It's like Lenovo was thinking, what can we do to make this product unattractive? We don't want to sell it much. OK, no full speed USB 4, soldered RAM, no height adjustment, no option to use it as a monitor for another PC, no ethernet on a 32 inch AIO. Nice! *sigh* It could have been a valid choice, the thermals are great, but noooo, why release a great product when you can release this! Thanks for a great review.
@@HausOfPainAre you asking for a specific model suggestion? I don't have a list to give you. I am poor and out of necessity not in access of models. One good start would be to get one which does not have the negative things this does.
A iMac for people who want windows… I want Ethernet on a desktop no matter what it is. Dosent make sense on a machine of this caliber… would make so much more sense for a 1200$ desktop and 300$ 32 inch screen. I get the appeal for certain markets but much better options out there for upgrade ability longevity etc
I am sorry but I just can’t understand why anybody would make a desktop without Ethernet. There are just a few changes that could have made this better but as it stands there are just too many compromises from its lower Thunderbolt speed to its lack of Ethernet and the ability to use it as a monitor that it is a hard pass for me.
I'm concerned about the 16GB RAM between this computer and an iMac, but what do you all think would be better? I work with many apps, documents, open browsers, online applications, and the cloud. It's a job where I do webinars, training, etc. I need my computer to always work perfectly, and I never turn it off, working tough day by day. Please, which one would you recommend? The prices of both are similar in Mexico. Apple M3 chip: 8-core CPU with 4 performance and 4 efficiency cores, 10-core GPU, and 16-core Neural Engine. 256 GB SSD storage. 24 GB unified memory. Two Thunderbolt/USB 4 ports. Two USB 3 ports. Gigabit Ethernet. Magic Mouse. Magic Keyboard with Touch ID - Spanish (Latin America).
Crying shame. My gripe here is that here we are with a decent screen - that screen will most likely still be valuable long after the computer part is out of date and there's something faster, still supported, has a needed feature etc..... Why no HDMI in? I mean how hard would it have been to add that so you can continue to get value out of the monitor for many, many years or even be able to use it for double duty connecting up a Fire tv / Apple tv / Google Chromecast / Roku / Game console etc up to a HDMI in? A simple capability would have really magnified the versatility and long term value. 2nd gripe - not memory upgradable. 16 GB is fine for most users, but most users don't need an i9 processor, so there's a mismatch there. You can always add extra storage but people who want an i9 will I expect want to add more memory. So here I'm lamenting the old iMac where you could add up to 128GB but just like this new Lenovo, the new M1 on series iMacs are also fixed memory. All feels of planned obsolescence and unnecessary environmental impact. Just saying (my 2p).
If Intel doesn't improve IGPU massively on their upcoming Meteorlake cpu's AMD will remain the obvious choice for best balance of 8 great cores and good enough igpu combo, those AMD Phoenix Point APU's are very attractive people are probably waiting for the desktop counterpart or evolution of such. This AIO looks good too bad it doesn't have input for display so it can be used as a console monitor for PS5/Switch/XBSX-S nor does it have a good port for external gpu such as full fat usb4 or oculink. Such AIO will be junk once the user needs more graphics capabilities which is actually now, Iris graphics was decent 5 years ago but is insufficient today...
An iMac is about the same price and isn't a touchscreen. People buy those. I know lots of people that love these AIOs who aren't looking for high end everything
@@mavfan1you do recognize you don't have to touch the touch screen, it's optional. I find that to be such a silly argument against including touch screens. If you don't want to touch them then don't! But don't screw over a huge percentage of people that rely on touch screens as part of their muscle memory over a decade now, for things like stylus support and art
@@michaelcorcoran8768I don't know anyone that actually would use their laptops touchscreen. It's highly unergonomic, leaves smudges and OS's are poorly designed to actually even use them. Tablet sized devices are ok, but laptop+ sized screens it's just failure all around. I would understand one usage, which would be home automation hub, but there such display size is overkill anyway, let alone hardware itself.
You will pay 30% more if you wanna buy an iMac with a considerably smaller screen and less configurations and specs. And yet not even touch screen either.
This computer looks and performs amazing. One drawback. Your paying $1,500 for this but this is a case where you are getting what you pay for. If you added a touchscreen, your looking at a $2,000 computer.
Keep up the great work
Really like the massive screen size. Reminds me the 27" iMacs before Apple got rid of them.
Tis the season for mini PCs!
It's like Lenovo was thinking, what can we do to make this product unattractive? We don't want to sell it much.
OK, no full speed USB 4, soldered RAM, no height adjustment, no option to use it as a monitor for another PC, no ethernet on a 32 inch AIO.
Nice!
*sigh*
It could have been a valid choice, the thermals are great, but noooo, why release a great product when you can release this!
Thanks for a great review.
Also, how can we generate even more obsolete out-of-the-box e-waste.
I totally agree. Just a few changes and it could have been great.
So what would be a better option then?
@@HausOfPainAre you asking for a specific model suggestion? I don't have a list to give you. I am poor and out of necessity not in access of models. One good start would be to get one which does not have the negative things this does.
A iMac for people who want windows… I want Ethernet on a desktop no matter what it is. Dosent make sense on a machine of this caliber… would make so much more sense for a 1200$ desktop and 300$ 32 inch screen. I get the appeal for certain markets but much better options out there for upgrade ability longevity etc
What are the options? I am interested.
The black bands around the screen are too wide for my taste. It's a step backwards compared to the previous model
I am sorry but I just can’t understand why anybody would make a desktop without Ethernet. There are just a few changes that could have made this better but as it stands there are just too many compromises from its lower Thunderbolt speed to its lack of Ethernet and the ability to use it as a monitor that it is a hard pass for me.
It will work for me as I don’t have Ethernet in my home office.
How much is a replacement...if exist...display for this puppy? because you know that screen is going to fail.
I'm concerned about the 16GB RAM between this computer and an iMac, but what do you all think would be better? I work with many apps, documents, open browsers, online applications, and the cloud. It's a job where I do webinars, training, etc. I need my computer to always work perfectly, and I never turn it off, working tough day by day. Please, which one would you recommend? The prices of both are similar in Mexico.
Apple M3 chip: 8-core CPU with 4 performance and 4 efficiency cores, 10-core GPU, and 16-core Neural Engine.
256 GB SSD storage.
24 GB unified memory.
Two Thunderbolt/USB 4 ports.
Two USB 3 ports.
Gigabit Ethernet.
Magic Mouse.
Magic Keyboard with Touch ID - Spanish (Latin America).
Crying shame.
My gripe here is that here we are with a decent screen - that screen will most likely still be valuable long after the computer part is out of date and there's something faster, still supported, has a needed feature etc..... Why no HDMI in? I mean how hard would it have been to add that so you can continue to get value out of the monitor for many, many years or even be able to use it for double duty connecting up a Fire tv / Apple tv / Google Chromecast / Roku / Game console etc up to a HDMI in? A simple capability would have really magnified the versatility and long term value.
2nd gripe - not memory upgradable. 16 GB is fine for most users, but most users don't need an i9 processor, so there's a mismatch there. You can always add extra storage but people who want an i9 will I expect want to add more memory. So here I'm lamenting the old iMac where you could add up to 128GB but just like this new Lenovo, the new M1 on series iMacs are also fixed memory.
All feels of planned obsolescence and unnecessary environmental impact. Just saying (my 2p).
If Intel doesn't improve IGPU massively on their upcoming Meteorlake cpu's AMD will remain the obvious choice for best balance of 8 great cores and good enough igpu combo, those AMD Phoenix Point APU's are very attractive people are probably waiting for the desktop counterpart or evolution of such. This AIO looks good too bad it doesn't have input for display so it can be used as a console monitor for PS5/Switch/XBSX-S nor does it have a good port for external gpu such as full fat usb4 or oculink. Such AIO will be junk once the user needs more graphics capabilities which is actually now, Iris graphics was decent 5 years ago but is insufficient today...
It’s a 1.5k All in one - don’t blame Intel for this one. For such a price you can include a dedicated GPU
I paused early because I got interrupted, but I did not see got back Ethernet Port on the back. Let us know if there is one.
No Ethernet
it has a m2 slot? can i put an e-gpu through it
An iMac is about the same price and isn't a touchscreen. People buy those.
I know lots of people that love these AIOs who aren't looking for high end everything
The mac is more attractive than this abomination
A computer that expensive without a touch screen bogus
A computer that won’t have smudges all over the screen, awesome.
@@mavfan1you do recognize you don't have to touch the touch screen, it's optional. I find that to be such a silly argument against including touch screens. If you don't want to touch them then don't! But don't screw over a huge percentage of people that rely on touch screens as part of their muscle memory over a decade now, for things like stylus support and art
@@michaelcorcoran8768I don't know anyone that actually would use their laptops touchscreen. It's highly unergonomic, leaves smudges and OS's are poorly designed to actually even use them. Tablet sized devices are ok, but laptop+ sized screens it's just failure all around. I would understand one usage, which would be home automation hub, but there such display size is overkill anyway, let alone hardware itself.
You will pay 30% more if you wanna buy an iMac with a considerably smaller screen and less configurations and specs. And yet not even touch screen either.
@@siavashforootan1126 that's actually very valid point.
All in ones in my book are dead on arrival.
Can you draw on the display with stylus?
This computer looks and performs amazing. One drawback. Your paying $1,500 for this but this is a case where you are getting what you pay for.
If you added a touchscreen, your looking at a $2,000 computer.
1.5k for a all in one is a joke.
@@RomvnlyPlaysthen what’s a comparable build for this priced with a 4K display?