The multiplayer suggestion is simply just against the From Software design philosophy. I understand that the multiplayer is atypical for a game, but they want each player to feel a sense of struggle and accomplishment. The summoning system is simply meant to provide players with assistance when they are struggling, it’s not meant to be a typical co-op play the game together experience.
You're right, but it's still a pain to use. Maybe they could at least make it smoother and faster. Sometimes it can take up to 2 or 3 minutes to find someone
It’s genuinely much easier to summon in this game than any previous and it’s that inexperience with the prior games that makes people think this title should adopt philosophies and mechanics from other games. It’s not a coop game it’s a game that you CAN play cooperatively. Back in the very first game it was truly random jolly cooperation and that’s the spirit of it.
Im 50/50 on the multi-player thing, as the way it is atm turns it into a semi limited resource making you do more things solo. But i get that some people wanna chill with their buddies. Altho, i feel torret is quite frankly OP enough as it is lmao, and armor having special abilities is a neat idea, but as a person who played every souls game out there, fashion souls for life.
What I find the most frustrated thing about coop is the inability to just have a lobby of buddies to free roam the game without having to deal with invaders. I’m not a competitive dude I don’t bother with pvp so naturally I suck. But man just having to leave a 4th slot for an unwanted invader c’mon now.
Multiplayer in any From Soft game is a privilege not a necessity, that’s almost completely evident by the way they stick invaders in your way to purposely disrupted your multiplayer experience. The way you describe coop makes it seem like an unbearable task but you quite literally forget your playing a souls game.
@@leemurtoad5186 you need specific items, you can only use it sometimes, mechanics become restricted/altered, parts of the map are disabled. It is very needlessly convoluted.
I've never had to RUclips any game anywhere near as much as I had to use it for Elden Ring RUclips should literally be paying FromSoft royalties for all the ad revenue they generated
It's a souls game. It's multi player works the way all fromsoft does. Any person knew this before the game even came out that this is how the multiplayer was going to be.
@@MrFartquad It's faster to highlight weapons you want to use then weapons you don't want to use. Also if there is an item you immediately need you can't use unless you are at a grace
The worst feeling ever is getting killed by an invading player whilst you were fighting a field boss with friends... and then you realize that was your last furlcalling finger remedy
I just want to be able to play with my friend. If one of us joins the other, then the session should last as long as we want. He dies, we wipe. I die, he's on his own till he dies. Let us use grace sites. That's my only wish.
the better Multiplayer is coming soon a mod called "Seamless Co-op" made by the creator of Blue Sentinel Anti-Cheat. ik this comment will get bury with other comments. if you're interesting in this pls go over to yt channel named "Luke Yui" there he demonstrate how the mod work
Even though I would settle for a favorites tab. I would be for load out tabs. Load out a b c. Something that will let me switch things up quickly it would also help when it comes to testing thing so you can make it one build another build and test it out in circumstances the time you save on swapping out your armor and all these other things just to test out certain things or how you feel. But most importantly what I would really really love in this game which is what should have been the Taylor's ability is transmogging things. Have your armor look like something but not have the stats. That way you can wear the best armor but have it looked like the armor you prefer to be. Same reason why you would have to do New game Plus to get copies of certain weapons make that what you need you need to get copies of that almond have it consumed.
I mean I can understand the Swimming mechanic being non existent since the game is essentially a SoulsBorne game, same with the multiplayer but I think having beacons that we constantly need to activate is a little excessive. The only things I really agree with is just the Crafting, Torrent, and literally the armors since the only option to customize armors in the game is by removing the capes which is pretty bad since it removes the details it has as well as lowers the stats of everything.
I wish the multiplayer was like dark souls 2 it went by your soul memory not by your lvl that way newer players would stop getting invaded by people that have decided not to lvl up and just go through the game get good items max there weapons out and come back and trash on new players just so they can farm furl fingers
An NPC questline would've been a life saver for me if it existed in the game. Now I gotta play new game ➕️ to find the things I missed and find NPC questlines I screwed up.
All I want is a journal that I can refer to about conversations had with NPC’s. It doesn’t need to give a direct objective or say it’s a quest but I’d definitely like a way to track conversations.
there doesnt need to be swimming to make it good.....not every game needs swimming.....just like swimming....not every game needs a favorites tab especially when its already all organized.....theres also a reason why you cant pick up all those things while in someone elses worlds.....ITS THEIR WORLDS AND NOT YOURS.....and doing so would really defeat the purpose of the game and let people skip a lot......and there dont need to be lobbies.....this aint CoD....piggybacking off of other previous points....THERE DOESNT NEED TO BE A FILTER OPTION IN EVERY GAME....not keeping track of quests adds extra adventure to the game....it doesnt ruin it plus can make the game easier than it should be.....the crafting system is just fine and is actually better than other games.....you dont need to upgrade something only used to run around on.....and to top it off....theres enough abilities and features in the game stop trying to add things where it isnt needed
I've played all of the darksouls series games. This is the easiest souls style game to date. If you're complaining about how hard it is or what could make it better maybe you should "Get gud" you scrubs.
About the multiplayer thing. All that tells me is that this game is not designed for you. The multiplayer in from software may be complicated but its always been unique. You are literally describing making it like everything other game and in my opinion thats not a good thing :/
I don't see swimming really adding anything to the game. Water is used as a natural limit to the map that you cannot proceed beyond, so now the map would need to be modified to prevent you from just swimming endlessly from the south of the Weeping Peninsula. Nevermind that swimming in plate armour seems like it'd be nothing short of a death sentence.
We've been wanting a good multi player function in these games for like 12 years now but it's a Japanese company maybe we need to send a email in Japanese because they're not understanding English.
The npc quest tab is a freaking must this game sucks as it is (only in that regard games a freaking legend) and nobody can tell me its a get good problem.. being good at video games isn't the same as taking notes on every npc you spoke to I dont want to have to write down a list of people I've spoken to just cause I can't play every day and when I come back to the game its annoying to not know where I've already started quests or not
from software has zero incentive to listen to anyone about game improvements. As far as they're concerned no one knows how to make a half-decent game, so maybe stop suggesting shit when you have no idea how to make a game.
As a hardcore RP player and a strong advocate for immersive features, I have to agree with the multiplayer idea. I love how you all have to work together to-Well work together but as maidenless as this sounds maybe keep game invites and setting lobbies with a simple invite button.
Totally agree with most suggestions but this is From we're talking about. Kinda impartial about the swimming though (it didn't play a major role in Sekiro until you could actually dive below the surface and Witcher 3 went a little too far with it)... I'd love some extra options with armor, either customizations or upgrades (Boc and adding removing capes doesn't cut it) or at a minimum the ability to alter colours , hide the helm or choose if it displays the tucked helm or not (I'll live with the clipping)... And finally some way to trigger both ashes of war instead of just one. PS. I'm one of those filthy solo players so can't comment on multiplayer other than to have an option to hide phantoms and messages if playing in online mode.
Swimming would be interesting. Being able to favorite weapons and other items so you can quickly find them in a favorites tab would be nice, also would be nice to have a "recently acquired items" tab that only shows the last 10 items you picked up. I feel the multiplayer is fine as is, as the game is mostly intended for single player with summoning other players to help being available for those having trouble, though I do agree it does make playing with a friend a bit of a hastle, so the proposed method of implementing a better truer co-op system is definitely interesting. Something as simple as a "Journal" that simply has the important cliffnotes from the last checkpoint in the quest would be nice. Example; "A woman named Irina asked me to deliver a letter to her father at Castle Morne somewhere to the south..." Immersive and conveys the objective without being obnoxious about it, and conveys no more than the game does already it'd just be in a tab in your map menu to access at any time, very helpful if you have the memory of a goldfish or have to stop playing for awhile(days/weeks/a month) and need to be reminded of what you were doing when last you played. I would love to be able to upgrade Torrent and slap some cool armor on him.
“Favorite weapons” my brother in Christ, there’s an item box for a reason if you have a problem with too many items just use the box it’s been in the games since at least ds1
Why would you want to force someone to have to craft doesn't seem like a thought out point. Personally didn't use it too much but having bone daggers for agroing because I just wanted to play with only a big smashy weapon they were invaluable just painful that I needed 3 thin bones per every 5 daggers and it got old really fast to have to go and kill sheep en mass every time I needed to restock
@Out of Patience, Got No Time. I did find that out in my next few playthroughs but thank you for the heads up and the bow bit is definitely a top teir tip especially when farming for bird feet
the multiplayer is perfect, the swimming wouldn't be usefull (like the crafting sistem), but the ability to filter or make favorite items would be very usefull
anyone who has a problem with making the multiplayer better is just a "if it was good enough for my grandpapi it's good enough for me!" boomer who needs to let go of the old days.
Play Zelda, is better suite for your kind. Dark souls 3 won GOTY and Bloodborne was nominated, and both of them had all the things you listed, it is not the game it is you.
@@P4TRICCS Because the things you proposed regarding multiplayer are garbage. Coop is an alternative for players not the rule, you are not meant to summon and if you do expect Invasions. Git Gud or don't play the game. Tired of whiners like you trying to warp the game into a vanilla RPG.
@@P4TRICCS yeah, sure "terrible game design" is what have made From Softwares game iconic. Good thing From Software won't listen to western audience, because of ppl like you.
The multiplayer suggestion is simply just against the From Software design philosophy. I understand that the multiplayer is atypical for a game, but they want each player to feel a sense of struggle and accomplishment. The summoning system is simply meant to provide players with assistance when they are struggling, it’s not meant to be a typical co-op play the game together experience.
You're right, but it's still a pain to use. Maybe they could at least make it smoother and faster.
Sometimes it can take up to 2 or 3 minutes to find someone
I think Elden ring is too big to use what the other souls games have done
the point is their "design philosophy" is needlessly convoluted
@@PurpleHazeGamer for me and my friends it literally takes seconds for our summon to appear if it doesn’t show up we always reset game
It’s genuinely much easier to summon in this game than any previous and it’s that inexperience with the prior games that makes people think this title should adopt philosophies and mechanics from other games. It’s not a coop game it’s a game that you CAN play cooperatively. Back in the very first game it was truly random jolly cooperation and that’s the spirit of it.
Im 50/50 on the multi-player thing, as the way it is atm turns it into a semi limited resource making you do more things solo. But i get that some people wanna chill with their buddies. Altho, i feel torret is quite frankly OP enough as it is lmao, and armor having special abilities is a neat idea, but as a person who played every souls game out there, fashion souls for life.
What I find the most frustrated thing about coop is the inability to just have a lobby of buddies to free roam the game without having to deal with invaders. I’m not a competitive dude I don’t bother with pvp so naturally I suck. But man just having to leave a 4th slot for an unwanted invader c’mon now.
Swimming… I‘ll pass. Unless it’s below a certain equip load, it just makes sense that you sink if you’re wearing a shitload of armor.
Multiplayer in any From Soft game is a privilege not a necessity, that’s almost completely evident by the way they stick invaders in your way to purposely disrupted your multiplayer experience. The way you describe coop makes it seem like an unbearable task but you quite literally forget your playing a souls game.
Exactly my thoughts. They obviously never played any darksouls games.
it being a souls game shouldn't mean that coop has to be needlessly convoluted
@@gregs9210 shut up bro you keep spamming this
@@gregs9210 its not convoluted, you put down a sign and the host uses an item to summon you
@@leemurtoad5186 you need specific items, you can only use it sometimes, mechanics become restricted/altered, parts of the map are disabled. It is very needlessly convoluted.
nothing sounds more horrific and anti-fun than an underwater Elden Ring boss fight
Your multiplayer idea fundamentally forgets the core reason it wasn't put in in the first place multiplayer is a reward
I've never had to RUclips any game anywhere near as much as I had to use it for Elden Ring
RUclips should literally be paying FromSoft royalties for all the ad revenue they generated
Ever play Destiny?
It's a souls game. It's multi player works the way all fromsoft does. Any person knew this before the game even came out that this is how the multiplayer was going to be.
The weapon favorite thing you can just store them in your bottomless chest at ANY grace...
That's not the same thing
@@PurpleHazeGamer okay, but why horde and not store everything you don't use??? Whats the point?
@@MrFartquad It's faster to highlight weapons you want to use then weapons you don't want to use. Also if there is an item you immediately need you can't use unless you are at a grace
The worst feeling ever is getting killed by an invading player whilst you were fighting a field boss with friends... and then you realize that was your last furlcalling finger remedy
I just want to be able to play with my friend. If one of us joins the other, then the session should last as long as we want. He dies, we wipe. I die, he's on his own till he dies. Let us use grace sites. That's my only wish.
the better Multiplayer is coming soon a mod called "Seamless Co-op" made by the creator of Blue Sentinel Anti-Cheat.
ik this comment will get bury with other comments. if you're interesting in this pls go over to yt channel named "Luke Yui" there he demonstrate how the mod work
If you dont craft in elden ring then you are limiting your utility and limiting your options. throw items are pretty useful.
Even though I would settle for a favorites tab. I would be for load out tabs. Load out a b c. Something that will let me switch things up quickly it would also help when it comes to testing thing so you can make it one build another build and test it out in circumstances the time you save on swapping out your armor and all these other things just to test out certain things or how you feel. But most importantly what I would really really love in this game which is what should have been the Taylor's ability is transmogging things. Have your armor look like something but not have the stats. That way you can wear the best armor but have it looked like the armor you prefer to be. Same reason why you would have to do New game Plus to get copies of certain weapons make that what you need you need to get copies of that almond have it consumed.
It's been a while since I disliked a video....
The multiplayer recommendations shows a total misunderstanding of what FROM games are. Absolute clown stuff.
I mean I can understand the Swimming mechanic being non existent since the game is essentially a SoulsBorne game, same with the multiplayer but I think having beacons that we constantly need to activate is a little excessive. The only things I really agree with is just the Crafting, Torrent, and literally the armors since the only option to customize armors in the game is by removing the capes which is pretty bad since it removes the details it has as well as lowers the stats of everything.
I wish the multiplayer was like dark souls 2 it went by your soul memory not by your lvl that way newer players would stop getting invaded by people that have decided not to lvl up and just go through the game get good items max there weapons out and come back and trash on new players just so they can farm furl fingers
I think they should add the ability to recolour/transmog the armors using Boc. That would give him more of a meaning and bring a good rpg feature.
Dye, stitching dyes. And making capes a accessory you collect to put on any armor.
Oh man do I wish we could give Torrent armor!
you can store anything you dont want to see in the storage chest..
An NPC questline would've been a life saver for me if it existed in the game. Now I gotta play new game ➕️ to find the things I missed and find NPC questlines I screwed up.
All I want is a journal that I can refer to about conversations had with NPC’s. It doesn’t need to give a direct objective or say it’s a quest but I’d definitely like a way to track conversations.
@@jeremyrm7 I agree
140 dislikes already lol
there doesnt need to be swimming to make it good.....not every game needs swimming.....just like swimming....not every game needs a favorites tab especially when its already all organized.....theres also a reason why you cant pick up all those things while in someone elses worlds.....ITS THEIR WORLDS AND NOT YOURS.....and doing so would really defeat the purpose of the game and let people skip a lot......and there dont need to be lobbies.....this aint CoD....piggybacking off of other previous points....THERE DOESNT NEED TO BE A FILTER OPTION IN EVERY GAME....not keeping track of quests adds extra adventure to the game....it doesnt ruin it plus can make the game easier than it should be.....the crafting system is just fine and is actually better than other games.....you dont need to upgrade something only used to run around on.....and to top it off....theres enough abilities and features in the game stop trying to add things where it isnt needed
Most important thing that game need is tab target on leggs of dragon ... Only having belly and head for close combat class is aids !
Multiplayer idea is trash
No it's not. Some points yes but it can definitely be improved to help two player progress at the same time.
SEAMLESS MULTIPLAYER MOD - multiplayer problem solved
no word on the shit job of porting it to pc/Keyboard&Mouse ? :(
map utilization on kbm sucks
shortcuts on kbm sucks
no aim for magic with a mouse
I've played all of the darksouls series games. This is the easiest souls style game to date. If you're complaining about how hard it is or what could make it better maybe you should
"Get gud" you scrubs.
About the multiplayer thing. All that tells me is that this game is not designed for you. The multiplayer in from software may be complicated but its always been unique. You are literally describing making it like everything other game and in my opinion thats not a good thing :/
I don't see swimming really adding anything to the game. Water is used as a natural limit to the map that you cannot proceed beyond, so now the map would need to be modified to prevent you from just swimming endlessly from the south of the Weeping Peninsula.
Nevermind that swimming in plate armour seems like it'd be nothing short of a death sentence.
We've been wanting a good multi player function in these games for like 12 years now but it's a Japanese company maybe we need to send a email in Japanese because they're not understanding English.
The npc quest tab is a freaking must this game sucks as it is (only in that regard games a freaking legend) and nobody can tell me its a get good problem.. being good at video games isn't the same as taking notes on every npc you spoke to I dont want to have to write down a list of people I've spoken to just cause I can't play every day and when I come back to the game its annoying to not know where I've already started quests or not
from software has zero incentive to listen to anyone about game improvements.
As far as they're concerned no one knows how to make a half-decent game, so maybe stop suggesting shit when you have no idea how to make a game.
As a hardcore RP player and a strong advocate for immersive features, I have to agree with the multiplayer idea. I love how you all have to work together to-Well work together but as maidenless as this sounds maybe keep game invites and setting lobbies with a simple invite button.
Of all the playable space you’re concerned with being able to swim further outside those boundaries?
Want a quest marker go play a different rpg I like not having quest marker life doesn’t give you a quest marker
You can already sort of favorite items by putting what you don't want/use in the chest as sites of grace, but I get why the feature would be useful.
Tge invasion system is just dumb. I'm sorry but to always fight a host and possibly 3 of his allies is just a gank.
No. No quest line, no quest UI, no quest anything. no quest help, the quest design is perfect, don't touch it.
Totally agree with most suggestions but this is From we're talking about.
Kinda impartial about the swimming though (it didn't play a major role in Sekiro until you could actually dive below the surface and Witcher 3 went a little too far with it)...
I'd love some extra options with armor, either customizations or upgrades (Boc and adding removing capes doesn't cut it) or at a minimum the ability to alter colours , hide the helm or choose if it displays the tucked helm or not (I'll live with the clipping)...
And finally some way to trigger both ashes of war instead of just one.
PS. I'm one of those filthy solo players so can't comment on multiplayer other than to have an option to hide phantoms and messages if playing in online mode.
Hiding phantoms and messages is literally just offline mode, why do you play online?
@@connorbailey1832 I don't, can't handle the constant screen litter everywhere and after the 100th "try finger" message at launch I got annoyed.
What is the weapon and ashes of war/weapon skill at 3:06 ?
That look like some Dragon Ball stuff and i want it !!
This guy is a foolish casual. Bleed Arrows are the greatest thing you can craft.
Add a Nemesis System in the game similar to Shadow of Mordor?
Swimming would be interesting.
Being able to favorite weapons and other items so you can quickly find them in a favorites tab would be nice, also would be nice to have a "recently acquired items" tab that only shows the last 10 items you picked up.
I feel the multiplayer is fine as is, as the game is mostly intended for single player with summoning other players to help being available for those having trouble, though I do agree it does make playing with a friend a bit of a hastle, so the proposed method of implementing a better truer co-op system is definitely interesting.
Something as simple as a "Journal" that simply has the important cliffnotes from the last checkpoint in the quest would be nice. Example; "A woman named Irina asked me to deliver a letter to her father at Castle Morne somewhere to the south..." Immersive and conveys the objective without being obnoxious about it, and conveys no more than the game does already it'd just be in a tab in your map menu to access at any time, very helpful if you have the memory of a goldfish or have to stop playing for awhile(days/weeks/a month) and need to be reminded of what you were doing when last you played.
I would love to be able to upgrade Torrent and slap some cool armor on him.
Just give us a water temple with a needed item then the whole map can have a little something
This video is low T energy. Just go play something else.
game is fine as it is
except for the multiplayer
“Favorite weapons” my brother in Christ, there’s an item box for a reason if you have a problem with too many items just use the box it’s been in the games since at least ds1
Nvm this whole video is bad takes, I’ll give them a view thi
Sensible points. Liked and subbed.
5:34 no don’t change that, if u do it’s not a fromsoft game
Try swimming with an armour. Lol
other than the quest log thing I think it's all really will though out upgrades
No...just...absolutely not -__-
I kinda just disagree
dodge from bloodborne
Why would you want to force someone to have to craft doesn't seem like a thought out point. Personally didn't use it too much but having bone daggers for agroing because I just wanted to play with only a big smashy weapon they were invaluable just painful that I needed 3 thin bones per every 5 daggers and it got old really fast to have to go and kill sheep en mass every time I needed to restock
You can kill an optional boss that lets you purchase bones instead of hunting, bows are also genuinely good for hunting “smaller” animals
@Out of Patience, Got No Time. I did find that out in my next few playthroughs but thank you for the heads up and the bow bit is definitely a top teir tip especially when farming for bird feet
I didn't watch this, I just came in to say I disagree. That is all.
This is the way.
The game is meant to be played solo against bosses and invaders, Co-op is an optional mechanic if you cant get gud, is not a reward.
Sorry you don't have friends. Maybe it's all the sweat?
@@RabbiRegan Dont project your shortcomings on me.
1: fun
No
the multiplayer is perfect, the swimming wouldn't be usefull (like the crafting sistem), but the ability to filter or make favorite items would be very usefull
I respectfully disagree with the multiplayer being perfect.
multiplayer, specially coop is a joke
From software won’t make changes that allow multiplayer to be enjoyable. It decreases the time we spent in the game that they drool over.
anyone who has a problem with making the multiplayer better is just a "if it was good enough for my grandpapi it's good enough for me!" boomer who needs to let go of the old days.
Story, better coop, not forced pvp, quest system and it would be goty.
Play Zelda, is better suite for your kind. Dark souls 3 won GOTY and Bloodborne was nominated, and both of them had all the things you listed, it is not the game it is you.
@@goliat56 it's the game. They were able to make this except coop in sekiro surprisingly but can't make in their main franchise...
@@P4TRICCS Because the things you proposed regarding multiplayer are garbage. Coop is an alternative for players not the rule, you are not meant to summon and if you do expect Invasions. Git Gud or don't play the game. Tired of whiners like you trying to warp the game into a vanilla RPG.
@@goliat56 not vanilla but at least a game that get rid of its terrible design choices instead of keeping it
@@P4TRICCS yeah, sure "terrible game design" is what have made From Softwares game iconic. Good thing From Software won't listen to western audience, because of ppl like you.