Thanks for this. I was considering putting my plates into a separate carrier from the soft 3a+ for my workshop. This gave me the answers I was looking for.
Safelife defense level 4 plates need to be used in conjunction with the level 3 soft armor to meet those level 4 standards, according to safelife defense. The plate is not stand alone level 4
@@rich70912 They aren't. They are ICW plates by design, so they will always be tested ICW soft armor. US Army uses a similar plate setup. Level IV ICW.
@@JamesSmullinstypically agree with you, but I don't know from a hit from that m2....it didn't go through the plate but plenty of cases out there of people out for good from blunt trauma from backside deformation of plates. That looks nasty
@@badmpg it would have to be a direct hit to the heart for that to happen. Any where else and it's going to hurt bad and maybe puncture a lung from a broken rib but that's easily survivable these days. Most blunt trauma deaths are to the head and it takes a really hard hit to do that.
@Whats Up? You realize most of the stuff in your house is made in china, or has china sourced parts. The device you used to write that is chock full of chinese parts.......
Ordered mine today! Had some account issues so I called in and they gave me a 10% off discount code (I had recently purchased their belt and liked it) and I was like "naaaa... wanna hook one of my favorite RUclips channels up, gonna use their code" ;) Good stuff man, keep it coming!
@Whats Up? 3 months ago you couldn't find it. I ordered my second set from LAPG when some popped up. Fortunately without incident, they used to have A horrible reputation and earned every bit of it.
@@chrisrobbins9058 If every put off panic buying ammo for two weeks supply would return and prices would drop drastically. Really is that simple. I bought a gun two months ago I haven't shot yet because I don't want to spend the stash I have.
been wearing there lvl 3A+ for over a year now for work, it takes a LONG time to break in, 12 hour shifts 4-5 days a week. i really noticed it broke in about 6 months down the road. Note that the 3A+ is kind of thick. a tip would be to get a different carrier. for $30 i got a safari land concealable carrier and it helped a lot to conceal it better and fit better.
I still need the Level 4 inserts, but I have the 3A+ "Tactical" vest and I really like it. I'm a big guy, so my options were limited, but I have no regrets on the decision even if I lose a lot of weight as planned.
@Invalid Characters thanks, man! I'm down somewhere north of 100lbs so far! I'm eating strictly Carnivore and I moved to AZ and got a pool so I can swim every day. It's been a huge help. I have AxSpA, so exercise is difficult, but I'm making progress! My vest fits even better now! The more I lose, the less it wants to move as I move, which is great. I still need to get some rifle inserts though, lol.
@@BO2R3aperGamIng I think they have a sizing guide on the website, but it's probably similar to your t shirt size. They have a new material out now that's even better for Level 3A+. I would definitely go that route. Looks like it's lighter and it's much more rigid under impact somehow, but still flexible. @TopshotDustin just did a video on it. I'll be switching as soon as they come up with a trade in program of some kind. Anyway, if you wear a 3XL t-shirt, probably the 3XL vest is good. Personally, I chose a size larger so I could wear mine over a light jacket if I wanted.
@@brandon1423 Spreading it over four months doesn't alter the cost. But yes, that's another downside. I'll likely go with AR500 though, as the poly armor won't stop M855 or M193. In addition to the fact that poly plates may or may not stop rounds that impact the edges.
@@itreehorsenumber3 Yikes ar500 is dangerous; Ive had a pair of my own and after about 1 shot from a pistol the spalling to catch the bullet is gone. It shoots shrapnel straight into your chin. Also heavy as hell, just go with ceramic plates that are nij certified, you can get them for just a little more and it is definitely worth it to spend more when your life depends on it.
@@benp.1710 Ceramic isn't really multi-hit capable, and can be ruined if it's dropped. I'd much rather be dealing with spall on follow up shots, than pass-throughs. Which is what someone wearing ceramic would have to look forward to. Wrapping the AR500 in a thin layer of kevlar (or equivalent), would solve the issue.
With it being in the plate carrier and having soft body armor behind it, the combo will absorb a lot of that energy, but still, it's gonna hurt. That's why I run steel plates with trauma pads behind them. Maybe more weight but there won't be any depressions. I'll be trading the chance of a depression for a chance of spalling, unfortunately there's pro's and con's to either set up.
It'd be real cool if someone could test the Lehigh Gucci gear Xtreme Penetrator and Xtreme Defender round against this. Liberty doesn't have velocity AND structural integrity AND mass retention like the Lehighs.
Le bits de screwdriver lack construction to penetrate UHWMPE fibers used in these type of vests. the Fort Scott Munitions bullet is better suited for that.
You are aware that safelite doesn't recommend that you overlap the vest on the sides. They say it is meant to be flush and butt back to back on the sides, if you have overlap it is to big.
i saw that and good to know i was worried mine has a very small gaps on both sides but i need to lose a few pounds anyway xD might get the little side panels
Cool that safelite teamed up with leviathan group to pay someone to push their product. Although it technically stopped the rounds, the wearer is still completely fucked.
The last I read on a forum, safe life admitted that their armor is either made in china or the materials are in china. Edit: Yep, Safelife admitted it on reddit
I would have to have a nuts and junk protector and 8 inch plate that goes down, imagine getting the junk blown up there's no point in living after that!
I have level 4 plates but I have a few vulnerable spots on the sides and if in a war zone type battle I would want something that drops down and protects the dik & ballz
i got mine about 3 weeks ago i was able to get everything sent in a few weeks but the tactical carrier was back ordered and just finally got sent out yesterday!
I just received this bundle but I'm seriously thinking about returning it while I still can. Once my money is deposited back I can easily replace it with something I better. I'd prefer traditional carrier and plates, even my og pointblank Molly flack sapi plates from 03&04 oif1&oif2. The tactical carrier with iiia side pads really sucks and will never fit right. So many options these days and you don't always get more bang for more buck$,$$$
You'll probably hop right back up the first couple seconds, enough to run to cover hopefully, and then the adrenaline wears off. That's when you'll need help moving.
At 5.8lbs each those ICW plates are useless. That means you’ll be wearing the weight of the 3A plus armor AND 11.6lbs to accomplish level 4. That just doesn’t make sense. Just buy another brand level 4 ceramic plates instead and be level 4 rated without the 3a stuff under it.
In theory yes, but it's hard to tell with all the different manufacturers and the different ways they make them. Also the NIJ won't test/ certify ICW plates.
Yes it works but it also has its issues. I will say you get what you pay for. I have the exact same kit and I spend five days a week working 12 hour shifts on duty in Southern California. I’m not sure short of it being military issue any gear that’s gonna be able to put up with that kind of abuse. Overall performance is good. Just needs to be tightened up a little bit. It’s also learning how to move around with that much armor on your torso.
Just a little error, MrG: Most """concealable""" armor isn't meant to be super low profile. It's mean to be worn underneath your uniform on duty so that you're still in compliance with dress code policies of most police, security, corrections, bounty hunters, etc.
My Hesco says it will take 8 shots of AP they are ceramic so they do better, I thought Safelife was ceramic on their plates. Either way they are good to stop a 30.06 they are more powerful then the .308
This fuckin guy. I had no idea your scar was full auto. As if that wasn’t enough you have my dream rifle being the G36 in full auto. I had to tape it down by the end of the video... good content as always.
I still think the FRAS is risky because there has been limited testing cold weather, falling to the ground, and basically abusing the armor in real world situations to ensure the tiles don’t displace or crack. Plus the cost of course.
I don't know which of his vids he's talking about where he toured the Safe Life facility in Vegas. But in this one, ruclips.net/video/PeMzY7WEQkM/видео.html , he tours the place and all I can see being assembled by Americans is some of the webbing and decorations, and maybe an outer carrier vest. (Admittedly, they would have a vested interest in not allowing him to show certain parts of their process for trade secret reasons.) But do we really have any evidence that any of the actual *armor* part of these is made here in the US?
Thanks for the review... very impressive with the point blank 306 black tips...Armour tech has come a long way... If I wasn't an Aussie and lived in the States I'd be sold I reckon. Anyhow, cheers and All the best of the festive season to you and yours. And I'm praying for reason to return to your political process.
Look at hesco or rma or any other company that actually makes gear that gets nij tested. Safelifes armor is extremely expensive and extremely heavy. All these reviews for their armor is paid for I believe these weigh 8 lbs per ft compared to most quality qear weighing 5.5 lbs per ft at the same price. I’d look at hesco first.
Most affordable body armor is. I bought some some "alumina" Chinese armor via LAPG because that is what was available.............. Look it up on RUclips it works. Materials to make your own rifle plate can be had at Home Depot or Lowes for $25 there is no effing reason a pair plates should cost $600 for A front and back set.
@@bullishtitan8223 No one produces a level IV Steel plate. You could get a standalone Level IV plate made of ceramic and more PE< but it might be too big to fit into their pocket..
I emailed safelife and asked if just the plates will stop m855 m193 and all 7.62x39 and they wouldn't shoot me straight so to speak I had in my mind that they may be good for the plate carrier I want
So you need the plate and carrier to work getting the lvl IV protection? “Why not just get the carrier (if someone needs the concealment option and then buy true “stand alone” lvl IV plates?” (Battle steel would be a little over $200 for both plates lvl IV,....hmmm) Is there some weight savings by using their plates?
Yeah they are slightly lighter/ thinner but at that point it depends on what plate your comparing it to. They would be significantly lighter and thinner compared to RMAs 1155s which are standalone but like I said it would depend on what plate your using.
The thing is, what chances do you think the need to actually have armor is? As someone that is thinking about purchasing armor that's the question I keep asking myself . Although I still try to live a happy life, try not to get drug down and depressed with all the BS I have got rid of the BS in my life.. Although I do quite well for myself I do not play the keep up with the Jones BS and have the need for materialistic things. My monthly bills use to be north of $1500. Vehicle payments, latest and greatest cell phone and service, cable, internet, you name it . I cut the cable cord and don't watch TV at all (except when visiting friends. My brain is no longer being slowly turned into mush), I rock a prepaid $40 cell phone that cost me $60 a month. That covers my entertainment and keeping up on what's going on. My good commuter vehicle is a 1997 with 290k miles (but can go cross country at the drop of a hat. I maintain and fix it myself. I've spent less than $150 on it in 3 yrs other than general maintenance).. I did splurge on myself a couple years ago and bought myself a 2013 Harley. Body armor to me is far different than most things. For instance, I just put together my first rifle with night vision. I have never hunted critters at night, I basically built it as a prep. If nothing happens I can still use the rifle and the night vision to go coyote hunting or go down to Oklahoma or Texas and shoot ferrel hogs. Body armor would only be a prep for something like a shtf situation.. Although I'm a "I'd rather have and not need, than need and not have" type, body armor is a very expensive prep that that money would be better spent elsewhere in my opinion. I'm also of the opinion that if anything does happen the less you expose yourself to others the greater your chance of survival will be. I see body armor as a ok I'm sitting really good on everything but armor prep. I have mixed feelings. Although I'm not looking for a fight, I'm getting ready for one the best I can. I realize not everyone is in my situation. But a friend for instance. Whenever I make a prep purchase like say a rifle or cases of ammo he is quick to say "it must be nice to be able to afford it" while sitting on his azz watching his big screen TV that he pays $200 a month for cable or while he sits in his pickup he is making $600 month payments on . Lol
@@lanejohnson7656 right on. Yea we gotta be thrifty. I had my brother come grab a coffee at my house instead if starbucks for a month. It came out to 93$. People don't realize how much they spend on non necessity items.
@@joshuagibson2520 Drives my family nuts that I'm not that materialistic (except when it comes to preps I guess..lol). You are right, even the little things we don't think of add up fast. I was amazed at the amount of money I use to spend running the bars, saved a bunch when I only drank at home, saved even more once I started rarely drinking at all. Don't get me wrong, still have my vices and a continuous change in progress. I do think it boils down to what you believe the chances of needs is. People with less will have to sacrifice more of modern conveniences. But if you ask me, people accustomed to less will have an advantage over most that are use to having more if something does go down
I'm shopping for good value plates and not sure about AR500 steel due to spalling. Wouldn't larger caliber rounds pushing out the back still kill you? That's a lot of force!
Well, I don't know about the plates but the select fire SCAR is pure entertainment!
Indeed
@@Mrgunsngearlove the show.
But how is everyone getting modern machine guns??
Not that I'm complaining...I wanna know what I need to do lol
@@talinra3160 They have a type 7 ffl with an sot. Way to much to explain for me but it's enough to look it up
@@ghost9431 thanks for the info
Will definitely look up🤘🍻🤘
@@talinra3160 cough up $30,000 and pass an EXTENSIVE BACK GROUND CHECK
Thanks for this. I was considering putting my plates into a separate carrier from the soft 3a+ for my workshop. This gave me the answers I was looking for.
The controlled bursts from the MG's demonstrate select fire definitely has its place and would be quite nice to have in a CQB situation.
Safelife defense level 4 plates need to be used in conjunction with the level 3 soft armor to meet those level 4 standards, according to safelife defense. The plate is not stand alone level 4
Yep says so on the plate he holds up to the camera. What's the deal? 🤷🏻♂️
As he mentions multiple times..
@@mattd9881 someone is a little late to the party haha
i’m late but what are the plates rated stand alone ?
@@rich70912 They aren't. They are ICW plates by design, so they will always be tested ICW soft armor. US Army uses a similar plate setup. Level IV ICW.
Imagine he was your dad... Taking you out for a range day. So many toys lol!
I wouldn't complain but I'd rather have Eric pettyway
Imagine if he was your girlfriends dad😳
And always has ammo to burn!!!
Wonder if he would adopt a older child lol
Sounds like you're fantasizing. Maybe, he'd give you a good spanking, Sonny..😂😂😂
6:44...I mean yes, no pass through, but that hit seems like it would still ruin your afternoon!
Broken ribs still beat a gapping hole in lungs and heart.
You will be down but certainly not out.
@@JamesSmullinstypically agree with you, but I don't know from a hit from that m2....it didn't go through the plate but plenty of cases out there of people out for good from blunt trauma from backside deformation of plates. That looks nasty
@@badmpg it would have to be a direct hit to the heart for that to happen. Any where else and it's going to hurt bad and maybe puncture a lung from a broken rib but that's easily survivable these days.
Most blunt trauma deaths are to the head and it takes a really hard hit to do that.
@@JamesSmullins don't forget the liver.
@@badmpg but that's outside the body armor anyway I believe.
I’m glad I ordered this bundle pack. It should be here within the next few days.
Any complaints? I am considering it
Not at all Sir I’m wearing it now for work ask we speak.
@@robosdrumworld still no complaints? I’m looking to get it for armed security.
@@dangerousfreedom5340 still no complaints Sir!!
@@robosdrumworldquestion I know the bundle says it comes with 3a+ panels ,can that stop 5.56 or 7.62
$1,000... Really makes you appreciate the value of those LAPG plates.
LAPG is chinesium with a thick cheat ring
yes their plates are really affordable!
It’s a bundle you get more with safelife. Lapg plates are really good
Even with the armor stopping the rounds, guarantee your shoulders played patty cake
😂
@Whats Up? Yup they are
@Whats Up? You realize most of the stuff in your house is made in china, or has china sourced parts. The device you used to write that is chock full of chinese parts.......
@@jeremyhoggatt972 None of those things are life saving devices.
@@Halal_Dan so he says in the video "American made"... But you're saying they're make in China?.. what gives bro?
Damn man you always gotta flex a bit with them machine guns!!! I would do the same... LOL Great video as always keepem coming brother.
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@@Mrgunsngear Amen to that!!!!
The after effects of the Scar were a joy to behold!
Ordered mine today! Had some account issues so I called in and they gave me a 10% off discount code (I had recently purchased their belt and liked it) and I was like "naaaa... wanna hook one of my favorite RUclips channels up, gonna use their code" ;) Good stuff man, keep it coming!
I just realized I went to high school with the ceo of SafeLifeDefense. Good dude. Awesome plates btw.
Cool story...Thx
Body armor sales have slowed apparently, hopefully ammo is next.
@Whats Up? oh yea RMA had 8 week lead time up from 2 to 4
@Whats Up? 3 months ago you couldn't find it. I ordered my second set from LAPG when some popped up. Fortunately without incident, they used to have A horrible reputation and earned every bit of it.
if you got channels like this getting free fucking ammo, you aint getting what you want for ammo any fucking time soon.
@@chrisrobbins9058 If every put off panic buying ammo for two weeks supply would return and prices would drop drastically. Really is that simple. I bought a gun two months ago I haven't shot yet because I don't want to spend the stash I have.
Sales have slowed because the waiting list is two months long. I'll try to buy a JPC carrier in the late spring.
You do rock. Consistently excellent work. I follow your recommendations religiously
Watching these tests never get old I thought about doing one myself be safe have a good day.
been wearing there lvl 3A+ for over a year now for work, it takes a LONG time to break in, 12 hour shifts 4-5 days a week. i really noticed it broke in about 6 months down the road. Note that the 3A+ is kind of thick. a tip would be to get a different carrier. for $30 i got a safari land concealable carrier and it helped a lot to conceal it better and fit better.
I still need the Level 4 inserts, but I have the 3A+ "Tactical" vest and I really like it. I'm a big guy, so my options were limited, but I have no regrets on the decision even if I lose a lot of weight as planned.
@Invalid Characters thanks, man! I'm down somewhere north of 100lbs so far! I'm eating strictly Carnivore and I moved to AZ and got a pool so I can swim every day. It's been a huge help. I have AxSpA, so exercise is difficult, but I'm making progress! My vest fits even better now! The more I lose, the less it wants to move as I move, which is great. I still need to get some rifle inserts though, lol.
@@unklemike5012 I’m considering buying I’m 5’10 198 pounds but I plan on losing a lot more weight at least to my 180s, what size would u recommend m?
@@BO2R3aperGamIng I think they have a sizing guide on the website, but it's probably similar to your t shirt size. They have a new material out now that's even better for Level 3A+. I would definitely go that route. Looks like it's lighter and it's much more rigid under impact somehow, but still flexible. @TopshotDustin just did a video on it. I'll be switching as soon as they come up with a trade in program of some kind.
Anyway, if you wear a 3XL t-shirt, probably the 3XL vest is good. Personally, I chose a size larger so I could wear mine over a light jacket if I wanted.
I'm jealous as hell of that G36, literally a dream gun of mine.
HK SL8. Comes with a boxy thumbhoke stock, but kits are available to make them look like a standard G36. My local gun store is selling one for $1500
So the hard plates are only level IV rated when worn ICW(In conjunction with) with level IIIA underneath
That’s pretty common
Hope you had a Merry Christmas Mike, God Bless
Same to you!
If the FRAS wasn't $2000+, I'd get me some.
@@brandon1423 Spreading it over four months doesn't alter the cost. But yes, that's another downside. I'll likely go with AR500 though, as the poly armor won't stop M855 or M193. In addition to the fact that poly plates may or may not stop rounds that impact the edges.
@@itreehorsenumber3 Yikes ar500 is dangerous; Ive had a pair of my own and after about 1 shot from a pistol the spalling to catch the bullet is gone. It shoots shrapnel straight into your chin. Also heavy as hell, just go with ceramic plates that are nij certified, you can get them for just a little more and it is definitely worth it to spend more when your life depends on it.
@@itreehorsenumber3 Stealth Armor Systems Hexar is better than FRAS at the same cost and not Chinese made.
These are my plates. I got them on sale. It seems like a good buy for less than $600.
@@benp.1710 Ceramic isn't really multi-hit capable, and can be ruined if it's dropped. I'd much rather be dealing with spall on follow up shots, than pass-throughs. Which is what someone wearing ceramic would have to look forward to.
Wrapping the AR500 in a thin layer of kevlar (or equivalent), would solve the issue.
Table taking rounds steals the show...Lol!!!
It may have stopped that round but I am sure that guy is a goner.
No shit.
Can u imagine a 3 in depression in chest
@@davidsherrill9121 hit so hard in the chest, I guarantee you that your shoulders will clap
With it being in the plate carrier and having soft body armor behind it, the combo will absorb a lot of that energy, but still, it's gonna hurt. That's why I run steel plates with trauma pads behind them. Maybe more weight but there won't be any depressions. I'll be trading the chance of a depression for a chance of spalling, unfortunately there's pro's and con's to either set up.
It'd be real cool if someone could test the Lehigh Gucci gear Xtreme Penetrator and Xtreme Defender round against this. Liberty doesn't have velocity AND structural integrity AND mass retention like the Lehighs.
Fort Scott 9mm and 357sig will go through the level 3A+
Le bits de screwdriver lack construction to penetrate UHWMPE fibers used in these type of vests. the Fort Scott Munitions bullet is better suited for that.
Mrgunsngear is my spirit animal. Love the content. That is all.
😁
You are aware that safelite doesn't recommend that you overlap the vest on the sides. They say it is meant to be flush and butt back to back on the sides, if you have overlap it is to big.
i saw that and good to know i was worried mine has a very small gaps on both sides but i need to lose a few pounds anyway xD might get the little side panels
Order completed
There's several more options for a lot less that do just as good or better job.
Like what?
Great vid--love your armor reviews!
That first round went right thru dude. You can see the hole
i really enjoy your content this year!! im HOPEING TO SEE MORE OF YOUR CONTENT IN 2021 HAVE A HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!
Happy new year!!
I love the casual, “and of course this SCAR is a machine gun, so we’ll try to keep to on it” ahhhh I love America..
Cool that safelite teamed up with leviathan group to pay someone to push their product. Although it technically stopped the rounds, the wearer is still completely fucked.
The last I read on a forum, safe life admitted that their armor is either made in china or the materials are in china.
Edit: Yep, Safelife admitted it on reddit
They are manufactured in Nevada.
Too me it sounds like putting 3-5 more soft plates under (if possible) would work rather well
Great informative content as usual
Thank u sir!
I would have to have a nuts and junk protector and 8 inch plate that goes down, imagine getting the junk blown up there's no point in living after that!
I have level 4 plates but I have a few vulnerable spots on the sides and if in a war zone type battle I would want something that drops down and protects the dik & ballz
Way cool thanks... you do enjoy yourself..
Man,it must be great to be Mrgunsngear. So many cool toys! 👍🏼🇺🇸✌
I cant even imagine the pain you would feel being hit with that 30/06
Ask the deers they hate it
You should test those soft armors with 5.7 too
These days, everything is rated for 5.7 it’s not making it through much. Unless it was made in a basement of China from paper plates.
@@jonboy9734 oh I didn't realize that, very well
t6b ammo 5.7 Will go right through the level 3A+
@@jonboy9734 Not really. They only shoot like SS197SR at it, which is easily stopped by IIIA..
Damn man that dock view is beautiful
1903 for the win
I ordered this safe life bundle last month, still waiting on it (plates were backordered), but this is really good info to know.
i got mine about 3 weeks ago i was able to get everything sent in a few weeks but the tactical carrier was back ordered and just finally got sent out yesterday!
Mrgunsngear, Based on your experience and in your opinion, what are your 2 top options for body armor regardless of cost? FRAS?
I just received this bundle but I'm seriously thinking about returning it while I still can. Once my money is deposited back I can easily replace it with something I better. I'd prefer traditional carrier and plates, even my og pointblank Molly flack sapi plates from 03&04 oif1&oif2. The tactical carrier with iiia side pads really sucks and will never fit right. So many options these days and you don't always get more bang for more buck$,$$$
5:43 The round hit so hard it knocked the image pixelated
I love Safe Life Defense products. Great quality. Need to purchase their duty belt.
I wear their duty belt daily. Love it!
But would need some help getting up and into the ambulance 😂😂😂
You'll probably hop right back up the first couple seconds, enough to run to cover hopefully, and then the adrenaline wears off. That's when you'll need help moving.
I love armour tests!
Looks like you've been cast for the next Viking mini series on the history channel. Get some tats and you could play Ragnar Lothbrook.
i just want to say that 1903 is a beautiful rifle
2:57 and 3:18 the labels do state "Assembled in China" at the very bottom.
That DOES make a difference.
www.reddit.com/r/QualityTacticalGear/comments/ezk89w/why_safelife_defense_is_bad_and_you_should_not/
@@ShortArmOfGod yet their 3a armor is NIJ certified per the NIJ website but we shouldn't trust their armor?
At 5.8lbs each those ICW plates are useless. That means you’ll be wearing the weight of the 3A plus armor AND 11.6lbs to accomplish level 4. That just doesn’t make sense. Just buy another brand level 4 ceramic plates instead and be level 4 rated without the 3a stuff under it.
Great stuff
I HOPE YOU HAD A MERRY CHRISTMAS MIKE AND YOUR FAMILY!!!!!!!!!
Ditto
So if you wear the plate as 'stand alone' would it be just lvl 3 protection?
In theory yes, but it's hard to tell with all the different manufacturers and the different ways they make them. Also the NIJ won't test/ certify ICW plates.
Yes it works but it also has its issues. I will say you get what you pay for. I have the exact same kit and I spend five days a week working 12 hour shifts on duty in Southern California. I’m not sure short of it being military issue any gear that’s gonna be able to put up with that kind of abuse. Overall performance is good. Just needs to be tightened up a little bit. It’s also learning how to move around with that much armor on your torso.
Just a little error, MrG: Most """concealable""" armor isn't meant to be super low profile. It's mean to be worn underneath your uniform on duty so that you're still in compliance with dress code policies of most police, security, corrections, bounty hunters, etc.
Great video
Just ordered thanks
What kind of world do we live that construction workers and mechanics are right to feel like they might have a need for this?
God bless us all.
i dont think very many people are going to be using black tip .308 rounds...so level 4 is really good against pretty much everything
absolutely
Great review
My Hesco says it will take 8 shots of AP they are ceramic so they do better, I thought Safelife was ceramic on their plates. Either way they are good to stop a 30.06 they are more powerful then the .308
Armour should be the FIRST thing that people buy!
You have a machine gun SCAR in 7,62x51.? Not exactly every Joe's arsenal.. Kudos my man! :D
This fuckin guy. I had no idea your scar was full auto. As if that wasn’t enough you have my dream rifle being the G36 in full auto. I had to tape it down by the end of the video... good content as always.
Finally ordered the FRAS using your code. Should have got one straight away when they where 1,800.
I still think the FRAS is risky because there has been limited testing cold weather, falling to the ground, and basically abusing the armor in real world situations to ensure the tiles don’t displace or crack. Plus the cost of course.
@@bobdole6416 I have conventional armor as well. I figure this stuff is like dragon skin 2.0 and a bit better than IIIa next to the night stand.
nice
You should test American Blast Systems 1.6 NIJ ICW Lightweight Level III Plate.
The plates said “made in China.”
Well that did it for me.
And at the end he said made in Vegas
Assembled in China.
Sold by a company based in Las Vegas.
@@texasbeast239 "Alumina" look it up.
I don't know which of his vids he's talking about where he toured the Safe Life facility in Vegas. But in this one, ruclips.net/video/PeMzY7WEQkM/видео.html , he tours the place and all I can see being assembled by Americans is some of the webbing and decorations, and maybe an outer carrier vest. (Admittedly, they would have a vested interest in not allowing him to show certain parts of their process for trade secret reasons.)
But do we really have any evidence that any of the actual *armor* part of these is made here in the US?
So you've tested a bunch of armor. Who are you spending your money with?
Thanks for the review... very impressive with the point blank 306 black tips...Armour tech has come a long way... If I wasn't an Aussie and lived in the States I'd be sold I reckon. Anyhow, cheers and All the best of the festive season to you and yours. And I'm praying for reason to return to your political process.
Awww poor shooting table! Fun video.
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Cool, will definitely use that coupon code. 10% off is pretty good for that price an item.
Look at hesco or rma or any other company that actually makes gear that gets nij tested. Safelifes armor is extremely expensive and extremely heavy. All these reviews for their armor is paid for I believe these weigh 8 lbs per ft compared to most quality qear weighing 5.5 lbs per ft at the same price. I’d look at hesco first.
Long LIVE the Republic
I don't think you want to have a fight with the guy carrying a Scar! Damn that shows the power really well.
Indeed
@@Mrgunsngear Loving you video's brother, keep them coming and have a healthy and safe new year.
Jesus. Hope its not the wifes table lol. You tore that bad boy up lol . Keep em comin Mike!!! Respect
The hard plate sits too low to wear it properly
I love your content, thanks. Do you have a Rumble account? I don´t want to use YT anymore.
That sticker said assembled in CHINA , WTH, SMH.
Most affordable body armor is. I bought some some "alumina" Chinese armor via LAPG because that is what was available.............. Look it up on RUclips it works. Materials to make your own rifle plate can be had at Home Depot or Lowes for $25 there is no effing reason a pair plates should cost $600 for A front and back set.
Oh no! So is 90% of everything you use. Wah.
@@itskidkelly speak for yourself.
@Bb King Really, from an account that literally is 1 day old . 😂😂🤣🤣😂😂 idiot
www.reddit.com/r/QualityTacticalGear/comments/ezk89w/why_safelife_defense_is_bad_and_you_should_not/
I just got this kit last week
This is
The way.
In your opinion is the plate positioned a bit low in the carrier for maximum effectiveness?????? Like does it sit low to the top of sternum????????
you can adjust the height
@@Mrgunsngear awesome thanks
@@Mrgunsngear sorry but I have another question. What's your opinion on using a true level 4 steel plate in place of the level 4 icw it comes with?
@@bullishtitan8223 No one produces a level IV Steel plate. You could get a standalone Level IV plate made of ceramic and more PE< but it might be too big to fit into their pocket..
@@BuffRANGE thank you, im new to all this so forgive me if my questions are a bit dumb. I'm a good shot though lol
I carry appendix. Does the vest inhibit your draw? or is it a training thing?
I’m probably gonna pass on these but the video was great just off the cool tools we got to see!!!👍
Seems like ur table is pretty bullet proof as well lol... nice review!!
I emailed safelife and asked if just the plates will stop m855 m193 and all 7.62x39 and they wouldn't shoot me straight so to speak I had in my mind that they may be good for the plate carrier I want
You have way too much fun when you test armor. You look like a kid at Christmas.😄
100%
Nice
good entertainment for sure!
How about a video of your boxers goofing off? I saw them in the background of an older video. It will be your most viewed video of all time!
Wat, no test with the 240 Bravo?
So you need the plate and carrier to work getting the lvl IV protection?
“Why not just get the carrier (if someone needs the concealment option and then buy true “stand alone” lvl IV plates?” (Battle steel would be a little over $200 for both plates lvl IV,....hmmm)
Is there some weight savings by using their plates?
Yeah they are slightly lighter/ thinner but at that point it depends on what plate your comparing it to. They would be significantly lighter and thinner compared to RMAs 1155s which are standalone but like I said it would depend on what plate your using.
I struggle to save $500 for bangs. It's even harder to drop a chunk like that on armor.
The thing is, what chances do you think the need to actually have armor is? As someone that is thinking about purchasing armor that's the question I keep asking myself .
Although I still try to live a happy life, try not to get drug down and depressed with all the BS I have got rid of the BS in my life.. Although I do quite well for myself I do not play the keep up with the Jones BS and have the need for materialistic things. My monthly bills use to be north of $1500. Vehicle payments, latest and greatest cell phone and service, cable, internet, you name it . I cut the cable cord and don't watch TV at all (except when visiting friends. My brain is no longer being slowly turned into mush), I rock a prepaid $40 cell phone that cost me $60 a month. That covers my entertainment and keeping up on what's going on. My good commuter vehicle is a 1997 with 290k miles (but can go cross country at the drop of a hat. I maintain and fix it myself. I've spent less than $150 on it in 3 yrs other than general maintenance).. I did splurge on myself a couple years ago and bought myself a 2013 Harley.
Body armor to me is far different than most things. For instance, I just put together my first rifle with night vision. I have never hunted critters at night, I basically built it as a prep. If nothing happens I can still use the rifle and the night vision to go coyote hunting or go down to Oklahoma or Texas and shoot ferrel hogs. Body armor would only be a prep for something like a shtf situation.. Although I'm a "I'd rather have and not need, than need and not have" type, body armor is a very expensive prep that that money would be better spent elsewhere in my opinion. I'm also of the opinion that if anything does happen the less you expose yourself to others the greater your chance of survival will be. I see body armor as a ok I'm sitting really good on everything but armor prep. I have mixed feelings. Although I'm not looking for a fight, I'm getting ready for one the best I can.
I realize not everyone is in my situation. But a friend for instance. Whenever I make a prep purchase like say a rifle or cases of ammo he is quick to say "it must be nice to be able to afford it" while sitting on his azz watching his big screen TV that he pays $200 a month for cable or while he sits in his pickup he is making $600 month payments on . Lol
@@lanejohnson7656 right on. Yea we gotta be thrifty. I had my brother come grab a coffee at my house instead if starbucks for a month. It came out to 93$. People don't realize how much they spend on non necessity items.
@@joshuagibson2520 Drives my family nuts that I'm not that materialistic (except when it comes to preps I guess..lol).
You are right, even the little things we don't think of add up fast. I was amazed at the amount of money I use to spend running the bars, saved a bunch when I only drank at home, saved even more once I started rarely drinking at all. Don't get me wrong, still have my vices and a continuous change in progress. I do think it boils down to what you believe the chances of needs is. People with less will have to sacrifice more of modern conveniences. But if you ask me, people accustomed to less will have an advantage over most that are use to having more if something does go down
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I'm shopping for good value plates and not sure about AR500 steel due to spalling. Wouldn't larger caliber rounds pushing out the back still kill you? That's a lot of force!
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Those vest are excellent in the the 3A + version. As far as plates I have 3A plus steel.