Safe Life Defense Flexible Rifle Armor System (FRAS) Test & Review
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- Опубликовано: 29 авг 2024
- We head out to the desert to test the Safe Life Defense Flexible Rifle Armor System (FRAS) that claims to stop both rifle and pistol calibers. Can it stop M855? Let's see!
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Safe Life repair, Safe Life replace.
"If our armour fails our rating, send it in for a full refund!"
Glad I'm not the only one that had that come to mind
@@youngcowboy6594 no refund necessary. Armor fails your dead
@@nitrousoxide2265 r/wooosh
With it being so flexible and light weight,they should offer deltoid and thigh armor. They could definitely make a set up that has substantial coverage to the user while having flexibility that plates cant offer
It would likely be pretty expensive and hard to make, but it would totally be worth it for Master Chief armour
They could, but adding weight to your legs would really limit your mobility.
That sounds awesome to me. Good idea. Plus, you get one hell of a workout, just from gearing up.... Like soldiers from ancient times used to get from wearing their armor. A Two-fer! Lol
Nice. 🙂👍🏻
At least abdominal/groin junk wounds aren't fun not to mention your femoral right there
That's exactly what I was thinking. They should make a helmet as well. Cool Stuff!
Reminds me of the dragon skin armor
I mean it was deemed that this style is not sufficient at keeping soldiers safe because of the gaps between the plates.
I always assumed dragonskin failed in high heat (read: Middle East)
Fatal Oath I believe it didn’t get picked up because of price
@@jryker28 It was a clusterfuck of stubbornness and bad management. The company thought they could strong-arm the military into buying them with the media by playing the victim, which didn't work.
It didn't get picked because the tech was immature, unreliable against AP, and there were glue and ceramic quality control issues. Dragonskin relied on a pliable glue that hardens when left alone, and flexes when manipulated. Besides the infamous temperature issue, people found out you can push aside the disks in a given area by manipulating individual disks.
Then it failed a second time because the owner didn't want to sell it to anyone who couldn't purchase in bulk, and also started fights on forums, writing cheques he couldn't cash in military communities, which is why people lost sympathy in him.
Then it failed a third time because there's simply no interest in the product anymore, even after it was made available to civilians. All the people who said they would buy it simply didn't. Now Dragonskin is dead and its derivatives are just as obscure. FRAS isn't new, there another flexible system called "Hexar" made by Stealth Armor Systems, which is EXTREMELY similar, created by the inventor of Dragonskin after he split from Pinnacle (the original company that produced Dragonskin).
Yeah it was the high heat caused the glue to fail and the scales to fall to the bottom.
Why hasn't anyone simply improved on the design doesn't make sense.
Just sew each scale together individuals. Heat won't be a problem
My body is telling me yes
My wallet is screaming no
@Mark Belk Damm right!!!
@chuck middleton for my body or the vest? No homo
2100+
@TEXAS HOLDEM you sir, sound like you have various restraining orders
I have everything but their belt and FRAS system. I have the iiia+ and IV plates that goes with it. I do private military and need a full body system, do you know places?
Yeah, but will it stop that Covid-19 out of a 200mph sneeze?
Only if soaked in Mexican beer.
I bet if we wove clothing out of Chuck Norris' beard it would stop Covid-19 and 30-06.
Lmfao
Chuck Norris doesn't do push ups!!! He pushes the Earth down!!!!
Only if your state governor says it can.
Until that price drops; i'm sticking with other systems. I can get the same (or better) protection for less than half the price (including a carrier). Thanks for making this, Mr. G.
You'll have better ballistic protection but not even close to the amount of area coverage this has. But its way too expensive as of now
Mr. Ngo, I get almost the same area coverage front/back, but the sides on this thing cover no more than my side plates currently do. Either way, I'm glad we agree the price is too high.
It’s not for civilians and couch operators so you don’t have anything to worry about.
Mr Way2Good if it stops airsoft, then it is.
What type of body armor do you use and what is the price range for it??
Thank you for using the ballistics dummy. When I first saw this stuff I was so glad someone picked up the dragon skin concept. Great vid as always
Oh no...Not the fucking Dragon Skin concept.....
And unlike Dragon Skin, these guys actually did it right.
I would really like one of those vests, but omg, that price is nuts...only the federal government or state agencies can afford that...and only because they have the luxury of using our sequestered money...a.k.a taxes.
@Great White No really. They dont give this kind of armor to most
Tyranny money *
@@Ship-security DHS issued some real good stuff. I got issued a pair of Hesco 3800C plates with brand new carriers. Plus a brand new M4 with my choice of optic. LVPO/ ACOG/ Eotech or aimpoint T2. Plus a streamlight rail mount and a cloud defense mount. I was issued a colt m4 from an old contract, but we also had BCM SBR’s. I was impressed. Compared to the garbage the DOD issued me, it was great!
@@chillnick1865 I stand corrected
@@Ship-security Yeah man. It was pretty great probably my favorite thing about DHS. A ridiculous amount of funding and an essentially unlimited supply of ammo. Have a great day man!
My problem with it isn't so much the price, but that it only has a guarantee shelf life of 5 years. If it was guaranteed longer it wouldn't be so bad.
Or that it's not NIJ certified and regularly fails independent testing when struck at angles other than perpendicular.
@@phtevenmolz5030 truth
@@phtevenmolz5030 is this true? I’ve always wondered about how this armor handles strikes from different angles.
@@cfl4286 yes. You can do a search for "NIJ Balistic Armor Compliant Product List" and you will see that Safe Life Defense only has one product that has ever been certified. It's a 3A panel - model SLD-PLUS.
They fail testing at angles, which is where body armor is supposed to perform the best because it provides more ballistic material than when shot perpendicular. Also, their products are made in China, but priced way above US-made products...all while not even being certified, so they don't have to pass RIT which is where plates randomly have to pass inspection in order to remain on the NIJ list.
@@phtevenmolz5030 what soft armor with at least some rifle protection would be best?
I've been researching body armor options. You put out a good, well-rounded review that helps me with my research. Thanks!
You should have used 10mm. Just the wind from that bad boy will vaporize an elephant at 1000 meters.
C E N T I M E T E R S
Alamo1836 I’m found of 20mm that bad boy can stop a lightly armored tank! 🤣
He didnt shoot 45 acp at it. Why the hell would he shoot 10mm at it? You are far more likely to encounter a threat with 45acp than 10mm. Not a lot of people out there using 10mm
Rat shot nuke to the chest
Lol
Watching that dummy gel jiggle I'm thinking "boy, I may not die, but the next day, I think dying might have felt better!" hahaha but man that is some impressive armor!
Yeah, gotta throw some trauma pads in the plate pocket.
Wow! Look at the shock wave in the gel!
Man I knew Johnny Sins was packin but I didn’t know he was packin.
Price tag hits harder than that 762x54 WOW!
It can't even stop 762x51 or 762x54, plus hot 556 rounds will zip through.
Sad that I have to consider a purchase like this these days in the USA. Blessed to have the option in the USA. God help us please.
True. I am also concerned dems will try to make armor illegal
@@GAMarine137 bill has already been drafted, its currently collecting dust though. Don't recall the #, buy your body armor ASAP, I got mine last year after Long-Nose Dick-Canoe Schumer made his little banning body armor speech...
God isn’t real. Talk to your representatives for help, and carry a handgun.
@@gregnajduch6708 God is real and he loves you. God bless you.
Keep in mind that "these days" the violent crime rate is about the lowest it's ever been. "back in the day", violent crime and murder rates were higher. Get off the MSM teet
Very impressive for flexible armor, it's expensive but hopefully, future generations become cheaper to manufacture and purchase.
This is a good illustration of the limited coverage of body armor, center mass shots for the fail.
Been watching Freefield Training feature this vest a lot. So glad to see it here now, too. Great vid as always 😁
Tactical Johnny Sins is at it again! Good stuff.
Hahaha, spit my coffee everywhere, thanks!
Peak 14 year old humor
@@dmoney6005 I mean, you understood the joke \('_')/
Sell for 700 and watch them fly off the shelves
Cost more than that to make lmao the 2k price range is for a reason it is NOT cheap to make flexible rifle rated armor.
Your life is worth more than 2k...
@@carryeveryday910 stealth armor systems hexar is cheaper though and is actually the original
@@NewPhone-bs7mt I don’t care if it’s cheaper or the original. Cheaper just tells me you value your life less I value my life more point blank period lmao. If I’m getting soft RIFLE armor I’ll pay the higher price because it’s not easy to make soft armor rifle rated.
@@carryeveryday910 just because something is more expensive doesn't mean it's better. If a second company comes out with armor just as good for 800 bucks why would anyone buy the 2k fras?
I’d like to see some more flexible carriers with side molle etc
WoW... that's some amazing great piece of kit right there brother!!! I just wish I could afford it😭
Reminds me of Dragon Skin from back in the early 2000s
about 1/3 the weight and no systemic failures that I'm aware of though
So I'm from central AL and there's a company down there called safe life repair, they have a commercial with a tune that goes "safe life repair, safe life defense!" And since this vest showed up I can't forget that tune.
😂
um no. Just no.... It's Safelite Repair, and the jingle is "Safelite Repair, Safelite Replace". They're an auto glass company.....
crazy how many round u put into it and it still worked wow
YES!!!! Been waiting for this review!!! Thank you!
The dragon breath was a nice touch!!
Thank you mrgunsangear!!!
Seems very similar to the old Dragonskin armor that was making a fast entry and exit from the armor world. If I recall it was unable to stop high angle projectiles a la ieds from close ground level or shots from second or third story buildings etc.
I went from plate because it was tearing up all my back injuries. I went to a composite that is lighter. But, walking around with a high cut helmet with external tacos may not work in the general environment. Granted it is .308 rated, it might not work well in a civilian situation where you’re not going to go full on war with a .308 SAS. So, I appreciate the review. It works well for a Grey Man environment. The kind of day where you throw your Mark 18 law folder in your back with extra magazines and a cover shirt for a pistol with extra mags and a good blade.
It was a great video, it was nice to have you filming in our town Las Vegas.
Thank you
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Always enjoy the armor tests.
Surprisingly enough a lot of the budget stuff out there is right up there with the expensive armor.
Thank you
I could buy that one vest in the concealed option. Or I could buy an entire combat uniform with level 3+ plates trauma pads mag pouches a nice fighting knife and still have money left over for ammo. Also very low BFD on steel armor
Steel armor will kill you anyway
Impressive for sure
Honestly this is maybe the most impressive armor I've seen yet!
does it stop .308 though?
@@scoobarsteve7948 NIJ LVL III is 7.62x51 ball/ .308 and 7.62x39. He showed a chart on screen. Though it does need to be updated, LVL IV was 30.06 AP, but now includes M855A1.
I wish the Army went to something more comfortable than IOTVs. After standing for an hour it feels like both of your collar bones are broken.
Saved Life you’re wearing it wrong, have poor fitment, or need to work your traps more. Make sure the internal cummerbund is tight and the outer cummerbund is fitted correctly. That’s what helps take the load off your shoulders and distributes it toward your hips better.
IOTV’s are leaps and bounds better than the IBA.
I bought a Mini 14 from a Vietnam vet the other day, he said they didn't wear any plates. Now that's what I call light infantry. They say we have it easier today...okay, boomer.
@@LatestHour
Didn't we lose 59,000 of them?
@@gwfranklin1
They also need to get the sizes right. Normally need a large PC just to cover my vitals with a mod for a medium cummerbund since I'm thin on the sides.
Wear a medium gen 3 iotv and it somehow flops around so much I can use it to imitate a bell and they wouldn't let me resize to see why the hell a medium iotv is somehow way too big
@@gwfranklin1 technically they were using plates in Vietnam. At least they did in the Marines. The flak vests they used used multiple ballistic plates woven into the fabric to stop shrapnel.
Now, this is how you test a body armor. Pretty impressive
And it's only $1600+, what a deal 🤗
I know right??? Everything that company sells is overpriced imo.
SOFT ARMOR that can stop rifle rounds of any kind?? How can it be over priced since it's literally the only company on the market that has that. There is no other price point for comparison.
Soft armor that can stop rifle rounds of any kind??? Bwahahahaha! 😆 Try again numnuts..................what this company offers (for the low, low price of $1,600+ usd) is a semi pliable and yet, still bulky (and heavy by some people's standards) armor that stops 223/5.56 and 7.62x39 threats. That is a FAR CRY from "rifle rounds of any kind". Use your fucking eyeballs and look at the monumental jump in price from an already expensive lineup. This armor is marginally better in some areas but worse in others than what's currently on the market. You can buy two III+ or level 4 plates (which offer more protection) for around 200 bucks from most companies (sometimes including the plate carrier and trauma pads). Add in side plates (if that's something you want) and what you have is a slightly bulkier and slightly heavier package at a FRACTION of the cost.
How much is your life worth?
Can you test the HESCO L210 special threat plates?
Great review, bud. Thanks!
I'm buying a Fras tomorrow!!!!! Cannot wait til I get it. Hate that it's on 12 week time though. Oh well
Awesome video. Looks like great body armor. If I was back in Law Enforcement, i'd chose that, since it stops most rifle rounds.
So does a plate at a fraction of the cost.
@@thespectator5259 lol no it won't. It also won't weight 6x the amount.
Would have loved to see an option for plate inserts, even something specific to this system to bring it up.
I checked on that. They have plates and come in at 5+lbs for under $200. I’m doing more research as far as how long they last etc.
It has plate pockets, they also sell soft rifle plates to bring it up to lvl 4 standards
"A 'gotdam' mans man he is"
My uncle who saw me watching the video. I never knew my uncle watched Mike 😂👍
Plate carrier with plates is easily 10-20lbs. Might just have to save up for this to shed some weight
Why is there still no thermoplastic armour? It's lighter and thinner than kevlar, while being able to stop .308 rounds. Lots of helmets already use it so I don't see why no body armour has yet.
I loved the Dragon's Breath. Awesome. I think of Beavis and Butthead laughing and saying, "Fire. Fire."
They should lengthen it by 3 inches and make it higher up around the neck and armpits. This is almost perfect soldier frag armor.
But will this vest disperse enough energy to keep you alive after stopping a 12ga slug?
For that price The $200.00 plates stop just as much, that plus is just the side coverage.III+ for sure.
Barry Lynne but weight is the real factor. More expensive=lighter, cheaper=heavier!
And $200 plates only cover a 10x12 (or 11x13 if you're a chunky boi).
Full vest coverage like a soft armor, but stops rifle. And it isn't a completely rigid system.
Tech costs money, especially if it's relatively new and materials are costly
Love everything about it, except the price. If I were LE, I would consider it.
No Leo is wearing that. 18lbs is rediculous. Not only that I don't know of any departments or grants giving an officer that much for a vest.
My armor weighs like 30lbs with all gear loaded!
I have been really on the fence about getting either a 300 blackout or 5.56 pistol with a less than 10 inch barrel. The only thing stopping me is that super Sonic 300blk has a hard time penetrating 3a soft armor and level 3 hard, but it seems like 5.56 even out of very short barrels will still penetrate. As a "life and liberty" build the preformance of 300blk is concerning. Since you're one of the biggest advocates of 300blk could you do a real test? There aren't too many well preformed tests on RUclips currently.
Sadly for the public I've never witnessed a bulletproof test without cuteness in RUclips but yeah, I possess a bulletproof vest and these things are definitely bullet and bully proof
That body armor is fantastic. Damn expensive, though. But worth it.
Good stuff! Thanks for the demo!
New version of Dragon Skin
My exact thought
About time imo, good design.
But does it fix the problems that Dragon Skin had with the side shots slipping past the ceramic plates? and going straight through?
@@breadman32398 Dragon Skin got left by the wayside with good reason. Time will tell if this improves on its shortcomings.
@@SaftonYT hopefully they fixed the adhesive issue that plagued dragonskin
Great Review… Thanks Keep up The great work
I was interested until I saw the price.
It's a new tech, it'll come down
@@Darkpara1 This armor is not new tech by any means. This armor is just a copy of dragon skin ceramic plate armor that's been around for like 15 years.
Cant put a price on your life tho
@@DKTPAirsoft or you could get plates....NIJ certified, lightweight plates its not like its FRAS or nothing
wackoguywatch theres difference between buying new tires for your car and buying a brand new kind of product that’s $1,500 plus without seeing if anybody runs into any cons with the armor, tf kinda analogy is that?
Finally you’re testing body armor correctly.
2010GT500 you mean propping it up against a cardboard box is wrong? Lol
Suddenly my FAL became my go to
Tactical Mr. Klean magically teleported from the Tobaccy fields of North Carolina to the dry desert of Nevada.
happens!
@@Mrgunsngear Might just be one hell of a hangover.
it is nice that the company will replace it, if within warranty, and a police report
That last round bolt hold open on the zastava, is that because of a mod on the mag or the rifle? Or no mods and that's just how the zastava mag came? Either way, awesome video.
I think it's on the mag
Croatian last round hold open magazines.
"All armour must die."
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Looks like I better start saving up!!!
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If a piece of armor takes that much punishment to fail..... then you would have to be one unlucky SOB.....great video 👍
I layer my FRAS with L3+ and the L4 plates.
I find it very troubling that on the website, it doesn't even tell you if it's ceramic or ballistic fiber, let alone what it's made of.
Please revisit 1:24, he describes the components. Ceramic tiles over UHMWPE (ultra high molecular weight poyethylene) Dyneema sheeting.
I always enjoy the videos but when body armor stops higher velocity rounds with better BC's and penetrator tips, we already know the subsequent slower, shorter, fatter rounds aren't going to make it through either.
It would be nice if they had front back and side pockets so you could put plates in for extra protection
....... awsom ! Very well presented young man .....
Thank you
Great review! But at that price you think they would make it it more rifle rated!!! AR500 or RMA IS GOOD TO GO. Keep the good content like this one coming!!
Duly noted
AR500 will also be defeated in common instances with m193 fmj out of a 20" barrel.
RMA is solid though.
Also remember that this tech is a flexible rifle grade body armor that until now was monopolized by stealth armor systems. And they sell roughly the same price for full body rifle coverage
@** at the cost of weight, bft mitigation, spall mitigation, the potential that your 10% deviation in hardness could result in a plate that is AR450 instead of 500, the fact that your steel plate needs an extra pound and 1/4" of truck bed liner to mitigate spall (which may or may not work), an extra quarter to half pound and another 1/4" trauma pad to soften the blow if you get hit, the potential that your level 3 plate will be defeated by a 55gr fmj 5.56 going at around 3100 fps or more with a 20" barrel.
But I guess stopping 308 is a plus it has
@@WeaponizedAutismiii since LVL III isn't rated for 5.56 your argument is null and void. III+ (which is not an official NIJ rating) is for 5.56. LVL IV for M855A1, which use to be solely for 30.06 AP.
The gel torso is cool but I'm more interested in an clay block so we can see the backface deformation
Though the rounds did not penetrate I can't help but wonder how much internal damage would the impact would create.
It's no worse than a punch
Cracked ribs, bones splintering so maybe some internal bleeding. It will hurt like hell.
If it's bad you could wear a trauma pad or some padding underneath. There are products made to be worn underneath soft armor for this purpose. There are some really cool flexible foams that do a great job of absorbing a blow, but I wouldn't usually want to wear a vest of foam since it's very insulating and not breathable. Might be fine in cold weather. But you'd wear what you have to if it keeps you alive. If you collapse from blunt force trauma when a vest catches a bullet it's not functional and you need to use something to prevent that and keep you in the fight.
I have a level 2 and a level 3 vest and I never wear my level 3 as it is too bulky, hot, and uncomfortable to wear in Texas especially in the summer. It is collecting dust in my closet.
I'll trade you 2oz of purell for it!
they have a 308 rated version. Also PLEASE TEST M855A1!! Thanks!!
NIJ has updated their standards. M855A1 is a LVL IV threat.
Excellent shooting excellent armor!👍
Impressive!
Of course there the price point, but what it took before failing is impressive. Seems it would be outstanding for multiple hits from small arms fire. Wonder what some of the larger stuff from distance would do on a fresh carrier. Good review.
........ this is great ...... Haleluya .....
Nice vest and great review. But defeated by the Mosin round! Interesting on another review it still stopped the 30/06.
These are great videos🇺🇸
great review! thanks man
You're welcome 👍🏽
Why are vests always so short (like cut-off belly shirts) though?
Seriously. I'm asking. I honestly don't understand. And I've never just asked anyone before. Haha.
So yeah. Why are they not formed more like (or atleast closer to) say a jet-ski life vest.... Which covers more of your torso, yet still doesn't really inhibit most movement or range of motion?
Could anyone please just help explain this, or try to provide some sort of a simple understanding, just about how or why most vests are so "skimpy" or minimal, so to speak? Thanks. 🙂👍🏻
The armor ends at one of the main hinge points in your torso. You can't have rigid, or even semi-rigid, armor that goes below about your belly-button line without seriously impacting your ability to move. If you look at ancient and medieval rigid breastplates, they also end at the same place and usually have some kind of flexible armor skirt or semi-rigid armor that flares out (called a fauld) to protect the lower abdomen area. Even if it could be made bullet resistant, something like that would not be concealable and almost certainly impractical in a modern combat environment.
Nothing like the Nevada desert !!
I dont know much about armor but it seems impressive considering the sheer amount of lead that thing took. Seems alot of armor is really only rated to take a few hits & it's done... that price though 😗
Anthony Coffey I mean you really shouldn’t be taking a lot of shots or you are doing something wrong 😂
@@AlexNV75 true! 😆
Dragonskin? If so...I used one like this in 2008.
Need to buy one of those shirts
You know what this reminds me of, is do you remember dragon skin armor?
This is exactly what i was thinking about while watching this. What ever happened to that stuff?
It has serious flaws in its design that allowed penetration from shrapnel and projectiles that impacted from high angles.
T-shirt idea :) "Because there are a few hundred thousand of you and only one of me" -Mr GnG
All of our combat arms soldiers should have 3 of those
What optic was that on the .300 blackout?
Leopold LCO paired with a Leopold D-Evo
You should have used a 20in barrel rifles to see what would happen. I like the armor but man $1,600 is a bit much for me. Also thanks for testing sir.
Well, 18lbs! I bet the one you shot is at least 25lbs now😂👍🇺🇸
Hhmm that stimulus check is gonna come in handy
How thick is the rifle soft armor and much does it weigh? I can get Duritium III+PA Body Armor Plates that weigh 2.7 pounds and are 0.7 inches thick, so a front and back plate weighs a total of 5.4 pounds plus the weight of the carrier, so let’s say 6 pounds for front and back protection, but no side protection like this armor.
Impressive but R.I.P. to them ribs tho.
RIP to lungs if they have a .308
Lucky number 11
$1,700, lol. 18lbs. LOL. 2003 called. It wants armor back.
Well your wearing 16-20 lbs in plates with less coverage. Yes plates stop higher calibers but it's a trade off
SmithN' Wesson No. Not even close. Even if you buy cheap plates you’re at 10-11lbs.
Real question is do they fail at temperature like dragon skin. Or under solvents.
I never heard that on the dragon skin was it high temp or low?
blade hunter High temp. Wasn’t used because Middle East heat was melting the special glue/adhesive it used.