Agreed. I think the reason why it legally hasn't been considered as a viable punishment, is probably because some people who actually have been SA'ed do sometimes unintentionally misidentify attackers. However in cases like this where the false accusation is purposely and willfully done, folks need to go scorched earth. It is not just the amount of time that someone wrongfully accused has to suffer with, it's essentially a loss of life. Your reputation is ruined, you lose friends and family, you risk losing jobs, college placement, etc., and even when proven innocent there are people who still don't believe you.
@@chantalalexanderI know that too. I watched an episode of forensic files where a young girl misidentified her violator as her uncle, but was actually her grandmother’s neighbor who look similar to him. Thankfully the uncle had his name cleared by his now ex wife who did what the system were too lazy to do. Investigate properly
@@Shuichisaihara5499misidentification and lying are different things. There are too many cases where it’s an easily proven lie and there’s zero consequences
Story 2. Dude's wife sabotaged his meeting with his daughter. He's betting everything on his barely legal wife who's going to leave him for anorher man her own age. He's gonna die alone.
People don't seem to realize that false SA accusations are just as evil if not more so than actual SA, and defending the false accuser is just as bad as defending actual SAer. not only that, automatically siding with the accuser is in fact a form of betrayal. It should be understandable (if not completely justified) why the man is unable to forgive.
I've opened a dozen restaurants with hundreds of cooks, there are only about three females but all masculine personalities. It's very harsh working environment and high pressure so feminine personality usually fails. We do put feminine on the expediting position.
WOW the dude screwed his wife instead of being on time to meet his daughter to reconcile. I hope the child bride leaves him. Interesting that is 21 year old daughter is marrying a "boy" while his wife was an adult at 18.
Makes me wonder why the police were never involved if the family was so certain that OP was guilty. The supposed victim could have also sued him so why weren’t lawyers involved? This whole thing is so stupid. But I do wonder why this woman lied in the first place, what did she gain from it? Attention?
@@Mathlover15some people think that they are doing one last kind favor before exiling the person. Not to mention the person at fault would talk about how they don't want attention. I was a witness to one of these events my friend was accused by his cousin.
@@Mathlover15I guarantee that the so-called victim didn't want the police involved, because when you do that, you have to start explaining yourself, and present some kind of evidence. And she knew damn well that evidence did not exist against him.
@@Mathlover15it was his birthday and the b couldn't stand someone else getting the attention so she made a 1d10t1c remark to get all the attention and it succeeded. She had to be a narcissistic attention seeking b.
@SnowyWolborg it gets kind of tricky when you take into consideration that a lot of actual victims don't get the police involved, either, because 9 times out of 10 the police will tell you "you don't have enough proof so it's a waste of time and we can't do anything". There was literally a case not to long ago where a woman was assaulted, and the police refused to help her because they thought she was lying, even though the hospital literally tested her and found proof of an assault. Most victims aren't even lucky enough to reach the hospital on time. Especially children who can't drive themselves. I just wish you guys would stop generalizing rape when it is an incredibly complex, hard to prove crime. It's something that happens behind closed doors. It isn't as easy as murder or a punch to the face.
Second story: The whole wife being half his age thing aside, which is absolutely disgusting by the way and basically him banging someone who's the same age as his former daughter, how tf did OP not see this coming? He literally told his daughter that he wished she hadn't been born. Not only does someone have to be completely heartless to say that to anyone, let alone their kid, but it more than likely also affected the daughter mentally and emotionally. It probably made her wonder who else might think the same thing about her, and gave her one or more mental breakdown. OP needs to leave his former daughter alone. He burned that bridge by saying that one thing, and there's no coming back from it. OP: My WiFe WaS bEiNg CuTe So I hAd tO bAnG hEr WhEn I wAs SuPpOsEd To MeEt My DaUgHtEr. ^ That's what OP sounded like in my brain. That's where his priorities are, his groomed child bride. Fucking gross.
It’s not and it’s weird that the world thinks that an eighTEEN year old is an “adult” it’s just another excuse for these creepy ass old people to justify getting with a young person
Some people continue to feel that way and generate no life experiences either. At some point, we have to go by the biological reality and the legal definition, lest we just consider people who fail to grow up as children even if they're 20, 30 or 40.
Story 2: Notice how when Op talked about his daughters fiancé he calls him a boy. But his wife who is likely the around the same age is a woman. Yeah that is the sign of a predator
@@mohamedemad2051 bassically the man in the 2nd story sees his daughter's fiance as still a 'boy' but when his new wife was 18 he immediately see's her as a 'capable adult'
3rd story, OP mental abuse is still abuse, get your son out of the house and away from the toxic mom. By showing favoritism to the sister the mom is mentally abusing the son. It also sounds like the mom is filling the daughter full of bs about her brother. Mom is causing the family to self-destruct, and the blame is totally on her.
7:39 … he explains he met her when she was 18, not a minor and a friend of his daughter. 🤢 I won’t ever understand why grown ass, middle aged men think it’s appropriate to get involved with a girl who is freshly legal, or friends with their children. Come on, there are plenty of people out there who are closer to your own age to meet and hook up/marry. Let the young girls/boys enjoy their lives before they even consider getting married to someone. This girl graduated high school and immediately got involved with a man in his 40’s. Where’s the parties, college sororities, hanging out with friends, finding her dream job, etc.? She’s not going to extend her wings because he will be holding her back cause he’s already “been there, done that”. 🤦🏼♀️
@@stirrednotshaken4823some women's dream is to have an established older man take care of them. He also mentioned she was sort of shy, so she probably had no desire to sleep around with guys she met at parties and college sororities.
Story #1: There is literally no reason to reconnect. These people have been out of his life for longer than they were ever in it. 22 years is a lifetime. OP needs nothing from these people and they can stay gone.
OP in 1st story is NTA. He has every right to disown them, even to the point of changing his last name. They threw him out for dead over an empty accusation.
S2: anytime a parent says their new SO was friends with their child, it says groomer. Doesn't matter if they were 18, they creeped on their child's friend. 22 years between him and his wife. That's just gross.
I think the only time a situation like that could be valid if the child's friend is at least 10-15 years old than them (like a work friend, church friend, etc), and the child is at LEAST 25-30+, and the child introduces them _for the purpose of pursuing a romantic relationship._ OP is was just very obviously a creep, and I have no idea what he was expecting from Reddit when he ran there to play "woe is me."
That last story. It makes me wonder, was the wife cheating/using drugs/booze before the whole thing fell apart? Because the way she just started abusing her son was such a weird shift in personality. Did the way OP complimented her son's cooking hit her in some insecurities maybe?
I think it's more a case of the wife seeing her own cooking and domestic activities as her sole reason for being in the family, plus the whole rigid gender roles thing, and she saw her son as a threat to her station when her husband complimented their son on his cookign a little too much. Some people can get really, *really* weird about shit like that, to the point of tearing apart families. They take any kind of change to family dynamics like that really badly.
@@smokinggnu6584i thought the same thing. She seems to pride herself over her cooking and to be the go-to person in her immediate family for her cooking and has some insecurities or existential crisis or something for that position to be taken away from her. For this reason, altho I think OP made the right decisions for his kids, I honestly think he acted poorly towards his wife and was not being the proper supportive husband. It sounds like he was just telling her she was wrong (which he shouldve done) but not asking her why she was acting like that (which he shouldve also done). Doesn't justify wife basically throwing her life away afterwards, but it does offer a bit of explanation
Story 2 has to be fake just because of how cartoonishly tone deaf an evil op is. Story 3: the wife was obviously looking for an out. She clearly resents her son, and her husband. This was clearly more than just feeling threatened by her son's cooking capabilities. What validates this in my opinion, is the fact that she went on a total bender and cheated on her husband with a younger guy. She's very clearly a clinical narcissist, and should not be around her children at all.
Story 2 if any of my parents tell me they wish I wasn't born. You can't EVER WALK THAT BACK!!! That parent is forever dead to me!!! She was sweet to meet up with him ,I would have told my grandparents let this ride and leave it alone.
22 years is far too long, and the first story's OP is NOT wrong for just refusing to "reconnect" with a family threw him away. The Aunt is a better parent than the father that is for certain.
Story 2: im more uninterested in age gaps like that as long as everything is above board. But its the language he uses, calling his wife a woman while his Son In Law is just a boy, that gives me the ick.
Second story HAS to be a rage bait. No one is that utterly incompetent at basic self management. New Wife got groomed, and they've made a dynamic that replaces the daughter. It's gross. and probably to the daughter it feels like he was creeping on her too.
It’s immature for a grown adult to lust after a child and then marry them as soon as they’re “legal.” It’s legal for adults to sleep with literal minors in some countries, still doesn’t mean it’s right. Religious or not, it’s morally wrong. It’s manipulation.
The family knows that it's too late to apologize, and shouldn't even bother making the attempt. I mean, OP had just turned 19 when they kicked him out. And they're only trying to reconcile with him after 22 years of no contact, when he's 41. And all because the "victim" revealed that it was false months earlier. I mean, what do you think would've happened if the "victim" had died in a car crash or something a couple of years ago? Before she got a chance to reveal the truth? Would OP's family still try to reconcile? I highly doubt it. Not to be a family anyway.
So this man was perverting on his daughter's friends more than likely it was still married to the daughter's mother at that time starting an affair with a child, and then end up marrying that child. And the reason that she is not leaving it's because more than likely you're taking care of her and she doesn't have her own s*** together.
The last story makes me a little bit concerned, the fact that the wife goes from cooking with son -> get jealous of her son because OP compliment the son's cooking -> turns into the son's bully -> cheating and do drugs to the point she almost become a post-person in a seemingly short span of time. I have a theory that the cheating and drugs part was an ongoing issues WAY before all of this started and that the wife's friend is feeding her BS the whole time to encourage such behavior. OP needs to get the full custody, I just can't see the wife can be trusted with children anytime soon if her reaction to her child showing talent is emotionally abusing them
Second story: I'm literally 19 and am still living with my parents. I'm learning how to take care of myself everyday and how to be an adult with a job and shit. My older sister is 25 and shes also young, but theres so much mental growth from 18-25. Let alone from 18 to fucking 40. Bro is creepy, and the way he talks about his wife too. That she was "too cute" and he "couldn't help himself." They did't even date for a whole year before getting married. Weirdo... I hope he stays away from his daughter, and that her friend matures healthily to find someone who isn't perverted.
Story 1 - I'll give her extra points for choosing to pull this stunt on op's birthday so he'll never enjoy another birthday for years without remembering the day his "family" kicked him out and abandoned him. Poor op. At least not everyone was against him. I don't know if I could force myself to see those douchebags but forgiveness? Ooof. Op's brother has audacity in bulk to pull the family card on op after what they put him through. Their cries would have pissed me off more than their apologies. Story 2 - This op sounds like his mom dropped him on the soft spot when he was an infant. The double standard hypocrisy is outstandingly disgusting but not as op trying to pretend he's a regretful dad after saying to his daughter's face he wished she'd never been born. That bridge is completely nuked. I also love all of the excuses op has made for marrying someone barely out of high school. She only chose to be with op because she's an inexperienced idiot. Op is a freaking predator. I really hope his wife has an epiphany she can still do better at her age. I "love" that op sounded so desperate for reconciliation but that didn't matter to him as much as getting laid. Story 3 - NTA. Op's ex-wife is legitimately a psychopath. Op may need to monitor his daughter so she doesn't follow her mom's self destructive path. The timing of when she got those divorce papers is completely irrelevant. She would have reacted the same way because she's the kind of woman that doesn't want to go back to either living with her parents or downgrading to an apartment and a minimum wage job.
Why is the aunt encouraging to forgive and forget? Sure, forgiving just to let go that pain. But you never forget and reconnect with those who believe a person over their own flesh and blood IN SAID FLESH'S BIRTHDAY! I mean, I doubt this story is real anyway. 10:30 Yes, you aren't a pedo. However, you are old enough to be her dad. That's weird.
I honestly hope you are right and that this story is fake. It's painful and I don't want it to be truth. OP family basically burned 🔥 the bridge between them by believing someone outside the family over him and now they expect him to forgive and forget ? Nope. What goes around comes around they should have the same kind of forgiveness they gave OP when he need it: 0.
It's crazy how family dynamics can get so twisted. The guy who told his daughter he wished she was never born and now wants to reconcile is just mind-blowing. This was a compelling watch, thanks for sharing.
S3: it’s crazy how some of these posts start out seemingly so petty, but then turn into a dumpster fire. The compliments towards the son’s cooking was probably the straw that broke the camel’s back on some bigger issues. The wife’s friend is the biggest villain in the story though. Wife’s actions are inexcusable, but would she have done it without the “friend” whispering in her ear?
So the mother gets jealous of her son and takes her anger out on him? She sounds like a sexist. He needs to grow up? He’s a ducking child; still a baby! The wife needs to grow up and get over herself
S2: sounds like a rage bait but if it's not I don't know why he's upset for not walking her down the isle? Didn't he already walk his new wife down the isle?
Do not take disownment of a family member lightly. You may regret the decision later, but that family member is not obligated to take you back after the trauma you caused.
That man in the 2nd story clearly thought with his penis not his heart. Its very clear thats all hes thinking with, dont even bother anymore because the damage is done and made it clear the daughter came 2nd or even not at all
I don't know if I could continue listening to story 2 without having a disgust look on my face. OP is a fricking predator. Edit: Nah, I can't listen to it anymore. I'm gonna skipped to the third story
imagine you're an 18 yr old and ur father comes up to you with a surprise, he is marrying a woman and you're excited (or not) to meet ur new stepmom, n ur stepmom is ur 18 yr old friend 💀 oh lord..
The second story is literally me writting on reddit 😂😂😂😂😂 -51 karma 😅😂😂😂 Edit : I ain't that guy. But I post rage baits but gotta tell he's bettah than me
second story: so this dude wants us to believe he met his wife when she was 18, got to know her, fell in love, dated her, got engaged and organized their wedding all the very same year?
S1. Keep very little contact, if the children visit their grandparents set a rule of not pushing to use the children as a tool to reconnect. S2. Daughter is right to go NC. S3. The woman needs to be checked into a drug abuse program before she's even considered for visiting the kids. Don't let her visit without supervision.
Wow. I’m totally not surprised the age gap marriage story, I’m not surprised they married months in. It’s almost like all these older men know the younger will leave them so they entrap them in marriage. It’s not as easy to leave. And you can still catch the younger in that honeymoon phase when they’re dating.
I’d ask them how long they thought I was evil. Because there’s no possibile way your parents can immediately switch from our precious son and siblings, our beloved brother, immediately to, evil disgusting rapist, immediately following one accusation with absolutely NO supporting evidence! In order for this to happen they must have already believed there was something very wrong with you and were just waiting for someone to make an accusation to validate their paranoia! If the accuser was also someone they loved and trusted it would be understandable if they started to suspect it was true and to try and investigate the whole thing but the fact they immediately believed to the point they were willing to immediately throw you out, cut you off and break all contact makes it crystal clear that OP was guilty in his family’s eyes before he was even accused, they just didn’t know for what yet.
The first story is just sad for everyone. But that second story, holy… like I’m not one to judge an age gap like that, cause frankly, once you are an adult that’s a person to person thing, but like given his new wife’s relationship with his daughter based off context, and based off how he reacted, it seems to me he was probably a shit person before and then saw an opportunity to satisfy his own desires and didn’t think of how that might hurt the people around him so I hope he doesn’t have a relationship with his daughter
Lost track of time a missed the opportunity to make things right with your daughter so you could have some playtime with your wife?! If I screwed up a relationship with someone I loved half as much as a parent should love their child as spectacularly as you screwed up yours and I got a second chance I’d be arriving at the location 2 hours early!
I love how in the 2nd story he told his daughter that he wished she was never born. And then wonders why she wants nothing to do with him. Talk about being clueless.
First OP’s attitude towards his accuser is why women will continue to believe it’s ok to make false accusations. Also I don’t think it was wrong of the aunt to ask for him to forgive but definitely wrong for her to ask him to forget.
Story 3 you just gotta leave the wife bro, it’s that simple, who the fuck bullies their own child like that because of such a shit reason, and the wife was 100% cheating on the husband already I think it’s pretty obvious
S2 - No you should have mended your relationship with your daughter big time the moment you said what you did. But you should have not got involved with your daughters friend without taking it very slowly and talking at length with your daughter with the option of stopping if your daughter could not handle it, or not. I honestly don't know but stopping it I think would have been the best decision but again I just don't know. Worlds have collided and you stepped over a huge boundary. Also you are not a child molester or a groomer but just should have not got involved with her friend. That is just stupid comments. I get it. I am almost 54 and I still get 19 year old's trying to date me but I have not touched a woman for almost 10 years. For me women of any age will try to get with any guy no matter their age if they think you have money. When asked why I don't have a GF I tell women I am already sick and tired of my next gf's crap which is the truth.
If someone gets false accused of SA, post the false accusers full name, then full home addresses and their yt channels and finally their faces on social media and ignore the hate from other people you get, because false accusers dont deserve anonymity! PERIOD!!!
Story 3, "I didn't say anything as my wife and I never argue.", it's good that he didn't start a fight infront of the children and what a terrible wife/mother
No one mentioned that the young wife might have screwed OP on purpose just to make him late for his meeting with his daughter? He's still a douche regardless, I mean he didn't care about his daughter until he heard she was getting married and then he wanted to make up in order so that he could walk her down the aisle but he blew that. Saying he wished she was never born pretty much blew any future chances, you can't walk back from that.
Story 2 op is basically a pedo and he abmits it by marrying someone bearly legal so he 100% had a relationship before hand, can see why his daughter is disgusted by him i an to
Personally I believe in forgiving and forgetting, forgive the people/person so they are released from my mind. Then forgetting about them and moving on with my life without them in it.
S1 nta keep nc S2 just let go ,lc and suggest family therapy after a while and acknowledge how much you hurt her S3 nta go lc until she catches some idea of the toxicity you choose not live with
Story 1: Anybody accuse our sons or daughters of something like this the last thing me and my wife are going to do is just outright believe the accuser without solid evidence. Now if real evidence is presented then they can deal with the consequences on their own. Other than that prove it
Fake accusations should be punished with a sentence as long as the one the innocent man would have gotten.
Agreed. I think the reason why it legally hasn't been considered as a viable punishment, is probably because some people who actually have been SA'ed do sometimes unintentionally misidentify attackers.
However in cases like this where the false accusation is purposely and willfully done, folks need to go scorched earth. It is not just the amount of time that someone wrongfully accused has to suffer with, it's essentially a loss of life. Your reputation is ruined, you lose friends and family, you risk losing jobs, college placement, etc., and even when proven innocent there are people who still don't believe you.
@@chantalalexanderI know that too. I watched an episode of forensic files where a young girl misidentified her violator as her uncle, but was actually her grandmother’s neighbor who look similar to him. Thankfully the uncle had his name cleared by his now ex wife who did what the system were too lazy to do. Investigate properly
They’re more worried about dissuading potential future victims than they are about protecting actual current victims.
To its maximum with no parole
@@Shuichisaihara5499misidentification and lying are different things. There are too many cases where it’s an easily proven lie and there’s zero consequences
Story 2. Dude's wife sabotaged his meeting with his daughter. He's betting everything on his barely legal wife who's going to leave him for anorher man her own age. He's gonna die alone.
People don't seem to realize that false SA accusations are just as evil if not more so than actual SA, and defending the false accuser is just as bad as defending actual SAer. not only that, automatically siding with the accuser is in fact a form of betrayal. It should be understandable (if not completely justified) why the man is unable to forgive.
“You remember you have children other than your wife” 🥶🥶🥶
That was cold af😂
Story 3 - "cooking isn't a man's job"
90% of all restaurant chefs and cooks: Ayo, what the fuck?!
Yup. Cooking is the job of those who want to eat.
I've opened a dozen restaurants with hundreds of cooks, there are only about three females but all masculine personalities. It's very harsh working environment and high pressure so feminine personality usually fails. We do put feminine on the expediting position.
WOW the dude screwed his wife instead of being on time to meet his daughter to reconcile. I hope the child bride leaves him. Interesting that is 21 year old daughter is marrying a "boy" while his wife was an adult at 18.
I have a good relationship with my family and I would be freaking out if I wasn't early (but still ontime) who tf are these people?
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That's a really good point
Only one word to describe the guy " Loser Moron". Well, two words. It's a guarantee that she will eventually cheat on him.
My favourite part of the 2nd story was when his new wife was an adult woman when he met her, but his daughter's fiance is a boy...
Right.
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This!
I didn’t catch that part, how old is he?
@@beckystanavich3217 I think he said that he was 40 or 41
Story 2: “You have other children than your wife.”
My jaw dropped 😂🔥
😂😂😂 that was hilarious
Lmao
I cackled at that. 😂😂😂
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Another case where the family failed to investigate properly over false accusations. He should have sued the family member for falsely accusing him.
Makes me wonder why the police were never involved if the family was so certain that OP was guilty. The supposed victim could have also sued him so why weren’t lawyers involved? This whole thing is so stupid. But I do wonder why this woman lied in the first place, what did she gain from it? Attention?
@@Mathlover15some people think that they are doing one last kind favor before exiling the person. Not to mention the person at fault would talk about how they don't want attention.
I was a witness to one of these events my friend was accused by his cousin.
@@Mathlover15I guarantee that the so-called victim didn't want the police involved, because when you do that, you have to start explaining yourself, and present some kind of evidence. And she knew damn well that evidence did not exist against him.
@@Mathlover15it was his birthday and the b couldn't stand someone else getting the attention so she made a 1d10t1c remark to get all the attention and it succeeded. She had to be a narcissistic attention seeking b.
@SnowyWolborg it gets kind of tricky when you take into consideration that a lot of actual victims don't get the police involved, either, because 9 times out of 10 the police will tell you "you don't have enough proof so it's a waste of time and we can't do anything".
There was literally a case not to long ago where a woman was assaulted, and the police refused to help her because they thought she was lying, even though the hospital literally tested her and found proof of an assault.
Most victims aren't even lucky enough to reach the hospital on time. Especially children who can't drive themselves.
I just wish you guys would stop generalizing rape when it is an incredibly complex, hard to prove crime. It's something that happens behind closed doors. It isn't as easy as murder or a punch to the face.
Second story: The whole wife being half his age thing aside, which is absolutely disgusting by the way and basically him banging someone who's the same age as his former daughter, how tf did OP not see this coming? He literally told his daughter that he wished she hadn't been born. Not only does someone have to be completely heartless to say that to anyone, let alone their kid, but it more than likely also affected the daughter mentally and emotionally. It probably made her wonder who else might think the same thing about her, and gave her one or more mental breakdown. OP needs to leave his former daughter alone. He burned that bridge by saying that one thing, and there's no coming back from it.
OP: My WiFe WaS bEiNg CuTe So I hAd tO bAnG hEr WhEn I wAs SuPpOsEd To MeEt My DaUgHtEr.
^ That's what OP sounded like in my brain. That's where his priorities are, his groomed child bride. Fucking gross.
bruh, im 20 and still dont think of myself as an adult, i have no life experience, how can a 18y be an adult?
I didn't start feeling like one until I was 25- 26
It’s not and it’s weird that the world thinks that an eighTEEN year old is an “adult” it’s just another excuse for these creepy ass old people to justify getting with a young person
Some people continue to feel that way and generate no life experiences either. At some point, we have to go by the biological reality and the legal definition, lest we just consider people who fail to grow up as children even if they're 20, 30 or 40.
21 is a safe bet for both men and women any younger is just a crime socially.
And yet some people want 16 year-olds to vote. We're not hobbits who's adulthood begins at 33.
Story 2: Notice how when Op talked about his daughters fiancé he calls him a boy. But his wife who is likely the around the same age is a woman. Yeah that is the sign of a predator
What? 😅
@@mohamedemad2051 bassically the man in the 2nd story sees his daughter's fiance as still a 'boy' but when his new wife was 18 he immediately see's her as a 'capable adult'
you just jealous men love younger women and we don't want old turkey necks
@@yoshisenpai1167 because men and women are different
@@basedstreamingatcozy-dot-t7126yeah it definitely shows how the woman is naive and the daughters husband seems decent enough
3rd story, OP mental abuse is still abuse, get your son out of the house and away from the toxic mom. By showing favoritism to the sister the mom is mentally abusing the son. It also sounds like the mom is filling the daughter full of bs about her brother. Mom is causing the family to self-destruct, and the blame is totally on her.
2:00 ; 2:10
*_"Too Late!!! 22 YEARS TOO LATE."_*
Heh incredibles reference
Best comment 😂
Forgiveness is not for the accuser to have, it's for the victim to give. People need to stop the "woe-is-me" 💩 when the victim won't forgive them.
He met her at 18 his wife is a matured adult so she made an matured decision to marry a man of her father's age. Nice joke 😂😂
No, he *married* her at 18. He met her earlier.
@@armaggedon390what's the timestamp
7:39 … he explains he met her when she was 18, not a minor and a friend of his daughter. 🤢 I won’t ever understand why grown ass, middle aged men think it’s appropriate to get involved with a girl who is freshly legal, or friends with their children. Come on, there are plenty of people out there who are closer to your own age to meet and hook up/marry. Let the young girls/boys enjoy their lives before they even consider getting married to someone. This girl graduated high school and immediately got involved with a man in his 40’s. Where’s the parties, college sororities, hanging out with friends, finding her dream job, etc.? She’s not going to extend her wings because he will be holding her back cause he’s already “been there, done that”. 🤦🏼♀️
@@stirrednotshaken4823I forgot they raised the age of consent to 35.
@@stirrednotshaken4823some women's dream is to have an established older man take care of them. He also mentioned she was sort of shy, so she probably had no desire to sleep around with guys she met at parties and college sororities.
Story #1: There is literally no reason to reconnect. These people have been out of his life for longer than they were ever in it. 22 years is a lifetime. OP needs nothing from these people and they can stay gone.
OP in 1st story is NTA. He has every right to disown them, even to the point of changing his last name. They threw him out for dead over an empty accusation.
S2: anytime a parent says their new SO was friends with their child, it says groomer. Doesn't matter if they were 18, they creeped on their child's friend. 22 years between him and his wife. That's just gross.
It was so hard to even listen to the dude's experiences
I think the only time a situation like that could be valid if the child's friend is at least 10-15 years old than them (like a work friend, church friend, etc), and the child is at LEAST 25-30+, and the child introduces them _for the purpose of pursuing a romantic relationship._ OP is was just very obviously a creep, and I have no idea what he was expecting from Reddit when he ran there to play "woe is me."
Even if you give him the benefit of the doubt, it's clear he cares more about himself than her. What a pile of crap.
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@@goldyd144in other words, this situation is only ok if the friend is well past the wall?
,,She was to cute to ignore"
Ugh. Disgusting at its finest
he really talks like a reddit mod ''My kitten was too cute to ignore'' same shit xd
That last story. It makes me wonder, was the wife cheating/using drugs/booze before the whole thing fell apart? Because the way she just started abusing her son was such a weird shift in personality. Did the way OP complimented her son's cooking hit her in some insecurities maybe?
I’ve heard stories of moms being in a one sided with their daughters but I’ve never heard of moms competing with their sons, at least on this level.
I think it's more a case of the wife seeing her own cooking and domestic activities as her sole reason for being in the family, plus the whole rigid gender roles thing, and she saw her son as a threat to her station when her husband complimented their son on his cookign a little too much. Some people can get really, *really* weird about shit like that, to the point of tearing apart families. They take any kind of change to family dynamics like that really badly.
@@smokinggnu6584i thought the same thing. She seems to pride herself over her cooking and to be the go-to person in her immediate family for her cooking and has some insecurities or existential crisis or something for that position to be taken away from her. For this reason, altho I think OP made the right decisions for his kids, I honestly think he acted poorly towards his wife and was not being the proper supportive husband. It sounds like he was just telling her she was wrong (which he shouldve done) but not asking her why she was acting like that (which he shouldve also done). Doesn't justify wife basically throwing her life away afterwards, but it does offer a bit of explanation
@@VeryGoodDealshe did ask her why she did it but she didnt give him an answer
S2 - His wife was 'too cute' so he missed his meeting to try and reconcile with his daughter? I call BS on the whole story.
Story 2 has to be fake just because of how cartoonishly tone deaf an evil op is.
Story 3: the wife was obviously looking for an out. She clearly resents her son, and her husband. This was clearly more than just feeling threatened by her son's cooking capabilities. What validates this in my opinion, is the fact that she went on a total bender and cheated on her husband with a younger guy. She's very clearly a clinical narcissist, and should not be around her children at all.
Eye roll warning for story 2. 😂
Dude's trying so hard to justify himself, but every new piece of info he gives us just keeps showing how terrible he is, as a father and as a person
Story 2 if any of my parents tell me they wish I wasn't born. You can't EVER WALK THAT BACK!!! That parent is forever dead to me!!! She was sweet to meet up with him ,I would have told my grandparents let this ride and leave it alone.
In second story op wife will end up figuring herself out in her late 20s. And she will leave him.
Or ahe already has and has made her decision.
22 years is far too long, and the first story's OP is NOT wrong for just refusing to "reconnect" with a family threw him away. The Aunt is a better parent than the father that is for certain.
S2 op is disgusting. Plain and simple.
Him: 18 is an Adult
Also Him: She didnt even introduced me to the "BOY"
“You have children other than your wife” lmao
2:05 tbh the best comeback to that would've been "You're right, we *WERE* family. Past-tense. We aren't family now"
Story 1: so what did the family do to that fake sexual assault beach
and why did she do it >< ?
Story 2: im more uninterested in age gaps like that as long as everything is above board.
But its the language he uses, calling his wife a woman while his Son In Law is just a boy, that gives me the ick.
As an sa victim the first story makes me wanna vomit this is the shit that makes it so people didn't believe me.
Second story HAS to be a rage bait. No one is that utterly incompetent at basic self management. New Wife got groomed, and they've made a dynamic that replaces the daughter. It's gross. and probably to the daughter it feels like he was creeping on her too.
I actually know people like that.
Hogwash, she knew what she was doing.
It’s immature for a grown adult to lust after a child and then marry them as soon as they’re “legal.” It’s legal for adults to sleep with literal minors in some countries, still doesn’t mean it’s right. Religious or not, it’s morally wrong. It’s manipulation.
He disnt meer her when she was a child.
The family knows that it's too late to apologize, and shouldn't even bother making the attempt. I mean, OP had just turned 19 when they kicked him out. And they're only trying to reconcile with him after 22 years of no contact, when he's 41. And all because the "victim" revealed that it was false months earlier.
I mean, what do you think would've happened if the "victim" had died in a car crash or something a couple of years ago? Before she got a chance to reveal the truth? Would OP's family still try to reconcile? I highly doubt it. Not to be a family anyway.
So this man was perverting on his daughter's friends more than likely it was still married to the daughter's mother at that time starting an affair with a child, and then end up marrying that child.
And the reason that she is not leaving it's because more than likely you're taking care of her and she doesn't have her own s*** together.
Story #1:
OP = NTA
Aunt & her husband = MVPs 💯😘
The World's Smallest Violins 👌🏻🎻👌🏻🎻👌🏻🎻👌🏻 for bio - _family_ 😂😂
That second story, wow...he's such a manchild
"she was too cute to ignore"
~The worst father to ever walk this planet
Was that his excuse when he saw her in her highschool uniform?
Story 2 is either rage bait or trying to justify his sins to himself
The last story makes me a little bit concerned, the fact that the wife goes from cooking with son -> get jealous of her son because OP compliment the son's cooking -> turns into the son's bully -> cheating and do drugs to the point she almost become a post-person in a seemingly short span of time. I have a theory that the cheating and drugs part was an ongoing issues WAY before all of this started and that the wife's friend is feeding her BS the whole time to encourage such behavior. OP needs to get the full custody, I just can't see the wife can be trusted with children anytime soon if her reaction to her child showing talent is emotionally abusing them
Second story: I'm literally 19 and am still living with my parents. I'm learning how to take care of myself everyday and how to be an adult with a job and shit. My older sister is 25 and shes also young, but theres so much mental growth from 18-25. Let alone from 18 to fucking 40. Bro is creepy, and the way he talks about his wife too. That she was "too cute" and he "couldn't help himself." They did't even date for a whole year before getting married. Weirdo... I hope he stays away from his daughter, and that her friend matures healthily to find someone who isn't perverted.
No they were dating. He just didn't want to say it was before 18. 💀
The biological reality of being an adult is different to life experience yes she’s an adult but she’s not that experienced yet
Story 1 - I'll give her extra points for choosing to pull this stunt on op's birthday so he'll never enjoy another birthday for years without remembering the day his "family" kicked him out and abandoned him. Poor op. At least not everyone was against him. I don't know if I could force myself to see those douchebags but forgiveness? Ooof. Op's brother has audacity in bulk to pull the family card on op after what they put him through. Their cries would have pissed me off more than their apologies.
Story 2 - This op sounds like his mom dropped him on the soft spot when he was an infant. The double standard hypocrisy is outstandingly disgusting but not as op trying to pretend he's a regretful dad after saying to his daughter's face he wished she'd never been born. That bridge is completely nuked. I also love all of the excuses op has made for marrying someone barely out of high school. She only chose to be with op because she's an inexperienced idiot. Op is a freaking predator. I really hope his wife has an epiphany she can still do better at her age. I "love" that op sounded so desperate for reconciliation but that didn't matter to him as much as getting laid.
Story 3 - NTA. Op's ex-wife is legitimately a psychopath. Op may need to monitor his daughter so she doesn't follow her mom's self destructive path. The timing of when she got those divorce papers is completely irrelevant. She would have reacted the same way because she's the kind of woman that doesn't want to go back to either living with her parents or downgrading to an apartment and a minimum wage job.
Why is the aunt encouraging to forgive and forget? Sure, forgiving just to let go that pain. But you never forget and reconnect with those who believe a person over their own flesh and blood IN SAID FLESH'S BIRTHDAY!
I mean, I doubt this story is real anyway.
10:30 Yes, you aren't a pedo. However, you are old enough to be her dad. That's weird.
She is not telling him to let them go but to move on and keep living his best life.
@@SenatiaAIn that case, then I agree with the aunt.
I honestly hope you are right and that this story is fake. It's painful and I don't want it to be truth. OP family basically burned 🔥 the bridge between them by believing someone outside the family over him and now they expect him to forgive and forget ?
Nope. What goes around comes around they should have the same kind of forgiveness they gave OP when he need it: 0.
2:09 Damn, those are some good tree-chopping skills. You didn't have to place any blocks beneath you.
2nd story OP 🤦 she gave you a chance and you blew it
Story 2: he called his daughter's fiance a boy, but says his child bride is an adult. The irony. I hope this is fake.
That dad called his daughter's husband a boy, not a man. Says alot.
So let me get this right second op. Your wife is a grown woman yet your future son-in-law who is approximately the same age as your wife is a boy.
“i met her when she was eighteen” that’s BARELY the line
Story 2. Me me me me me. I wanted. I needed. I emotionally abused my daughter and no I want her back. NO.
It's crazy how family dynamics can get so twisted. The guy who told his daughter he wished she was never born and now wants to reconcile is just mind-blowing. This was a compelling watch, thanks for sharing.
13:20 "You're reminded that you have children other than your wife"
That's a fkn Mike Tyson punch 🤣
S3: it’s crazy how some of these posts start out seemingly so petty, but then turn into a dumpster fire. The compliments towards the son’s cooking was probably the straw that broke the camel’s back on some bigger issues. The wife’s friend is the biggest villain in the story though. Wife’s actions are inexcusable, but would she have done it without the “friend” whispering in her ear?
*Story 3*
Wife- Cooking isn't a man's job.
Gordon Ramsay: AM I A FUCKING JOKE TO YOU!?
So the mother gets jealous of her son and takes her anger out on him? She sounds like a sexist. He needs to grow up? He’s a ducking child; still a baby! The wife needs to grow up and get over herself
2nd story the human brain doesn’t finish developing well into our 20s
2nd Story: the wife is playing the long game to get to his inheritance imo
S2: sounds like a rage bait but if it's not I don't know why he's upset for not walking her down the isle? Didn't he already walk his new wife down the isle?
Do not take disownment of a family member lightly. You may regret the decision later, but that family member is not obligated to take you back after the trauma you caused.
last story has got to be some sort of brain tumor/latent mental health thing.
I feel like forgiveness is a choice to be given, and for it to be a choice it must also be possible to not choose it.
So her husband is a boy but an 18 year old is an adult just wow bpd
That man in the 2nd story clearly thought with his penis not his heart. Its very clear thats all hes thinking with, dont even bother anymore because the damage is done and made it clear the daughter came 2nd or even not at all
Story 2 worst dad ever he'd rather be with someone his daughters age and expects everyone to be ok hos parents kinda screwed too
Story 2 I find it funny op calls us immature when is the immature one so hypocritical he is
2 story completely delusional
Screw the stories, the background minecraft video infuriated me, WHAT THE ACTUAL HECK ARE YOU TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH THERE?
Can’t wait til I hear from another Redditor story how she left him. Someone keep me updated.
2nd story needs chris hansen asap
wtf is going on with the pillars on that bridge?
Was that accidental, or did you actually want it to look like that?
i forgot to listen to the vid becuse i was just so shocked that he managed to mess up that up so many times lol
I don't know if I could continue listening to story 2 without having a disgust look on my face. OP is a fricking predator.
Edit: Nah, I can't listen to it anymore. I'm gonna skipped to the third story
The one about the guy losing his chance to reconcile with his daughter because he couldn't resist his wife's charm was just mind-blowing.
The guy is a doormat and A pushover when it comes to everyone else except the family he left he held his ground when it came to divorce
imagine you're an 18 yr old and ur father comes up to you with a surprise, he is marrying a woman and you're excited (or not) to meet ur new stepmom, n ur stepmom is ur 18 yr old friend 💀 oh lord..
The second story is literally me writting on reddit 😂😂😂😂😂
-51 karma 😅😂😂😂
Edit : I ain't that guy. But I post rage baits but gotta tell he's bettah than me
Cringe
@@ReverseRslash i know but I love it
second story: so this dude wants us to believe he met his wife when she was 18, got to know her, fell in love, dated her, got engaged and organized their wedding all the very same year?
S1. Keep very little contact, if the children visit their grandparents set a rule of not pushing to use the children as a tool to reconnect.
S2. Daughter is right to go NC.
S3. The woman needs to be checked into a drug abuse program before she's even considered for visiting the kids. Don't let her visit without supervision.
Wow. I’m totally not surprised the age gap marriage story, I’m not surprised they married months in. It’s almost like all these older men know the younger will leave them so they entrap them in marriage. It’s not as easy to leave. And you can still catch the younger in that honeymoon phase when they’re dating.
I’d ask them how long they thought I was evil. Because there’s no possibile way your parents can immediately switch from our precious son and siblings, our beloved brother, immediately to, evil disgusting rapist, immediately following one accusation with absolutely NO supporting evidence! In order for this to happen they must have already believed there was something very wrong with you and were just waiting for someone to make an accusation to validate their paranoia!
If the accuser was also someone they loved and trusted it would be understandable if they started to suspect it was true and to try and investigate the whole thing but the fact they immediately believed to the point they were willing to immediately throw you out, cut you off and break all contact makes it crystal clear that OP was guilty in his family’s eyes before he was even accused, they just didn’t know for what yet.
The first story is just sad for everyone.
But that second story, holy… like I’m not one to judge an age gap like that, cause frankly, once you are an adult that’s a person to person thing, but like given his new wife’s relationship with his daughter based off context, and based off how he reacted, it seems to me he was probably a shit person before and then saw an opportunity to satisfy his own desires and didn’t think of how that might hurt the people around him so I hope he doesn’t have a relationship with his daughter
Lost track of time a missed the opportunity to make things right with your daughter so you could have some playtime with your wife?! If I screwed up a relationship with someone I loved half as much as a parent should love their child as spectacularly as you screwed up yours and I got a second chance I’d be arriving at the location 2 hours early!
I love how in the 2nd story he told his daughter that he wished she was never born.
And then wonders why she wants nothing to do with him.
Talk about being clueless.
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Ah yes 18 year old is EXTREMLY mature and definetly doesnt have 6 years before her frontal cortex has fully grown
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First OP’s attitude towards his accuser is why women will continue to believe it’s ok to make false accusations. Also I don’t think it was wrong of the aunt to ask for him to forgive but definitely wrong for her to ask him to forget.
Story 3 you just gotta leave the wife bro, it’s that simple, who the fuck bullies their own child like that because of such a shit reason, and the wife was 100% cheating on the husband already I think it’s pretty obvious
S2 - No you should have mended your relationship with your daughter big time the moment you said what you did. But you should have not got involved with your daughters friend without taking it very slowly and talking at length with your daughter with the option of stopping if your daughter could not handle it, or not. I honestly don't know but stopping it I think would have been the best decision but again I just don't know. Worlds have collided and you stepped over a huge boundary. Also you are not a child molester or a groomer but just should have not got involved with her friend. That is just stupid comments. I get it. I am almost 54 and I still get 19 year old's trying to date me but I have not touched a woman for almost 10 years. For me women of any age will try to get with any guy no matter their age if they think you have money. When asked why I don't have a GF I tell women I am already sick and tired of my next gf's crap which is the truth.
If someone gets false accused of SA, post the false accusers full name, then full home addresses and their yt channels and finally their faces on social media and ignore the hate from other people you get, because false accusers dont deserve anonymity! PERIOD!!!
Story 3, "I didn't say anything as my wife and I never argue.", it's good that he didn't start a fight infront of the children and what a terrible wife/mother
That second story is heartbreaking. OP is an evil POS.
Story 2. Dude is claiming the 18y/o woman was a mature and knowledgeable adult on the same level as him, while he’s grooming the hell out of her
No one mentioned that the young wife might have screwed OP on purpose just to make him late for his meeting with his daughter? He's still a douche regardless, I mean he didn't care about his daughter until he heard she was getting married and then he wanted to make up in order so that he could walk her down the aisle but he blew that. Saying he wished she was never born pretty much blew any future chances, you can't walk back from that.
Story 2 op is basically a pedo and he abmits it by marrying someone bearly legal so he 100% had a relationship before hand, can see why his daughter is disgusted by him i an to
Personally I believe in forgiving and forgetting, forgive the people/person so they are released from my mind. Then forgetting about them and moving on with my life without them in it.
S1 nta keep nc
S2 just let go ,lc and suggest family therapy after a while and acknowledge how much you hurt her
S3 nta go lc until she catches some idea of the toxicity you choose not live with
Story 2. Question. Was the ex an ex before or after his relationship with his child bride started.
Story 1: Anybody accuse our sons or daughters of something like this the last thing me and my wife are going to do is just outright believe the accuser without solid evidence. Now if real evidence is presented then they can deal with the consequences on their own. Other than that prove it