessary soon. Thanks for your interest.
The way the trolley wire is hung from the span wires, makes the difference. The type of hangers vary, section breaks in the wire, and the geometry of the wire angles on curves can be different. In reality, cities like Toronto and Philadelphia's streetcars are equipped for trolley pole only. While Boston's system was converted to pantograph only. San Francisco can handle both.
As a fellow Boston native this is awesome nice job
I'm not a Boston native, but I like it too.
thanks guys, that was fun to watch!!!
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Excellent video of your LRV and the layout.
Very realistic looking.
Excellent!!
Is there a scale model of Fenway Park? Seriously, how did you make the streets?
Interesting, I didn't even think about the wire angles on curves. That could probably make a huge difference.
By the way, do you have any tips or advice on scratchbuilding? I assume you built this LRV yourself, right? I think it'd be neat to build a Type 7 in HO scale some day.
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Hmm, interesting. What makes a layout not equipped to run cars with pantographs vs. trolley poles?
Why do you have the poles on the LRV? Why not use the pantograph?
where i can i buy these model trains and sets ?
I Like this Train I have an O Scale
Amazing LRV model! Is it homemade?
Nice model. Thanks for shairng! In what cities were that green streetcars in operation and when?
Václav Kříž The green, articulated streetcar was a Boeing-Vertol LRV (Light Rail Vehicle) which was meant to be a new, standard streetcar for use in the United States in the 1970s, as the older PCC cars were wearing out. Only two cities used them, Boston and San Francisco. By that time, the only other cities in North America with streetcars were Newark, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Cleveland, New Orleans, and Toronto -- none of which had any interest in the LRV.
They were less than successful, and soon developed many problems, partly due to the complications of the design. In Boston they had to navigate tunnels built in the 1890s, and San Francisco required them to load at both street level and high-level platforms in the Market Street subway. Technology that works for aircraft is not always suited for mass transit -- they had plug doors, for example, which were heavy and complicated and prone to failure. Many were being scrapped in the 1980s, with little over a decade in service, while rebuilding and slow delivery of replacements kept some in service into the 2000s.
I went there.
Any advice