The Best Body Armor For Civilians

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  • The Best Body Armor For Civilians
    Why would a civilian ever need body armor? What type of body armor is best for you? Chadd takes you through all of the considerations you should make before purchasing body armor for yourself.
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  • @383corvette1
    @383corvette1 2 года назад +479

    If the government tells you that you don't need it, or they want to regulate it. You need it.

  • @BUZZKILLJRJR
    @BUZZKILLJRJR 2 года назад +878

    If cops and the military need it then we need it. That's how the second amendment works. Thank you for your service brother! Subbed!

    • @tymz-r-achangin
      @tymz-r-achangin Год назад +19

      Well said

    • @jimmymcgill5572
      @jimmymcgill5572 Год назад

      Facts! Enough of this sheep mindset the govt/police are more important than us! It’s the opposite

    • @coolbreeze2.0-mortemadfasc13
      @coolbreeze2.0-mortemadfasc13 Год назад +3

      You need nukes?

    • @TexasReaper92
      @TexasReaper92 Год назад +33

      @@coolbreeze2.0-mortemadfasc13 No one needs nukes

    • @mr.joshua6818
      @mr.joshua6818 Год назад +20

      ​@@TexasReaper92 but what if I REALLY want a nuke? For home/personal defense of course...

  • @krist7697
    @krist7697 2 года назад +204

    My dad told me growing up it’s better to have and not need than to need and not have . I have lived by that .

    • @kenofken9458
      @kenofken9458 2 года назад +6

      That applies to everything but condoms!🤣

    • @Mikehood96
      @Mikehood96 7 месяцев назад

      yep, one of the best JKF quotes I've ever heard. 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

    • @domework23
      @domework23 6 месяцев назад +2

      THAT'S A FACT!!!!!

    • @M447DT
      @M447DT 6 месяцев назад +2

      Very smart words to live by 👍

    • @michaelleprieur7720
      @michaelleprieur7720 6 месяцев назад +3

      Better to be a warrior in the garden than a gardener in a war 🤷

  • @battleborn2002
    @battleborn2002 2 года назад +523

    If you think you need body armor, you do. Doesn't really matter what anyone else thinks.

    • @Fng_1975
      @Fng_1975 2 года назад +48

      Even if you don’t, with body armor, it’s better to have and not need, than need and not have.

    • @FishHuntFreedom
      @FishHuntFreedom 2 года назад +2

      💯

    • @michaelbiniakewitz2329
      @michaelbiniakewitz2329 Год назад +1

      I’m inclined to agree with you but in grand scheme of things if dude is not assigned to combat and is a civilian he’s most likely inviting a world of bad into his life

    • @Fng_1975
      @Fng_1975 Год назад +24

      @@michaelbiniakewitz2329 How is purchasing body armor inviting bad into your life?

    • @timothyqueen7286
      @timothyqueen7286 Год назад +1

      @@Fng_1975 This is true, but only if you are wearing it.

  • @ralphholiman7401
    @ralphholiman7401 11 месяцев назад +77

    The first time I regretted giving away all of my body armor as I retired, was the first time I went to a public range in twenty five years. And, the whole time, watching some of the gun handling and shooting, wishing I was wearing some.

    • @tomhickman1006
      @tomhickman1006 10 месяцев назад +3

      Yes sir, I've almost been hit by a deflected bullet when putting out targets by another shooter not waiting who just arrived.

    • @Florida_Man_Robb
      @Florida_Man_Robb 29 дней назад

      Or range qualification for retired law enforcement. It’s scary.

  • @libertysignandlighting
    @libertysignandlighting 2 года назад +179

    The most straightforward dude in every subject matter. Much appreciated 🇺🇸

  • @wadehampton1737
    @wadehampton1737 2 года назад +22

    How many train for pelvic/head shots and avoid training center mass because of the prevalence of body armor?

    • @pisom4314
      @pisom4314 2 года назад

      clint smith quote "shoot them in the dick!!" they will go down!!!

  • @jimsturt
    @jimsturt 2 года назад +304

    The answer is yes. It was a purchase I made during the 2020 "Summer of Love". Who would have thought we'd ever live in a country where anarchists can roam the streets and burn down houses?!

    • @T20-c8f
      @T20-c8f 2 года назад +18

      My man… samesies, I bought my first set of armor, and figured out a way of carrying my Glock 34 with a streamlight and extra mag daily over my Glock 26 that summer. My wife and I moved to florida in April and this damn hurricane has made me add more and more to my bug out plan. Felt great bringing in 27 firearms and 5k rounds of ammo into a hotel in 7 trips with no one noticing. But I felt like crap not having a jet boil to cook our food with in our hotel when Uber eats and the whole town shut down. Point is you never know what you may need until you need it. If you have the time and the money make it a priority to be prepared. I have a grey ghost apparition backpack I can put my AR, a backup Glock 2 extra 30 rounders, with a coupled 30 rounders in the pipe ready to go and some tourniquets and I fak (extra batteries for everything) and that is pretty awesome but shoot this hurricane made me realize a lot. That bag is great for road trips and going into hotels so I can always have a rifle (I will always have it with me). But that backpack doesn’t do shit about being hungry or cold or needing to help a family member stay dry and warm. I’m reevaluating everything right now and I really need to add more of the less sexy (MK18 with glocks on glocks and combat loadout to more of a how am I gonna eat and be able to sleep type set up)

    • @timg7627
      @timg7627 2 года назад +2

      @@T20-c8f Great reply. I hope everything is going well for you after Ian.
      It’s an interesting perspective when the shit actually hits the fan. The 27 firearms you carried can’t help much in many situations.
      Food, water and shelter are also extremely high priorities when things go sideways.
      Glad you made it out ok and have the ability to already be addressing the details where you can improve. 👊

    • @JewTubeSux
      @JewTubeSux 2 года назад

      "Anarchists." Lol. Those are not "anarchists."
      Considering "democide" (death by government) has been the #1 cause of death for the last 2000+ years, blaming fake anarchists (closet commies) for that is weak. They don't even know what bathroom to use, so them wielding the word "anarchist" is also weak.
      Statism is the disease of tyranny masquerading as it's own cure. People should be responsible for their own liberty/security. Government is historically always wielded by the ultra wealthy elite...
      Yes, body armor is extremely handy.

    • @kenofken9458
      @kenofken9458 2 года назад

      So did you actually come under fire from any of these marauding anarchists, or even see one in real life vs on some Fox coverage?

    • @jdl2180
      @jdl2180 2 года назад +8

      @@T20-c8f you can't shoot a hurricane.

  • @raybrendaglaze2019
    @raybrendaglaze2019 11 месяцев назад +38

    We the civilian class appreciate your knowledge and teachings. A person or group of individuals is only as good as their coach / coaches. You are one of many that have put your life on the line for us to live the lives we have. You are loved and appreciated beyond measure. Thank you!

  • @BUDs253
    @BUDs253 2 года назад +7

    Ask Ukrainian people, do they need it. The answer is - YES.

  • @rodschrader6379
    @rodschrader6379 2 года назад +22

    Just like a firearm. Better have it and not need it , than to need it and not have it .

  • @SeanMurphy00
    @SeanMurphy00 2 года назад +51

    I made the mistake of purchasing plates last year before I did any research. I bought steel plates and I ended up upgrading to polyethylene a few months ago. I will say the nice thing about steel is I wear them when I’m hiking and running for the extra workout. Haha hopefully I’ll never need them but I think there’s a pretty good chance I will since I live in commiefornia.

    • @glidewell19
      @glidewell19 2 года назад +16

      Steel last forever, poly last 5 years. Pro and cons to both.

    • @rebel_scum_
      @rebel_scum_ 2 года назад +3

      that's ok man we all make mistakes! I did the same thing when I got into armor a few years back lol.

    • @POSTMASTER_Rion-Donald_Harmon.
      @POSTMASTER_Rion-Donald_Harmon. 2 года назад +6

      Premier body armor has 50 dlar spall liners.

    • @rebel_scum_
      @rebel_scum_ 2 года назад +7

      @@glidewell19 your better off not wearing any armor if steel is the only option. Poly plates have "expiration dates" because they're required to with government regulation. Kinda like medication. Unless your super hard on your plates they will be just fine for many years.

    • @krisgee9553
      @krisgee9553 2 года назад +12

      @@rebel_scum_ saying better off with no plates than wearing steel is like saying don't bother carrying if all you have is a .22. I'd much rather deal with frag than a hole in the chest. The coatings work to some degree to mitigate spawl and the carrier too. Not the best scenario but certainly better than nothing. Plus steel plates are backup for someone else, rage targets when you upgrade, or a weight vest for training as mentioned. Better options today as armor has gotten more popular. You can get cheap level IV nowadays.

  • @amshootez
    @amshootez 2 года назад +19

    Fuck yes we need armor. Even if just for training, level III is mandatory (& should be) in most tac-rifle classes, & IIIA for tac-pistol. Train like you fight, fight like you train.

  • @theodorebennett7938
    @theodorebennett7938 Год назад +50

    I am really taking a liking to this dude and his content. As a former soldier, I wrongly thought all SEALs were arrogant bastards, but Chad seems really down to earth and comes across as a fine fellow. The takes on our "government's excesses is so on target it makes all the sense in the world. More please!

    • @jctedsap
      @jctedsap Год назад +3

      I used to have a neighbor that was a former Seal and a very humble guy but not someone to mess with.

    • @leechapa7279
      @leechapa7279 11 месяцев назад

      I knew some seals too.

    • @GTRNights
      @GTRNights 9 месяцев назад

      This one is down to earth and a fine fellow. He's just gone off the conspiracy theory far right wing nutcase cliff unfortunately. Gonna be 80 and have trenches with razorwire built around his house with spotlights, and a minefield, thinking the gov is coming for him. The same gov that sent him after people. Oh the irony.

    • @burnban3047
      @burnban3047 7 месяцев назад

      when you don't live life in ego ridden "professions" its easy to learn that every big "hobby" (as in people make their jobs their personality) that comes from said professions always have the D-Bag bastards. Its another needed "Grown Up" thing to understand these days.

    • @raqamsonofmanasseh
      @raqamsonofmanasseh 3 месяца назад +2

      We're not all arrogant. Former Frog Doc, that just did his job. Now I'm a professional Beach Bum.

  • @finfish260
    @finfish260 Год назад +45

    I used to manufacture Ball Ceramic & Polyurethane plate products in TN. The ceramic balls were made by Coors in Golden Colorado. These products were not fragile and would not crack like the solid ceramic plates. After seeing the results at the test range, I'm a firm believer in ceramic protection. However, I run with Duritium plates only because they fit in my carrier and conform to my body better. LOL - like you said, I'm more nervous at the gun range than I am at the grocery store. Be aware of your surroundings and stay safe in this crazy time.

    • @MrJohnnyDistortion
      @MrJohnnyDistortion 5 месяцев назад

      Were the ball ceramic & polyurethane plates manufactured for body armor?

  • @Swamp-Fox
    @Swamp-Fox 2 года назад +30

    I got steel plates a couple of years ago. They are definitely heavy & uncomfortable, but better than nothing!

  • @contractor556
    @contractor556 2 года назад +22

    “Get fragged in the eyes and the neck, those are placed you do not want to get fragged at” ! Very true

  • @gschimbeck
    @gschimbeck 10 месяцев назад +54

    The rubberized coating on the steel plate helps with the Spalding and fragmentation. It is a major improvement on steel

    • @andydriever3446
      @andydriever3446 6 месяцев назад +6

      Companies now are coating them with Kevlar also. And the plates are getting much lighter, 7.5 lbs in some cases.

    • @plazmaballs1024
      @plazmaballs1024 4 месяца назад +1

      😂 ok!

    • @jamessouza7065
      @jamessouza7065 3 месяца назад +1

      I have wondered what folding the edges inward so that any fragments from hitting plate eventually collide with a barrier of steel as the coatings get blasted away.

    • @PoliticallyInsensitive
      @PoliticallyInsensitive 2 месяца назад +4

      ​​@@jamessouza7065 Look up some of the testing videos. The only "coatings" that get blasted away in a few rounds are the ones people apply themselves.
      Granted, if you're taking multiple magazines worth of bullets to the plate you've got MUCH bigger issues. The point is that you don't need to worry about the manufacturer coating.

  • @justinriley8651
    @justinriley8651 2 года назад +11

    there should not be a law about owning body armour. it's your business.

    • @ryanmcmuffi6137
      @ryanmcmuffi6137 8 дней назад

      I live in canada in some provinces you need a license to own body armor but I live in sask so I can own it without a license

    • @justinriley8651
      @justinriley8651 8 дней назад

      @ryanmcmuffi6137 that's definitely nobody's business what you own in my opinion. you have a god given right to defend yourself. it's not given to you by another man!

  • @pastorbill7374
    @pastorbill7374 11 месяцев назад +5

    Outstanding HOLD THE LINE OF FREEDOM INTEGRITY JUSTICE TRUTH AND HONOR AT ANY COST EVERY VETERAN ACROSS AMERICA REMEMBER YOUR OATH TO GOD AND COUNTRY TO DEFEND THIS GREAT NATION AGAINST ALL ENEMIES FOREIGN OR DOMESTIC STAND UNITED AS ONE

  • @GuyFawkes-cv9dc
    @GuyFawkes-cv9dc Год назад +83

    I’m a former police officer I have 35 years of firearms training and as a trainer, I also over the 35 years have washed the progression of body armor improve over that time, and I would like to call myself a novice or well educated body armor person. the same with firearms I have the same years of training, and I have to say that you are one of the most informative knowledgeable people I have found on RUclips. Anyone who comes across your channel and is thinking about body armor should follow your lead. As I want your video I know everything you’re gonna say ahead of time with a few surprises that I did not know here in there. I’d like to congratulate you for educating this old dog with some new tricks. Good job man.

    • @deanbraden7695
      @deanbraden7695 11 месяцев назад +2

      How many times did you ask “got any weapons?” 😢

    • @dukenukem69
      @dukenukem69 11 месяцев назад +4

      ​@@deanbraden7695he probably stole a good amount of them

    • @bunk95
      @bunk95 8 месяцев назад

      You are being kept as a slave that was marketed as a police officer?

    • @angryjarhead
      @angryjarhead 7 месяцев назад

      @GuyFawkes-cv9dc Why do you cop nerds get on military vet channels and bring up being a cop. You're not a warfighter. You're actually more cowardly than the average citizen. Get lost, clown.

  • @rathgarredbeard4808
    @rathgarredbeard4808 11 месяцев назад +13

    You can make very effective body armor out of a fiber glass welding blanket and a can or 2 of fiber glass resin for around $30 bucks. I watched a video where a guy did just that and it easily stopped a .22 long rifle, 38 caliber, 9mm, .45 caliber, 12 gauge double 00 buckshot and even a 10mm round from a Glock.

    • @SpecOpsGear
      @SpecOpsGear 11 месяцев назад +2

      None of those are rifle rounds.

    • @rathgarredbeard4808
      @rathgarredbeard4808 11 месяцев назад +10

      @@SpecOpsGearI never said they were...

  • @paullee5380
    @paullee5380 2 года назад +90

    I run RMA class 4 ceramics as the price point is easier to justify for your average every day white collar civilian. I really like Agilite's philosophy when it comes to body armor for civilians- its basically like a reserve parachute. You will rarely ever have to use it and chances are that you'll go through your entire life never having to use it, but if you find yourself in a seriously bad spot, having access to it can really save your life.

    • @davidedwards8940
      @davidedwards8940 Год назад +6

      Just like a gun hopefully

    • @delopez1966
      @delopez1966 Год назад +2

      I've got the Agilite K19 plate carrier with Spartan Armor steel plates. Thinking of upgrading to Shot Stop Duritiun plates.

    • @drunknmarxist
      @drunknmarxist Год назад +5

      Better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it!

    • @UNBELIEVABLE618
      @UNBELIEVABLE618 Год назад

      Agilite gear is the way to go i wear it daily

    • @jtaylorb88
      @jtaylorb88 Год назад

      Not so sure about them these days with their plate failure and how they didn't even want to pull the effected lots.

  • @jaydemay7
    @jaydemay7 2 года назад +13

    Side plates are a must. A junctional hit is hard to treat in the field.

  • @pmcgns10
    @pmcgns10 Год назад +11

    It’s crazy you said that brother, the Army always told us “Better to have it & not need it, than need it & not have it!” Constantly when we would wonder why the hell we we’re taking snow gear to the field in July…. We’ll we were 10th Mountain that’s why! Lol I hated most lessons the Army taught until I was out, then I realized how much they had instilled into me. Hooah, Climb to Glory!!

  • @allan4800
    @allan4800 10 месяцев назад +2

    Unfortunately, Shot Stop's website has a pop-up that says they are not taking orders until further notice. 😞

  • @FTW1374
    @FTW1374 2 года назад +19

    With this fing government we need body armor more than ever!

  • @jimmydigriz362
    @jimmydigriz362 6 месяцев назад +2

    how can you recommend Shotstop plates?! they've been found guilty of fraudulent quality claims and using sub par materials from China by the DHS, their plates failed repeatedly in multiple cases, the company has been dissolved.
    but even your own test, the video you refer to, clearly shows this is at best a Level 3A plate, despite you trying to ignore the failures. I honestly can't believe you sold out for some free plates in that video, surely they paid something extra.
    I hope you take these two videos down and redo the armor segment with a new one, recommending something that won't fail on your audience, if they decide to rely on it for saving their lives. then again, maybe you won't. just because you're a former high-speed boy and someone thousands of people listen and look up to, it doesn't mean you can't also be a shameless grifter and a shill (a Navy Shill? get it?). I guess we'll see.

  • @tinmanspartan7551
    @tinmanspartan7551 2 года назад +12

    Better to have and not need, than to need and not have. Applies to most everything in life.

  • @gunslinger91mcgillicuddy52
    @gunslinger91mcgillicuddy52 2 года назад +10

    Your channel is blowing up my feed all of the sudden. Love that I found it! This means the algorithm is popping for you! Hopefully you see a surge in growth man!

  • @angusdog22
    @angusdog22 6 месяцев назад +6

    “Better to have it and not need it….. Then to need it and not have it”.
    - Words to Live by

  • @WildernessMedic
    @WildernessMedic 10 месяцев назад +1

    Idk if it's just my body type or mechanics, but no matter how strong I am plate carries fuck my shit up. I spent $3000 on Hesco 4800 plates just to have lighter ones with the protection I wanted, and they were worth every penny.

  • @williamperry118
    @williamperry118 2 года назад +5

    I bought Predator Armor AR650 steele plates with a kevlar coating for anti spalding it's heavy but it's an NIJ Level 3+

    • @cc-vg4ed
      @cc-vg4ed 2 года назад +1

      Keep in mind, technically there is not a "NIJ 3+." For hard armor there is only NIJ level III and IV. III+ was developed from manufacturers and rounds completely depend on testing from that manufacturer.

  • @bds123087
    @bds123087 2 года назад +5

    It’s perfect for when your government turns tyrannical

  • @stolnpckup
    @stolnpckup 2 года назад +3

    I would rather have it and not need it. Then, need it and not have it.

  • @Dr.Spoofs
    @Dr.Spoofs 2 года назад +8

    If you live in this time, you need it.

  • @bboness713
    @bboness713 2 года назад +9

    Why wouldn't we have armor? Great video brother!

  • @Acemechanicalservices
    @Acemechanicalservices 11 месяцев назад +6

    I put together a vest of full steel plates, front, back and sides. The weight is ridiculous, and really has to be felt to be believed. You would have to be a real prime specimen to operate wearing it. I feel that vest would do me more harm than good! It also makes you realize how much an extra 40 pounds of body weight (which I carry right now) is dragging you down.

    • @PBlack-y4w
      @PBlack-y4w 9 месяцев назад

      Also have to take in consideration shrapnel. Projectile might not go thru, but pieces could go into face, arms legs. Needs a coating.

  • @Tokyo_Lloyd
    @Tokyo_Lloyd 2 года назад +3

    You’ve got a bad actor trying to scam your supporters that leave comments, sir.

  • @ccsmith2937
    @ccsmith2937 2 года назад +17

    If you own a gun then you need body armor. Most crime involves handguns so soft armor has its place. 3A Backpack armor inserts 10”x12” are $50 or a vest type carrier/ 2 plates is $100 at Botach. It’s good stuff. If you have kids in school put an IFAK & a backpack ballistic panel into their backpack. 👍🇺🇸👍

    • @bunk95
      @bunk95 8 месяцев назад

      Crime is fictional. Do you lie about human slaves and what they do with that fiction?
      Are you being kept as a slave thats marketed with fiction?

  • @petersicilian5669
    @petersicilian5669 2 года назад +11

    Outstanding . very informative video. You keep things real .

  • @americathefree3708
    @americathefree3708 2 года назад +6

    I keep soft vest in my closet in case immediate threat. But my truck and man cave is the ar500. I'm going to change now that i have seen this. Thanks. Going to send a thanks too and I subscribed because you have useful info.

  • @bski1611
    @bski1611 2 года назад +10

    You can also get steel plates with a build-up coat which prevents frag pretty well.

    • @augmentin1x2
      @augmentin1x2 2 года назад +6

      Exactly! I can’t understand why in 2022 we’re talking about steel plates and spalling when there are a lot with built-up coat. I went through CaliberArmor and they’re great…heavy but comfortable with a very performing anti-spalling coat. Steel 20 years shelf life - Ceramic 5…

  • @bryanst.martin7134
    @bryanst.martin7134 2 года назад +5

    It's that fuzzy math, where 20% more coverage may mean 50% greater survivability. Good words, Brother, Thank you.
    Having narrowly dodged Ian, I just realized my rig is far from buoyant. I think I will check out West Marine for one of those self inflating collars.

  • @kennypreston3302
    @kennypreston3302 2 года назад +34

    Here in NY state. Apparently the “officials” in the government feel that we don’t need body armor .. in fact we civilian’s are not allowed to have it anymore!! I don’t understand how something that could save my life ,and in no way do any harm to anyone else,be banned!

    • @TheOleOtter
      @TheOleOtter Год назад +13

      Because they realize it could save your life without you relying on the government.

    • @dontmakememad6759
      @dontmakememad6759 Год назад +2

      They wanted to stop the sales that way there is no more vest being sold and distributed now the armor that you see criminals with is 9/10 times stolen

    • @alefdesign1990
      @alefdesign1990 Год назад +2

      Can own...just cant buy online in ny state any longer. PA or Vermont and drive back.

    • @badboybootz8
      @badboybootz8 Год назад

      Because your govt. Wants you dead

    • @YHVH1483
      @YHVH1483 Год назад +3

      I think you can own it, just can't buy it in NY state.

  • @wilsongulick4608
    @wilsongulick4608 2 года назад +5

    I didn't much think about body armor in terms of civvie gun ranges until roundabout 2017 when an older but newbie guy at a range pointed an AK pistol at my chest twice within 10 minutes. Twice!
    After that IDGAF what the old timers at the range think of me (they talk trash, snicker etc). Whatever old man, this is guaranteed to be cheaper than a GSW to the chest or back. At a range where I don't know absolutely everyone I'm rocking rifle plates and an IFAK the entire time.
    Also, if you need them for a real-world situation, most likely you're not getting them if you don't already have them.
    Finally, great piece of workout equipment too, as long as you don't use UHMWPE plates.

    • @D0TELL
      @D0TELL 8 месяцев назад

      Twice!!

  • @ottoskorzeny9805
    @ottoskorzeny9805 2 года назад +4

    I've been shot a total of 5 times in 3 different situations .
    I'm a bullet magnet .
    I need my armor,I work in ........Memphis ,need I say more lol
    BTW,if you're broke and use steel armor , I know guys that run lvl 3a 10×12 soft armor in front of their steel plates to catch spall. Duct tape it on the front of the steel and your spalling worries are over .

    • @jsb9317
      @jsb9317 2 года назад +1

      Remind me not to stand next to you!😊

    • @kenofken9458
      @kenofken9458 2 года назад

      If you're wearing out armor like socks or condoms, you might want to reconsider your choice of associates and profession!🤣

  • @BirdDogey1
    @BirdDogey1 2 года назад +2

    I'm retired and substitute teach. Threw a plate in my backpack. Just in case.

  • @theKashConnoisseur
    @theKashConnoisseur 2 года назад +9

    There's been a few times at the outdoor shooting spot where someone shooting a gun for their first time flags the entire firing line with their finger on the trigger. In those moments I've often thought it would be nice to have body armor.

  • @opossumgrylls3275
    @opossumgrylls3275 6 месяцев назад +1

    There are several types of steel used with varying properties such as impact resistance and weight. Ar500 is the cheapest. Ar550 offers better protection but is heavier. Are 650 offers basically the same protection as ar550 but is lighter and more expensive.

  • @mr.g816
    @mr.g816 2 года назад +12

    Thank you. Never thought about the soft armor underneath the plate, or side plates. Sounds worth it

    • @amadoleon8981
      @amadoleon8981 2 года назад

      They sell Padding for that Last time I looked they were 25 bucks

    • @Fng_1975
      @Fng_1975 2 года назад

      Belay my last. I was mistaken. Sorry

  • @RickSanchez167
    @RickSanchez167 Год назад +2

    NIJ tests plates after 2 heavy drops straight on the strike face. Theyre not likely to break.

  • @SinCityVillain
    @SinCityVillain 2 года назад +8

    I'll probably never have a need for this BUT i absolutely love hearing you talk about the why and how of just about everything. It's insightful, thought-provoking and fascinating. Most reviews on every topic, subject or item, the reviewer says.."These are the top 5-10....etc etc" but you always explain all angles of things which i really love. Thank You!

  • @rowlinstoned3715
    @rowlinstoned3715 2 месяца назад +2

    I never really thought about using a carrier plate but the practice like u fight got me on board. Great video man

  • @PeterErikson-rd5tj
    @PeterErikson-rd5tj 11 месяцев назад +1

    THE second type you Showed -- Is that made of plastic Bottle Like tough. Plastic. -- an upgraded. tougher Plastic ?

  • @Cletus_the_Elder
    @Cletus_the_Elder Год назад +5

    I had the same thought about layering soft armor under hard armor. I would think that should there be a round that makes impact, the durable soft layer will disperse some of the force around the surface area of the pad. There will still be injury, but I would think that it would be the difference between bruised/hairline-fractured ribs to full-on broken ribs.
    As to which I would purchase, I think of prioritizing the harm I am prepping for in terms of statistical likelihood and level of harm. If I was a convenience store worker, it would be double plates. As an office guy, it would be the soft pads that can fit underneath a dress shirt, in case someone tries to rob me on my way to the parking lot and things get sloppy. I know people are prepping for much worse these days, but my priority is the immediate and likely harm before the less likely harm.

  • @greaterbw
    @greaterbw 9 месяцев назад +1

    A buddy who spent nearly 20 years in Iraq said absolutely not ceramic he said after wearing for six months it’s trash. I’m researching now for a setup that won’t put me in the poorhouse but last and provide sufficient protection 🤷🏽‍♂️ also what about soft in the front of the plate for stopping the fragment spray??

  • @JSMachine1
    @JSMachine1 2 года назад +4

    I like steel plates for the weight for using my carrier like a weight vest. I get the benefits of tactical training and also a workout. For actual real world use I would go with the lighter option.

  • @3enzym3
    @3enzym3 11 месяцев назад +1

    Surely he knows that Spartan armor is coated with anti spall polyurethane and zero “frag” escapes the face over and over and over and over. This is total misinformation.
    He’s referring to “uncoated” steel plates, which should be illegal to pass as armor.
    Huge difference.

  • @thediscodungeon7035
    @thediscodungeon7035 2 года назад +4

    "I'm a civilian now like you guys are."
    🤣

    • @klujics123
      @klujics123 11 месяцев назад

      Who’d he kiddin’? 😅

  • @Featherless1
    @Featherless1 9 месяцев назад +1

    What are a bunch of demoralized civilians going to do with body armor... 😂 America is already under tyrannical rule if you haven't noticed...

  • @danielcurtis1434
    @danielcurtis1434 Год назад +5

    I really like this guys approach!! He’s not focused on buzz words or clickbait for views. His opinions are based on experiences not perceptions and assumptions.

  • @Watchdog_UFOtestpilot
    @Watchdog_UFOtestpilot 10 месяцев назад +1

    Shot stop is currently under investigation, allegedly for slapping their branding on untested Chinese made inferior product. Bummer. I’m going with a less than perfect solution but I’m going to have it just in case of a worst case scenario.

  • @greggwhipple6124
    @greggwhipple6124 2 года назад +4

    I wear mine all the time larping around the house , I get off balance not wearing it

    • @jdl2180
      @jdl2180 2 года назад

      I sleep in mine, I can't fall asleep without it on.

  • @JustinMilford
    @JustinMilford Год назад +2

    I use my sapi plates to ruck up mount yonah. Steele plates front,back,sides. 3 30-round mags and glock 19x ( bear/coyote) protection cause i obviously ruck at night. That's about 35-40 lbs. Then my backpack with ddm4 pdw, several mags and ammunition boxes, ears batteries, etc. Adds another 40 lbs. Long answer, i know. In short, yes, i use them every night to train.

  • @jeremiahgermaine6256
    @jeremiahgermaine6256 2 года назад +7

    Great info, I trust your judgement and definitely will be looking into side plates.

  • @MrBake142
    @MrBake142 3 месяца назад +1

    I have plates for me and my family and besides the obvious reasons, I live in an area prone to tornados. When we have to take cover from possible flying debris, what’s it going to hurt?

  • @rumdog117
    @rumdog117 2 года назад +5

    While you make valid points about steel, if things go down in the future and you can't buy ceramic armor after it gets a shot in it or breaks due to an accident, steel would seem to be a better option for people long term with out unlimited cash.

    • @Uzumakibarage
      @Uzumakibarage 10 месяцев назад +1

      Most steel armor I've seen now is around 5 lbs . They make frag bags (Kevlar bags) that go over the steel plates to capture any fragments. With a small amount of searching it easy to solve the ar500 problems

  • @ZebraActual
    @ZebraActual 11 месяцев назад +2

    The need for body armor is similar to your need for a concealed firearm and/or 4 wheel drive.. it's better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it.

  • @semperfortisjiujitsu
    @semperfortisjiujitsu 2 года назад +8

    Great advice and insight. Most likely will never need them, but they are great to have if you ever need them.

  • @petrkarv
    @petrkarv 11 месяцев назад +1

    Stopshot website looks to be shut down. Possible low quality Chinese plates being passed off as nij certified American. At least that is what I hear. Be aware.

  • @stevouknow8408
    @stevouknow8408 Год назад +3

    Hey, 307 project ! If you run out of that Hoist take my advice. 1 Luke warm Quart of Water, 1tsp of Baking Soda, 1 tsp of salt. Now, you have a satisfactory electrolyte solution in the field. Brought to you by a Retured Navy Corpsmen. Have a great day, and keep on soldiering !

  • @dimasromero6676
    @dimasromero6676 2 года назад +4

    thank's my man.your videos are very informative ,big fan of your content

  • @mitchdickson254
    @mitchdickson254 Год назад +1

    Chadd, only Military and Police are taught to shoot center of mass. A hunter will never shoot you center of mass. He will kill you instead ;) A hunter looks for a profile shot so he can penetrate both lungs and the heart, just like facing a bear. But full front on a chest shot may kill but not instantly!! You can hit the heart or either lung, all three will kill but not before he can fire and kill you! The hunter if he is face on will aim at either hip, or throat or head, never center of mass ;) Shatter either hip and he is out of the fight. The pain is so much he will scream the 90 seconds it takes to bleed out from the femal artery, he is out of the fight the instant the bullet hits!!!

  • @robertsalyers1351
    @robertsalyers1351 Год назад +7

    Solid Dude and such a straight shooter. Much love and respect 🙏

  • @bowdezaufa2609
    @bowdezaufa2609 Год назад +2

    I have come to terms that the only time I'm going to use my vest is when the government knocks on my door wanting to infringe on my god given rights. I will defend my country against all enemies foreign and domestic.

  • @phillipwaters7716
    @phillipwaters7716 9 месяцев назад +14

    I would like to add that the “bed liner” type coating on the steel plates is there for the purpose of catching fragments and reducing spall on the back of it. Some companies call the coating frag wrap. Thanks for the video, Chadd! I really like them all and always learn something that I didn’t know!

  • @mrwayne5158
    @mrwayne5158 Год назад +1

    If you have a Gun for protection than you should get body armor, its a unnecessary risk to take If you choose to defend yourself without it.

  • @Jake-ne8fp
    @Jake-ne8fp Год назад +4

    I run steel with spall coating but the most important part is the anti spall sleeve to put around the actual plate made out of kevlar. But realistically the goal is to get hit once and avoid further rounds. Ceramic is lighter but long term I like my steel due to the durability if anyone were to unload say 9mm into it. It's really just a safety net, the first line of defense is training and positioning.

  • @barrysmith916
    @barrysmith916 2 года назад +1

    If bullets are flying in both directions, body armor improves your chances of survival. You do you.

  • @JayDubb3BCT
    @JayDubb3BCT 2 года назад +3

    Agilite level 4 ceramics. Light weight, multi hit capabilities and not very obtrusive as far as thickness.
    Nuff said!

  • @davidgosnell5901
    @davidgosnell5901 11 месяцев назад +1

    Watch the videos on body armor most companies have them spartan has anti spall coatings on them and they have baloons surrounding it as they shoot their plates plus your plate carrier is going to help also and their anti spall stops the baloons from being burst and they have trauma pads to go behind it to keep down brusing . I would rather toat steel then to have a bullet thru my chest

  • @EyesWideOpen1969
    @EyesWideOpen1969 Год назад +4

    I'm amazed that someone in the steel plate community of manufacturers hasn't given the upper part something like knight armor had, a bevor lip at the top. There is also shoulder plates. I have both side and shoulder plates. Level IV all the way around. I wish there was a way to make level IV helmets without them being extra heavy.

  • @hellsscoutact5379
    @hellsscoutact5379 2 года назад +2

    Our military has it so i need to have it also. JMHO

  • @Archangels1
    @Archangels1 11 месяцев назад +3

    I’m glad your taking about spalting. (Frag) with certain plates.

  • @davidwithers7181
    @davidwithers7181 11 месяцев назад +2

    Anyone have an alternative to shotstop? They aren't taking orders

  • @HighlanderThisIlldefend
    @HighlanderThisIlldefend Год назад +6

    Good stuff. Personally I like 3+ Fras armor. It's lighter than steel plates, flexible, no spalling, multi hit capable and offers better protection than 3a soft armors

    • @kmac720
      @kmac720 11 месяцев назад

      I've been looking at doing FRAS plates or just gettin getting a vest from SafeLife. Any other brands but them that make FRAS?

    • @HighlanderThisIlldefend
      @HighlanderThisIlldefend 11 месяцев назад

      @@kmac720 Guard Dog Body Armor actually tested better than Safe Life in a video I saw. They are the only other brand I know of that offers something like that

    • @kmac720
      @kmac720 11 месяцев назад

      @@HighlanderThisIlldefend Thanks! Found their site, I see some 3+ stuff, didn't see anything labeled FRAS. Looks like plates only? That's my debat too, getting plates vis a vest

  • @allenstewart5624
    @allenstewart5624 Месяц назад +1

    If you are not wearing it daily but would put it on only when needed, should you consider a shot stop plate as the solution?

  • @tripple3473
    @tripple3473 2 года назад +4

    great video, Thanks brother. Ive been thinking about getting some but want to know more and your advice is priceless

  • @kevinmalone4109
    @kevinmalone4109 11 месяцев назад +1

    It’s like owning a fire extinguisher.
    You might never use it!
    On the other hand??

  • @wigon
    @wigon 2 года назад +23

    I think that there are several things that are massively overlooked regarding soft body armor. The soft kevlar inserts you showed are not what police typically use. Most soft kevlar vests used by the police have a insert that wraps around covering most of the side of the torso and often a bit of the shoulder. This provides far greater protective coverage than plates can offer against pistols which is what the vast majority of criminals are carrying. On top of that, many of these vests are concealable and as such can be worn in public without attracting much attention. I'm not saying one shouldn't buy plates, however unless you're preparing for a civil war or preparing to fight the government, then the chances that you'll run up against an opponent wielding a rifle (5.56mm or more powerful) is not very likely. Likewise for those of us living in cities, if we wear a plate carrier in public, people would constantly call the cops on us unless we're with a large group of individuals wearing body armor such as at a protest.
    Some also argue that for home defense it's useless because you won't have time to put on body armor. I disagree. I've thrown mine on several times during suspected burglary attempts and one actual home invasion attempt. What buys time to do this, is having #1 a loud dog, #2 keeping your doors and windows locked, and #3, using interior bedroom locks.
    Now I do have a plate carrier with ceramic plates, but it ALSO has wrap around kevlar inserts (like on a police vest) protecting the sides. So I have the best of both worlds and can pull out the plates if I want to go lightweight. But...for an extreme emergency where someone just kicks in my bedroom door I train to use the back "drag" strap of the vest to hold it up with my non-shooting hand in order to use the vest as a ballistic shield while I shoot with the other hand. So just having your vest (hard or soft body armor) by your bedside where it can be quickly grabbed, allows it to be used as a lightweight improvised ballistic shield. Nobody does training videos showing such practical aspects of body armor usage for civilians. I would make them, but I'm fat and ridiculous looking so nobody would take me seriously despite me being ex-Army. You might consider making some videos like that showing a more likely civilian application.

    • @smh9902
      @smh9902 Год назад +2

      Having body armor is great. Being in good physical fitness is even better. I'd argue even better than having body armor. If I had to choose between having body armor and being in good physical shape, I'd choose fitness every time.

    • @wigon
      @wigon Год назад +4

      @@smh9902 That doesn't make much sense. It doesn't matter what physical shape you are, you're not going to outrun a bullet or dodge them like you're in the Matrix movie. You might be able to charge someone fast in a close quarters situation and over-power them, but typically home invaders operate in groups. You'd just end up dead doing that in most cases. You're best option is to setup a strong point guarding a hallway where bedrooms are located.
      Being physically fit is great, but it's not a substitute for having a kevlar vest right next to your nightstand pistol that you practice throwing on rapidly.
      You won't ninja your way out of a typical home invasion no matter what your physical fitness level is. Solid CQB/home defense training with a firearm coupled with a reliable firearm and high-coverage soft Level IIIA body armor is the best way to go. For those who can't afford CQB firearm training, I recommend investing in airsoft Co2 operated training pistols and joining an indoor airsoft match event for some force on force training on the cheap. It's fun, excellent cardio, and you learn REALLY fast what tactics work and which do not.

    • @smh9902
      @smh9902 Год назад

      @@wigon I was just saying for life as a whole, in the uber specific situation of a home invasion by one to two bandits, I agree with you.

    • @petemitchell6788
      @petemitchell6788 Год назад

      Done all the work except for the hard kind. All that training and you’re overweight? No excuse for that. A warrior should be fit. If you’re not it’ll get you killed quicker thank not having kit.

    • @petemitchell6788
      @petemitchell6788 Год назад +1

      @@wigon you talk too much bro.

  • @RodCornholio
    @RodCornholio 2 года назад +2

    I ask people, "Do you think you may be shot AT (not random) some time in the future, say, in a gun fight?" The smarter ones will figure it out from there.

  • @darinbess5540
    @darinbess5540 2 года назад +4

    Once again thanks for limited hype content that is valuable to the armed citizen.

  • @Youngonce01
    @Youngonce01 2 года назад +1

    If you are a citizen then, yes, you do need armor. If you are a civilian, then no.

  • @bmille2121
    @bmille2121 Год назад +4

    another great video from you guys. I love your channel, having recently discovered it. You guys are always straight forward to the point with no BS.

  • @thomasowens3135
    @thomasowens3135 2 года назад +2

    You’re comments section is being scammed. There are scammers running giveaways scams in the comments section.

  • @dgio5052
    @dgio5052 2 года назад +6

    Yeah, broke down and bought a set during the Biden voter riots. Also, some politicians don't think you should own BA, so there's a reason in itself to own you a set. Crazy times we are in for sure. Might also be a good item to have on hand for trading etc.

  • @sladeoriginal
    @sladeoriginal 8 месяцев назад +1

    did you swap plates after shot stop got busted putting made in usa stickers on chinese material?

  • @heavyd9154
    @heavyd9154 2 года назад +4

    the smaller lighter plates fit great inside your truck and car doors. Pop off the door panel and use super double tape or construction adhesive to mount inside the door. Reinstall the door panel

    • @KennyInSubic
      @KennyInSubic 2 года назад

      👍👍👍

    • @kenofken9458
      @kenofken9458 2 года назад +2

      There's not a lot of spare space in a car door. Even if you can somehow sandwich one in, you probably won't ever be able to open that window again.

    • @coryshaw5693
      @coryshaw5693 2 года назад

      @@kenofken9458 lmao wrong

  • @neffdeathwatch7641
    @neffdeathwatch7641 Год назад +1

    I got recommended Spartan armor there's a package deal $249 for lvl3 and Archiles plate carrier. Yes, I am trying to get buy one since it's better to have one than regret and yes took me forever to save $$$ any tips I would appreciate it. Thank you😮